Ford Focus ST Line X 2019 | 3 Good 3 Bad
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- The new Ford Focus looks fantastic. By far the biggest improvement is the cabin quality: it’s on a par with the VW Golf and Mercedes A-Class. There are a host of new engines, and a new 8-speed automatic gearbox you’d actually want to choose. Space is in plentiful supply, especially in the back. The only downside: the price is also on a par with the VW Golf and Mercedes A-Class. And the options lists are longer - and pricier - than before.
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If you're getting one and you love your music, get one with the B&O Play system installed. It's jawdropping 😎. Simply jawdropping.
Stuart Miller so glad I’ve seen your comment, I’m getting one soon and the only option I went for was this sound system upgrade! Hope it’s as good as you say!
Yes i have B&O it is excellent,my speakers even have the genuine B&O badges.Some dont.
On my second Focus, this one is the ST Line X. I do 60,000 miles a year plus. Great car, had it Ceramic Coated by SPR Detailing, car looks better than a showroom cat.
What’s your thoughts on multi link suspension compared to twist beam? Seems the earliest st lines had multi link...not now. Although I’ve read the twist beam is the suspension from the fiesta ST.
How do you Hagel with the dealer what do you say to get the price down
Have to agree with how the 8 speed auto works in urban 30mph area's with tarmac speed humps in "sport" it goes into crazy i dont know which gear to select and will rev its bollox off while it decides,this is in a 2021 Kuga 190 AWD,
I just brought the 1.0 ecoboost 125bhp and it's OK ish on normal short roads, but when you take it on a lomg road it's so lagging power. You put your foot down and it's like zzzzz stuck with it now for 4 years.
Had my 1.5 st line x (182bhp) for 3 months and absolutely love it. Would strongly recommend manual over auto. I was given an auto version as a courtesy car and hated it. Sport mode is lovely and I only choose eco when in rush hour traffic. I went through an online company that rhymes with bar pow and saved about £3k off the book price ;)
Rich Ghost how do you find the real-world economy of the 1.5 EcoBoost?
A good friend of ours has the 1.5 EcoBoost 182 petrol with a manual gearbox and speaks very highly of it in terms of performance, but his real-world mpg is nothing to write home about...
Simply Motor so Rich Ghost hated the Auto gearbox but you liked it. What did you like about it?
Simply Motor sorry I watched the video, and you explained what was good about it. Would you buy the auto or the manual?
A smith if I were going out to buy one tomorrow - I’d have the auto.
It’s a really smooth gearbox and works well to make best use of the limited power available.
With the 1.5 EcoBoost 182, the Focus has more of a ‘warm hatch’ appeal. So in that sense a manual will be more engaging.
Simply Motor I’m getting too old for manuals but want a bit of power + auto.
I have a Ford Focus 2020 ST-Line X 8 speed auto MK4
I have had non stop problems with this car. However, I persist because I like it.
*short story*
I got the vehicle on 9,000 miles.
Prior to collecting from Company called Cazoo they stated the gearbox was broken. They stated they then fixed it with a ‘software update.’
Driving it for a while, I would notice when coming off the accelerator there would be a ticking sound. You could hear. However, disappeared when going back onto the accelerator. When shifting from P, R, N and D it has always been a bit jerky.
It went to Ford numerous times and they always stated cannot find customers complaint with the engine and ticking noise as well as numerous engine, warning, lights and drivetrain problems popping up on the dash.
Finally, it got to 30,000 and the engine blew up. Thankfully still under warranty with ONE day left.
So at the moment on the clock, it’s down 33,000 miles in which three of those 30,000 have been driven on the new engine.
So that is the story of this Focus, hopefully it helps.
My one question if anyone can help or relate is: when I shift from R to D the car jolts forward every time as if you were driving a manual car and stalled. However, does not do this on a cold start. Ford are useless and can someone with a brain please shed some light.
All other autos I’ve driven and other ford focus’ do NOT behave like this.
Personally, I would not recommend a Focus unless its an engine above a 1.0L and a manual.
Thank you so much!
I just got rid of my 2021 ST Line X auto (ironically it went back with 9k miles), had from new (Motability) - worst car I have ever driven, probably forgot some things but:-
A) Accelerator latency/delay is horrible, pulling out at roundabouts for instance, was borderline dangerous as the accelerator would take 1-2s to actually respond, unless I briefly floored the accelerator, this got it to "wake up" - this resulted in a jerky car ride, not very smooth at all. The latency would only happen sometimes - which made it impossible for the dealer to diagnose, so I just put up with it.
B) Random electrical faults, I had the full digital cockpit, which would randomly lock up (speed showing 15mph for instance, while stationary) requiring me to restart the vehicle, sometimes would take 2-3 attempts. Infotainment system as well would randomly restart while driving. My window-washer alert *never* worked, it never knew when it was empty.
C) Persistent poor tyre tracking, after 2 alignments, vehicle would still pull to the right, was worse in some instances but was manageable
D) DPF consistently being blocked, even after a 30 mile motorway run, next day, DPF blocked again (In all fairness the car was mostly used for short journeys, was not able to get the petrol variant at the time as I was under 25)
E) Horrific fuel economy - averaged 26mpg, never saw higher than 31mpg for the 3 years I owned it
I have now got a SEAT Ateca which I picked up 2 weeks ago, 100x better than the POS ford. I do wonder if I got a lemon car...
Wow…. Yep, never getting another Ford again.
My engine blew up at 30,000 miles.
Thankfully under warranty.
Car runs fine at the moment!
Just the semi-auto transmission is horrible when shifting to P,R,N,D. I have to reset the PCM on forscan every so often and it fixes the jerks.
MPG is good though, roughly 50mpg on every drive.
Can anyone advise… does the ST line X come with the interior scuff “ST” guards and the alloy pedals, or is this something you have to buy extra? Same with the red break callipers. Is this standard on the ST line X or extra cost?
Casting my mind back, I’m pretty sure you get the alloy pedals. Not sure what the kickguards say. Maybe “ST Line”?? And yes, I think the red brake callipers were standard on the X, but not on the normal ‘ST Line’.
Hope that helps 👍
Hi Great vid, does the badge say st line x or just st line ,
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Graeme w just ST line - the X trim is almost like a ‘Lux Pack’ with different wheels, part leather trim and other goodies. But the badging remains the same.
What I’m hearing is this car has basically no issues, bar the passengers, who can’t complain cause you’re giving them a lift, and an automatic gearbox issue which is solved by going manual
Does the UK St line x have led mood lighting.I.e in the cup holder areas as the Ford brochure doesn't say really
Michael pound from memory it has lights under the rear-view mirror which bathe the cup holder area in a soft light. It’s rather subtle but does help at night.
Hope that helps 👍
It doesn't have mood lighting in the footwells or anything but it does have lighting in the cupholder area, which is the question you asked, so it depends if that's all you were expecting.
@@Sto79Be Mine was made in Germany (St-Line X) and it has lighting in cupholders etc. and also electric rear windows. The only thing different in the Vignale is that you can change the colour of the lighting, based on what I've read.
@@stuartmiller7419 St line X has no mood lighting whatsoever I went and saw one....stingy.not even the St has it unless you get the performance pack. I Was quoted same price for a lease as an audi q3 s line due to high depreciation on the focus No comparison ... No brainer. All ordered for March 20 registration:-)
@@Mikeyp1054 I think your initial definition of mood lighting was not what you meant by it. My cup holder has lighting and I thought that's what you were asking someone to confirm or deny. Enjoy, though 😊
How much can I reasonably haggle a Ford dealer for a 2nd hand 2019 Focus ST Line, there's ones going for 16/17K with less than 10K miles on the clock, is there much wiggle room for me as a cash buyer? Any help would be appreciated.
REDKN1GHT 19 There’s probably some room to haggle there. Motorpoint have a lot of Focus ST Lines in at the moment. Mileage is a little higher but they’re around 15/16k and they’re the ST Line X specification. Worth a look for sure!
@@simplymotor thanks I'll have a look, and as I'm paying all cash does that put me in a better position to haggle or does it not matter?
REDKN1GHT 19 you should be able to get a better deal as a cash buyer. But a couple of points to note:
1. That’s not true of car supermarkets like Motorpoint. They work on low-margin, high-volume and make virtually all of their profit on finance arrangements. So no discount for cash.
2. Sometimes you can bend the rules of finance agreements to get discounts. For example some dealers offer you £500 discount for taking finance, but you need only take a minimum amount (day £2,000) and can pay it off in full after 24 hours, paying
@@simplymotor thanks for the advice 👍
The drive modes are great, all have a completely different feeling.
squilacci10 I’m getting an st line x is sport mode show a lot of difference in acceleration
@@smiffy.airsoft.ghillie5861 yes, the engine reacts a lot more direct
squilacci10 awesome even on a diesel
@@smiffy.airsoft.ghillie5861 haven't driven the diesel, I have the 182 bhp petrol
squilacci10 is it the 182 auto? Or manual?
What comes as standard for the £26k ?
Standard specification of the Focus ST Line X includes, amongst other things: front and rear parking sensors, power-adjust driver’s seat, half-leather interior, heated front seats, dual-zone climate control, keyless start, 8-inch touchscreen and cruise control with speed limiter.
Er .... Nothing really
4 wheels everything else is an extra ......
Skoda octavia here we come ... 🙈
29mpg on normal mode. I’ll post eco mpg next week. Sports mode is awesome but can almost watch the petrol gauge go down whilst flooring it up the motorway..
Hello A Smith how long you had the vehicle and what engine? One thing that does annoy me is how you have to put it in eco every time you restart the vehicle 👍
neil watt hello Neil . Had it 6 weeks. It’s a st-line X 182 automatic. Eco mode is satisfactory, obviously saves a few quid! Normal is fun and sport is awesome imo . I’ve noticed it goes back to normal every journey. Annoying if u want to keep it in eco. I do short journeys, getting around 30 mpg. Longer motorway journeys tho 40-45mpg. First issue I’ve had is now the FordPass app won’t let me activate the car. Booked in for Thursday. What one have u got? Any issues yet?
@@asmith9040 A smith Hello buddy.
Yeah I got the new ford focus 1.5 st-line x ecoblue 120.
These engines have been newly created and are supposed to be one of the most economical engines available. We both haven't had ours long enough to be run in properly but I've noticed that my fuel economy is increasing all the time, getting 43 mpg and im still putting it in sport mode with instantaneous fuel delivery on.
Motorway journeys should have cylinder deactivation which even though you don't know when cruising one shuts off.
I wish I had gone for the 182 automatic now!
I've gone for the magnetic metallic grey paint and is an estate but doesn't look like one. I was gonna get the light blue but it is a vehicle that everyone sees coming again lol 😂.
See how you get on when we both run them in properly!
Yeah I've had terrible malfunctions with the stupid electric handbrake. I drove van's for 12 years and got into a physical activity of leaving it in 3rd gear.
Now im definitely operating it properly and once the car was on a hill and a woman came running in saying my car was rolling down the road.
I've never had a accident or even been pulled over by the police but had 2 pulls now for no reason at all! WTF! Probably would of been on a 5 count if I was in the Desert island blue.
Anyway thanks for your quick reply and ide be glad if you can keep me posted!
Yeah I had to take mine back to sort the ford Pass connect up 👌
neil watt ..the 182 is really good but it’s costing me a fortune on fuel! I heard a rumour today that Ford UK have stopped selling all 1.5l focus due to a fuse box issue! I’m taking that with a pinch of salt! But I’ve tweeted forduk asking if it’s true. No response 5 hours later. I expect their marketing people will be deciding how to respond. Was a guy on the fordownersclub.com been waiting 5 months on a vignale focus. They also have the 182 engine. Says his car is in uk but ford aren’t handing them over! Maybe they’re fixing the fault before handover to avoid a costly recall. Who knows! I’m gonna check my Twitter just now...if it’s an interesting response I’ll post it on here...
Btw mines desert island blue!
I noticed that the build quality isn't really that amazing
The side panel bents quite easily compared to the old one
Try squeezing the door, with the window door, it goes in easily, wth
owo never really noticed this: it’s difficult spending just a week with the car.
Manufacturers have to finely balance weight and cost saving in their production methods with solid and robust build quality.
That’s a fine balance, and has resulted is some flimsy-feeling panels/bumpers/trim.
That’s not even specific to this car either...
@@simplymotor i'm not saying its specific but keep in mind old focus or any older gen ford had no wobble what so ever, I noticed by casuality as well, the dealer was also surprised at how it bends. They say its fine since inside there's a bigger metal to hold crashes but that's not the point, more like the material and quality seems to became worse than previous gens
Don’t understand when car reviewers feel like we need to watch them chat chat chat chat 🗣🗣🗣🗣....... I want to see the car not you..... May I consider voice over
Thanks for the feedback. We’re still learning how best to present these reviews and voiceover is something we’ll definitely try. Do you think static ‘walk around’ shots with a voice overlay is better than actually walking around the car pointing out key features?
so Bad No. 3 is ridiculous from you.
If your driving in Town why do you need to put your car in sport mode??????
For example if your driving on a track this high revs are better to accelerate
Ore if your driving fast on a country road
It is not a bad point in my view
But nice video ;)
Semih01 glad you liked the video!
The point is that on other cars - like Audi, VW, Seat etc is that you can have an individual or custom drive mode.
So you can set the engine/gearbox to eco mode but still have weighty, sporty steering, for example.
Majority of the video was your face and not the car. Thought it was a car review? Ok you were in the car but not really relevant to the video because it was just your face.
Bad var top many problems
Concentrate on your driving .....not presenting.