....And lying to us all with their shady business dealings going on behind the scenes! Extortionate salaries, relocating officesmoving home. .. ie, Huw Edwards, Jimmy Saville, and the Journalist who actually FORGED DOCUMENTS to intimidate and deceive Diana, the then Princess of Wales. They are the real crooks imo.😡 It's been over 4 years since I last watched ANY television since my dad died. Not only have I been dealing with my loss, but also busy sorting out his chattels, but mainly cos their channels are simply 💩. They have already received 4 years of payments out of me that I really shouldn't have paid. But I stupidly did, as I didn't want to deal with yet more harassment or stress. It was bad enough just trying to cope with my loss and sifting through his belongings. I haven't even had the time to watch ANY television or live BBC , cos it is simply crap 💩! I am PAYING NO MORE!!!!!
I never paid tv licence for 30 years now, tthey use to send letters, for past 1 year they give up, for 30 years they never come at my door and ask me for tv licence, i watch some USA app for free called Tubi, is like amazon videos
I had one of those. I rang to say I don't need TV licence He got very upset when I called them salesmen, he said they no longer get commission as they're now salaried. Told him they can't come as we've withdrawn IROA...
I was getting 1 or more a month. Telling me they were in the area, well I'm a curtain twitcher like Michael Payne and haven't seen 1 of them terrorists yet 😅
When cancelling always sue TV licencing for any delay in paying you the refund. I did, they failed to file a defence and I got judgment which they then tried to worm out of. They ended up paying my costs, interest plus the debt. I was hoping to get the bailiffs round to their office, but they paid up before.
I got a leaflet with my red envelope letter this week, it was titled 'our most affordable way to pay for a TV licence' just shows how desperate they are getting. Half a million ppl cancelled their licence last year and this year with Starmers tax hicks and the BBC's support of Hue Edwards it's going to be even more.
Maybe half a million have cancelled their license but that doesn’t include many who have just stopped paying like myself, I would suggest the number is far higher than admitted, they are panicking as the snouts in the trough will end that’s why they have employed Capita goons at great cost to bully and harass us, bring it on.
Just cancelled mine after 3 years not watching BBC. Paid £16.50 cancellation fee and have just received my first threatening letter. Seems like it's going to be a long journey. Possibly the only finish is when the BBC is cancelled.
People were scared back in the 70's as it was embarrassing to be caught without a tv licence when we only had three channels,but now there is brilliant tv but not on the . BBC
Send a letter reply the first time simply saying you don't need one, and any further contact will be reported as harassment. Enclose an invoice for the time you spent writing the letter, the time you spent preparing the invoice, the materials used (paper, pen, printer ink, or whatever), cost of the stamp, and the time (& petrol expenses?) taking the letter to the postbox/post office. Charge your time at a minimum of about £16 an hour, (average wage) or more if you are paid more.
CJC youve obviously had a tough time lately. It will get better. Please bear in mind that you are really helping a lot of people out - me included 👍. I hope that someone kind walks into your life. Best wishes to you
Its already been tried, a guy took them to court and the judge ruled that the BBC must give people the option to tell them they dont need a tv licence but they can harass as much as they want otherwise, thats why they put the no needed licence number in place a few years ago because of that court case.
I wonder if there is class action case against TV Licensing & the PR firms, they hire for breaching the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations (2008). People are being pressured into buying TV Licenses (via door to door sales reps with over authoritative/intimidating titles), TV Licensing are arguably using scare tactics to convince people that they need a license , constantly contacting people and pestering them into a buying license, keeping important information about the service hidden or obscured (i.e. vague guidelines around who actually needs to pay for a TV License).
Demanding money with menaces and sending threatening letters (so regular they are harassment) IS against the law. I am REALLY surprised that somebody has never tried to sue them in court
@@blahmcblahface3965 They must get hefty commission I think, because they used to come round every day for months on end but I would not answer the door. Times they would come would vary from around 3 O'clock and 9.30pm! I eventually let this guy come in to see I only have the pc hooked up to my monitor. Didn't pester me for 2 years, then again started to enforce their regimental door knocking routine until I told them to go way personally. Over 10 years ago! Still get the letters though!
We've had 2 visits (no thank you, door closed) and yesterday we got an even more 'scary scary woowoo' letter with even more detail about what we can't watch (we don't watch any of the things listed however they were lies as if we wanted to, we could, as long as the programmes weren't live streamed). It always tickles me how the letters state that even if you tell them, you can still expect a visit. I did used to feel 'scared' by these, now I laugh and have a 'yeah right, bring it on' attitude. Thanks for these videos.
I cancelled my direct debit over 6 months ago & wrote & told them, I no longer need a licence, they replied & said my address was no noted that i do not require a licence & they will review in 12 months time. Thankfully, I haven't heard anything from them. All thanks to you Jon. Cheers mate !!
The moment that 12 months is up, you'll hear from them. Trust me. I did the same thing and they said they wouldn't contact for two years. As soon as that was up, the letters started coming again.
Utterly ridiculous tax! If I was still in the UK, the only live stream I ever watch is Sky Sport coverage streamed online, of the Tour de France….why in the name of jeebus is in any way anything to do with the BBC? It is NOT a licence, it is an unfairly implemented tax.
I've been getting my threatening letters for the last three years. Think about it! I do not owe them a single penny and yet I'm still getting a stupid letter from these people every month without fail. How is this not considered to be harrassment? Why hasn't this been challenged by one of the human rights online Orgs. Needs to be!
There are going to be a lot of OAPs who will be scared by these tactics, especially if they do not know, have not watched your entertaining and informative videos. Luckily I have, and feel much safer about these threats. I too am recieving these despicable and threatening letters, but having watched you on you tube, I feel that I am pretty much prepared.
I cancelled my tv tax about 5 years ago, I got a goon at the door 2 days later the other half told her to get lost, next thing she had her face pressed into the window trying to see if the Tv was on, I hit he window and it shocked her as she ran off.. lol. Never had a letter from them in all this time.
i live in jersey.... and actually got a knock ! i was amazed ! he had the tablet, the lanyard, i asked who he was, he said..... i just replied " no thanks" and shut the door.
Stay strong. My first two years without a TV Licence comes up next January. But today they sent me a ‘reminder’ - 4 months before the anniversary. Basically a veiled threat with the usual menaces, requiring me to go through the whole No Licence Required rigmarole again. Probably hoping I won’t spot their tricky reverse yes/no questions. All they have to do is ask if my circumstances have changed [no]. They seem to firmly believe I am lying. They must think I am a BBC TV presenter. Despicable.
@@clawrence6190 yes, they have reduced the valid period of a No Licence Required Declaration to only a year. So now my next “review” is Sept 2025. I am so glad I’m close to 75 yo.
My postie, now, just throws them on the outhouse floor. They're forming a carpet. My only fear is that some do gooder might notice the carpet and smash the door down. Well, if society wants me to carefully process all its unsolicited mail then it's going to have to pay me. I've gone all Quentin Crisp with it.
These letters are sent out in the hundreds and thousands daily by a marketing company who have no connection to the enforcement division. That's why no-one ever visits on the dates stated on the letter. The wording on the letters have been checked and double checked by legal departments so there's little chance of winning a harassment case against them. If you don't need a licence just ignore the letters and don't get in touch with TVL.
I got 1 today; telling me they will come on or arround the 5th October. I have added my letter to my filing envelope, which is very, very, very thick. I have been waiting for their visits for over 2 years now.
The are sales people nothing else & I don’t buy anything at my door or give out any details of mine plus I have cctv they would run I have been waiting almost 7 years now just the same letters = no visits
Traffic Wardens are now titled 'Civil Enforcement Officers' . They walk around council run car parks and parking meters , hoping to catch a driver without a parking ticket , or an expired one , as well as hoping to ticket a vehicle for having a tyre touching a double yellow line 😡 It's another money making racket run by councils ......
I suffer from PTSD, panic attacks and anxiety disorder, i don’t use any BBC services but the threats and letters makes my mental issues worse and really distress me.
These letters are sent out in the hundreds and thousands daily by a marketing company who have no connection to the enforcement division. That's why no-one ever visits on the dates stated on the letter. The wording on the letters have been checked and double checked by legal departments so there's little chance of winning a harassment case against them. If you don't need a licence just ignore the letters and don't get in touch with TVL.
Like the Starmer regime , and the regimes before him , the BBC is just their propaganda machine who prey on the fears of the general public . Fear can be seen as 'False Events Appearing Real' . Bin every letter without opening them . 😊
As I understand it, it costs the BBC £6 million pounds for Capita to run TV Licensing, a total waste. That equates to roughly 35,000 license payers. It just doesn't make sense. Do they really claw all that back from prossicutions? I would be very surprised if they got a quarter of that back.
The goons recently gave me a date for a visit, but came the date before. My porch door is always locked, and I don’t have a bell or knocker. They tapped several times, but I ignored them. They then went around to my back door to no avail. They repeated this same procedure three times, over one hour intervals. Jon, you’ve said before that the goons can’t go to our back door.
this wretched extortion racket is just one of the many, many things wrong with this country. Can you imagine if this were the other way round. If you repeatedly wrote hundreds of letters in red ink to the BBC saying "you should give me some money, or i'm going to come round to your home and have a few words with you". How many letters before the police came to your house to find out if you're a potential terrorist.
Send a few boys round of course to show you mean business :) Yeh if everyone objected to paying the bbc they should all do it then it would have to stop! I wonder if anyone has actually sued the bbc successfully over this but we don't get to know about it? Same as the unlawful dismissal of peoples jobs for not accepting an injection!
My threat was the 5th of September (ignored) Got one today offensive but no threat of a visit. People who post "offensive " posts on twitter or Facebook get sent to jail because somebody says they have committed a hurty crime. If I told the police I was offended by these threatening letters they would investigate me while somewhere a kid gets stabbed.
I'm born 1946, on Pension Credit & one of the few 'entitled' to a free licence. I don't even want a free one, but they still harass me with all this pointless BS through my letterbox.
I don’t have a car. I look forward to my threatening letters from DVLA threatening to send their enforcement officers round because I don’t have a tax disc registered at this address. Perhaps I should inform them that I don’t need one. I haven’t got a dog either (or a fish for those who remember Monty Python).
DVLA don’t send a threatening letter. My RFL is due at the end of this month and I’ve received the standard reminder. As you can only renew 7 days before it’s due, I’ll renew in a few days. Don’t watch live TV, haven’t watched the Beeb in decades, so I don’t have a licence. They can Foxtrot Oscar.
Got this letter too so I filed it with the others. I will be in on the 25th September but I do not legally required a tv licence just like you lovely man.😆
I got one of the red envelope ones the other day, it's still sat here unopened. 5yrs of investigation and I'm still 'The Legal Occupier', their investigative team must be the worst on the planet. No visits yet and I only live about 10 minutes away from a Crapita office building.
I've had three visits. The first I just said In reply to "Are you Mr ******", "Who are you? , answer "TV Licensing", so... "Have you made an appointment, (No) goodbye", shut door. The other two were handwritten postcards put through the door (both times I was in btw). Seven years and probably 40 letters now. Phrrr.
The letters are hilarious 😂 I have a nice collection building up, and when they do eventually turn up, I shall invite them in and harass them like they have “the legal occupier” (me) I haven’t watched tv since I left school 25 years ago, I have a big tv for TH-cam and PlayStation and very much looking forward to them trying to tell me I need a license for that 😂 Love your content dude, keep spreading the knowledge ☺️🤘
Cancelled my license three years ago. Had numerous threatening letters since (just addressed to ”The Legal Occupier”) including “Final Investigation” ones, and those asking “ will you be in on…..?” I tear every letter to shreds and put them in the recycling bin.
They all go straight in the bin. I cancelled my direct debit and even though the licence runs for a few more months the threatening letters started already. Disgusting
Received loads of those letters much to my amusement, but there is a new one doing the rounds I got yesterday Clear window says 10-DAY WINDOW. "We are giving you a 10-day window to get correctly licenced". These days, there are many more TV channels to enjoy. But to watch TV live, you need to be covered by a TV licence. As this address does not have a TV licence, it is now under investigation. Normally, you could expect a visit at any time. However, to help you get correctly licenced, we are putting your case ON HOLD for the next 10 days". Blah blah blah blah blah. I have had so many threatening letter telling me I am under investigation, getting a visit, could be jailed that I am completely numb to every single threat. If I received a letter once every 20 years I might take them seriously. Next threatening letter please Paedophile Corporation.
@@kayrb2475 They are trying every tactic including grovelling and bribery to get people to buy a licence, but I vowed 6 years ago to never ever give the Paedophile Corporation another penny ever again.
Iv received half a dozen threatening letters from tv licence in the last 3 months despite going on their website and answering their questions .if it wasnt for you id be more anxious than i am . So thank you. ❤️👍
*I had a flyer from Iceland through my letterbox today. Now I’m worried they might send the boys round to see if I’ve got any Crispy Chicken Breast Dippers in my freezer and I can’t find any reference to the “No Crispy Chicken Breast Dippers Required Declaration” on their website. HELP ME JON!* 😱
Have been watching for some time and love the videos! I do have a question, I apologise if it's been answered before, here goes: As stated "You can receive a maximum fine of £1000, plus court costs and COMPENSATION" Errrr who the hell is receiving this compensation? The BBC? What for? The emotional distress of someone not paying for a licence? Are they having a laugh?
It was great to watch lee andersons reform uk speech in birmingham where he produced a tv licence letter that he had received and he tore it up on stage. Well worth a watch.
I got so sick of the threatening letters , that I decide to get a solicitors letter stating “This is intimidation, and Harassment “. If they continued we would take it to court - that was over 2 years ago . I also removed implied rights of access to my property ( as I have a fence , and gate access )
My 2 year “exemption” ran out in August, I received a letter telling me I’d need to re-do my “declaration” or receive a visit. I decided not to renew my “exemption” as it’s none of their business. I only watch my blu rays, DVD’s and a bit of TH-cam. No live stuff, no BBC filth. Last week I received another letter stating I’d not renewed again. I may expect a visit. I’m looking forward to my “no thanks” on opening my door (if I can be arsed)
I've never paid the TV tax, and now I've reached the age where I'd get a free pass, but I still don't play their game, their letters don't even get opened, do not engage with them, there is nothing to fear, there's nothing they can do when you refuse to engage.
My latest letter asked if I'd be in on 18th September. I was and no one came. Such a pity as I had a pot of tea and some coffee & walnut cake ready to entertain my important visitor.
Keep up the good work, Mr Carne. As I have said in a previous post I am on my 9th letter and the 9th letter was in a red envelope which is supposed to scare me I suppose. I can imagine it will scare some people. This is just harassment. This just makes me stand stronger in saying defund the BBC.
My letter said they were coming on 19th September .. never arrived ... a goon appeared at my door 3 weeks ago told him I did not require a licence and shut the door .. then 10 days ago letter arrived ... this is what they are doing with the licence tax harassing members of the public constantly ... I am sure they have my address on a loop of these bloody letters
What I have never understood is why the commercial channels have put up with this for so long and not brought pressure on the BBC to stop hassling their viewers and allow them to watch their channels without the govt approved licence.
Yes the same stupid letters keep arriving to my letter box from bullshit tv licensing, I like you had my final warning of my investigation but unlike you my next letter didn’t go back to the beginning of starting an investigation again lol, the threatening letters keep coming and with them my resolve to ignore them just increases 10 fold, like you Jon I am legit and don’t watch anything that requires a tv licence, I have more than enough on Netflix, Amazon Prime and TH-cam, I wouldn’t watch anything on MSM if they paid me lol😊😅😂
Reading other comments on your videos CJC, it's a mixed bag with the no licence declaration. I have done it, and not heard a thing from them in 5 years. No letters, no visits. Just an email reminder every 2 years to do the declaration again. They do say they may come around and check, but if they did I would just say no thanks and shut the door. Of course, it's up to the person responsible what they want to do.
@@MikeEves I made it clear that it's up to the individual. I would prefer not to declare every 2 years but in my experience it leads to a peaceful life.
I got one "Will you be in on 2nd October" to which I wrote "that's for me to know and you to find out" before putting "return to sender at BBC's cost" on the envelope! The address at Darlington.
If the return address is a PO box in Darlington I know it is BBC/TV Licencing so I don't even open the letter - just black out my address (always to "The Legal Occupier" even though we've been here since1998) and write RETURN TO SENDER on the front and repost.
I’ve gone online to not renew the Tv licence. As a previous comment I made, it was my late partner who watched live Tv all of the time. I now just watch catch up. Online, and I screened shot all parts of the online form, they said thank you, you will be contacted in the next few days and was given a cancellation code. We will see. Thank you Chilli Jon for such informative videos 😊
I haven't paid the BBC tax for 5 years now and if I had kept all the letters I have been receiving I would have a pile reaching the moon. I don't even bother to open the letter, it goes straight in the bin. Never had anyone, so far, knocking at my door. I wish they did in order to have the pleasure to shut it on their nose without saying a word.
17th September for me. Into the bin went the threatogram. Heading for my 4th anniversary with no licence (as I play by the rules), no live broadcast tv for me. Thak you for giving us the information and me the confidence to be licence free.
Their letters make great fire lighters when crumpled. IGNORE them. Protection from Harassment Act 1997, serve notice of their harassment then report them to the Police and consider issuing a private civil claim.
I rang them up after my last letter, introduced myself as the occupier, (they couldn't even be bothered to find my surname) reminded them that I canceled my TV license due to certain people the BBC had hired, I then told them I had removed their right of implied access to my home. That was 5 years ago, haven't had a single letter or visit since.
Did you know that Shakira's Hips Don't Lie video here on the tube has almost 1.5 BILLION views? As someone once commented on that very video many years ago.. "Sometimes in your head, there's just a voice saying Shakira Shakira.."
Hi Jon having now watched several of your excellent videos I’ve now cancelled my tv license,I suddenly came to the conclusion that I don’t require one,the only one thing I watched live was GB News & I can listen to that on the digital radio so I thought sod it cancel it .I think you should be nominated for OBE or MBE etc for the work you have done on this subject and have put to us but sadly would fall on deaf ears,please keep up your excellent work and look forward to the next videos..
They have started sending me threats again. I have a load of these threatening letters. Thinking I'll file a claim against them under the Protection from Harassment Act.
I have had a visit form a Goon this morning, I was busy and didn't answer the door. They left a shiny red leaflet stating "Do Not Ignore" "We believe there is no license at this address.. etc" Straight in the bin!
I’ve just had letter number twelve with a window showing in big red letters saying An investigation has been authorised at this address, for all to see, When a barrister takes them to task for intimidation and harassment I will be first in the queue as I can feel a claim coming on. So come on you legal eagles sort it out
I have had two posted letters and today, a card declaring "I have been" from an enforcement officer. They didn't have my name, just this premises our records show has no TV licence. They threaten to keep visiting if I do not respond and buy a licence or answer my door. I live on the second floor of a block of flats, they cannot see into my property unless they have a 3 metre ladder! I will simply not answer the door if Im in, just ignore them. I was at work and not home when they came today so no chance of me answering!
This whole TVL system is just outdate. Like (you may not agree with this list) smoking in pubs, fox hunting and child labour - this king of thing should be made a thing of the past and the BBC should be set free to make money on a global basis.
They do make money on a global basis, they own other channels and BBC companies that make money worldwide through sales of programs, subscriptions, and advertising.
I’ve been living on my own since I was 16 years old. I amnow 57. I have never had a TV licence and I never will have one, but what I’m not understanding is why do you get these letters every month? when I get them probably once every six or seven months!
I have had a number exactly like that over the years. They have never once actually turned up. It is just part of their merry go round of standard threats.
If it were just sales - that would be aggravating enough. This is protectionism, though. 'If you buy a TV License - we will halt our contribution to your increased anxiety.' 'Watch out on the 25th of September! If we don't catch you, then, we could catch you before then or after then! If you open your door to the outside, for any reason, we could well be waiting for you. But if you give us money, and you keep doing it, we won't be loitering and threatening you.' Protectionism should be illegal. A legitimate business model should not be allowed to be based upon the exchange of money for not doing something that you shouldn't be doing anyway (namely - hurting others).
Cancelled my TV licence 3 years ago. I've always updated them that I no longer need it. They've wrote to me asking do I still require one. I have replied no and they've never actually called, never received any letters apart from the one asking if I still require one. Keep going john
Some do, but many others have a similar regime. For example, Germany, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Japan and Pakistan. But most countries have now abolished it
I've not had a licence for 15 years.
Threat after threat after threat.
All piss and wind.
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Well done 👍
Yep, meaningless drivel.
I wish they would use softer paper, because this toilet paper is a bit harsh on the old behind.
Perfect for my two cockatiel's cage though.
Yes same as Izal
Yes, also the paper tends to slide up one's back.
@@violet2 It’s like the Izal paper we had at school,It doesn’t wipe your bum it just spreads it around a bit.
It helps to get my wood stove going quite well though.
TV Licensing must be the only organisation that can get away with harassing the public 😬
Local councils all do the same money with menaces .
Local councils and utilities companies get away with it as well
Is part of the government propaganda machine A disgrace
Best plan is to take your TV to a charity shop - get back into reading , learning a language, get the dumbbells dusted down .
....And lying to us all with their shady business dealings going on behind the scenes! Extortionate salaries, relocating officesmoving home. ..
ie, Huw Edwards, Jimmy Saville, and the Journalist who actually FORGED DOCUMENTS to intimidate and deceive Diana, the then Princess of Wales. They are the real crooks imo.😡
It's been over 4 years since I last watched ANY television since my dad died. Not only have I been dealing with my loss, but also busy sorting out his chattels, but mainly cos their channels are simply 💩.
They have already received 4 years of payments out of me that I really shouldn't have paid. But I stupidly did, as I didn't want to deal with yet more harassment or stress. It was bad enough just trying to cope with my loss and sifting through his belongings.
I haven't even had the time to watch ANY television or live BBC , cos it is simply crap 💩!
I am PAYING NO MORE!!!!!
Cancelled 2 weeks ago and already received my 1st letter. Thank you CJC. You and Black belt barrister are an inspiration.❤❤
I cancelled two weeks ago and have had 2 goon visits in 2 days, filled in the online form to say I don't need a license but they still appear
Same as 😊
Ditto..
I never paid tv licence for 30 years now, tthey use to send letters, for past 1 year they give up, for 30 years they never come at my door and ask me for tv licence, i watch some USA app for free called Tubi, is like amazon videos
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You’re doing a great public service. Cheers Jon
Hi benny, have you found that spanner yet? lol.
@@raecattell7680 😂😂
When is a registered company going to get prosecuted for threatening members of the public with legal prosecutions which they have no grounds to do?
You’d be trying to prosecute the government’s propaganda mouthpiece you’d have no chance
When someone decides to pursue them.
And Jon should be the first to do it@@thetopcat8946
I had one of those. I rang to say I don't need TV licence
He got very upset when I called them salesmen, he said they no longer get commission as they're now salaried. Told him they can't come as we've withdrawn IROA...
Not whilst they're under government control 🤬
I'll pay for a licence when Huw Edwards does prison time....
Exactly 👍🏻👍🏻
Until then the bbc license payer will be paying his.... well funding his habits through his pension.
I've not paid for 10 years and ignore everything
I won't even pay then.
@@BedsitBob never have...NEVER WILL...
Pdf files corporation
The amount of money they’ve wasted sending me these letters over the past 4 years is ridiculous.
Tax payers money!
I get one letter a year. That’s not a lot. Wonder why you’re getting so many
I was getting 1 or more a month. Telling me they were in the area, well I'm a curtain twitcher like Michael Payne and haven't seen 1 of them terrorists yet 😅
@@mistertwist one a month seems excessive. They must have a good reason to send you so many letters.
@@Anonymous56657 you for real? I don't watch the PaedBC
When cancelling always sue TV licencing for any delay in paying you the refund. I did, they failed to file a defence and I got judgment which they then tried to worm out of. They ended up paying my costs, interest plus the debt. I was hoping to get the bailiffs round to their office, but they paid up before.
You should make a video on how to do this. Most people don't know where to start.
I got a leaflet with my red envelope letter this week, it was titled 'our most affordable way to pay for a TV licence' just shows how desperate they are getting. Half a million ppl cancelled their licence last year and this year with Starmers tax hicks and the BBC's support of Hue Edwards it's going to be even more.
But it's your 'must have pass to a world of entertainment'. Haha. Shove it.
Maybe half a million have cancelled their license but that doesn’t include many who have just stopped paying like myself, I would suggest the number is far higher than admitted, they are panicking as the snouts in the trough will end that’s why they have employed Capita goons at great cost to bully and harass us, bring it on.
@@roberthughes9527 Another TH-camr calculated that they lost £78 million through cancellations last year. That is not a small amount.
Just cancelled mine after 3 years not watching BBC. Paid £16.50 cancellation fee and have just received my first threatening letter. Seems like it's going to be a long journey. Possibly the only finish is when the BBC is cancelled.
Did you see Lee Anderson tear up his reminder letter on stage at the ReformUK conference in front of 4000 people!?
It was Brilliant but not done at the conference watched it today. It's on one of his short videos on his TH-cam page last week think it was 😊
@@laceandwhisky I was there
@@laceandwhiskyIt was today at the conference..👍
I saw him do it at the conference today
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Got the same, same date, unfortunately I have a hospital appointment that day. Sorry BBC.
You're putting your health ahead of the BBC's needs??? Shame on you!!!
@@Arckivio I know, seriously thinking of cancelling the appointment, after all the BBC is more important 😔.
I'll be out taking my snail for a walk 😂
They won't show up anyway.
Keep up the good work of informing those who may feel threatened by these provocative letters!
People were scared back in the 70's as it was embarrassing to be caught without a tv licence when we only had three channels,but now there is brilliant tv but not on the . BBC
Unlimited!!! That’s the number of times the GOONS will try and call. 😡😡😡
Once in 4 years in my case. They must have got the idea it was a waste of their time.
Send a letter reply the first time simply saying you don't need one, and any further contact will be reported as harassment. Enclose an invoice for the time you spent writing the letter, the time you spent preparing the invoice, the materials used (paper, pen, printer ink, or whatever), cost of the stamp, and the time (& petrol expenses?) taking the letter to the postbox/post office. Charge your time at a minimum of about £16 an hour, (average wage) or more if you are paid more.
CJC youve obviously had a tough time lately. It will get better. Please bear in mind that you are really helping a lot of people out - me included 👍. I hope that someone kind walks into your life. Best wishes to you
Seriously you should ask BlackBeltBarrister if you have grounds to sue the BBC for harassment. That would be a very interesting legal precedent.
Its already been tried, a guy took them to court and the judge ruled that the BBC must give people the option to tell them they dont need a tv licence but they can harass as much as they want otherwise, thats why they put the no needed licence number in place a few years ago because of that court case.
Would be interesting if they got together with Martin Lewis and made it a mass game of send in a letter to your local mp to stop the harassment...
I wonder if there is class action case against TV Licensing & the PR firms, they hire for breaching the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations (2008).
People are being pressured into buying TV Licenses (via door to door sales reps with over authoritative/intimidating titles), TV Licensing are arguably using scare tactics to convince people that they need a license , constantly contacting people and pestering them into a buying license, keeping important information about the service hidden or obscured (i.e. vague guidelines around who actually needs to pay for a TV License).
he already has, but its possibly another case if enough people put it together. ignore what paul says as laws can be changed
It's outsourced to a company called Capita.
Demanding money with menaces and sending threatening letters (so regular they are harassment) IS against the law. I am REALLY surprised that somebody has never tried to sue them in court
and watch "TV License Goon Fail & Told to do one - bailiff bailiffs"
We need to chip in to fund a lawsuit against the BBC for harassment, because individually we can’t afford to do this …
CJC needs an OBE. Top bloke. 😊
In 6 years I have only had one goon visit,just said no thankyou and goodbye.,haven't been back since.😊
and me !
I thing they only come outside london
I just posted the same...6 years ago was first and only visit in current house!
He's right, if they can't get a sale they won't waste time in future trying
@@blahmcblahface3965 They must get hefty commission I think, because they used to come round every day for months on end but I would not answer the door. Times they would come would vary from around 3 O'clock and 9.30pm! I eventually let this guy come in to see I only have the pc hooked up to my monitor. Didn't pester me for 2 years, then again started to enforce their regimental door knocking routine until I told them to go way personally. Over 10 years ago! Still get the letters though!
We've had 2 visits (no thank you, door closed) and yesterday we got an even more 'scary scary woowoo' letter with even more detail about what we can't watch (we don't watch any of the things listed however they were lies as if we wanted to, we could, as long as the programmes weren't live streamed). It always tickles me how the letters state that even if you tell them, you can still expect a visit. I did used to feel 'scared' by these, now I laugh and have a 'yeah right, bring it on' attitude. Thanks for these videos.
I cancelled my direct debit over 6 months ago & wrote & told them, I no longer need a licence, they replied & said my address was no noted that i do not require a licence & they will review in 12 months time. Thankfully, I haven't heard anything from them. All thanks to you Jon. Cheers mate !!
The moment that 12 months is up, you'll hear from them. Trust me. I did the same thing and they said they wouldn't contact for two years. As soon as that was up, the letters started coming again.
Had one of them the other day straight in the bin!!
You can't put tv licence enforcement officers in the bin!!! Or at the very least, you shouldn't tell anyone when you do.
I'm saving mine and am proposing to complain/sue for harrassment
Utterly ridiculous tax! If I was still in the UK, the only live stream I ever watch is Sky Sport coverage streamed online, of the Tour de France….why in the name of jeebus is in any way anything to do with the BBC?
It is NOT a licence, it is an unfairly implemented tax.
I've been getting my threatening letters for the last three years.
Think about it!
I do not owe them a single penny and yet I'm still getting a stupid letter from these people every month without fail.
How is this not considered to be harrassment?
Why hasn't this been challenged by one of the human rights online Orgs.
Needs to be!
Totally agree
There are going to be a lot of OAPs who will be scared by these tactics, especially if they do not know, have not watched your entertaining and informative videos. Luckily I have, and feel much safer about these threats. I too am recieving these despicable and threatening letters, but having watched you on you tube, I feel that I am pretty much prepared.
Me too!
I cancelled my tv tax about 5 years ago, I got a goon at the door 2 days later the other half told her to get lost, next thing she had her face pressed into the window trying to see if the Tv was on, I hit he window and it shocked her as she ran off.. lol. Never had a letter from them in all this time.
i live in jersey.... and actually got a knock ! i was amazed ! he had the tablet, the lanyard, i asked who he was, he said..... i just replied " no thanks" and shut the door.
Stay strong.
My first two years without a TV Licence comes up next January. But today they sent me a ‘reminder’ - 4 months before the anniversary. Basically a veiled threat with the usual menaces, requiring me to go through the whole No Licence Required rigmarole again. Probably hoping I won’t spot their tricky reverse yes/no questions. All they have to do is ask if my circumstances have changed [no]. They seem to firmly believe I am lying. They must think I am a BBC TV presenter. Despicable.
I got one of those today, 4 months too early. They must be getting desperate.
Dont bother with the no licence needed farce...
@@clawrence6190 yes, they have reduced the valid period of a No Licence Required Declaration to only a year. So now my next “review” is Sept 2025. I am so glad I’m close to 75 yo.
Thanks ChilliJon, keep chipping at the wood and hopefully those who are frightened will gain courage by cancelling the TV licence
I’ve said it before Chilli but you should but you should be declared a national treasure!
I have loads of these,over 7 years of not paying the telly tax, I ve got over eighty .they just repeat over time.
My postie, now, just throws them on the outhouse floor. They're forming a carpet. My only fear is that some do gooder might notice the carpet and smash the door down. Well, if society wants me to carefully process all its unsolicited mail then it's going to have to pay me. I've gone all Quentin Crisp with it.
These letters are sent out in the hundreds and thousands daily by a marketing company who have no connection to the enforcement division. That's why no-one ever visits on the dates stated on the letter.
The wording on the letters have been checked and double checked by legal departments so there's little chance of winning a harassment case against them.
If you don't need a licence just ignore the letters and don't get in touch with TVL.
Exactly , unless it personally addressed to myself , not TO LEGAL OCCUPIER , will continue to ignore .
I got 1 today; telling me they will come on or arround the 5th October. I have added my letter to my filing envelope, which is very, very, very thick. I have been waiting for their visits for over 2 years now.
Trust me they will not turn up it’s just lies
I've been waiting 3 years and 9 months. Needless to say, they never turn up. So far, I've had 42 threat-o-grams off the weasels.
6 Years and counting... Been collecting the letters for the last two years
Enforcement officer is the legal title of what we commonly call a bailiff. These people are not bailiffs and so are misrepresenting their role
The are sales people nothing else & I don’t buy anything at my door or give out any details of mine plus I have cctv they would run I have been waiting almost 7 years now just the same letters = no visits
they cant enforce anything, they are sales people using loose threats...
Traffic Wardens are now titled 'Civil Enforcement Officers' .
They walk around council run car parks and parking meters , hoping to catch a driver without a parking ticket , or an expired one , as well as hoping to ticket a vehicle for having a tyre touching a double yellow line 😡
It's another money making racket run by councils ......
@@keithawhosoever5384man, grow the hell up. Without parking enforcement no one would ever be able to park anywhere.
I suffer from PTSD, panic attacks and anxiety disorder, i don’t use any BBC services but the threats and letters makes my mental issues worse and really distress me.
STOP opening them.. simply place into a bundle... they arent addressed to you....
These letters are sent out in the hundreds and thousands daily by a marketing company who have no connection to the enforcement division. That's why no-one ever visits on the dates stated on the letter.
The wording on the letters have been checked and double checked by legal departments so there's little chance of winning a harassment case against them.
If you don't need a licence just ignore the letters and don't get in touch with TVL.
Tell your mp....
Like the Starmer regime , and the regimes before him , the BBC is just their propaganda machine who prey on the fears of the general public .
Fear can be seen as 'False Events Appearing Real' .
Bin every letter without opening them . 😊
Exactly as one replied is your legal name occupier lol😅
As I understand it, it costs the BBC £6 million pounds for Capita to run TV Licensing, a total waste. That equates to roughly 35,000 license payers. It just doesn't make sense. Do they really claw all that back from prossicutions? I would be very surprised if they got a quarter of that back.
They get people scared so they renew the liscense.
Indirectly they do. Because the threat of enforcement keeps millions paying
@greggrimer354 my parents pay for one and don't even have a TV because of these threats
Thanks, you saved me from cutting my fingers.
I’m constantly expecting a visit . 5 years free now I think .
Did you see Lee Anderson rip his letter up at the Reform conference? Nice one. 😂
Had one of these only with different date of visit. Dirty tactics. Hated bullies at school. Have to stand up to this bullying.
Same here .
The goons recently gave me a date for a visit, but came the date before. My porch door is always locked, and I don’t have a bell or knocker. They tapped several times, but I ignored them. They then went around to my back door to no avail. They repeated this same procedure three times, over one hour intervals.
Jon, you’ve said before that the goons can’t go to our back door.
this wretched extortion racket is just one of the many, many things wrong with this country. Can you imagine if this were the other way round. If you repeatedly wrote hundreds of letters in red ink to the BBC saying "you should give me some money, or i'm going to come round to your home and have a few words with you". How many letters before the police came to your house to find out if you're a potential terrorist.
Send a few boys round of course to show you mean business :) Yeh if everyone objected to paying the bbc they should all do it then it would have to stop! I wonder if anyone has actually sued the bbc successfully over this but we don't get to know about it? Same as the unlawful dismissal of peoples jobs for not accepting an injection!
They have a cheek to be honest after more bad press in light of the current scandal...
My threat was the 5th of September (ignored) Got one today offensive but no threat of a visit. People who post "offensive " posts on twitter or Facebook get sent to jail because somebody says they have committed a hurty crime. If I told the police I was offended by these threatening letters they would investigate me while somewhere a kid gets stabbed.
Jon, maybe put a freedom of information request in to see if tv licensing holds a tv license at its various offices and in its supply chain 🙃
Should send a letter back with an invoice for your time wasted waiting in for them 🙂
I'm born 1946, on Pension Credit & one of the few 'entitled' to a free licence. I don't even want a free one, but they still harass me with all this pointless BS through my letterbox.
I don’t have a car. I look forward to my threatening letters from DVLA threatening to send their enforcement officers round because I don’t have a tax disc registered at this address. Perhaps I should inform them that I don’t need one. I haven’t got a dog either (or a fish for those who remember Monty Python).
Sadly I failed to tell the police that I don't need a shotgun license, I'm waiting for a visit from them to check.
DVLA don’t send a threatening letter. My RFL is due at the end of this month and I’ve received the standard reminder.
As you can only renew 7 days before it’s due, I’ll renew in a few days.
Don’t watch live TV, haven’t watched the Beeb in decades, so I don’t have a licence.
They can Foxtrot Oscar.
To be quite honest I am sick and tired of receiving these letters every couple of months
Just bin them unopened .
I returned my latest threat , writing on the unopened envelope , " Please return to Sender . Unsolicited mail " . 😊
Got this letter too so I filed it with the others. I will be in on the 25th September but I do not legally required a tv licence just like you lovely man.😆
No-one legally requires a licence.
I got one of the red envelope ones the other day, it's still sat here unopened. 5yrs of investigation and I'm still 'The Legal Occupier', their investigative team must be the worst on the planet.
No visits yet and I only live about 10 minutes away from a Crapita office building.
Why dont you just tell them you are the illegal occupier and the legal occupier is overseas and shut the door
Had that letter at least twice. Nobody turned up, as usual.
I've had three visits. The first I just said In reply to "Are you Mr ******", "Who are you? , answer "TV Licensing", so... "Have you made an appointment, (No) goodbye", shut door. The other two were handwritten postcards put through the door (both times I was in btw). Seven years and probably 40 letters now. Phrrr.
This is how do it. Say nothing and shut the door.
They're keeping the post office in business,....unfortunately. THIS MUST END,.....legal assistance required....
The letters are hilarious 😂
I have a nice collection building up, and when they do eventually turn up, I shall invite them in and harass them like they have “the legal occupier” (me)
I haven’t watched tv since I left school 25 years ago, I have a big tv for TH-cam and PlayStation and very much looking forward to them trying to tell me I need a license for that 😂
Love your content dude, keep spreading the knowledge ☺️🤘
Cancelled my license three years ago. Had numerous threatening letters since (just addressed to ”The Legal Occupier”) including “Final Investigation” ones, and those asking “ will you be in on…..?” I tear every letter to shreds and put them in the recycling bin.
Received this letter today lol.
Same..... so scared.....
Lmao
How often do you get them?
@@Anonymous56657 around 6 to 8 a year. Never had a visit though.
They all go straight in the bin. I cancelled my direct debit and even though the licence runs for a few more months the threatening letters started already. Disgusting
Received loads of those letters much to my amusement, but there is a new one doing the rounds I got yesterday
Clear window says 10-DAY WINDOW.
"We are giving you a 10-day window to get correctly licenced". These days, there are many more TV channels to enjoy. But to watch TV live, you need to be covered by a TV licence. As this address does not have a TV licence, it is now under investigation. Normally, you could expect a visit at any time. However, to help you get correctly licenced, we are putting your case ON HOLD
for the next 10 days". Blah blah blah blah blah.
I have had so many threatening letter telling me I am under investigation, getting a visit, could be jailed that I am completely numb to every single threat. If I received a letter once every 20 years I might take them seriously. Next threatening letter please Paedophile Corporation.
I had this one a couple of weeks ago; new design to add to my collection 👍
@@kayrb2475 They are trying every tactic including grovelling and bribery to get people to buy a licence, but I vowed 6 years ago to never ever give the Paedophile Corporation another penny ever again.
Iv received half a dozen threatening letters from tv licence in the last 3 months despite going on their website and answering their questions .if it wasnt for you id be more anxious than i am . So thank you. ❤️👍
I completely ignore them and get one every 3 or 4 months. Don't enter into discussion 👍
*I had a flyer from Iceland through my letterbox today. Now I’m worried they might send the boys round to see if I’ve got any Crispy Chicken Breast Dippers in my freezer and I can’t find any reference to the “No Crispy Chicken Breast Dippers Required Declaration” on their website. HELP ME JON!* 😱
Have been watching for some time and love the videos! I do have a question, I apologise if it's been answered before, here goes:
As stated "You can receive a maximum fine of £1000, plus court costs and COMPENSATION" Errrr who the hell is receiving this compensation? The BBC? What for? The emotional distress of someone not paying for a licence? Are they having a laugh?
Just had the same one, in the bin now, keep sending my letters at there cost
It was great to watch lee andersons reform uk speech in birmingham where he produced a tv licence letter that he had received and he tore it up on stage. Well worth a watch.
Please make sure you like the video and more and more people can get the correct information.
I got so sick of the threatening letters , that I decide to get a solicitors letter stating “This is intimidation, and Harassment “. If they continued we would take it to court - that was over 2 years ago .
I also removed implied rights of access to my property ( as I have a fence , and gate access )
Apparently millions and millions.
My 2 year “exemption” ran out in August, I received a letter telling me I’d need to re-do my “declaration” or receive a visit. I decided not to renew my “exemption” as it’s none of their business. I only watch my blu rays, DVD’s and a bit of TH-cam. No live stuff, no BBC filth. Last week I received another letter stating I’d not renewed again. I may expect a visit. I’m looking forward to my “no thanks” on opening my door (if I can be arsed)
I've never paid the TV tax, and now I've reached the age where I'd get a free pass, but I still don't play their game, their letters don't even get opened, do not engage with them, there is nothing to fear, there's nothing they can do when you refuse to engage.
There is no free pass for the license. They were going to introduce it, they said, but decided to make it even more expensive!
I get one every month. I had one asking if I would be in. They stood me up. Story of my life.
My latest letter asked if I'd be in on 18th September. I was and no one came. Such a pity as I had a pot of tea and some coffee & walnut cake ready to entertain my important visitor.
Keep up the good work, Mr Carne. As I have said in a previous post I am on my 9th letter and the 9th letter was in a red envelope which is supposed to scare me I suppose. I can imagine it will scare some people.
This is just harassment.
This just makes me stand stronger in saying defund the BBC.
I GOT ONE OF THOSE THIS WEEK, IT'S NUMBER 41 THEY HAVE SENT ME
41 letters, have you had a visit yet?
Dam you beat me I only have 37 must catch up.
Start a crowd funder to get Capita prosecuted for harassment - I'd happily donate.
These letters must cost a fortune. Surely they'd be better investing that money in decent programmes that people might want to watch?
I did a rough calculation and it seems to be costing them more than they get back.
I enjoy receiving them knowing it costs them money.
My letter said they were coming on 19th September .. never arrived ... a goon appeared at my door 3 weeks ago told him I did not require a licence and shut the door .. then 10 days ago letter arrived ... this is what they are doing with the licence tax harassing members of the public constantly ... I am sure they have my address on a loop of these bloody letters
What I have never understood is why the commercial channels have put up with this for so long and not brought pressure on the BBC to stop hassling their viewers and allow them to watch their channels without the govt approved licence.
Yes the same stupid letters keep arriving to my letter box from bullshit tv licensing, I like you had my final warning of my investigation but unlike you my next letter didn’t go back to the beginning of starting an investigation again lol, the threatening letters keep coming and with them my resolve to ignore them just increases 10 fold, like you Jon I am legit and don’t watch anything that requires a tv licence, I have more than enough on Netflix, Amazon Prime and TH-cam, I wouldn’t watch anything on MSM if they paid me lol😊😅😂
Reading other comments on your videos CJC, it's a mixed bag with the no licence declaration. I have done it, and not heard a thing from them in 5 years. No letters, no visits. Just an email reminder every 2 years to do the declaration again. They do say they may come around and check, but if they did I would just say no thanks and shut the door. Of course, it's up to the person responsible what they want to do.
Would you advise the police you don't need a gun licence?
Do you advise the police you don't need a firearm's licence?
@@MikeEves
I made it clear that it's up to the individual. I would prefer not to declare every 2 years but in my experience it leads to a peaceful life.
I got one "Will you be in on 2nd October" to which I wrote "that's for me to know and you to find out" before putting "return to sender at BBC's cost" on the envelope! The address at Darlington.
Wish I'd have thought of the "if you are Shakira" gag! 😚😂🤣
If the return address is a PO box in Darlington I know it is BBC/TV Licencing so I don't even open the letter - just black out my address (always to "The Legal Occupier" even though we've been here since1998) and write RETURN TO SENDER on the front and repost.
I’ve gone online to not renew the Tv licence. As a previous comment I made, it was my late partner who watched live Tv all of the time. I now just watch catch up. Online, and I screened shot all parts of the online form, they said thank you, you will be contacted in the next few days and was given a cancellation code. We will see. Thank you Chilli Jon for such informative videos 😊
I haven't paid the BBC tax for 5 years now and if I had kept all the letters I have been receiving I would have a pile reaching the moon. I don't even bother to open the letter, it goes straight in the bin. Never had anyone, so far, knocking at my door. I wish they did in order to have the pleasure to shut it on their nose without saying a word.
17th September for me. Into the bin went the threatogram. Heading for my 4th anniversary with no licence (as I play by the rules), no live broadcast tv for me.
Thak you for giving us the information and me the confidence to be licence free.
Their letters make great fire lighters when crumpled. IGNORE them. Protection from Harassment Act 1997, serve notice of their harassment then report them to the Police and consider issuing a private civil claim.
Nope... police wont be interested as soon as you tell them its the bbc.... its all backed by government...
@@robtheplodthat's why you don't use the police, you start a civil prosecution with evidence of harassment and find a judge who will accept the case
I rang them up after my last letter, introduced myself as the occupier, (they couldn't even be bothered to find my surname) reminded them that I canceled my TV license due to certain people the BBC had hired, I then told them I had removed their right of implied access to my home. That was 5 years ago, haven't had a single letter or visit since.
Did you know that Shakira's Hips Don't Lie video here on the tube has almost 1.5 BILLION views?
As someone once commented on that very video many years ago.. "Sometimes in your head, there's just a voice saying Shakira Shakira.."
Hi Jon having now watched several of your excellent videos I’ve now cancelled my tv license,I suddenly came to the conclusion that I don’t require one,the only one thing I watched live was GB News & I can listen to that on the digital radio so I thought sod it cancel it .I think you should be nominated for OBE or MBE etc for the work you have done on this subject and have put to us
but sadly would fall on deaf ears,please keep up your excellent work and look forward to the next videos..
They have started sending me threats again. I have a load of these threatening letters. Thinking I'll file a claim against them under the Protection from Harassment Act.
I have had a visit form a Goon this morning, I was busy and didn't answer the door. They left a shiny red leaflet stating "Do Not Ignore" "We believe there is no license at this address.. etc" Straight in the bin!
I’ve just had letter number twelve with a window showing in big red letters saying An investigation has been authorised at this address, for all to see, When a barrister takes them to task for intimidation and harassment I will be first in the queue as I can feel a claim coming on. So come on you legal eagles sort it out
I have had two posted letters and today, a card declaring "I have been" from an enforcement officer. They didn't have my name, just this premises our records show has no TV licence. They threaten to keep visiting if I do not respond and buy a licence or answer my door. I live on the second floor of a block of flats, they cannot see into my property unless they have a 3 metre ladder! I will simply not answer the door if Im in, just ignore them. I was at work and not home when they came today so no chance of me answering!
This whole TVL system is just outdate. Like (you may not agree with this list) smoking in pubs, fox hunting and child labour - this king of thing should be made a thing of the past and the BBC should be set free to make money on a global basis.
They do make money on a global basis, they own other channels and BBC companies that make money worldwide through sales of programs, subscriptions, and advertising.
I’ve been living on my own since I was 16 years old. I amnow 57. I have never had a TV licence and I never will have one, but what I’m not understanding is why do you get these letters every month? when I get them probably once every six or seven months!
I fill the form in every 2 years and never hear anything from them, no visit, nothing.
Bit silly doing that... you are authorising them to keep your details.....
@@robtheplodwhat details nothing to hide
I have had a number exactly like that over the years. They have never once actually turned up. It is just part of their merry go round of standard threats.
If it were just sales - that would be aggravating enough. This is protectionism, though. 'If you buy a TV License - we will halt our contribution to your increased anxiety.' 'Watch out on the 25th of September! If we don't catch you, then, we could catch you before then or after then! If you open your door to the outside, for any reason, we could well be waiting for you. But if you give us money, and you keep doing it, we won't be loitering and threatening you.'
Protectionism should be illegal. A legitimate business model should not be allowed to be based upon the exchange of money for not doing something that you shouldn't be doing anyway (namely - hurting others).
Cancelled my TV licence 3 years ago. I've always updated them that I no longer need it. They've wrote to me asking do I still require one. I have replied no and they've never actually called, never received any letters apart from the one asking if I still require one. Keep going john
Other countries laugh in disbelief hearing we need to pay tax to watch TV. How embarrassing for us
A lot countries pay TV Tax. It's buried in other taxes.
Some do, but many others have a similar regime. For example, Germany, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Japan and Pakistan. But most countries have now abolished it
When you say other countries you just mean America don't you
@@mushypeeze3545, well, as things stand in the uk, I will not pay the bbc their golden wages and pensions!
Live tv only.... who watches live tv these days? Most people dont need a licence
Just had my latest "will you be in" letter addressed to the"legal owner". Quite happy to receive these wasting there (or rather licence payers) money.
Send back to their address with no stamp