Erica Stanford: New Zealand facing migrant crisis | Q+A 2022
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- National’s immigration spokesperson Erica Stanford warns New Zealand is facing a crisis in attracting migrants to the country, amid a “global war for talent”.
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I'm a New Zealander, I moved to Australia 13 years ago. New Zealand hasn't been the same since 2008. I loved every bit of it while growing up, but as soon as I became an adult reality hit me! New Zealand is for rich people who wants to retire and relax. It's only for people who can run a business and pay high tax. It's not for average people who wants to make an income or build a career. New Zealand lacks flexibility in *every possible way.* Whether it's jobs, living, renting, buying, products, food and lifestyle. Everything is just so limited. It's so boring. People are so narrow minded. You can clearly tell the difference how depressed and boring people are when you go for a holiday from Australia. I went back home many times, and every time I dealt with a mentally ill individual. New Zealand has higher rate of mentally ill people due to isolation. It's just nature and beauty which I admire the most, but the cost of living is ridiculous! As much as I love my country, I also think it needs a system reset. It needs more culture and vibrancy. It needs more flexibility and open-minded people. The country needs more resources and new possibilities.
You hit the bull's eye there, mate! What's the use of beautiful nature if you can't have enough to put food on the table? Other countries have gorgeous nature as well. Switzerland and other EU countries have alpine mountains, for example, and one can visit another country on a weekend. Something new, even for a couple of days.
As a person actually born here... we are letting in far too many people. If you are a doctor, nurse, or teacher then that makes sense, but a chef? Stay in your own countries please! It's hard enough without all the foreigners coming here and taking all the housing supply.
Meanwhile Canada treated migrants very well and attracted so much many young migrants, highly skilled, blue collars you name it. Things going very well here.
Coming from an Aussie.
@@KiwiKool So how does this relates to immigration mate ? lol
It's not just immigration issues, it's when they here, they realise how absolutely ridiculous the prices of houses and rents are plus crazy cost of living. Rental cost for absolutely disgusting, unhealthy and unsafe properties is getting out of hand, move in cost getting out of hand!!. New immigrants are getting fleeced and taken advantage of in the Rental property market. Something needs to be done.
Operating room technician here from the uk. You are completely right! myself and my partner who both want to work in Nz were completely put off by the insane prices for rent. It’s just too absurd to even think about moving.. I really hope something changes because we’d love to move.
@@Mucgamon191 UK is a beautiful country, go back home if u don't want to stay in NZ. Adapting & flexibility is the solution. In every country there are pros & cons.
I agree , that comes back to some of our previous immigration policies where overseas student who study here for 3 years can get residency .During Nationals 9 year reign net immigration was up 87k per year it was also around that time that our housing and rental problems started , its all about supply and demand . Having negative or low immigration for a few years isnt such a bad thing , we just need to be more picky on who we let in .
The reason we have the second or third most expensive housing in the world, is because we had numerous waves of immigration. without increasing our housing stock. The Lange-Douglas government of the 1980's, decided to double the population in order to create a larger domestic market. The cost of living is too high in NZ. When Winston Peters tried to point all of this this out 25 years ago, he was of course labeled a racist.
I'm a Kiwi living in Aussie... been here 13 years moved from UK ( 12 years). It's exactly the same here. Rent is through the roof, house prices too. Iceberg Lettice were $12au lol. Only just got a pay rise after 4 years but i still cant afford to buy a house. Aussie is a cool place but its hard to save here. The world has gotten very expensive of late but wages dont grow. There is lots of work here tho...
I am an immigrant citizen, moved to NZ when I was in high school. I pursued my career in academia, did my graduate school and training in AU and US. Now, I am established and wishing to go back. But there is simply no jobs or innovations in NZ. NZ does not seem to have the ambition to do innovations in science.
you're the one who is supposed to innovate and build industry. thats what others who didnt go to school expect of you
How about focusing on training more NZ Doctors and Nurses and having an attractive working environment to keep them here or to get them back when they decide to come home from overseas.
We dont have many qualified nurses or doctors here. The education system is the worst here so the local product cant cope with the demand
@@ehsanulkarim1126 True but we have to do something about it still. Can't rely on foreigners too much.
Nobody's going to hang around paying 31% income tax. Screw that.
We already have. There is a severe lack of skilled doctor and nurses in NZ. The existing doctors and nurses are already over worked, the system is stressed.
The issue is not really about universities not training enough doctors and nurse, the problem is students simply do not want those professions.
@@misterhill5598 At least you have a good brain. Well said. People generally don't want to work in healthcare because it is a depressing place. I guarantee you that migrants coming in are also avoiding those jobs too. For example, I had a conversation with someone who knows Chinese culture well and she said it is Chinese culture to avoid working in healthcare. They respect people working in the field but strongly against being part of the contribution. There are two solutions to the problem:
1. Recruit foreign doctors and nurses.
2. Train more local doctors and nurses.
What the hell! the product commissions report cost the taxpayer 5 million dollars 06:38 for a report! that's the problem with new zealand all these bureaucrats charging top dollar for what? nothing but rubbish recommendations and a fat paycheck.
Last person left turn the lights off please
You treat every one poorly. Remember the lockdowns.
She is very smart and attractive indeed, she definitely has my vote,❤❤❤❤❤❤
Immigrants have very hard life in New Zealand. Most jobs are occupied by locals where jobs are limited. life expenditure is high, and no facilities are there for migrants. Wish they could have allowed migrant to purchase property under certain criteria.
She’s very good. Clear and concise. Answers the questions find. Future pm material
They always talk good in opposition.
@@hellbender10 your probably to young to remember labour six years ago haha. National sucked in opposition when Collins was in too. So your statement is stupid
give nurses n teacher the red carpet treatmnt slam the door on petrol station managers n uber drivers
Both governments are promoting failed immigration policies.
you forgot to mention: booze shop managers, corner shop/suburban workers, vape shop attendees, the list goes on and on
So will you be doing those jobs?
@@bobykurien7400 the point is we dont need another 10k uber drivers loitering around th local dominos pizza cause its 2 4 tuesday
In other words Indian's that get Reds and then fly back to a arranged marriage and bring there whole family over
I am Nurse, I love to move NZ but heard expensive housing which almost takes away whole salary after all the monthly expenses
i will say no auckland wellingon to some extend but south island not as long as your street smart and understands basics you will be fine , christchurch rolleston lots of small towns are great for nurses west cost is fantastic its so many things to do like nature realted
She is so right
I suspect what we might see is Kiwis shifting to Australia but working for biz in NZ. That is to say, Covid-19 has prepared people to work from home; now they can work from Australian home. That's not just workers leaving, but jobs leaving (for Australia). So low value, low skill production in NZ, high value jobs to Australia.
Post pandemic world realizes that family is so important, they want to be with their loved ones and have great memories. The rentals in NZ are on the higher side like $2500 per month even in Tier 2 cities as it is a weekly payment, and then food another $500, broadband $125, electricity $200, gas for heating and cooking $200, water bill $200, vehicle insurance $200, fuel $500, and the median wage is $25/hour and most companies are small in size and cannot afford to pay more than 20-30hrs/week. So rest of the math is pretty easy for any prospective migrant to decide. One more important piece of information, if there is an advert for a single rental apartment vacancy in NZ even in a tier 2 city there would be 400-500 applications for that one unit, housing is very tightly managed, it is almost a mafia controlled business there making sure only the landlords and real estate companies become millionaires hahahahaha. However if you are a plumber, farmer, kiwi fruit plucker/packer, strawberry picker, cow dung cleaner, cow milk sucking device expert, lawn mower, welder, fitter, brick layering laborer or an expert latrine cleaner, you would get a Permanent Residence quite easily due to the locals never liking these tough physical jobs. But keep in mind the 7000$-10000$ per month minimum expenses and your PR card alone would not take care of your family right ? Hence please plan carefully as an annual income of more than 55000$ would attract a 30% tax, which by the way will make your partners working mandatory for most families. However if you are investing in health and retirement and have about $500000 at your disposal it is a great place to get lots and lots of oxygen, greenery and sound sleep as it is a country with just miles and miles of countryside everywhere outside Auckland...
really $500 on food what a fat arse
As Long as NZ government don't focus on housing costs ....things get really worse, people are making decisions very easily now a days.
Glory to God . God Bless You All. Psalms 91 Amen 14050. 26 Hallelujah 86 .
I'm a senior clinical nurse specalist/authorized vaccinator and a PRIME responder en route to become a practitioner to help address the GP shortage ...i ..and i can't belive I'm saying this ...i agree with national .my 102k a year ( that includes 24 hours on call ) would be on average 165k over the ditch with less hours
Fiat money money money.
Pointless comparing NZ wages with AU wages . Australia has huge mineral wealth that underpins much higher wages and living standard .
102k is a good wage......
National wants more low paid workers through increased immigration, create more low paid service and consumer based businesses, cut taxes and reduce government spending. It raises the question, if National is the government in 2023 and introduces tax cuts and reduce government spending, where are they going to find the money to pay for new nurses, doctors, specialised health professionals, age care workers, skilled workers, etc they say the New Zealand needs, let has no plans to the national housing stock, upgrade aging infrastructure, solve the cost of living crisis, inflation, out of control rents, etc.
Don't talk crap m8 thats more than enough to feed yours !! if you had your head screwed on it's not rocket science you shouldn't be pay more than 102$ annual
I think it’s a joke that New Zealand is so strict about migration. Even doctors get in very difficulty.
I love New Zealand from Australia, however there is love/trust relationship that is lost between the government and the ordinary people! It seems like migrants/locals can study in New Zealand easily by getting a Studylink loan and then once they get their first job and a bit of experience. Then they look to move to Australia, which is very sad for the country...
BS. Migrants can't get StudyLink loans. Only locals can.
@@nicconz1 I think the ones with PR can!
@@koochooloo007 Right, so you're telling me that SOME people can migrate to a country and use their skills to get permanent residence i.e. pull oneself up from the bootstraps and better themselves. Then the big complicated problem is that after 3 years of permanent residence they could use StudyLink to get a loan which they ultimately have to pay back to do FURTHER study and migrate somewhere else. What is the problem with that? Good on them.
People have the right to do what is better for them just like "Kiwis". Where do you get off?
Not everyone migrates again when they come to NZ and some do. Who cares? I think you might be a tiny bit jealous.
@@nicconz1 I never said the people who migrate from NZ to Australia are bad or good, each move has it's own pros and cons. I was simply saying New Zealand Government needs to create special programmes through negotiation with various companies that operate across different industries to offer special job packages that are attractive for the skilled migrants who left NZ, so the person who left the country think to himslef/herself it might be a good option to move back in terms of what is on the job offer ;-)
@@koochooloo007 There is nothing to suggest migrants moving to Australia is a problem at all. Not all migrants do. Some do. Big deal! I don't understand why people complain about it. If Kiwis can migrate easily to Australia then migrants have the same rights to do what is best for them.
They don't like the crazy lady!
+100000000000000000 to your comment !!!
NZ so fortunate to have OZ alongside...
wages and cost of living.
New Zealand is too far away from the rest of the world. Even for tourists.
@@KiwiKool lol 😂😂
Just opening up the back door to Australia!!! Just plain ripping the back door down
Your cost of living versus wages are a joke. You need to reduce living costs.
As a South African who is an Agricultural scientist and the demand is high in new zealand for skilled labour within these fields. I come across more bad reviews than good. I Just want to be able to use My knowledge and skills to better use and because I don't speak afrikaans,it's difficult in sa. Would new zealand be a better move?
Fix the working environment and you won't need as many migrants to do the job
The country and the economy is growing and more kiwis leaving the country because of the living costs&housing. So more immigrants are needed. it's got little things to do with work environment.
@@henryairconcepts2999 in terms of nursing it actually does, same with other roles that are understaffed and underfunded. If jobs like carer roles were paid what they deserved, they would attract more kiwi workers. Kiwis don't like hospitality due to the way you are undervalued, overworked and underpaid.. People will go where they find purpose and respect in their work/place, incl liveable wages. Business people go on about all the skills we are missing and need to import, some of that is reality, much of it is sectors that people don't want to work in due to the conditions...
3% unemployment and we’re still drastically short on workers in all sectors. We need migrants.
@@henryairconcepts2999 do you ever think long term, if humans continue down the path they are going large numbers will be killing themselves because living for them will be pointless,the natural world will cease to exist, only the priveliged will live in isolated comfort, this is already happening, ''gated communities''. Sounds far fetched doesn't it, just look at the changes in a lousy 100 yrs. and the change is happening exponentially !!!!!!!!
Administration and other areas that do not create value are disproportionately well paid this is the same problem in every elite parasite system actually this is evident in the whole western world whoever says this openly is denigrated as not willing to perform by those who protect their places at the honey pots this is the reality and nothing else you can do as much compassionate role playing in your inclusive wokeness dreamland as you want
My parents are trying to get me to return to New Zealand. Under this Prime Minister and under this economy and under the current direction the country is taking.... No way am I returning anytime soon. My skills and personal character is much better appreciated away from NZ. And just looking at the current housing market, I would probably be sharing a tent with my wife. No thanks. The grass is definitely greener away from NZ. People always ask me why I no longer live in the beautiful country of NZ. I could spend a VERY long time explaining my many reasons. Just hate where this country is heading and refuse to return.
Invest more in training New Zealanders! Free training for the sectors that need the most people
The only thing I know about New Zealand is the good quality sheep meat that my country imports from you. I think New Zealand needs to promote itself to the world if you really want to attract global attention and talented migration ! Especially your first language is English ! Create movies and take advantage of social media that connects the world ! NZ people are very friendly and professional, you deserve the best . GooD luck
It’s not that case, people leaving nz coz of low hourly rate
Hi, sorry to bother you again, i want to ask you perhaps you know some of the companies who recruiting for the general workers abroad please
New Zealand as a country needs to slow immigration roads schools housing Hospitals etc overloaded from to much immigration to many low skilled immigrants working at supermarkets bus drivers 2 dollar shops bottle stores Uber drivers low skilled the other thing is why are 98 percent of the immigrants from China or indains for where's the Americans Germans Russians Greeks french Spanish Ukraine immigrants working studying running shops let's flood in 10000s more non English speaking immigrants that walk around a English speaking country not speaking English
I'm a NZ citizen arrived in the country 9 years ago. The last 4 years the government has done everything to make me want to leave. We are a couple with two kids and we have work our asses off to buy a house. The cost of living crisis have made our quality of life decrease almost to the level we were experiencing in our native country. Heaps of people argue "is the pandemic" but how come I don't see people in other countries with our same professional experience struggling the same. Less inflation, better housing, more affordable living???? I believe if the government doesn't change next term NZ is going to experience an exodus.
@@KiwiKool take back all kiwis from Australia and never let leave any kiwi to leave nz. Would would be better place
@@KiwiKool a typical brain-dead kiwi response ... like havent heard that before ,,,,,, not
You moan about buying a house how do you think new Zealanders feel that are born here trying to buy a house in the country we are born in been pushed out by money hungry house buying immigrants and unmanaged immigration that's why new Zealand NZ government are spending 365 million dollars a year on emergency housing to many low skilled immigrants everywhere can't even speak English most are doing low skilled monkey jobs not even skilled immigrants making new Zealand an ulgy overpacked slum
@@KiwiKool nigga you've probably never set foot in the bush. Stfu.
@@KiwiKool Not all that long now and there won’t be any more money to fill those troughs !
I moved to NZ...enjoyed the beautiful scenery, high tax, sky high rent, and absolutely no future to ever purchase a house. Yup, left. So, each time JA tells us about her loving policies with over-dramatised hand gestures, all I saw was how much I was going backwards financially in NZ. Got the hell out...significantly improved my income elsewhere. Labour is running left, National is walking left...People are leaving because both major parties' policies are absolute crap.
@ TW F
Yep, time to vote for ACT
Act leader swears at the public in Public meetings..Even when on huge salary he moaned and groaned about not being able to buy a house. He is not very smart.. Rodney no name was going to close public libraries.What a deadlosd party.
@Erin Loo
Obviously David asked you to leave the public meeting because you were being a knob, David doesn't suffer fools.
Yep we moved here in 2007,its was a great country then ,but the last 2 years Jabcinda and her cronies have ruined NEW ZEALAND ,we can't wait to leave here.
Don’t forget the annoying grin she’s always putting on
open the flood gates thatl help nz low housing stock more and drive down wages. only in nz is a nz citizen second class😆
NZ was extremely welcoming when we moved here 30 years ago. Got off the plane and we were instant permanent residents.
Then NZ was highly attractive to skilled people. Now, not so much.
Still too much I think! By the way, I heard what you said from people all around a world!
Lol go home then
@@keastymatthew2407 you first, then. Go back to the place of your ancestors..
same here
She is spot on. The immigration put me on a queue for 3yrs to get my residency. They rejected my work permit application 4x because my job was apprentice electrician, and they kept giving me false hope by saying "keep trying". And most of all the staff were rude and snobb on the phone and in person eventhough they were also immigrants from India&other countries. They look down on immigrant applicants. It seems to me they give you approval based on race and how rich you are
Your profession needs to be something we need and not require nz to train you. Apprenticeship electrician is a big go-to at the moment in nz, especially because there is free training here for apprenticeships and trade training. What is wrong waiting 3 years for residency? If you want to live here, why does it matter?
@@hermitpermit2553 my case was back in 2004. I finally got my work permit under apprenticeship because I was handled by a kindhearted immigration officer who said he couldnt understand why I was rejected 4x especially I was already NZ qualified service technician and hold electrical engineering degree. I dont have problem if I had to wait for 3 years to get residency but it’s kind of unfair if my flatmate who only worked as a shopkeeper at harvey norman with unrelated uni degree could get residency in 6 months because he could afford an expensive immigration lawyer.
@@henryairconcepts2999 that is very bizzare and makes no sense i agree! There is loopholes in every system in every culture and money and knowing the right people is always the key to getting through. Its sad but universally true. I'm pleased you got your residency :)
@@henryairconcepts2999 I bet he got a sponsor. I know someone who got the reisdency after 3 years from graduation. He obviously bribed and made a deal. He only studied a business degree.
@Graeme Tucker how do you know all this? Yes import cheap migrants and dispose them after a few years.
A good measure of how attractive a country is, is how are young people doing. Well, people in there 20's/30's here have no hope of owning a home, probably can never have kids unless they want to live in perpetual poverty, and are having more and more of their pathetic pay taken by landlords/supermarkets/banks/taxes. Why is it that despite knowing so many people in professional careers, none of us are 'doing well'. We are all just 'getting by'. And that is with the support network of growing up here, that is with intimate knowledge of our culture/rules/advantages. For someone coming here with none of that, it is even harder. There is no way in hell I would ever recommend someone coming here. You will be in for a bad time.
the young ones are to busy doing drugs and not enough preparing themselves for the future i suppose
This Ms Stanford is a smart and well researched person. I am pleased to see someone as clear and open when explaining things of importance.
Smart researched and national don’t think so
How about employers look to the older new Zealanders who want to work but face age discrimination? Also, people don't want underpaid, part time, fixed term and casual jobs. No-one can plan a future on insecure and poorly paid jobs.
again: why are'nt new zealanders doing those jobs? Why am the only one asking the question???
This is New Zealand. Employers here seem to want everything and offer little in return. I have worked in The UK and Aussie and been paid fairly if not generously but not here. I returned from Oz in 2006 and looked for work as an auto mechanic. I was living on the NS Auckland and saw an ad for a Mercedes mechanic and stated $15 an hour. Realising it must be a mistake I phoned only to be told that the rate advertised was correct. I now do cleaning for $25 an hour. What a country!
It is a pity we can't get the hundreds of thousands. On welfare of their arses
Thousands leaveing school with out qualifications.
Thanks so much guys ,these videos teach us that the grass is not always greener on the other side, we literally live a kings life aside for crime and corruption ,I guess we have to be grateful, for what we have and not believe every u tube video , they just want us to spend our millions we have made here to drop it there in their pockets for a bunch of lies , thanks this can help us spread the word
@@waynescott2540 About 30% of society is too incompetent to participate, sad fact of life the world over.
Actually I’ve seen some states there is over 1 million people wanting to leave New Zealand and it’s mainly because of the direction the government is going in
I would like to ask a question, I would be a potential African American immigrant who however lives in Italy with only Italian citizenship, with the intention of moving to New Zealand investing obviously so I am a highly qualified person, but I am undecided between some countries where to move and invest and I am california, canada, south africa that arouses my interest so much, and also the nuvoza zealand, I see that the article on youtube says that there is a large influx of immigrants, but skilled immigrants I would say few more immigrants who do menial jobs from what I read I say the right? how do you live in new zealand ?? is a country that you would recommend to me? how is it at the pension level ?? , the house can be purchased only upon obtaining the right residence ??
indeed. it's very , very scary. I would rather live in Bulgaria or Romania and be free even living a frugal life, that being forced injected and locked up for life. This does'nt feel safe at all.
if thats the case that would shrink the population quite dramatically
I would advise others not to move here. You have to rent bad homes and make landlords wealthy.
if you support jacinda you can suck it up, you will own nothing with her there
Feel free to leave any time
Sounds just like Australia
@@patu5798 what an azzz!
NZ is the easy back door to Australia... Game plan from the beginning... NZ's standard of living has slipped to an all time low...
That's communism for you!
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 Bootcinda
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 What? Don't breed 🤡
@@turanamo You're the gender neutral nonce pal.
NZ'S treatment of ImmigrantsIs appalling!!
Low wages, Expensive rents, Poor quality of houses and the list goes on!
Thank comrade Ardern for this fiasco.
My family and I moved to NZ found the cost of living high no money to be earnt. What did it for us was the cost of the flight to visit family,would take me 3 months to earn. We packed up and moved back to the UK.
Too far. Very expensive. Cold. Depressing winters. Everything shuts at 6 pm. These are just a few minuses…
Jack the name of our country is New Zealand NOT that other bullshit mane up name REALLY Jack,
Talk about being delusional. We have plenty of skilled workers in new Zealand companies just dont want to pay for them . They will pay migrants workers less for the same job . Although generally not to the same quality
New Zealand doens't seem so attractive anymore. It is woke, snobby, has an awful government, miles away from anywhere, high taxes...there are better options
It's woke? that's a country for me.
Yup...moving to Cali NOW. 🤣
@@teevis3620 the worst state
Accurate, horrible horrible country is NZ anyone thinking of moving there needs to seriously re-evaluate their decisions. Or not LOL
Woke ? 😭😂
What we need to do is get rid of all you clowns, politicians ect... you are all talk and have no fricken idea what to do and your far out of touch with hard working kiwis.
The problem is just how difficult the Govt makes it to actually try and immigrate. I have 2.5 decades of senior level Management experience and yet don't qualify for in demand jobs. Ok, so I'll start my own Business then. I have 100% of the 100K NZ funding required (which you get 0 points for the 120 required if you ONLY have a little over the 100K) but NZ age discriminates and I barely get any points for being over 40. I also get zero points because I haven't operated the Business I'd open in NZ (which MUST be innovative and be shown that nobody in NZ already offers that) for at least 5 years somewhere else.
It's like those Job ads you see for an "Entry Level this or that" but the Company requires you have a Master Degree and 10 years experience. It's a complete joke.
Who would want to live in NZ, Aus, Canada or the UK while they are under control of the WEF policies.
@@KiwiKool All of these countries are under the control of the WEF. As Swab says, "we have been able to penetrate the cabinets"...
you don't know how lucky you are, did it ever occur to you to educate and train your own citizens, or are you saying marois' are intellectually inferior ?
NZs also become a dangerous place to live in thanks to jacindas soft laws. NZ was a place where immigrants felt safe. Nowadays, not so much
Im Indian, why dont Indians just stay in India and make it great ??????????????
They want to earn in dollors and spent in dollors with zero saving and with high cost of living
every country has its benefits and not good things , nz is very comfortable to live , you dont have maids like in india but you can use equipment like washer/dryer dishwasher so on , for kids i think nz is fantastic so many things for them to do great public school very good medical for kids , good work life balance , can import cheap amazing 2nd hard car from japan 15 mins and your at work 5 mins swimming pool so on
@@eumakant why cant India be a civilised country? why do u have to go to a white man's country, make India great not NZ
exactly i'll never understand that
@@harveyking5038 India is a ancient civilization & society , made up of many different poeple . similar to China others Egypt syria etc India is the only contentious civilization till current day , ie when white man was running naked hunting for animals Indians were a develop society were farming had irrigation sanitation health mental health sexual etc Yoga Kamasutra Ayurveda . etc you will have to google .
White man when developed its society went in search for a better trading route for India ie how we got the discovery of the Americas and they though the people over there are Indians hence native americans were termed Indians .
White Man managed to sea fair to India and then colonised India This includes not just white man but many others turks afgans british french spanish porguges etc
Now if white man can rule and colonise and en slave Indians and place Indias in Malaysia Fiji South africa and other afircan countries ,
hell ya Indians can go and live in white man's country and prosper
between UKs Pm is now a Hindu Indian Portuguese had and Indian PM before , USA vice president is Indian . etc .
National will get nurses from the Phillipines or India for cheap and they leave as soon as they become a NZ citizen for Australia often with a student loan
It’s harder to live in NZ than it is to live in some developing countries so hard unless you own homes & collect rent for everyone else on just ave wages is stuffed
We all get a better deal in Australia
Immigrants get a better deal than kiwis
Here in New Zealand homelessness is around 4%, why would anyone move to a country where almost 1 out 25 people is homeless! Would it be anything short of a crime against New Zealands renting class to let anyone in until we have sorted our housing shortage?
Not with that marxist idiot running the country
Not looking after nurses who are here. Working the rn in rest homes into the ground
You were right . Nurses and caregiver at the rest homes have working very long hours and exhausted.
Does this mean we have 9 thousand fewer homeless people? No point having a bigger population without the housing and infrastructure, including law and order.
well said
@Chris Lyons
Why would you include "Law and order" in that comment? What are you suggesting?
@@southpacific222 Australia keeps sending talented organised crime criminals.
Well, I moved back to India in March 2021 because I faced the issue of discrimination and mental torture. Even when the government is trying to support immigrants, as long as kiwis or Maoris stop saying "go back to your country/get out of my country" and the police would not step in to support you, people are going to move back. I am still scared of going back, I still have my work visa (for which I spent my fortune) sitting in dust because of this trauma.
Mate, I am half Kiwi and half Maori. I also live in Australia. I am ashamed at how those people in NZ have treated you.
@@twirl4968 most of them go straight to welfare, dont bring any money and smell horrible.
Stay over there thanks. There’s enough of them here already
What a load of tud. What job are you trying to do, we don't need taxi drivers we don't need fast food workers, Who did you try and get work from.
@@twirl4968 WTF, 1/2 kiwi and 1/2 Maroi .
To the last person in new zealand remember to turn the lights out when you leave, Ive lived here for 27years and have worked in the electrical trade for 12, enough to be considered skilled labour, i want to stay but have been forced out of the housing market, not to mention cost of living, low income, looming social/economic recession ahead. I dont blame anyone for wanting to hell out of dodge or face years of misery.
It's the sad truth. In the end you have to take care of yourself and your loved ones.
West Auckland looks like a mess (Where I'm from). Safety, cost of housing, food & society in general.
Everywhere else is going to be the same. The globalists are slowly destroying the entire west country by country with all the fake climate change, vaccines and antifarming agendas.
the solution is not bringing hordes of indians either
I'm new to NZ, came over on the 7th July as I got a decent job offer. I feel that immigration says they want to grow the economy and bring in skills but the professional bodies here make it really hard for professionals from abroad to work here. In the short time iv been here iv met nurses who are qualified surgeons back in Asia, Indian doctors who work as drivers here, experienced engineers working in banks.. My wife is a South african pharmacist with a 4 year pharmacy degree and 15 years of experience working in 3 tertiary hospitals. She cannot work here, she has to write 2 kaps exams which involves a lot of studying, do a 16 week course with university of Auckland, then do a 6 month internship before she can work...inz and the professional bodies need to understand that the skill you want to bring in, the real hard workers who will stay, come from the 3rd world.. But hey I guess they would want the skill to come in from Europe, America etc.. But those professionals seek where the salary is best, also a big reason why people in droves are moving to Australia vs nz. If inz want to get immigration right, start dialog with the professional bodies to be less prescriptive on those qualified, skilled and experienced workers coming from developing countries
Except for the Maoris and other tribes, everyone in NZ are migrants - a few generations apart. So you say that older migrants are making it difficult for new migrants.
Technically I'm a native by definition, so are the 7 last generations of my family before me..
Indian doctors do not need to drive taxis. They are lying to you. Engineers yes. Nurses also. not doctors
@@newbiekhyber they are also migrants mate , they were here may be 400 ~ 300 years before max the earlist settlers who were migrants were 1100 years ago compare that to australia or old countries like china india
let me guess... another indian.
My brother and family after 2 years being in New Zealand finally got work. It was tough but they persevered.
Various policies are always possible. But the crux of the matter is, New Zealand has a Socialist Prime Minister. That is why people are leaving!
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I suppose one of the cons of living in N.Z. would be the cost of foreign travel, going on holidays etc... The country is very remote from the rest of the world. A lot of your holiday time would be spent travelling. It's a beautiful country and i know a few people who were there and they said they really enjoyed it. 🇳🇿👍
@@KiwiKool NZ No.1 in this world!
(And 20% of NZers moved over the ditch to Australia with being treated as the second class citizens in Australia lol)
So NZ needs to:
- Fund more training
- Make more funds available for the health service
- Fund more vital infrastructure improvements, such as for water, public transport etc.
- Reduce the amount of capital being parked in property while also increasing the quantity of affordable residential property
None of NZ’s political parties are offering anything here so don’t expect anything to change, other than who blames who.
i agree training must be provided but to train people who are educationally proficient does not make them emotionally able to deal with the pressures of caring for sick folks.Identifying through specific screening interviews the right type of people ,personality and epathy are vital yet cold, distant and uncaring individuals although qualified are not ideal in my view
Tax reform. Not cuts, but changes.
But won't the new unelected governing body of the nation's several waters fund the care and maintenance of infrastructure for our sacred resource??
Low paying jobs, expensive poor quality housing, expensive food..so why bother staying in NZ? Moved to Perth recently and thank my stars.
Ha - who want's to live in a country where a house is not affordable and an authoritarian government that is in the pocket of WEF (young global leaders) with a zero coof policy that had to be tamed by judges. Even as a husband of a Kiwi it is extremely cumbersome to get a permanent residency for someone from Europe.
NewZealanders need housing not foreigners give our nurse’s Doctors their jobs back x
What about the housing crisis there's not enough houses for kiwis never mind imagines
There are enough houses actually they’re just not rented out, look up the ghost houses of Auckland problem
Wake up
Wake up Jeff!
The ghost houses in auks wouldn't even house the homeless people where I live in the north Auckland is only one city in nz you just have to drive around and see people living in there cars and vans . I don't think they do this by choice . When I was a teenager in the 70s there was no problem renting a house and the rent was probably only half of a minimum wage
How about having more kids, double down on National Soveriegnty and develop your own culture and economy.
Ask an opposition politician-usually conservative, you get propaganda replies.
Proper investigative journalism is fairly rare.
The conservatives have made for the lower wage climate in nz for years- because their masters wanted it. Australia didn't- hence the flight. We've sold the golden geese years ago for a bag of money, but often at futures cost, but also cheaply. This is the resulting cost.
Look at fisher and Paykel- the Chinese got the technology they wanted. No more export dollars there. No chance to expand. The share holder's saw a meal ticket. No passing it on. -Such is the speculative stock malarkey market.
Councils love building houses on farming land and not even close to the city- no more export dollars to be had and if there's bush, cut it down.
NZ relied on tourism. That's always going to be fickle as service industries always have been.
Born an raised nz . look after kiwis. maoris . they have destroyed aeotearoa. 100%
I am actually glad that pandemic happened. It revealed the reality of NZ that how much we are addicted to cheap foreign temporary workforce. Having them only benefits the employers.
This is why employers don't hire kiwis, you people have too little brain to understand complex things which need special skills and brain. Skilled migrants are tired of paying high taxes to fund work and income claims..
Australia is finished, politicians have mismanaged the country, 50 000 are leaving each year.
@@vincesteer7960 it is better than NZ
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They're not heading for New Zealand though are they! 🤣
WE are not addicted to them.. NZ was raped and pillaged years ago
Be grateful they all come to Australia but the biggest thing at the moment both countries have to show the way with having small populations other wise if you offered 100,000 Indians and 100,000 Africans thats how many would show up expecting a home right next to a school and home new home to boot.
no immigrant ever expects that, i don't know what tabloid you read.. I live in India and I qualified for an NSW sponsored PR once which I turned down because I got a better offer in a nearby SE Asian company. Erica's pretty spot on the competition for talent (i have no idea about healthcare but pretty sure she's right).
Apart from easing immigration, we need to improve skills for kiwis, introduce apprenticeship, with decent wages. Get the young people back to work. And train older people in new skills.
finaly! Why are'nt they teaching their people, what's that weird situation? Are they seriously outsourcing education to poorer countries, poorer countries citizen's taxes? This has an end. They need to invest in their own children.
they are trying to dumb the majority down, while the rich prosper. Its been common practice for years
Sure, NZ does not need any overseas nurses and doctors. 🤣🤣🤣SO the INZ should immediately stop allowing foreign nurses and doctors coming to nz! I strongly agree with u. the gov should protect NZ local nurses and local doctors and train and pay them well.
lock the people inside the country against their will.....maybe nz people born abroad cant accept those terms...
I am 67. I Lived 30 years in Australia and came back here in 2006 and the worst mistake of my life. I love the country - bush, beaches etc and the people are fine, but our laws are antiquated and our so called leadership is crap. Too old to move again alas, but apparently Romania is the place to go.
Try restoring the righrs of the un mRNA injected.
You need to get rid of the crime and drug issues you guys have…. which normal family would want to take their children into a country that has so many issues with children doing drugs ? Plus your on top of the list for children suicide status
This mentality needs to change
My wife is a medical doctor. She is working in pharma. Her position was created to get her here. We can go anywhere if we want. Feel a bit un appreciated at the moment but we will see what the future brings. Do we really want to pay huge amounts of tax to a country that treats you a bit like you dont matter? We will see.
come to England , far better for immigrants
@@KiwiKool Hey Phillip. thanks for the reply. We did eventually got the residence.
If you are from the U.S. and older, say near retirement, NZ is not interested in you even if you are upper middle class in the U.S. and have a great retirement income. Unless you are wealthy and able to invest huge amounts of money, there is no way to get there! I think that is short sighted!
@@KiwiKool not even a retirement village with money to spend in your economy?
Nothing new there, people have come to NZ, get the passport then go to Australia for years!
Why the f would anyone move to nz it’s sooooo expensive to live there it’s an absolute joke not to mention the poor state of houses being mostly weather board/ separation of race and to many people on welfare…the upside is it’s a beautiful country but that’s about it hardly something to keep you there.
Start importing them from afghanistan .. im sure more kiwis will go back and become head of recruiting for isis..last one did eh nz...
Working as a night filler for CD. I got to know some of the Indians workers. They said they only here to get New Zealand citizenship papers.
They make it very hard to even come into the country!! My daughter and grandson live there and we can’t get into the country,haven’t seen them in two and a half years !!!!!
Why not? I thought the borders were fully open now
I think it's a money and visa problems.
guys, please consider - you have natural disadvantages:
the main - you are so far away from everywhere. Going to NZ would mean- lose the connection to parents and friends forever.
going to NZ means to reject travelling, to be outside the places where "the real life runs".
I would prefer either Europe or US. I went to Germany 20 years ago and have got free language course from 0 to c1, free university study with the financial support of 500€ monthly.
If you go to Israel, you get free professional and language courses and around 18.000 usd support for the familie.
But not everybody can do it.
If you wanna attract new people - use the chance with Ukraine.
Send planes to save them, accelerate and simplify burocracy, give them accomodation, language courses, financial aid - integrate them.
Good luck, guys. let the God flourish your country.
Why aren't they training more NZ'ers to do these jobs and lower unemployment? Their answer is always to just flood in migrants.
we have the same problem here in Australia. Its been detrimental the the labour market....there no carpenters, tradies to keep up with the construction industry demands and since there is slow progress in building new homes, prices of homes just keep going up. In agriculture, certain fruits and vegetables have been left out to rot in the fields because there is not enough fruit pickers to get them into super markets. Add to the flooding problems, the cost of fruit and veges has sky rocketed in Australia...thats just on top of nursing, teaching shortages. The Australian govt has increased its migrant intake by 30k but that will take time to alleviate the labor shortage. But luckily for Australia there is higher wages
You brought them now live with them or without them and in time near won't be a pure kiwi living in new Zealand
This government driving long time residents and kiwis out of the country.
No wonder people are still leaving NZ in droves.
It’s a better life in Aussie. From Nz, moved to Aussie six years ago, came back for Covid. Now back In Aussie. So glad to have left in Nz again.
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I think the world economy growth is superficial. If everyone is fighting for the same talent we looking for trouble. The problem is clearly systemic to the current world system. Developed countries with their aging populations will be another challenge to overcome in the next 10 -20 yrs.
have more kids. You're obviously not working anyway.