I guess they did use the computer voice and many of the props from DS9. McCarthy composed for that episode so I can see why it was added. It's not *quite* DS9 exactly - there's a couple of notes different, but it's enough to evoke the notion of Cardassian tech / architecture.
Janeway: "Doctor! I forgot about you!" Doctor: "How flattering." Years later, in a different timeline, and the Doctor as the ECH is recovering Voyager's crew from escape pods in a similar situation: Kim: "Everyone's on board except the captain. She's hailing us." Janeway appears on screen. Doctor, sarcastically: "Captain! I forgot about you!" Janeway: "...How flattering."
The Legacy I don’t believe the Doctor had the mobile emitter. Janeway couldn’t do anything for him beyond turning off his program. I’m not sure if she would have been able to download his program.
My favorite example highlighting her readiness to initiate self-destruct was this.. th-cam.com/video/dAVFOVgwBrY/w-d-xo.html - it's a spoof, but it does feature Kate Mulgrew.
3:48 Computer terminate self destruct sequence....system damaged unable to comply. Warp core overload in 7 seconds...warp core breach has occurred. It's been an honor serving you Captain Janewa...
the Cardassians probably had a way, but they didn't get the chance to test it. although if the wrong person tries to disarm it, there might be a failsafe to deal with "treachery"
Hmm, I seem to recall a certain large spherical battle station that had a small exhaust port, just below the main port which would effectively render the station inoperative if hit with proton torpedoes...☠️👍🏼🚀
Every time self destruct is turned on is basically Janeway saying "please kill the doctor in 5 min k thanks." Ship "got you fam, want me to count it down so the sentient guy can dread it?" Janeway "yup"
Well, once he got the mobile emitter he probably was able to evacuate too. But at this point.... It sucks that she didn't tell him, but he doesn't really have any options even if she did.
Funny how even in the original series it took at least two command officers to initiate self destruction but Janeway can do it just by giving her access codes. Fascinating
Well, the Intrepid-class were so heavily armed for a reason, they were officially built for long-range exploration but also can serve as (wink wink) combat vessels (cough cough). Maybe they thought a ship in combat might find itself in a situation where self-destruct might be needed very fast.
It could’ve been because their original first officer had control over the second activation code, but when he died and Chakotay was assigned as First officer, the computer probably couldn’t accept him as he was technically still a Maquis/fugitive of the Federation
@@Jeroscope Yeah I know it still took a captain and first officer in tng but the dominion war didn't start till the later seasons of ds9 and tng was off the air.
Can you imagine if they were able to get there hands on Dreadnought? A Second warp core, enhanced phasers weaponry, quantum and photon torpedos, regenerative sheild emitters and extra dilithium and dueterium, would have given Voyager a hell of an upgrade.
@@davidlister7590 Plus, they tried to deploy it against the Klingons when most of Starfleet itself was in the Delta Quadrant. What did Cardassia get? An orbital bombardment courtesy of Martok.
XD love this and to answer your question this was two episodes after the whole salamander baby thing. i think that episode "Threshold" was season 2 Epsiode 15 if i remember correctly. Its been like 10 years since i last watched voyager lol
Very disappointed there was no outro conversation with the people from that planet to close things out. Just bam, episode over. Voyager did that a lot.
Only squeeze so much into a 40 minute episode. However there could have been an end dialogue like "we spent some time getting to know the inhabitants....." I was similarly frustrated with a TNG episode when Barclay sent Enterprise to the centre of the galaxy to meet the Cytherians. Could have made another episode of that encounter or perhaps a later follow up. But maybe that's the point of the whole ST franchise "leave em wanting more".
Janeway always gets sidetracked -- Tries to get the ship back into local space, but endangers the ship and lives of the crew over a mega nuclear warhead or a Borg vessel. Coffee, black, indeed.
The hatches close after the escape pods are jettisoned. Starfleet has the foresight to realize that using the escape pods are not necessarily meaning that the ship is 100% due to be destroyed
I find it amusing that in all the star trek shows where they actually did a self destruct, it was a bit underwhelming, remembering Star Trek III - The Search for Spock in particular. Wondering how such an underwhelming detonation would even do a thing to the Dreadnought.
I hate that self destruct in Star Trek 3, if the Enterprise had not been so close to the Genesis planet and burned up in the atmosphere about 50% of the ship would have survived.
yea about that... insurgence did in fact show us how it looks when a warpcore explodes. THat entire rift closing detonation? Was purely the warpcore, not the rift. Thats also why in most proper ST games when a ship explodes you take quiet some damage from it because of that warpcore. Why it was so lacking in the movie? Becuase the movie is frelling old AF. They didnt have the ability nor the money of more modern stuff back then. If they would remaster it it would look a lot more dreadfull. Hell even the detonation in TNG was waaaay bigger wich also crippled the impulse drives among other systems of the saucer section given it was nearly right next to the engine section.
I would have chosen to stay on the 37’s planet even before this episode for various reasons. If the ship had ran into the 37’s planet after this incident. I bet a few people would have decided to stay.
Oof, Janeway straight up forgot that poor hologram on board when the ship was blowing up. How do you think she'd like if if she was a hologram, and was left behind on an exploding starship? Hmm? Hmmmmm?!?!
I wonder if this was the inspiration for the Dreadnought in the "Into Darkness" remake film. If there will always be a push to militarize even a miracolously humanitarian armada like the federation in Star Trek.
Interesting little plot hole. We see in both TNG and DS9 the arming and de-activating of the self destruct requires the authorization of the captain AND first officer. I guess since Chakotay was not aboard when they needed to shut down self destruct......it was convenient Jayneway's authorization was enough.
Voyager never needed the Two-man rule for self-destruct, Janeway's authorization is enough, one would assume it's because they're stranded in the Delta Quadrant rendering normal protocol obsolete.
@@AidanMillward I can understand Chakotay not having sufficient credentials for the Computer's security systems to recognize him as First Officer, but you would think that the Computer would be programmed to recognize Tuvok as next in line for First Officer position in case the original First Officer was out of commission. I know that Starfleet isn't exactly a full-fledged military organization and this has come back to bite them everytime a serious war breaks out, but they still should have a codified chain of command and all that.
The missile computer could have lied to Torres about the percentage strength of the containment field, in order to get her to give up. Even when near collapse it could have said "Containment field integrity at 97%.
the entirety of Star Trek forgets that when a ship is destroyed, all the antimatter is released, which means you should have a MASSIVE catastrophic matter-antimatter explosion each time,.. but never do. Only instance I can think of is the one time it was actually mentioned, in "Contageon" (TNG), and that wasn't even the result of the explosion, its what CAUSED it,... and still wasn't large enough of a blast
@@rkmugen Aye. DS9 & this used CGI sparingly, but didn't get the investment in VFX that Enterprise did (such as being shot all in higher def' widescreen), though DS9 & Voyager used a lot of physical models whilst Enterprise used none. There's even ways to tell which was used for a given scene. The Orville uses both physical models & CGI, as they found better results could be gained through using both. As such some 1990's methods are coming back, albeit supported by better hardware.
DS9 they can beam air into the space Miles and Julian were in..... Voyager: "......airs just a little thin in here...." "Keep me advised, Janeway out."
'Retrieve our escape pods' as if they just redocked right back in their spots when clearly when other ships have launched them clearly hull panels are ejected and simple one shot thrusters used to separate them
When Gene Roddenberry was accosted by a royal Prince of Saudi Arabia, "Mr. Roddenberry, in Star Trek, you have black people, Russians, Oriental, Scottish... even races that don't exist, like Klingons and Vulcans. But, there's not one single Muslim! Why is that?" Gene replied, "Because, Your Highness, there are no Muslims in the future"
Couldn't B'Elanna set the phaser to overload and avoided the issue of Dreadnought cutting off her life support??? Just wondering. Because when Roga Danar overloaded phasers on Enterprise-D they set off major explosions felt even on the Bridge itself.
She was using the phaser as a cutting torch for lack of a better sci fi term, it was a focused energy beam, overloading the phaser would have diffused the energy
I wonder if two box career stagnated because of the incident of insubordination aboard the Excelsior. Or being in Starfleet as long as he was by the time, he reported for duty aboard voyager I would’ve thought he would’ve been a lieutenant commander, or full commander by then. The other alternative is, due to their long lives. Vulcans remain in their ranks for a longer Duration, for the sake of some sort of career equality/inclusivity sort of thing!
Because they only get one shot at this and can't risk missing. Dreadnought has maneuvering thrusters and the reflexes of an AI. If they wait for Voyager to get to a safe distance before detonating, Dreadnought would have ample time to dodge the explosion as well.
What I never understood about this particular episode was the self destruct sequence of Voyager. Whether it be the motion picture or Star Trek the next generation, when the self destruct is activated it would take to seeing the bridge officers at least to shut it down. That should’ve been the protocol here. Not just the captain. Two Buck was also on the bridge with her. The inconsistency is a bit illusion shattering.
shut off the anti grav plating an she cant fire due to floating and or shut off the inertial dampeners an do a barrel roll an agen no shooting .. this dradnaught it stupid
I enjoyed watching Voyager. This episode wasn't very good. The underlying theme, message, is that the lives and needs of voyagers crew is subordinated to anyones eles needs, desires. For Janeway this is consistent. If it were realistic the crew would mutiny, Who would want to sign up for that group. Like a father or mother subordinating the needs of his children to others, disgraceful.
4:40 DS9 theme! Thanks, Dennis McCarthy!
Huh, never noticed that. I wonder why they decided to go with the different end theme
I guess they did use the computer voice and many of the props from DS9. McCarthy composed for that episode so I can see why it was added. It's not *quite* DS9 exactly - there's a couple of notes different, but it's enough to evoke the notion of Cardassian tech / architecture.
Janeway: I’ve set the ship to dump the warp core and self destruct.
Crew: It must be Thursday.
Janeway: "Doctor! I forgot about you!"
Doctor: "How flattering."
Years later, in a different timeline, and the Doctor as the ECH is recovering Voyager's crew from escape pods in a similar situation:
Kim: "Everyone's on board except the captain. She's hailing us."
Janeway appears on screen.
Doctor, sarcastically: "Captain! I forgot about you!"
Janeway: "...How flattering."
That would have been an awesome callback.
The Legacy I don’t believe the Doctor had the mobile emitter. Janeway couldn’t do anything for him beyond turning off his program. I’m not sure if she would have been able to download his program.
@@gabelogan5877 There is a portable backup copy of his programming, we saw this in one episode. Through that could have been added after this episode.
@@DavidKnowles0 thank you. I already knew that. I saw the episode.
@@gabelogan5877 yes, he doesn’t get it until the end of this season, as Futures End is the season 2-3 episode.
Warning: warp core breach a lot sooner than you think.
Last chance to be a hero Doctor! Better get moving!
Luckily it was set at 11 minutes instead of 10. ;)
@@badabingmike Thankfully it wasn't 6 minutes, the same 6 minutes James gave Trevelyan.
Janeway: Computer activate self..
computer: aw shit here we go again
Cracked me up!
janeway was redy to blow up the ship for any excuse that comes around XD
She did love that self destruct didn't she 😊
My favorite example highlighting her readiness to initiate self-destruct was this.. th-cam.com/video/dAVFOVgwBrY/w-d-xo.html - it's a spoof, but it does feature Kate Mulgrew.
@@alastairbrand5821 "oooh nooh yoo doon't, you're noot pinning this oout oon me. You cahn't expect me to pilot a stahship aahnd mind him!"
Lol, true.
“Janeway, blow up the damn ship!”
“You don’t have to tell me twice.”
4:27 Tuvok sitting in the Captain's chair looking like he's about to tell Captain Janeway: _"Eh! Look at me. Look at me! I'm the captain now."_
Yeah, he just wanted to sit in the "comfortable chair", just once.
@@MichaelBradley1967 Secret escape chair for the hidden voyager lander in the bottom they don't mention.
@@MrAer85 The "center chair" will never be the same after Lower Decks, "shift change on deck, get outta my chair!!!!"
"wawowewa, king in the caste king, in the castle, I have a chair I have a chair, go do this, go do this, king in the castle "
God I miss great Star Trek!
3:48 Computer terminate self destruct sequence....system damaged unable to comply. Warp core overload in 7 seconds...warp core breach has occurred. It's been an honor serving you Captain Janewa...
*Snap* "Just kidding, have a nice day."
"Did you really think I'd let my new favourite Captain die on me out here when there's so much more to see?"
Remember, engineers, always have a way to disable your planet-busters just in case they get aimed at you.
the Cardassians probably had a way, but they didn't get the chance to test it.
although if the wrong person tries to disarm it, there might be a failsafe to deal with "treachery"
Seems people always forget ti instill an OFF switch.
@@davidhenderson3400 Less forget, more intentional obscurity. Don't want your enemies to turn off your planet-buster with a simple switch, do you?
@@Scors4 No but I do want to be able to turn it off when it turns on me.
Hmm, I seem to recall a certain large spherical battle station that had a small exhaust port, just below the main port which would effectively render the station inoperative if hit with proton torpedoes...☠️👍🏼🚀
Every time self destruct is turned on is basically Janeway saying "please kill the doctor in 5 min k thanks." Ship "got you fam, want me to count it down so the sentient guy can dread it?" Janeway "yup"
Well, once he got the mobile emitter he probably was able to evacuate too. But at this point....
It sucks that she didn't tell him, but he doesn't really have any options even if she did.
The ship's computer is at least semi-sentient too.
04:00 Great Doctor moment, funny Janeway moment too. I really cared about these people when I watched this every week on TV.
How flattering.
Funny how even in the original series it took at least two command officers to initiate self destruction but Janeway can do it just by giving her access codes. Fascinating
Might be a new regulation due to the dominion war?
@@cubsfan8293 It would be due to the Borg threat. It still took a Captain and a Commander to activate self destruct in TNG.
Well, the Intrepid-class were so heavily armed for a reason, they were officially built for long-range exploration but also can serve as (wink wink) combat vessels (cough cough). Maybe they thought a ship in combat might find itself in a situation where self-destruct might be needed very fast.
It could’ve been because their original first officer had control over the second activation code, but when he died and Chakotay was assigned as First officer, the computer probably couldn’t accept him as he was technically still a Maquis/fugitive of the Federation
@@Jeroscope Yeah I know it still took a captain and first officer in tng but the dominion war didn't start till the later seasons of ds9 and tng was off the air.
Can you imagine if they were able to get there hands on Dreadnought? A Second warp core, enhanced phasers weaponry, quantum and photon torpedos, regenerative sheild emitters and extra dilithium and dueterium, would have given Voyager a hell of an upgrade.
Yer not bad given Dreadnought was made with cardassian tec that is like 50+ years behind the feds and in no way could of been a match for Voyager.
@@davidlister7590 every little helps in the delta quadrant bud.
@@davidlister7590 Yet somehow this antiquated Cardassian tech could outmatch Voyager. Garbage writing.
@@davidlister7590 Plus, they tried to deploy it against the Klingons when most of Starfleet itself was in the Delta Quadrant. What did Cardassia get? An orbital bombardment courtesy of Martok.
@@racer927 What did that happen in?
This really makes miss watching Voyager.
Ms. Who?
@4:05 the holographic doctor tells Janeway "I'm flattered!" Brillant response by Robert Picardo!
I really miss those episodes. They brought about a sense of community that seems to be missing in present day society.
Always liked this episode. I have to say I enjoyed the scene when the alien leader realized that he was 100% wrong about Voyager.
So Tuvok hadn't anticipated the order to retrieve the escape pods in the slightest and was just sitting there on his arse.
3:35 "My instructor was Mr. Langley... and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you."
Oh yes !, forgotten that.
Excellent episode...
"Somewhat singed" = has second and third degree burns
They have magic space medicine, it's no biggie.
I love the Doctor's dry wit. "How flattering."
4:00 you have entered an incorrect password, please renter password. Click here if you have forgotten your password.
Janeway:Oh fuck
Then she forgets to checkmark the "I am not a robot" checkbox.
Poor Data, never passes CAPTCHAs.
Janeway's code is much more succinct than those of Picard.
Lmao what?
Data made it all the way to Dr Soong by commandeering the Enterprise with Capt Picard's voice and code.
But not as epic.
th-cam.com/video/rERApU26PcA/w-d-xo.html
After all that, they didn't thinkg about the doctor...
One of my fav episodes
*Dreadnought explodes... Voyager continues to shake until Janeway terminates Self Destruct sequence."
... Self destruct Intensifies?
The most Vulcan way to say “ ride or die”
This was a damn good episode 👏
"Thanks for everything" Was this before ir after lizard babies?
LOL!
XD love this and to answer your question this was two episodes after the whole salamander baby thing. i think that episode "Threshold" was season 2 Epsiode 15 if i remember correctly. Its been like 10 years since i last watched voyager lol
@@phillip1054
! month isn't quite thread necromancy so:
Threshhold: 2x15, May 16, 2372
Dreadnoght: 2x17, June 12, 2372
You want to forget about that episode.
Very disappointed there was no outro conversation with the people from that planet to close things out. Just bam, episode over. Voyager did that a lot.
Only squeeze so much into a 40 minute episode. However there could have been an end dialogue like "we spent some time getting to know the inhabitants....." I was similarly frustrated with a TNG episode when Barclay sent Enterprise to the centre of the galaxy to meet the Cytherians. Could have made another episode of that encounter or perhaps a later follow up.
But maybe that's the point of the whole ST franchise "leave em wanting more".
I didnt think self destruct could be turned off until at least 10 seconds remaining.
Newer ship
-Tuvok is such a tsundere…-
How flattering
Picardo was brilliant in SG1 and in this.
Fantastic character actor.
Janeway always gets sidetracked -- Tries to get the ship back into local space, but endangers the ship and lives of the crew over a mega nuclear warhead or a Borg vessel. Coffee, black, indeed.
"What are you doing?"
"Trying to blow something up"
"Klingons gonna kling"
"Dave, what are you doing Dave?"
Tuvoc just sitting there thinking “ that’s one crazy b………”
Ingenious.
"Aye Captain" "Oh and get out of my chair!" SFDebris reference.
If they had launched their pods, the hull would have been a tripaphobic nightmare, not that beauty shot we saw at the end.
Bah, self closing hatch doors! Gotta stay streamlined if you'll be jettisoning crew, then performing an atmospheric entry.
Thanks for that mental image ......
Presumably that was after they had recovered the pods.
The hatches close after the escape pods are jettisoned. Starfleet has the foresight to realize that using the escape pods are not necessarily meaning that the ship is 100% due to be destroyed
Look B'ellana, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
Stop B'lanna, will you stop?
Per our last conversation: You're also ugly. I'm looking at your file right now, and it mentions that more than once.
HAL9000s cardassian brother
1:33 That's when Janeway realized that her best friend in the whole world is Data. Let's call it: Star Trek Janeway.
You mean Tuvok?
Data?? Wasn't he dead by then?
Mscape 7777 Voyager returned home before the events of Nemesis.
I appreciate any and all mocking of ST Picard
Is it me or was that the deep space nine theme at the end?
Yes it was! I heard it too
Lyric Bembry Hmmmm I wonder why they did that?
I never notice that. Thank you.
@@zacharyfett2491 Because the maquis were originally featured primarily in DS9?
@@BlackLiger788 Oh, that's a very good explanation! I had not considered that.
How else glanced down at the video length when the computer voice said, "Warp core overload in eleven minutes"?
Tuvok …friend to the end 😊
I find it amusing that in all the star trek shows where they actually did a self destruct, it was a bit underwhelming, remembering Star Trek III - The Search for Spock in particular. Wondering how such an underwhelming detonation would even do a thing to the Dreadnought.
I hate that self destruct in Star Trek 3, if the Enterprise had not been so close to the Genesis planet and burned up in the atmosphere about 50% of the ship would have survived.
yea about that... insurgence did in fact show us how it looks when a warpcore explodes. THat entire rift closing detonation? Was purely the warpcore, not the rift. Thats also why in most proper ST games when a ship explodes you take quiet some damage from it because of that warpcore.
Why it was so lacking in the movie? Becuase the movie is frelling old AF. They didnt have the ability nor the money of more modern stuff back then. If they would remaster it it would look a lot more dreadfull. Hell even the detonation in TNG was waaaay bigger wich also crippled the impulse drives among other systems of the saucer section given it was nearly right next to the engine section.
I would have chosen to stay on the 37’s planet even before this episode for various reasons.
If the ship had ran into the 37’s planet after this incident. I bet a few people would have decided to stay.
Especially in light of the late episode about the 3 crew members who "don't fit in", I find it most implausible that _nobody_ wanted to stay.
Enterprise used a much more secure password for the self destruct sequence.
Oof, Janeway straight up forgot that poor hologram on board when the ship was blowing up.
How do you think she'd like if if she was a hologram, and was left behind on an exploding starship? Hmm? Hmmmmm?!?!
I wonder if this was the inspiration for the Dreadnought in the "Into Darkness" remake film. If there will always be a push to militarize even a miracolously humanitarian armada like the federation in Star Trek.
She is a horrible captain she always wants to blow the ship up thinking that's going to save the day
Interesting little plot hole. We see in both TNG and DS9 the arming and de-activating of the self destruct requires the authorization of the captain AND first officer. I guess since Chakotay was not aboard when they needed to shut down self destruct......it was convenient Jayneway's authorization was enough.
Voyager never needed the Two-man rule for self-destruct, Janeway's authorization is enough, one would assume it's because they're stranded in the Delta Quadrant rendering normal protocol obsolete.
Original first officer was killed and maybe Chakotay wouldn’t be accepted by the computer as he’s not Starfleet.
also they needed expedient way to destroy the ship in various cases given they were so far away from starfleet.
@@AidanMillward I can understand Chakotay not having sufficient credentials for the Computer's security systems to recognize him as First Officer, but you would think that the Computer would be programmed to recognize Tuvok as next in line for First Officer position in case the original First Officer was out of commission.
I know that Starfleet isn't exactly a full-fledged military organization and this has come back to bite them everytime a serious war breaks out, but they still should have a codified chain of command and all that.
The missile computer could have lied to Torres about the percentage strength of the containment field, in order to get her to give up. Even when near collapse it could have said "Containment field integrity at 97%.
I watch this show on netflix all the time!
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Strains of the Deep Space Nine theme at the end?
Tuvok has a heart of coppery gold. 💛
Ho next captain
beavered out just in time......
BOOM......
Seemed kind of small explosion such a large missile.
Aw shucks just one.....
the entirety of Star Trek forgets that when a ship is destroyed, all the antimatter is released, which means you should have a MASSIVE catastrophic matter-antimatter explosion each time,.. but never do. Only instance I can think of is the one time it was actually mentioned, in "Contageon" (TNG), and that wasn't even the result of the explosion, its what CAUSED it,... and still wasn't large enough of a blast
Reason: VFX Budget.
@@jimtaylor294 Seconded. Didn't Voyager implement a lot more CGI elements after Year of Hell?
@@rkmugen Aye. DS9 & this used CGI sparingly, but didn't get the investment in VFX that Enterprise did (such as being shot all in higher def' widescreen), though DS9 & Voyager used a lot of physical models whilst Enterprise used none. There's even ways to tell which was used for a given scene.
The Orville uses both physical models & CGI, as they found better results could be gained through using both. As such some 1990's methods are coming back, albeit supported by better hardware.
She is too calm once it's all over. Anyone would be totally jacked.
That is why Janeway's the Captain.
didn't anyone notice the DS9 theme melody at 4:39?
Meanwhile with CC on - " Beaver back now hang on"................
But it is flattering that she forgot about the ECH. That could mean that see already sees more in the ECH than just a hologram.
I find it funny that the actor for the Doctor's last name is Picardo.
Imagine Sulu hanging about to tell Kirk about his ships thrusters instead of evacuating.
Kirk would have had the line cut or had him say it to himself.
Scotty wouldn't have let such essential maintenance just slip like that. Who cares if you're 70000 light years from the nearest resupply.
DS9 they can beam air into the space Miles and Julian were in..... Voyager: "......airs just a little thin in here...." "Keep me advised, Janeway out."
That's because Miles as a miracle worker like Scotty.
about time
lol
It would have been intriguing if Paris has bent down and kissed Janeway💖
I thought ALL Starfleet vessels required TWO officers to initiate and cancel self destruct.
Then Janeway couldn't explode the core all willy nilly! There'd be fighting amongst the officers etc
'Retrieve our escape pods' as if they just redocked right back in their spots when clearly when other ships have launched them clearly hull panels are ejected and simple one shot thrusters used to separate them
voyager's seem to have a bit of sophistication about them:
th-cam.com/video/Erb5DdMW4jU/w-d-xo.html
I think it was before the lizard babies
Couldn't Janeway blow up a warp core of a shuttlecraft
When Gene Roddenberry was accosted by a royal Prince of Saudi Arabia, "Mr. Roddenberry, in Star Trek, you have black people, Russians, Oriental, Scottish... even races that don't exist, like Klingons and Vulcans. But, there's not one single Muslim! Why is that?" Gene replied, "Because, Your Highness, there are no Muslims in the future"
What if Janeway had fallen and knocked herself out. End of them all.
Tuvok could have cancelled the self destruct.
The original Star Trek took 3 (Capt Kirk,Mr Spock, and Scotty
Couldn't B'Elanna set the phaser to overload and avoided the issue of Dreadnought cutting off her life support??? Just wondering. Because when Roga Danar overloaded phasers on Enterprise-D they set off major explosions felt even on the Bridge itself.
Those Spoonheads are smarter than you realize lol
She was using the phaser as a cutting torch for lack of a better sci fi term, it was a focused energy beam, overloading the phaser would have diffused the energy
😃👏🏻👍🏻
Would have been cool if the Borg would have found the alien home world and assimilated them! Then you would have Borg Aliens running around!
Borg assimilate aliens all the time?? Borg are assimilated aliens??
@@Mscape7 I believe they are referring to the xenomorphs from the "Alien" franchise.
Janeway starts walking at :06 then walks until :15. Did she take the long way around the bridge?
Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom😉
I would never forget about the Doctor.
Who set the self destruct and why ??
I wonder if two box career stagnated because of the incident of insubordination aboard the Excelsior. Or being in Starfleet as long as he was by the time, he reported for duty aboard voyager I would’ve thought he would’ve been a lieutenant commander, or full commander by then. The other alternative is, due to their long lives. Vulcans remain in their ranks for a longer Duration, for the sake of some sort of career equality/inclusivity sort of thing!
LOL...TwoBox
Why destroy the entire ship? Why not just eject the core and remotely detonate it?
Because they only get one shot at this and can't risk missing. Dreadnought has maneuvering thrusters and the reflexes of an AI. If they wait for Voyager to get to a safe distance before detonating, Dreadnought would have ample time to dodge the explosion as well.
Why didn’t Dreadnought just vent the atmosphere?
Was that GlaDOS?
No, the episode references that B'Elanna had reprogrammed the computer in her own voice
Why didn't they transport oxygen tank over?
Wouldn’t it have been better to use a more powerful phaser rifle than pistol
Wouldn't fit/didn't have one
The dreadnaught exploding in The Last Jedi was about 1 trillion times better.
The last what..?
@@distomos8118 and you call yourself a treckie...
Darren Hill I don‘t like Star Wars.
@@distomos8118 what's a star war?
I admit I like BOTH Star Trek AND Star Wars myself. But sorry Last Jedi was 🔥 🗑️!
What if a captain talked in his sleep? He could initiate silent self destruct sequence without anyone knowing. Just saying
It wouldn't happen
the sequence is very rigid, no one can just mumble it
What I never understood about this particular episode was the self destruct sequence of Voyager. Whether it be the motion picture or Star Trek the next generation, when the self destruct is activated it would take to seeing the bridge officers at least to shut it down. That should’ve been the protocol here. Not just the captain. Two Buck was also on the bridge with her. The inconsistency is a bit illusion shattering.
Janeway is what happens when Karen BECOMES the manager.
shut off the anti grav plating an she cant fire due to floating and or shut off the inertial dampeners an do a barrel roll an agen no shooting .. this dradnaught it stupid
I enjoyed watching Voyager. This episode wasn't very good. The underlying theme, message, is that the lives and needs of voyagers crew is subordinated to anyones eles needs, desires. For Janeway this is consistent. If it were realistic the crew would mutiny, Who would want to sign up for that group. Like a father or mother subordinating the needs of his children to others, disgraceful.
Janeway is the type of woman I would have children with if I was ever lucky enough to meet one like her.....
She is the type of woman who would burn your house to prevent a bourglar from escaping :)
@@molybdaen11 XD
It's the coffee!😛☕
I prefer Torres 😍
Dennis Martin - won't your parents object to your bringing a woman home to your bedroom in the family home?