The Mystery of the Copiale Cipher
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2020
- The Copiale Cipher. A small, mysterious book from the 18th century with a lot of secrets. In this video, we'll take a look into how the code was solved by a team of academics and how it revealed a mysterious group known as the Oculists.
It has been great seeing some more eyes on this channel (not longer just me). I am always open for advice or suggestions in the comments, I am sure there's much I can learn from you all.
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Sources:
"Official" Website (full of resources):
cl.lingfil.uu.se/~bea/copiale/
Academic Paper
www.isi.edu/natural-language/...
Copiale Cypher wiki:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copiale...
New York Times - How Revolutionary Tools Cracked a 1700s Code:
www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/sc...
Computer scientist cracks mysterious 'Copiale Cipher'
www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...
Wired - They Cracked This 250-Year-Old Code, and Found a Secret Society Inside
www.wired.com/2012/11/ff-the-...
The Copiale Cipher: An Early German Masonic Ritual Unveiled
scottishrite.org/blog/about/m...
English Translation
cl.lingfil.uu.se/~bea/copiale...
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a lot of old cryptic ciphers usually turn out to be kinda boring, but one that describes the initiation into a secret society of 18th century German eye doctors is pretty cool.
"Eye doctors".....riiiiiigggghhhttt
@@notmychairnotmyproblem Ikr? I smell an unquestioned and all-too-convenient cover story, in light of, 1) the known history of how secret societies would morph into new, different ones (but continuing the same, underlying rites, occult knowledge, and traditions) when necessary for their survival, and 2) how in the 18th and early 19th centuries, secret societies were the exclusive domain of highly educated and affluent professionals (doctors of many kinds could be placed in this category) and society's elite, leisure class anyway.
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@@mugwump242 so what kind of secret society do you believe this manuscript to originate from?
The writer had no idea that it would take a magical computing machine 250 years in the future to crack the code.
Or had he?
@@chilimartini2076 we will never know
@@gama103 idk, give it another 250 years.
I was like number 666
The candidate answers Yes
i was terrified of the symbols being said, that deep voice freaks me out
omg, I fucking freaked out 😱
CREEPY AS HELL
It immediately sent shivers down my spine. Consider me fucked up.
Holy sht trueeee!!! especially the warped sound 😫
Watching his videos usually makes me calm but this video in particular...
I’m genuinely confused as to why your videos don’t receive more attention, the production quality is absolutely amazing
When the TH-cam RNG smiles upon him he'll probably shoot to 200k subs. This content is addictive and does super well on YT normally. The only thing I can think of is if the videos were slightly longer it would boost his watch time and improve some of the secret metrics.
@@branlc7 yea same i think he does it alone so he wouldnt be able to upload as much which is a bigger problem
Agreed.
He was in my recommended
Omg yesss. Like i got one of his videos in my recommended and now I’m hooked.
The “subscribe?”😂 too cute, your channel is addicting!! I love the variety of content you cover!!
I laughed out loud seeing that
I found that really really clever. Sad I already subscribed :(
*addictive
ikr! lol
That was great 😂
Year 3040: *Deciphering the phrase "Reject Modernity, Embrace Monké"*
Cool
Epic
Thanks doge
Wat da dawg doin
Hmm whose dog, what was the dog actually doing, why is it important, why was the dog famous. Truly a remarkable mystery.
"way du dey wan tu rijec us, but retun tu us?"
(this is my version of simplified english)
this guy has the perfect accent for every single word that he says, including german.
I agree. Even though I don't speak Hebrew, I thought he was pretty spot on with the Biblical Hebrew.
except ,,der"
True
his pronounciation of ch in licht surprised me especially, since it's a sound not present in english and not very common overall.
Well he did not say "Uppsala" perfect in Swedish, but I have heard much worse.
This will be a large channel if you stick to these kind of intellectual topics. Good luck!
Exactly, I loved this video due to the fact that I didn't know about it.
@@ChristianDoretti yea the channel banner was actually true
mUh InTeLlEcTuAl
Came here for the theological topic
Agreed!
From 2021
Whelp, the Zodiac Killer's cypher got cracked a few weeks or so ago.
I came here to say this LOL
How did i miss this, ill go right now to check it out
Yeah it was pretty cool
Where can I find more about it?
yeah, there is a video about it? If you can share something with us, it would be amazing
This was wonderful to watch, I love this kind of content so much. Your channel reminds me of a time much earlier in the 2000s, when people made things for the sake of making them, and curiosities were shared and exchanged online like stories round a campfire. This campfire story was particularly satisfying - few ever have so mysterious but concrete a conclusion.
Great editing and love your voice and cadence. Excellent work again!
Wow such a kind comment. Thank you so much :)
@@hochelaga The way you present this content, the production of the video, the narration... everything is just great!! In the very begining of the video I was compelled to suscribe to your channel without hesitation!! It's addictive! I'm so happy to finally find a channel like yours. I really appreciate the diversity of your content, you create videos with great quality. I enjoyed watching this video so much! I have to say you are awesome!
That's because the internet USED to be exclusively for geeks and nerds so we had a community which was intellectual and willing to help each other out, but since computers got cheaper that's when it got inundated with idiots.
@@JohnDoe-hx1wx Can your masterful IQ decipher this: *Stfu*
@@yusufthegreat1232 hahaha
As a member of a collegiate secret society, this text reads very much like the "secret" text of our organization although ours is written in plain English and copies have leaked all over the internet. So, when I saw the first page with the symbols yet to be clarified, these word associations naturally popped to my mind: star - secrets; circle with a dot -order or group; lip (eye) - member; triangle with lower dot - meeting or assembly; triangle with upper circle - officer. Feel free to share these proposed associations with anyone involved with further evaluation of the text. It's certainly a fascinating story on the decryption of the original text. Thanks! Danke Schön!!!
I think you have it correctly
It's pretty obvious from context also I got the lips as initiate, the triangle as ceremony, etc. No need to be in any society to decypher that.
The weird sound that represents the symbols starting at 6:08 is the word "Lacuna" (a blank space or a missing part - deriving from Latin) in reversed and lowered pitch :)
Really? Very interesting.
It's scary af tho
Why did he reverse and pitch it tho? Sound scary asf he did that on purpose💀
I'm glad I'm part of the early gang before this channel blows up
Same
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Ay me too
I wish I was.
Sameee
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Just found out about your channel at 3am in my recommendation and the First video that i watchrd was why bible Angels accurate are creepy.. And it got me really interested as your narration is also Really Good. Glad you popped out in my recommendations even though i don't remember clicking any biblical related videos.
4:15 AM- random angels suck me in and now the cipher, I'm hooked!
Same!
Exactly the same here!
2:50
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The subliminal messaging worked, I couldn't control myself as if my subconscious possessed me and before I knew it I was subscribed!
@@jhhwild Same, what a bastard.
I think the difference between the Copiale Cipher and the Zodiac Ciphers (one of which was solved recently, but the codebreaker admitted it was mostly luck) is that CC was MEANT to be deciphered. It was meant to be passed on from generation to generation, potentially hundreds of people read the text before the Oculists became mostly history. Each symbol or combinations of symbols had a direct equivalent in the German language.
The Zodiac Ciphers, on the other hand, were meant to cement an egomaniacal killer's legacy as a man of mystery. They were written for one man and one man only, only he would know what they said. Zodiac intentionally misspelled words to make it harder to decipher and made mistakes in the cipher too, but it's unclear if those were intentional obstacles or if he just wasn't as smart as he thought he was.
The same could be true for the Voynich Manuscript. While it might be an instructional handbook, in all likelihood we'll never know what it says because we never were supposed to.
Would you be able and willing to post that cipher here by chance?
Just finished reading “The Secret History of the World”, and this story fits right inside of it. So much going on under the surface, another world existing beside ours. Thanks for posting this.
is this book good? had it on my shelf for ages
@@ellenatheodotou7421 I enjoyed it, even though I didn't read it continuously; I'd read a bit, put it down, read some later, put it down, etc. But I did finish it and found myself thinking a lot about it's alternative to the story we all have heard since we were kids.
@@mightyluv thanks for the reply! will have to give it a go, deff up my street
This is fuel to my inspiration. I'm an illustrator and focus my art on symbology and ''old knowledge''.
Epic
@@krisdood777 i can certainly relate.
Welp.....I must sub. 👍
0:39 - 🙂 that was smooth
The garbled names when you were reading the translation really scared me! I was watching this at night 😅 Moreover, the ending with the surprise garbled voice made me jump!
That being said, wow. This topic and the way you presented it was amazing. Love your videos! 👍🏻
I'm watching this at night and high 😭. Scared the shit out of me.
The symbol voice was to me, a year later, was funny - then again, you watch enough analog horror online and simple things like this just roll off your shoulder (and you laugh and chuckle).
The video's still well made, I just found that bit funny.
SAME
The sounds of the symbols literally freaked me out. Especially at the end.
This video is amazing, the letter sounds like an ordinary man entering a masonic group.
Kubrick approved😂
That's what I was thinking as well
Yup it's a masonic initiation rite. Probably with slight variance from international standard for whatever local chapter they're.
Omg I rarely ever see a TH-camr who adds his sources!! Love it!
This channel and Lemmino are both as good as anything major studios are putting out. I adore the democratic nature of the internet allowing content creators that never would have been noticed in past centuries to bubble up to the surface and share their passions with us. Incredible time to be alive man
(9:43) One of the Zodiac's most cryptic coded letters (called the "340 cipher") was deciphered just a year ago (51 years after it was sent!) by an international team of three:
1. A Belgian computer programmer
2. An American computer programmer
3. An Australian mathematician
Some say that similar methods can be used to crack two more of Zodiac's coded letters.
According to what I have read about the deciphering process the group used, it sounds very similar to the deciphering process used by Professor Knight. He went through the document looking for repeating patterns, vowels, etc.
Honestly, the „Nacht, Licht, Macht“ was the best german pronounciation I ever heard in any TH-cam video.
So he must be a native speaker.
No one else can spell it that good.
@@pierredelamour8694 but in other videos he also used words in other languages in near perfect pronunciation, so I think he just really tries to get the pronunciation right before making his videos.
Also his pronounciation was really good, but not quite on a native level. There still was something slightly off
@@pierredelamour8694 yeah he is definitly not a german since he uses english accents on the german words. But he really tries to pronounce it good.
Edit: he just revealed he is from England so that. Makes sense.
I know a few freemasons irl. The Enlightenment-Era philosophy at the end of the book is rather normal for these societies. For Masons for example, it's "building oneself" or something, which is closely connected to the mystery rites they practise.
It shouldn't be that surprising this group had a section on their philosophy at the end of the book.
In before my dude blows up- this whole channel is what TH-cam excels at. Awesome video thanks for sharing, I thought I heard all the good cypher stories
Right... it's good to have something new
That voice distortion effect awakens some kind of primal fear inside me.
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0:38 2:50 I like how he put subscribe there 🤣
I don't know if this even relates to it, but I do have some thoughts. Take it as you will. Whenever I read the phrases ''the light hand'' and ''oculists'' my mind instantly went to magick and the occult. The light hand could be a reference to white magick, also known as the right hand path in some circles. I've also noticed that in occult circles, eye related imagery is heavily present. Whether it be the evil eye, or just symbolism for omnipotence and ''seeing all'', it does tend to show up. I'm going to read the English copy, and return to edit this if I have any new theories :)
edit: I have read the english translation, and only feel that this furthers my theory. Multiple references are made to the importance of the right hand and the right eye. In this case, the hands could represent a vessel- the human body, while the eye represents occult wisdom. There are also instructions on how to properly construct a meeting place, with specific details about what should face east or west in the room. Cardinal directions are heavily important in magick. Furthermore, reading this, it struck me how similar a lot of the writing and instructions were to that of The Golden Dawn. But it gets better- The ''big X'' symbol seems to represent a previous group, which was founded in England. The founder of the group that The Copiale originates from was said to be part of it, but broke off. The book is theorized to have been written in the 1730's-1740's, and The Freemason's were founded in England in 1717.
I don't know how I would piece any of this together, or what it would mean. Either way, this is genuinely intriguing.
What a refreshing channel! Something genuinely obscure with fresh commentary. Great work!
I stumbled across your channel today and I am absolutely hooked. Easily one of my favorite youtube channels now.
This was beautifully terrifying, but I got profound positive knowledge from this as well. Incredibly fascinating to see someone crack a code like that. Very advanced technology...
6:30 First symbol (triangle with dots): "ceremony", second symbol (triangle with umlaut): "highest rank", third symbol (lemon): "novice", fourth symbol (circle with dots): "order", fifth symbol (star): "secrets".
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Hmmmm?
No, they don't make sense. You don't even know how to spell fourth.
@@babyfefe999 y yo estoy completamente seguro de que tú serás igualmente fluente en mi idioma natal como yo lo soy en el tuyo aprendido, ¿a que sí? Por cierto, sí tiene sentido dentro de la simbología clasicista, cosa que tú no mencionas quizá por ignorancia.
Its kind of mind blowing when you learn about the origins of groups of people, like how eye surgeons were part of a weird secret cult society, or the developments of guilds from medieval times turning into modernized organizations. Super interesting stuff. Currently bingewatching the channel😅
I love how you bring lots of effort in researching the content of your video.
Cool topics, definitely well researched. Looking forward for more, cheers bud!
Am I the only one who sees the Stargate symbol for "Earth" in one of those letters ?
I just got one recommended video and damn, now I'm streaming this channel, this guy is underrated, you deserve more subs
Just discovered your channel (3/9/21) and love it! This was a beautifully made and informative video. I loved the ones about the angels in the OT too, as I'm aware that our modern day ideas of angels have been far too 'sanitised' over the centuries. It's amazing how much of the OT is reminiscent of what scholars know about Babylonian and other religions in the area.
So keep doing what you do, it *is* worthwhile!
A pat on the back, from Katherine in Kent 😉
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I sense a ton of potential from your channel
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your german pronounciation was really good, well done.
A fascinating video, thank you for creating it;) keep up the good work
This kinda reminded me of a series of unfortunate events. Great content! looking forward to binge watch your future vids :)
Perhaps Lemony Snickett was a member lol
I'm watching your videos for the first time and I've instantly subscribed. I hope this channel grows to have 500k subscribers or something. It's what it honestly deserves.
I love your channel!!! And I love how you put sources and credits to the efforts made by the researchers in the descriptionn!! Thank you!!
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I keep watching these videos about ancient books written an unknown languages or codes. The only thing that comes to mind from me is when my mom told me my handwriting is so bad an archaeologist wouldn't be able to transcribe my diary
Thank you. I cannot understand why your channel is not more widely known: excellent content!
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8:33 missed opportunity for "there is more to them than meets the EYE"
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SlightlySociable just did a stream where he shouted out your channel, I would've never found this video if not for him. Very underrated channel indeed.
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Greetings from Germany
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Your channel is One of the Best for interesting and obscure content, keep up the good work! Cheers from Hochelaga in Montréal! 😎
3:39 is likely the closest this channel will come to a "roll credits" moment
Wow, and not long after, the Zodiac cypher was solved! I'd love the voynich manuscript to be solved next, its always been so fascinating to me
Probable hoax
*( "IT-HAS" BEEN~SOLVED ! ) 👀📜👀 €¥£ ^
The Voynich Manuscript is most likely a meaningless hoax
@@M0rtanius yeah I know but that's a shame , even if its just a boring book on herbs it would be cool to understand
@@animatechap5176 It's cooler that someone made a pretty book and sold it like it was an ancient tome of lost secrets. They probably got hella paid.
This channel is so underrated! I was really lucky to find it
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ive been practicing cryptography and codecraft since i was 7, i specifically avoid learning about historical conventions and practices relating to it, to not fall into patterns, this demonstrates why nicely as the cypher was so easily broken because its similarity to so many before it.
it probably came from the neccesity if multiple people having to be able to read it.
if you truly want something hidden, the best way is the concept of the eternity code.
you must first create a language able to convey any concept you can think of that only you understand with as few similarities to your native language as you can manage, a good way to do this is have single words hold the meaning of whole sentances or concepts. then create a cypher and write in that language encoded. so theoretically even if the cypher is broken it will still appear as nonsence to anyone unfammiliar to the language, leading them to believe they made a mistake or that its hidden under a second cypher, both conclusions would be wrong of course leaving them stuck, assuring your secrets follow you to your grave.
Aside from MKultraing a sub from me, great video. the “Zs” symbol that was a Z with a cross and little bottom squiggle looks like the Zoso symbol from Jimmy Page on LedZep IV album.
Absolutely LOVE your presentation style!! Keep doing what you were meant to & inspire others to learn. Here is where you will truly discover just what YOU were created for!
Very VERY cool. Thank you for your content. I'm a songwriter and your youtube channel is fantastic for my creative drive. Enigmas, religious history and cryptic writings have always deeply interested me, so your videos continue to inspire my work. Thanks again.
8:13 "hey, that's the wrong eye!"
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The initiation on the first page sounds very close to initiation of becoming a Knight of Columbus in the catholic church. It's supposed to be kept secret, but it's very reminiscent of how their initiation ritual starts.
(Edit) The circular symbol might be representing Knight. The circle with the dot is God. The star is the ritual. The triangular symbol is the Grand(?) Knight.
It seemingly says the candidate who wishes to become a knight is led to the grand knight and asked a series of questions: if he wants to become a knight, if he submits to the will (rules) of God, and must keep the initiation ritual a secret. The part about volunteering himself could stem from their charity work.
So maybe this was the text of a mystical christian group, rosacrucian style.
Lololol. No. To all of it. That RCC do not care about the God of the bible but instead the god of the vatican.
The KoC and Jesuits are not doers of Gods will, and furthermore, would not occur in germany.
Furthermore, the pentagram, eye, pyramid with the light on top are all symbols from a secret society that currently rules the world. While there are connections and ties to the Jesuits and RCC with this contemporary international shadow government, they are not the ones running the show.
Look around you and see it everywhere. Movies, tv, their respective production companies, music videos and songs, t shirts, clothing, band logos, energy drinks, political candidates, corporate logos, sports team logos.
The synbols used in this very book are everywhere.
Why do you think that is? Because it was some long defunct society?
Ha.
Laughable.
They own you rn.
They probably released this cypher just to see if anyone would even notice.
@@darnellpistachio2991 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
@@cooperm4185 the best response
Bro you are popping up on TH-cam. You deserve it. Awesome work👍
I just started watching your channel today and man did I watch half your videos? Hell yeah I did. You do a great job❤
This reminds me of the series of unfortunate events
what
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you'd make great books
this video tickled a good part of my brain. thank you for creating this video and the rest of your content, we'll be patiently waiting for part 2 (:
I just found this channel via recommendations and I'm hooked!
Oh, the voynich got solved a few years ago, was a coded portuguese medical and recipe herbal notes
Cool video, ty :) The symbols left in the text after deciphering aren't names of people. They are another code, which can't be deciphered with logic/machine, but are memorized and passed down to apprentices. Different rites have different symbols, but the words behind are pretty much the same. Not gonna say more, I already feel the sting in my heart ;) Have a good day y'all :)
Yeah I was thinking something along those lines
This is awesome. Keep up the amazing work!
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Anyone else here at 2am scared for their lives ?
There's more to them than meets the *eye* huh *wink wink
Hey man awesome video, I love the quality!!
This is fascinating stuff. It's so cool you were involved with something like that even in a minor way. It's frustrating that our answers only gave us more questions, though. That man's software was next level.
Your German pronunciation was very really good 👀 especially when pronouncing -cht
Exactly was I dachte!
In case you haven't heard, the Zodiac cipher has finally been decoded. The Voynich Manuscript has been partially decoded and is believed to be an old dialect of Turkish.
The decoding of the Voynich manuscript you refer to has not been substantiated and most people reject the claims that the supposed decoding is correct.
But a later claim may in fact actually be more accurate (not the Turkish claim)... but it's not been widely accepted either. There still is no single decoding attempt widely accepted as an accurate translation/decoding of the original text as of yet.
The Zodiac Killer's cypher has been decoded though. None of what it says is particularly surprising, but the code itself is what's interesting, and how it was finally decoded.
I've learnt so much more on this channel about things that actually matter than I have ever in any school.
I normally watch these videos to fall asleep, and definitely got spooked at all the "awroo" noises standing in for proper nouns 😭