Silencer Test Which is the Quietest
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- Silencer Test
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thank you very much, saved me from great trouble and lots of expenses
Currently using TKO on my .22s. Very lite and effective. Price is right for me also. Always a good experience with service too. Great job on the video.
I've used they a&m silencers for years I've owned the twink and the marksman both amazing build quality and the customer service I had was outstanding thanks for sharing this video I've been saying for a long time about this result a.t.b Andrew
Bloody brilliant. Tops marks to the honesty 👏👏👏👏
Am just in the process of searching for a silencer and I've just took a screen shot of your data for later scrutiny thanks for the info and sharing I'll no doubt be visiting draper soon👍👍👍
Air gun suppressors and powder actuated rifle suppressors are vastly different and aren’t interchangeable . Well maybe the more expensive powder could go on an air rifle but not the other way around.
@@controlledchaos8851 agreed with the comment it’s going on a pcp air rifle so it doesn’t really matter. What matters more it’s effectiveness at suppressing noise..
You touched on something important which is "tone" A higher DB with a lower tone will sound quieter to our ears than a lower DB but with a higher tone/pitch.
nice question
Hi Andy I love ALL your reviews, and this one is no different! Great reviews!!! In this case you referred to "area" instead of "volume" a few times. But I am quite convinced that most people realised and therefore understood your review! Great review, I love your reviews!!!
Someone from TV needs to watch these. Your technique is brilliant.....Yes chaps I'm talking about presentation skills...You could make any subject interesting :)
Hello Andy, my goodness, I just need to say you are really, very very good (Clarkson level, to me) and a delight to watch. I am an air-gun owner but a very part-time hobbyist, though still love "shooting" in all its forms. Keep going, please, it's thoroughly enjoyable (and informative) watching.
JD
Great job from USA. Real world information. Thank you.
Thanks Andy great work as always 🎯
Great test. Thanks for the work you put in.
Learned somethings new. Again. Your channel is awesome. Please do keep up the fantastic work! Thanks so much.
Hi Andy. I just wanted to let you know you are the man. You are my go to for reviews, you are always here for us with a very wide variety of topics. I live in New England across the pond and I wanted to let you know you are the balls. You keep it up and tell mrs. A AR we say hello
GREAT WORK THANK YOU......
Best silencer I ever had was a SAK, light, strong and handsome. The metal internals mean its rimfire friendly too, whereas plastic internals burn and reduce the effect.
Burn, on an airgun?
Yeah that don't sound right
@@atvheads To be fair Stephen had moved on to talk about being 'rimfire friendly' hence powder burner and not conducive to using plastic components.
Who mushc many praise
A great video, thank you. I am actually looking at upping my airgun and was researching silencers!
Great job Andy. Enjoyed it.
What more can be said. Thanks 🙏 was very informative
That's a lot of useful information, good work! Now I have to go and do some price comparisons too and factor that into my decision.
Many thanks.
As always excellent and yes very useful
Very useful! Thanks!
Excellent! Very useful.
This video was useful and informative. Thank you.
Great Video and presentation, very useful, much information! Greetings from 🇦🇹!
I'm thinking of getting my first PCP rifle. I have found your channel really helpful. Thanks.
I'm looking for a silencer for my AA S200. So I watched your video twice. I now have a shortlist to work with. Many thanks and keep up the good work.
Great Informative video as always as i was looking to but a huggett or 2 but will now have a re-think
please do a part 2 with comparison on power and accuracy of the pellet at target
Great video!! I have the Weihrauch in .22 caliber and on my fx dreamline compact (which barks without a silencer) it works like a charm, the shots are very quiet!
Very good, thanks for that
Good review thanks .
*Thank you for the well presented and fair analysis of this batch of silencers, moderators or suppressors. I enjoyed the playful jab at those who are myopically addicted to the archaic and medieval imperial systems of measuring weight and size. Incidentally, I support the metric system ....every inch of the way. Frankly, any 'known' units of measure 'will do nicely' if we know how to convert to the more familiar units. The German Schritte {pace or step} in place of Meters or Yards.... is a rather unknown and definitely archaic one.... because each town, city, region, or village seems to have had their own Schritte {stide, step or "length of a man's pace"}, So, numerous place measure Schritte of differing length to others.... Therefore, with the very old antique German Army rifles having sights regulated or calibrated for bullet drop at distances measured in Schritte.... One is left to wonder... Which Schritte is it ? Or, What is 'this Schritte' ?*
great video thank you
Useful. Thanks.
Very good ! thank you :)
Hi Andy, saw this when you released it! Should you not consider perhaps making a part two or an update on silencers? would be much appreciated, if you could find the time. Testing the DonnyFL´s, Huma, Fox and all them others new brands that have been popping up during the two year period! Cheers!
Yes be good
I was just about to write the same. I miss the DonnyFL's as they're huge now.
@@wolw66 i guess donny just sponsoring alotof utubers.. making it seem like its huge.. most of them are the same anyways.
@@larsvegas1505 I've got the Hogan Decimeater and the DonnyFL Sumo. DonnyFL are very good, especially if FAC.
Yes very useful,just purchased a bsa ultra clx,and find like yourself iam saying it, silencers are a mind field as you have just shown,now iam going to watch your vlog on scopes thanks for all your reviews it is much appreciated thank you 👌
Got the A&M and I've found it better over the the other 3 well known branded ones i own. Internals are very well made and well engineered.
Finally, a Brit who acknowledges the superiority of the metric system.
Love the vids, high quality, spot on information. I've learned a lot from you and it helped me made some important choices on purchases
Any machines will tell you there are actually 3 metric systems plus decmilizing the inch.... which is the best???
Great review. It took a lot of your time for this review Great Job.
Great job will have to see if I can find the A&M.
that was awesome!
Andy, thanks for this, very interesting. It goes to show that complex internal baffle designs are mostly a gimmick, they may seem impressive but really don't have much effect compared with the overall volume of the silencer. The takeaway for me is; choose one which is well made and as large as is practical for the given application. Cheers
Thanks Andy, i personally own a A/M silencer i think they do a great job, and like you they are only about 25 mins drive away from where i am, thanks again for a great review, Cheers
I own a A&M twink does a very nice job but I recently put it on another gun with a light weight stock and with the weight it does affect the balance of the gun slightly, if they could make one the same size of the twink but lighter for the same price I’d buy it, but I’m not prepared to spend £75 around £45 £55 they would sell like hot cakes.
Very interesting. I use S.A.K. on my Kral and air arms own on my S510. Both are efficient.
Great review.
It was both interesting and informative.
And most importantly...
Entertaining!!!
Love the humor... Size DOES matter!! Hehehehe
Very Helpful! Thanks from a novice
Hi Andy, I agree with Geko as I am searching for the Holy Grail- my Weihrauch moderator and several very good artisan made alternatives are simply not quiet enough for my back garden rat control efforts. Now there are newer offerings available,so it would be useful to know how , for example, the latest Weihrauch XL compares with the A & M Marksman.
Nice video! Thanks 🙂
Please do more like that with the new scilencers 🙏🙏
I just want to say I’ve been trying different internal designs on my Benjamin Marauder 25cal shooting 60+ft lbs. I have a 1 1/4in by 7in long silencer on my high power tuned Benjamin Marauder which I realize is really small to try to tame the volume of air being expelled with each shot. My silencer was only $69 and came with a 3D printed monocore internal design but I never thought it did a very good job at 85db so I decided before just tossing it I would experiment with it. I built and tested several different internals for the suppressor and I found one design that out performed all others by a very good margin. I ended up with 3 rows of four 1/8in holes drilled thru the exterior of my silencer body with a 3/8in internal brass tube thru the center with a series of forward angled slots cut into opposite sides of the shoot thru brass tube but no slots in the last 2in to keep down any air reentering the tube and effecting the flight path of the pellet right before it leaves the silencer. I wrapped the brass tube with 3M scotch bright and stuffed it all inside the exterior body of the silencer and tightened everything up. This design was 11db quieter at 74db than the monocore design that is now used in most silencers these days. While monocore may work ok for some firearms or smaller PCP calibers or sub 12ft lb guns taking the sharp crack out of the shot it is not the quietest design for high power PCP rifles or maybe any PCP guns. My 60ft lb 25cal rifle is now as quiet as my 18ft lb 22cal and from where I started that is incredible. I’ve never made a video but if I did it would be of this modification because the results were outstanding compared to where I started. Don’t be afraid to modify your silencers internals, you may be very surprised with the results you get. Also if you try this design you may be able to get away without drilling the 1/8in holes in the exterior body of your silencer but I couldn’t, in my case it made so much of a difference I am changing all mine to this design. I think anyone who does this modification will stay with it because it is a vast improvement over the monocore design in a high power PCP. I’m in the process of changing every one of mine on my PCP rifles to the shoot thru brass tube design and plan to try this design on a larger diameter silencer for my Marauder, I think it could be made even quieter.
hello James,would you be able to take some pics of what you've done and send them to me please,would be very greatfull if you could,thank you,Reg.
Well done Andy! A timeless video. I was chuckling listening to all the legalese you added to the video. Ya the crazies who will argue anything or are so annal the need everything nailed down like you were running this through the USA's FDA. It timely for me as I just purchased a silencer for my new Hueben GK1. Its a loud beast that I couldn't shoot in my yard, and that was stressing me out since I live very suburban . You nailed it, my research kept going to bigger is better, yet a balance of what fits the best, looks is a factor too. Size is more of a factor for a pistol to me. The one I purchased is 165mm which makes it look like a KGB agent's pistol. I just could not do anything longer, or thicker.
I have mid 90s HOGAN silencers fitted to Rapid 7 and an Air Arms S300 , at 12 ftlb all you can hear is the hammer hitting the exhaust valve. The Rapid 7 at 30+ftlb using a 2 3inch barrel is staggeringly quiet, in my humble opinion these moderator's have never been bettered. ...thanks Mr HOGAN.
Andy, good job mate, I'll now be looking for an A&M then. Seriously looking.
A point to bear/bare ?? sp.. in mind which will I think enhance your results some what. The noise scale in dB is not a linear scale, so for instance a 10dB, if doubled is not 20dB.. Very confusing I know, but a doubling in sound is in fact a rise of 3dB.
So for 10dB, double the noise is 13dB, for 13dB, double the noise 16dB.
Looking at your quietist and loudest there's a bit more than 12dB difference. The noise has been doubled four times..!!
I think the guys at A&M will be jumping with joy. And so will I be once I've fitted one to my air rifle.. Thanks, Bob.
It was useful, but I'd really appreciate the same style review in a full power rifle as I live in a unregulated area. Thank you again for everything you do and will do in the future.
🥃cheers🍻
Professional video!
Hi Andy is their going to be a part 2 on accuracy, thanks great vid keep it comming
Andy,
you are ; "the Apostle of Airguns"
Thank you, partner.
Nice test Andy. Have a great weekend my friend. Regards Rune :)
Just subscribed, great review, and yes, it is useful!
Thanks
I say the same thing. You invent it you get to name it. And a flash suppressor is something different as well. Great video.
Great video
Thanks!
hi Andy I am 69 years old and I love your very informative videos on youtube. geoff
Hi Andy. Another thoughtful representation of what’s available to us, thanks very much.
The Range Right Silver doesn’t seem to be available though on their website, or do you know if it has changed name and gone to black
Great review as always.. I have the A&M twink silencer aswell as a Weihrauch and would agree that the A&M was the quieter of the two all be it with a larger size .. Has not affected my group sizes with either .. Thanks for a great and informative vid .. Keep up the good work
Very usefull.
I bought the A&M based on your comparison and I’ve got to say it’s the quietest silencer/suppressor/moderator I’ve ever used.
You were also right about it’s size - it’s a beast and I will only be using it on rifles equipped with a bipod as it’s just too much to control for freehand shots. That said, with a bipod it’s a really potent addition! Thanks for another great video.
Which one did you buy as im looking for one but solware have different ones
I like your reviews so much... And your perfect prononciation! (i am a french boy😁)
A very and much needed review. Remember the old saying.... a silencer by any other name would sound the same.
Great review. Do you think the weihrauch would quiet down a Hw30s 10 joules ? Or it won t do anything due to the springer action ?
the only change I'd like to see is what they sound like down range,say 25 and 50 yards.
i am new to shooting and always been told the hugget is the one to go for only if they make them big enough for me now thx was good that Gary
as always superb .... accurate well presented info... im getting myself up to speed with the design software packages and will play with my 3d printers to see what i can come up with. You always spur on conversation discussion....even good hearted banter. far better than many and damned enretaining.....all this whiles walking the youtube and facebook minefield. From me to you...Thanks!
Andy your shows are brilliant.dont worry about the haters and the trolls keep up the good work
Hi l enjoy your reviews a great deal .great site
Which A&M silencer is in the video as they do a few? Cheers
Enjoyed the video, tend to agree with in silencers larger works better generally. Made a few while in the Marine Corp and its what I generally found to be true...however I have to say we were only experimenting and were not too serious in how they looked just how they quietened the weapon.
Nice review, thank you. I use the Hogan on my .22 rat rifle, I don't think they know anything about what just hit them, and my neighbour hasn't a clue what's going on either. To add weight, not necessarily for the best, I have a sleeve of bicycle inner-tube condomed around the outside of the silencer which I think also detracts from any hint of resonance.
Yet another great video, thanks for sharing.
Which model A&M silencer was it please?
Yes, model please
Andy I have added a Nelix from A&M to my 12ft/lb Gamo Phox ... it’s silent other than mechanism twang! Look forward to your offering on latest products available 👍😃
Just curious as to the internals of each silencer? I've had some with baffles and some with a honeycomb type packing?
Andy - just found your site after Googling airgun silencers. Can I ask a newbie question ? Many seem to be screw fit (various thread sizes) but if you have an air rifle with no such thread on the barrel how do you fit a silencer/moderator ? Many thanks
I have the Hugget and a Donnyfl sumo !!!!! I think the sumo is way better shooting jsb King heavy mk2 at 900 fps
Yes that was a good video
If this is any use to folk , my new Atec wave moddy is much quieter than others I have , and that includes trying it on my .22 and .17 hmr rimfires . It’s relatively cheap too at around £40 . Just posting for info as a suggestion to others . Great informative video as usual Andy !
can you tell me which A&M silncer is it?
I have a Hogan Decimeater silencer on my SMK 79 on HPA. It really bangs naked - too loud for garden plinking/zeroing. The silencer is incredible. A bang to a quiet thud. Excellent kit, effective and not to big, check them out,
Would like to see the wolf silencer in here. Plus technology, baffles, curlers and felt or 3d printed.
Great video. I like millimeters in measuring also. I have 1 question. How do you figure out what thread fits your rifle?
Hi Andy, have you seen the new Weihrauch XL silencer?
A certain pedantic flair. Great seat mate on a long flight.
Nice data based comparison. I wonder if the results would vary using a 30 ft/lb .22. I know that all would be louder but I suspect the larger=quieter rule would hold.
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aah nuts i thought you would shoot it and review at the same time anyways great info
Excellent test Andy! Very logical and balanced. Some of my fellow shooters have expressed disappointment with Hugget items - Seems they were spot on! (I have a Swift 'Stumpy" on my Artemis PP700S-A Pistol, and it is a revelation!) Keep up the great work!
Thanks yo
Great review, thanks. I would suggest that how loud something sounds depends on how ears respond to frequencies - is it possible that how an animal hears the sound differs to the measuring device (which doesn't discriminate on frequencies)? Your comment about the weihrauch alludes to that as you said you thought it was quieter than it measured and trying some in the shops gave a different perspective to your findings.
Hello Andy. Very good and informative comparison. Please could you do a test on the newest Weihrauch XL and XL-K versus same oversized ones, like the Huma 40 etc. (Maybe with a few of the others thrown in)