Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.
i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.
@@Franciko69given how advanced Mexico was under his rule, they would’ve definitely had a chance since the civil war wouldn’t have existed and the Mexican people would be united against one common enemy
Seriously? Mexico would NEVER get that far into US territory. It was super weak financially and in the middle of a multi-sided civil war at the time. The Americans would have defeated the Mexicans almost right away.
Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer
@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.
@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes
To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.
Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.
As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"
Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^ If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist? Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅
Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies
@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :) Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to
Kinda of a cope , this was the height of fun culture where families owned a ton of weapons and in some cases were more armed then some militaries. That invasion would inflict a lot of casualties and eventually would get push out .
@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.
This scenario would only exist if A. Mexico didn't have a civil war and russia turned straight bolshevik in the first week, B. Mexico had a short civil war and russia had a short civil war, or C. mexico and bolsheviks literally got tripods
The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.
You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics
@@Italian_Mapper The Soviets JUST got out of a bloody civil war, they were tired, starving, and their military had used up many resources they no longer could regain. Sure, Germany could be considered stretched, but they could still put up a fight against the Soviets, and steamroll them. Germany would have used every man possible (due to a lack of a second front).
@@Italian_MapperNice, I actually clicked the video because of 'mexican kuruminha' As someone used to see her (or he, not going to explain this part) as the Brazilian waifu, it was kinda uncanny lol
< CLASSIFED > Name: Operation New France Goal: Secure Mexican Occupation untell the Rio Grande Unit Numbers: 306,000 US / 100,000-150,000 MX (estimate) Date: 9th October, 1918 thanks @italian_Mapper for the video!
So here’s what actually happened when the leader of Mexico was rudely awoken from his dream turned bad. Mexico got some territory with surprise, then Revolutionary exploded even more and the Mexican troops in the USA have supply issues do to the already existing revolutionaries in the north and then the USA starts mobilizing men and kicks Mexico out and by time USA troops cross into Mexico proper Mexico City has already been besieged if not taken by revolutionaries so the USA let’s the new government take over maybe taking some Northern Territory like Baja California and after that the Germans Keiser wakes up and sees the Mexico distraction was a complete failure, the army is close to Paris but taking it would take much longer then they have rights now because after Mexico capitulation the USA is coming already partially mobilized and that lead to Germany not being able to push and even being pushed back and after some time the kieser has to surrender or face a civil war themselves. In the end not much change except a Revolutionary Mexico and the USA is probably going to be less neutral in the peace talks meaning possible harsher treatment of the German empires and the ottomans and Bulgarians.
hello is me again oh and im back with more tips --- you did make teh font smaller gj --- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea --- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution --- siege and encirclement idea was good --- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good --- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last --- oh and add the cities all in all great video
Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that
The USSR would propably start pushing Poland And Lithuania in short period of time after end of the war, and either The Battle of Warsaw happens same as in reality, or communists will win. Then they have free way to advance in Germany and allies too. In reality, bolshevics were stopped at warsaw and their expansion was stopped. But in this reality... Who knows!
Guys remember to not take the army sizes as 100% historically accurate
Is this the thing you have been working on?
nah
@@Italian_Mapper ah
Do You know What the Song was during 'The Patriotic War' ?
Check description
Then… a young veteran called Adolfo Hernández who wanted to be a painter, started into mexican politics
WAIT A MINUTE
SALUDEN ADOLFO¡
I mean, Salvador Abrascal and the synarchists exist...
oh no 😳😳
wait hol up ☠️
Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.
W pfp
This video is just for jokes
What if Mexico was not in a civil war
🤓 Not supposed to be realistic
@@HimmyNeutron2714 you sure about that
i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.
They were still in the civil war.
@@senatorarmstrong4168 though it was for the most part resolved by then.
yea good piont
@@m.a.n4134 mostly small fighting scattered across the nation
Bro the spring offensive happened in 1918 tho
Yeah realistically, Mexico would just die in 3 weeks at most, due to internal conflict (civil war as it’s aka)
Yeah, Mexico would have more chance if Porfirio Diaz (Mexican dictator and general) was still around
@@Franciko69 Yes
@@Franciko69given how advanced Mexico was under his rule, they would’ve definitely had a chance since the civil war wouldn’t have existed and the Mexican people would be united against one common enemy
Seriously? Mexico would NEVER get that far into US territory. It was super weak financially and in the middle of a multi-sided civil war at the time. The Americans would have defeated the Mexicans almost right away.
bro you don't need to go super serious with a simple video though.
It's an alternate timeline.
@@TheBlueSupergiant sorry posting late but i know about that but it's just that you can't go overboard with things like this video just saying.
Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer
Nah I think this scenario was realistic, the us army at the time was weaker than Italy… ITALY!!!
@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.
@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes
And would have rapidly mobilized. Guerilla warfare was also likely. Size also does not equal strength.
@@orrorsaness5942They werent. USA was 5th or 3rd
Wtf México was so powerfull starting the war. Of course the new animation in 4:00 is good. Great video🫵!
Thanks
It's not that Mexico is very powerful, it's that the US army was very bad.
@@estradadavilafernandojavie8684 that’s not what the Mexicans thought in 1846-1848.
@@gloverfox9135 What have I written? my comment does not appear
It's because US forces were not in mexico-USA border at the time.
3:50
German Empire: Your Live Will End In 5 Seconds
Austria-Hungary Empire: I Don't Feel So Good! OOF! (POSSIBLY DIED)
4:03
Soviet Union: It's Time To End Kaiserreich
German Empire: OH CRAP!
4:08 bro putted ww2 again in a ww1 title video 😭😭
smirk
@@Italian_Mapperbruh
@@Italian_Mapper do next What if usa had collapse instead of the ussr history?
Video idea: What if Romania and Italy both joined at the outbreak of war for a
Like for central powers
Would make some sense as Italy was pet of the triple alliance and Romania had secret agreements with them
5:08 Great detail in the numbers.
You know what I started wanting MORE ww2 video's I get why you like them that much
The thumbnail is wild 💀
The fact that It's a Brazilian indigenous character that started as a symbol of the Brazilian Chan (BRchan) make this even funnier
Anime GIRLYS 🍑
@@Itailanboy78656 AYO 💀
@@Itailanboy78656 TF BRO💀💀💀
@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cdItalians discovered Kuruminha lmao
3:52
Austria: I Will Join You!
German Empire: Okay!
The thumbnail of Mexico waifu.. I want it 😤😤😤
wth bro... did you click for ANYTHING else???
She’s actually Brazilian, her name is “Kuruminha”
She is not mexican 💀💀
Yeah
@@claudiostudios9002 Thanks for the name G
It was perfect, until 4:04.
why do you think that the video after that time wasn´t good?
@@jirikkulisek7906because the red army would of collapsed easily, the Russians didn’t have the industry against the central powers
If the soviets couldn't take Poland in otl, how would they be able to take an emboldened post-war Germany?
still some austrian dude will blow everything
0:58
German Empire: I Gained Puppets Of The Eastern Empires Of Europe
RSFSR: thanks!
Best video of the month so far! A sequel would be fantastic
He made another WW2 video using poor Mexico, what a shame... But still an amazing work!
Also Central Powers were too soft whit Italy in this timeline after WW1
Blud didn't expect ww2 here
@@Italian_Mapper I didn't
To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.
I liked that you add hoi4 effects 😁😁😁
Probably the best alt. history map video I've seen in a while.
Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.
Me at 1923: GREECE JOIN THE FUCKING REEEEED
3:59
Hungary: Can I Help?
German Empire: Okay!
Reality... the US would now have about 65 states.
Thumbnail sauce?
Kuruminha I think
Where did you get the inspiration for adding Hoi4 sounds?
I dont know i just saw many videos using them
I have a big suggestion to make to you about ww1@@Italian_Mapper
Fun fact: everbody click video beauce thumnail
Let’s go another Video 👍👍👍
No way the USA just annexes the northern part of Baja California. They would've taken it all
Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich
👇
Perhaps
@@Italian_Mapper wait really
As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century
That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"
Yeah this super boosted mexico’s army
J’adore vos vidéo je pourrais les regarder toute la journée c’est vraiment bien fait !
Plz make a sequel to this it would be interesting if there were 3 alliances in the Cold War
honestly i think mexico would have never pushed that far, maybe it would have advanced slightly then stagnated
3:37 No territorial gift for Guatemala(((
This alternate history seems very interesting!
Taco Land is no more.
NOOOOO😭😭😭😭
Weird fact: i actually comed looking at that anime girl💀💀💀💀💀
bro
@@brubdub. yes
SIMP
Dude.
Excuse me?
Why there is some shy anime girl in the thumbnail? 🫵🤨📷
Yes My Waifu
Her name is Kuruminha, a native Brazilian and I have no idea why she is there
Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^
If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist?
Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅
Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies
@Italian_Mapper understandable. ^_^
Would you say Britain, Italy and Greece maintained Liberal Democratic governments as well?
Well they would have the government they had in real life so they are still monarchies but i'm not very informed to say which monarchy type
@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :)
Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to
i cannut bru sorry dawg i only make maps
video about mexico but having a brazilian native in thumbnail
Kinda of a cope , this was the height of fun culture where families owned a ton of weapons and in some cases were more armed then some militaries. That invasion would inflict a lot of casualties and eventually would get push out .
Guys, maybe mexico defeated the rebellions and cartels and stuff in the mexican civil war early and got to build up its army or smth
thats kinda what happand in france lots of fighting meant there was a lot of armed men that when united formed a very large army
Insane Mexican waifu in the thumbnail is just downright based
Brazilian Indigenous Mexican Waifu is the best thing I have ever seen in months
@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd
Mhmm.
Yes I love watching all anime girl
Her name is Kuruminha btw
@@claudiostudios9002good to know
Удивляет, что всё это произошло из-за Мексики
Never Ask His Discord Members for a Emoji
If you love your followers do a second part❤❤❤
Call me down bad, but the thumbnail ain’t bad tho 😏
tf??? i mean, you got me there, i was gonna call you down bad...
@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.
@@GunkShot111 i mean you have a point
@@GunkShot111sureee.... sureee...
When Mexico becomes the perfect diversion...yet Germany still loses.
6:10 song?
description
I dont think the soviets would be prepared
whos the girl in the thumbnail
It's Kumirinha, a young brazilian indigenous girl symbol of the BRchan, but she is no more just an character of BRchan and is an well known meme now
Is anyone going to talk about the anime character in the thumbnail? No? Just me?
Yes. Just you.
Kuruminha is her name
Nopal+machete= big armor
Boy what do you mean if when they did attack usa during ww1💀💀🥵🥵
This scenario would only exist if A. Mexico didn't have a civil war and russia turned straight bolshevik in the first week, B. Mexico had a short civil war and russia had a short civil war, or C. mexico and bolsheviks literally got tripods
is this a star reference??!?!!?
It cant be, or can it
bruh mexico fighting usa wouldnt make france capitulate and even less after only loosing paris
The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.
qual e la canzone usata nella parte della guerra patriottica?
guarda in descrizione c'è tutto
You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics
Texans with guns could hold some floating tacos off!
My son is learning so fast
4:04 what music?
It's in the description
But actually it would be very easy for Germany to fight the RFSR because of its military and technology
they aren’t even getting past the border
💀
I don’t think Italy would have fallen that fast
I’m even surprised that Mexico even made it that far. Even at the time Mexico was very weak in 1917
The Same Thing Happened As Ww1 In Our Universe 1914-1917 May And Kaiserreich 1917-1919
Ww2 soviet and Germany switched in this video😂
The soviets would've gotten crushed by the germans if they even dared to attack lmao
Wait, Didn't Britains have Tanks During WWI, How did the British tanks didn't stop the germans from causing france to fall?
they had the very first tanks ever so they were pretty useless since the first models were really heavy and slow and it wasn't much efficent
@@Italian_Mapper Yo I know this Kurunminha thumbnail
bro really said "Remember The Alamo"
Amrica said:it's not your time Lil buddy
Bro, how tf the soviets beated Germany?
Germany fighting with stretched supply lines, out of their fatherland, an unstable economy fighting many fronts
@@Italian_Mapper The Soviets JUST got out of a bloody civil war, they were tired, starving, and their military had used up many resources they no longer could regain. Sure, Germany could be considered stretched, but they could still put up a fight against the Soviets, and steamroll them. Germany would have used every man possible (due to a lack of a second front).
The use of Kuriminha (Brazilian Waifu) just makes this funny, 'cause this video is about mexico and US
finally someone recognized her
@@Italian_MapperNice, I actually clicked the video because of 'mexican kuruminha'
As someone used to see her (or he, not going to explain this part) as the Brazilian waifu, it was kinda uncanny lol
Los Angeles will not fall 💪
The thumbnail💀
What’s wrong?
@@slayride136 anime girl💀
@@Cameraplayz970 Yeah and?
@@slayride136 cringe
@@Cameraplayz970 Then why overusing skull emoji? Make no sense
how did you get the map
Nice vid
good video bro from mexico
En 1910 México realmente hubiera hecho mucho daño a usa
ok Texas would not just drop like a fly they would at least put up a fight
< CLASSIFED >
Name: Operation New France
Goal: Secure Mexican Occupation untell the Rio Grande
Unit Numbers: 306,000 US / 100,000-150,000 MX (estimate)
Date: 9th October, 1918
thanks @italian_Mapper for the video!
…why is Kuruminha in the thumbnail?
idk
I finnaly found the gravy, or sauce, idk
So here’s what actually happened when the leader of Mexico was rudely awoken from his dream turned bad. Mexico got some territory with surprise, then Revolutionary exploded even more and the Mexican troops in the USA have supply issues do to the already existing revolutionaries in the north and then the USA starts mobilizing men and kicks Mexico out and by time USA troops cross into Mexico proper Mexico City has already been besieged if not taken by revolutionaries so the USA let’s the new government take over maybe taking some Northern Territory like Baja California and after that the Germans Keiser wakes up and sees the Mexico distraction was a complete failure, the army is close to Paris but taking it would take much longer then they have rights now because after Mexico capitulation the USA is coming already partially mobilized and that lead to Germany not being able to push and even being pushed back and after some time the kieser has to surrender or face a civil war themselves. In the end not much change except a Revolutionary Mexico and the USA is probably going to be less neutral in the peace talks meaning possible harsher treatment of the German empires and the ottomans and Bulgarians.
hello is me again
oh and im back with more tips
--- you did make teh font smaller gj
--- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea
--- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution
--- siege and encirclement idea was good
--- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good
--- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last
--- oh and add the cities
all in all great video
Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that
bro the names of coutries
Idk which names
Can we get a sequel to this? I'm curious as to what happens next.
Everyone talkin bout the video but what the fuck is an anime girl doing on the thumbnail
Let me cook
@@Italian_Mapper we let you cook, now we want an answer
@@Italian_MapperI’m just curious why you used a Brazilian native for a video about Mexico
Part 2?
Perhaps but we tired of ww2
@@Italian_MapperTechnically it would be the 3rd, and it would also be very epic to see a 2nd part. I loved the video.
A frustrated painter named Diego Rivera returned from the front with resentment, he would enter politics and the rest is history. 🚬🗿
The title ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Also Bulgaria would want dobruja, and west to Macedonia
What happens after that? is ww3 happened or rest of century will remain peacefully
@italian mapper
The USSR would propably start pushing Poland And Lithuania in short period of time after end of the war, and either The Battle of Warsaw happens same as in reality, or communists will win. Then they have free way to advance in Germany and allies too. In reality, bolshevics were stopped at warsaw and their expansion was stopped. But in this reality... Who knows!