Pathetic. You were far tougher with Seymour, Jack. Why didn’t you ask her what Atlas is. Why didn’t you press her about their desire for a seperate parliament? Afraid she would call you racist huh?
@@georgeorwell6869 Is it racist for the Swiss peoples to have more right than non Swiss people in their country? Is it racist for the Swedish to have more rights than non Swedish people in their country? Is it racist for the Welsh to have more rights than non Welsh in their country?
I’d rather live in a democratic country with a democratically elected government. Not a country governed by rangitera hocus-pocus. Should be pretty obvious.
why's she so afraid to admit that maori have more rights? she clearly knows/thinks this but the fact she doesn't want to admit it means she knows how wrong it is
Yeah. They do. And what? Deal with it. If you don’t want NZ sold off to corporate interests, you’d support Maori rights bro. If you have an agreement with a bank to have a home loan with them and I don’t, do you have more rights than me? Why would I try and fight for your home loan to include me. Silly arguments bro
I love the maori culture as being part of my NZ heritage and wouldn't want this to change. I also like the environmental protection aspect that Maori contribute to. However we all contribute to NZ society, pay taxes, and are part of NZ, so should all have equal rights. I dont think anyone should be against this. Debbie has said she has more rights and obligations. They are not necessarily linked. I am not wanting to remove her obligations (unless she wanted to), but rights can and should be equal.
@@chelesetukuafu7240 I understand the point you are trying to make because I sometimes feel deserving of more rights because I was born here vs someone who wasn't. But for me I think we need to draw the line at equal rights for all NZ Citizens (i.e. New Zealander's)
Lol not a gun gesture... if she lies about that when it's on video then can't believe thing she says. Soooo many lies told here.. not a recruitment drive lol
I really get agitated by statements like "Those extra rights are afforded [to us] because we are Tangata Whenua". She speaks as if she represents Maori. She speaks as if there is an Homogeneous group identifiable as Maori within NZ. She talks as if the people she represents - the 2.6% - are one issue kiwis. The greatest sin of all is that she exploits the myth of Maoridom - that anyone who agrees with her is a Maori and anyone who disagrees with her is WRONG. As a komatua, I DO NOT accept any of that. What I do accept is that Seymour is an opportunistic piece of garbage who has seized the day with a weak and ineffective PM (whose lips move in time with the latest self-help trash that he's reading) and is happy to bully him because he knows that Luxon is too weak and too craven and too hungry for the "baubles of office"to oppose him. The Treaty is. The Treaty stands. The Treaty is alive. However, it's not a piece of waste that can be picked up and used for political ends. For my money, The Maori Party is as bad as Seymour. Their posturing is for their own greedy political ends - it has nothing to do with right and wrong. And no amount of double speak by Ngarewa Packer or her ilk - no amount of redefining alternative facts as she does - will change any of that.
Maori do not have more rights in a realistic sense other than getting a spot at the table so their voice is heard. It ends up working out best for all of New Zealand especially with land and mining.If Maori and pacifica need more assistance with education, housing and health, so what?
It’s a given that groups exist, despite everyone in the group agreeing 100%. This argument seems very pronounced among Maori. There is no need for this false requirement for Maori to be in more alignment internally than any other group. Respectfully, we don’t have a special requirement to be of one voice. Being specific, what policy do you disagree with in the Maori party?
@@poerava There policy is to govern all of New Zealand weather they are voted in or not We vote for people that are in power because of there policies to make it better for all who live in New Zealand Maori party policy is to only make it better for Maori
What a load of claptrap by Debbie NP. She knows the writing is on the wall for her and her party for their divisive and entitled behavior. Enough is enough. The people will have the final say.
Didn't realize a bill advocating equality and anti discrimination would be so controversial and labeled as 'racist'. Amazing times we're living through.
saying the hikoi wasn't run by the maori party is a blatant lie. the daughter of the maori party president and wife of rawiri williams owns the toitu te tiriti company
Good grief. Māori having rights does not threaten anyone else’s rights. Those rights are there, in principle (not by legislation) to uphold a modern spirit of the Treaty, and also globally by UNDRIP (United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples). Before people continue to believe Māori are not indigenous, they are, as are Moriori. United Nations define indigenous groups as pre-colonisation by the British Empire, and include Māori and Moriori in that, this is public information.
Because there's nothing to challenge. There's photos of Seymour at an Atlas summit, there's interviews of him speaking with a forced Canadian accent while working in Canada. He's anybody the Network wants him to be. His ties to Atlas are well-established, and we, as New Zealanders, should be constantly questioning their interference in our democracy.
@@pastorastafari You got a problem with indigenous Swiss people having more rights than this not being Swiss? Ask yourself why you feel ok to have a problem with Maori having the same rights as all white countries in the world. Think about that bro (It’s called systemic r a c i s m)
My issue with Te Pati Maori is that, the politicians are truly not out for all Maori and they are not for all of New Zealand but neither is david seymour. You can uphold Te Tiriti, Indigenous Rights AND still pave a way for all of New Zealanders to thrive, however the issue outlined by Non-Maori and primarily ACT or NZ supporters is that Maori recieve more rights and benefits which is incorrect and that should never be the case. If we were more privileged then why are Maori still suffering the most compared to other groups of the country? it makes no sense.
Debbie, I love your mahi and loved your haka the other day. May I just suggest one thing. If anyone asks, ‘do Māori have more rights than me as a non Māori’, simply reply, ‘yes, most countries do have this for their indigenous peoples. Do you oppose this’? Or reply with ‘if you have a home loan and I don’t, do you have more rights than me’? If they keep pushing, reference that the treaty is between the crown and Maori and since 1840, Maori have been fighting against the crooked and criminal crown commercial interests of non new Zealander’s’. Focus on the ‘inalienable’ rights that Māori fought for, with the foreshore and seabed legislation, where the crown wanted to put titles on the foreshore and seabed for gas mining to sell off to non New Zealanders. Focus on how the evidence of how Māori interests have always been in the best interest of all New Zealanders. This evidence suggests that to support Māori interests, is to support the way that NZ will be kept for everyone to enjoy. And if anyone else questions making a gun sign or action, highlight how Luxon has the blood of 5000 people on his hand. Per. Year. In his reversal of the smoking ban that over 80% of NZ wanted and no one has asked him once about the blood on his hands. So instead of asking someone who did not save the lives of 5000 kiwi souls, why they let them become un alive, instead, they choose to ask someone if pointing a finger means they were imagining it to be a gun. And laugh.
Oops You Tube keep threatening to Block my comments. Last comment was in reference to TPM and their constitutional makeup as a global corporate Company registered on the Global Company Directory Dun&Bradstreet.
I watched this whole thing waiting for a clear, logical argument. Still nothing. Just the same typical childish, petty slander and insinuations, and you can see how tired she is, from staying up all night thinking about how to make this an "anti corporate greed" argument. Soo stupid.
@@reasonablearticalo What a ridiculous and absurd thing to say. Point me to one article, video or reference which involves debating the "Existence of Māori". Seriously, what are you talking about?
@@jimnz8402 Right, so the tenor of your comment assumes that so long as there's no calls for the extermination or segregation of Maori, they're being treated okay. This is obviously not what I mean when I refer to "existence," as racism has outgrown such in-your-face examples as segregated drinking fountains or Whites-only churches. Existence here, when my comment is read is good faith, refers to the Treaty principles being altered long after the ink on the compact is dry. Seymour is advising us that Maori apparently have too many rights, and are flying just too high above the rest of us. Despite the obvious socioeconomic status of the group in general, educational outcomes, jobs, whatever you'd like me to cite to reinforce my "ridiculous" and "absurd" argument. Statistics are never mendacious, but mendacious people can make them say whatever they like. When judged fairly, it should be obvious that Maori do not have too many rights in this country. If we can't agree on this, there's no more to be said. Ultimately, all New Zealanders should fear and question Atlas's intercession into our democracy, and consider exactly what they want to accomplish by sowing all of this division. I foresee a future where New Zealand is sold off piecemeal to corporate interests, and a US-style healthcare system is implemented off the back of depriving one's fellow man of the scintilla of pride and authority they wield. And the worst of us will of course say "Well, we lost everything that made us New Zealanders, but at least no Maori flew higher than a Pakeha." We should resist this outcome with all of our might. All of us should come together, ignore this racist assault on our laws, and turf out the real blight on our way of life: corporate interests.
Maori are not indigenous. The ancestry cannot say they originally came from here . They traveled here just like the rest of us . Now they may have been here first ,that's debatable, but indigenous to a countryside for example native American Indian, aborigines, Europeans, South American . They are indigenous to there part of the world . Maori traveled here . End of story .
False. Just because they came from somewhere else, doesn't mean they aren't indigenous. If that were the case, no one outside Africa would be indigenous. All those other people travelled to their parts of the world too. LOL How are you this poorly educated?
Maori have special privileges and rights the rest of New Zealand don't have. We cant have one right for one race and another right for the rest. That's apartheid by its very nature and why we protested against it during the 81 Springbok tour.
ducking and diving from this non-maori hater; attributing agendas to Seymour with no facts or basis and implying that only she and her fellow haters are capable of looking after all kiwis interests...
This Atlas bullshit is the best she can do as to why we shouldnt have equal rights ,the presenter didnt even press her on her wild conspiracy theories.
governments off the past havent PAID out ALL iwi around the rohe NGAPUHI and KAHUNUNU and MANY OTHER IWI STILL awaiting due payments..so why the principles bill by Act n coalition government when these major grievances are still outstanding over 180 years ...when will it END
The crown have paid .02% of the revenue they have made from the illegal seizures and theft of land. Fun fact More money has been given back to land lords in one year (this year) by the crown, than to Maori since 1840 ($2.9B / $2,900,000,000 in tax deductions)
"The atlas agenda" "The atlas collective" - Ladies and gentlemen, This is a leader of a political party using predatory behaviour/practices to radicalise Maori to the point where they become dissolutioned with politics and withdrawal to the Maori role. I want better for Maori, someone who understands that you (keep) policy over the line by winning hearts and minds not giving everyone who handed you the mic the middle finger. Jacinda Ardern is responsible for most of the gains she claims in this piece. Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and her succession plan are merely tools of division.
Look back on this comment when New Zealand is sold off piece by piece, and a US-style healthcare system is horrifically introduced. Will you admit that was worse then, or will you still say "Well we lost our way of life to corporate interests, but at least we didn't empower our fellow man?"
We need to get rid of this news company. They should be privatized and might to give a fear point of view about what is happening in New Zealand you're the only one.
Jack is an embarrassment. This is as soft as marshmallow this interview compared to the David Seymour interview. Debbie is trying to deflect the Māori parties own dodgy dealings and blatant corruption by banging on about the atlas group .
Just as an adjunct to my earlier comment that the Maori Party exploits the myth of Maoridom, I add this: The Treaty was signed on behalf of the Crown by one principal (there were more than one signatory for the Crown but the signatures were in effect one) and 504 Maori Chiefs. There was no Maori race that was represented by one entity like the Crown was. Each tribe had it's view and some chose not to sign. That tribalism still remains. The head of Tainui is NOT my Queen. She is a product of a group set up by Maniapoto in the 1860's to try to amalgamate the voice of Maori in what was called the Tainui Confederation of Tribes". It didn't work then and it's not working now. Packer is like the rest of New Zealanders - she has many parts to her whakapapa and a representative of Maoridom is not one of them. She's a self-proclaimed power zealot - nothing more -nothing less.
@@poerava Excuse me! Where TF did that stat come from. Another alternative fact paraded as truth won't make it so. 99% of Maori whi I am immersed with agree with me.
Question: "What's the [plan for opposing this bill from now on" Answer: We'll make as much political capital out of the select committee hearings and we'll sign up as many voters as possible so that we get to 3% votes at the next election
Basically political spin, demonising, and historical distortion. There were not two sovereigns. There was an agreement, based on sufficient sovereignty (actual rule) by the chiefs being ceded to the Sovereign, as proclaimed in May 1840. Ongoing realisation in practice of tino rangatiratanga was for the settled government, incl through the Constitution Act 1852. I doubt DNP has read the Matike Mai report again recently. It's a mess, solves nothing, reiterates make-believe solutions.
What a rude interview. Jack is a little boy having an adult conversation that doesn't effect him and his lineage at all. Thanks for not showing personal bias 'Jack#$@"
If you’re one 100th Irish, you’ve got access to the unique indigenous rights in Ireland. Have you ever asked why people don’t like Maori having similar rights to all indigenous peoples in the world? Notice how no one has an issue with Spanish, Welsh, Irish, Swiss, Swedish etc. indigenous rights? (It’s ok. Most people don’t even know that they have systemic r@cism in their behaviours and thinking).
Because she has Maori whakapapa. Racist. Racists last century: "any drop of brown blood makes you a n*****." Racists this century: "you're blood isn't pure enough to be brown." Make up your racist mind.
Pathetic. You were far tougher with Seymour, Jack. Why didn’t you ask her what Atlas is. Why didn’t you press her about their desire for a seperate parliament? Afraid she would call you racist huh?
LOL
Hahahahaha
Jack's questions were very good, although he didn't ask about Te Pati Maori's call for a separate Maori Parliament.
she said it herself yes she thinks she has more rights than you.
You also say she said it.
And?
@@poeravathat's racist by definition
More rights than u bro lol
@@georgeorwell6869
Is it racist for the Swiss peoples to have more right than non Swiss people in their country?
Is it racist for the Swedish to have more rights than non Swedish people in their country?
Is it racist for the Welsh to have more rights than non Welsh in their country?
I’d rather live in a democratic country with a democratically elected government. Not a country governed by rangitera hocus-pocus. Should be pretty obvious.
This lady Debbie is not a nice person she is extremely dangerous
LOL
@@AholeAtheist lol you a ninja
why's she so afraid to admit that maori have more rights? she clearly knows/thinks this but the fact she doesn't want to admit it means she knows how wrong it is
If i could make you a maori, would you want to be one?.
@@pastorastafari if it means i jump the queue at the hospital sign me up
@@Bruiser223You are signed up, welcome.
Yeah.
They do.
And what?
Deal with it.
If you don’t want NZ sold off to corporate interests, you’d support Maori rights bro.
If you have an agreement with a bank to have a home loan with them and I don’t, do you have more rights than me?
Why would I try and fight for your home loan to include me.
Silly arguments bro
@@poerava I don't see any argument here.
Debbie is not a Rangatira she is a paid crown agent under Statute and NZ Legislation
I love the maori culture as being part of my NZ heritage and wouldn't want this to change. I also like the environmental protection aspect that Maori contribute to. However we all contribute to NZ society, pay taxes, and are part of NZ, so should all have equal rights. I dont think anyone should be against this. Debbie has said she has more rights and obligations. They are not necessarily linked. I am not wanting to remove her obligations (unless she wanted to), but rights can and should be equal.
If us kiwis went to another country and worked, payed taxes etc … do you think we will get equal rights in that country as their indigenous people… 🤨
@@chelesetukuafu7240 I understand the point you are trying to make because I sometimes feel deserving of more rights because I was born here vs someone who wasn't. But for me I think we need to draw the line at equal rights for all NZ Citizens (i.e. New Zealander's)
The only decent all angles coverage of our country's issues. Thank you Jack and NZ on Air.
Here here
And BHN
True Partnership as Treaty Partners.
Lol not a gun gesture... if she lies about that when it's on video then can't believe thing she says.
Soooo many lies told here.. not a recruitment drive lol
Bullkaka
LOL
Love you Debbie doing a wonderful job.
Sovereign
adjective
1. possessing supreme or ultimate power.
Having 2 sovereigns is an oxymoron
there's also proof that at least some if not most of the maori chiefs had given up sovereignty, in order to get protection from the crown
@@Bruiser223
Silly comment
Do more research bud
Not really.
@@Bruiser223 False.
Quick, we better tell Europe that they can't have more than one Sovereign.
I really get agitated by statements like "Those extra rights are afforded [to us] because we are Tangata Whenua". She speaks as if she represents Maori. She speaks as if there is an Homogeneous group identifiable as Maori within NZ. She talks as if the people she represents - the 2.6% - are one issue kiwis. The greatest sin of all is that she exploits the myth of Maoridom - that anyone who agrees with her is a Maori and anyone who disagrees with her is WRONG.
As a komatua, I DO NOT accept any of that.
What I do accept is that Seymour is an opportunistic piece of garbage who has seized the day with a weak and ineffective PM (whose lips move in time with the latest self-help trash that he's reading) and is happy to bully him because he knows that Luxon is too weak and too craven and too hungry for the "baubles of office"to oppose him.
The Treaty is.
The Treaty stands.
The Treaty is alive.
However, it's not a piece of waste that can be picked up and used for political ends.
For my money, The Maori Party is as bad as Seymour. Their posturing is for their own greedy political ends - it has nothing to do with right and wrong.
And no amount of double speak by Ngarewa Packer or her ilk - no amount of redefining alternative facts as she does - will change any of that.
Maori do not have more rights in a realistic sense other than getting a spot at the table so their voice is heard. It ends up working out best for all of New Zealand especially with land and mining.If Maori and pacifica need more assistance with education, housing and health, so what?
It’s a given that groups exist, despite everyone in the group agreeing 100%. This argument seems very pronounced among Maori. There is no need for this false requirement for Maori to be in more alignment internally than any other group. Respectfully, we don’t have a special requirement to be of one voice.
Being specific, what policy do you disagree with in the Maori party?
@@poerava
There policy is to govern all of New Zealand weather they are voted in or not
We vote for people that are in power because of there policies to make it better for all who live in New Zealand
Maori party policy is to only make it better for Maori
What a load of claptrap by Debbie NP. She knows the writing is on the wall for her and her party for their divisive and entitled behavior. Enough is enough. The people will have the final say.
Didn't realize a bill advocating equality and anti discrimination would be so controversial and labeled as 'racist'. Amazing times we're living through.
saying the hikoi wasn't run by the maori party is a blatant lie. the daughter of the maori party president and wife of rawiri williams owns the toitu te tiriti company
Good for Rawiri Williams.
Are rugby game celebrations and attendance organised by NZRU?
Good grief. Māori having rights does not threaten anyone else’s rights. Those rights are there, in principle (not by legislation) to uphold a modern spirit of the Treaty, and also globally by UNDRIP (United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples). Before people continue to believe Māori are not indigenous, they are, as are Moriori. United Nations define indigenous groups as pre-colonisation by the British Empire, and include Māori and Moriori in that, this is public information.
Corporate exploitation is what Act and Seymour as part of the Atlas Network are about. Mãori and Te Tiriti at this point in time stand in their way.
What is your evidence for this? If this assertion were real, would only Mãori be able to "stand in their way"?
@@zenRichard Check ACT's political compass position. That's all you need to know.
JT doesn't challenge her Atlas conspiracy assertions at all, disappointing.
Because there's nothing to challenge. There's photos of Seymour at an Atlas summit, there's interviews of him speaking with a forced Canadian accent while working in Canada. He's anybody the Network wants him to be.
His ties to Atlas are well-established, and we, as New Zealanders, should be constantly questioning their interference in our democracy.
Nothing to challenge. Wake up.
As Samoans have more rights in Samoa especially regarding land and waters, so too Maori have more rights regarding land in New Zealand, than others.
EDWARD 👍🏼
And who is Samoan? Those born in Samoa. Kiwi born in NZ regardless of race are indigenous to this land.
@asha6822 My brothers are Samoan
@@pastorastafari
You got a problem with indigenous Swiss people having more rights than this not being Swiss?
Ask yourself why you feel ok to have a problem with Maori having the same rights as all white countries in the world.
Think about that bro
(It’s called systemic r a c i s m)
@poerava you say (it's called systematic r a c i s m) I do to, but I might be wrong. ✌🏼
I have video footage of a ufo i filmed last year here in south Auckland.do Maori own the aliens that i filmed?
Let's not let this important moment in time slip away, we must continue to stand strong together as one nation.
What's this 'Atlas' thing she keeps going on about?
ACT and the Atlas Network that all I need to know about this Treaty principle bill fiasco
What is the Atlas network and where can I find the links to ACT?
Follow the money all the way to tamihere to find out what this corporation is all about .
Neither were Sovereign and Act lol thats us.
The Treaty stands
It has been written
My issue with Te Pati Maori is that, the politicians are truly not out for all Maori and they are not for all of New Zealand but neither is david seymour. You can uphold Te Tiriti, Indigenous Rights AND still pave a way for all of New Zealanders to thrive, however the issue outlined by Non-Maori and primarily ACT or NZ supporters is that Maori recieve more rights and benefits which is incorrect and that should never be the case. If we were more privileged then why are Maori still suffering the most compared to other groups of the country? it makes no sense.
Debbie,
I love your mahi and loved your haka the other day.
May I just suggest one thing.
If anyone asks, ‘do Māori have more rights than me as a non Māori’, simply reply, ‘yes, most countries do have this for their indigenous peoples. Do you oppose this’?
Or reply with ‘if you have a home loan and I don’t, do you have more rights than me’?
If they keep pushing, reference that the treaty is between the crown and Maori and since 1840, Maori have been fighting against the crooked and criminal crown commercial interests of non new Zealander’s’.
Focus on the ‘inalienable’ rights that Māori fought for, with the foreshore and seabed legislation, where the crown wanted to put titles on the foreshore and seabed for gas mining to sell off to non New Zealanders.
Focus on how the evidence of how Māori interests have always been in the best interest of all New Zealanders.
This evidence suggests that to support Māori interests, is to support the way that NZ will be kept for everyone to enjoy.
And if anyone else questions making a gun sign or action, highlight how Luxon has the blood of 5000 people on his hand. Per. Year. In his reversal of the smoking ban that over 80% of NZ wanted and no one has asked him once about the blood on his hands.
So instead of asking someone who did not save the lives of 5000 kiwi souls, why they let them become un alive, instead, they choose to ask someone if pointing a finger means they were imagining it to be a gun. And laugh.
Keep bringing up ATLAS we should all be concerned.
You are not indigenous
Yes, she is. Seek education.
2 majority Euros pretending .
Oops You Tube keep threatening to Block my comments. Last comment was in reference to TPM and their constitutional makeup as a global corporate Company registered on the Global Company Directory Dun&Bradstreet.
I watched this whole thing waiting for a clear, logical argument. Still nothing. Just the same typical childish, petty slander and insinuations, and you can see how tired she is, from staying up all night thinking about how to make this an "anti corporate greed" argument. Soo stupid.
If your existence was debated, you'd be tired too.
@@reasonablearticalo What a ridiculous and absurd thing to say. Point me to one article, video or reference which involves debating the "Existence of Māori". Seriously, what are you talking about?
@@jimnz8402 Right, so the tenor of your comment assumes that so long as there's no calls for the extermination or segregation of Maori, they're being treated okay. This is obviously not what I mean when I refer to "existence," as racism has outgrown such in-your-face examples as segregated drinking fountains or Whites-only churches.
Existence here, when my comment is read is good faith, refers to the Treaty principles being altered long after the ink on the compact is dry. Seymour is advising us that Maori apparently have too many rights, and are flying just too high above the rest of us. Despite the obvious socioeconomic status of the group in general, educational outcomes, jobs, whatever you'd like me to cite to reinforce my "ridiculous" and "absurd" argument. Statistics are never mendacious, but mendacious people can make them say whatever they like. When judged fairly, it should be obvious that Maori do not have too many rights in this country. If we can't agree on this, there's no more to be said.
Ultimately, all New Zealanders should fear and question Atlas's intercession into our democracy, and consider exactly what they want to accomplish by sowing all of this division. I foresee a future where New Zealand is sold off piecemeal to corporate interests, and a US-style healthcare system is implemented off the back of depriving one's fellow man of the scintilla of pride and authority they wield. And the worst of us will of course say "Well, we lost everything that made us New Zealanders, but at least no Maori flew higher than a Pakeha."
We should resist this outcome with all of our might. All of us should come together, ignore this racist assault on our laws, and turf out the real blight on our way of life: corporate interests.
LOL. You need an education.
Maori are not indigenous. The ancestry cannot say they originally came from here . They traveled here just like the rest of us . Now they may have been here first ,that's debatable, but indigenous to a countryside for example native American Indian, aborigines, Europeans, South American . They are indigenous to there part of the world . Maori traveled here . End of story .
False. Just because they came from somewhere else, doesn't mean they aren't indigenous. If that were the case, no one outside Africa would be indigenous. All those other people travelled to their parts of the world too. LOL How are you this poorly educated?
This is clear evidence of someone who didn’t graduate high school 😭
Maori have special privileges and rights the rest of New Zealand don't have. We cant have one right for one race and another right for the rest. That's apartheid by its very nature and why we protested against it during the 81 Springbok tour.
What a waste of time, Jack. Living and paying Tax over 30 year why I can get same right as her.
ducking and diving from this non-maori hater; attributing agendas to Seymour with no facts or basis and implying that only she and her fellow haters are capable of looking after all kiwis interests...
nO bAsIs.. LOL Seek education.
This Atlas bullshit is the best she can do as to why we shouldnt have equal rights ,the presenter didnt even press her on her wild conspiracy theories.
Unfortunately her grift is based on discrimination and division. No-one is trying to challenge anyone's existence.
False. ACT is the party dividing us. The rest of us stand united.
governments off the past havent PAID out ALL iwi around the rohe NGAPUHI and KAHUNUNU and MANY OTHER IWI STILL awaiting due payments..so why the principles bill by Act n coalition government when these major grievances are still outstanding over 180 years ...when will it END
The Crown pays nothing! The tax person pays including Maori people!
The crown have paid .02% of the revenue they have made from the illegal seizures and theft of land.
Fun fact
More money has been given back to land lords in one year (this year) by the crown, than to Maori since 1840
($2.9B / $2,900,000,000 in tax deductions)
Good on you Te Pati Maori. AWESOMENESS
"The atlas agenda" "The atlas collective" - Ladies and gentlemen, This is a leader of a political party using predatory behaviour/practices to radicalise Maori to the point where they become dissolutioned with politics and withdrawal to the Maori role. I want better for Maori, someone who understands that you (keep) policy over the line by winning hearts and minds not giving everyone who handed you the mic the middle finger.
Jacinda Ardern is responsible for most of the gains she claims in this piece. Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and her succession plan are merely tools of division.
wut? Seek education.
"Protect all new Zealanders from corporate exploitation"...
But what about "Maori exploitation", arguably a greater threat to kiwis
Look back on this comment when New Zealand is sold off piece by piece, and a US-style healthcare system is horrifically introduced. Will you admit that was worse then, or will you still say "Well we lost our way of life to corporate interests, but at least we didn't empower our fellow man?"
Debbie conducted a gun movement aimed at Act Members, wow Debbie is in trouble for her repugnant actions.
LOL. wut?
We need to get rid of this news company. They should be privatized and might to give a fear point of view about what is happening in New Zealand you're the only one.
That's lunacy. Seek help.
Jack is an embarrassment. This is as soft as marshmallow this interview compared to the David Seymour interview. Debbie is trying to deflect the Māori parties own dodgy dealings and blatant corruption by banging on about the atlas group .
Just as an adjunct to my earlier comment that the Maori Party exploits the myth of Maoridom, I add this: The Treaty was signed on behalf of the Crown by one principal (there were more than one signatory for the Crown but the signatures were in effect one) and 504 Maori Chiefs. There was no Maori race that was represented by one entity like the Crown was. Each tribe had it's view and some chose not to sign. That tribalism still remains. The head of Tainui is NOT my Queen. She is a product of a group set up by Maniapoto in the 1860's to try to amalgamate the voice of Maori in what was called the Tainui Confederation of Tribes". It didn't work then and it's not working now. Packer is like the rest of New Zealanders - she has many parts to her whakapapa and a representative of Maoridom is not one of them. She's a self-proclaimed power zealot - nothing more -nothing less.
That’s ok that you feel that. Over 90% of Maori disagree with you.
@@poerava Excuse me! Where TF did that stat come from. Another alternative fact paraded as truth won't make it so. 99% of Maori whi I am immersed with agree with me.
Question: "What's the [plan for opposing this bill from now on" Answer: We'll make as much political capital out of the select committee hearings and we'll sign up as many voters as possible so that we get to 3% votes at the next election
Thats not even a good argument.
Love the hair piece! Where's it from??
Basically political spin, demonising, and historical distortion. There were not two sovereigns. There was an agreement, based on sufficient sovereignty (actual rule) by the chiefs being ceded to the Sovereign, as proclaimed in May 1840.
Ongoing realisation in practice of tino rangatiratanga was for the settled government, incl through the Constitution Act 1852.
I doubt DNP has read the Matike Mai report again recently. It's a mess, solves nothing, reiterates make-believe solutions.
They never ceded sovereignty. You're poorly educated. You should seek education.
Jack using kid gloves.
Wait till they put a Maori tax on your land! Will you fight then!
That's scare mongering and not helpful to this debate
We’ve got crown tax on now.
Billions made for corporate interests.
No one bats an eye lid.
Have you ever heard ‘every accusation is a confession’?
That already happens - see council kickbacks and RMA "consultancy"
She's made it more complicated! She needs to be suspended after her antics in parliament! Very weak interview Jack!
Have you looked at the robbery of rates today mate?
She had brown hair when I knew her as a teenager and she got picked on by real Maori girls!
Tell me you’re a r@cist, without saying you’re r@cist.
Prepared her well to deal with the bullies in government now.
Indigenous rights are a silly unworkable concept
What a rude interview. Jack is a little boy having an adult conversation that doesn't effect him and his lineage at all. Thanks for not showing personal bias 'Jack#$@"
Maori vs their tuutua?
How can u be Indidunous when your mainly Irish your not special
why is the treaty not educated in maori and english languages in schools and universities thru out this nation !!!
If you’re one 100th Irish, you’ve got access to the unique indigenous rights in Ireland.
Have you ever asked why people don’t like Maori having similar rights to all indigenous peoples in the world?
Notice how no one has an issue with Spanish, Welsh, Irish, Swiss, Swedish etc. indigenous rights?
(It’s ok. Most people don’t even know that they have systemic r@cism in their behaviours and thinking).
Because she has Maori whakapapa. Racist.
Racists last century: "any drop of brown blood makes you a n*****."
Racists this century: "you're blood isn't pure enough to be brown."
Make up your racist mind.