Hey guys I just updated the description with the tutor move guide for shards and the heartscales guide for move relearner! I also forgot to give our water mon surf lol. I am so used to playing more modern pokemon with no hms.
i had more freedom to create a team in BDSP than I do in DP or Platinum. No more HMs locked on pokemon really helped. Hideaways gave some good options. I can even add Mew or Jirachi to my team if I wanted. I always keep the Sinnoh starter in my team because i generally don't like boxing my starter. Never felt right in my opinion.
Also recommend gliscor as a physical ground option - this thing is great and easy enough to obtain by catching gligar and evolving it at night with the razor fang you get after veilstone city
The only time I’ve ever ditched my starter was in black and white 2. My ace in the unova games was always Chandelure so it’s always been my strongest. All of the unova starters have pokemon that are better. I once picked oshawott as my starter then replace it with huge power Azumarill and it was really good. But then I realized that Oshawott has access to water moves way sooner than Azumarill. After that I never replaced my starter again.
Great video! I got a starterless Kalos run planned with Pyroar, Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Tyrantrum, Talonflame and Steelix. It will be my first starterless run!
The one and only time I ditched my starter was Hisuian Typhlosion in Legends Arceus. Just didn’t like how it looked so I went and got an Infernape. I wanted to ditch Delphox so bad when I could have gotten a Mega Charizard but I didn’t.
I'm more & more ditching my Starter asap when I play Pokémon. The biggest exception is my Crystal Legacy Chicorita. So I'm eagerly waiting for the next videos of this series.
Ive actually done that planty of times and im doing it right now as well on my Soulsilver playtrough and its alot of fun to use pokemon ive never used before. My team on soulsilver is: Absol (breed it from Platinum and replaced my Soulsilver starter with that) Kangaskhan Lapras Magneton Xatu Ninetales Im very proud of my team and fun to see how good a pokemon ive never used before can be.
I think it'd be great to make a best teams video for Scarlet and Violet for all the non gen 9 starters, not a team of starters but a team for each of the starters separately. Trying to keep the teams unique with only some reoccuring members from each separate team since they are available in the Indigo Disk and can easily be hatched into eggs and placed in Pokémon Home for a playthrough. Best Team for Swampert Best Team for Totodile Best team for Incineroar Etc etc, use mons from the dlcs in an almost no restrictions like fashion, barring legendaries still of course. Idk, it just seems like a good way to keep the series going with a lot of potential.
If only feebas wasn’t so difficult to find, Milotic would’ve been a great choice. But I love Milotic so much and I’ve fished for Feebas before and I’ll do it again if I ever decide to get another copy of platinum. I’m not about to delete my current save file. I’m trying to get all gold prints at the battle frontier.
So this is just for Platinum. For those of us who only have access to Diamond and Pearl, would a Team of Staraptor, Luxray, Gastrodon, Medicham, Rapidash and Weavile suffice?
If you ever do GSC/HGSS, I would love to see you include postgame mons found only in Kanto such as Houndour and Sneasel specifically, as they will probably never get featured there as they are never usable during the main quest. I'm using a Sneasel/Weavile in my HG team right now (from an egg I traded over).
I am pretty sure for the Dawn stone thing, at least in platinum, there is one near Pastoria city in the bottom right corner of one those marshy mud things.
I think since legends arceus introduced being able to catch Pokémon without battling outside of a safari zone it’s about time they make a game where we aren’t given a starter but berries stun items and pokeballs and our first task is to go to the wild area and catch our own “Starter”
I love these best teams videos! I always put them on a playlist and put them on repeat every now-and-then. I love making different team options so yes please make more. Speaking of, you made a few videos for team (type) team for every game but I think only for 8 types. I guess you just got bored of those? I'm only asking because it's a bit of an OCD trigger for me. I'm fine if you don't want to continue with that series but I'm just curious for the reasoning.
I had the same idea for b2w2 and i settled on stoutland,leavanny,magnazone,golduck,arcanine/ninetales,and unfezant. I know that last ones controversial but it does have access to good physical moves.
gallade is equal or better than medicham in every regard other than defense, which is only 10 points lower. considering huge power, it still has higher attack. feel like it's strictly better
If u have gyarados with dragon dance or Gliscor with swords Dance, u basically destroy Cynthia. This is probably her only biggest weakness. I'm glad that Garchomp doesn't get dragon dance lol.
I always ditch my starter after they get to final Evo I just don't like starter pokemon in general I actually made a rom hack like 20.years where you weren't given a starter cos you played as the safari zone wardens granddaughter from gen 2 and you were sent to the safari zone to start the game and so you got to catch any pokemon you want to use as your "Starter" I just made it so more pokemon appeared in the safari zone and lowered all there lvls to 5
Particularly I think that a best moveset for Staraptor is: Fly Brave Bird/Aerial Ace Return Close Combat. More often than not I caught my self don't wanna use Fly because of its 2 turns. Having a second Flying STAB really comes in handy and the Steel Coverage its not that useful since it has Close Combat, that covers pretty much the same types (Ice and Rock), but Close Combat covers the Steel type as well
@MisticUmbreon why not to try pokemon only introduced in that region only? Your teams are so predicrable you repeat team members so often. Mix it up please!
To be fair the Sinnoh dex sucks so much that a region exclusive team would still be extremely predictable. I can make one off the top of my head not because I know gen 4 but because they're SO common on gen 4 teams: Staraptor, Luxray, Lucario, Garchomp, Floatzel, Roserade.
@@suiway even so its only sinnoh pokemon and thats the most sinnoh experience. Wanna use kanto pokemon? Use then in kanto. Team build from exlusive pokemon to the region is the best way to experience the region. I mean you can transfer pokemon to start journey with proper team. Ever since johto it was the way to go. Transfer the full team of 6 and go with them. Have elekid and magby from the start. Its a shame sinnoh has only two flyers as flayer has to be physical to make use of fly. Yes this dex has not many options for various teams but you can use other pokemon than luxray like Lopunny which is far better and in platinum Loppuny on its own is Cynthias ban. Theres ambipom vespiquen drapion and so many other high quality pokemon. Especislly ambipom is born cut user with stab and technician cut is a proper move. Hell technician is made for weaker moves so rock smash as well would do great on ambipom. There is also the thing which i think was brilliant to use pokemon as other types just like npcs in dp to mix it up.
Honestly having a stater all the way through is so overplayed. Like I get the semi emotional connection people get with their starters, but at some point you gotta switch it up. As long as you have two of every Nintendo handheld and other Pokemon version games, why not be as creative as you can be with team building?
Pokemon fans will tell you with a straight face that Sinnoh has a great dex at the same time as they refuse to play any sinnoh game besides Platinum because of its dex.
Hey guys I just updated the description with the tutor move guide for shards and the heartscales guide for move relearner! I also forgot to give our water mon surf lol. I am so used to playing more modern pokemon with no hms.
Platinum and Heartgold always spoke to me in a way i imagine traveling back to your homeland is like. They'll forever be my favorite games :)
I allways replay them, and trade between my 2 DS:s. So I can get a whole new team every time
Ive been doing starterless runs for every game, its fun cuz you get to use mons youd never get to if you kept the starter
I used corviknight for my 2nd play through of violet
Staraptor is my all time favorite pokemon. So glad to see it get love
i had more freedom to create a team in BDSP than I do in DP or Platinum. No more HMs locked on pokemon really helped. Hideaways gave some good options. I can even add Mew or Jirachi to my team if I wanted. I always keep the Sinnoh starter in my team because i generally don't like boxing my starter. Never felt right in my opinion.
My current playthrough is 6 eggs i traded in. Tyranitar, Cacturne, Sharpedo, Honchcrow, Houndoom, and Weavile.
A mono dark team is really solid
Also recommend gliscor as a physical ground option - this thing is great and easy enough to obtain by catching gligar and evolving it at night with the razor fang you get after veilstone city
I'm excited to watch this. I've been asking for a No starter team for years because then it removes all the confusion of which starter to choose
Thanks mystic for answering my prayers I've always had better playthroughs and better wins without a starter Pokemon when I play main Pokemon versions
This is a FANTASTIC idea! I already love the series
The only time I’ve ever ditched my starter was in black and white 2. My ace in the unova games was always Chandelure so it’s always been my strongest. All of the unova starters have pokemon that are better. I once picked oshawott as my starter then replace it with huge power Azumarill and it was really good. But then I realized that Oshawott has access to water moves way sooner than Azumarill. After that I never replaced my starter again.
Great video! I got a starterless Kalos run planned with Pyroar, Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Tyrantrum, Talonflame and Steelix. It will be my first starterless run!
Rock types are a big problem for that team, four members are weak to it
@@michaelkowal3230 I know, but they got so much coverage and it's Kalos, which includes Mega Aero. I'll be fine
Love this idea. Would love to see it for each gen
I love running flamethrower, dark pulse, thunder fang and iron tail on Houndoom and having rock climb in Mamoswine’s fourth slot comes in handy
I love doing non starter teams. Started doing same type teams when getting a wider selection Pokémon was a lot easier in gen 8 and it was a blast
The one and only time I ditched my starter was Hisuian Typhlosion in Legends Arceus. Just didn’t like how it looked so I went and got an Infernape. I wanted to ditch Delphox so bad when I could have gotten a Mega Charizard but I didn’t.
My actual Mono Water team in Sword was:
Owen/Inteleon (U-Turn/Mud Shot/Ice Beam/Snipe Shot)
Polly/Seismitoad (Earth Power/Ice Punch/Muddy Water/Rain Dance)
Crawdad/Crawdaunt (Crabhammer/Crunch/Rock Slide/Swords Dance)
Pearl/Cloyster w/ HA Overcoat (Icicle Crash/Razor Shell/Rock Blast/Smart Strike)
Dave/Octillery (Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Scald/Seed Bomb)
Samurai/Golisopod (Drill Run/Leech Life/Liquidation/Rock Slide)
I'm more & more ditching my Starter asap when I play Pokémon. The biggest exception is my Crystal Legacy Chicorita.
So I'm eagerly waiting for the next videos of this series.
What no fighting moves on medicham and gallade? What's that about?
Love watching these unique teams ideas for PokeMMO story runs. Great job!
Ive actually done that planty of times and im doing it right now as well on my Soulsilver playtrough and its alot of fun to use pokemon ive never used before. My team on soulsilver is:
Absol (breed it from Platinum and replaced my Soulsilver starter with that)
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Magneton
Xatu
Ninetales
Im very proud of my team and fun to see how good a pokemon ive never used before can be.
Woo! I've been waiting for this!!
Bruh, the best team series is going to continue forever lol
Best team for Sinnoh with only Bidofs. -2034
Here’s to hoping!
I think it'd be great to make a best teams video for Scarlet and Violet for all the non gen 9 starters, not a team of starters but a team for each of the starters separately. Trying to keep the teams unique with only some reoccuring members from each separate team since they are available in the Indigo Disk and can easily be hatched into eggs and placed in Pokémon Home for a playthrough.
Best Team for Swampert
Best Team for Totodile
Best team for Incineroar
Etc etc, use mons from the dlcs in an almost no restrictions like fashion, barring legendaries still of course. Idk, it just seems like a good way to keep the series going with a lot of potential.
This team looks pretty good.
…I have never thought to use ABILITIES to strategize against playthrough battles! Only like raid battles. Basically just power through. Mind blown.
I'd love see this again, do it for Galar since there are plenty of good pokemon their
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If only feebas wasn’t so difficult to find, Milotic would’ve been a great choice. But I love Milotic so much and I’ve fished for Feebas before and I’ll do it again if I ever decide to get another copy of platinum. I’m not about to delete my current save file. I’m trying to get all gold prints at the battle frontier.
The lottery system works for easily finding feebas. Little Google search will have you Milotic'n in no time
correction: Medicham doesn't get huge power, but does get "pure power" which does something similar.
There’s also a dawn stone just left of pastoria city Just go a little past it and it’s hidden north of the first patch of mud
Keep up the great work and videos love the video
So this is just for Platinum. For those of us who only have access to Diamond and Pearl, would a Team of Staraptor, Luxray, Gastrodon, Medicham, Rapidash and Weavile suffice?
Oh damn this is going to be wild
I'm happy Rosalia is in the line because she's one of my most important member of Sinnoh team
If you ever do GSC/HGSS, I would love to see you include postgame mons found only in Kanto such as Houndour and Sneasel specifically, as they will probably never get featured there as they are never usable during the main quest. I'm using a Sneasel/Weavile in my HG team right now (from an egg I traded over).
I am pretty sure for the Dawn stone thing, at least in platinum, there is one near Pastoria city in the bottom right corner of one those marshy mud things.
I think since legends arceus introduced being able to catch Pokémon without battling outside of a safari zone it’s about time they make a game where we aren’t given a starter but berries stun items and pokeballs and our first task is to go to the wild area and catch our own “Starter”
Not having Surf on a single member of your team sounds painful in Platinum.
As someone who doesn't really care for Galar's starters, I'd love to see what that team would look like!
Not using a starter just feels wrong. I could never.
I'm half tempted to try this team out
I love these best teams videos! I always put them on a playlist and put them on repeat every now-and-then. I love making different team options so yes please make more. Speaking of, you made a few videos for team (type) team for every game but I think only for 8 types. I guess you just got bored of those? I'm only asking because it's a bit of an OCD trigger for me. I'm fine if you don't want to continue with that series but I'm just curious for the reasoning.
there is a dawn stone available in pastoria city in the thick mud using the item finder.
I had the same idea for b2w2 and i settled on stoutland,leavanny,magnazone,golduck,arcanine/ninetales,and unfezant. I know that last ones controversial but it does have access to good physical moves.
Ps I think that any playthrough should have ten pokemon in rotation so the next four are krookodile,an eeveelution of choice,renucleus,and haxorus.
i hardly ever use my starter unless it's one i really like like typhlosion or torterra lol nice team 0:13
I just ordered a JP copy of Platinum so this is gonna be interesting..
gallade is equal or better than medicham in every regard other than defense, which is only 10 points lower. considering huge power, it still has higher attack. feel like it's strictly better
When starting a new game. I often try out some pokemon i never used before. So i often ditch my starter😅
How is Bastiodon for a ground choice?
Why Jolteon when Magnezone is better in every stat, except speed, amd has a superior typing, and better movepool?
I’ve done this a few times
SSJ4 Goku is beast!
@@MysticUmbreon fr
know what, no starter teams is refreshing. More pls
2:23 i felt the FSG in that unfortunately
I see Mamoswine, I hit like. Bit sad Roserade didn't make the final cut but poison types kinda suck in Sinnoh, so I understand why.
Can you do a best team with no starters for BD/SP? Would love to see what you come up with
I have a question does a Pokemon nature have that much of an effect on how they perform?
Not entirely especially for ingame I don't think it's needed, but it can help!
Only in competitive play. On a normal playthrough it's not an issue at all.
for comp play its crucial, for hardcore nuzlocking its very helpful, but for normal gameplay it doesnt matter
10% is a lot
I’d like to see best no starter team for kalos since x & y give you 2 starters
If u have gyarados with dragon dance or Gliscor with swords Dance, u basically destroy Cynthia. This is probably her only biggest weakness. I'm glad that Garchomp doesn't get dragon dance lol.
This was a good team.
In Johto version of this, Pick Chikorita then Put on PC
I'm doing this now with gen 2 and have a houndour as my starter
I always ditch my starter after they get to final Evo I just don't like starter pokemon in general I actually made a rom hack like 20.years where you weren't given a starter cos you played as the safari zone wardens granddaughter from gen 2 and you were sent to the safari zone to start the game and so you got to catch any pokemon you want to use as your "Starter" I just made it so more pokemon appeared in the safari zone and lowered all there lvls to 5
I’ll admit that the past two generations, I’ve dropped my starters pretty quickly
are you doing all the regions?
Do the same for black and white
The best team for Sinnoh is... Cynthia's team! 😂
For real 😂😂😂😂
I always had Ice Shard and Avalanche.
Bro make a best team for pokemon redical red v4.1
Can you do one for hgss
Can you make one for unova
please do an Unova no starter best team plz
Best team for XD: Gale of Darkness?
I did it in Black in White 2 also
Since you used a gen 4 game why not do the best cute charm glitch team? Best shiny team with a cute charm starter
Can you please do Hohen next?
Make this a new playlist
just did!
Earliest dawn stone is west of Pastoria.
I tried the challenge in Violet... It wasn't fun.
I already know garchomp isn’t on his list. Due to getting it “too late”
I done it with Blue version and Sapphire
Is this gen 4 or gen 8 sinnoh?
Gen 4!
Time for an emulator 😂 and to use staraptor for the first time ever@@MysticUmbreon
This is specifically *Platinum*, not just gen 4. You cant get houndoom before the post game in Pearl or at all in Diamond.
While playing through Pearl I found a shiny Meditite
Particularly I think that a best moveset for Staraptor is:
Fly
Brave Bird/Aerial Ace
Return
Close Combat.
More often than not I caught my self don't wanna use Fly because of its 2 turns. Having a second Flying STAB really comes in handy and the Steel Coverage its not that useful since it has Close Combat, that covers pretty much the same types (Ice and Rock), but Close Combat covers the Steel type as well
loved it
Nice!
Mamoswine gang reporting in
@MisticUmbreon why not to try pokemon only introduced in that region only? Your teams are so predicrable you repeat team members so often. Mix it up please!
To be fair the Sinnoh dex sucks so much that a region exclusive team would still be extremely predictable. I can make one off the top of my head not because I know gen 4 but because they're SO common on gen 4 teams: Staraptor, Luxray, Lucario, Garchomp, Floatzel, Roserade.
@@suiway even so its only sinnoh pokemon and thats the most sinnoh experience. Wanna use kanto pokemon? Use then in kanto. Team build from exlusive pokemon to the region is the best way to experience the region. I mean you can transfer pokemon to start journey with proper team. Ever since johto it was the way to go. Transfer the full team of 6 and go with them. Have elekid and magby from the start. Its a shame sinnoh has only two flyers as flayer has to be physical to make use of fly.
Yes this dex has not many options for various teams but you can use other pokemon than luxray like Lopunny which is far better and in platinum Loppuny on its own is Cynthias ban. Theres ambipom vespiquen drapion and so many other high quality pokemon. Especislly ambipom is born cut user with stab and technician cut is a proper move.
Hell technician is made for weaker moves so rock smash as well would do great on ambipom. There is also the thing which i think was brilliant to use pokemon as other types just like npcs in dp to mix it up.
I am currently doing a series region mons only, so the one for Sinnoh should be out soon!
"I've never played without the starter" play meganium then, you will consider it 💀
Nice video
Gyarados 😮💨
I genuinely don't get this love for Staraptor... I tried using it, and it's just bad... Togekiss is the far superior option in my eyes.
Honestly having a stater all the way through is so overplayed. Like I get the semi emotional connection people get with their starters, but at some point you gotta switch it up. As long as you have two of every Nintendo handheld and other Pokemon version games, why not be as creative as you can be with team building?
glasscanon team deluxe
At this point I feel like you're just straight up refusing to put Luxray on a best team
don't sleep on dragon dance on gyarados. seriously
Ok another idea, worst team but with the starters
But Medichan has pure power not huge power
Basically the same ability anyways
Houndoom enjoyers unite!
sinnoh only dex is awful. only regional birds. other mentioned mon is from other gens of their former evo.
Pokemon fans will tell you with a straight face that Sinnoh has a great dex at the same time as they refuse to play any sinnoh game besides Platinum because of its dex.
Gabite can beat Volkner no problem.