Best Lunchbox Amp Head For Metal? Laney Ironheart 15 Vs Orange Dark Terror?

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  • @stevenjahn5956
    @stevenjahn5956 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your stuff is awesome, high quality content about metal equipment. I am glad to found this TH-cam channel. Cheers simon

  • @Jasperyeahhh
    @Jasperyeahhh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, there's some sick jams on here too man. Good job.

  • @Kerosenetrewthe
    @Kerosenetrewthe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both have nice flavors. The Laney maybe has more definition and punch. The Orange more fuzzy goodness. I see both as good fun.

  • @lawngnome412
    @lawngnome412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That tone at 12:25 with the Orange 😍😍😍😍 so thick and fuzzy. I love my dark terror.

  • @tonedriverss8629
    @tonedriverss8629 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both very cool amps to own . I have the Laney IRT15 Studio .. its awesome . Also a 1986 Laney AOR30 combo .. it kills ! Here in the mix , the Laney has a nice cut - through mid presence , and its thick and rich . The Orange is different , but interesting as well . But bang for the buck ... Laney is hard to beat . Been a Laney / Marshall user since the 80's . Nice tune there ! Sounds great . Cool demo of 2 great amps and a skilled musician .

  • @I_0..0_I
    @I_0..0_I 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hands down the laney

  • @tonyb.7158
    @tonyb.7158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Laney is a BEAST!

  • @smen407
    @smen407 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tone Simon !!

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Each sounds killer in its own right. Would pair really well in L- R mixes!

  • @tonalblasphemy6879
    @tonalblasphemy6879 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Laney had bit more tightness in the low end perhaps?

  • @bmfan
    @bmfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love my Dark Terror. Works fantastic for black/death metal, among other things. Personal favorite shape setting is about at the 10 o clock setting, has a great really heavy sound but also has some nice murk to it perfect for the genres.

    • @stevenslater4395
      @stevenslater4395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love mine at 1 O’clock with the gain at 2

    • @kataklysm6542
      @kataklysm6542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve got the micro terror and it’s eve weakest sounding amp for metal I’ve tried, even with a revvg3 and a tube screamer as options. I find myself using the amp as clean and using a metal zone with the tube screamer 😢

  • @jello-tarzan
    @jello-tarzan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job, thanks! I'm not.a.typical.metal head but am.interested in both these .amp.

  • @donniey.8891
    @donniey.8891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Laney seems to have more options but the Orange sounds good also.

  • @hannibalbarca4140
    @hannibalbarca4140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Starting at 8:00
    This is THE metal sound for me

  • @jjs8426
    @jjs8426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love lunchbox amps, I adore my 6505 mh!

  • @kellyjackson7889
    @kellyjackson7889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the volume on the orange needed to be turned up a bit

  • @jakebateman3088
    @jakebateman3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love a good bit of mono audio mate

  • @thrasheavyrhythm9779
    @thrasheavyrhythm9779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these little amps LOUD enough in a thrash band UN mic'ed, like in rehearsals? If they are I'm getting one!!

    • @AimiliosM
      @AimiliosM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you have a 4×12 cabinet, yes they are

  • @benharris5210
    @benharris5210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Laney for me. I love the crunch on the Orange, but i find the definition clearer and sharper on the Ironheart.

  • @rk28984
    @rk28984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think most people don't consider Laney amps because they are too affordable and so they think of them as subpar quality.
    I own a IRT15 and an AOR30 and both amps are great adn reliable, I compared them with a Dark Terror a friend has and the Orange doesn't even come close to sound as good to my ears.

    • @Piston1776
      @Piston1776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi I played a AOR 50 once and I liked the sound but didn't care for how the eq knobs reacted with the amp. How does the IRT compare to the AOR sound wise?

  • @davidmurray9193
    @davidmurray9193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid, gotta say I personally prefers the laney tones, currently waiting the arrival of a SLS 300w version🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @RotterStudios
    @RotterStudios 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    haha....lunchboxes at the beginning. i'm looking at the laney but what do you think about the laney 15 watt studio?

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rotter Studios I think I want one. They look amazing

  • @tocateur
    @tocateur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can any of these 2 be used in apartment? Or will I need lots of volume to get decent distorted sound even with a tubescreamer? The dark terror got the gain at quite low volume I saw near the end of vid. But can the IRT do that aswell? In other words... Which one would you pick if you lived in an apartment? :)

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Laney

    • @Frett3000
      @Frett3000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Laney sounds fantastic at TV volume.

  • @lordimpaler3899
    @lordimpaler3899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Question: If the Laney has a headphone output, does that mean that mean it has a "speaker defeat" feature that allows it to be disconnected from a cabinet without harming the amp?

    • @rohitbarc
      @rohitbarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No bro

    • @Maksuta-s
      @Maksuta-s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

    • @pontiacjo3162
      @pontiacjo3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quote from the manual: A cabinet need not be connected when using headphones, but avoidaccidental disconnection of the headphone lead whilst playing

  • @zerosoma33
    @zerosoma33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man that laney just growls

  • @donniey.8891
    @donniey.8891 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparison

  • @user-mf2wh2hv2l
    @user-mf2wh2hv2l 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a lesson Burzum - En Ring til å herske, please.

  • @MegaLout
    @MegaLout 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you cracked it at the with the two together...
    I preferred the Laney though.

  • @TheIsahn
    @TheIsahn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty nice songs congrats.

  • @stevebrule9343
    @stevebrule9343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dark terror sounds great. You ever tried Peavey 6505mh?

  • @daveyboy8907
    @daveyboy8907 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and killer riffage...

  • @figarofeegarrooooo2782
    @figarofeegarrooooo2782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definetly more in the laney, but I like the Orange a lot more

  • @erickmontalttino6112
    @erickmontalttino6112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    friend do you still own the ironheart 15w ?

  • @wulcannovr4689
    @wulcannovr4689 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one of these 2 would be more apartment friendly? (Low volume metal tone)

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Laney by far

    • @Frett3000
      @Frett3000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Laney sounds great at T.V. levels. Orange lunchboxes need more volume to sound good

    • @stevenslater4395
      @stevenslater4395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Frett3000 the dark terror can actually be played and sound good at any volume. I have one in my apartment and it sounds great at low volumes.

  • @gilquintos1927
    @gilquintos1927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would the laney work good for gigs or shows not concerts

  • @narrow_pepsi
    @narrow_pepsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Orange has limited EQ but honestly I think that's perfect for the whoever just wants to plug their amp in and just instantly know what it's gonna sound like, both sound great tho

  • @gmm5938
    @gmm5938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao hilarious and amazing equipment Simon i also use a black star amph its an ID CORE really useful

  • @theraditz
    @theraditz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the Laney

  • @grahamhoward3462
    @grahamhoward3462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow I think they both sound great. But something about that orange....Sounds sweet. 👍👍

  • @saflex1613
    @saflex1613 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    From what song is the riff at 4:16? Sounds really nice

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just something I was jamming

    • @saflex1613
      @saflex1613 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SimonSmithGuitar ah okay, sounded kinda familiar

    • @saflex1613
      @saflex1613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But could you give me tabs of the riff? :D I like it

  • @paulkielt9301
    @paulkielt9301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Every amp should have a Pre-Boost or a Pre-Gain stage built in. That's what many guitar players are looking for... am I wrong? To me, a good amp is an amp that does not need any overdrive in front of it!

    • @krogwaugh
      @krogwaugh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Laney has the right idea here. Of course their pre-boost could be improved upon, but its better than most other brands going without a boost.

    • @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989
      @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good amp can still be great with a drive into it, I run 4 drives into my amp and combine them in different ways for different colors!

    • @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989
      @graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually don't like built in pre-boosts much, I prefer the character of my pedals.

  • @yyjj4230
    @yyjj4230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:37 vs 7:52

  • @feugodelplancher
    @feugodelplancher 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video but you confuse me more than i am already hahaha
    I can grab orange for 290 and laney for 270...which one will have the best tone for thing like slipknot stone sour soil... BTW your video are really nice !

    • @eric44casey
      @eric44casey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look into Orange's signature Jim Root #4 Tiny Terror 15W Amp Head

  • @XoulCarlos
    @XoulCarlos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about Peavey 6505 MH ?

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not triedone. Good?

    • @Frett3000
      @Frett3000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tried the 6505mh side by side with a Laney IRT Studio at a local shop. The 6505mh was a nice amp, but the Laney blew it away. The 6505mh sounded fizzy by comparison, while the Laney growled. I ended up buying the Laney, and I'm really happy with it. I don't have any experience with the Dark Terror, so i can't speak to those.

  • @rocknroor
    @rocknroor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    krank krankenstien jr awesome lunch box amp

  • @awonderingoneil206
    @awonderingoneil206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Simple, Laney all the way.
    Designed and built in the good old industrial Midlands (Where I'm from 🤗).
    I'm surprised how rare it is to see a Laney about though even in England, out of 30+ guitarists I no only three own one, sad really, their awesome.

    • @awonderingoneil206
      @awonderingoneil206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rhizomio Never heard of em, are they recently new in the market?

  • @dekzan
    @dekzan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the 🍊 Dark Terror. Looks like a torture machine 🤘😠🤘

  • @turaly0n
    @turaly0n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'd take that Laney any day over the Orange.

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great amp!!

    • @daveyboy8907
      @daveyboy8907 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the orange and love it but wouldn't mind that laney too. Both sound great..

    • @NeilDjents
      @NeilDjents 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      egregion same

  • @guitaristus
    @guitaristus ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @MetalKillsRap2
    @MetalKillsRap2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the EVH 5150 III lbx 1 and 2 heads and I think those are best.

  • @jordanmayer5932
    @jordanmayer5932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try the dark terror with a fortin 33 hooked up to it. Fucking chugs like a sludgy tone train.

  • @DanielDavis730
    @DanielDavis730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U need to here lead tp see how an amp sounds

  • @seanmcgowan4423
    @seanmcgowan4423 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orange all the way!!

  • @DerEchteBold
    @DerEchteBold 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, on the run through the controls you omitted to crank the mids on the Ironheart!?
    Don't need that for Metal, eh ; )

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DerEchteBold Oh my god, I didn't even realise I'd done that!! Good spot.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really wasn't on purpose?
      Well... a totally subconscious mid-reluctance then I guess?!

    • @SimonSmithGuitar
      @SimonSmithGuitar  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      God knows what I was thinking!!!

  • @codexdeathmetal4954
    @codexdeathmetal4954 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You must try all the EQ knobs at 5 on the Ironheart

  • @MakGedubrak
    @MakGedubrak 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    love my irt15h. crank the volume up to noon, you will love the result. but first, change the EL84 to JJ..

  • @user-ps8mb2wh1t
    @user-ps8mb2wh1t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Laney Ironheart 15 more good in mix)

  • @BIGBADALEXIS
    @BIGBADALEXIS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    with my f@@@s neighbors laney is the way to go....

  • @pankajpaswan4
    @pankajpaswan4 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orange is good

  • @snooze0023
    @snooze0023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Laney wins hands down. Ive compared both only recently in a music shop and the orange was a bit of a one trick pony. the Laney can get a clean tone believe it or not and you can get nice blues o/d to rock crunch all the way up to high gain metal. And the pre boost kicks it into the stratosphere. Theres just more range and of course it looks awesome. The orange is ugly and generic and lacks a good mid range boost which is the preferred metal tone these days.

  • @rafa83fs
    @rafa83fs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Laney com muito mais recursos e não embaralha o som!

  • @Jasperyeahhh
    @Jasperyeahhh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOTIFICATION SQUAD.
    Also, it seems to me that the Dark Terror has superior tones when dialled correctly, but it also seems easier to dial in something proper wank. Laney seems to sound relatively decent pretty much everywhere EQ wise, but is just missing something, ya know?

    • @rk28984
      @rk28984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a nice boost pedal does the trick with the IRT15, most of the time I use a pedal to hammer the input and it makes this amp sound bigger.

  • @nick-dm3if
    @nick-dm3if 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orange doesnt give you much for those hefty prices, i like customization i would never buy an orange for the price of some of the heads you could have full setups

  • @runnningonempty
    @runnningonempty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So close,I would buy whichever is less expensive which is LANEY..Arent these all just rectifier copies anyways?..Why over pay for a Mesa anymore..especially when Laney cabs are the best value PERIOD..LANEY WINS!!!

  • @donniey.8891
    @donniey.8891 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laney

  • @LorraineSam
    @LorraineSam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If we're talking metal tones and general range of overdriven tonality, it's the Orange all the way.

  • @robchokehold
    @robchokehold 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both and I love both for their characters, so I'm just here to rain on the party. Because... comparing tube amps at ~10% of their power tube volume is a bit, well, unrepresentative. Especially with the Orange, everyone knows (by now) that they're designed to sound best or "most characteristic" at full volume, not at 10% where the distortion has to come purely from the preamp stage and will 10/10 times sound like ass. :/

  • @AlexanderXtcSlayin
    @AlexanderXtcSlayin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sure if you used an OD with the forever princess head it would chugg like the spawn of satan himself

  • @arkavagoswami3068
    @arkavagoswami3068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hotone heart attack only...

  • @joathescientist
    @joathescientist 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironheart blast the orange!

  • @aribalzar8259
    @aribalzar8259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    laney sounds better

  • @Sanek66776
    @Sanek66776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Оранж круче

  • @unclekeek
    @unclekeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laney sounds better

  • @SmokeWithMeInCT
    @SmokeWithMeInCT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laney sounds better but its also 300 dollsrs more

    • @VintageSG
      @VintageSG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What territory are you in, also, are you comparing prices of the IRT15 with the Dark Terror, or the IRT60?Locally, the IRT15 is approx £400 and the Dark Terror is approx £500. The Laney is £100/$120US cheaper here.
      edit: just found the Laney for £335. So, to me, the Laney sounds better, is more flexible and a lot cheaper.

    • @hannibalbarca4140
      @hannibalbarca4140 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh...the Laney 15 is $500 and the Dark Terror is $650

  • @dante316a
    @dante316a 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The labey got raped, dark terror sounds a lot better

  • @moribnd
    @moribnd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    bareknuckle pickups? why for this test? yuck.

    • @panic_chords
      @panic_chords 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Todd Crawford how come?