As the person who manages the warlock sims, this was a great breakdown of the two specs covered. Missing Fire destro which was recently buffed on PTR to be viable. Great time to be a lock.
Small note on feral: We still get wildstrike procs even with Elemental sharpening stone. As a feral wildstrikes apply an aura wich gives autoattacks, not a weapon buff.
As retri paladin I wonder if they have tried to go 6p of T1 and 2p of T2, so that we go seal twisting + judgement without have to be worry about (im talking about slow weapon). And then I have thought of exodin with fast 2h weapon, you know how good exodin is with t1 6p, they had only to apply one of two seals again and again, sometimes didnt have time to use crusader strike or exorcism at all but they never cast judgement. So T1 6p with 2p of T2 will possible to spam judgement (big boost).. can it be too strong as exodin?
Any leveling build / talent tree you recommend for someone who wants to level rogue and not feel like pure combat? I used to level with an ambush build in TBC but can't seem to find anyone running it on classic / sod. Would appreciate help.
@emilwetterlindhofgard5182 I mean that's also because MS is a PVP ability. The beauty of it is the debuff. I can see arms being viable in AQ because the healing debuff is useful for some of the trash in there.
@Hiebly Not a bad idea at all. I would like to see it do something like "Removes the healing debuff of Mortal Strike, but increases its base damage by 50%"
I know at a glance that enhance t2 looked good, but once you got into the math and details it was actually garbage. 2p wasn't actually increasing your maelstrom casts as dw by a big enough amount, and wasn't doing anything at all for 2h. 6p was even less impactful than 2p. 4p is actually decent.
We ELE shams have been in the lowest tier for 3 phases now. WTF are blizz even doing at this point? Just give us some lightningbolt proc/ramp up/stacking. We never use LB in pvp so it will keep the balance. We had our free ticket into MC because of the FR-totem.
Why tf did they crap on the enh t2 set bonus? More passive Lightning Shield damage and not having to spend gcds on refreshing it vs LIGHTNING BOLT GATLING GUN OF DOOM?!
it's at like 4.7k. #3 on this doc docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
Shaman getting shit on while paladin getting all the love, what was all the fuzz about alliance getting horn of lordearon, I guess this is what blizz calls balance.
u can believe there isn't a chance, but I will hope and continue to provide any feedback to blizz I can that I'd like to dps as either arcane or frost as a mage in at least ONE phase of the end game raiding and not stuck as fire the whole time. SoD is not a #nochanges types of game, u got classic era for that.
wonder how many paladins have been disliking this video 🤣 absolute schizo players sending classic devs death threats because of these screendumps of #1 ret DPS
Hunter should get a buff. 3 DPS specs, still C tier. With 1 viable spec. Rogues have multiple viable specs, sim 20% higher and have the best tanking spec as well. Yet hunters got a 5% damage nerf for no reason.
At least hunter being weakest class means that we wont get anymore nerfs. Already had like 30 since sod released and that 5% nerf from p4 to p5 is last one hopefully
@@OatsMealz not like we will be tanking or healing but should be up there melee hunter got nerfed into the ground but we should be out dpsing a ret pally :)
Blizz hates hunters and want to keep them at the bottom. Hope you got a good raid group cause i dont see good raids bringing more then 1 hunter per raid now
kinda sucks being a dps class that isn't allowed to dps sure blizzard plays horde cos the hunters pissed them off frost trapping the bridge in AV pow instant hotfix just nerf to our trap
@@kyeema-of-the-shadows Bro, hunters have been S tier since phase 1. If they perform really bad in phase 5 I’m sure they will recieve buffs. So far we can only go off of sims and we all know it’s not a reality
th-cam.com/video/33jVMIVVk0M/w-d-xo.html just now b tier even NOHITJEROME says no good things th-cam.com/video/FvuhAKJdB3w/w-d-xo.html but I do hope you are right
@emilwetterlindhofgard5182 hunter was umplayable in p2 doing tank level damage , what crack are you smoking ? Hunter was far from top in p3 , this place was for rogue and wars. Hunter is not top in p4, the honor going to rogue once again And still , Hunter got a nerf in p5
Paladin...the most hybrid has everything class should not be top dps ..load of crap... Plate Heals Dispels Bubble Freedom Rush Crit+++ Stun Lay on hands Buffs Can use shields 2 hand Can holy shock one shot from range. The class literally made for the whining noobs given everything to let noobs have something to play.. And now top DPS... Pure DPS classes like hunter should be top...they can't fkn heal or bubble or any of that shit
Great vid, really well presented for each class
As the person who manages the warlock sims, this was a great breakdown of the two specs covered. Missing Fire destro which was recently buffed on PTR to be viable. Great time to be a lock.
can I have the link to that Master Demonoligist/Ruin build?
Quick and informative as always, thanks for the video
Small note on feral: We still get wildstrike procs even with Elemental sharpening stone. As a feral wildstrikes apply an aura wich gives autoattacks, not a weapon buff.
Oh, that's actually sick
@@mkjeppesen does that only work for ferals?
Yes only works for feral
@@donsayeOnly stones it seems like because +25 agility is direct enchanting enchant which gives benefit right?
@@claytongiampaolo7848 we dont attack with our wep, just our paws. and we have aura on us so thats why we benefit from both.
Great video my Sabre slash is pumping but that backstab build looks decent now might have to switch out 🤟🏼
As retri paladin I wonder if they have tried to go 6p of T1 and 2p of T2, so that we go seal twisting + judgement without have to be worry about (im talking about slow weapon).
And then I have thought of exodin with fast 2h weapon, you know how good exodin is with t1 6p, they had only to apply one of two seals again and again, sometimes didnt have time to use crusader strike or exorcism at all but they never cast judgement. So T1 6p with 2p of T2 will possible to spam judgement (big boost).. can it be too strong as exodin?
thanks for all the research
feral has always been able to use a weapon stone on their weapon. their wild strikes is a buff and not the actual affect from the weapon, btw!
Any leveling build / talent tree you recommend for someone who wants to level rogue and not feel like pure combat? I used to level with an ambush build in TBC but can't seem to find anyone running it on classic / sod. Would appreciate help.
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no info on regular Fire Destro?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
It's good! Recently buffed on PTR. It'll be viable along with Demo and Aff.
@@Maxvla ok good. been fire destro for all of SoD and I wasnt lookin to change
Where's the Fire Lock info ?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
Mage only gained 180 dps full bis p4 to p5. We got gutted on a t1 set bonus snd gutted harder in t2
With BWL and ZG bringing with the some of the most iconic 2 handed swords in the game I really was hoping they'd buff arms dps.
Mortal strike’s scaling sucks and they will never change a core ability like that.
You get 2h fury though 😊
@emilwetterlindhofgard5182 I mean that's also because MS is a PVP ability. The beauty of it is the debuff. I can see arms being viable in AQ because the healing debuff is useful for some of the trash in there.
@@xsteelfeverx8004 they could just do what they did with backstab for rogues, add a rune that increases the dmg against non-player targets, easy
@Hiebly Not a bad idea at all. I would like to see it do something like "Removes the healing debuff of Mortal Strike, but increases its base damage by 50%"
I know at a glance that enhance t2 looked good, but once you got into the math and details it was actually garbage. 2p wasn't actually increasing your maelstrom casts as dw by a big enough amount, and wasn't doing anything at all for 2h. 6p was even less impactful than 2p. 4p is actually decent.
We ELE shams have been in the lowest tier for 3 phases now. WTF are blizz even doing at this point? Just give us some lightningbolt proc/ramp up/stacking. We never use LB in pvp so it will keep the balance. We had our free ticket into MC because of the FR-totem.
Pain..
....Just no mention of frost mage I guess
Always. In my almost 20 years of playing, it was only #1 once, during BFA for a short bit. It always gets forgotten about.
Why tf did they crap on the enh t2 set bonus?
More passive Lightning Shield damage and not having to spend gcds on refreshing it vs LIGHTNING BOLT GATLING GUN OF DOOM?!
love the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigly text
what about reg destro?
it's at like 4.7k. #3 on this doc
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSISr_TcxTp4id35EELbBJ6pnuT5mmXtaEsGKSJZf5yk5FuL0sPgVOL0ESiU82Y3wYQi0iA8872pJAC/pubhtml#
Shaman getting shit on while paladin getting all the love, what was all the fuzz about alliance getting horn of lordearon, I guess this is what blizz calls balance.
WTF? Shamans Perform p2,p3 and p4. Paladin badest dd all the time xd
That’s crazy I don’t see shockadin on the list
He doesn't know you still maintain WS with a weapon stone. This has been a thing since P1
Don’t get my hopes up as a Ret pally
Warrior doesn’t ww because you are stancing into glad over zerker
Oh I saw the glad stance in the rotation but I thought you were swapping into it over Battle for the passive bonuses, but that makes way more sense.
@@Kippzo can you show the 2h rotation thats in there?
imagine doing 6k dps when players have 4k health xD
SOD seems balanced haha
I think that's why there is a damage reduction (at least in BGs) for PvP
wotlk naxx numbers were around 7k at the start
what about tanks and heals
Buff warrior
Blizzard need to fix warriors mann
how are you getting 6.5k dps on ret? Whats your rotation on simms
Everyone is
Buff up spriest, 2H warrior and ele
Hunters has had their time.
I honestly hate playing fire mage. I hope this new phase brings frost and arcane into play for pve content.
Not a chance arcane is for healing and frost is for pvp
u can believe there isn't a chance, but I will hope and continue to provide any feedback to blizz I can that I'd like to dps as either arcane or frost as a mage in at least ONE phase of the end game raiding and not stuck as fire the whole time. SoD is not a #nochanges types of game, u got classic era for that.
where P5 hunter guide?
Ret is sheit, all those simulations are so damn wrong, but you gonna find out the hard way
Sim Says Ret Paladin maxes out at 5k
the two dps specs of shaman are literally at the bottom tier and the huntards are crying here for buffs, go figure
wonder how many paladins have been disliking this video 🤣 absolute schizo players sending classic devs death threats because of these screendumps of #1 ret DPS
Ele shaman all day...burn rune change is nasty good...minium +300SP.
Imagine giving DFT to a feral over a warrior
Fucked the healing spec shadow priest for 0 damage nice bliz
Good shadow shouldn’t be healing lmao wayyyy too much healing
Enhancement Sharmans cannot be buffed due to their broken capabilities in PVP
Hunter should get a buff. 3 DPS specs, still C tier. With 1 viable spec.
Rogues have multiple viable specs, sim 20% higher and have the best tanking spec as well.
Yet hunters got a 5% damage nerf for no reason.
Crybaby hunters
Yet warlocks hadda run resto p3, aff p4, now have to change to demo p5
@@mattmckern3644 crybaby warlock? hunters had around 13-14 nerfs throughout all phases now already
@@mattmckern3644 crybaby lock, hunter spec that viable always change every phase since P1 from BM, and nerf every blue post
@@mattmckern3644 hunters went spellpower MM or BM, then melee, then MM, and now its survival. 4 different specs for 4 phases, with all new abilities.
At least hunter being weakest class means that we wont get anymore nerfs. Already had like 30 since sod released and that 5% nerf from p4 to p5 is last one hopefully
are you blind? the tier list literally shows the 2 dps specs of shaman at the bottom, and yet you call hunter the weakest
2hnd Shaman FOR LIFE BABY!!!
1:28 rogue the only one i care
God it’s funny going to these comment sections and just looking at all the crying idiots, it’s like the forums all over
hunters are the only pure dps class so they should be in the top list 1000%
Buff stick
Respec other class boy
Then every other class would get cooked in pvp.
Never understood this argument. Why should a ranged dmg dealer in mail armor with tons of utility be the top dps?
@@OatsMealz not like we will be tanking or healing but should be up there melee hunter got nerfed into the ground but we should be out dpsing a ret pally :)
Man fk blizzard... whats with them and hunters I swear
Blizz hates hunters and want to keep them at the bottom. Hope you got a good raid group cause i dont see good raids bringing more then 1 hunter per raid now
@@105Strike105 and they will have to spec true shot aura
SOD sounds so awful 😅
What’s awful about it? Lmao it’s pretty fun actually, it gets boring playing the same classic over and over and over
I see a lot of hunters crying 😊
kinda sucks being a dps class that isn't allowed to dps sure blizzard plays horde cos the hunters pissed them off frost trapping the bridge in AV pow instant hotfix just nerf to our trap
@@kyeema-of-the-shadows Bro, hunters have been S tier since phase 1. If they perform really bad in phase 5 I’m sure they will recieve buffs.
So far we can only go off of sims and we all know it’s not a reality
th-cam.com/video/33jVMIVVk0M/w-d-xo.html just now b tier even NOHITJEROME says no good things th-cam.com/video/FvuhAKJdB3w/w-d-xo.html but I do hope you are right
@emilwetterlindhofgard5182 hunter was umplayable in p2 doing tank level damage , what crack are you smoking ?
Hunter was far from top in p3 , this place was for rogue and wars.
Hunter is not top in p4, the honor going to rogue once again
And still , Hunter got a nerf in p5
Buff affli and arms warrior pls
Healing teir/gear list.
Paladin...the most hybrid has everything class should not be top dps ..load of crap...
Plate
Heals
Dispels
Bubble
Freedom
Rush
Crit+++
Stun
Lay on hands
Buffs
Can use shields
2 hand
Can holy shock one shot from range.
The class literally made for the whining noobs given everything to let noobs have something to play..
And now top DPS...
Pure DPS classes like hunter should be top...they can't fkn heal or bubble or any of that shit