Hey just a heads up!- I noticed that you showed your credit card... you may want to blur that out- This is not a good thing to do, especially when you film in 4k.
I just learned from watching the creator of the deuces spade that the part where we tend to hold it works really well to start the hole, by sliding the spade down, in a circle pattern. Then the pointy end helps pull out the “plug” and dig deeper. So I just took off the duct tape on mine!
Brilliant review mate. Well organised, compact and totally livable. Judging by how you've put it all together, that there appears to be no reason, aside from the weather, which you or anyone else doesn't have a say in, that your hike shouldn't be a highly enjoyable experience. I hope it all went well for you. Looking forward to your trip debriefing
Seriously considering bailing on a fleece piece. I’m going to test some sun hoody pieces that could ride the line of being good in hot weather and effective enough as a rain buffer in cooler temps, with a synthetic jacket in the backpack as a last resort piece.
That's what works for me. Sun hoodie all day and put my rain jacket on if I need a little added warmth. I use a synthetic puffy as a last resort piece if the weather changes significantly. I also wear the puffy in camp and in the cold mornings before things heat up.
Really appreciate your showing the gear list, weights, and quantities...big help for someone just starting out. But your chips are probably smashed up after hitting them so many times. :) Thanks again for the detailed info.
Haha, thanks for watching! I did the slaps as a bit of a joke to some previous comments. The chips get smashed up regardless so I was just breaking them in!
Put GG-pad on top of Nemo for more even cushioning and less pokey-Nemo-spikes? Pro-tip: use blue-painter's tape on the trowel, it has better grip, doesn't ooze/leave sticky residue and weighs less.
Never thought to put the GG on top. I’ve never really noticed the Nemo-spikes but it could be next level comfort if I change it up lol. Blue painters tape? Is there a secondary use for that? Duct tape can fix almost anything.
@@juicehikes5436 - Painter's tape is designed to leave no residue, so is useful for temporary fixes and things like trowels. Tyvek tape is designed for huge Tyvek sheets and is tougher than it looks. DCF-tape adhesive bonds over 24hrs to hold really well in many applications. All three are much lighter than Duct-tape and carrying all three weighs less than Duct-tape. Besides leaving sticky goo on everything it touches, Duct tends to peel-up at the corners. It always leaves a mess. Carry the other three (as well as medical tapes) wrapped on McDonalds straw(s) cut to purpose for the lightest and most compact packaging.
Mine too! They better not discontinue them! I have one pair with over 1000 miles on them and luckily a second pair with around 350 miles so I've got some time but I'll definitely need another pair in the next year. Hopefully there's a V2 coming because the Evo's are much better than the standard Speedgoat 4's.
Could you post some closer shots of how your tarp set up? I typically use a tarp/bivy combo, and I need to replace the tarp. I already happen to have a zpacks bathtub floor, so your set up could be a nice option.
Hey Jonathan. I just released Part 1 of the CDT hike and I show the tarp set up several times in that video so it should give you a pretty good idea. th-cam.com/video/ubdNxHry5lE/w-d-xo.html
Good to know about covering the tips of your trekking poles when carrying-on your pack. You’ve never had a problem with this? I’m flying with my pack in September for the first time and I keep going back and forth between checking vs. carry-on because of my trekking poles. Enjoy the trip!
Technically, hiking poles are not allowed in your carry on. That doesn't mean you won't make it through if you have it collapsed but just know it is a risk. www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/hiking-poles
I have had issues with poles before. If you can pull the tips off you can always get through carry on security, but if not then I would check in. Such a pain in the ass though, can always buy tent stakes and knife at destination but I'm not buying another set of carbon poles every time I fly somewhere...
Good luck to you and Darwin on your trip! Like you kit, very nice! Have not seen that pack before. Like the olight mini too. They make a cerakote version i might buy. I am also carrying a 20 degree sleeping bag most of the year. You get that extra comfort and you just never know when the temps might drop. Better safe than sorry.! Also interested in trying out a pair of Hoka. They look super comfortable! Stay safe! Hike on!
Thanks! I typically carry on my bag with tent stakes and trekking pole and have never had an issue. I have heard of some TSA agents not letting trekking poles through on occasion but I have never personally experienced that.
How many times have you flown with trekking poles? When was the last time you have flown with poles? Headed to GCNP for R2R2R and poles and my tiny razor knife are the only issues. Also, what do you do about a knife?
Hey Kevin, I've flown probably 5 times (last time I flew was to Glacier in July 2021) with poles now with no issues. That being said, one of my friends just went backpacking in CO and had his poles taken by TSA trying to fly home so there's no guarantee. There are still a few TSA agents that will take your poles unfortunately. I'd say the knife is more of a risk, that will likely get taken since they are on the look out for things like that. I left my knife for the last trip. If you really need it you can send it to yourself at the local post office ahead of time.
I have flown with 2 black diamond distance carbon z poles wrapped in my sleep sack inside my carry on backpack numerous times within USA and Spain (Santiago where they make everyone check their poles) without ever having to check them. They disassemble to 14.5 inches, are carbon fiber, and I unscrew the carbide tips to a separate container. I think the pair weighs 8 ounces.
Thanks! Maybe around 3000? It usually takes me about 4 days or so before the hunger starts kicking in and I need to up the calories. Typically burn around 8000+ so after day 5 I up the calories pretty significantly.
Did you get rid of the zerk 40? Looking for a fastpack style pack for under $200 was between that or the new gossamer gear fast kumo. Any thoughts, experiences, gripes on those two or any other that would meet that crtieria?
I still have the Zerk but I haven't used it since I started using Nashville Packs. I did like the Zerk but the Nashville Cutaway is superior in every way IMO. I don't have any experience with the Fast Kumo. The Cutaway may put you a little over your budget but you'll get a fantastic pack! nashvillepack.com?sca_ref=1569447.WVFsTfnoO1
Juice... Do you remember if the body of your pack is the Dark Shadow or the Silver VX07 color? Also, are your water bottle pockets black grid/black or white grid/black? Being a small company, there are not a lot of examples out there to look at.
That's interesting. I've now flown three times in the last year (within the US) with a trekking pole and tent stakes and never even had them stop and look through my bag.
Hey you mentioned that you hang your food at night vs using a bear box. Is there a specific way that you hang it (distance off the ground and distance from branches or trunk)? Have you ever done a video demonstrating that?
Hey Zach, if there is a bear box at a site I will always use those for simplicity. If there isn't a bear box I'll hang using either the standard or PCT method (lots of videos on YT for that). Typically you want it at least 10 ft off the ground and as far away from the trunk of the tree as possible.
Keep walking! Closed Cell foam pads don't absorb water so just give it a shake when you get to camp and the water on the outside dries quickly. A few panels are damp from sweat typically but has never been an issue.
Wow, this is a great video, lots of really interesting gear I haven't seen before, thank you for sharing. Also, the little rubber stopper for the end of your trekking pole is called a ferrule, just in case you ever need to know 👍
Juice...how did you choose your torso length for your Cutaway? My torso measures out to about 18", but their website says in order to fit a 20" wide pad for the back (such as the Nemo Switchback) you have to get the size 20" torso pack. Is that what you went with or did you find that your pad fits the smaller torso sized packs? Thanks again.
The Ultra's never worked for me. Almost everyone I hike with has more foot problems than I do so I am all in on Hokas. Some day the rest of the hiker community will see the light.
@@juicehikes5436 I couldn't hike without them! I have to get the most plush ones. I told my podiatrist about them and he now wears them always and tells his clients about them too. Thanks for the videos and reply!
Nope! A little trick, bring the bottle in from your front side as you are squatting so you get the right angle and the water sprays away from the bottle.
I'm 6'1 and got the regular long. 950 fill is something like 10% more efficient than 850 down meaning you can get the same warmth with less down fill lowering the overall weight of the quilt. Just depends on if you are looking to save a few ounces.
that was very interesting, I learned new things, of course compared my gear :), one thing puzzled me though is 7.25 oz for your Enlightened Equipment Torrid Apex Jacket, I got excited about the weight but on their site with your specs, even the smaller size XS is a bit heavier than that...in my seize L it's 9.30oz, still looks like a great and pretty light jacket
EE has changed their fabrics since I purchased mine years ago. If you go with a 7D outer and inner fabric looks like you can get a size L down to 8.8 oz with the custom option. Thanks for watching!
Not once! The clothing I had was perfect for the conditions I saw and moving all day. If it were earlier or later in the year additional clothing would have been necessary.
@@juicehikes5436 thanks for the reply! And that makes sense. I hike in the Canadian Rockies where we get some super hot summers as well, perhaps I’ll bring a few less layers for my next trip.
Nice pack. Its like a kumo But stepped up!!! Pretty much what I have been thinking of. I love the pad on backside and not in the pack. Also those pockets on shoulder straps!!!
How has the 7d fabric worked out on your quilt? Have you had any down loss? I have it on the inside of my torrid as well but am hesitating to get it on a quilt. Enjoy the Bob!
Thanks Jon, the Bob was great! I posted the 2 trip videos over the last few weeks th-cam.com/video/ubdNxHry5lE/w-d-xo.html. The 7d has been great on the quilt, I have had maybe 2 feathers come out total which is better than any other quilt I've owned. I wouldn't hesitate to use their 7D again!
Yup! I have links for all my videos in the description but here are the ones for the sun hoodie. Outdoor Research Echo Sun Hoodie Amazon - amzn.to/33r31jE Outdoor Research - bit.ly/3qzv5v3
Nice kit! Not sure about the rock-sack as your toothbrush holder though!? Rocks will leave soil particles in the bag and many soil bacteria are not organisms you want to voluntarily introduce into your mouth or GI tract!
These have held up really well! Over 1000 miles now with zero holes in the upper and the cushioning is still good. The toe guard has pealed a little and the grips on the bottom have wore down quite a bit. Still some life left in them though!
Thanks Mats! The stuff sacks are kind of a hodge podge of different purchases over the years. My food bag is from Zpacks, the stuff sack I keep my tarp in is from a tarp I purchased from Hammock Gear, my ditty bag is the stuff sack that the Pocket Tarp from Zpacks came in originally, and rock bag came with the food bag when I ordered it from Zpacks. Really everything besides the food/rock bag were just stuff sacks that came with other things I have acquired over the years but now serve a different purpose now. Hope that helps!
Great video! Thank you for sharing your gear and insights. A couple questions: Looks like you switched out your ThermaRest Uber lite pad - Was that a trip specific decision? Also, you switched out your Patagonia shell for the Enlightened Equipment jacket - Sounds like you really enjoy the EE jacket over the Patagonia. Is this correct? Thanks again! I’m sure Montana will be amazing.
Thanks for tuning in! I switched out sleeping pads just as a personal preference of noise. I toss and turn and the material the Thermarest is made of isn't quiet (for me). The Nemo Switchback is quiet in comparison which is the main reason I switched. The Patagonia R1 vs the EE Torrid Apex are completely different animals. The Patagonia is more of an active layer for wearing in cooler temps on trail. The EE jacket is more of an in camp puffy. When I hiked the Colorado trail the focus was much more on layers that work while hiking since the only time I spent in camp was sleeping. For this trip I'll be putting in pretty big miles but will still have time to relax in camp which is why I'm bringing the EE jacket. So really it comes down to what type of layer you need. If you are crushing miles and need layers that you can throw on as the conditions change go R1. If you will have time in camp and want to be warm and comfortable go EE.
How do you attach the SS Nano to the Pocket tarp. The tarp peaks in the center and the Nano peaks to one side. Did you find a way to make them not touch? Or do you just live with it?
The peak of the nano lines up pretty well with the pocket tarp. There is a hook that attatches to a loop at the peak of the tarp then I added a patch with a loop by my feet to pull the netting further away to provide more space. The nano just slopes more towards your feet which is where you don't need a ton of extra room.
Mind disclosing which size of Senchi Designs Wren hoodie fits you? I'm the same height and weight as you (6'1" 173lb), and I'd love to know which size works out for you
@@juicehikes5436 Thanks, that's good to know. I have an MLD Prophet which I tried to do an exterior back panel with 6 panels of Z-Rest and it didn't work.
Hey David, it has on occasion but it's usually not an issue. I set my trekking pole to 125 cm which is a little higher than Zpacks recommends which gives me a little more room. If you move a lot in the night or are pitched on a slope it's possible to wake up at either end of the tarp and your quilt is touching the walls. Pretty standard for pretty much any shelter.
Closed cell foam pads don't retain any water. If they are wet on the outside due to rain just give them a shake when you get to camp and they are good to go.
Bro u do the same thing as me with those jalepeno chips. I always take a bag of Great Value walmart jalepeno chips haha. Never thought anyone else did that.
@@juicehikes5436 most sobos hit Colorado in September or October, you definitely need extra clothes and warmer sleeping bag/pad. I stayed at Elwood pass overnight. it was under 10 degree for sure. you may take look anyway halfway survey for CDT hiker. Most thru-hiker had similar experience.
Yeah, it's possible to need to change your gear depending on the trail and time of year you will be hiking. 10 degrees would definitely be pushing this system but also 10 degrees is pretty unseasonable cold for Colorado in September/October. I hiked the Colorado Trail last year in August and brought less warm gear than in this kit and was more than fine. My buddy Darwin hiked the whole CDT this year and stayed with the same 20 degree bag and similar clothing setup to me and didn't have any issues with being cold. It's always a roll of the dice but good to re-evaluate like you said if you are expecting colder temps later into your hike.
They are different but the Colorado section of the CDT covers about 235 miles of the Colorado Trail so there are a lot of similarities. It really just depends on the time of year you are hiking it. Darwin started on July 1, so not too much before you.
Nope, and nope. I just haven't found either necessary especially in summer. If this trip were later in the fall I would probably consider bringing a light fleece.
Great video. Some feedback: You keep slapping your hand on your leg and everything, after you share your expertise on them. Each time you do it, it’s like you’re saying ‘I don’t know.’, but you really do!
Haha, I did the pack slapping as a joke. In a previous video I did it without realizing so I did this for all the people that commented on the last one. Future videos won't contain the slaps lol.
Love the kit! One comment because it has become a pet peeve of mine as a medical doctor. Imodium (loperamide) will prolong an infectious diarrheal illness and can lead to a life threatening illness called toxic megacolon. Don’t risk taking Imodium. In my opinion it should not be an over the counter medication. It should be prescription only. I see a handful of patients every month that make themselves worse by taking Imodium. Thanks again for the great review.
Thanks for the heads up Richard! I've only taken it one time when I had Montezuma's Revenge after accidentally consuming contaminated water in Mexico. I really just bring it as a last resort in case I pick up something nasty and need something to give me some time to get off trail.
Haha, nice timing Craig. I literally just texted Darwin to see if he can pick me up a can. Due to recent events and the remoteness of The Bob it's a good call.
Thanks for being you and making these videos. I've adopted some of your gear choices and haven't looked back. I also jumped on an offer from the guys over at Nashville Pack, who offered to make me a Cutaway with a 6L expansion mod (current test name is Cutaway Overdrive) after a detailed email conversation with Bedhead about needing some more space - their customer service really is out of this world. Regarding your trekking pole choice, is there's a reason you choose to go with the Leki Micro Vario pole over some of the other lighter options available on the market? Lastly, don't think too hard on the people that try to put you down in the comments, you're a really likable dude but unfortunately it's impossible to please everybody.
Thanks for the kind words Fredrik, I appreciate you watching my content. I'm also glad to hear that you've enjoyed some of the gear I use and also the great customer service you've experienced with Nashville Packs. I've experience the same with those guys! In regards to my trekking pole I've never really seen the value of going super lightweight with poles. I've never noticed the weight or felt held back from using a non-ultralight pole. I would rather have something bomb proof because my pole takes quite a bit of abuse. Aluminum is great because if you really take a spill and bend it you can typically just bend it right back. I've seen way too many broken poles and unhappy hikers by going with lighter options.
It does work fine with a little room to spare. I've actually got the new Altaplex Tarp on order for 2022 as it has a little more room for just 1.5 oz more. zpacks.com/products/altaplex-tarp-w-doors?aff=60. The Hexamid has been great but a little more room is always nice.
@@kasianfranmitja5298 yeah I get it, the Altaplex tarp is $100 more. The Hexamid is fine for someone 6'1. I pitch it with my pole at 125 CM and I think Zpacks recommended 120 CM. This gives you a little more room and clearance in the Hexamid.
Haha, it's not too bad. When I'm not doing 25+ mile days I like to eat well, just didn't happen on this trip. Just got back from Nepal with Darwin, video dropping Thursday!
I dunno man, you're carrying that camera equipment in your pack. then how in the hell is not in your baseweight? It is a luxury item and you should count it.
The camera is my phone which was included in the base weight. The only things that were not included were the microphone (1.22 oz) that plugs into the phone and the small tripod (2.75 oz). The reason I didn't include is because most people would not bring these items as part of their kit.
No worries Bill, lot's of people purposely leave out necessary items on these type of lists to make it look like they are carrying less. I totally understand where you are coming from.
Bear canister? Clothes? Everything I used besides bear spray was in the video. The only extra clothes I have are rain gear, hat, gloves, puffy and an extra pair of socks.
Hey just a heads up!- I noticed that you showed your credit card... you may want to blur that out- This is not a good thing to do, especially when you film in 4k.
Oh man, good call!
MVP right here lol
I just learned from watching the creator of the deuces spade that the part where we tend to hold it works really well to start the hole, by sliding the spade down, in a circle pattern. Then the pointy end helps pull out the “plug” and dig deeper. So I just took off the duct tape on mine!
Wow, good tip!
NICE!
Brilliant review mate. Well organised, compact and totally livable. Judging by how you've put it all together, that there appears to be no reason, aside from the weather, which you or anyone else doesn't have a say in, that your hike shouldn't be a highly enjoyable experience. I hope it all went well for you. Looking forward to your trip debriefing
Thanks for watching! It was an amazing trip, brutal but amazing. First video should be coming in the next few weeks.
This is the best ultralight gear video I’ve came across so far.
You should check out some of my newer ones!
Seriously considering bailing on a fleece piece. I’m going to test some sun hoody pieces that could ride the line of being good in hot weather and effective enough as a rain buffer in cooler temps, with a synthetic jacket in the backpack as a last resort piece.
Would you use a thicker sun hoodie for this purpose?
That's what works for me. Sun hoodie all day and put my rain jacket on if I need a little added warmth. I use a synthetic puffy as a last resort piece if the weather changes significantly. I also wear the puffy in camp and in the cold mornings before things heat up.
Yeah boyyyyyy
Really appreciate your showing the gear list, weights, and quantities...big help for someone just starting out. But your chips are probably smashed up after hitting them so many times. :) Thanks again for the detailed info.
Haha, thanks for watching! I did the slaps as a bit of a joke to some previous comments. The chips get smashed up regardless so I was just breaking them in!
Put GG-pad on top of Nemo for more even cushioning and less pokey-Nemo-spikes? Pro-tip: use blue-painter's tape on the trowel, it has better grip, doesn't ooze/leave sticky residue and weighs less.
Never thought to put the GG on top. I’ve never really noticed the Nemo-spikes but it could be next level comfort if I change it up lol. Blue painters tape? Is there a secondary use for that? Duct tape can fix almost anything.
@@juicehikes5436 - Painter's tape is designed to leave no residue, so is useful for temporary fixes and things like trowels. Tyvek tape is designed for huge Tyvek sheets and is tougher than it looks. DCF-tape adhesive bonds over 24hrs to hold really well in many applications. All three are much lighter than Duct-tape and carrying all three weighs less than Duct-tape. Besides leaving sticky goo on everything it touches, Duct tends to peel-up at the corners. It always leaves a mess.
Carry the other three (as well as medical tapes) wrapped on McDonalds straw(s) cut to purpose for the lightest and most compact packaging.
I wish I could get another pair of Evo speedgoats, my favorite shoe of all time...
Mine too! They better not discontinue them! I have one pair with over 1000 miles on them and luckily a second pair with around 350 miles so I've got some time but I'll definitely need another pair in the next year. Hopefully there's a V2 coming because the Evo's are much better than the standard Speedgoat 4's.
Could you post some closer shots of how your tarp set up? I typically use a tarp/bivy combo, and I need to replace the tarp. I already happen to have a zpacks bathtub floor, so your set up could be a nice option.
Hey Jonathan. I just released Part 1 of the CDT hike and I show the tarp set up several times in that video so it should give you a pretty good idea. th-cam.com/video/ubdNxHry5lE/w-d-xo.html
Good to know about covering the tips of your trekking poles when carrying-on your pack. You’ve never had a problem with this? I’m flying with my pack in September for the first time and I keep going back and forth between checking vs. carry-on because of my trekking poles. Enjoy the trip!
Thanks Andrew! I just went through security 10 minutes ago with zero issues. Never had to open my bag.
@@juicehikes5436 Great to know. Thanks!
Technically, hiking poles are not allowed in your carry on. That doesn't mean you won't make it through if you have it collapsed but just know it is a risk. www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/hiking-poles
I have had issues with poles before. If you can pull the tips off you can always get through carry on security, but if not then I would check in. Such a pain in the ass though, can always buy tent stakes and knife at destination but I'm not buying another set of carbon poles every time I fly somewhere...
Keep working at it, man, you'll get there with a light pack.
Good luck to you and Darwin on your trip! Like you kit, very nice! Have not seen that pack before. Like the olight mini too. They make a cerakote version i might buy. I am also carrying a 20 degree sleeping bag most of the year. You get that extra comfort and you just never know when the temps might drop. Better safe than sorry.! Also interested in trying out a pair of Hoka. They look super comfortable! Stay safe! Hike on!
Thanks for tuning in!
For me I think the Rab sunhoodie UV +30 beats the OR sunhoodie. But thats my preference
Never tried that one! OR only claims 15 SPF but I've never gotten burned wearing it.
Thank you for awesome containt 😊🤟🏻
Great video. Can you take tent stakes on carry on? I prefer to take my bag on carry on too and not check in.
Thanks! I typically carry on my bag with tent stakes and trekking pole and have never had an issue. I have heard of some TSA agents not letting trekking poles through on occasion but I have never personally experienced that.
Great video. I'm turning 57 next month and have only done day hikes. I so want to start doing 2 day hikes working up to longer trips. Ty
Thanks Annette! Great plan to start small and build from there. I hope you get out soon!
Thank you for all your efforts. Inspirational!!
Thanks for tuning in Imran!
How many times have you flown with trekking poles? When was the last time you have flown with poles? Headed to GCNP for R2R2R and poles and my tiny razor knife are the only issues. Also, what do you do about a knife?
Hey Kevin, I've flown probably 5 times (last time I flew was to Glacier in July 2021) with poles now with no issues. That being said, one of my friends just went backpacking in CO and had his poles taken by TSA trying to fly home so there's no guarantee. There are still a few TSA agents that will take your poles unfortunately. I'd say the knife is more of a risk, that will likely get taken since they are on the look out for things like that. I left my knife for the last trip. If you really need it you can send it to yourself at the local post office ahead of time.
I have flown with 2 black diamond distance carbon z poles wrapped in my sleep sack inside my carry on backpack numerous times within USA and Spain (Santiago where they make everyone check their poles) without ever having to check them. They disassemble to 14.5 inches, are carbon fiber, and I unscrew the carbide tips to a separate container. I think the pair weighs 8 ounces.
Great video. 👌🏻 what is you food calorie per day goal?
Thanks! Maybe around 3000? It usually takes me about 4 days or so before the hunger starts kicking in and I need to up the calories. Typically burn around 8000+ so after day 5 I up the calories pretty significantly.
Did you get rid of the zerk 40? Looking for a fastpack style pack for under $200 was between that or the new gossamer gear fast kumo. Any thoughts, experiences, gripes on those two or any other that would meet that crtieria?
I still have the Zerk but I haven't used it since I started using Nashville Packs. I did like the Zerk but the Nashville Cutaway is superior in every way IMO. I don't have any experience with the Fast Kumo. The Cutaway may put you a little over your budget but you'll get a fantastic pack! nashvillepack.com?sca_ref=1569447.WVFsTfnoO1
Could you do a video on how you set up this tent?
I Jay. My buddy Bigfoot did review and setup video here th-cam.com/video/06wkiSvvjAo/w-d-xo.html
Juice... Do you remember if the body of your pack is the Dark Shadow or the Silver VX07 color? Also, are your water bottle pockets black grid/black or white grid/black? Being a small company, there are not a lot of examples out there to look at.
Hey Brian, I totally get it. I went with the Dark Shadow VX-07 with the black gridstop. Hope that helps!
Travelling within Canada I was asked to check my luggage that contained my trekking poles even though they had the rubber stoppers on them.
That's interesting. I've now flown three times in the last year (within the US) with a trekking pole and tent stakes and never even had them stop and look through my bag.
Hey you mentioned that you hang your food at night vs using a bear box. Is there a specific way that you hang it (distance off the ground and distance from branches or trunk)? Have you ever done a video demonstrating that?
Hey Zach, if there is a bear box at a site I will always use those for simplicity. If there isn't a bear box I'll hang using either the standard or PCT method (lots of videos on YT for that). Typically you want it at least 10 ft off the ground and as far away from the trunk of the tree as possible.
I like that idea of where your sleeping pads are but what do you do if it's raining?
Keep walking! Closed Cell foam pads don't absorb water so just give it a shake when you get to camp and the water on the outside dries quickly. A few panels are damp from sweat typically but has never been an issue.
Wow, this is a great video, lots of really interesting gear I haven't seen before, thank you for sharing.
Also, the little rubber stopper for the end of your trekking pole is called a ferrule, just in case you ever need to know 👍
Thanks for tuning in! Good to know about the ferrule, thanks!
Juice...how did you choose your torso length for your Cutaway? My torso measures out to about 18", but their website says in order to fit a 20" wide pad for the back (such as the Nemo Switchback) you have to get the size 20" torso pack. Is that what you went with or did you find that your pad fits the smaller torso sized packs? Thanks again.
Hey Brian, I did go with the 20'' torso pack. My torso measured 20'' so I guess maybe I got lucky that I chose the one that fits the Nemo Switchback.
Another great video! Thanks for sharing! :)
That CuloClean might just change my life in the backcountry...subbed!!
Thanks for the sub! The CuloCLean is fantastic.
I'm so glad to hear someone else using Hokas other than me for packing.
The Ultra's never worked for me. Almost everyone I hike with has more foot problems than I do so I am all in on Hokas. Some day the rest of the hiker community will see the light.
@@juicehikes5436 I couldn't hike without them! I have to get the most plush ones. I told my podiatrist about them and he now wears them always and tells his clients about them too. Thanks for the videos and reply!
Very cool! Thanks for making and posting.
Thanks for tuning in!
Would the sleeping pad pocket hold a full nemo pad?
By the full nemo pad did you mean the Nemo Switchback? If so, yes it fits. It just pushes the pack out a few more inches further from your back.
Hi Juice! I was wondering what size did you get for you pack? is that an 18" or 20" back?
I went with the 20'' back, fits really well!
Have you had any issues with dirtying your bottle using the bidet attachment? Seems like a splashy endeavor! 💩
Nope! A little trick, bring the bottle in from your front side as you are squatting so you get the right angle and the water sprays away from the bottle.
Hey Thanks great video and info
Thanks for tuning in Bill!
great gearload amigo! what was your actual starting pack weight was after food and water?
Thanks!! I think with 5 days of food and a liter of water it was 19 lbs.
How much money did you spend on all the stuff that you are taking about?
I'm not 100%. I almost always wait for a sale so this was all purchased at a discount. Except for the pack, I couldn't wait for a sale on that!
No garmin in reach?
I've used them in the past but on this trip one other person had one in the group so it really wasn't necessary to have multiple.
So I’m 5’7 160 pounds, how wide and length should I get and is 950 down better then 850 and why? Anyone?
I'm 6'1 and got the regular long. 950 fill is something like 10% more efficient than 850 down meaning you can get the same warmth with less down fill lowering the overall weight of the quilt. Just depends on if you are looking to save a few ounces.
that was very interesting, I learned new things, of course compared my gear :), one thing puzzled me though is 7.25 oz for your Enlightened Equipment Torrid Apex Jacket, I got excited about the weight but on their site with your specs, even the smaller size XS is a bit heavier than that...in my seize L it's 9.30oz, still looks like a great and pretty light jacket
EE has changed their fabrics since I purchased mine years ago. If you go with a 7D outer and inner fabric looks like you can get a size L down to 8.8 oz with the custom option. Thanks for watching!
When you did this hike did you ever think that you didn’t have enough warm clothes?
Not once! The clothing I had was perfect for the conditions I saw and moving all day. If it were earlier or later in the year additional clothing would have been necessary.
@@juicehikes5436 thanks for the reply! And that makes sense. I hike in the Canadian Rockies where we get some super hot summers as well, perhaps I’ll bring a few less layers for my next trip.
Nice pack. Its like a kumo But stepped up!!! Pretty much what I have been thinking of. I love the pad on backside and not in the pack. Also those pockets on shoulder straps!!!
It's an amazing pack for sure. Zero complaints!
amazing list,thanks
How has the 7d fabric worked out on your quilt? Have you had any down loss? I have it on the inside of my torrid as well but am hesitating to get it on a quilt. Enjoy the Bob!
Thanks Jon, the Bob was great! I posted the 2 trip videos over the last few weeks th-cam.com/video/ubdNxHry5lE/w-d-xo.html. The 7d has been great on the quilt, I have had maybe 2 feathers come out total which is better than any other quilt I've owned. I wouldn't hesitate to use their 7D again!
Good to know, thanks! I get behind on YT during hiking season but I will add your trip to my list!
Totally get it! Thanks' for watching!
Got a link for the sun hoodie?
Yup! I have links for all my videos in the description but here are the ones for the sun hoodie.
Outdoor Research Echo Sun Hoodie
Amazon - amzn.to/33r31jE
Outdoor Research - bit.ly/3qzv5v3
Nice kit! Not sure about the rock-sack as your toothbrush holder though!? Rocks will leave soil particles in the bag and many soil bacteria are not organisms you want to voluntarily introduce into your mouth or GI tract!
A little grit in your toothpaste builds character and stronger immune system lol. Thanks for tuning in!
I too am a fan of the speedgoats, but mine always come apart at the toe guard and the soles are trashed after 5-600 miles. But I keep buying them :)
These have held up really well! Over 1000 miles now with zero holes in the upper and the cushioning is still good. The toe guard has pealed a little and the grips on the bottom have wore down quite a bit. Still some life left in them though!
No load straps on backpack?
Nope! With the running vest style straps it puts more load on your chest than your shoulders so load lifters aren't necessary.
Thanks for sharing! I was curious, do you sleep in your hiking shirt, because I didn't see any other extra shirts? Thanks and happy trails!
I either sleep with no shirt or just sleep in my hiking shirt. I haven't missed not having an extra shirt in camp, embrace the stink!
@@juicehikes5436 Hehe, thanks for the reply! Good night in grizzly country :)
Love it! Where did you get all those different sized stuff sacks? Looks perfect to organize everything.
Thanks Mats! The stuff sacks are kind of a hodge podge of different purchases over the years. My food bag is from Zpacks, the stuff sack I keep my tarp in is from a tarp I purchased from Hammock Gear, my ditty bag is the stuff sack that the Pocket Tarp from Zpacks came in originally, and rock bag came with the food bag when I ordered it from Zpacks. Really everything besides the food/rock bag were just stuff sacks that came with other things I have acquired over the years but now serve a different purpose now. Hope that helps!
What is the weight of you Nashville pack?
14.1 oz on my scale
Awesome loadout
Thanks!
Great video! Thank you for sharing your gear and insights.
A couple questions:
Looks like you switched out your ThermaRest Uber lite pad - Was that a trip specific decision?
Also, you switched out your Patagonia shell for the Enlightened Equipment jacket - Sounds like you really enjoy the EE jacket over the Patagonia. Is this correct?
Thanks again! I’m sure Montana will be amazing.
Thanks for tuning in! I switched out sleeping pads just as a personal preference of noise. I toss and turn and the material the Thermarest is made of isn't quiet (for me). The Nemo Switchback is quiet in comparison which is the main reason I switched. The Patagonia R1 vs the EE Torrid Apex are completely different animals. The Patagonia is more of an active layer for wearing in cooler temps on trail. The EE jacket is more of an in camp puffy. When I hiked the Colorado trail the focus was much more on layers that work while hiking since the only time I spent in camp was sleeping. For this trip I'll be putting in pretty big miles but will still have time to relax in camp which is why I'm bringing the EE jacket. So really it comes down to what type of layer you need. If you are crushing miles and need layers that you can throw on as the conditions change go R1. If you will have time in camp and want to be warm and comfortable go EE.
You are a master and awesome!
Nah, pretty regular guy.
Is that sub 8lbs including food and water? Or base? Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for tuning in! The sub 8 lbs is for everything EXCLUDING Food and Water.
@@juicehikes5436 right on!
How do you attach the SS Nano to the Pocket tarp. The tarp peaks in the center and the Nano peaks to one side. Did you find a way to make them not touch? Or do you just live with it?
The peak of the nano lines up pretty well with the pocket tarp. There is a hook that attatches to a loop at the peak of the tarp then I added a patch with a loop by my feet to pull the netting further away to provide more space. The nano just slopes more towards your feet which is where you don't need a ton of extra room.
Great video thanks. Do you have a website or similar with that kit list set out? I'm not familiar with all the brand names etc.
Thanks Martin! If you look in the description of the video all the gear is listed out with links to the websites.
Mind disclosing which size of Senchi Designs Wren hoodie fits you? I'm the same height and weight as you (6'1" 173lb), and I'd love to know which size works out for you
I wear a size medium and it fits great!
@@juicehikes5436 okay, so I'm gonna dare to ask a weird. Mind telling me your sleeve length?
Did you size up on the shoulder straps, knowing you'd be putting 2 pads on the back panel?
No, the shoulder straps are pretty adjustable so no changes needed to accommodate for the pads.
@@juicehikes5436 Thanks, that's good to know. I have an MLD Prophet which I tried to do an exterior back panel with 6 panels of Z-Rest and it didn't work.
Just wondering if you quilt makes contact with your pocket tarp or is there sufficient clearance. Thanks.
Hey David, it has on occasion but it's usually not an issue. I set my trekking pole to 125 cm which is a little higher than Zpacks recommends which gives me a little more room. If you move a lot in the night or are pitched on a slope it's possible to wake up at either end of the tarp and your quilt is touching the walls. Pretty standard for pretty much any shelter.
@@juicehikes5436 Thanks for the response.Take care.
what do you do against getting your insulating mat wet on the back of your pack? (when it rains)
Closed cell foam pads don't retain any water. If they are wet on the outside due to rain just give them a shake when you get to camp and they are good to go.
That's minimal man! You've got everything you could possibly need though! Great gear!
Thanks Buckley! It's no Superior Gear Hammock but it will do!
@@juicehikes5436 I'd trade you if my back could take it!
Bro u do the same thing as me with those jalepeno chips. I always take a bag of Great Value walmart jalepeno chips haha. Never thought anyone else did that.
I rarely leave home without them!
Whats with the constant leg-and-gear-slapping?
It was meant to be a joke from something from another video. I realize it's a little annoying and won't occur in future videos.
why arent you using the Flex Air Ultralight Pillow?
Personal preference. I like the shape and material the Thermarest pillow is made of.
as finishing CDT sobo on Nov 15th. I think this setup only works for Montana and Wyoming. Definitely not Colorado
Why not in Colorado?
@@juicehikes5436 most sobos hit Colorado in September or October, you definitely need extra clothes and warmer sleeping bag/pad. I stayed at Elwood pass overnight. it was under 10 degree for sure. you may take look anyway halfway survey for CDT hiker. Most thru-hiker had similar experience.
Yeah, it's possible to need to change your gear depending on the trail and time of year you will be hiking. 10 degrees would definitely be pushing this system but also 10 degrees is pretty unseasonable cold for Colorado in September/October. I hiked the Colorado Trail last year in August and brought less warm gear than in this kit and was more than fine. My buddy Darwin hiked the whole CDT this year and stayed with the same 20 degree bag and similar clothing setup to me and didn't have any issues with being cold. It's always a roll of the dice but good to re-evaluate like you said if you are expecting colder temps later into your hike.
@@juicehikes5436 Darwin started early, but I started at July 12th. I can not compare CT and CDT, these two trails are quit different.
They are different but the Colorado section of the CDT covers about 235 miles of the Colorado Trail so there are a lot of similarities. It really just depends on the time of year you are hiking it. Darwin started on July 1, so not too much before you.
Amazing,thank you
Thanks Chris!
Go get em brother!
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no sleep clothes / base layer?
Nope, and nope. I just haven't found either necessary especially in summer. If this trip were later in the fall I would probably consider bringing a light fleece.
👍. Have fun.
Thanks Mark! Should be a blast!
Great video. Some feedback: You keep slapping your hand on your leg and everything, after you share your expertise on them. Each time you do it, it’s like you’re saying ‘I don’t know.’, but you really do!
Haha, I did the pack slapping as a joke. In a previous video I did it without realizing so I did this for all the people that commented on the last one. Future videos won't contain the slaps lol.
Yeah and it's not fun on headphones.
Good presentation. 'Juice Hikes' eh? Also known as 'Juice does the Everglades Challenge'? :>)
Thanks Peter! Never done the Everglades Challenge.
How in the name of god do you side sleep on that? I can barely side sleep on the inflatable ones!
It's not bad! I have since switched to mostly use the Nemo Tensor sleeping pad though. A little heavier but warmer and a little more comfortable.
@@juicehikes5436 Hey thanks for the update! Using this video as inspiration for a fastpacking setup (but need more comfort sleeping).
Love the kit! One comment because it has become a pet peeve of mine as a medical doctor. Imodium (loperamide) will prolong an infectious diarrheal illness and can lead to a life threatening illness called toxic megacolon. Don’t risk taking Imodium. In my opinion it should not be an over the counter medication. It should be prescription only. I see a handful of patients every month that make themselves worse by taking Imodium. Thanks again for the great review.
Thanks for the heads up Richard! I've only taken it one time when I had Montezuma's Revenge after accidentally consuming contaminated water in Mexico. I really just bring it as a last resort in case I pick up something nasty and need something to give me some time to get off trail.
bear spray ?
Haha, nice timing Craig. I literally just texted Darwin to see if he can pick me up a can. Due to recent events and the remoteness of The Bob it's a good call.
Great info!
Thanks for tuning in Michael!
@@juicehikes5436 yes will continue. 3 days on both cdt and pct and many sections of the AT but dormant that last 10 years.
hit the chips one more time, go on . . . nice vid. thanks for the links.
lol, thanks for tuning in!
Good setup, i ordered the pack, the running strap was something different
I hope you enjoy! It's a sick pack!
Lol at the full bag of lays kettle cooked
I sent myself a second bag to pick up at the Benchmark Wilderness Ranch too!
Thanks for being you and making these videos. I've adopted some of your gear choices and haven't looked back. I also jumped on an offer from the guys over at Nashville Pack, who offered to make me a Cutaway with a 6L expansion mod (current test name is Cutaway Overdrive) after a detailed email conversation with Bedhead about needing some more space - their customer service really is out of this world.
Regarding your trekking pole choice, is there's a reason you choose to go with the Leki Micro Vario pole over some of the other lighter options available on the market?
Lastly, don't think too hard on the people that try to put you down in the comments, you're a really likable dude but unfortunately it's impossible to please everybody.
Thanks for the kind words Fredrik, I appreciate you watching my content. I'm also glad to hear that you've enjoyed some of the gear I use and also the great customer service you've experienced with Nashville Packs. I've experience the same with those guys!
In regards to my trekking pole I've never really seen the value of going super lightweight with poles. I've never noticed the weight or felt held back from using a non-ultralight pole. I would rather have something bomb proof because my pole takes quite a bit of abuse. Aluminum is great because if you really take a spill and bend it you can typically just bend it right back. I've seen way too many broken poles and unhappy hikers by going with lighter options.
Great video
Thanks for watching!
24:14 What did you call me?
How tall are u?
I'm 6'1
@@juicehikes5436 And the hexamid works fine for you?
It does work fine with a little room to spare. I've actually got the new Altaplex Tarp on order for 2022 as it has a little more room for just 1.5 oz more. zpacks.com/products/altaplex-tarp-w-doors?aff=60. The Hexamid has been great but a little more room is always nice.
@@juicehikes5436 Okey, nice! Thanks for the info, im also 6.1 and thinking about a hexamid. Altaplex too pricey for this poor student lol.
@@kasianfranmitja5298 yeah I get it, the Altaplex tarp is $100 more. The Hexamid is fine for someone 6'1. I pitch it with my pole at 125 CM and I think Zpacks recommended 120 CM. This gives you a little more room and clearance in the Hexamid.
New subscribe nice load out very light atvb jimmy from England 😎😎👍👍
Thanks for tuning in and the sub!
Those chips are the shit!
Yes, yes they are...
Make sure to take extra B-roll for Darwin in case he loses his footage again! 😂Good luck!
Haha! Will do!
I’m always shocked when I watch these hiking vids, how crappy ppl. eat while on the trail. Best of luck on your hike with Darwin. 👍
Haha, it's not too bad. When I'm not doing 25+ mile days I like to eat well, just didn't happen on this trip. Just got back from Nepal with Darwin, video dropping Thursday!
Only one bag of chips food wise
I sent myself a 2 day resupply to Benchmark Ranch with a bag of jalepeno Fritos so I had to stretch the first bag for 4.5 days.
Liked and subbed.
Thanks!
I don't get the dislike for spam. Spam is delicious.
Right?
It would be so awesome if you had about a 2 minute and 10 second intro leading into the actual subject...
Uh, you're welcome?? The skip button is pretty hard to find lol.
I thought to myself, is this the video he realstes that him patting on the back every minute gets picked up by the mic really loud, but alas… 😂
Have fun, thanks as always.
Haha! In a previous video I didn't realize it and a lot of people commented on it so I did it this time more of a joke. Thanks for tuning in Roger!
So. Much. Slapping.
Them undies gon be RIIIIIPPPPEEE
Gotta embrace the stank!!!
I dunno man, you're carrying that camera equipment in your pack. then how in the hell is not in your baseweight? It is a luxury item and you should count it.
The camera is my phone which was included in the base weight. The only things that were not included were the microphone (1.22 oz) that plugs into the phone and the small tripod (2.75 oz). The reason I didn't include is because most people would not bring these items as part of their kit.
@@juicehikes5436 My apologies for the mistake.
No worries Bill, lot's of people purposely leave out necessary items on these type of lists to make it look like they are carrying less. I totally understand where you are coming from.
The dang bear canister weighs 2lb. Also clothes…
Bear canister? Clothes? Everything I used besides bear spray was in the video. The only extra clothes I have are rain gear, hat, gloves, puffy and an extra pair of socks.
Take a drink every time he smacks his legs.
Actually don't, you might die from alcohol poisoning. Lol
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video good, hand slaps bad lol
Thanks Nelson, I did the hand slaps as a joke to some comments that were on a previous video. There won't be any slaps going forward.
It's so bizarre hearing people say "culo clean" with no inflection.
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the big three....all else is details...
hal-uh-pee-noh.
Oh no ! Darwin. Doesn't he just carry shoelaces ? ;)
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