Martin Forde Tells The TRUTH About Labour
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Novara Media broadcasts live every weekday from 6PM on TH-cam and Twitch.
_________________________________________________________
Support Novara Media for as little as £1 a month:
novaramedia.co...
Buy Novara Media merch here:
shop.novaramed...
Thanks for continuing to bang the drum on this story; it's genuinely embarrassing that the Labour Party and most media outlets are just ignoring this
"Ignored" or swept under the carpet because it doesn't fit their narrative ?
Even The Guardian didn’t approach Martin Forde! It is now impossible to have any respect for any part of the UK mainstream media.
Elon Muskham has said the mainstream Media Is finished no and credible
The Guardian is no reliable media outlet. They are extremely misandrist and cherry pick issues they report on. And they tell stories instead of reporting facts. There’s too much spin given to issues and anywhere there’s a woman involved, it’ll be portrayed as either heroic or an act of discrimination by, naturally, an man.
Would be great to see Novara do an interview with Forde. It's is frankly unbelievable how Labour and the media have conspired to ignore this story. It speaks volumes.
Keir Starmer was hoping there would be stuff that could be blamed on Corbyn, there wasn't, so he's ignored it.
additionally, it proved Corbyn right in a number of areas, and somewhat exonerated him, so of course that can't come to light.
Exactly this. If the report came back with a damning indictment of Corbyn and The Left, it’d have been on every channel and every major newspaper. We’d have never heard the end of it.
Not "ignored". Buried.
Starmer is a flipping snake.
Thanks for doing the journalism that the British media apparently has no interest in doing.
Al Jazeera did the journalism.
Not apparently,they have no interest whatsoever in covering it!
@@HarryFlowerrs even could argue that they have an active interest in NOT covering it
Aljazeera investigations has whole department dedicated to investigations separate with own budget
That’s how Starmer deals with everything, he did & said what he had to, to take over Labour.
Is certainly completely unconcerned about any of the pledges he made!
Reminds me of OFCOM dealing with complaints about right wing media, out of 3500.00 they upheld ONE ☝🏾!!
Labour following in the Tories’ footsteps. Commission a review as a means of kicking a tricky issue into the long grass. Await the results and then when they arrive, ignore the recommendations safe in the knowledge that the media will also ignore it
Yep, the old wait for the general public to forget. It works frustratingly well.
The fact that Starmer uses it makes him inherently untrustworthy.
Every conversation I've had with people who still support Labour either have no idea what he is doing or are more concerned with Labour gaining power rather that what they will do when they have it.
Would NEVER see this news story on the BBC. No wonder theyre so scared of social media tbh
Would be great to see Martin Forde being interviewed on Downstream!
rather than Qatari state media
@@johntaylor4143 why not both? I'll take the exposure of the actual story, regardless of source, rather than commit a 'Fallacy of Virtue'.
@@M2Mil7er some will assume that the story is accurate and not biased. Some will assume that it might be biased with a hidden agenda. Its a very seductive piece..
@@johntaylor4143 I think it's down to the viewer to make no assumptions, and instead see the facts presented within as a counter to the misleading (and actually seductive) Panorama hit piece, which really made no pretense from the outset of being an objective work of journalism. Whether they can bear their world view being challenged with reality is another matter, sadly.
@@M2Mil7er the truth is usually found somewhere in the middle.
Another damning indictment of BBC & Panorama
The conspiracy of silence on this from the media and even the anti-Brexit Left TH-cam channels is disgusting.
Ive challenged a few of those channel owners and they just dont want to hear any bad news about the right wing of Labour or Starmer
Agree, 'A Different Bias' is a massive offender in that area. I ended up clicking "don't recommend channel" so I don't have to see his BS in my feed anymore.
Yes a very disturbing silence on the Labour Files' documentaries and the Forde report from avowedly left wing TH-cam channels. It's very peculiar. Well done for challenging some of them. This is absolutely core to the desperate need for constitutional and electoral change of this authoritarian, top-down feudal kingdom.
"Anti Brexit Left TH-cam Channels". That says it all!
John Wares reputation deserves to be damaged.
OK he wasn't the one telling the lie, but as a journalist he should understand about verifiable claims, especially when they involve another person. The fact that Erica Bird was not contacted nor allowed to reply to an overt accusation against her, and that her accusers story was just accepted without question. His response was to say that the offence took place after the recording was switched off, at which point with a lack of direct evidence you absolutely need to give Ericas side of the story so we can make our own minds.
Utterly biased and one sided, and perhaps not by John Wares own volition or personal plan but entirely deliberate in my opinion.
I stopped watching BBC over 20 years ago now. They still had a decent reputation then. Now they use the last dregs of that reputation to give legitimacy to biased politically motivated propaganda essentially. And Chomsky's principles of manufacturing consent are in full swing. If it's any other nations national broadcaster it's state mouthpiece propaganda, but with the beeb it's impartial independent etc etc... pull the other one.
Chomsky is always spot on
The Dr Kelly and "sexedup dossier" affair, with Blair coming down on the BBC like a ton of bricks to save the legitimacy of the illegal war that followed, was a watershed moment that spelt the end of what little remained of the BBC's political impartiality. It became the annexe of Downing Street pretty much, from that point on...
Indeed always made me laugh how there is a disclaimer on Facebook saying RT is Russia State Sponsored media which is right of course but no similar disclaimer for the BBC!? Went to the cinema a couple of months ago and before the film there was an advert for BBC essentially propagandising for themselves in which they repeatedly said words like truth and trust honesty and integrity was audacious as it was surreal as is they had done a party political broadcast with help from Tory party press office, there’s another one called Trust is earned where they make similar claims where they say phrases like “corroborate claims” “check and verify” “be reluctant to rely on a single source” “all information should be weighed to get to the truth” and finally summarise by saying if you know how it’s made you can trust what is says” honestly.
It would be interesting to see a long interview featuring Ware and Forde where they discuss the methodology they used and why they reached their respective conclusions. Hosted by Novara Media of course 🤓
Lee Anderson was a long time member of the Labour party, so I'm not surprised there are unpleasant people in the Labour party.
I have lost faith in the BBC a while ago. But I am genuinely baffled that Chanel 4 and ITV chose to ignore a serious documentary such as the Labour File and the findings of the Forde report.
Similarly, every member of the shadow cabinet denied watching the programme. My concern is that Starmer’s Labour will be worse in government than the current ruling Tories.
I share your concern and suggest that Starmer's Labour will be perceived as more civil but their actually policies will in no way right the ship nor stem the rot. Nothing will change and voters will quickly become even more disillusioned and have voters remorse.
I see a Labour govt under Starmer as incredibly disappointing with a few tweaks here and there but ultimately it will be more Tory policies continued but with less smirking about it. Im amazed that some people think Starmers govt will suddenly swing to being left wing...but how? He's purged the left from the party!
Starmer is about as left wing as David Cameron
I'm not baffled at all. Both conservative and liberal media wanted Corbyn gone. It was one of those channels, that before the last election did a biased program on Labour's most popular policy: rail- renationalisation. They had Portillo on there and some libertarian think-tank policy-wonk arguing that not only should rail, a near natural-monopoly, not be nationalised, but things like schools should be privatised too!
@@skyblazeeterno Tory psy op
Any quote”filleted” is done usually for one reason to change the original meaning!!
Panorama typically no self reflection at all,
The problem with Panorama is that they were searching for something to back up a narrative they already had, which with what we know of the BBC now makes perfect sense.
To threaten a barrister with legal action, not a good idea??
Novara must drive this story into the mainstream British media. Keep raising it
Living in times where integrity isn't an asset isn't a time I wish I was living through ✌
Can see why Forde is a respected KC and, regrettably, can see why Starmer's Labour have virtually ignored his conclusions. British politics offers little hope.
I got a copy of the report, I read it… I care about the truth that’s why I left the Labour Party 😢
You can't even mention the Forde report on the Guardian CIF you get moderated straight away.
Wow!
It’s true. Also if you question the Ukraine war.
Drag the party determinedly to the Right, and we're surprised to see a rise in racism? What did anyone expect to happen?
I honestly thought that inquiry would be a whitewash.
But it wasn't. It was just ignored.
That’s Labour’s credibility in the toilet. No, that’s new Labour’s reputation in the toilet. I wish they would let go and stop.
Why did Panorama HAVE to do that documentary at that time???
To convince the people that Jeremy corbyn was a racist. Of course he isn't but some people are gullible and believe the right wing media. 🙄
Blue rinse Starmer .. Tory to the Core ..
Amazing how the policy of Labour and the MSM is to just ignore any report they don't like!
Starmer sat on this report for a long time. He was hoping for some dirt on JC, he was disappointed!!!!!
Fascinating and powerful stuff guys. A balanced and skilfully delivered reflection. Thankyou.
*what you need to point out is that the ignoring of the report is itself racist. Forde is a black man, this cannot be ignored!*
Astonishing that Panorama appear to not realise that their poor journalistic practice is the problem, not the Forde report for revealing it??
I hav worked in an area where I saw that Panorama were very biased. or useless at research - seems less likely. So I am with Martin Forde on this, he seems more l;ikely to be accurate.
Christ BBC protected Jimmy savile for decades 😳
@@jake751 True, we know know that many people knew about his habits.
Starmer and his diet tory squad needs to outed.
Wake up people this isn't the Labour Party it died when Tony the War criminal taken over
What it actually shows is that the approach even to anti-Semitism is purely performative gatekeeping.
Gatekeepers are among the most insurmountable barriers to genuine progress, because they inevitably lack the depth of understanding to take genuinely progressive principles in anything other than un-nuanced, soundbite form. The general idea of what's true on any given issue is a case of 'following the crowd at chow time'.
And of course, such an approach is not only openly bigoted against other minorities (the legal term for a hierarchy of this nature is 'discrimination'), it's actively anti-Semitic, which is how it leads to the a largest purge of Jews in history.
Starmer's a wrong 'un, on just about every metric. Do. Not. Trust. This. Man.
Vote Green. It's your only option!
Thank you. This is very disturbing and disappointing that there is such devastating indifference to the truth amongst the Labour hierarchy in Britain. That means they are culpable. The sooner the UK ditches first past the post and gets proportional representation the better. Then people can vote for better parties than what Labour has been for most of the last 60 years.
There is no party in Parliament that will bring in proportional representation. They are all so dishonest and hope to jump on the gravy train it will never happen! We are doomed!
These what's ap messages are disgusting why is this not being talked about !!!!!
Forde calmly sums up Ware's problem: the former interviewed people from every side of the issue. The latter cherry-picked his interviewees, and their accounts were drastically lacking in both credibility and honesty.
Forde Report - The Musical?
What do you have to do to get mainstream media to engage with such a fundamentally important issue regarding the quality of our democracy?
I can’t wait for “the Forde report a musical the series”
12:50 for their effort, it helped the Conservative Party, giving us Johnson, Truss and Sunak. As though that's no big consequence.
There should have been a documentary on Jennifer Arcuri and the thousands of pounds of public money that Boris Johnson facilitated for her, whilst they were having a sexual relationship during his time as London Mayor.
Why why why... Have we not started a new Socialist Party led by Corbyn ??... It's long overdue
Outstanding journalism.
There is a subtext to the whole “one media outlet contacted me on the day of publication… then never got back to me” thing that we are not hearing about.
I would bet my last quid that the conversation went along the lines of:
- Can we come and do a piece with you about how your report confirms that Corbyn and The Left are all awful antisemites?”
- Erm, you might want to actually read the report first.
They probably went away, read the report, realised its conclusions did not fit their narrative, and therefore didn’t bother calling back because the story got shelved.
The EHRC investigated Labour and as Corbyn has suggested, the claims of anti-Semitism were politically motivated to remove Corbyn from power as the US were concerned as others in the right wing including Guardian, Telegraph and Mail by the shift to more socialist doctrines. The EHRC barely investigate any major public interest issue so to launch a fully fledged investigation into a political party was unprecedented.
Same as it ever was, all across our society…
Well done NM... You're basically doing what we're all lazy to do. I Don't always appreciate how important you are. But I do get how important you guys are. You're not even left. You're so so so, middle and awesome.
Thanks!
The truth sets you free every time.
Political parties will shift the pendulum of ideology depending on if they are in power or if they are in opposition.
Opposition mode: they will be a friend to everyone.
Power mode: they will look after themselves.
Between this report and the Labour Files documentary, I have serious concerns about a future Labour Government but I don't want them being used to keep the Conservatives in Government.
Panorama either chose to speak to one side or was only given access to one side. Forde looked at both sides of the discussion.
Labour and the media ignoring Martin Forde's report is also damaging his reputation by doing so.
Typical mainstream politics... "We want to do everything by the book and have everything reviewed by independent experts, unless they tell us something we don't like to hear".
We all know what the truth is why this story isn't featured in mainstream media. It isn't difficult to find (we all managed to find it, must be better than mainstream journalists as they keep somehow managing to miss these really important things).
Under Starmer the labour party is no better than the national front and the BNP.
that's ridiculous
What better way to celebrate 300K followers than getting Forde on Downstream? Cherry on top would be if he outs him as Keith.
liquidway: I beg your pardon?!
We need a new Guy Fawkes, a successful one! 🔥
🤣🤣 I always say if I could be somebody else for 1 day I'd come back as guy fawkes and finish the job off.
Based
Oh we so need you Navara, never give up.
I lost all faith in BBC Panorama when they tried to set up Tommy Robinson on a rape charge and fk all was done about it.
I can't understand WHY you are surprised that the Forde Report was buried; why the Labour Party is not interested. The Labour Party is, unfortunately, following its usual path in which Labour Party bureaucrats and careerists hold the whip hand. However, there are very many in the Labour Party who won't draw the logical conclusions: Labour is thoroughly rotten and they need to leave the Starmer Party. Starmer and his cronies have absolutely no interest in those who Labour should represent.
Novara need to make this big. Labour is not Labour nor working Class.
But just look at the 👍 only 201. Says it all doesn’t it?
@@elaineedgar2913 The main problem I see is that people are ignoring Starmers authoritarianism and the purge of the left from Labour and take any criticism of Starmer as somehow a support for the Conservatives
@@skyblazeeterno Rise of the Neo-Con, delivered by a Blairite infestation.
The Neoliberal Party
Of course Labour aren't working class. They hate the working class. They even despise their own members.
Good work as per usual NM!
Michael, you too. Anchor and a half
We have Hobson's Choice
I'm not at all surprised by this
If you have the chance, I highly recommend African American author, Isabel Wilkerson's book "Caste; The Origin of our Discontent" which explains this same "unspoken racial hierarchy observed" in more nuanced terms than the binary of racist/not
Sadly Labour is not fit for purpose,, I will never Vote Labour as long as STARMER is leader
so you let tories win? bravo. that will show em?
@@kanedNunable tories red tories blue whats the effing difference. Oh we'll be a bit nicer while we stamp on the poor and allow the accelerating hoover up of wealth to corporate/rentier parasites.
@@kanedNunable oh yes I’m sure Tory victory is hinged entirely on Tahir’s vote. The unfair election advantages the Tories have create minimal impact when we compare them to the power behind Tahir’s singular vote.
@@kanedNunable the red or the blue Tories?
At least they’ll appeal to the 52% now.
I’d love to see the sunak video featured by ‘the new statesman’ about taking money from deprived areas.
Robin Hood vibes
He gives me rumpelstiltskin vibes
Where are we now?, Have you asked him?
You need to talk to Forde. That would be epic. It's ridiculous that nobody aside from you guys are calling Labour out for the report.
Friend of mine had been a member of Labour for years. Thrown out with no explanation. (She voiced support for Palestinian Rights on social media though)
But I thought it was the corbynites who were the racists??!!
No. The problem is that they are democratic socialists
Grow up.
@@jake751 ?
@@jake751 the OP was being sarcastic....
Okay, not going to lie though... why are those messages automatically about her skin colour? Rather than her complete ineptitude or perhaps how they just feel about her overall as a person? I just really don't see how this is automatically about her skin colour.
I have been trying for months to buy a book via ORBooks (paid for it months ago) but it keeps getting the publication date delayed. The title? “ The weaponisation of anti-semitism”. Will try for it via my local library. Um.
Or try the recent Tony Greenstein book.
Getting rid of Corbyn was important.
Racism etc. was not important.
Also Sprach Starmer.
BAstani, you're bloomin good like. 😮😮😮
Martín not Tom🤦♀️
Me and my dad used to look after. Martin fordes dad ralph
I have come to the conclusion that people in public life only care about the truth as it applies to them directly. If not, then why would they waste their time worrying about the little thing that is truth if it has zero impact on them? Or it goes against what is beneficial to these people? Truth in politics is optional and has not been mandatory as it should be in quite some time. 🙄🤔😕
Would we ever see TDLR take on the Lorde report? 🙄
I understand that we on rhd left should scrutinise ourselves and hopefully be beyond reproach but is it me or is this why we struggle to win elections..we undermine ourselves in rhe public eye ..
I can t think that the Tories ever do that ..theh circle the waggons and do dome bs what about ism and move on ax fast ad possible..now I know that's scuzzy but for us to get them out we need at times to play the bloody game ..just a thought..by the I fo appreciate this channel.and a lot of east it puts out ..
It’s not in labour’s or the media’s interest to report on the Forde report. It is in the people’s interest, but what do labour or the media care about that?
No doubt about it,
That E mail has been”filleted” result is obviously misleading!!
❤️
The Big Lie have you seen that?
Ford could not have been paid going rate for King's Counsel as labour's finances are too poor.
how to take down the Entitled Elite without the Ordinary human suffering
BTW never knew tom Forde was black. 😮😮😮😮
Tom Ford the designer is white Martin Forde (KC) is black
The only “truth” about this, is that this guy voices the opinion of the majority of Rangers fans. Most of us can’t be arsed with the pettiness of Douglas park and the union bears, and view them as clowns on a par with Peter Lawwell and the green bridge. Let’s all grow up and watch the fitba.
IF you ever need a regular person, obnoxious and devil's advocate at all times. I'd love to try arguing with you guys. 😂
👏😁
Like deployed 👍
If you vote labour at the next election your beyond hope.
That is the biggest problem with UK politics. Rotten corrupt Tories or a Labour party in total chaos due to outside interference by third parties.
🤠💜
Disgusting
I wonder if Martin Forde KC wasn’t overly interested in a peerage…
"I was just putting the case for Mao."
Diane Abbott’s infamous words
Based
@@briandelaney9710more like famous.
Murdoch runs maiin stream media surprised not
Since when have the trots cared about the truth,
"Nobody else is going to report this!"
Me, quietly reading an article in the Guardian about this while listening to your interpretation that was released only a few days after this (because the Guardian has editors)...
Well. Ok then.
Ain’t nothing perfect in multi cultural society it’s in human nature most keep to their own , Malcolm x told us that the Jim Crow laws after the civil rights in America will just be a fork tongue