A couple of spots for the Patagonia Tour next April have opened up. Follow the link for details. I will be wearing deodorant for the duration :) www.brendansadventures.com/travel-photography-workshops/patagonia-photography-tour-workshop/
Worried about the need for deodorant? It may mean one needs more zinc in ones diet. If one decides to take a supplement, only do so on a full stomach! Zinc works for me.
@Mr DejavuKing I should stick to letting professional therapists do this If I were you. The behaviour is only the half of it. It's managing the thought processes that accompany phobias that is the important bit. Yes I am a therapist BTW.
@Mr DejavuKing I'm not sure why my comment unleashed such fury? I don't think that the addition of a sentence, or maybe even another would have made a difference. It seems that TH-cam does allow people to do away with their inhibitions and talk to people in a way that would be considered extremely rude if done face to face, but that is another story and another theory I won't bother you with. Am I the only one making generalised comments here? I think not.
Fair plays to James, despite being a Lumix ambassador he's still honest in his appraisal of the auto focus system. Better but not quite on a par with Sony or Canons offerings. Someone from Lumix was probably cringing when he said that 🤣 Regardless, thanks for being honest James, a rare commodity nowadays.
@@brianlaunchbury4491 No they don't. I used all Olympus high end OM-D's with their Pro grade glass from 2012 till 2019 when I switched to the G9. Panasonic is, on most cases, far far ahead of Olympus and the AF is much better then what most people seem to think. Olympus does beat Panasonic for birds in flight though but not much else. On the other hand, Olympus is still down in the lower end of birds in flight competence compared to the other brands. And Olympus is kind of no more sad to say :(
I switched from my M50 to a G9 today mostly because of this channel, talk about timing!! Tbf you do have 2-3 years worth of videos to go back through to help me slowly master this beast which I'm still very happy to have :). Love the videos always very helpful and easy to follow.
Prediction on future videos anyone ? Ok, let me try: 10.2020 - "Why it`s great to have FF and MFT" 11.2020 - "Why I sold MFT" 12.2020 - "I`am happy with FF" 01.2021 - "Why I sold FF, and am going back to MFT"
I’m a proud owner of a g9, this camera has all I could want it to offer and even more. I have choosen mft for light weight and compacity when I’m hiking... When I want shallow depth of field or extra resolution I use an old digital medium format 😊 So I don’t need a full frame camera at all... And the best is that my two camera setup have cost me less than a FF camera with 2 or 3 lenses
Hi James, you using the m43-system was your unique selling point, at least for me. Learning what's possible with the small sensor was the one reason for me to subscribe to your channel. How are you going to differenciate yourself from all the countless photography channels now?
My main reason for following james is nothing even close for him admiring m43 - his way of speaking, explaining and telling irrelavent stories is one of his biggest selling points for me.
James , we are Pissed , this feels like a slap in the face to us Micro 4/3 guys - we quote your lines before we enter all full frame debate battles. We invested in this system because of your words and then now it’s gonna be a camera in your bag..... come on man..... gutted ... never once watched any reviews , we patiently waited to hear you talk it up but as always come back to our system ( Micro 4/3 ) ... I’m going over to Sony this is heartbreaking 🤣
Congrats with the new system when you get our own camera.Your TH-cam video "Why I'm ditching FULL FRAME" circles often in my TH-cam timeline as suggested videos. M43 lenses are still so much smaller and lighter. And that's why I still use my Oly OM-D 1 M2 while biking and longer hikes. I really like Lumix S5 small size. Have fun, good luck with finding a nice home in Whales.
I'm pretty sure it won't make a scrap of difference. Before you splash the cash on that, you should draw up a short list of lenses covering, say, 16 mm to 300 or 600. Then calculate how much they will weigh, what bags you want, and what sweetener you are going to offer Emily.
Here is a rough example of weight differences between a g9 system and S5.. my g9 bag has g9 + olympus 12 40 pro + olympus 40 150 pro + 42.5 1.7 = 1929 g.. S5 set up COULD be - S5 + 20 60mm + 50mm + 70 300mm = 1853 g. The full frame is a lighter system, with arguable lens differences. perhaps better glass in the MFT set up, but the camera counteracts this with better performance sensor.
As promised in an earlier comment, I am now having a fit. Not because of your move to full frame but because of my timing in acquiring a G9. All of the reasons for favoring M4/3 are still valid, nothing has changed in the camera-lens combination’s ability to produce stellar photos (and video including 10-bit 4-2-2). But the evil twins of gear lust and fear of missing out are making their presence known. Nattering away in the background. I think it’s time to turn my attention to learning Davinci Resolve. That ought to be enough to push them out of awareness. Quiet, dammit.
James, that’s one of the reasons I follow you. You’re an honest guy. Sure wish Canon had a honest Ambassador. They’re all puppets from their marketing department.
I was just thinking that 20-60 lens would be perfect for you. Covers everything alongside a 70-200 f4, and the fact it's "just" 2k for the kit of camera and lens is honestly amazing. Now if they come out with some more pocketable primes like what Canon has with their 35 1.8 or Sony with their 85 1.8 or the Tamron and Samyang offerings, that's a real winner even for an everyday setup.
Panasonic announced a set of compact f1.8 primes is coming soon, starting in November. 24, 35, 50 & 85. Plus Sigma’s brilliant 45/2.8 is already out and Panasonic US is including it as a preorder bonus on the S5
@@Reyfox1 The offer is available in Germany as well in some stores, so not US only. Might be worth checking for your market if you're interested in the camera. :)
Good luck with that. The heavy, expensive lenses are still an issue for me. Also, I'm concerned about how dark you think Wales is...& that with that thought, you still want to move there! 😳 😆 It's amazing the dubious arguments one can invent to justify a new gadget! 😆
Always enjoy watching your videos on Saturday mornings. Glad to see LUMIX is continuing to develop great cameras. I am sticking with Micro 4/3 because of the weight issue and honestly the expense of lenses for full frame. My guess is you will use the G9 more than the S5
James is 💯 my favourite photography TH-camr, he's funny, entertaining and more importantly takes really good photos. Has really good tips as well. Great guy!!!
Congratulations on the new camera! I'm looking forward to hearing lots more about the side-by-side differences between the cameras. Wales is so beautiful! Looking forward to your images from there.
I saw a number of reviews on the S5 but went straight for James' cos there's just a way his reviews connect with me. And then I realised I have always watched his video but never actually subb'd - how interesting. Done that now :)
Apart from the AF the G9 is a near perfect camera. The S5 is basically a Fullframe G9 with better AF. I think it’s going to do well. That being said, lenses are still a bit pricey.
Jo Vaagan really? I’ve been watching the tests closely. It seem on par or slightly better. The big change is the improvement on the pulsing and tracking faces. If it’s worse than the G9 then, for me that’s just unacceptable.
What do you think arer there OIS Wobbles in the corners in Video-Selfie-/Vlogging Mode? (Around ~ 8:12) Or were the corners jittery because of 20mm handheld wideangle?
Any time a big or expensive body or lens comes out for m43rds people comment about what a waste it is and that 'You might as well upgrade to Full Frame for the money'. I think what most Full Frame advocates fail to realize is that there is much more expense, sacrifice and commitment involved changing formats than simply purchasing a full frame camera body and lens. First off in general everything is bigger, heavier and more expensive. Full Frame can be almost as compact as m43rds but you are sacrificing the quality advantage of bigger glass to get it. In order to get that 2 stop advantage at the same aperture, you must use glass that is more or less twice as large and heavy. Having a compact FF body doesn't offer much of a quality advantage when you have to use similar sized glass as m43. You often also have to purchase new more expensive memory cards like dual XQD which can run several hundred extra dollars to get fast read/write speeds. If you use ND/Polarizing filters, you then must purchase them all over again for every single lens you choose to buy for the new system. New flashes, microphones, and basically any other accessory that will no longer be compatible with the new format. You have to learn an entirely new menu system which can take several months to adapt to and learn all the different features. FF cameras often only specialize in Photos and are weak in video options. Panasonic is starting to break that mold. But in general m43rds is a better hybrid system with a wide range of glass to choose from. If you add an extra m43rds body into the mix you can have a small travel camera system AND a larger professional system. I use the GX85 with a 20mm f1.7 and I can carry it with me in cargo pants or jackets everywhere. Then I can use the G9 body with the 10-25mm f1.7 along with a 35-100 f2.8 Zoom, flash and Mic in a shoulder bag to have a really powerful full range photo and video system getting most of the quality and range that FF cameras offer. I can always add a speedbooster with FF glass if I get desperate for extreme shallow depth of field and extra light. I was tempted with the S1 and the S5 also looks like a nice camera but after adding up expense and time investment VS. potential gains, I personally do not find it worth it if you already are in the m43rds system.
Micro four thirds lenses are super expensive too. Sigma and tamron ff lenses are pretty cheap compared to native m43 lenses. I think with some of these new ff systems the existing glass is limited and expensive, but give it time...
@Bob Jones, I don't care about subject separation greater than f2, and slow full frame lenses are small and frequently less expensive than their m43 equivalents - especially like-for-like depth of field. I use m43 because I take a camera everywhere, and the GX80 and pancake zoom fits in a jacket pocket. Also, I get all the DOF at require at f4, not f8 on full frame. Large m43 cameras like the G9 and E-M1X have benefits, better ergonomics and button placement, but they're increasingly niche unless you're heavily invested in lenses, or someone who likes to carry their whole lens kit all the time. Micro four thirds is increasingly a video format, where advantages in stabilisation, weight and price are in favour of the smaller format.
As much as I agree with your scenario, and own similar gear myself, let me offer another scenario. Canon Shooter (CS) is sick of Canon's poor video performance and goes to the GH3 or GH4. CS already has a bunch of Canon glass, buys a Speedbooster and Sigma 18-35, and makes a bunch of very nice videos for travel, commercial, narrative or documentary purposes. Upgrades to GH5 or GH5S for better low light conditions. But the m43 system lacks truly good colour and high ISO performance, so CS starts looking elsewhere. With a S5 and EF adapter, all can use all their existing Canon glass, taking complete advantage of full frame lenses, and still able to use the Sigma in aps-c mode. All filters, XLR adapter, even tripod and slider would remain the same because the S5 is the same size and weight as the GH5. You see, I'm in the second boat. I went to m43 from Canon and still own a 5D Mark II with glass. The S5 can plug straight into my kit with zero hassle and considerable gain. It will give me most of the video advantages of the GH5 and G9 but also the stills quality of the S1, and superior dynamic range and colours of full v log and v gamut. Yes, for a pure m43 shooter, it's an expensive upgrade. But for the scenario I proposed above, it's not. And given how many ex Canon shooters use their old lenses with the GH5, it's not uncommon.
Disagree. It's about the joy of taking photos and cost. I had the MFT with a G85 for many years. Fast lenses are very expensive with MFT. I brought a 2nd hand (like new) Nikon D750 a 2nd hand 50mm and 35mm 1.4 for not much more than a new G9. The depth of field is like art. It's a joy. It's fun. I can be much more creative. If I wanted to go mirrorless like James I can. Enjoy your camera system.
I was waiting for this so bad. Yeah, all the other reviewers are great at what they do, but when it comes to using a camera in the real world and putting through its paces, and doing all of that while being entertaining and honest and straight to the point, on that, you're unbeatable. I really wanted to hear your opinion on this camera since I've been considering a change of system for a while and this S5 really seems to be on the sweet spot for me. What do you think of the built quality? Keep up the good work James, really looking forward to seeing what this new chapter of your life in Wales brings. Greetings from Scotland! :)
Low light / night sky is what tempts me to full frame. Pricing and lens weight keep me with m4/3. If I ever get more serious about astro photography, that might tempt me into a used full frame body and a wide angle lens. Eager to see more s5 content from you. Maybe you could try wringing maximum low light performance out of the G9 and see how it compares.
Once the lens selection expands, you'll have access to lighter, more portable lenses. There have been some good, lightweight lenses for E mount now that the super fast, large aperture lens market is saturated. Some 1.8 or 2.8 primes on this bad boy would be a ton of fun! I love adapting older lenses to my Sony too, one of the main reasons I switched from m43 was to be able to keep my focal lengths as they were intended.
To keep the weight down and achieve similar noise levels you could try the Voigtländer(COSINA) : NOKTON 10.5mm F0.95 on the G9. You would have to be comfortable with manual focus but it has a very similar exit pupil so a similar signal on the sensor.
to help with the fear of heights issue: top rope climbing. get used to being up high and fall down from the top (preferably from exhaustion) at least once, in order to feel at ease with your safety gear. one things leads to another and it's gonna get better within a couple of weeks
I discovered your channel today and loved it very much, it's extremely helpful and motivating. But watching the video about you ditching full frame (actually the vid which landed me onto your channel) then the video about you praising your 4/3 experience and then the video about you moving back to full frame, and watching all those vids almost in a row was quite weird :D I understand that time flies and personal preferences change, but still amuzing. Bad thing is that it probably proves that 4/3 system gonna die very soon, the compact niche gonna be filled 100% by phones and the "pro" niche with full frame and multi-kg lenses. And I hate both phones and heavy full frame gear which makes me deadly tired after first hour of carrying it :( Depression.
James - I really enjoy your (I'm going to say cynical) nature when it comes to gear. I get sooooooo bored listening to people that just got sent stuff (bikes, coffee, cameras... pretty much insert sponsored thing here) raving on and on about how MORE IS SO MUCH BETTER YOU NEED MORE AND NEW! IT MUST BE NEW! AND NEW AND MORE! WHOA. Lovely to hear an extremely talented photographer talk about having a single body and being more thoughtful about things. (Granted, there are times more than one body is appropriate, but I don't think that's the discussion here).
Hi Saw the video on the Panasonic S5. I recently bought it, along with the 45 mm Sigma lens. That lens is small, light, and fast. It makes the S5 seem like you are holding a micro four thirds camera setup. Great camera. Low light capability.
I don't typically watch camera reviews unless they are Canon but I put that bias aside for James and watched the whole thing. He's that entertaining. ;)
As.always brilliant James. I'm certain you could.make a video on a bag of rocks totally entertaining. Throw in photography stuff and you hit one outta the park... !
The problem of heavy lenses for full frame may be resolved by Panasonic. They are introducing relatively small primes to go with the L-mount cameras. The first is the new 85mm. It's also cheap, some $600.
Hi James, fantastic, your videos are so good. Hahaha... good to hear you again, my brain just geysired up a lot of micro4thirds + James memories. Your creations are so personal and honest. Should remind us all that changing your mind is part of a creating and learning.
Funny when I think back on the number of times I re-watched your video on switching from your Nikon full frame to the micro 4/3 system, and although you made so much sense, I just stuck with full frame thinking that since I can only afford one, I concluded ff is just gonna be best at the photography styles I want to try (loads of emphasis on try)..... so I just switched from Nikon to Sony mirrorless ...... and yeah, lenses still big & heavy and too bloody expensive........ looking forward to see you enjoying the s5, it does look like Lumix are on to a winner - but obviously, we love your vids no matter what you’re shooting with 👍😎 - Mike
I am also a g9 shooter and waited for a g9 full frame version but i still see the benefits of the g9 and used it for three years as my main workhose for jobs. Do you think the s5 is a great full fre upgrade from the g9? How Sharpness and picture quality compare to the g9? Would like to see some comparison as i would like to use the side by side as i wanna use one new lens with the s5 as i am slowly building up the new system
Lots of comparisons to come. It's a very different camera to the G9, which can shoot really fast frame rates compared to the S5, so it's not like for like, but the sensor is more capable :)
If YOU are leaving micro four thirds... Then who is staying? Will Panasonic even care to make more mft-cameras? I remember you saying that size matters...and it should be small.
@@GeneWaddle I heard all that, thank you. But I (as many other commenters here) don't believe he'll be using that g9 much....It's only camera gear, after all.
@@GeneWaddle I can put it this simple: I just bought a FF-camera and thought I'd keep both systems. But ended up selling my mft-gear because of low-light issues. And I found out I can buy secondhand Canon gear for less than mft-gear. This is not uncommon, and I might suspect James here is going to do the same...
Trying to decide whether to sell off the G9 and some other gear for the S5. Same size, similar features but with bigger sensor? Mainly for Stills work. Tough decision.
Lol. I think I commented when you switched to M4/3 that people tend to want what they don't have. E.g. you switch to a lighter system - you will compromise low light capability and IQ... then you miss the IQ and low light - so decide it's worth switching back....then you hate it being heavy again. The only way I have got around it is to have options and decide what you are taking with you at any point. Personally I chose the Sony platform (back in about 2014) because it allowed me to have the same lens mount for both FF and APS-C, but these days I don't think that it matters which camera system someone chooses - they are all great. What I am hoping to see at some point is some smaller FF lenses but at higher apertures. People are happy with an F2.8 for M4/3, why not make a light F5.6 lens that is sharp. I am super intrigued by the Canon 600mm F11 and such, also hearing about a Sony pancake zoom that is coming. Look forward to seeing how you get on with that S5.
Not an m43 user but James' videos helped me not get caught up with the FF madness shooting a smaller sensor (Fuji APS-C). Crucial stretch coming up for m43 with Olympus gone and Lumix seemingly prioritizing their FF offerings more over m43 the past couple of years. Heck Lumix sent James 2 Lumix S series cameras in 14 months, you can't really blame the guy for seeing where this is headed. Will still watch cuz actually curious on how Panasonic FF fares for photography since up til now the prominent influencers are mostly using the cameras for video.
Noooo, I was so happy that you always showed these amazing photos with your mft Camara while everyone is telling that mft is not enough. I am looking forward to see the rest of your journey. I love your landscape photos, they are influencing my style quite a lot.
Anyone have any idea at what point the weight savings between MFT and full frame makes a bigger difference than a good bag strap? No amount of weight taken out of my bag (sometimes almost 5 pounds or 2.2 kilos) has ever made a bigger difference than switching to a more comfortable strap.
Full frame just needs more high quality slower lenses. You can get slow ff lenses which are sharper than m43 lenses and have the same weight, and the big sensor makes up for lower f stops, but theyre rarely very rugged (compared to like pro olympus lenses). Samyang make great light pancake primes for the fe system - hopefully they will bring some over to L mount.
Nice! I was waiting for this video :) I LOVE m43. Lens selection, sizes, IBIS, image quality- m43 delivers all of IT! But :) S5 is game changer. Compact, well designed, L-Mount, looks like it has superb ergonomics, thanks to G9 DNA :) Only one thing what stops me - lenses :) Give me super compact f/4 or superb lightweight primes, not like monstrous Panasonic 50/1.4 or impossible to use wide open Sigma 45/2.8 and my soul is sold :) until that - m43.
At first glance I was interested when I saw that the S5 actually has a pixel-shift hires mode. But for one, changing systems would be much too expensive (as I already have all I need for m43), and then there's the size, weight and price of FF lenses for this system. Alternatives are good, but this one would not fit the bill for me. Nice to see that it does for you, and let's see how this goes …
Have you tested the auto focus - face and eye detect - in low light scenarios, for photography? I am a GH5 user and I would really hate to switch to Sony just for low light and auto focus for photography.
@@JamesPopsysPhoto everything I've read on the topic indicates that pixel density has little impact on noise. But I don't have either a m43 or FF camera to verify that with, so I'll have to take your word for it. Enjoy the new camera either way :)
I'm just curious, being that the S5 is basically a Sony a73 with some improvements and slightly worse video AF, why do you prefer the Panasonic Lumix to the Cheaper Sony system? Not throwing shade or anything, I would like to know for myself.
hi James, I am thinking to buy G9. Do you recommend it or I should wait for GHSX for photography? I am interested in photography, not video, and definitely for minimalist cameras. thank you.
It's pretty clear to me that new isn't always better, I've stuck with the G85 for a lot of professional work (even in low light) and still performs quite good. I thought about getting the G9, but I get the feeling that now with the S5 is really the time to make a change 🤔 shame about the lenses size/weight, that may be the only thing keeping me from jumping into it.
I will be very interested to hear about lenses, particularly how you feel about the weight of the L-mount glass. Like you, I went to mft for the weight savings. And most of that weight is lenses.
Hi James, watching your videos always made me feel good. I am in love with Olympus M4/3 (had a FF Canon EOS5 before that), but am surrounded by FF fans. Not that I think there‘s a big difference in image quality, at least in my opinion. It believe that depends more on the photographer. But now I feel I am hitting a dead end. What a pity thinking about all my beautiful Olympus pro lenses. Very sad day for me. But thank you for all your great wok and humor. And I do understand that with FF, you are reaching a far greater audience.... cheers, Thomas
All I kept thinking throughout the video James is that you've finally come to your senses. You were always going to move back up to full frame. Micro four thirds never had a chance. Not sure what took so long...we ve had small full frame mirorless cameras for years. Peak District, Wales weather and light...pretty much the same so not too sure about that argument. I think it's the "spend some money" bug.
haha, the old n+1! What with the pandemic I expect to be shooting local much more - that's where the light comes in to play really - although I didn't explain that did I...
Hi James, i’ve still got my tandem paragliding license (although i’m predominantly in Bassano del Grappa now) but i’m sure a little flight will help with the height thing :), deodorant application prior is preferred
A couple of spots for the Patagonia Tour next April have opened up. Follow the link for details. I will be wearing deodorant for the duration :)
www.brendansadventures.com/travel-photography-workshops/patagonia-photography-tour-workshop/
Ditch the deo. Be free
Will you be hauling your new FF lenses up the Patagonian andes or will you take your G9?
Worried about the need for deodorant? It may mean one needs more zinc in ones diet. If one decides to take a supplement, only do so on a full stomach! Zinc works for me.
@Mr DejavuKing I should stick to letting professional therapists do this If I were you. The behaviour is only the half of it. It's managing the thought processes that accompany phobias that is the important bit. Yes I am a therapist BTW.
@Mr DejavuKing I'm not sure why my comment unleashed such fury? I don't think that the addition of a sentence, or maybe even another would have made a difference. It seems that TH-cam does allow people to do away with their inhibitions and talk to people in a way that would be considered extremely rude if done face to face, but that is another story and another theory I won't bother you with. Am I the only one making generalised comments here? I think not.
Oh James, James, James, you'll be telling us you're buying a new tripod next.....
Oh he did that! Wow
He even purchased a Sony A7Riv!! The boldness!
Fair plays to James, despite being a Lumix ambassador he's still honest in his appraisal of the auto focus system. Better but not quite on a par with Sony or Canons offerings. Someone from Lumix was probably cringing when he said that 🤣 Regardless, thanks for being honest James, a rare commodity nowadays.
But still ignores the fact (check the reviews) that Olympus knocks spots off Lumix!
Just enjoyed this guys take on the lumix af - th-cam.com/video/tUhJ4O5azmE/w-d-xo.html
mburkevidz has he seen or used a S5? Don’t think so.....
Brian Launchbury do they have 4K 422 10bit in full frame?
@@brianlaunchbury4491 No they don't. I used all Olympus high end OM-D's with their Pro grade glass from 2012 till 2019 when I switched to the G9. Panasonic is, on most cases, far far ahead of Olympus and the AF is much better then what most people seem to think. Olympus does beat Panasonic for birds in flight though but not much else. On the other hand, Olympus is still down in the lower end of birds in flight competence compared to the other brands. And Olympus is kind of no more sad to say :(
I switched from my M50 to a G9 today mostly because of this channel, talk about timing!! Tbf you do have 2-3 years worth of videos to go back through to help me slowly master this beast which I'm still very happy to have :). Love the videos always very helpful and easy to follow.
Prediction on future videos anyone ? Ok, let me try:
10.2020 - "Why it`s great to have FF and MFT"
11.2020 - "Why I sold MFT"
12.2020 - "I`am happy with FF"
01.2021 - "Why I sold FF, and am going back to MFT"
So you expect the gh6 to be announced in January? 😉
GH6/G10 confirmed
which all makes excellent YT content on this great channel :)
And he ended up going with SONY!!
@@crazyasianskills yes, and even worse - my prediction is late by 10 months 🤣🤣🤣
oh, 10min of james talking non stop. Love it. Want it.
haha, thanks for watching :)
9:57
I’m a proud owner of a g9, this camera has all I could want it to offer and even more. I have choosen mft for light weight and compacity when I’m hiking... When I want shallow depth of field or extra resolution I use an old digital medium format 😊 So I don’t need a full frame camera at all... And the best is that my two camera setup have cost me less than a FF camera with 2 or 3 lenses
Great dry humour as always, not just that though the photography bits are excellent as well. Thanks James.
Just admit you wanted full frame
Haha, as I explain...
Mmmm...Hmmmm
“Love, you want to move back to Wales you say? You do know this means I’ll need a full frame camera right?”
Haha, sounds like me when I swapped to FF from APS-C with Sony.
Got the G9 and GH5. Think I will wait for the new GH6 before I decide. FF lenses is still expensive and heavy. Love the M43 weight.
Is the full frame 20-60 lens still the same weight as pro m43 lenses?
@@giac01 size is similar Leica 12-60, weight 30 gr more
Humor on point, also that shot at 1:16 is really stunning!
Honestly, I start every morning with James rambling about things I cant afford, and im so ok with it
Exactly but enjoying it, one day bro 🙌🏾
Had to give my loaner back to Panasonic today. LOVE this camera. Might just have to buy one. Great vid dude!
Hi James, you using the m43-system was your unique selling point, at least for me. Learning what's possible with the small sensor was the one reason for me to subscribe to your channel. How are you going to differenciate yourself from all the countless photography channels now?
Agreed!
I dunno maybe his personality? The man is more than his gear.
@@liamkelly3251 This is true for any other channel too.
My main reason for following james is nothing even close for him admiring m43 - his way of speaking, explaining and telling irrelavent stories is one of his biggest selling points for me.
@@stephanjanssen2293 That's great!
James , we are Pissed , this feels like a slap in the face to us Micro 4/3 guys - we quote your lines before we enter all full frame debate battles. We invested in this system because of your words and then now it’s gonna be a camera in your bag..... come on man..... gutted ... never once watched any reviews , we patiently waited to hear you talk it up but as always come back to our system ( Micro 4/3 ) ... I’m going over to Sony this is heartbreaking 🤣
Love your delivery style. Never trying too hard just being yourself and sharing your perspective. Great job with your channel!
Congrats with the new system when you get our own camera.Your TH-cam video "Why I'm ditching FULL FRAME" circles often in my TH-cam timeline as suggested videos. M43 lenses are still so much smaller and lighter. And that's why I still use my Oly OM-D 1 M2 while biking and longer hikes. I really like Lumix S5 small size. Have fun, good luck with finding a nice home in Whales.
I'm pretty sure it won't make a scrap of difference.
Before you splash the cash on that, you should draw up a short list of lenses covering, say, 16 mm to 300 or 600. Then calculate how much they will weigh, what bags you want, and what sweetener you are going to offer Emily.
Here is a rough example of weight differences between a g9 system and S5.. my g9 bag has g9 + olympus 12 40 pro + olympus 40 150 pro + 42.5 1.7 = 1929 g.. S5 set up COULD be - S5 + 20 60mm + 50mm + 70 300mm = 1853 g. The full frame is a lighter system, with arguable lens differences. perhaps better glass in the MFT set up, but the camera counteracts this with better performance sensor.
As promised in an earlier comment, I am now having a fit. Not because of your move to full frame but because of my timing in acquiring a G9. All of the reasons for favoring M4/3 are still valid, nothing has changed in the camera-lens combination’s ability to produce stellar photos (and video including 10-bit 4-2-2). But the evil twins of gear lust and fear of missing out are making their presence known. Nattering away in the background. I think it’s time to turn my attention to learning Davinci Resolve. That ought to be enough to push them out of awareness. Quiet, dammit.
I just hope he continues using the G9 and reports on it. A S5 only channel hurts us M43 users... there are plenty of FF channels out there.
@@Reyfox1 Haven't seen him use in lately cuz "The WiFi on the G9 doesn't work." Yeah, right.
James, that’s one of the reasons I follow you. You’re an honest guy. Sure wish Canon had a honest Ambassador. They’re all puppets from their marketing department.
I was just thinking that 20-60 lens would be perfect for you. Covers everything alongside a 70-200 f4, and the fact it's "just" 2k for the kit of camera and lens is honestly amazing. Now if they come out with some more pocketable primes like what Canon has with their 35 1.8 or Sony with their 85 1.8 or the Tamron and Samyang offerings, that's a real winner even for an everyday setup.
Panasonic announced a set of compact f1.8 primes is coming soon, starting in November. 24, 35, 50 & 85. Plus Sigma’s brilliant 45/2.8 is already out and Panasonic US is including it as a preorder bonus on the S5
@@adam_mawz_maas Yeah.... only the US.... they must have something against the rest of the world....
@@Reyfox1 The offer is available in Germany as well in some stores, so not US only. Might be worth checking for your market if you're interested in the camera. :)
@@MichaelS-zg1nn here in Poland... nothing that I could find. But that's ok... I can wait.
Good luck with that. The heavy, expensive lenses are still an issue for me. Also, I'm concerned about how dark you think Wales is...& that with that thought, you still want to move there! 😳 😆
It's amazing the dubious arguments one can invent to justify a new gadget! 😆
Loved your little review and the way you tried to convince yourself that you need it hahaha!
Subbed ;)
Will you miss Derbyshire? I'm just up the road in Burton upon Trent.......Castleton at Christmas is gorgeous...well any normal Christmas.....
Always enjoy watching your videos on Saturday mornings. Glad to see LUMIX is continuing to develop great cameras. I am sticking with Micro 4/3 because of the weight issue and honestly the expense of lenses for full frame. My guess is you will use the G9 more than the S5
James is 💯 my favourite photography TH-camr, he's funny, entertaining and more importantly takes really good photos. Has really good tips as well. Great guy!!!
Thanks so much :)
Congratulations on the new camera! I'm looking forward to hearing lots more about the side-by-side differences between the cameras. Wales is so beautiful! Looking forward to your images from there.
I saw a number of reviews on the S5 but went straight for James' cos there's just a way his reviews connect with me. And then I realised I have always watched his video but never actually subb'd - how interesting. Done that now :)
At 08:00 outdoor video your backround jitter / wobble. Careful of that and f*** the auto focus :)
Apart from the AF the G9 is a near perfect camera. The S5 is basically a Fullframe G9 with better AF. I think it’s going to do well. That being said, lenses are still a bit pricey.
Imo, half of what makes the g9 exceptional is the m43 lenses. The best pro m43 lenses are smaller and cheaper than the average FF lenses.
GPadugan this is true. I just switched from Fuji and the Lumix Leica 25mm f1.4 is one of my favourite lenses I’ve used so far.
Alejandro Ilukewitsch that’s what they’re telling us... not convinced, though.
@@adinwalls the S5 so far seems way worse than the G9. I really hopes James can do a comparison before he kicks the G9 out...
Jo Vaagan really? I’ve been watching the tests closely. It seem on par or slightly better. The big change is the improvement on the pulsing and tracking faces. If it’s worse than the G9 then, for me that’s just unacceptable.
Oh no!!! You're dumping M43! You have knocked the last nail on the coffin of this beautiful system! Hahaha.
Nope, just adding another system :)
What do you think arer there OIS Wobbles in the corners in Video-Selfie-/Vlogging Mode? (Around ~ 8:12) Or were the corners jittery because of 20mm handheld wideangle?
Any time a big or expensive body or lens comes out for m43rds people comment about what a waste it is and that 'You might as well upgrade to Full Frame for the money'. I think what most Full Frame advocates fail to realize is that there is much more expense, sacrifice and commitment involved changing formats than simply purchasing a full frame camera body and lens.
First off in general everything is bigger, heavier and more expensive. Full Frame can be almost as compact as m43rds but you are sacrificing the quality advantage of bigger glass to get it. In order to get that 2 stop advantage at the same aperture, you must use glass that is more or less twice as large and heavy. Having a compact FF body doesn't offer much of a quality advantage when you have to use similar sized glass as m43. You often also have to purchase new more expensive memory cards like dual XQD which can run several hundred extra dollars to get fast read/write speeds. If you use ND/Polarizing filters, you then must purchase them all over again for every single lens you choose to buy for the new system. New flashes, microphones, and basically any other accessory that will no longer be compatible with the new format. You have to learn an entirely new menu system which can take several months to adapt to and learn all the different features. FF cameras often only specialize in Photos and are weak in video options. Panasonic is starting to break that mold. But in general m43rds is a better hybrid system with a wide range of glass to choose from.
If you add an extra m43rds body into the mix you can have a small travel camera system AND a larger professional system. I use the GX85 with a 20mm f1.7 and I can carry it with me in cargo pants or jackets everywhere. Then I can use the G9 body with the 10-25mm f1.7 along with a 35-100 f2.8 Zoom, flash and Mic in a shoulder bag to have a really powerful full range photo and video system getting most of the quality and range that FF cameras offer. I can always add a speedbooster with FF glass if I get desperate for extreme shallow depth of field and extra light.
I was tempted with the S1 and the S5 also looks like a nice camera but after adding up expense and time investment VS. potential gains, I personally do not find it worth it if you already are in the m43rds system.
Micro four thirds lenses are super expensive too. Sigma and tamron ff lenses are pretty cheap compared to native m43 lenses. I think with some of these new ff systems the existing glass is limited and expensive, but give it time...
@Bob Jones, I don't care about subject separation greater than f2, and slow full frame lenses are small and frequently less expensive than their m43 equivalents - especially like-for-like depth of field. I use m43 because I take a camera everywhere, and the GX80 and pancake zoom fits in a jacket pocket. Also, I get all the DOF at require at f4, not f8 on full frame.
Large m43 cameras like the G9 and E-M1X have benefits, better ergonomics and button placement, but they're increasingly niche unless you're heavily invested in lenses, or someone who likes to carry their whole lens kit all the time. Micro four thirds is increasingly a video format, where advantages in stabilisation, weight and price are in favour of the smaller format.
As much as I agree with your scenario, and own similar gear myself, let me offer another scenario. Canon Shooter (CS) is sick of Canon's poor video performance and goes to the GH3 or GH4. CS already has a bunch of Canon glass, buys a Speedbooster and Sigma 18-35, and makes a bunch of very nice videos for travel, commercial, narrative or documentary purposes. Upgrades to GH5 or GH5S for better low light conditions. But the m43 system lacks truly good colour and high ISO performance, so CS starts looking elsewhere. With a S5 and EF adapter, all can use all their existing Canon glass, taking complete advantage of full frame lenses, and still able to use the Sigma in aps-c mode. All filters, XLR adapter, even tripod and slider would remain the same because the S5 is the same size and weight as the GH5.
You see, I'm in the second boat. I went to m43 from Canon and still own a 5D Mark II with glass. The S5 can plug straight into my kit with zero hassle and considerable gain. It will give me most of the video advantages of the GH5 and G9 but also the stills quality of the S1, and superior dynamic range and colours of full v log and v gamut.
Yes, for a pure m43 shooter, it's an expensive upgrade. But for the scenario I proposed above, it's not. And given how many ex Canon shooters use their old lenses with the GH5, it's not uncommon.
Disagree. It's about the joy of taking photos and cost. I had the MFT with a G85 for many years. Fast lenses are very expensive with MFT. I brought a 2nd hand (like new) Nikon D750 a 2nd hand 50mm and 35mm 1.4 for not much more than a new G9. The depth of field is like art. It's a joy. It's fun. I can be much more creative. If I wanted to go mirrorless like James I can. Enjoy your camera system.
@@mafianoodles Well sure. Used lenses are always an option. There is expensive and cheap lenses for every format.
You can get a Konica 40mm 1.8 and a AR-L mount adapter. And it’s absolutely tiny.
Good luck with the move, James :)
I was waiting for this so bad. Yeah, all the other reviewers are great at what they do, but when it comes to using a camera in the real world and putting through its paces, and doing all of that while being entertaining and honest and straight to the point, on that, you're unbeatable. I really wanted to hear your opinion on this camera since I've been considering a change of system for a while and this S5 really seems to be on the sweet spot for me. What do you think of the built quality?
Keep up the good work James, really looking forward to seeing what this new chapter of your life in Wales brings. Greetings from Scotland! :)
Cheers Kevin! Build is typical Lumix. Bulletproof basically :)
Low light / night sky is what tempts me to full frame. Pricing and lens weight keep me with m4/3. If I ever get more serious about astro photography, that might tempt me into a used full frame body and a wide angle lens.
Eager to see more s5 content from you. Maybe you could try wringing maximum low light performance out of the G9 and see how it compares.
we already know how the G9 low light will compare to the S5..... that's the FF advantage.
Is focus transition feature available in S5?
Once the lens selection expands, you'll have access to lighter, more portable lenses. There have been some good, lightweight lenses for E mount now that the super fast, large aperture lens market is saturated. Some 1.8 or 2.8 primes on this bad boy would be a ton of fun! I love adapting older lenses to my Sony too, one of the main reasons I switched from m43 was to be able to keep my focal lengths as they were intended.
Panasonic also announced that they'll be making 24, 35, 50 and 85mm 1.8 primes for this system, as well as a 70-300.
Moving to Wales is the best excuse I’ve ever heard for buying a new camera.
Honestly I don’t blame him.
To keep the weight down and achieve similar noise levels you could try the Voigtländer(COSINA) : NOKTON 10.5mm F0.95 on the G9. You would have to be comfortable with manual focus but it has a very similar exit pupil so a similar signal on the sensor.
Ooops I meant entrance pupil not exit pupil.
Thank you can’t wait for more on this new camera setup.
Please try shooting film 🙏
I'd love to see what you could do with black and white like hp5
Best of luck with your new purchase.
to help with the fear of heights issue:
top rope climbing. get used to being up high and fall down from the top (preferably from exhaustion) at least once, in order to feel at ease with your safety gear.
one things leads to another and it's gonna get better within a couple of weeks
I discovered your channel today and loved it very much, it's extremely helpful and motivating. But watching the video about you ditching full frame (actually the vid which landed me onto your channel) then the video about you praising your 4/3 experience and then the video about you moving back to full frame, and watching all those vids almost in a row was quite weird :D I understand that time flies and personal preferences change, but still amuzing.
Bad thing is that it probably proves that 4/3 system gonna die very soon, the compact niche gonna be filled 100% by phones and the "pro" niche with full frame and multi-kg lenses. And I hate both phones and heavy full frame gear which makes me deadly tired after first hour of carrying it :( Depression.
Agreed. I also hate phones and heavy gear. It's really sad if m43 is dying.
Is it about the same size as the g85?
James - I really enjoy your (I'm going to say cynical) nature when it comes to gear. I get sooooooo bored listening to people that just got sent stuff (bikes, coffee, cameras... pretty much insert sponsored thing here) raving on and on about how MORE IS SO MUCH BETTER YOU NEED MORE AND NEW! IT MUST BE NEW! AND NEW AND MORE! WHOA. Lovely to hear an extremely talented photographer talk about having a single body and being more thoughtful about things. (Granted, there are times more than one body is appropriate, but I don't think that's the discussion here).
Cheers Sam, much appreciated :)
I would love to have more than just one body.
Just got an Olympus pro 12-100 lens, awesome 1 lens kit! I pity you but we all have the madness to get stuff...
You were the chosen one.
Amazing videos still!
Happy to see your not ditching MFT completely. Please keep on making MFT video's in the future!
Still happy with G80 and also selling sony A6300 because it won't make much of a difference really.
regarding the height issue mate - join the Army. Loved the first photo at the beach mate - loved it.
Hi Saw the video on the Panasonic S5. I recently bought it, along with the 45 mm Sigma lens. That lens is small, light, and fast. It makes the S5 seem like you are holding a micro four thirds camera setup. Great camera. Low light capability.
I don't typically watch camera reviews unless they are Canon but I put that bias aside for James and watched the whole thing. He's that entertaining. ;)
As.always brilliant James. I'm certain you could.make a video on a bag of rocks totally entertaining. Throw in photography stuff and you hit one outta the park... !
James, has your S5 came in and are you liking it? I have a G9 and am really thinking about also picking up the S5
The problem of heavy lenses for full frame may be resolved by Panasonic. They are introducing relatively small primes to go with the L-mount cameras. The first is the new 85mm. It's also cheap, some $600.
Regardless of which camera brand or what sensor size you use, I find your videos educational and entertaining. Thank you.
Hi James, fantastic, your videos are so good. Hahaha... good to hear you again, my brain just geysired up a lot of micro4thirds + James memories. Your creations are so personal and honest. Should remind us all that changing your mind is part of a creating and learning.
Thanks so much Annie :)
Which camera you use for your content??
Funny when I think back on the number of times I re-watched your video on switching from your Nikon full frame to the micro 4/3 system, and although you made so much sense, I just stuck with full frame thinking that since I can only afford one, I concluded ff is just gonna be best at the photography styles I want to try (loads of emphasis on try)..... so I just switched from Nikon to Sony mirrorless ...... and yeah, lenses still big & heavy and too bloody expensive........ looking forward to see you enjoying the s5, it does look like Lumix are on to a winner - but obviously, we love your vids no matter what you’re shooting with 👍😎 - Mike
Cheers Mike! It's a fast moving world hey! :)
I am also a g9 shooter and waited for a g9 full frame version but i still see the benefits of the g9 and used it for three years as my main workhose for jobs. Do you think the s5 is a great full fre upgrade from the g9? How Sharpness and picture quality compare to the g9? Would like to see some comparison as i would like to use the side by side as i wanna use one new lens with the s5 as i am slowly building up the new system
Lots of comparisons to come. It's a very different camera to the G9, which can shoot really fast frame rates compared to the S5, so it's not like for like, but the sensor is more capable :)
If YOU are leaving micro four thirds... Then who is staying? Will Panasonic even care to make more mft-cameras? I remember you saying that size matters...and it should be small.
If you actually pay attention to the video you should know that he said plainly that he's keeping the G-9 in addition to the new one.
@@GeneWaddle I heard all that, thank you. But I (as many other commenters here) don't believe he'll be using that g9 much....It's only camera gear, after all.
@@thedavidbrother2 Why is it so hard to just take someone at their word, especially when it doesn't hurt you in any way?
@@GeneWaddle I can put it this simple: I just bought a FF-camera and thought I'd keep both systems. But ended up selling my mft-gear because of low-light issues. And I found out I can buy secondhand Canon gear for less than mft-gear. This is not uncommon, and I might suspect James here is going to do the same...
Trying to decide whether to sell off the G9 and some other gear for the S5. Same size, similar features but with bigger sensor? Mainly for Stills work. Tough decision.
Very tough. I think S5 is better for landscapes, G9 better for action. It's obviously more complicated than that though...
3:25 which lens?
Lol. I think I commented when you switched to M4/3 that people tend to want what they don't have. E.g. you switch to a lighter system - you will compromise low light capability and IQ... then you miss the IQ and low light - so decide it's worth switching back....then you hate it being heavy again. The only way I have got around it is to have options and decide what you are taking with you at any point. Personally I chose the Sony platform (back in about 2014) because it allowed me to have the same lens mount for both FF and APS-C, but these days I don't think that it matters which camera system someone chooses - they are all great. What I am hoping to see at some point is some smaller FF lenses but at higher apertures. People are happy with an F2.8 for M4/3, why not make a light F5.6 lens that is sharp. I am super intrigued by the Canon 600mm F11 and such, also hearing about a Sony pancake zoom that is coming. Look forward to seeing how you get on with that S5.
Enjoy your new camera!🙏🏾
Not an m43 user but James' videos helped me not get caught up with the FF madness shooting a smaller sensor (Fuji APS-C). Crucial stretch coming up for m43 with Olympus gone and Lumix seemingly prioritizing their FF offerings more over m43 the past couple of years. Heck Lumix sent James 2 Lumix S series cameras in 14 months, you can't really blame the guy for seeing where this is headed. Will still watch cuz actually curious on how Panasonic FF fares for photography since up til now the prominent influencers are mostly using the cameras for video.
How about battery? It's comparable with a dslr?
I'm not sure about that, didn't last quite as long as I'd have liked - more testing needed though...
Best 'review' of s5 so far :)
now I want chocolate!
When James Popsys declare S5 his new camera, that must mean the death of M4/3 as a system.
That's a joke, right? It must be.
Followed by the end of civilization.
My thought too. Was just about to buy a g90 for video...but now...? Who knows...
Once you move to Wales, take your G9 and a tele-lens to the "Mach Loop". (Maybe bring ear plugs too.)
I cannot wait for this!
Noooo, I was so happy that you always showed these amazing photos with your mft Camara while everyone is telling that mft is not enough. I am looking forward to see the rest of your journey. I love your landscape photos, they are influencing my style quite a lot.
Anyone have any idea at what point the weight savings between MFT and full frame makes a bigger difference than a good bag strap? No amount of weight taken out of my bag (sometimes almost 5 pounds or 2.2 kilos) has ever made a bigger difference than switching to a more comfortable strap.
Yep, a good bag makes all the difference :)
Full frame just needs more high quality slower lenses. You can get slow ff lenses which are sharper than m43 lenses and have the same weight, and the big sensor makes up for lower f stops, but theyre rarely very rugged (compared to like pro olympus lenses). Samyang make great light pancake primes for the fe system - hopefully they will bring some over to L mount.
The 20-60 lumix lens looks awesome! Its also about the same weight as the pro f2.8 m43 lenses...
Nice! I was waiting for this video :) I LOVE m43. Lens selection, sizes, IBIS, image quality- m43 delivers all of IT! But :) S5 is game changer. Compact, well designed, L-Mount, looks like it has superb ergonomics, thanks to G9 DNA :) Only one thing what stops me - lenses :) Give me super compact f/4 or superb lightweight primes, not like monstrous Panasonic 50/1.4 or impossible to use wide open Sigma 45/2.8 and my soul is sold :) until that - m43.
I'm not so patiently waiting for the f1.8 set of primes :)
Yes! I was waiting to hear your thought on the new S5 🙌🏽
Welcome back to the the land of the god buddy. Where you moving too area wise ?
Great overview
everytime I watch your video, I enjoy so much. haha Keep it up!
Will be very interested in the f1.8 primes added to this nice looking body.
Me too! Hopefully they're here soon :)
How about the IBIS ?
Incredible reasoning!! I need full frame as Wales has more cloud 😂😂👍🏼
haha, something like that...
At first glance I was interested when I saw that the S5 actually has a pixel-shift hires mode. But for one, changing systems would be much too expensive (as I already have all I need for m43), and then there's the size, weight and price of FF lenses for this system. Alternatives are good, but this one would not fit the bill for me. Nice to see that it does for you, and let's see how this goes …
Have you tested the auto focus - face and eye detect - in low light scenarios, for photography?
I am a GH5 user and I would really hate to switch to Sony just for low light and auto focus for photography.
So all of your photos from Wales will have a super shallow DoF? Otherwise I'm not really seeing any "low light advantage"?
Simply put, a bigger sensor with the same number of pixels should produce less noise. :)
@@JamesPopsysPhoto everything I've read on the topic indicates that pixel density has little impact on noise. But I don't have either a m43 or FF camera to verify that with, so I'll have to take your word for it. Enjoy the new camera either way :)
I had to get the s5. internal 6k at 200mbs 25% crop unlike the s1h6k full frame at 20mbs but for half the price!!!
When is the Panasonic S5 going to be officially released.
Was that a rehearsal of the speech you're giving to Emily to convince her you need a new camera? 😂
haha, something like that!
I'm just curious, being that the S5 is basically a Sony a73 with some improvements and slightly worse video AF, why do you prefer the Panasonic Lumix to the Cheaper Sony system? Not throwing shade or anything, I would like to know for myself.
Does the addition of the S5 push the Canon G9 X out of the arsenal?
hi James, I am thinking to buy G9. Do you recommend it or I should wait for GHSX for photography? I am interested in photography, not video, and definitely for minimalist cameras. thank you.
How is the stabilisation in video compared to the G9?
About the same I'd say. Although didn't have chance to test a dual stabilisation set up :)
James Popsys that’s cool to know. That sensor doesn’t look like it has much room to move inside the mount.
It's pretty clear to me that new isn't always better, I've stuck with the G85 for a lot of professional work (even in low light) and still performs quite good. I thought about getting the G9, but I get the feeling that now with the S5 is really the time to make a change 🤔 shame about the lenses size/weight, that may be the only thing keeping me from jumping into it.
I will be very interested to hear about lenses, particularly how you feel about the weight of the L-mount glass.
Like you, I went to mft for the weight savings. And most of that weight is lenses.
Hi James, watching your videos always made me feel good. I am in love with Olympus M4/3 (had a FF Canon EOS5 before that), but am surrounded by FF fans. Not that I think there‘s a big difference in image quality, at least in my opinion. It believe that depends more on the photographer. But now I feel I am hitting a dead end. What a pity thinking about all my beautiful Olympus pro lenses. Very sad day for me. But thank you for all your great wok and humor. And I do understand that with FF, you are reaching a far greater audience.... cheers, Thomas
I still remember your video from a couple of years ago about ditching full frame. I thought at the time you’ll be back😉😉
All I kept thinking throughout the video James is that you've finally come to your senses. You were always going to move back up to full frame. Micro four thirds never had a chance. Not sure what took so long...we ve had small full frame mirorless cameras for years. Peak District, Wales weather and light...pretty much the same so not too sure about that argument. I think it's the "spend some money" bug.
haha, the old n+1! What with the pandemic I expect to be shooting local much more - that's where the light comes in to play really - although I didn't explain that did I...
Still love your videos though.
The lenses are nowhere near as small.
I'm going to Wales next week - I'll take a head torch...
Hi James, i’ve still got my tandem paragliding license (although i’m predominantly in Bassano del Grappa now) but i’m sure a little flight will help with the height thing :), deodorant application prior is preferred