ProJared I'm just wondering are we not getting top ten best and worst games this year. I really don't care either way but I'm just wondering for this year.
Since this is your final D&D episode of the year, will you finally go back to your Final Fantasy series? I saw a bit of your FFIV stream, so I know you probably have something prepared.
My dad walked up behind me while i was watching this and he commented "Wait, is that the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoon?" And he named every single character and class of the top of his head
I wonder if the acrobat class was used because cleric/paladin/druid.monk etc was considered too risky since they are all based on/ or sound affiliated with worshipping deities and non-accepted religions?
@@fancyb.p.6122 This cartoon came out in the time of the "satanic panic" where lots of religious people thought devil worshipers where going to kidnap their babies and sacrifice them to satan and D&D was already on the bad end of it. Any magic healing not from baby Jesus would be considered satanic, so they steered clear of it likely due to the crazy people.
To be fair, half the party being totally worthless is pretty accurate to a lot of old D&D parties. Rolling your stats in order made for some lopsided groups of adventurers.
Depends on the DM and what you can convince him of, Xifihas. People were coming up with point-buy systems long before WotC did it, there's all sorts of customization along the lines of "reroll 1s," "reroll lowest die once," "reroll 1s and 2s," "roll four and drop the lowest," so on, so forth, and yes, whether you assigned them in order or at your behest was a matter of how merciful your DM was too. It's not as common with recent editions gaining popularity, but yeah, it still happens.
Heck I wish more people followed that rule, it would make many characters a lot more interesting. Nowadays gms are too nice and allow a dozen rerolls and let you put anything rolled in whatever stat, making pretty much every character made a god at their role, when a big part of d&d is supposed to be role playing around the hand you're dealt. That's part of what makes it fun and why I don't sweat the details and even put my own limits like this on rolling something up. It's a real wake up call to how out of hands things are getting when one of my friends rolls up something with his LOWEST stat being 10 (average human stat in second ed is 9's) and incessantly complains about rolling terribly.
+Orbus G Of course, as a person who's been bred by modern D&D, the inflation in stats also leaves alot of room for DMs to be all the more tricksters. Whenever in doubt, remember that no matter how well-prepared your party is, the DM is largely in-control. On a less facetious note, it really depends on the type of game you wanna play. I admire the fact that D&D is flexible enough for both to exist, but some campaigns are better than others for this. If you're running more dark-fantasy or "Reality meets fantasy" settings with the idea of lethality and "survival of the fittest" moments, then yes, I as a DM would empose the party with the AD&D "3d6. that's your lot in life" approach. However, D&D is also for doing something more silly. Sometimes you want to just make a party set-up and go on a fantastical odyssey through strange locations and encountering all sorts of magical mishaps. If you just want an excuse to play some D&D, then using just standard array or letting people point-buy it is fine. It's good for shorter campaigns most specifically.
i had no control over how came into this world why on earth would i be satisfied with the same approach to a game i'm supposed to pour dozens if not hundreds of hours into? if i'm to make a time commitment like that i'm going to play a character that i want to play and i'm not going to let myself be handicapped by random chance, i'm fine with most rolling conventions (though i prefer point buy myself) but rolling 3d6 in order is absolute horseshit and just results in unplayable messes of characters for most at the table or being forced into a character type you have no interest in playing. now maybe for a one-shot or something i could be convinced to roll-up a character like that when the expectation is the character ending up dead by the end of it but other than that i'm not going to resign myself to a useless character.
From what I've read and heard the writers of this show wanted to do a lot, but due to television guidelines at the time and interference from higher ups a lot of those plans got screwed up. They couldn't show direct physical violence or anyone getting seriously hurt (most of the time anyway) so they had to toy with indirect attacks and less violent looking energy attacks. Eric was actually supposed to be a flawed, interesting character but for some reason the higher ups wanted him constantly complaining. The writers still got away with a lot though and there are some really neat episodes in the series. Also I think on DVD or online somewhere, the original cast was brought back together to do a little 'audio play' of the finale episode using the script you mentioned near the end.
One interesting episode was the one where they straight out tried to murder the antagonist by setting Tiamat against him. Cartoon heroes trying to murder someone was simply not done. It really was a violent show, for the time.
@@JaelinBezel Thus far, the only D&D thing shown has been the dragons. For instance, if you look at the bit where VM is recounting their strangest/best kills, Vax's story about the character clearly meant to be Hotis, a Rakshasa taken out by Vox Machina in Vasselheim, was just an anthropomorphic tiger, lacking the backwards facing hands that denote a Rakshasa. The Whispered One, The Dawnfather, and the Everlight are all referred to as such rather than by Vecna, Pelor, or Sarenrae. This is, sadly, due to rights issues most likely.
Here in Brazil it was actually a big hit when it aired fully dubbed in the late 90s/starting the 2000s. Most kids that grew with it love it to this day, and still wish for a proper finale. A big part of the fanbase believes the DM is actually evil and I remember something about him being Venger's father
Hey Jared! Fun fact about the cartoon: in Brazil it is an absolute classic. It had reruns all through the 90's and is one of the most recognizable and influential cartoons of the time here. A real cult classic which inspired a lot of people to delve further into fantasy and D&D, including myself :)
Cartoons of this era were severely restricted as to how physical a confrontation could get. Throwing a punch was out of the question. What was allowed amounted to body throws, 'lasers' and indirect environmental attacks. You see it here, on He-Man & She-Ra etc, even 80s TMNT.
THACO stand for To Hit Armor Class 0. It was a value of reference to know how much you needed to score to hit your target with your super weapon of doom that just happened to be a cursed berserk sword : D. So if your THACO was 15 you needed to roll 16(bonus from all sources included) to hit an armor class of -1(yeah it is counter intuitive I know) etc... to a maximum of 20 for -5 AC in this instance. And if you were to try to hit higher then that you would need to roll a natural 20 on your d20 dice. This is the way armor class was treated in basic, expert, advanced and second edition of the game.
Juan D'Marco they redid the armor system in 3e after Wizard of the Cost bought it. Now more armor class is good instead of less. Not sure what else change.
So it has to be made in japan? I wish they could make like DC DVD animated movie with uniqe concept like this. Could be really cool and if a movie get´s really popular they should try a show aimed for teens and up.
I'd rather see one of Planescape. There's alot more creativity and mature themes to the setting. Just more potential than another knights and dragons series
Anyone else want this show to come back in some capacity? It could be like the Voltron Netflix show, where it basically tells an updated version of the original show but does a few things better, like putting in actual D&D abilities and locations in. And Diana could be a bard instead of a made up class, that way she would be more useful and you could still be scantily clad, because you know that's the only reason she's designed the way she is. Presto could be a competent wizard, but still have some kind of emotional issue that keeps him from just nuking everything. Erik could be kinda like Jaune from RWBY, he sucks at the start but gradually gets better as the show continues (He also has a sword to go with the shield) And sheila actually does thief shit like stealing and lock picking, but she justifies it by saying she's stealing from assholes. But then there's an episode where she has to steal from an innocent dude and she's not sure she can go through with it. Just some ideas.
Hank Human Male Ranger 7th AL: LG S: 14 D: 17 C: 15 I: 10 W: 15 Ch: 18 HP: 49 Feats: Dodge, Endurance, Manyshot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Track, Weapon Focus (Longbow) Equip: +3 Studded Leather, Energy Bow (+2 Composite Longbow that accommodates any strength, force arrows deal 2d6 and ignore miss chance for incorporeal, shed light as a torch, can make power shots with Hank taking a negative to attack and adding that number to damage), Amulet of Natural Armor +1, lesser bracers of archery, ring of protection +1, masterwork longsword, potion of cure light wounds, potion of resist cold 20, some normal gear Eric Male Human Fighter 7th AL: NG S: 18 D: 13 C: 14 I: 13 W: 10 Ch: 9 HP: 57 Feats: Combat Expertise, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Improved Shield Bash, Lightning Reflexes, Run, Weapon Focus (Shield), Weapon Specialization (Shield) Equip: +2 Elven Chain, Griffon Shield (+2 Bashing Heavy Steel Shield that can be wielded two handed, as an immediate action can create a 10ft diameter Otiluke's Resilient Sphere centered on Eric, any other creature in the area may make a Reflex save DC16 to be pushed into the nearest open square on a success, effect can be dismissed as a standard action or until the duration elapses. The sphere effect may be used for 5 rounds per day which need not be consecutive.), Bag of holding (type I), cloak of resistance +2, gauntlets of ogre power +2, potion of cure moderate wounds, some normal gear. Diana Human Female Monk 7th AL: LG S: 14 D: 17 C: 16 I: 13 W: 17 Ch: 13 HP: 56 Feats: Combat Reflexes, Improved Trip, Lightning Reflexes, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Quarterstaff), Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike) Equip: Javelin Staff (+2 ki strike quarterstaff when used in melee or +2 ki strike javelin when thrown, allows use of stunning fist in melee or at range, can extend to 20 feet or shrink to the size of a toothpick as a standard action but can not be used as a weapon in either form, +5 bonus to jump checks, Diana may make a free trip attack whenever the staff hits someone without provoking attacks of opportunity and if the attempt fails the opponent may not attempt to trip Diana), amulet of natural armor +1, bracers of armor +3, ring of protection +1, vest of escape, potion of cure serious wounds, some normal gear. Presto Human Male Wizard 7th AL: NG S: 11 D: 9 C: 16 I: 20 W: 15 Ch: 13 HP: 40 Feats: Combat Casting, Empower Spell, Lightning Reflexes, Magical Aptitude, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (Evocation) Equip: dagger, Hat of Many Spells (acts as a rod of wonder, Presto can reach into the hat and produce any spell component up to 1000 gp for any spell he casts (component lasts 1 round), use the hat to Empower a spell he is casting or cast a spell directly from his spellbook but these effects can be unpredictable - roll percentile dice: on 1 - 35 the spell is wasted but a rod of wonder effect occurs, 36 - 65 the spell takes effect but a rod of wonder effect occurs as well, 66 - 100 the spell takes effect as desired.), Amulet of Natural Armor +1, cloak of resistance +2, headband of intellect +2, ring of protection +1, spellbook, potion of aid, potion of cure serious wounds, potion of displacement, wand of magic missile (7th), some normal gear Sheila Human Female Rogue 7th AL: NG S: 10 D: 18 C: 17 I: 14 W: 13 Ch: 15 HP: 48 Feats: Skill Focus (Use Magic Device), Two Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Rapier) Equip: +2 Mithral Shirt, ring of protection +1, two masterwork rapiers, Cloak of Invisibility (Invisibility as the spell 5/day, greater invisibility 2/day for 1d4 rounds, Sheila needs a free hand to activate the cloak, if damaged while invisible Sheila becomes visible and the cloak stops functioning for 2d4 rounds), potion of cure moderate wounds, scroll of raise dead, scroll of sanctuary, wand of cure moderate wounds (25 charges), some normal gear Bobby Human Male Barbarian 7th AL: CG S: 19 D: 13 C: 18 I: 11 W: 8 Ch: 10 HP: 79 Feats: Cleave, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Greatclub) Equip: Thunder Club (+2 greatclub, grants +4 Strength, 3/day Bobby may strike the ground and cause a tremor in a 30 foot line those in the area must make a Reflex DC 20 or fall prone), +2 hide armor, amulet of natural armor +2, boots of the winterlands, potion of cure light wounds, potion of heroism, salve of slipperiness, sovereign glue, universal solvent, some normal gear Uni 3HD Young Unicorn (Small Magical Beast) AL: LG CR: 2 S: 10 D: 17 C: 21 I: 10 W: 16 Ch: 17 HP: 31 Feats: Alertness, Skill Focus (Survival) SA/SQ: Magic Circle against Evil 10 radius; immune to charm, compulsion, and poison; alicorn (Uni's horn is treated as +1 magic weapon); darkvision 60 feet; lowlight vision; scent; Spell like abilities: Cure light wounds 3/day, cure moderate wounds 1/day, neutralize poison (touch only DC 17) 1/day, greater teleport (within forest only) 1/day (caster Level 5th)
This was my jam when I was a kid. I used to watch it with my dad every Saturday morning. Also ProJared saying this was before his time makes me feel old. Glad you are covering it man, not many youtubers out there who cover stuff I grew up with, so I am glad you are. Also totally enjoying D&December :)
Smokeweed D Bear it was before my time too, but there was this channel here in Brazil that reran the series into the 2000s and I think the 2010s too. Nowadays they only have child programming on Sunday morning (which they are kinda hated for) and I don't know if they still rerun it.
I like fantasy sort of cartoons and must admit, the main draw for me was the opening and I found it pretty cool. Wanted to see how they'd possibly get home. Sad to see the show got cancelled before they could create the end of the story. =(
I remember watching this as a kid on reruns too,it was a weird show for me even then. Fun Fact,in Brazil they translated the show name as "Cavern of the Dragon" for some odd reason.
Even though me and my brother were born in 2002 and 2003 respectively, we grew up on this show! We have the boxset and everything about it is so comforting and nostalgic, from the characters' voices and music, to the sometimes rough animation. It'll always hold a special place in my heart 💜
Man I love this cartoon it was my jam when I was a kid my favorite episode is "The door at the heart of dawn" that badass destroyer of worlds used to scare the shit out of me also no wonder they are always getting bodied by Tiamat they don't have a cleric all they have is a warrior with no sword a sorcerer with perpetual confuse, pants thief, heartthrob ranger and an acrobat(....) also Bob and uni.
Well, I haven't played D&D, but as far as I know from all the RPGs I've played, thief is one of the worst classes when you're playing solo, unless your evasion is on a god level.
@@Burn_Angel It's not about playing solo, it's about the fact that a party thief will be used for recon or solo burglary, because usually he's the only one capable to to hide in shadows with competence, so it's the class with the highest probability of needing to separate from the party.
A couple of notes from someone who grew up with this show: There really weren't too many "Iconic characters" for D&D back when this aired. Them using Tiamat and Lolth was pretty much it. They did put characters from the toy line they released like Strongheart , Warduke, and Kelek the Back-robed Sorcereer (which you actually show while talking about this), but we were still 5 years from Dritz being introduced to the world in the Crystal Shard book. Also understand, this show was not only being aired during the 80's "no violence in cartoons" rules, but we had the whole "satanic panic" going on around the same time. They were under the gun quite a bit, and the fact the show came out as good as it was a testament to everyone who made it. But yes, even as a kid, I would have preferred it to be more "D&D" like.
I loved this as a kid and it inspired me to play D&D today, I used to rush home after school to watch this with my sisters and friends. I dont get your point to all this but gave you a thumbs up for effort.
I remember Erik as a pain in the ass but also as the only character with common sense, personality and a character arc that actually develops him unlike the rest of the party that never learned anything, Erik overcomes his fears and even does some self-sacrificing for the party on more than one occasion including if I remember correctly holding the bad guys giving the rest of the party a chance to return to the real world but in the end they decide not to leave him behind and lose their chance to return to home (But I may be mistaken and I'm to lazy to watch it all again, did that 4 years ago, not happening again until I have children to trick into playing D&D 7e on augmented and virtual reality with good old dad and his new bionic hip). And the Book of Erotic Fantasy is pretty vanilla, try reading F.A.T.A.L. that thing could traumatize even the Marquise of Sade, Anal Circumference Potential... the memories alone makes me shiver and roll myself tightly into a ball on the floor...
1 year late comment but F.A.T.A.L. is just comedically edgy. It's like someone took slam death metal and goregrind and made a tabletop game out of it. It is almost predictably juvenile.
I figured Jared would, but I think he was too deep into his D&D mindset to make the connection (although apparently this was animated by Toei, so there's a weird coincidence).
Record of Lodos War is actually based on DnD! Old school, but still. It's really good and I recommend it. You can take my word for it, I'm a guy on the internet!
This isn’t hyperbole, actually. According to some sources I’ve read, the characters and campaign were based off D&D (or an analogue of it) game that the creators played. If you haven’t watched the OVA, do so.
I've heard that most of the differences came from the show being based on an expansion of D&D2 that was incompatible with D&D3 and the producers deciding that they were "too far ahead to change course now".
To be fair, Hank's Energy Bow is pretty awesome of an magic item in 3.5e (from the Animated Series Handbook). Also, Book of Erotic Fantasy... Do look that up, the Metaphysical Spellshaper prestige class from that book is actually overpowered.
For real? That's awesome. I'm trying to recall an anime I saw BEFORE Record of Lodoss War, and I legit can't think of one. It was one of the few things in my local video store's 2-shelf anime section, and the only complete series...miniseries, whatever. Adesso e Fortuna still gives me chills.
I know you like to make fun of some of the features but "Lasers" were only allowed, not bullets or physical violence. Just look at Transformers, G.I. Joe and other cartoons of that era. As a ten year old D&D nerd in an era where we were called Satanists it was a pretty damn cool thing to see on Saturday morning cartoons. Which was the only time we got to see cartoons back then (for the most part)
First time I played D&D. DM was old and by this time he had gotten bored of adhering to the same rules, so he made some custom rule book where class was more of a character type given to whatever stats you had divided over your character and assumed you'd be knowledgeable enough to know to give yourself the most fitting class. My D&D knowledge was this cartoon. I was an acrobat. I had given myself the most amount of Dexterity points I could think of that was still within the rules. DM gave me a pass. Best class ever. Good times. PS Don't fight strong enemies when you're an acrobat.
Technically, only Legend of Zelda 2 counts as an RPG, if I remember correctly. Most Legend of Zelda games are labeled as action adventure. Legend of Zelda 2 is the only one, that I'm aware of, that has some kind of stat progression/leveling up system... Things that increase your health and mana in other Legend of Zelda games are more like power-ups than stat progression... If we were to count them as RPGs then that would mean games like Banjo-Kazooie are RPGs too, when they aren't. That said, this show also came out before Legend of Zelda, by about 3 years I think, so I'm not sure that even matters hugely... But yeah, it's not like the plot was hugely original then either. Ah well, no biggie ^_^;; Sorry, I got carried away.
My understanding was that the network and some people took issue with what they considered to be satanic referencing, and that's why the show was cancelled. Of course, who knows what the truth is, but it seems likely enough to be true.
Apparently, the biggest factor was that it was quite expensive to produce and ratings were dropping. I also don't think they pushed a toy line with this cartoon like how a lot of others did at the time.
Oh, they had a toy line, but not enough characters from the show were in it. None of the kids, not Venger, Tiamat was produced but not released. They did have the evil magic-user in the black and red cloak 8:40 and Warduke, evil fighter next to Venger 11:00 . I had a bunch of them, otyugh, paladin, titan, all lost over the years. (sigh)
Holy crap! This was actually really popular here in Brazil, however, here it's called "Dragon's Cave" so I had no clue that this is a D&D cartoon, thank you Jared.
You forgot to mention that said final script was eventually voice acted by the original cast as an audio drama. Hunt it down on TH-cam sometime. Also, the names of the classes makes me suspect that this series predated 2e, hence the weird class choices.
Honestly, I have to say Eric was my favorite character. He was the most flawed, and had the most growth potential in the bunch. I think if the show had continued they would've delved more into why he is the way he is, and let him develop into a true hero. They'd already let him save the party a couple of times, willingly even. And they touched on the fact that his father wasn't necessarily the nurturing type in one episode. And Presto's hat never gave him what he wanted, but as I recall more often than not it gave him what they needed.
In the last episode that was never filmed its Eric that saved the day, and got them finely home, the cartoon has since been aninated from the leaked scriped, and is now on youtube, they did a pritty good job.
So... Hear me out What if Genndy Tartakovsky made this show (Dude who made Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls, and many other amazing things) Now that would be pretty fucking hardcore.
There's probably an outtake of him throwing the last book in, going "three... two... one... and CUT! Oh my poor babies, I hope I didn't damage you!" as he hurriedly fishes them back out.
mathematics117 damn now i need to see a dnd church . "And then God said Wizards of the 2nd level will only be allowed to cast magic missile once per day !"
dt5101961Nelon I literally hid this exact set up. My party had a goblin rouge who never sneaked around, a half elf paladin who always ran away and never healed, and a gnome wizard who would never cast spells, only use his quarterstaff. I literally was the only one doing anything, AND I WAS A GOD DAMN WOOD ELF DRUID. There was also a drow sorcerer, and we basically carried the party.
@@supremeleaderseymour2658 Oh, so an average game then? Seems Legit. I was playing 3.5 as a HalfElf Ranger while we had a Dwarf Cleric who kept on abandoning the party to go drink, a Elf Wizard who had only Illusion, Transmutation and Divination Spells, a Human Fighter who was a complete coward, and a Halfling Druid who kept on talking to animals and spending her spell slots on useless shit. I was the only person who gave a shit and left the game after I identified a falling rock trap and let the party get killed by it. Thank you, Scroll containing Word of Recall.
Or Bigby's Magic Hand, which was banned for use in one of my games after one of my party members used it exclusively to flip off enemies, grope another party member, bar wenches, and an orc woman he was fighting, and try to slowly drive the mayor of a town crazy by moving things in his house while he wasn't home. Sufficed to say, that character did in fact end with the phrase "Oh, you are VERY dead."
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ProJared I'm just wondering are we not getting top ten best and worst games this year. I really don't care either way but I'm just wondering for this year.
It’s good to see you back, Jared!
Since this is your final D&D episode of the year, will you finally go back to your Final Fantasy series? I saw a bit of your FFIV stream, so I know you probably have something prepared.
Could not stop laughing at 7:22 when the party is still trying to figure out how Thac0 works. Best. Joke. Ever.
Sheila the Thief, who's power is to save the animators' time.
Apocryphal Shedinja how
She goes invisible! Animators love that super power, since they represent it by... Not drawing anything! :D
Apocryphal Shedinja
And plot. Her turning invisible and just fixing the problem saved them dozens of hours of writing believable plot.
And you forgot Sheila's Ultimate Skill...Saving the Studio money by not having to pay the animators to draw her as well.
Apocryphal Shedinja and don’t forget her awesome power to open the FBI up!7:07
My dad walked up behind me while i was watching this and he commented "Wait, is that the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoon?"
And he named every single character and class of the top of his head
Your dad sounds like a cool dude.
But can he reenact an episolde?
Did he remember Sheila's underwear?
Sadly not!
NNNNNNNNNNNNNYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!
I'm jealous.
I wonder if the acrobat class was used because cleric/paladin/druid.monk etc was considered too risky since they are all based on/ or sound affiliated with worshipping deities and non-accepted religions?
Why didn’t they just make them a “healer” no religion needed or heck even give Hank the ranger some healer-esque powers using herbs
@@fancyb.p.6122 This cartoon came out in the time of the "satanic panic" where lots of religious people thought devil worshipers where going to kidnap their babies and sacrifice them to satan and D&D was already on the bad end of it. Any magic healing not from baby Jesus would be considered satanic, so they steered clear of it likely due to the crazy people.
@@laurab7081 yeah I have "Mazes and Monsters" on DVD with Tom Hanks from that era of board games corrupt our youth to madness and murder,
@@laurab7081 dnd 80s "there is no demon summoning going on here."
Dnd 2010s "here is a whole UA on summoning demons"
Guess they were right.
Most likely. Even today, some people believe that stuff is sacrilegious even though it's just a show
To be fair, half the party being totally worthless is pretty accurate to a lot of old D&D parties. Rolling your stats in order made for some lopsided groups of adventurers.
Mike Hoth People actually followed that rule? I figured everyone rolled a set of stats and assigned them as they felt appropriate.
Depends on the DM and what you can convince him of, Xifihas. People were coming up with point-buy systems long before WotC did it, there's all sorts of customization along the lines of "reroll 1s," "reroll lowest die once," "reroll 1s and 2s," "roll four and drop the lowest," so on, so forth, and yes, whether you assigned them in order or at your behest was a matter of how merciful your DM was too. It's not as common with recent editions gaining popularity, but yeah, it still happens.
Heck I wish more people followed that rule, it would make many characters a lot more interesting.
Nowadays gms are too nice and allow a dozen rerolls and let you put anything rolled in whatever stat, making pretty much every character made a god at their role, when a big part of d&d is supposed to be role playing around the hand you're dealt.
That's part of what makes it fun and why I don't sweat the details and even put my own limits like this on rolling something up.
It's a real wake up call to how out of hands things are getting when one of my friends rolls up something with his LOWEST stat being 10 (average human stat in second ed is 9's) and incessantly complains about rolling terribly.
+Orbus G
Of course, as a person who's been bred by modern D&D, the inflation in stats also leaves alot of room for DMs to be all the more tricksters. Whenever in doubt, remember that no matter how well-prepared your party is, the DM is largely in-control.
On a less facetious note, it really depends on the type of game you wanna play. I admire the fact that D&D is flexible enough for both to exist, but some campaigns are better than others for this. If you're running more dark-fantasy or "Reality meets fantasy" settings with the idea of lethality and "survival of the fittest" moments, then yes, I as a DM would empose the party with the AD&D "3d6. that's your lot in life" approach.
However, D&D is also for doing something more silly. Sometimes you want to just make a party set-up and go on a fantastical odyssey through strange locations and encountering all sorts of magical mishaps. If you just want an excuse to play some D&D, then using just standard array or letting people point-buy it is fine. It's good for shorter campaigns most specifically.
i had no control over how came into this world why on earth would i be satisfied with the same approach to a game i'm supposed to pour dozens if not hundreds of hours into? if i'm to make a time commitment like that i'm going to play a character that i want to play and i'm not going to let myself be handicapped by random chance, i'm fine with most rolling conventions (though i prefer point buy myself) but rolling 3d6 in order is absolute horseshit and just results in unplayable messes of characters for most at the table or being forced into a character type you have no interest in playing.
now maybe for a one-shot or something i could be convinced to roll-up a character like that when the expectation is the character ending up dead by the end of it but other than that i'm not going to resign myself to a useless character.
From what I've read and heard the writers of this show wanted to do a lot, but due to television guidelines at the time and interference from higher ups a lot of those plans got screwed up. They couldn't show direct physical violence or anyone getting seriously hurt (most of the time anyway) so they had to toy with indirect attacks and less violent looking energy attacks. Eric was actually supposed to be a flawed, interesting character but for some reason the higher ups wanted him constantly complaining.
The writers still got away with a lot though and there are some really neat episodes in the series.
Also I think on DVD or online somewhere, the original cast was brought back together to do a little 'audio play' of the finale episode using the script you mentioned near the end.
One interesting episode was the one where they straight out tried to murder the antagonist by setting Tiamat against him. Cartoon heroes trying to murder someone was simply not done. It really was a violent show, for the time.
@@tomaO2
Murder? Oh no, no, no! That was... uh (rolls persuasion check)... *implied* murder at best and a simple conspiracy at worst.
Actually only Katie Leigh returned as Sheila and also voiced Bobby in the audio drama.
But the Legend of Vox Machina is appropriately gorey and that’s Dungeons and Dragons.
@@JaelinBezel Thus far, the only D&D thing shown has been the dragons. For instance, if you look at the bit where VM is recounting their strangest/best kills, Vax's story about the character clearly meant to be Hotis, a Rakshasa taken out by Vox Machina in Vasselheim, was just an anthropomorphic tiger, lacking the backwards facing hands that denote a Rakshasa. The Whispered One, The Dawnfather, and the Everlight are all referred to as such rather than by Vecna, Pelor, or Sarenrae. This is, sadly, due to rights issues most likely.
Here in Brazil it was actually a big hit when it aired fully dubbed in the late 90s/starting the 2000s. Most kids that grew with it love it to this day, and still wish for a proper finale. A big part of the fanbase believes the DM is actually evil and I remember something about him being Venger's father
SuperRitz44 seriously? That’s interesting
They did a radio play of the final episode that was included in a DVD set.
Just look up "Requiem radio play"
VAI BRAZILIAAAAAM
6:30 "The entire party used teamwork. I wonder what that's like?" Okay, that got a laugh out of me.
Hey Jared! Fun fact about the cartoon: in Brazil it is an absolute classic. It had reruns all through the 90's and is one of the most recognizable and influential cartoons of the time here. A real cult classic which inspired a lot of people to delve further into fantasy and D&D, including myself :)
OMFG , YOU ARE ALIVE MY LOVELY ROGUE
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and when the cartoon was showed D&D wasn't even published in brazil so most of the people watched it without context, and the dubbing also didn't help
It was a great cartoon here, too.
I didn't know there was a dnd cartoon
Wait, did we just see Jared's feet? Did he think we wouldn't notice? I noticed. You noticed.
To the wiki! (Yes there is a wiki for that.)
And so it begins.
Cartoons of this era were severely restricted as to how physical a confrontation could get. Throwing a punch was out of the question. What was allowed amounted to body throws, 'lasers' and indirect environmental attacks. You see it here, on He-Man & She-Ra etc, even 80s TMNT.
BTG514 I'm glad JohnK revived the more "animated" cartoons in the 90's with Ren & Stimpy tbh. Always found most of these to be uncanny
And yet an old lady boob, Diana butt abuse, and panty shots, some how made it in
Wasn't a punch or stab.
BTG514. Ah. The forgetful sometimes shamefully so restriction of that time.
@@blipboigilgamesh7865that’s the only thing i still am glad john k did
9:46
Jared says, not realizing I've already typed it into Google, hah
So... what is it?
Kyle Hart it was a 3rd edition supplement that added rules for sex n stuff.
a supplement trying to make DnD FATAL, dont look that up either.
Tancread of Galilee trust us, it is just more Tome of Madness then actual Source book.
You googled it just now, I learned of it from a bard.
Sheila was one of my earliest crushes. Pretty sure she's the influence behind why I often go Rogue.
My marathon of rewatching, liking, and commenting on every Jared video continues. Video 46
Oh my God. My dad ADORES this show. Says it was his favorite cartoon as a kid. I have to watch this!
Galva Tron try being in this comment section and having been born in 1981. Talk about feeling old LOL
Galva Tron If he was 10 years old when It originally aired he would be around 40 years old today, so not really that young.
"They're still trying to figure out how THAC0 works" HAHAHAHA
FaithlessIsHe when does he say that?
And what is THACO? I don't play D&D.
THACO stand for To Hit Armor Class 0.
It was a value of reference to know how much you needed to score to hit your target with your super weapon of doom that just happened to be a cursed berserk sword : D.
So if your THACO was 15 you needed to roll 16(bonus from all sources included) to hit an armor class of -1(yeah it is counter intuitive I know) etc... to a maximum of 20 for -5 AC in this instance. And if you were to try to hit higher then that you would need to roll a natural 20 on your d20 dice.
This is the way armor class was treated in basic, expert, advanced and second edition of the game.
Juan D'Marco they redid the armor system in 3e after Wizard of the Cost bought it. Now more armor class is good instead of less. Not sure what else change.
Dancorps13 Aryador thanks for explaining
A modern dnd cartoon could be so tight, like the new castlevania
So it has to be made in japan? I wish they could make like DC DVD animated movie with uniqe concept like this. Could be really cool and if a movie get´s really popular they should try a show aimed for teens and up.
I'd rather see one of Planescape. There's alot more creativity and mature themes to the setting. Just more potential than another knights and dragons series
Anyone else want this show to come back in some capacity? It could be like the Voltron Netflix show, where it basically tells an updated version of the original show but does a few things better, like putting in actual D&D abilities and locations in. And Diana could be a bard instead of a made up class, that way she would be more useful and you could still be scantily clad, because you know that's the only reason she's designed the way she is. Presto could be a competent wizard, but still have some kind of emotional issue that keeps him from just nuking everything. Erik could be kinda like Jaune from RWBY, he sucks at the start but gradually gets better as the show continues (He also has a sword to go with the shield) And sheila actually does thief shit like stealing and lock picking, but she justifies it by saying she's stealing from assholes. But then there's an episode where she has to steal from an innocent dude and she's not sure she can go through with it.
Just some ideas.
The acrobat is from Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 1ed Unearthed Arcana. Obscure, but a real class.
Too be fair that is exactly how Lolth looked back in 1980.
Hank Human Male Ranger 7th AL: LG
S: 14 D: 17 C: 15 I: 10 W: 15 Ch: 18 HP: 49
Feats: Dodge, Endurance, Manyshot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Track, Weapon Focus (Longbow)
Equip: +3 Studded Leather, Energy Bow (+2 Composite Longbow that accommodates any strength, force arrows deal 2d6 and ignore miss chance for incorporeal, shed light as a torch, can make power shots with Hank taking a negative to attack and adding that number to damage), Amulet of Natural Armor +1, lesser bracers of archery, ring of protection +1, masterwork longsword, potion of cure light wounds, potion of resist cold 20, some normal gear
Eric Male Human Fighter 7th AL: NG
S: 18 D: 13 C: 14 I: 13 W: 10 Ch: 9 HP: 57
Feats: Combat Expertise, Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Improved Shield Bash, Lightning Reflexes, Run, Weapon Focus (Shield), Weapon Specialization (Shield)
Equip: +2 Elven Chain, Griffon Shield (+2 Bashing Heavy Steel Shield that can be wielded two handed, as an immediate action can create a 10ft diameter Otiluke's Resilient Sphere centered on Eric, any other creature in the area may make a Reflex save DC16 to be pushed into the nearest open square on a success, effect can be dismissed as a standard action or until the duration elapses. The sphere effect may be used for 5 rounds per day which need not be consecutive.), Bag of holding (type I), cloak of resistance +2, gauntlets of ogre power +2, potion of cure moderate wounds, some normal gear.
Diana Human Female Monk 7th AL: LG
S: 14 D: 17 C: 16 I: 13 W: 17 Ch: 13 HP: 56
Feats: Combat Reflexes, Improved Trip, Lightning Reflexes, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Quarterstaff), Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike)
Equip: Javelin Staff (+2 ki strike quarterstaff when used in melee or +2 ki strike javelin when thrown, allows use of stunning fist in melee or at range, can extend to 20 feet or shrink to the size of a toothpick as a standard action but can not be used as a weapon in either form, +5 bonus to jump checks, Diana may make a free trip attack whenever the staff hits someone without provoking attacks of opportunity and if the attempt fails the opponent may not attempt to trip Diana), amulet of natural armor +1, bracers of armor +3, ring of protection +1, vest of escape, potion of cure serious wounds, some normal gear.
Presto Human Male Wizard 7th AL: NG
S: 11 D: 9 C: 16 I: 20 W: 15 Ch: 13 HP: 40
Feats: Combat Casting, Empower Spell, Lightning Reflexes, Magical Aptitude, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (Evocation)
Equip: dagger, Hat of Many Spells (acts as a rod of wonder, Presto can reach into the hat and produce any spell component up to 1000 gp for any spell he casts (component lasts 1 round), use the hat to Empower a spell he is casting or cast a spell directly from his spellbook but these effects can be unpredictable - roll percentile dice: on 1 - 35 the spell is wasted but a rod of wonder effect occurs, 36 - 65 the spell takes effect but a rod of wonder effect occurs as well, 66 - 100 the spell takes effect as desired.), Amulet of Natural Armor +1, cloak of resistance +2, headband of intellect +2, ring of protection +1, spellbook, potion of aid, potion of cure serious wounds, potion of displacement, wand of magic missile (7th), some normal gear
Sheila Human Female Rogue 7th AL: NG
S: 10 D: 18 C: 17 I: 14 W: 13 Ch: 15 HP: 48
Feats: Skill Focus (Use Magic Device), Two Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Rapier)
Equip: +2 Mithral Shirt, ring of protection +1, two masterwork rapiers, Cloak of Invisibility (Invisibility as the spell 5/day, greater invisibility 2/day for 1d4 rounds, Sheila needs a free hand to activate the cloak, if damaged while invisible Sheila becomes visible and the cloak stops functioning for 2d4 rounds), potion of cure moderate wounds, scroll of raise dead, scroll of sanctuary, wand of cure moderate wounds (25 charges), some normal gear
Bobby Human Male Barbarian 7th AL: CG
S: 19 D: 13 C: 18 I: 11 W: 8 Ch: 10 HP: 79
Feats: Cleave, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Greatclub)
Equip: Thunder Club (+2 greatclub, grants +4 Strength, 3/day Bobby may strike the ground and cause a tremor in a 30 foot line those in the area must make a Reflex DC 20 or fall prone), +2 hide armor, amulet of natural armor +2, boots of the winterlands, potion of cure light wounds, potion of heroism, salve of slipperiness, sovereign glue, universal solvent, some normal gear
Uni 3HD Young Unicorn (Small Magical Beast) AL: LG CR: 2
S: 10 D: 17 C: 21 I: 10 W: 16 Ch: 17 HP: 31
Feats: Alertness, Skill Focus (Survival)
SA/SQ: Magic Circle against Evil 10 radius; immune to charm, compulsion, and poison; alicorn (Uni's horn is treated as +1 magic weapon); darkvision 60 feet; lowlight vision; scent; Spell like abilities: Cure light wounds 3/day, cure moderate wounds 1/day, neutralize poison (touch only DC 17) 1/day, greater teleport (within forest only) 1/day (caster Level 5th)
Thank you. I haven't been able to find this set yet.
hey no prob, anything to assist a fellow gamer
This was my jam when I was a kid. I used to watch it with my dad every Saturday morning. Also ProJared saying this was before his time makes me feel old. Glad you are covering it man, not many youtubers out there who cover stuff I grew up with, so I am glad you are. Also totally enjoying D&December :)
Smokeweed D Bear this show was what got me into D&D! Don’t forget the action figures....well maybe you can.
Smokeweed D Bear it was before my time too, but there was this channel here in Brazil that reran the series into the 2000s and I think the 2010s too. Nowadays they only have child programming on Sunday morning (which they are kinda hated for) and I don't know if they still rerun it.
I like fantasy sort of cartoons and must admit, the main draw for me was the opening and I found it pretty cool. Wanted to see how they'd possibly get home. Sad to see the show got cancelled before they could create the end of the story. =(
They made a radio drama of the final episode's script. It offers a good ending to the whole thing.
and there's a comic book adaptation as well
theres now a fan-made episode of Requiem based on the finale script.
To be fair, this is how most campaigns go
I remember watching this as a kid on reruns too,it was a weird show for me even then.
Fun Fact,in Brazil they translated the show name as "Cavern of the Dragon" for some odd reason.
Also the DM was called Master of the Mages,again,for some odd reason.
E rolava o rumor de que a história toda se passava no inferno
Acho que a tradução certa seria "Dragon's Cave".
Well there isn't much of a direct translation, "Masmorras e Dragões" and "Mestre da Masmorra" sounds a bit weird.
Naraki Vlogs in french it was called "The dragon's wicked smile" or something along those lines
False allegations: SHWOOOMP
Jared: 30 AC
30 Air Conditioners
My boy Jared deserves some inspiration for that comeback
A miniskirt and Thigh high boots combo, but i never noticed that as a kid.
Just by looking at certain shots I can tell this was animated by a Japanese studio, the panty shot pretty much confirms it
Animated by Toei apparently, so it seems you are right.
Some character's faces were enough to say "hey, this looks a lot like anime"
Yep, the Cartoon was a collab between Marvel comics (handled the writing) and Toei (Animation along with TMS)
Ecchi
Arcademan09 Diana's fear was being too old so take that however you will
But I still don't think she'd be 18
It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit.
Even though me and my brother were born in 2002 and 2003 respectively, we grew up on this show! We have the boxset and everything about it is so comforting and nostalgic, from the characters' voices and music, to the sometimes rough animation.
It'll always hold a special place in my heart 💜
The Tiamat things killed me
Can you imagine THIS party going in the Tomb of horrors Series finale! Cause everyone dies near instantly
I can't be the only one rewatching all his videos right?🤷♂️
Seventh Hokage nope
I know I am
Am I the only one who literally cannot get enough of Jared’s intro music? It’s legit one of my favorite parts of every video.
7:06 upskirt shot of a 13 year old girl. Classy :/
Ghazghkull Thraka FBI OPEN UP
Ghazghkull Thraka More tame than Pokémon Gen 1.
What is this? An anime?
Omg I remember this show, ah back when Saturday morning cartoons were a thing. #FeelsOldMan
Eric: 'How many Dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb?... NONE! they can't REACH it! They're not TROLL enough!'
Dwarf players:
Sheila hentai when
Two days tops if i'm not lazy.
There's already tons, but I wouldn't say no to more!
Diana is best girl. Fight me
Never
I miss d&dcember :’(
Man I love this cartoon it was my jam when I was a kid my favorite episode is "The door at the heart of dawn" that badass destroyer of worlds used to scare the shit out of me also no wonder they are always getting bodied by Tiamat they don't have a cleric all they have is a warrior with no sword a sorcerer with perpetual confuse, pants thief, heartthrob ranger and an acrobat(....) also Bob and uni.
A thief who is afraid of being alone? That doesn't sound very D&D-like.
Actually, i think it's a really interesting concept for an character.
I'll give the show creators credit, they do have a good sense of irony.
im pretty sure i developed it myself.
the phobia not the show
Well, I haven't played D&D, but as far as I know from all the RPGs I've played, thief is one of the worst classes when you're playing solo, unless your evasion is on a god level.
@@Burn_Angel It's not about playing solo, it's about the fact that a party thief will be used for recon or solo burglary, because usually he's the only one capable to to hide in shadows with competence, so it's the class with the highest probability of needing to separate from the party.
*2:09* "I want to live here~" That legitimately got me XD
this cartoon needs a remake
because all the other cartoon remakes are so good...
They're only bad because they always remake the good shows instead of improving the bad ones.
As long as they kept shelia's underwear.
@@Mayahiime Thundercats 2011 was nice
Goblin Slayer could technically count as a D&D remake.
OH GOD, I LOOKED IT UP
In case anybody was wondering, the song playing in projareds intro is goodbye summer, hello winter by fantomek
After all what happened, does anyone else misses his content?
nope
Considering the fact the allegations hold up as well as a wall of wet newspaper, I do.
Ranger.
Warrior.
ACROBAT!
I see you are a Grump of culture as well...
Oh Danni and your stories!
A couple of notes from someone who grew up with this show: There really weren't too many "Iconic characters" for D&D back when this aired. Them using Tiamat and Lolth was pretty much it. They did put characters from the toy line they released like Strongheart , Warduke, and Kelek the Back-robed Sorcereer (which you actually show while talking about this), but we were still 5 years from Dritz being introduced to the world in the Crystal Shard book. Also understand, this show was not only being aired during the 80's "no violence in cartoons" rules, but we had the whole "satanic panic" going on around the same time. They were under the gun quite a bit, and the fact the show came out as good as it was a testament to everyone who made it. But yes, even as a kid, I would have preferred it to be more "D&D" like.
I recognized the art and characters from a JAB comic.
I know my life is sad.
Both are great
John Doe I actually learned of this. Show from the jab comic.
I loved this as a kid and it inspired me to play D&D today, I used to rush home after school to watch this with my sisters and friends. I dont get your point to all this but gave you a thumbs up for effort.
Know this has nothing to do with the video but. Do it my friends, I believe in you!
Handz 0n Trigger Let's be real, Jared carried them through the HC
True
You want to know what's funny, when this episode came out I got the very same DVD
I remember Erik as a pain in the ass but also as the only character with common sense, personality and a character arc that actually develops him unlike the rest of the party that never learned anything, Erik overcomes his fears and even does some self-sacrificing for the party on more than one occasion including if I remember correctly holding the bad guys giving the rest of the party a chance to return to the real world but in the end they decide not to leave him behind and lose their chance to return to home (But I may be mistaken and I'm to lazy to watch it all again, did that 4 years ago, not happening again until I have children to trick into playing D&D 7e on augmented and virtual reality with good old dad and his new bionic hip).
And the Book of Erotic Fantasy is pretty vanilla, try reading F.A.T.A.L. that thing could traumatize even the Marquise of Sade, Anal Circumference Potential... the memories alone makes me shiver and roll myself tightly into a ball on the floor...
You should listen to the radio drama of the unproduced final episode.
Eric flat out grows some balls and stands up to Hank.
Thanks, I watched right after seeing your comment (weeks ago) and it was GLORIOUS!!!
1 year late comment but F.A.T.A.L. is just comedically edgy. It's like someone took slam death metal and goregrind and made a tabletop game out of it. It is almost predictably juvenile.
Is no one going to point out that the Acrobat has a straight up POWER POLE?!?
I figured Jared would, but I think he was too deep into his D&D mindset to make the connection (although apparently this was animated by Toei, so there's a weird coincidence).
Does she get Ultra Instinct at any point?
“Look, it’s Tiamat the dragon!”
I actually fell out of my chair laughing.
I’m not a D&D guy but I always enjoy Jared’s videos on them. I’m a Blizzard pleb (WoW/Hearthstone) but his videos do make me want to try it out.
I'm naming my next parrot Jared
And to think, this cast of characters in this cartoon went on to become a cameo in D&D Honor Among Thieves.
i heard record of lodoos war is a good intrepetation of DnD
Record of Lodos War is actually based on DnD! Old school, but still. It's really good and I recommend it. You can take my word for it, I'm a guy on the internet!
This isn’t hyperbole, actually. According to some sources I’ve read, the characters and campaign were based off D&D (or an analogue of it) game that the creators played. If you haven’t watched the OVA, do so.
I've heard that most of the differences came from the show being based on an expansion of D&D2 that was incompatible with D&D3 and the producers deciding that they were "too far ahead to change course now".
It was one of my favorite cartoons back then
To be fair, Hank's Energy Bow is pretty awesome of an magic item in 3.5e (from the Animated Series Handbook).
Also, Book of Erotic Fantasy... Do look that up, the Metaphysical Spellshaper prestige class from that book is actually overpowered.
"How many Dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb?"
"What in the fuck is a Lightbulb?"
I like Record of Lodoss War, I feel like it's more Dungeons & Dragons-y than this show. Especially with the characters :3
That's because Record of Lodoss War was literally a retelling of the creators' D&D campaign.
For real? That's awesome. I'm trying to recall an anime I saw BEFORE Record of Lodoss War, and I legit can't think of one. It was one of the few things in my local video store's 2-shelf anime section, and the only complete series...miniseries, whatever.
Adesso e Fortuna still gives me chills.
And after the show/novels were a hit they turned it into its own tabletop rpg
too bad it suuuucks. Yeah even the ova series. After episode 1 the animation goes downhill.
Hyzaku Genji ...That explains so much...also why I want to watch it!
I know you like to make fun of some of the features but "Lasers" were only allowed, not bullets or physical violence. Just look at Transformers, G.I. Joe and other cartoons of that era. As a ten year old D&D nerd in an era where we were called Satanists it was a pretty damn cool thing to see on Saturday morning cartoons. Which was the only time we got to see cartoons back then (for the most part)
1:17-1:33 I had to pause the video just so i could laugh
First time I played D&D.
DM was old and by this time he had gotten bored of adhering to the same rules, so he made some custom rule book where class was more of a character type given to whatever stats you had divided over your character and assumed you'd be knowledgeable enough to know to give yourself the most fitting class. My D&D knowledge was this cartoon. I was an acrobat. I had given myself the most amount of Dexterity points I could think of that was still within the rules. DM gave me a pass. Best class ever. Good times.
PS Don't fight strong enemies when you're an acrobat.
Ain't no one wanna live in D&D. EVERYTHING WILL EAT, ENSLAVE AND/OR EXPERIMENT ON YOU!
Here in Brazil this show was HUGE, it had reruns throughout the 90's and it's part of every 90's kid memory. 😁
Let's give this man a boost in his moral!
One local supermarket when I was a kid was called Presto. Kinda loved going there :).
If Spoony wasn't crazy I'd love to hear his insight on this with a crossover
Does Spoony even make videos any more? Last I checked it had been months at least since he posted anything on his own website
weldonwin he very rarely uploads anything substantial, usually just streams sporadically and last video he made was a review of Last Jedi
Arcademan09 interesting
Such a shame. I miss the guy.
I forgot Spoony even existed
When the time you say don't look it up and you have the internet in front of you. Still love you Jared!
4:47 gee an epic rpg where the villian need to collect items to become powerful. I never heard that plot before. *shows Legend of Zelda*
Technically, only Legend of Zelda 2 counts as an RPG, if I remember correctly. Most Legend of Zelda games are labeled as action adventure.
Legend of Zelda 2 is the only one, that I'm aware of, that has some kind of stat progression/leveling up system... Things that increase your health and mana in other Legend of Zelda games are more like power-ups than stat progression... If we were to count them as RPGs then that would mean games like Banjo-Kazooie are RPGs too, when they aren't.
That said, this show also came out before Legend of Zelda, by about 3 years I think, so I'm not sure that even matters hugely... But yeah, it's not like the plot was hugely original then either.
Ah well, no biggie ^_^;; Sorry, I got carried away.
"Better than a lot of other video game cartoons..."
Well excuuuse me princess
My understanding was that the network and some people took issue with what they considered to be satanic referencing, and that's why the show was cancelled. Of course, who knows what the truth is, but it seems likely enough to be true.
Apparently, the biggest factor was that it was quite expensive to produce and ratings were dropping.
I also don't think they pushed a toy line with this cartoon like how a lot of others did at the time.
Oh, they had a toy line, but not enough characters from the show were in it. None of the kids, not Venger, Tiamat was produced but not released. They did have the evil magic-user in the black and red cloak 8:40 and Warduke, evil fighter next to Venger 11:00 . I had a bunch of them, otyugh, paladin, titan, all lost over the years. (sigh)
Uncle Silver Gaming
The show was mostly cancelled because, after 3 frickin' seasons, they hadn't gotten one step closer to going home.
I just started playing dnd and I really hope you live it up this DnDecember
Jared doesn't wear socks during these?
i'm glad i'm not the only one who had that thought
He's explicitly worn dress shoes in previous ones
Holy crap! This was actually really popular here in Brazil, however, here it's called "Dragon's Cave" so I had no clue that this is a D&D cartoon, thank you Jared.
You forgot to mention that said final script was eventually voice acted by the original cast as an audio drama. Hunt it down on TH-cam sometime. Also, the names of the classes makes me suspect that this series predated 2e, hence the weird class choices.
Only Katie Leigh came back to voice Shelia for the radio program. The other cast was done by other voice actors.
Jared "don't look that up"
Me "Too late"
Projared would be great at CinemaSins
Honestly, I have to say Eric was my favorite character. He was the most flawed, and had the most growth potential in the bunch. I think if the show had continued they would've delved more into why he is the way he is, and let him develop into a true hero.
They'd already let him save the party a couple of times, willingly even. And they touched on the fact that his father wasn't necessarily the nurturing type in one episode.
And Presto's hat never gave him what he wanted, but as I recall more often than not it gave him what they needed.
"The Book of Erotic Fantasies...
...Do not look that up."
Too late.
Faaaar, far too late.
This might be my favourite episode. Nearly every gag hits my funny bone.
"do not look that up" *opens google incognito*
That show was very deep and rich. Watched, saturday mornings, as it aired, at age 4.
Tiamat as a level 17 rogue is still scary
You seem to have forgotten dungeon master rule #1: Don't hate the game. Hate the player-character.
In the last episode that was never filmed its Eric that saved the day, and got them finely home, the cartoon has since been aninated from the leaked scriped, and is now on youtube, they did a pritty good job.
ProJared for TFS at the Table!
5:27 Dungeon Master: I don’t give The sensational six riddles to solve. I explain some stuff to them.
So...
Hear me out
What if Genndy Tartakovsky made this show (Dude who made Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls, and many other amazing things)
Now that would be pretty fucking hardcore.
I loved that cartoon as a kid!
The subs are returning!
This cartoon was REAAAAAALY popular in Brazil, it was called "Dragon's Cave".
I need more ProJared videos in my life.
PeanutButterGamer this comment is surprisingly low in the comment section
We all do Austin.
You and me both, dude. *sigh* Guess I'll watch it all from the top again...
PeanutButterGamer same
Same here
I like how gently Jared was throwing away his dnd books. Even for a comedy bit, he couldn't find it in him to purposely damage them
There's probably an outtake of him throwing the last book in, going "three... two... one... and CUT! Oh my poor babies, I hope I didn't damage you!" as he hurriedly fishes them back out.
Can't say I blame him, honestly. Those books are expensive.
I would do that too. they are the holy books, one does not simply toss them!
mathematics117 damn now i need to see a dnd church .
"And then God said Wizards of the 2nd level will only be allowed to cast magic missile once per day !"
One does not simply throw $45 books
Ms. master: aww what should we name our son?
Mr. Master: Oh! I know! *WE* *SHOULD* *NAME* *HIM* *DUNGEON*
that's the dad of the year right there
Bennett Hobbitt Maybe it’s all one word. Like Düngenmastûr or something
Intelligence 18
Dungeon Master, Son of Mr. Game Master and Ms. Lore Master (her maiden name is Keeper).
@@jonathansmith1281 underrated comment right here
Only half the party is any good? YOU MEAN ITS EXACTLY LIKE DND IRL!?
perfect comment
I don't know much about dnd so I don't get this joke
Oh, you know, the classic. A wizard doesn't know spells, A rogue doesn't steal, and A paladin that RUNS AWAY.
What a party.
dt5101961Nelon I literally hid this exact set up. My party had a goblin rouge who never sneaked around, a half elf paladin who always ran away and never healed, and a gnome wizard who would never cast spells, only use his quarterstaff. I literally was the only one doing anything, AND I WAS A GOD DAMN WOOD ELF DRUID. There was also a drow sorcerer, and we basically carried the party.
@@supremeleaderseymour2658 Oh, so an average game then? Seems Legit. I was playing 3.5 as a HalfElf Ranger while we had a Dwarf Cleric who kept on abandoning the party to go drink, a Elf Wizard who had only Illusion, Transmutation and Divination Spells, a Human Fighter who was a complete coward, and a Halfling Druid who kept on talking to animals and spending her spell slots on useless shit. I was the only person who gave a shit and left the game after I identified a falling rock trap and let the party get killed by it. Thank you, Scroll containing Word of Recall.
Too bad they didn't have the iconic STICKS TO SNAKES
Or logs to lizards.
Or enlarge animal.
Or Summon Akuma
Or Bigby's Magic Hand, which was banned for use in one of my games after one of my party members used it exclusively to flip off enemies, grope another party member, bar wenches, and an orc woman he was fighting, and try to slowly drive the mayor of a town crazy by moving things in his house while he wasn't home.
Sufficed to say, that character did in fact end with the phrase "Oh, you are VERY dead."
None of them were clerics.
Eric: How many dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb?
Townsfolk: The fuck is a lightbulb?
Guess Artificers weren't a thing yet.
Lmao 👍
nice one
I'm more amused at the fact that they don't know what a lightbulb is but they know the word "fuck".
@dorerd “FUCK” is ancient AF.