@@cooperthomson9359 well no.... I'm from india and i heat about CAP in a comment on a video.so i searched it up. And it's awesome, i wish we had something like this in our country
Former senior member here ... identification number 570237. MER-VA-064. Based out of the city of Richmond Virginia. I often went around to schools hosting recruiting events trying to get young people on board. I never served in a search and rescue mission, but I did other great things like helped to mold young kids into disciplined Cadets and along with a team that I was working with, we prepared each individual for a future in Aerospace, business, the military or any leadership position in the business world. I served for two and a half years before I ended up leaving and joining the Virginia Defense Force, the reserve component of the Virginia Army National Guard.
Actually, it was founded on December 1, 1941, which was about a week prior to Pearl Harbor. "On July 1, 1946, President Harry Truman signed Public Law 476 incorporating Civil Air Patrol as a benevolent, nonprofit organization. On May 26, 1948, Congress passed Public Law 557 permanently establishing Civil Air Patrol as the auxiliary of the new U.S. Air Force." source: www.gocivilairpatrol.com/about/
William Edmondson Congrats to you both. I remember when I got Staff Sergeant. It was an awesome memory. Hopefully going to get 2nd Lieutenant pretty soon. -C/CMSgt
I have been a senior member (adult) in CAP for almost 4 years., and I strongly disagree. I believe most others would also. We are an all volunteer organization with 33,000 senior members (and 23,000 cadets), if we didn't enjoy it/take great pride, we certainly wouldn't keep doing it. I intend to keep at it for as long as I can.
@@Falcon-xx4xh Good for you. But you didn't have my experience. The organization claims to want--to value--high-output use of the aviation assets but if you accomplish that and it wasn't "some colonel's idea" then it gets ended. It is highly political. The "good 'ol boy' network is alive and well. Innovation is smothered. Most adult members think that they're actual military officers and value maintaining that "authority" over real work. It is a lazy organization. Activity is preferred over productivity. Here's a clue: The layers and layers of debilitating rules and procedures minutia. Organizations do that to idiot-proof operations. It's a sign that the membership isn't as effective or capable as needed. That's CAP in a nutshell. It is sad, as I was a proud cadet member in my youth and joined as a SM with enthusiasm while recruiting others. Then reality hit. But, press on. Maybe you'll be a good role model for cadets. I hope so. P.S. I didn't even address the corruption I witnessed.
@@unknown4133 If you are CAPNHQ or USAF assigned to CAP, you are only interested so you can learn how to cover your own butt. But briefly, wing level command staff routinely use CAP fuel cards to fund their flights that other members have to pay for. They drag their feet to reimburse members who pay for utilities (water, electricity) for CAP-owned facilities (and then just refuse to pay), for other services, etc. Assets are assigned to friends, especially at the “colonel level”; it’s who you know, not how effective your unit is. If anything is reported as possible wrongdoing or unethical, investigations are conducted behind closed doors with zero transparency and highly influenced by those in command-whose command is at risk. Members are not allowed to see/review any evidence of anything being investigated. CAPNHQ key personnel is more than a bit nepotistic and anyone questioning decisions are routinely fenced off. Bottom line, CAP “insiders” uses its fake military command system to protect itself from questions and to use taxpayer funded assets for its preferred use. Any member (and I witnessed this repeatedly) who suggests improving CAP’s mission or who questions availability and assignment of aircraft or vehicles is pressured to shut-up or leave. The response to weak flying skills among the membership is not to recruit and train better pilots; rather, it’s to layer on endless and detailed regulations designed to prevent activity rather than expand it. It’s as though the pilots are scared to fly. To wit, grass runway activity is not allowed. Taildraggers are not allowed. All the things that are challenging and produce safer, better pilots are simply not allowed. It makes no sense given CAP’s birth and history. They buy expensive “traveling” planes with high maintenance cost glass cockpits-for a mission that demands flying at 1,000’ AGL and looking outside the cockpit. It’s a complete waste of money and doesn’t address either today’s mission or look to the future. It’s a nasty, stinking cesspool run by self-important people who actually think they hold real rank. Sadly, they’re all doing it on my and your money with zero accountability. And as long as those in the USAF who are assigned to CAPNHQ as “oversight” get their cushy AF jobs for their duration, and have CAP’s expensive Cessnas to fly (and abuse) as often as they want, to accumulate ratings funded by taxpayers, they look the other way. Is that enough? And, who are you? What is your interest in this?
After my term is up in C.A.P I ain’t joining the Air Force I’m joining the Coast Guard because that’s mostly what C.A.P does, mainly the CG missions of law enforcement and SAR Not an airman btw, just saying if I do join
Sure is a well kept secret up here! Tried it & did not return. Obsolete to say the least. Used to be a CAP pilot in the 60's but things have gone really sour. Nice plane but do we need the huge expenditure? No!!!!! Good riddance. NH
Civil air patrol is so much fun and a big opportunity.
This reporter did an outstanding job on this feature. Pretty accurate and he accurately reported the facts correctly.
This satire?
I like how the entire comment section are fellow airmen 😂😂
I think it is only us who look this stuff up.
@@cooperthomson9359 well no.... I'm from india and i heat about CAP in a comment on a video.so i searched it up.
And it's awesome, i wish we had something like this in our country
yes Ive noticed that
I love cap it is the best!!
U know it
It is.
and thats why im joining
it's so cool when you see cap people that you know.
Greetings from the Maryland Wing - C/2d Lt Leng
Very interesting and motivating. Great news story.
Cadet Airman right here!
TommyGun1703 are you just an airman or an A1C or Senior
He'd have said he is a Senior Airman, or Airman First Class, if he was of the higher rank. This comes from another Civil Air Patrol Cadet Airman.
Finally promoted to Airman.
Hello all fellow airmens
This is amazing.
Former senior member here ... identification number 570237. MER-VA-064. Based out of the city of Richmond Virginia. I often went around to schools hosting recruiting events trying to get young people on board. I never served in a search and rescue mission, but I did other great things like helped to mold young kids into disciplined Cadets and along with a team that I was working with, we prepared each individual for a future in Aerospace, business, the military or any leadership position in the business world. I served for two and a half years before I ended up leaving and joining the Virginia Defense Force, the reserve component of the Virginia Army National Guard.
Cadet as a high school student in 1966 and retired from the Air Force in 2003.
Congratulations to one and all!! Great news cast!
Cap is so fun
senior airman
I'm in CAP
Cadet airman here
it was December 6, 1941. Not one week prior to pearl harbor.
Actually, it was founded on December 1, 1941, which was about a week prior to Pearl Harbor. "On July 1, 1946, President Harry Truman signed Public Law 476 incorporating Civil Air Patrol as a benevolent, nonprofit organization. On May 26, 1948, Congress passed Public Law 557 permanently establishing Civil Air Patrol as the auxiliary of the new U.S. Air Force."
source: www.gocivilairpatrol.com/about/
December 1st......
Any Arizona cadets
"Here in Central Virginia" = No Arizona Cadets
I just promoted
Congratulations, what rank are you now (I just got staff sargent)
William Edmondson Congrats to you both. I remember when I got Staff Sergeant. It was an awesome memory. Hopefully going to get 2nd Lieutenant pretty soon. -C/CMSgt
Yo what rank
I’m promoting tommorow
#puebloeaglessquadron
Lt Brewster's ribbons are out of order.
Kenneth Carson How?
They’re correct as per CAPR 39-3. Thanks for feedback.
-C/Col Sarah Brewster #2110
Oh dang what a twist
Sarah Brewster daaaaam 😝👊🏽
Very out of order.
Dem class a's tho
Also cadets aren't allowed to go on search and rescues until there 18
Theawesomerhino Yes they can have you read 60-3
Actually, they can and do. Read 60-3.
What's a class à
I want them.
planning to join cap soon
Did you?
Great for cadets, not so much for adults. Avoid.
I have been a senior member (adult) in CAP for almost 4 years., and I strongly disagree. I believe most others would also. We are an all volunteer organization with 33,000 senior members (and 23,000 cadets), if we didn't enjoy it/take great pride, we certainly wouldn't keep doing it. I intend to keep at it for as long as I can.
@@Falcon-xx4xh Good for you. But you didn't have my experience. The organization claims to want--to value--high-output use of the aviation assets but if you accomplish that and it wasn't "some colonel's idea" then it gets ended. It is highly political. The "good 'ol boy' network is alive and well. Innovation is smothered. Most adult members think that they're actual military officers and value maintaining that "authority" over real work. It is a lazy organization. Activity is preferred over productivity. Here's a clue: The layers and layers of debilitating rules and procedures minutia. Organizations do that to idiot-proof operations. It's a sign that the membership isn't as effective or capable as needed. That's CAP in a nutshell. It is sad, as I was a proud cadet member in my youth and joined as a SM with enthusiasm while recruiting others. Then reality hit. But, press on. Maybe you'll be a good role model for cadets. I hope so. P.S. I didn't even address the corruption I witnessed.
@@elmoreglidingclub3030 Please address the corruption. I would like more information.
@@unknown4133 If you are CAPNHQ or USAF assigned to CAP, you are only interested so you can learn how to cover your own butt.
But briefly, wing level command staff routinely use CAP fuel cards to fund their flights that other members have to pay for. They drag their feet to reimburse members who pay for utilities (water, electricity) for CAP-owned facilities (and then just refuse to pay), for other services, etc. Assets are assigned to friends, especially at the “colonel level”; it’s who you know, not how effective your unit is. If anything is reported as possible wrongdoing or unethical, investigations are conducted behind closed doors with zero transparency and highly influenced by those in command-whose command is at risk. Members are not allowed to see/review any evidence of anything being investigated. CAPNHQ key personnel is more than a bit nepotistic and anyone questioning decisions are routinely fenced off.
Bottom line, CAP “insiders” uses its fake military command system to protect itself from questions and to use taxpayer funded assets for its preferred use. Any member (and I witnessed this repeatedly) who suggests improving CAP’s mission or who questions availability and assignment of aircraft or vehicles is pressured to shut-up or leave.
The response to weak flying skills among the membership is not to recruit and train better pilots; rather, it’s to layer on endless and detailed regulations designed to prevent activity rather than expand it. It’s as though the pilots are scared to fly. To wit, grass runway activity is not allowed. Taildraggers are not allowed. All the things that are challenging and produce safer, better pilots are simply not allowed. It makes no sense given CAP’s birth and history. They buy expensive “traveling” planes with high maintenance cost glass cockpits-for a mission that demands flying at 1,000’ AGL and looking outside the cockpit. It’s a complete waste of money and doesn’t address either today’s mission or look to the future.
It’s a nasty, stinking cesspool run by self-important people who actually think they hold real rank. Sadly, they’re all doing it on my and your money with zero accountability. And as long as those in the USAF who are assigned to CAPNHQ as “oversight” get their cushy AF jobs for their duration, and have CAP’s expensive Cessnas to fly (and abuse) as often as they want, to accumulate ratings funded by taxpayers, they look the other way.
Is that enough? And, who are you? What is your interest in this?
Wichita ks mid 80s CAP
The grog is bad
After my term is up in C.A.P I ain’t joining the Air Force I’m joining the Coast Guard because that’s mostly what C.A.P does, mainly the CG missions of law enforcement and SAR
Not an airman btw, just saying if I do join
We don't do any Law Enforcement.
@@SA345ytDont you guys assist in searches sometimes?
@@catwithabat7163 Yeah but that's Search and Rescue not Law Enforcement. We do work with LEO though.
Sure is a well kept secret up here! Tried it & did not return. Obsolete to say the least. Used to be a CAP pilot in the 60's but things have gone really sour. Nice plane but do we need the huge expenditure? No!!!!! Good riddance. NH
What's up your ass
John Derby what can we do to improve CAP?