I believe that the lyric "45" may refer to a 45 degree headturn, just as one might do when they are whipped back into reality. Jack has used this motif in "Gettin My Mom On" so I wouldn't be too surprised if this was the case.
That part about "a dream so terrifying and real it was traumatizing" shook me. I had a really bad one in the beginning of this year. It was as if I had accidentally traumatized myself. Or perhaps my brain had done it for me. Either way, it wasn't pleasant, and I had terrible intrusive thoughts and pseudo-flashbacks because of it for months. Anyway, cool video! Just thought I'd type something out! It was cathartic to hear that it was a real thing, hehe.
I get stress dreams, and last year (2019, not 2020) I had three horrible nightmares in a row in one day, and less notable (but still traumatizing, just not in a row) scattered about. mostly about myself or people close to me dying. it's a reality, and a deeply troubling one at that.
I THINK I FIGURED OUT THIS LYRIC: "I had to hide your obituary under my shelf if it saw the light of my life it wouldn't help" it means that he had to keep the events of this dream (obituary) to himself because if he told his partner it wouldn't make him feel any better!
Another way to interpret the obituary verse would be to focus on the phrase "light of my life" who is the light of his life? His partner of course! I see this as Jack's way of saying "Even if I told them about the dream I had, it wouldn't help me forget about the emotions I felt."
*"Why would my mind weave such pain for me?"* This line in particular stands out to me. I remember a few years ago I had an awful dream where I was walking home from the movies with my younger brother and two figures were following us, once they caught up (presumably to mug us), I urged my brother to run, and one of the figures took my brother in a chokehold, held the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger. Point-blank. Right in front of me. I woke up almost immediately after the gunshot. The next day, my mom was lecturing me about homework assignments she'd found in my bag that hadn't been turned in, and I was already in a pretty bad mood from the dream, but this just added to it, and I began crying. She questioned me on this and I told her about the dream, to which she said; *"I know how it feels, to wonder how your mind could even come up with something like that."*
Man I cannot believe this and your original Rossi's video came out in 2020, I genuinely assumed it came out like 5 years ago with how much it felt we went into a timewarp.
As someone with a plethora of nightmare disorders, psychosis, sleep paralysis, intrusive thought, etc... this song hits close to home with experience. It's nice to have a song for it, even if the song ends up not being about it... its nice to be able to sit with it.
Ive had several dreams that have stuck with me till this day, most of which I probably can't even talk about here without triggering other people, so i can understand where youre coming from with all this.
Actually I'm here for the art, animation and stories as I love this cartoony style and you've got a good commentary voice. The fact that the subject is of Jack is a bonus
To get a little personal: I lost a very dear friend of my in middle school. I remember them being gone was one of the worst experiences of my life. It still haunts me. Specifically cause of the dream I had the night I found out. I was so young and that dream scares me. God it still scares me now. The idea that Jack had a dream that haunted him like that, especially the dream being one of my favorite Jack Stauber songs, is so weird. I was a HUGE Jack Stauber fan in middle school too. So seeing my one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite artist be something I can relate to so much is so…strange. I miss you dude. Thank you Jack. And thank you.
Had a dream where i died, and saw every single person i cared about, slowly forget about me and move on with life, it was really saddening, and i cant forget about it.
I like this interpretation and it makes total sense regarding dreams. The rest of this comment goes on about dream stuff, but it's all to say "This video makes sense and I agree with it." I am by no means an expert on this subject and just recognized patterns from people's experiences as well as my own. *You don't have to read it if you don't care about dreams.* I've noticed that dreams try to exercise subconscious thought that isn't really meant to be remembered, but if the subject matter is one that's particularly cared about, we tend to perceive it much more consciously than we would a normal dream. We typically remember more bazaar dreams for this reason because it makes your mind go "wait a minute..." and *think* about what's going on, oftentimes waking you up in the middle of it. These waking thoughts can be hindered if something affects the subconsciousness greatly, such as a strong emotional response like fear, anguish, or anxiety (like that felt from a monster chasing you, flunking an important test, or losing something dire.) As subconscious thought isn't controllable, it isn't consistent, but human minds follow a lot of patterns and I believe this to be one of them for most people.
The first time I ever really "took-in" this song (read the lyrics and truly listened to it) was a few months after I had a very vivid dream where a fictional character I find comfort in had died. Going by how I was acting, it seemed like we were friends in that dream. But, the death was very mysterious and I never found out the cause. I only saw the body and however they died happened when I was away from them. It was very somber and I can still vividly recall the image of the body and the emotion attached to it. I woke up that night at 4:04am and wrote down the details before "calming down" (it was more of a numb feeling to begin with, so it was more grounding myself I guess) before going back to sleep. I thought about it the whole day afterwards and still think about it periodically.
There's just something about how you did the 'my dumb heart' video that just makes it soooo climactic. Well done. I will never listen to that song the same. Overall, 2/10 it has a little something for everyone - IGN (also I love how you used the Hollow Knight music)
honestly i think it's definitely about an upsetting dream about someone you love dying, however i don't think the song name has anything to do with it. i think he just named it John and Nancy because of how much he thanks them. sometimes i name things really random things that sit in the back of my head.
As someone who has night terrors nearly every night, I love this song. I actually listen to it most nights. It might be concidence but I almost feel that I get them less. Who knows? It's Jack after all
Great interpretation! I think you really nailed the meaning of the song in a way I haven’t heard of before. Also Jack is in two other bands... time to check those out
I always thought the song was from John or Nancy's perspective, as before I knew they were real people I pictured "John and nancy" as an old married couple and one of them had a dream the other died. maybe Jack wrote this song from one of their perspectives after seeing them together, and because they were known as a pair at Rossi's, they feel like 2 parts of one whole.
The fun fact is that on the front doors of Rossi's it says "Sun Sat", which means the days when the market is open, and it sounds like "sunset", so Rossi's is definitely a dark place.
Dreams about death are the worst... Once I had a horrible nightmare that I died and had to watch my family grieve as a ghost. It still makes me feel... anxious? Sad? Depressed? to this day.
I don’t usually comment on videos but I really loved your last one about jack and was excited when I saw this one in my recommended! i think you pretty much nailed it with the analysis, it’s very interesting to get such good insight
You know, getting this youtube video re recommended to me (i saw it was on premiere a little bit ago) after having a weird dream that stuck with me and had me questioning my own brain and new medication all day, it really hits different.
I think where the stranger things idea came up wasn't relating to Jack, but rather his fans. Something that I've done before is, get VERY interested and invested into something, then, when I see anything that even _mildly_ resembles it, my brain links the two together, at least for as long as I'm interested in said thing. I assume people saw the names that were the same as those from their favorite characters from their favorite show, and didn't think further on the correlation.
I wonder if the girl is the same one people talk about from baby hotline. Some people say it's about a girl jack knew and possibly dated. She was going through her personal stuff (i think became homeless), and called suicide hotline. They hung up on her, and she... well... yeah... then again, john and nancy is based in a dream, and baby hotline is based in reality. Hmm...
I always thought John And Nancy was about a fictional character named John having a nightmare where Nancy dies or vice-versa. That was ofc before I saw ur video on Rossi’s
I had a dream about two and half years ago where my boyfriend committed suicide right in front of my eyes. The fear I felt when I woke up in the middle of the night was something I never want to experience from a dream again. We were long distance at the time so all I could do was send him a text and wait. Dreams can absolutely shake you to your core and I still cry if I think about the dream too much and honestly I love this theory!
While I think it's a really cool theory about it being a dream of a traumatic experience, I don't think we should conclude the person in the song is Jack. I never agree with anyone who tries to read the person behind the art as not only is it a pretty narrow way of analyzing artwork, but it can be harmful to the creator. It's still a very good video though, good job dude!
i related to it with my own experience of a friend who had a history with suicide. and how he failed his attempts but the risk of him still being dead haunted me.
John and Nancy might also be about the concept of Rossi's closing (being from the rust belt, it's a familiar feeling to be disappointed by the dissolution of small businesses and subsequent vacant infrastructure) and the world being a darker place without stores like theirs?
Music has infinite ways to be interpreted, each one of us will have our own vision that is created in our subconscious when listening to a song, the beauty is in the artistic vision that we see, it allows us to bond more with certain tunes and not others, but I love the fact that you want, try, and deconstruct what the original vision was that inspired the artist to create the song that obviously sings to you in a wholesome way, and I too am a Stauber fan, his melancholic tones have a hopeful longing undertone, like my favorite, "New Normal" many say it's obviously about COVID, others say it's about surviving trauma, but for me... To me it sings surviving addiction, being in the lowest points of my life, on the streets with no hope, watching those like me, the shadows in the allies, dropping, one by one dying, and realizing how alone they were, and how alone I was, and how I was blocking out my subconscious with drugs, so I didn't have to be, and how those who I cared for around me were doing the same, and the realization I had to exist, that I did want to exist, and being born again, that song brings so much emotion for me, I love it, it reminds me why I still move forward.
You think the VLC Record 2018 song on the archive channel could be related to this too? The lyrics go “A true love died, on Monday, says I.” or something like that. I dunno, I’m just spitballing
I think that this theory really makes sense and the reason why it may be named John and Nacy is that Jack hopes to be in a long loving relationship like John and Nancy I forgot to mention this but I really love your art style especially when animated
holy fuck I saw your john and nancy video a few years ago and loved it but didnt subscribe, then ended up here again without realizing it was the same channel bc I've been on a big Drive45 kick
I just found you out because of the first John & Nancy video but i'll probably stick around for your other ones because of the art and effort put into your content :D I love your personality too so thats a big plus :]
I really think that he dreamed about his sister, she seems to be close to him and even live with him, there’s a story at her Instagram commenting about the kitchen table always being full with teeth all over
I believe that the lyric "45" may refer to a 45 degree headturn, just as one might do when they are whipped back into reality. Jack has used this motif in "Gettin My Mom On" so I wouldn't be too surprised if this was the case.
“World of relief when I woke up” would ONLY make sense if it was a dream,, right?
Yep don't know how it could relate to watching murder but it makes sense as a dream
Sometimes “waking up” is also used as uncovering information, being enlightened of sorts.
He also has a song about finding a lottery card from Rossi's (at least I think it's about that) called "I won a lot of money today"
This is also new to me, thanks!
Huh, Rossi's must be incredibly important to Jack to warrant three mentions.
@@bloodbathbidoof8750 I mean yeah it supplied him with the resources that he needed to make the music in the first place
@@Sleepy-yp4wx Yeah, but it didn't just supply him. He made a connection to it. It sounds like maybe he went on dates or hangouts there.
@@bloodbathbidoof8750and he played so hard that we couldn't stop listening to his music
I also consider myself a winged angel. Great video and I’m glad the Rossi’s mystery is solved!
That part about "a dream so terrifying and real it was traumatizing" shook me. I had a really bad one in the beginning of this year. It was as if I had accidentally traumatized myself. Or perhaps my brain had done it for me. Either way, it wasn't pleasant, and I had terrible intrusive thoughts and pseudo-flashbacks because of it for months.
Anyway, cool video! Just thought I'd type something out! It was cathartic to hear that it was a real thing, hehe.
I get stress dreams, and last year (2019, not 2020) I had three horrible nightmares in a row in one day, and less notable (but still traumatizing, just not in a row) scattered about. mostly about myself or people close to me dying. it's a reality, and a deeply troubling one at that.
Great visualizer for the "My Dumb Heart". I thought Jack had made it for a second.
Up until he showed himself at rossis
I THINK I FIGURED OUT THIS LYRIC: "I had to hide your obituary under my shelf if it saw the light of my life it wouldn't help" it means that he had to keep the events of this dream (obituary) to himself because if he told his partner it wouldn't make him feel any better!
Ok, so, you've seen Jack, you've seen Nancy, but... where's John?
“He’s just standing there... MENACINGLY!”
his voice is soooo calm
I just realized nancy's face is literally the viator album cover lol
Yes😊
LMAO 💀😭
Ah yes, 2 waiting 5 comments 50 likes, and 8 people in live chat. Makes about as much sense as jack stauber's amazing lyrics
135 views, 137 likes
Another way to interpret the obituary verse would be to focus on the phrase "light of my life" who is the light of his life? His partner of course! I see this as Jack's way of saying "Even if I told them about the dream I had, it wouldn't help me forget about the emotions I felt."
This is going to be one of my first real times that I can maybe figure out what one of Jack's songs means
Rossi's could also be where he got the vinyl record mentioned in the "Lights up, 45" line
*"Why would my mind weave such pain for me?"*
This line in particular stands out to me.
I remember a few years ago I had an awful dream where I was walking home from the movies with my younger brother and two figures were following us, once they caught up (presumably to mug us), I urged my brother to run, and one of the figures took my brother in a chokehold, held the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger. Point-blank. Right in front of me.
I woke up almost immediately after the gunshot.
The next day, my mom was lecturing me about homework assignments she'd found in my bag that hadn't been turned in, and I was already in a pretty bad mood from the dream, but this just added to it, and I began crying. She questioned me on this and I told her about the dream, to which she said;
*"I know how it feels, to wonder how your mind could even come up with something like that."*
I thought it was “Why wouldn’t my mind ease the pain for me?”
I love finding these channels before they blow up. It’s like I’m part of a secret club
That's what's so special about this one :D
I’ve loved jack’s work for years, glad he’s gaining more traction
When I was 9 I had a dream that I still remember today, it was my first traumatizing dream.
I figured that he heard about the alfords and mistook them for the john and nancy at rossi's at first
Man I cannot believe this and your original Rossi's video came out in 2020, I genuinely assumed it came out like 5 years ago with how much it felt we went into a timewarp.
As someone with a plethora of nightmare disorders, psychosis, sleep paralysis, intrusive thought, etc... this song hits close to home with experience. It's nice to have a song for it, even if the song ends up not being about it... its nice to be able to sit with it.
Might be a long shot, but could "Just Take My Wallet" be connected in some way?
i can definitely see how that would connect!
Ive had several dreams that have stuck with me till this day, most of which I probably can't even talk about here without triggering other people, so i can understand where youre coming from with all this.
Actually I'm here for the art, animation and stories as I love this cartoony style and you've got a good commentary voice. The fact that the subject is of Jack is a bonus
To get a little personal:
I lost a very dear friend of my in middle school. I remember them being gone was one of the worst experiences of my life. It still haunts me. Specifically cause of the dream I had the night I found out. I was so young and that dream scares me. God it still scares me now.
The idea that Jack had a dream that haunted him like that, especially the dream being one of my favorite Jack Stauber songs, is so weird. I was a HUGE Jack Stauber fan in middle school too. So seeing my one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite artist be something I can relate to so much is so…strange.
I miss you dude. Thank you Jack. And thank you.
Had a dream where i died, and saw every single person i cared about, slowly forget about me and move on with life, it was really saddening, and i cant forget about it.
12:16 as a jonathan, i can sadly attest that a) people misspell it a lot and b) one of them is johnathan, which can be shortened to john
not real
Hello jon
I like this interpretation and it makes total sense regarding dreams. The rest of this comment goes on about dream stuff, but it's all to say "This video makes sense and I agree with it." I am by no means an expert on this subject and just recognized patterns from people's experiences as well as my own. *You don't have to read it if you don't care about dreams.*
I've noticed that dreams try to exercise subconscious thought that isn't really meant to be remembered, but if the subject matter is one that's particularly cared about, we tend to perceive it much more consciously than we would a normal dream. We typically remember more bazaar dreams for this reason because it makes your mind go "wait a minute..." and *think* about what's going on, oftentimes waking you up in the middle of it. These waking thoughts can be hindered if something affects the subconsciousness greatly, such as a strong emotional response like fear, anguish, or anxiety (like that felt from a monster chasing you, flunking an important test, or losing something dire.) As subconscious thought isn't controllable, it isn't consistent, but human minds follow a lot of patterns and I believe this to be one of them for most people.
I absolutely love your little doodle drawings style and the way you explain things! I should've subscribed earlier after watching the first video!
The first time I ever really "took-in" this song (read the lyrics and truly listened to it) was a few months after I had a very vivid dream where a fictional character I find comfort in had died. Going by how I was acting, it seemed like we were friends in that dream. But, the death was very mysterious and I never found out the cause. I only saw the body and however they died happened when I was away from them. It was very somber and I can still vividly recall the image of the body and the emotion attached to it. I woke up that night at 4:04am and wrote down the details before "calming down" (it was more of a numb feeling to begin with, so it was more grounding myself I guess) before going back to sleep. I thought about it the whole day afterwards and still think about it periodically.
There's just something about how you did the 'my dumb heart' video that just makes it soooo climactic. Well done. I will never listen to that song the same. Overall, 2/10 it has a little something for everyone - IGN
(also I love how you used the Hollow Knight music)
honestly i think it's definitely about an upsetting dream about someone you love dying, however i don't think the song name has anything to do with it. i think he just named it John and Nancy because of how much he thanks them. sometimes i name things really random things that sit in the back of my head.
As someone who has night terrors nearly every night, I love this song. I actually listen to it most nights. It might be concidence but I almost feel that I get them less. Who knows? It's Jack after all
I love how in depth this and the previous john and Nancy video was, these are great! I really like them
Great interpretation! I think you really nailed the meaning of the song in a way I haven’t heard of before. Also Jack is in two other bands... time to check those out
jacks animation is so goofy in this and I love it
I love him
I always thought the song was from John or Nancy's perspective, as before I knew they were real people I pictured "John and nancy" as an old married couple and one of them had a dream the other died. maybe Jack wrote this song from one of their perspectives after seeing them together, and because they were known as a pair at Rossi's, they feel like 2 parts of one whole.
yeah sorry for me its "lights up, 33, don't remember the things that always scared me"
Your animations are real impressive, and your videos are good! Ill be sticking around awhile to see what you do in the future
1:28 nice quality
I just realised that john and Nancy's face is jack's album "viator"
when RecordBreaker301 pointed at me at stared with those... cold.. dead eyes.... *_shudders_*
he looked kinda cute ngl
The fun fact is that on the front doors of Rossi's it says "Sun Sat", which means the days when the market is open, and it sounds like "sunset", so Rossi's is definitely a dark place.
Dreams about death are the worst... Once I had a horrible nightmare that I died and had to watch my family grieve as a ghost. It still makes me feel... anxious? Sad? Depressed? to this day.
I think the 45 in the song is also talking about siting up in bed at a 45 degree angle like one does when a nightmare wakes them in movies
i heard the song come on on spotify and almost thought it was a stranger things reference
I don’t usually comment on videos but I really loved your last one about jack and was excited when I saw this one in my recommended! i think you pretty much nailed it with the analysis, it’s very interesting to get such good insight
The mirror dude from Opal was a *nice* touch, also i love the theory :) and your art
Great vid Dave
Love your style of video essays! Can’t wait for your other videos in the works!!
Let’s goooooooooooooooooo! A new video to end off the new year on a high note!
obviously everyone can interpret art how they want to, but i feel like way too many people jump straight to murder
the title could also be because of the record he played, and the comforting aspect of a familiar place that he found support in
I’d love to see you analyze some more songs!
6:13 What, indeed, caused that one dream where my mom murdered someone and though it's funny now, i almost cried of relief when i woke up?
ever since the john and nancy video i've been obsessed with the song- thanks
12:57 that caught me so off guard lmao
once again your editing skills are great, notably the extended cuts of the song you made while explaining things
Love the Crystal Peaks form Hollow Knight in the background
Can't wait for what 2021 holds from your channel! Stay awesome!
I had a reoccuring dream in which I had an extra class that I'd been missing for the entirety of the school-year. Scared the HELL out of me.
YOOOO , I APPEAR IN THE VID :0000000
You know, getting this youtube video re recommended to me (i saw it was on premiere a little bit ago) after having a weird dream that stuck with me and had me questioning my own brain and new medication all day, it really hits different.
Once i dreamed everyone died, when i woke up to a quiet house i was nervous to step out and see if it were true
spooky
i was shocked when you played My dumb hearth, this is so cool man:)
Saludos desde Chileee
I think where the stranger things idea came up wasn't relating to Jack, but rather his fans. Something that I've done before is, get VERY interested and invested into something, then, when I see anything that even _mildly_ resembles it, my brain links the two together, at least for as long as I'm interested in said thing. I assume people saw the names that were the same as those from their favorite characters from their favorite show, and didn't think further on the correlation.
I wonder if the girl is the same one people talk about from baby hotline. Some people say it's about a girl jack knew and possibly dated. She was going through her personal stuff (i think became homeless), and called suicide hotline. They hung up on her, and she... well... yeah... then again, john and nancy is based in a dream, and baby hotline is based in reality. Hmm...
How exciting to see somebody rim Tyler... who would have thought this would end up being THAT kind of channel.
Lmao, good job, Record XD
IM SO PUMPED
Same
2:47 Turns on the lights and goes to fight the enraged guardian
glad to make an appearance in your video you little homestuck boy
_i can't believe jack stauber's music is starting to make sense what_
I always thought John And Nancy was about a fictional character named John having a nightmare where Nancy dies or vice-versa. That was ofc before I saw ur video on Rossi’s
It's really funny seeing a huge story and analysis to a song i'd never heard, til now
I had a dream about two and half years ago where my boyfriend committed suicide right in front of my eyes. The fear I felt when I woke up in the middle of the night was something I never want to experience from a dream again. We were long distance at the time so all I could do was send him a text and wait. Dreams can absolutely shake you to your core and I still cry if I think about the dream too much and honestly I love this theory!
Ooooo. I too am indeed much pumped
While I think it's a really cool theory about it being a dream of a traumatic experience, I don't think we should conclude the person in the song is Jack. I never agree with anyone who tries to read the person behind the art as not only is it a pretty narrow way of analyzing artwork, but it can be harmful to the creator.
It's still a very good video though, good job dude!
i related to it with my own experience of a friend who had a history with suicide. and how he failed his attempts but the risk of him still being dead haunted me.
The my dumb heart music video was incredible by the way
John and Nancy might also be about the concept of Rossi's closing (being from the rust belt, it's a familiar feeling to be disappointed by the dissolution of small businesses and subsequent vacant infrastructure) and the world being a darker place without stores like theirs?
you really just played the it was all a dream card on us
Another scene of Rossi’s was in his HiLo trailer
How i have not found You before , THIS IS AMAZING :D
Music has infinite ways to be interpreted, each one of us will have our own vision that is created in our subconscious when listening to a song, the beauty is in the artistic vision that we see, it allows us to bond more with certain tunes and not others, but I love the fact that you want, try, and deconstruct what the original vision was that inspired the artist to create the song that obviously sings to you in a wholesome way, and I too am a Stauber fan, his melancholic tones have a hopeful longing undertone, like my favorite, "New Normal" many say it's obviously about COVID, others say it's about surviving trauma, but for me... To me it sings surviving addiction, being in the lowest points of my life, on the streets with no hope, watching those like me, the shadows in the allies, dropping, one by one dying, and realizing how alone they were, and how alone I was, and how I was blocking out my subconscious with drugs, so I didn't have to be, and how those who I cared for around me were doing the same, and the realization I had to exist, that I did want to exist, and being born again, that song brings so much emotion for me, I love it, it reminds me why I still move forward.
i luv your art!!! solid opinion, great analysis
This is how I’ve always interpreted this song? Like I was really surprised to see other theories?
BRO ZAKI AND JOOSE ARE LITERALLY MY LIFELINE
What's funny to me is I was listening to "John & Nancy" in the shower last night 😄
Bro I have déjà vu every day
I love your editing!
You think the VLC Record 2018 song on the archive channel could be related to this too? The lyrics go “A true love died, on Monday, says I.” or something like that. I dunno, I’m just spitballing
I think that this theory really makes sense and the reason why it may be named John and Nacy is that Jack hopes to be in a long loving relationship like John and Nancy
I forgot to mention this but I really love your art style especially when animated
real
holy fuck I saw your john and nancy video a few years ago and loved it but didnt subscribe, then ended up here again without realizing it was the same channel bc I've been on a big Drive45 kick
I just found you out because of the first John & Nancy video
but i'll probably stick around for your other ones because of the art and effort put into your content :D I love your personality too so thats a big plus :]
Very interesting I also love the inclusion of the Knuckle Sandwich music I love that game!
I really think that he dreamed about his sister, she seems to be close to him and even live with him, there’s a story at her Instagram commenting about the kitchen table always being full with teeth all over
We need Jack too see this
I just realized he drew John and Nancy like the viator album art
Absolutely love your approach to this and your video style.
I saw myself that's free advertisement in my book
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