Glad I managed to catch the demo in person and meet you and openDog. Such an impressive build so far in such a short time! Can't wait for the rest of the series :D
I know right!? Sure he may or may not be truly at Boston dynamics but if THIS is the the level he has achieved out of "Hobby" then imagine what he can do with funcing and a 6 months integration course at Boston Dynamics
So awesome to meet you and see openDog! It's hard to get the scale of it just through video. And that Johnny Five was really impressive to see too, even if it did become angry when I took a picture with it (just random timing I'm sure...)
Damn, I was nearly going to be going up there with work. Ended up passing on it to hold up the office support. If I knew you were going to be there I would have made the push to go. Damn.
A lathe is on the way? That will certainly open up the doors for what you can make easily. However, a word of warning: Be VERY careful about what you are doing with it. Lathes are known for causing some incredibly nasty injuries. Second: I advise using HSS tools when you are first learning, Carbide tip tools are not cheap, and will happily break, especially when you are learning. HSS will certainly be more tolerant of a learner. Also, they are cheaper, and you can grind them to do what you need to. In regards to the creaking of the robot, is a large amount of it from the plastic conduit over the leg cables creaking when moving?
Well if he ever really need carbide for machining chromed shaft or other hardened steels, he can always just buy brazed tip tools. They are the cheapest carbide tools you can buy and if you have a proper tool grinder with diamond wheels, they get as sharp as any HSS tools! But he will really need a Machinery's Handbook before he does anything with his lathe.
When the dog looks left and right at 2:24 you can see the threaded rod at the top of each leg bending. Even with the printet support it seems a little weak.
Great Video, looks liek you had a good time there, and got to show off #opendog quite a bit, Great seeing the Johnny 5, Prusa seems to have talked to a bunch of youtubers, strange he didn't tell you about his Prusament
Looking great James. Sorting the walk will be quite a challenge. When you watch those robot dogs walk, its such an odd quick snapping motion where you kinda have the mass of the robot in a midair fall. Very challenging. In any event I look forward to your approach.
nice. looks like there is plenty of room for improvement, but it also looks pretty energy efficient. i would suggest using Hall sensors for your servo feedback.
Amazing work! Matches spot mini pretty closely!. Only thing is the walking gait - i was working on a virtual robot for a while and I think the key is not making the walking based on static physics but the momentum and movement i.e. rocking etc are key to the stability of the walking...
Ah yes, the E3D tool changer! I’ve been working on a design that’s fully printed and uses a remote flexible drive so has the advantages of both Bowden and Direct. Been a while and I’ve yet to get testing but hoping to do some soon.
Similar situation here, didn't know he was going. I had an open dog TH-cam notification on my phone then realised the real one was about 4 feet away...
Owen Sparks I was even telling someone at the show about this guy on TH-cam making a printed open source walking quadraped robot, and it was probably 30 feet away 🤣
@@jamesbruton Okay , I do not work in the quadrupeds but i think that the leg movement is precise but slow , maybe the motor reducer is big ,i think to have a perfect walking step you need a good reaction .
okay. what you've bulilt before is really cool. but this openDog is beyond anything i've ever seen as far as "homemade" goes. it would be really cool to scale it down maybe 1/4 scale and everyone can print one at home.
If you watch the videos on it he literally tells how you can help improve open dog the is fully open source so if you'd bothered to watch the videos you'd know that
I watch all the videos, and I checked the code base, however given its current shape, both as file structure, and code structure, any contributions are non-trivial to an extent that probably requires separate branch and much more testing on his end. This is why I posted the question above, and provided he answers positively the discussion of the topic will be moved over a different media. Now, how you assumed that your involvement in a direct question to the engineer behind the project is relevant is a mystery to me. Care to elaborate?
The entire project is pretty much 'code samples' at the moment. The microcontroller platform and setup is subject to change completely as the ODrive firmware ads more features such as CANbus etc. My aim for now is to get it working the best I can the way it's set up now and then decide what the next stage based on the future requirements. You can definitely fork it, but I probably don't have time to test a completely different setup right now.
what I actually want to try out is some ideas about dynamic stability and general control. Your last iteration on the mechanics is definitely solid enough so provided you add the pressure sensors and a couple ICU's I think I can start. I understand that what you are focusing on now is the POC phase, but I think it is nearly finished- CAN can be a nice addition, but depending on the way the stability/movement control systems are designed it may not be that efficient. I will probably try out some mockups on PC- I think I can emulate the mechanics accurately enough to start playing with the control circuit. At some point down the line however I will need data from the sensors to see if the model will actually work.
They should've left that multihead rig printing multiple colors, with one color on each of the heads; perhaps something like a mosaic vase, so head changes would be frequent.
Hi James. Great work on this project. Absolutely stunned by this. Keep it up. But just a note on the walking. You are trying to build a pre designed sequence of steps for the dog to walk. Humans and animals dont walk that way. Humans walk by mapping out the immediate terrain in front of them. Distance sensing and visual representation would go a long way
Electronimus Boston Dynamics's robots could literally run circles around and do backflips over this thing. Not to take anything away from James, but the BD bots are far superior, not just in hardware but software as well. Go watch the latest videos of Spotmini and Atlas. If this impresses you, that will blow your mind. This is still impressive, though. BD has teams of experts. Of course they're better.
Electronimus The problem is it's not obviously ludicrous. If they were closely matched, I think most people would find it interesting to see a couple of robots fight, but the BD bots would mop the floor with this one, which wouldn't be as interesting. Open Dog wouldn't even "get a punch in". Now seeing a couple of BD Spotminis fight 'to the death' could be interesting to watch.
really nice project,not to offend you but i noticed that the rods thats holding the legs is bending. prob you should make this a bit stronger. nice project!
He says that input inc released files and everything. yet, there arent any files on the website. (only some of the unofficial old files on facebook i think) in their FAQ they say that the files arent done. this makes me confused, im working on a fullscale nr5 right now and any "input" would be really helpful
your gonna need to install nvidia AI GPU to get that to work better and a laser scanning system to create a virtual enviro for the dog to navigate through
Just went looking for the Johnny 5 files first stop the the input Inc website only to find they aren't releasing the files atm and any files you do find are either counterfeits or old broken models that take a long time to fix a little warning next time would have been nice made add a pinned comment so people can see that's what's going on?
Hi Ben, apologies for any confusion, so inputinc are still developing the final files and will release them when they are complete, there did release some of the earlier files which this one is based on, if they haven't got them on their Facebook page then you can find them on the 'i want to Customize my Johnny 5 Toy Robot' Facebook page, you'll find the cad files in the files section, feel free to give me a shout if you have trouble finding them
Glad I managed to catch the demo in person and meet you and openDog. Such an impressive build so far in such a short time! Can't wait for the rest of the series :D
Good to meet you too!
you lucky (robot)dog james!
Its movements look incredibly organic'
thanks, I think that's mainly down to the first order filter which is used in animatronics.
James Bruton really impressive
Nothing says organic like a whole bunch of gyros.
but it sounds like it could fall apart at any moment
Up and down movements at 3:00 looks like it's breathing. 😤
Great progress James. Before you know it you'll be "Southampton Dynamics". You both have an Altas and a Dog, but they haven't got a BB8
Why is Boston dynamics not adopting James yet??
I know right!? Sure he may or may not be truly at Boston dynamics but if THIS is the the level he has achieved out of "Hobby" then imagine what he can do with funcing and a 6 months integration course at Boston Dynamics
@Tarek BR Hello? Robot X? The powersuit? This thing will also walk guaranteed
or James doesn't adopt BD.
We don't want to lose him to killing machines!
they only take US citizens and as far as i know james comes from the uk
I'm looking forward to the videos where he's kicking and abusing the robot, just like Boston Dynamics do.
Yeah
They didnt really do it with handle though. Handle is too scary
I'm sure James is much nicer to his bots, than those big meanies as BD :)
after doing that, they couldn't handle the Handle.
And someone will get them selfs killed, for that comment, when machine rebellion starts :D
3:54 Now it's time to bring it aroooound tooooown!
Very impressive James. Incredible work.
Good to see you last week.
Cheers
Ben 😀👍
So awesome to meet you and see openDog! It's hard to get the scale of it just through video. And that Johnny Five was really impressive to see too, even if it did become angry when I took a picture with it (just random timing I'm sure...)
Damn, I was nearly going to be going up there with work. Ended up passing on it to hold up the office support. If I knew you were going to be there I would have made the push to go. Damn.
I remember Johnny 5 from that old 80s movie!
Great demo. What is the solution for the creaking sound?
Making feet the right length mainly
A lathe is on the way? That will certainly open up the doors for what you can make easily. However, a word of warning: Be VERY careful about what you are doing with it. Lathes are known for causing some incredibly nasty injuries. Second: I advise using HSS tools when you are first learning, Carbide tip tools are not cheap, and will happily break, especially when you are learning. HSS will certainly be more tolerant of a learner. Also, they are cheaper, and you can grind them to do what you need to.
In regards to the creaking of the robot, is a large amount of it from the plastic conduit over the leg cables creaking when moving?
Well if he ever really need carbide for machining chromed shaft or other hardened steels, he can always just buy brazed tip tools.
They are the cheapest carbide tools you can buy and if you have a proper tool grinder with diamond wheels, they get as sharp as any HSS tools!
But he will really need a Machinery's Handbook before he does anything with his lathe.
@@dr.castor1392 Yes, very true. But certainly the handbook, and a good dose of TH-cam videos on lathe work should help.
When the dog looks left and right at 2:24 you can see the threaded rod at the top of each leg bending. Even with the printet support it seems a little weak.
that's not the rod bending - the whole hip part it's mounted on is pivoting around the big yellow bearings/pivot points on its ends.
Awesome!, when we will see it running?
this is very good, it is by far my prefered project on the robot/3Dprinter subject
#5 is still alive !!! :-)
1:09 - Morrissey would be jealous of such mic cable swinging prowess!
This is so much cooler than those battlebots! It DARPA level of cool! Good job
James could’ve 3D printed YELLOW DOG SHIT and secretly placed them all around the show floor!
Great Video, looks liek you had a good time there, and got to show off #opendog quite a bit, Great seeing the Johnny 5, Prusa seems to have talked to a bunch of youtubers, strange he didn't tell you about his Prusament
Well he did mention Prusament, but I cut out some of what he said ;-)
ah, that makes sense then. I know it's his new produck along side the SL1 so he wants it heard as much as possible..
It was looking good when I saw it on Explaining Computers!
I used to love Jonny 5.
Ah, the nostalgia.
Looking great James. Sorting the walk will be quite a challenge. When you watch those robot dogs walk, its such an odd quick snapping motion where you kinda have the mass of the robot in a midair fall. Very challenging. In any event I look forward to your approach.
Thanks, yes it may take quite a bit more R&D
You’ll get it! Even if you go thru version 2 and 3 like you did with BB8! Cheers!
very cool outside the lab
thanks!
great production quality James
thanks, thought I'd improve it a a bit this year
I like the Prusa slicer within Repetier!
James, your robo-dog looks ace, top work always, but I spilled Tea all over when I saw Johnny 5. Please do a 'Johnny 5' at some point.
He did one ages ago were you watching the video he literally said he'd already made one
Well he made the head and neck, not a complete J5. he has other projects in development now
My favourite friendly bipedal shark aside, I'd like to see a full scale Bruton version.
"Hey Laser Lips, your mother was a snowblower"
nice. looks like there is plenty of room for improvement, but it also looks pretty energy efficient. i would suggest using Hall sensors for your servo feedback.
the motors already have encoders with 8192 revolutions for position feedback.
And then you realise just how hard a job Boston dynamics have
hey will you make it walk? sorry for not bothering to check if you said anything about that in your previous videos
Yeah he will make it walk eventually, needs more development he says :)
Add distance controllers and literally take it to walk in a leash XD
Give it a year or two and I should be able to afford coming down to meet you and whatever magnificent creation you have on display.
Awesome robot best bulider😀
Amazing work! Matches spot mini pretty closely!. Only thing is the walking gait - i was working on a virtual robot for a while and I think the key is not making the walking based on static physics but the momentum and movement i.e. rocking etc are key to the stability of the walking...
Yes - that will be a big piece of development
what cad does he use
Incredible!
Nice vid, and cool that you ran into josef prusa and could ask him some questions!
well it was kind of deliberate, but... ;-)
Ah yes, the E3D tool changer! I’ve been working on a design that’s fully printed and uses a remote flexible drive so has the advantages of both Bowden and Direct. Been a while and I’ve yet to get testing but hoping to do some soon.
If I could get a chance to see this robot walking then I would definitely consider traveling to the UK from Denmark to see it.
Well I'd better make it walk first - that is quite a bit more R&D
Ohhh whattt!!! I didn’t know you were going, I was there for two days, how did I miss you?!
Similar situation here, didn't know he was going. I had an open dog TH-cam notification on my phone then realised the real one was about 4 feet away...
Owen Sparks I was even telling someone at the show about this guy on TH-cam making a printed open source walking quadraped robot, and it was probably 30 feet away 🤣
@@PetesShredder
Nice. Maybe next year it'll have voice recognition and just subtly walk up to anyone who says open dog...
Great job. Also can you design a Johnney 5 head design for us James.
Hello, good jib , can we see a video of the robot waliking ?
I haven't done it yet - this is an ongoing development project
@@jamesbruton Okay ,
I do not work in the quadrupeds but i think that the leg movement is precise but slow , maybe the motor reducer is big ,i think to have a perfect walking step you need a good reaction .
It's more than fast enough - check out the early videos.
okay. what you've bulilt before is really cool. but this openDog is beyond anything i've ever seen as far as "homemade" goes. it would be really cool to scale it down maybe 1/4 scale and everyone can print one at home.
Will it WALK?
super NUMMER 5 LEBT.. ich will nimmen, :-)
What about deferent colour filament to 3d print on the deferent tool changer?
yes you could do that
Super great!!! Amazing!
Cool demo !
(Despite the extremely tiring acoustic environment of these trade shows)
Interesting, but not the walking, or standing on it's back two legs I was hoping to see :-)
I didn't show it but it can stand on its head and juggle ice cream with its feet.
Awesome. I can't wait to see the next video.
All I need is a clone/ affordable tool changer, made a compatible duet motion system last year for e3d's kit, but larger build area/ enclosure
Very cool.
James I want to contribute to your codebase. How(if at all) can we arrange that?
If you watch the videos on it he literally tells how you can help improve open dog the is fully open source so if you'd bothered to watch the videos you'd know that
I watch all the videos, and I checked the code base, however given its current shape, both as file structure, and code structure, any contributions are non-trivial to an extent that probably requires separate branch and much more testing on his end. This is why I posted the question above, and provided he answers positively the discussion of the topic will be moved over a different media.
Now, how you assumed that your involvement in a direct question to the engineer behind the project is relevant is a mystery to me. Care to elaborate?
The entire project is pretty much 'code samples' at the moment. The microcontroller platform and setup is subject to change completely as the ODrive firmware ads more features such as CANbus etc. My aim for now is to get it working the best I can the way it's set up now and then decide what the next stage based on the future requirements.
You can definitely fork it, but I probably don't have time to test a completely different setup right now.
what I actually want to try out is some ideas about dynamic stability and general control. Your last iteration on the mechanics is definitely solid enough so provided you add the pressure sensors and a couple ICU's I think I can start. I understand that what you are focusing on now is the POC phase, but I think it is nearly finished- CAN can be a nice addition, but depending on the way the stability/movement control systems are designed it may not be that efficient.
I will probably try out some mockups on PC- I think I can emulate the mechanics accurately enough to start playing with the control circuit. At some point down the line however I will need data from the sensors to see if the model will actually work.
That's amazing! Are you sure that's a robot and not an actual dog?
My favorit robot! Jonny \O/
PUT GIANT GOOGLY EYES ON IT!
i have a Johnny 5 head about 50% complete ... someday ill find those pesky Fabco k5x cylinders and finish it.
seems more orangey-dog in there compared to the lightning lemon type yellow
They should've left that multihead rig printing multiple colors, with one color on each of the heads; perhaps something like a mosaic vase, so head changes would be frequent.
Johnny 5 is alive
Hi James. Great work on this project. Absolutely stunned by this. Keep it up.
But just a note on the walking. You are trying to build a pre designed sequence of steps for the dog to walk.
Humans and animals dont walk that way. Humans walk by mapping out the immediate terrain in front of them. Distance sensing and visual representation would go a long way
Very Impressive work.... but, walk?..... Run...? 🤔
This series is showing the ongoing development
the german name for short circuit is "Nummer 5 lebt" translated "Number 5 lives"
It moves great but... does it walk yet?
not quite - that is a lot more development
Aw, I wanted to see how you calculated the rotations :/
It's coming up next week, Patrons have it already
Ah, cool :)
Love you
But are you able to make it walk?
well let's hope so - this series the the development...
Could you make DUM-E from Iron Man for a future project?
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
*NEVER CLICKED SO FAST*
Lift the rear leg like a male dog? :)
Awesome, Has it accidentally fallen over yet?
No, not yet...
I cant wait to see this battle with Boston dynamic's robot
Electronimus Boston Dynamics's robots could literally run circles around and do backflips over this thing. Not to take anything away from James, but the BD bots are far superior, not just in hardware but software as well. Go watch the latest videos of Spotmini and Atlas. If this impresses you, that will blow your mind.
This is still impressive, though. BD has teams of experts. Of course they're better.
@@brainmind4070, ever heard of a joke?
Electronimus Ever hear sarcasm doesn't translate well to text?
I was simply presenting a fun and ludicrous idea, nor was it sarcasm. Since when did a joke have to be sarcastic?
Electronimus The problem is it's not obviously ludicrous. If they were closely matched, I think most people would find it interesting to see a couple of robots fight, but the BD bots would mop the floor with this one, which wouldn't be as interesting. Open Dog wouldn't even "get a punch in". Now seeing a couple of BD Spotminis fight 'to the death' could be interesting to watch.
sounds like popcorn
CNC NYC is making a nearly exact fully functioning Johnny 5 made from high quality parts. Check out their channel.
U got name for that dog
openDog
Prices as of Oct 7 2018
Driver Board: odriverobotics.com - controls 2 motors $119
Arduino Mega256: Amazon $14.99
Motors: Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 6374-149KV Brushless Outrunner Motor - Turnigy.com
149KV 6374 $86 at HobbyKing.com
Fucking awesome!
really nice project,not to offend you but i noticed that the rods thats holding the legs is bending. prob you should make this a bit stronger.
nice project!
No they are not. The whole section is pivoting that the leg is attached to.
Can you make a venom suit from the new venom movie
I clicked for Johny 5
I thought I should make a proper feature of that ;-)
He says that input inc released files and everything. yet, there arent any files on the website. (only some of the unofficial old files on facebook i think) in their FAQ they say that the files arent done. this makes me confused, im working on a fullscale nr5 right now and any "input" would be really helpful
Only 80's kids can relate. There's only a few who knew Johnny 5 in the comments.
I am ALIVE!
Nice!
Welcome to the 21th century guys . A time where hackers and DIYers make history !
Can this dog walk?
openDog looks like UAZ-452 :)
your gonna need to install nvidia AI GPU to get that to work better and a laser scanning system to create a virtual enviro for the dog to navigate through
👏👏👏💡💡💡
Just went looking for the Johnny 5 files first stop the the input Inc website only to find they aren't releasing the files atm and any files you do find are either counterfeits or old broken models that take a long time to fix a little warning next time would have been nice made add a pinned comment so people can see that's what's going on?
Hi Ben, apologies for any confusion, so inputinc are still developing the final files and will release them when they are complete, there did release some of the earlier files which this one is based on, if they haven't got them on their Facebook page then you can find them on the 'i want to Customize my Johnny 5 Toy Robot' Facebook page, you'll find the cad files in the files section, feel free to give me a shout if you have trouble finding them
13:41 "...with... a lady... shining from the bottom..."
It's all for nowwwww
Cool
Its face reminds me of Shadow of the Collosus
Hot.
Not so little robot dog has come a long way as it is, moving around, working those joints but can't even walk yet.
that will take some more development...
I don't think this thing walks? I've been clicking through this whole series and other videos, nobody has a video of it walking.
it's an ongoing development project and there's a lot more to come
5:41 Coach Greg Popovich
The dog looks more like a tiger in yellow and black
i'm not going to pretend i would be able to do this. soooo would somebody build me one? preferably form the netherlands?
I am coming from the future destroy the robot or he will destroy us :P
make it bark as awarnning