I worked at both United and City's grounds installing/updating their new broadcasting studios. One major thing i noticed is that the atmosphere amongst the staff for each ground were poles apart. Everybody seemed happy at City's ground, happy to talk, happy to help. Just happy to be there. Whereas at United's ground, it was fucking miserable. Nobody who worked there wanted to know you, they didn't care who you were or what you were doing.
@@marcusking8507 ...and rats on the pitch according to a H&S report, leaking roof, leaking dressing room...but the leaks i like are those into de Gea's net...which leaves the fans rather...leaked off shall we say...
As a Man United fan, this was almost therapeutic. I try to focus on all the good memories the club has given me. Speaking of which, any chance we get a video on Beckham’s time at United???
2-4 years ago, I was excited about McTominay. I genuinely thought that we had found our own Fletcher to help solidify the defense. So sad that it turned out this way with him.
Bad coaching doesn’t help. He has the fitness, the physical attributes and the attitude to succeed. What he lacks is entirely mental and the absolute lack of coaching in the past half decade is never more evident than when analysing McTominay.
I recently started watching your vids and I've been binging them so much lately. Well researched themes and stories, great humour and your accent also helps. Keep it up!
I'm a United fan, born and raised in Manchester, so standardly I have a fair few City mates I've grown up with over the past 30 years. Saturday was an all time low, lower than even the 6-1. We all met in the pub after the matches, then went back to a mate's gaff with cans to watch MOTD. The City fans we're genuinely crying with joy, real tears, during the United highlights. Never been so miserable in all my life. The blind faith supporter in me still feels we can beat Liverpool on Monday, but my head is also fully aware this could be the worst season ever. Again, great vid Tinashe regardless of the subject. Sad times but chin up lad. GGMU
Having Casemiro and VDB filling out the CDM roles might be the magic bullet we need, but there's still a gaping hole in the back 4. Obviously the fridge has to go. But Shaw and Dalot, while fairly good at fufilling the wing-part of "wingback" - while they've been consistent at applying extra pressure in the flanks of the final third, their actual production when it comes to chance creation is less than stellar. Methinks it would be an even higher hurdle to clear with TAA thrown in against them. Not to mention the aforementioned wingbacks are not the best when it comes to defending their own flank in return... And we still haven't mentioned an out of form Bruno, an out of form Rashford, and a very disgruntled Ronaldo. However, if magic is indeed created, I think Ronaldo might just stay.
@@munmunyee Mate I'm fully with you there, it's been a real shame with Shaw since his leg break, he comes back sparklin every now n then, but yeh, he's more Stella than Stellar... Been saying for years now, he always looks rough, like he's had a night out on the tiles before a game. Dalot.... Yeah pass on that one. He's kinda alright on the wing, but if he's pedaling back in the box I swallow my own tongue every time. Bruno has real class, we all know that, he just doesn't get the chance to play his football atm because we have crabs for midfielders (passing sideways... sideways... back... sideways... back.... sideways... etc) ffs it's painful. Rashford..... Lord only knows what's going on with him. His heads gone, he's right off the wagon. Heard that he's bringing a rap song out with that melt "Dave". Jesus wept, says it all really. If he doesn't sort it out though he'll be playing for Carlisle come February.
I knew this was coming back in July, when Harry Maguire was confirmed as captain _again._ Consider what it communicates to everyone else on Man U's roster when this guy is gifted the armband again despite his consistently shambolic leadership of the defense. How can any of Man U's players be motivated?
And man, I remember how LVG brought the FA Cup trophy into the post match interview to prove a point, just to get binned a few hours later. I feel that he was treated unfairly harshly.
@Will Stubbs if u say the problem is multi faceted, then u cant say that LVG wasn't suitable for the long term rebuild. Despite the awful slow football he played in his second season, he was doing the right thing in terms of long term planning, promoting a lot of youths.
@@lexkanyima2195 thats what i meant, the 1st commenter said LVG wasn't suitable for the job but by his CV he clearly one of the most qualified, and United problems wasnt just a Manager's problem, its the whole culture set by the owner
Great video. But as a United fan I felt some issues weren't addressed in this video. - Glazers Incompetence in running this club. - Fans not backing Ole to leaf United to the promised land - Lack of silverware since 2017. - High player wages.
@smth 9021 Anybody who saw Man United under Mourinho will tell you how dull and defensive that football was. It worked in the first season only. After that we were getting humiliated
Ten Hag knows now that his pre-season plans are out of the window. If he wants to stand A chance against Liverpool and others, he can only park the bus and hope for something that resembles "counter football". Forget about one touch football, forget about lettin the ball run, forget about tactical play with and without the ball, forget about anything that comes even close to the standard of national and international football. His fundamentals from defence and midfield are not there. He needs a world-class goallie and a world-class defence , just to start with.
@@philsarkol6443 I dont think he will survive long enough to implement his style, his only hope is to play counter attack and try and get players in over a few transfer windows to make his own team.
@@goticogordo brev? It means it's good to see other clubs rising and other clubs falling. Not Man U specific, but there's no rule that states "once a big club always a big club". Thus, it's not a shame, nor is it a pleasure really, it's just... Sport and competition. That's why it can remain interesting.
Man do i feel bad for you, you've been a united fan your whole life, and as a city fan, it's heartbreaking, but on the good side, it's Always enjoyable to see united absolutely get beaten
The Casemiro and Fred Combo works for the Brazilian national team so there's no reason why it shouldn't work for Man United right? Harry Maguire: "Hold my beer"
Mason Greenwood was their catalyst, he scored in the games where united desperately needed a goal (pre Ronaldo). Him rightfully going to jail was what to me, the start to the new low United started facing.
Greenwood started in the Liverpool and City games at Old Trafford last season which was what really got Ole sacked, he might have made a slight difference but the downfall was well underway when he got arrested
I imagine a lot of the dressing root issues stemmed from it, you never know what's going on behind the scenes, but it's hard to imagine that the revelation didn't have a significant impact on squad synergy.
I think the magic of the soljkaer temporary role was having a midfield of Matic, Herrera and Pogba, they covered each other well. When Herrera got injured we started to suffer and it continued till the end of the season. If it was evident then that we needed a CM and no action was taken one can wonder how poorly this club is run.
I don’t know why I keep watching videos like this - watching United play each week is enough punishment. Actually I do know why, it’s cause it’s a Football Iconic video. Keep up the great work, even if it does make a little bit of me die inside to watch videos like this.
my grandfather was a Man united fan, i was a city supporter all the way back in 2005 just to piss him off 😂,, I wish that he was still here just to see the roles of the two clubs are completely reversed Rip 💐
Your Content is always great. The build up, the synergy between visuals and information, your personal effort and last but not least your great voice. Thank you so much.
I'm going to be honest I'm a disaster tourist and ManU is one of my favorite places to look at to have a good laugh. Even in late Fergie times I felt ManU was having way more luck than quality and he bailed at the correct time as if he knew the peak of overperforming was reached. Anyways for people like me it's going to be a brilliant season to follow, especially after they signed a 30-year old that never really peak performed for tons of money and a huge contract. It's not looking good, bruv. Despite everything, what a wonderful put together video !
The infuriating thing is I felt Mourinho was doing a great job before the Sanchez destabilised the squad. Solskjaer was frustrating as he was inflexible but again having such a stable squad felt destabalised by having to accomodate Ronaldo. Not Ronaldo's fault it just didnt seem like the same team that were Europa finalists a year earlier. Will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can build form after a rough start and see his vision fulfilled at the club.
I stayed up till 5am in Australia to watch Brentford beat us 4 - 0. After the 2nd goal I knew we were going to witness history and I had to stay up to watch it haha Went to Sunday league the next day tired as fuck, and we lost 4 - 1 and the coach told us after the game to watch Brentford vs Manchester United, so we could learn what NOT to do. This is made worse by the fact that about a 3rd of the team are Man City fans (most mental part of this story is that a man city fans exists) and they had not heard about the result yet. Fun times for post match banter, haha. Thanks for the vids as always Tinashe! Really happy to see some sponsorships! You deserve the payday man.
Mourinho is known for getting the best out of what he has. At Madrid he had players he wanted, he eventually won La Liga with a record 100 points playing some of the most electric counter attacking football ever seen. At United he didn't, so he played boring defensive football, and still left with a Europaleague, League cup , Fa cup and comm shield. Firing him was the worst decision that club has made, shouldve sold Pogba immediately after the Mourinho spat.
Was planning to go see the Liverpool match with my dad before I leave the UK as I didn’t know when I could see the next match would be. But after that Brentford game we decided we weren’t gonna go cause of how awful they were.
Ralf was 100% spot on when he said the club needed open heart surgery. I think the owners and the board underestimated his analysis and that led to him leaving in the summer. I don’t blame ETH in any capacity for the results early this season. The pattern is there, the behaviour of the players. The point about the ownership is crucial. The Glaziers have taken £1bn in dividends since taking over in 2005. If they did not have to meet this and annual £60m interest payments they would have had an additional £1.6pm in potential transfer fees. They could have blown any team out the water with their financials.
I love your videos but as a united fan after watching this I’m pretty depressed about the state of united. I think I’ll hide under my bed when we play Liverpool.
As a City and football fan, the downfall of United in recent times has gotten me conflicted. It's amazing to see United fans constantly shouting about their "history" finally shutting up almost a decade after Ferguson left, but it's really sad knowing that my favorite game of the year will likely not be exciting anymore.
Part of Man U's decline (especially recently) is the rise of all five of the other "big six" clubs. For example, when Ole finished 2nd and 3rd, Arsenal and Spurs completely shat the bed, and Chelsea was too inconsistent. Last season and this season, all the other clubs strengthened and seem to have direction & the hunger to win
My perspective as an Arsenal fan : Man Utd will not allow what happened to Aubameyang and Ozil at Arsenal happened at Man Utd. Arsenal fully backed Arteta to froze out Aubameyang and Ozil then terminate their expensive contract because the cost out weight the damage. And Man Utd renewed Phil Jones contract until 2023.
Used to hurt so much when we lost, now I feel nothing… no thrill in football like your team winning and winning in great fashion, don’t even have that option anymore
I have a theory about why things went south in 21/22 and I've yet to hear anyone else mention it. In the 3rd or 4th game of the season, Harry took a knock to his knee, but he didn't come out of the game and he kept playing every game after. This was the beginning of his decline and every side we faced seemed to be aware of it as they made a fool of time and again. I'm not sure if losing him would have gone any better, but I'm pretty sure (80%) that Harry was playing injured and everything just seemed to unravel once that thread was pulled. Just my theory but, go back and watch those games if you can and you might find where he got hurt. He has never been the same since.
United need to go through what Liverpool did, they need a full refresh, slowly weed out every name and get used to midtable for a few years to build a foundation to grow from
Great video as usual. It should be illegal to buy a club with its own money. The game against Brentford was hilarious. Reminded me of England vs. Iceland
The constant firing of managers, overpaying players who just aren’t plain good enough like Fred, Maguire, Martial and Rashford are primary problems. Then factor in poor recruiting as well as the players being too soft and can’t be yelled at. The culture in football has to change. No player is too big to be yelled at for a poor performance. Mourinho, Van Gaal and Moyes are all good managers. Why they got fired is beyond me. I hate United but the solution is simple. Give the manager 5 years, don’t expect miracles.
I think too long was spent looking at the managers, when the issue appeared to be with the players. Most are good players, but good players don't always equate to a good team. The owners have to be looked at too, and so too the attitudes of the players, how much they're paid and building from there.
It all started going wrong when they sold Ronaldo for 80 mil and replaced him and Tevez with Owen, Valencia and Obertan. It's been downhill from there.
Bro you're videos got me hyped up again for football i stopped watching for a few years but i am all in again. also get aboard the real madrid hype traiiin!
You should have reminded us on how Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Martial ,Fred were responsible for making united what's now . Seems like this Maguire uses charms in maintaining his captaincy.
The biggest issue is with Maguire. If you have a completely inept player as your captain and getting game time despite being worse than horrible, it sends a bad message to the rest of the team. Mediocrity is ok, tolerable, acceptable, or even to be rewarded. Then there is Rashford, who is more interested in being a wannabe philanthropist than actually putting in a performance on the pitch. I pity Shaw, Martial, and Fred to a certain extent. Shaw had a horrible injury record IIRC and having to cover for a Maguire sized black hole day in day out is not going to be good for your mental health. Same with Martial, with the club pining for the likes of Lukaku, Sanchez, and Cavani up top over him. Then again, his poor loan spell didn't help his case. For Fred, he has never been given a chance to shine alongside a proper CDM. He is better going forward but because he is shackled to McTominay, who is also better going forward, the partnership suffers.
Sir Alex Fergusion and Arsene Wenger got a whole lot of kids/teens to support Arsenal and United, as a born Liverpool fan, I'm enjoying watching a club like United have no idea understanding they never really had a philosophy, it was Fergie and the Fergie way
The more I learn about European football Manchester united reminds me more and more of the Dallas cowboys. For those who know, you know. From the fans to the field it's like a parallel. You have players who are WAY better than they play and fans who are so lost in the nostalgia of the past that they buy what ownership is selling for the hope of that sweet sweet black tar nostalgia. 😂
You forgot to mention the fact that they seem to always have some sort of scandal every now and then involving players in the first 11.. Giggs, Ronaldo, Greenwood etc...
I'm a Bayern Munich fan and I always enjoy the rivalry between ManU in the Champions League. Both sides have memorable matches. I always loved whenever we have the chance to beat ManU. But seeing ManU now...this makes me sad and I feel for them, y'know? Even though that I expect Bayern to win against ManU, I always want to see ManU at their highest level. At the level of them deserving to be in the Champions League. I hope they'll get back to their feet soon and reach top level again.
Don't forget the fact that Rangnick straight up came out and told everyone that most of the squad had to be replaced in order to progress. He was then removed from the club and nothing has changed🤣 It's just laughable how this club is being run
Crazy to see how bad some of the players are performing at United - a lot has to come down to manager and the clear soft belly in that midfield - even so, with the pedigree of players and investment, is a shock to see how off the pace they are so far….that being said, I low key love seeing them perform bad!
@@BigSmokeMUFC Dude arsenal were not winning anything since 04. United are declining rapidly since 2013. If nothing changes forget mid table u lot will be struggling for a 12th place finish
City had a Director of Football there recruiting technical players for 5 years before Pep got there. Fernandinho, KDB, David Silva, were all there. He says I need a keeper who can play out and a CB and they went and got them.
I feel like the only thing that will get the Glazers out is if we as supporters are willing to stop. They clearly only care about the money, not the football. If we stop attending matches and stop buying merchandise until they leave, hopefully they will sell up quickly.
I keep seeing people say Maguire is not as bad as people think, but when you watch him it's clear he is. Honestly every game he makes a shambolic mistake that leads to a goal, often more than once. No other defender in the PL would continue to get game time with his record
Man United are a big club, a giant, and to see this one great dominant club fall from grace so hard is unfortunate and sad. My friend supports Leeds and even him, while he is proud of the rivalry between the two, said the glazers have leeched and ruined them.
I just want to say with regards to the 2013 title winning team. The key changes were Paul Scholes leaves, SAF and David Gill leave. The key coaching team leave. So it is not like for like. You have a major disruption of players accustomed to behaviours they consistently follow day in and out for weeks, months and years. Anyone new slips into this pattern. First training is disrupted with no gradual shift. Including the famous 'chips' comment from Ferdinand. Second the key passing and player positioning patterns are disrupted to accomodate the Manager's change in style and key signing. How can we expect results to be consistent to the season before when the coaching, training and tactics changed from the season before? Felaini is not Scholes and plays a completely different role. Maybe someone like Fabregas could have played a role to keep united competative and playing similar football, but Felani is a complete departure from the prior mode of play.
I start by saying I'm a Liverpool supporter. Last year, I was so surprised to see Man U drop sooo low ! I mean, they seemed like they were on the up, they brought insane players like CR7, Varane and Sancho, and Solkjaer looked to be in control, though he's not the best tactician there is. So, to thrash them 0-5 at Old Trafford and then 4-0 ! I was very happy about it of course, but very surprised too. I trully expected Man U to be third, and closing the gap to City and us, like 10 points behind or something. But Man U is the perfect example that if your owners don't give a shit about football, you can do whatever you want, the odds are very strongly against you. Even if you're the richest club in the world, spend 1.5 billion in 10 years trying to get the best players and managers. On the opposite side, at Liverpool, our owners (other Americans) are specialized in sports first, which is a good thing, arrived when the club was at a historic low, but they did everything to bring back the club to the top and achieved it in just nearly 6 years. The Glazers bought a club on the top of Football, had years and years under one of the greatest managers ever, with the capacity to stack money to prepare the post-Ferguson era, they had the money and reputation to bring in whoever they wanted not only as manager, but as director of football and as CEO, and even as scouts, coaches, etc... And yet, when Ferguson left, the club crumbled... It all starts with the fact that for the Glazers, Manchester United isn't a fan favourite football club, that inspires millions of people all around the world. For them, it is a cow that produces a lot of milk. So they milk it like crazy, they focus only on the business side of things. I don't even understand why they decide to bring players the managers don't want. What is the point? Why bring Fred, Fellaini the legend, or take insane risks like with Sanchez? Who decides those things? I don't wish Man U to win, obviously, but I'm not wishing Manchester fans to be desperate either. We Liverpool fans were desperate from 2009 to 2015 (except the 2013-2014 title chase) and that is hard. I want our biggest rival to be strong so that the Derby of England continues to mean something ! We'll see what happens tonight, but Man U looks so weak and fragile... If the Glazers are to stay, the best thing would be to give ten Hag some time, time to rebuild, time to build his own team and develop his style. Look how much time it took Klopp to bring us in title contention. In 2015-2016 we finished 8th ! Man U would have just sacked him ! Then we finished 4th twice in a row. Nothing exceptionnal right? But then we finished 2nd and won the UCL, then the PL the next year. Now we are extremely strong. And Klopp had a much weaker side when he arrived than what Ten Had has right now !!! So, give him time. He won't build a world class team in one year (most likely anyway), but give him 3 years and you may be in title contention once again. We'll see. See you tonight Man U fans, I hope we Liverpool kickstart our season tonight !!!
Ten Hag did well against Liverpool but the biggest problems still remain. Bad players will keep getting regular time and the owners will remain the same. Ten Hag will either get the sack or leave eventually.
I have to question Erik Ten Hag's legitimacy, when he decides to run over Ralf Ragnick a man who is the goat of rebuilds and the father of gegenpressing. I think he really thought he could do the same thing he did at Ajax, with a squad that's nowhere near top 4 level. The thing is Ajax has become in the past years, much better than the rest of the teams in the Eredivisie, and he can basically play however he wants, because Ajax has much better players than any other team in the league. Some might even call him, delusional.
I feel like with enough time and trust and faith in ETH, United can come back, it’s gonna take a few years for ETH to build the team that he wants that plays the football he has visioned, same as how Liverpool took 3-5 years to start competing with city for titles.
If United doesn't score against Liverpool or Southampton, they'll have to nominate their "Goal of the month" for August, as an own goal
Ngl i want to see that
Lol brilliant
By Maguire no less.
Remember Arsenal goaless start last season.🤣
@@diy_naga Key words "last year"
I worked at both United and City's grounds installing/updating their new broadcasting studios. One major thing i noticed is that the atmosphere amongst the staff for each ground were poles apart. Everybody seemed happy at City's ground, happy to talk, happy to help. Just happy to be there. Whereas at United's ground, it was fucking miserable. Nobody who worked there wanted to know you, they didn't care who you were or what you were doing.
That's interesting. A bad atmosphere behind the scenes is bound to have at least some impact on the pitch.
It's the impact that good ownership can have. Good owners pick good managers, and down the chain it goes until you get to the lower level staffers.
@@marcusking8507 ...and rats on the pitch according to a H&S report, leaking roof, leaking dressing room...but the leaks i like are those into de Gea's net...which leaves the fans rather...leaked off shall we say...
@@edwardcardona717 most of the managers were on the fans' wishlist, so they can't complain
@smth 9021 What do you mean by "the TH-camrs fired Mourinho" ?
“Not in my lifetime” - Sir Alex Ferguson
Oof
What would not happen in his lifetime?
@@marricksinon2057 he said United would never be underdogs in a Manchester derby
@@MrJarrydLee damn.
And he was right.. Not in his lifetime as a Manchester United manager.
As a Man United fan, this was almost therapeutic. I try to focus on all the good memories the club has given me. Speaking of which, any chance we get a video on Beckham’s time at United???
Just get an old school shirt used and never support the glazers again
@@hsthatzo8063 already got one mate!
Absolutely a beckham video and park ji sung
Your story telling is immense brother! You almost got me feeling sorry for Man United 😂😂
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…almost!
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LIES!!!!
@@FootballIconic didn't know you are a Man Utd fan like me.
2-4 years ago, I was excited about McTominay. I genuinely thought that we had found our own Fletcher to help solidify the defense. So sad that it turned out this way with him.
Bad coaching doesn’t help. He has the fitness, the physical attributes and the attitude to succeed. What he lacks is entirely mental and the absolute lack of coaching in the past half decade is never more evident than when analysing McTominay.
Fletcher was bang average! He stopped looking like a decent player the minute Fergie retired.
@@joshua7734 tbf going from a ST at youth level to CDM in the 1st team wouldnt help
@@Euclides287 you probably doesn't know fletcher career get ruin with Injury chronic sick
Mctominay is good, so is Fred, but they simply shouldn’t be starters
I recently started watching your vids and I've been binging them so much lately. Well researched themes and stories, great humour and your accent also helps. Keep it up!
Couldn’t agree more with you. Popped up into suggestions and have not regretted watching that first video I saw. Keep up the amazing work
Same here. After watching one, I had to watch them all. Problem is that now I've watched them all.
I'm a United fan, born and raised in Manchester, so standardly I have a fair few City mates I've grown up with over the past 30 years. Saturday was an all time low, lower than even the 6-1. We all met in the pub after the matches, then went back to a mate's gaff with cans to watch MOTD. The City fans we're genuinely crying with joy, real tears, during the United highlights. Never been so miserable in all my life.
The blind faith supporter in me still feels we can beat Liverpool on Monday, but my head is also fully aware this could be the worst season ever.
Again, great vid Tinashe regardless of the subject. Sad times but chin up lad. GGMU
Having Casemiro and VDB filling out the CDM roles might be the magic bullet we need, but there's still a gaping hole in the back 4. Obviously the fridge has to go. But Shaw and Dalot, while fairly good at fufilling the wing-part of "wingback" - while they've been consistent at applying extra pressure in the flanks of the final third, their actual production when it comes to chance creation is less than stellar. Methinks it would be an even higher hurdle to clear with TAA thrown in against them. Not to mention the aforementioned wingbacks are not the best when it comes to defending their own flank in return...
And we still haven't mentioned an out of form Bruno, an out of form Rashford, and a very disgruntled Ronaldo. However, if magic is indeed created, I think Ronaldo might just stay.
@@munmunyee Mate I'm fully with you there, it's been a real shame with Shaw since his leg break, he comes back sparklin every now n then, but yeh, he's more Stella than Stellar... Been saying for years now, he always looks rough, like he's had a night out on the tiles before a game.
Dalot.... Yeah pass on that one. He's kinda alright on the wing, but if he's pedaling back in the box I swallow my own tongue every time.
Bruno has real class, we all know that, he just doesn't get the chance to play his football atm because we have crabs for midfielders (passing sideways... sideways... back... sideways... back.... sideways... etc) ffs it's painful.
Rashford..... Lord only knows what's going on with him. His heads gone, he's right off the wagon. Heard that he's bringing a rap song out with that melt "Dave". Jesus wept, says it all really. If he doesn't sort it out though he'll be playing for Carlisle come February.
@@munmunyee also... "Kept you waiting huh?" Big Boss lives in all of us bro, love the name. Huge respect.
Feel the pain..really do
Feeling any better now mate?
I knew this was coming back in July, when Harry Maguire was confirmed as captain _again._ Consider what it communicates to everyone else on Man U's roster when this guy is gifted the armband again despite his consistently shambolic leadership of the defense. How can any of Man U's players be motivated?
And man, I remember how LVG brought the FA Cup trophy into the post match interview to prove a point, just to get binned a few hours later. I feel that he was treated unfairly harshly.
@Will Stubbs 👍🏻 agreed.
@Will Stubbs if u say the problem is multi faceted, then u cant say that LVG wasn't suitable for the long term rebuild. Despite the awful slow football he played in his second season, he was doing the right thing in terms of long term planning, promoting a lot of youths.
@@d1want34 so why it work well for him at Ajax, Barca, Bayern and the Dutch national team (2012-2014 period) ?
@@lexkanyima2195 thats what i meant, the 1st commenter said LVG wasn't suitable for the job but by his CV he clearly one of the most qualified, and United problems wasnt just a Manager's problem, its the whole culture set by the owner
@@d1want34 good point 👍🏻
Great video. But as a United fan I felt some issues weren't addressed in this video.
- Glazers Incompetence in running this club.
- Fans not backing Ole to leaf United to the promised land
- Lack of silverware since 2017.
- High player wages.
I mentioned all of those.
Except for the Ole bit- fair enough.
@smth 9021 I think Ole being a former manU player....shone a more empathetic light on him as compared to LVG and Jose...
@smth 9021 Anybody who saw Man United under Mourinho will tell you how dull and defensive that football was. It worked in the first season only. After that we were getting humiliated
I miss Ole tho. He's still at the wheel I heard. 🤣
I slightly feel bad for Ten Hag, because he has little in terms of power to do anything about it, yet this will be bad for his carreer.
Yet he must have known what he was signing up for?
He didn't pay attention when Ralf was there?
Ten Hag knows now that his pre-season plans are out of the window. If he wants to stand A chance against Liverpool and others, he can only park the bus and hope for something that resembles "counter football". Forget about one touch football, forget about lettin the ball run, forget about tactical play with and without the ball, forget about anything that comes even close to the standard of national and international football. His fundamentals from defence and midfield are not there. He needs a world-class goallie and a world-class defence , just to start with.
@@philsarkol6443 I dont think he will survive long enough to implement his style, his only hope is to play counter attack and try and get players in over a few transfer windows to make his own team.
@smth 9021 there is no serious traning at all.
Such a shame how a big club like Man Utd fell off so badly. 😪
I think quite the opposite, how great it is to see other challengers and something else happen
@@jordge92 what does that even mean brev? lmao
@@goticogordo He has a point, what's the point of watching a sport where the same teams win every time? Makes it boring as hell
@@oicz that's how football works
@@goticogordo brev? It means it's good to see other clubs rising and other clubs falling. Not Man U specific, but there's no rule that states "once a big club always a big club". Thus, it's not a shame, nor is it a pleasure really, it's just... Sport and competition. That's why it can remain interesting.
Man do i feel bad for you, you've been a united fan your whole life, and as a city fan, it's heartbreaking, but on the good side, it's Always enjoyable to see united absolutely get beaten
And everyone else enjoys seeing Man City bottle the UCL every season.
barkers like you would make noise polution either if united gets beaten or not
Stick to brawl stars mate
Some salty united fans in the comments are just a cherry on top, the club needs a lot of work
@@ramyssou you re a loser barking from basement for attention anyway
The Casemiro and Fred Combo works for the Brazilian national team so there's no reason why it shouldn't work for Man United right?
Harry Maguire: "Hold my beer"
International football is shit.
For England Harry Maguire is considered good.
Mason Greenwood was their catalyst, he scored in the games where united desperately needed a goal (pre Ronaldo). Him rightfully going to jail was what to me, the start to the new low United started facing.
Greenwood started in the Liverpool and City games at Old Trafford last season which was what really got Ole sacked, he might have made a slight difference but the downfall was well underway when he got arrested
@Will Stubbs do you not hear the audio?
@Will Stubbs i think he means the audio that proved him guilty.
@Will Stubbs Sorry to tell you this, but there's an audio out there that pretty much 100% proves him guilty man. Just look for it, it's REALLY bad.
I imagine a lot of the dressing root issues stemmed from it, you never know what's going on behind the scenes, but it's hard to imagine that the revelation didn't have a significant impact on squad synergy.
Jose Mourinho: "The greatest achievement in my career was getting Man United to finish second.". He was not wrong at all.
Obnoxious as he may be, the man speaks truth from time to time.
Ironic i just got this today recomended
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Manchester City with 0 UCLs and Real Madrid with 5 UCLs in between that time...
As an on and off writer I really appreciate the work put into this video🙌🏾. Subscriber from Kenya🇰🇪
I think the magic of the soljkaer temporary role was having a midfield of Matic, Herrera and Pogba, they covered each other well. When Herrera got injured we started to suffer and it continued till the end of the season. If it was evident then that we needed a CM and no action was taken one can wonder how poorly this club is run.
I don’t know why I keep watching videos like this - watching United play each week is enough punishment.
Actually I do know why, it’s cause it’s a Football Iconic video. Keep up the great work, even if it does make a little bit of me die inside to watch videos like this.
my grandfather was a Man united fan, i was a city supporter all the way back in 2005 just to piss him off 😂,, I wish that he was still here just to see the roles of the two clubs are completely reversed
Rip 💐
You and Tifo are by far the best football channels on TH-cam
Keep it up bru
Here after United finished 3rd in the league
My god, those statements at the end from Mourinho and Rangnick were *_crushing_*
Your Content is always great. The build up, the synergy between visuals and information, your personal effort and last but not least your great voice. Thank you so much.
I'm going to be honest I'm a disaster tourist and ManU is one of my favorite places to look at to have a good laugh. Even in late Fergie times I felt ManU was having way more luck than quality and he bailed at the correct time as if he knew the peak of overperforming was reached.
Anyways for people like me it's going to be a brilliant season to follow, especially after they signed a 30-year old that never really peak performed for tons of money and a huge contract. It's not looking good, bruv.
Despite everything, what a wonderful put together video !
The infuriating thing is I felt Mourinho was doing a great job before the Sanchez destabilised the squad. Solskjaer was frustrating as he was inflexible but again having such a stable squad felt destabalised by having to accomodate Ronaldo. Not Ronaldo's fault it just didnt seem like the same team that were Europa finalists a year earlier.
Will be interesting to see if Ten Hag can build form after a rough start and see his vision fulfilled at the club.
I stayed up till 5am in Australia to watch Brentford beat us 4 - 0. After the 2nd goal I knew we were going to witness history and I had to stay up to watch it haha
Went to Sunday league the next day tired as fuck, and we lost 4 - 1 and the coach told us after the game to watch Brentford vs Manchester United, so we could learn what NOT to do. This is made worse by the fact that about a 3rd of the team are Man City fans (most mental part of this story is that a man city fans exists) and they had not heard about the result yet. Fun times for post match banter, haha.
Thanks for the vids as always Tinashe! Really happy to see some sponsorships! You deserve the payday man.
I remember all the United fans giving us all grief when we were in school during the 2000s. This all brings a smile to my face
It’s so satisfying to watch. Can’t think of a fanbase that deserves it more.
My reaction to seeing them _at the bottom of the table_ was to die of laughter 🤣my dad was not amused. Me and mum were though.
Mourinho is known for getting the best out of what he has.
At Madrid he had players he wanted, he eventually won La Liga with a record 100 points playing some of the most electric counter attacking football ever seen.
At United he didn't, so he played boring defensive football, and still left with a Europaleague, League cup , Fa cup and comm shield.
Firing him was the worst decision that club has made, shouldve sold Pogba immediately after the Mourinho spat.
With Casemiro coming to Trafford, I must say. It's a graveyard club. It's like an MLS team being in the Premier League.
Was planning to go see the Liverpool match with my dad before I leave the UK as I didn’t know when I could see the next match would be. But after that Brentford game we decided we weren’t gonna go cause of how awful they were.
Considering your long-term support of the club... this was inevitable. And as always, love hearing your level-headed insight on the matter.
Ralf was 100% spot on when he said the club needed open heart surgery. I think the owners and the board underestimated his analysis and that led to him leaving in the summer. I don’t blame ETH in any capacity for the results early this season. The pattern is there, the behaviour of the players.
The point about the ownership is crucial. The Glaziers have taken £1bn in dividends since taking over in 2005. If they did not have to meet this and annual £60m interest payments they would have had an additional £1.6pm in potential transfer fees. They could have blown any team out the water with their financials.
Great video bro, as an Arsenal Fan since 2000 I couldn't have written a better script for the fall of united, however it's now too sad.
I love your videos but as a united fan after watching this I’m pretty depressed about the state of united. I think I’ll hide under my bed when we play Liverpool.
We top 4 now boys
As a City and football fan, the downfall of United in recent times has gotten me conflicted.
It's amazing to see United fans constantly shouting about their "history" finally shutting up almost a decade after Ferguson left, but it's really sad knowing that my favorite game of the year will likely not be exciting anymore.
Part of Man U's decline (especially recently) is the rise of all five of the other "big six" clubs. For example, when Ole finished 2nd and 3rd, Arsenal and Spurs completely shat the bed, and Chelsea was too inconsistent. Last season and this season, all the other clubs strengthened and seem to have direction & the hunger to win
My perspective as an Arsenal fan : Man Utd will not allow what happened to Aubameyang and Ozil at Arsenal happened at Man Utd. Arsenal fully backed Arteta to froze out Aubameyang and Ozil then terminate their expensive contract because the cost out weight the damage. And Man Utd renewed Phil Jones contract until 2023.
As a Chelsea fan this is absolutely hilarious
Oh no…
Used to hurt so much when we lost, now I feel nothing… no thrill in football like your team winning and winning in great fashion, don’t even have that option anymore
if their spending policy is anything to go by i have a bag of "magic" beans and a bridge to sell them
we won against liverpool less go
I have a theory about why things went south in 21/22 and I've yet to hear anyone else mention it. In the 3rd or 4th game of the season, Harry took a knock to his knee, but he didn't come out of the game and he kept playing every game after. This was the beginning of his decline and every side we faced seemed to be aware of it as they made a fool of time and again. I'm not sure if losing him would have gone any better, but I'm pretty sure (80%) that Harry was playing injured and everything just seemed to unravel once that thread was pulled. Just my theory but, go back and watch those games if you can and you might find where he got hurt. He has never been the same since.
United need to go through what Liverpool did, they need a full refresh, slowly weed out every name and get used to midtable for a few years to build a foundation to grow from
But "30 years" ? It will be longer then that.
Love the history recap and the link to the current situation. Well done lad
They are getting close to needing to move on from de Gea, he's making too many mistakes
Good luck vs Liverpool man, oh and keep the epic content coming King 💪
Great video as usual. It should be illegal to buy a club with its own money. The game against Brentford was hilarious. Reminded me of England vs. Iceland
The Andy Tate clip got me crying 😭
The constant firing of managers, overpaying players who just aren’t plain good enough like Fred, Maguire, Martial and Rashford are primary problems. Then factor in poor recruiting as well as the players being too soft and can’t be yelled at. The culture in football has to change. No player is too big to be yelled at for a poor performance. Mourinho, Van Gaal and Moyes are all good managers. Why they got fired is beyond me. I hate United but the solution is simple. Give the manager 5 years, don’t expect miracles.
I think too long was spent looking at the managers, when the issue appeared to be with the players. Most are good players, but good players don't always equate to a good team. The owners have to be looked at too, and so too the attitudes of the players, how much they're paid and building from there.
It all started going wrong when they sold Ronaldo for 80 mil and replaced him and Tevez with Owen, Valencia and Obertan. It's been downhill from there.
Bro you're videos got me hyped up again for football i stopped watching for a few years but i am all in again. also get aboard the real madrid hype traiiin!
You're spot on with everything in this video.
Saving this for my tea. Can't wait, another banger you're amazing bro keep blowing up!!
You should have reminded us on how Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Martial ,Fred were responsible for making united what's now . Seems like this Maguire uses charms in maintaining his captaincy.
The biggest issue is with Maguire. If you have a completely inept player as your captain and getting game time despite being worse than horrible, it sends a bad message to the rest of the team. Mediocrity is ok, tolerable, acceptable, or even to be rewarded.
Then there is Rashford, who is more interested in being a wannabe philanthropist than actually putting in a performance on the pitch.
I pity Shaw, Martial, and Fred to a certain extent. Shaw had a horrible injury record IIRC and having to cover for a Maguire sized black hole day in day out is not going to be good for your mental health. Same with Martial, with the club pining for the likes of Lukaku, Sanchez, and Cavani up top over him. Then again, his poor loan spell didn't help his case. For Fred, he has never been given a chance to shine alongside a proper CDM. He is better going forward but because he is shackled to McTominay, who is also better going forward, the partnership suffers.
Sir Alex Fergusion and Arsene Wenger got a whole lot of kids/teens to support Arsenal and United, as a born Liverpool fan, I'm enjoying watching a club like United have no idea understanding they never really had a philosophy, it was Fergie and the Fergie way
You should have waaay more subs…keep up the high quality videos and you will get them! 👍
They watched your video and said enough is enough
The edits were class and funny as hell bro, your videos are consistently improving and they’re already so good.
Keep up the great work man 🙏🏼
The more I learn about European football Manchester united reminds me more and more of the Dallas cowboys. For those who know, you know. From the fans to the field it's like a parallel. You have players who are WAY better than they play and fans who are so lost in the nostalgia of the past that they buy what ownership is selling for the hope of that sweet sweet black tar nostalgia. 😂
Only 10 minutes in and just wanna say once again a high quality video. Great work!
This is a very clear explanation for someone like me who has just been following Manchester united for two months!! thank you!!
You forgot to mention the fact that they seem to always have some sort of scandal every now and then involving players in the first 11.. Giggs, Ronaldo, Greenwood etc...
I'm a Bayern Munich fan and I always enjoy the rivalry between ManU in the Champions League. Both sides have memorable matches.
I always loved whenever we have the chance to beat ManU. But seeing ManU now...this makes me sad and I feel for them, y'know?
Even though that I expect Bayern to win against ManU, I always want to see ManU at their highest level. At the level of them deserving to be in the Champions League.
I hope they'll get back to their feet soon and reach top level again.
Why I am getting this notification now. We're on the come up baby.
Nice vid bud, I love the background and history
Mad how things have turned around in a few weeks.
At this point I firmly believe that the only solution is a complete restart top to bottom (except for ETH), it’s far stretch, a fantasy, but still ..
Don't forget the fact that Rangnick straight up came out and told everyone that most of the squad had to be replaced in order to progress. He was then removed from the club and nothing has changed🤣
It's just laughable how this club is being run
Im a liverpool fan, but it’s sad to see a once great club fall so far
They didn't feel sorry 4 u during your drought years
Crazy to see how bad some of the players are performing at United - a lot has to come down to manager and the clear soft belly in that midfield - even so, with the pedigree of players and investment, is a shock to see how off the pace they are so far….that being said, I low key love seeing them perform bad!
This won't give Arsenal a UCL unfortunately.
@@BigSmokeMUFC my man youre still stuck in the past. no one knows what will happen in the future bruh
@@BigSmokeMUFC Dude arsenal were not winning anything since 04. United are declining rapidly since 2013. If nothing changes forget mid table u lot will be struggling for a 12th place finish
@@zachpajat720 even in the future, ur small club will never win a UCL
@@bhutochakrabarti4173 and u lot will still be a smaller club 🤫
City had a Director of Football there recruiting technical players for 5 years before Pep got there. Fernandinho, KDB, David Silva, were all there. He says I need a keeper who can play out and a CB and they went and got them.
You're one of my favorite TH-camrs, bro... BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!!!! MORE OF IT!!!! HAVE FUN IN THE VANARAMA NATIONAL LEAGUE IN A FEW YEARS!!!!!
Arsenal fan 🤣 even if we go in our lowest point we'll still be bigger than ur tinpot club will ever be. Enjoy bottling Top 4 again 🤣.
This is awesome I’d love to see break down of record vs money spent
I feel like the only thing that will get the Glazers out is if we as supporters are willing to stop. They clearly only care about the money, not the football. If we stop attending matches and stop buying merchandise until they leave, hopefully they will sell up quickly.
Broo add the to the playlist.... I love working to football iconic playing in the background
Good lord , I am glad we had ole , but the gap when we finished 2nd and 3rd was so big that it didn’t matter
CL at least
they are going to pay around 100 for Antony 🤣😂😂🤣 yes please from an Ajax fan
A moment of silence for Casemiro who just joined ManU
After hearing that 'it's complicated', my first thought was that Manchester United's troubles can be boiled down to a single word: Glazer.
Thanks for this one. Getting a clear view on how and why.
I keep seeing people say Maguire is not as bad as people think, but when you watch him it's clear he is. Honestly every game he makes a shambolic mistake that leads to a goal, often more than once. No other defender in the PL would continue to get game time with his record
Man United are a big club, a giant, and to see this one great dominant club fall from grace so hard is unfortunate and sad. My friend supports Leeds and even him, while he is proud of the rivalry between the two, said the glazers have leeched and ruined them.
I just want to say with regards to the 2013 title winning team. The key changes were Paul Scholes leaves, SAF and David Gill leave. The key coaching team leave. So it is not like for like.
You have a major disruption of players accustomed to behaviours they consistently follow day in and out for weeks, months and years. Anyone new slips into this pattern.
First training is disrupted with no gradual shift. Including the famous 'chips' comment from Ferdinand.
Second the key passing and player positioning patterns are disrupted to accomodate the Manager's change in style and key signing.
How can we expect results to be consistent to the season before when the coaching, training and tactics changed from the season before? Felaini is not Scholes and plays a completely different role. Maybe someone like Fabregas could have played a role to keep united competative and playing similar football, but Felani is a complete departure from the prior mode of play.
Rangnick reportedly told the board they would need up to 8-11 new players. Guess he was right.
I start by saying I'm a Liverpool supporter.
Last year, I was so surprised to see Man U drop sooo low ! I mean, they seemed like they were on the up, they brought insane players like CR7, Varane and Sancho, and Solkjaer looked to be in control, though he's not the best tactician there is. So, to thrash them 0-5 at Old Trafford and then 4-0 ! I was very happy about it of course, but very surprised too. I trully expected Man U to be third, and closing the gap to City and us, like 10 points behind or something.
But Man U is the perfect example that if your owners don't give a shit about football, you can do whatever you want, the odds are very strongly against you. Even if you're the richest club in the world, spend 1.5 billion in 10 years trying to get the best players and managers.
On the opposite side, at Liverpool, our owners (other Americans) are specialized in sports first, which is a good thing, arrived when the club was at a historic low, but they did everything to bring back the club to the top and achieved it in just nearly 6 years.
The Glazers bought a club on the top of Football, had years and years under one of the greatest managers ever, with the capacity to stack money to prepare the post-Ferguson era, they had the money and reputation to bring in whoever they wanted not only as manager, but as director of football and as CEO, and even as scouts, coaches, etc... And yet, when Ferguson left, the club crumbled...
It all starts with the fact that for the Glazers, Manchester United isn't a fan favourite football club, that inspires millions of people all around the world. For them, it is a cow that produces a lot of milk. So they milk it like crazy, they focus only on the business side of things.
I don't even understand why they decide to bring players the managers don't want. What is the point? Why bring Fred, Fellaini the legend, or take insane risks like with Sanchez? Who decides those things?
I don't wish Man U to win, obviously, but I'm not wishing Manchester fans to be desperate either. We Liverpool fans were desperate from 2009 to 2015 (except the 2013-2014 title chase) and that is hard.
I want our biggest rival to be strong so that the Derby of England continues to mean something ! We'll see what happens tonight, but Man U looks so weak and fragile...
If the Glazers are to stay, the best thing would be to give ten Hag some time, time to rebuild, time to build his own team and develop his style. Look how much time it took Klopp to bring us in title contention. In 2015-2016 we finished 8th ! Man U would have just sacked him ! Then we finished 4th twice in a row. Nothing exceptionnal right? But then we finished 2nd and won the UCL, then the PL the next year. Now we are extremely strong.
And Klopp had a much weaker side when he arrived than what Ten Had has right now !!! So, give him time. He won't build a world class team in one year (most likely anyway), but give him 3 years and you may be in title contention once again.
We'll see.
See you tonight Man U fans, I hope we Liverpool kickstart our season tonight !!!
Accurate summary... depressing but accurate .
Ten Hag did well against Liverpool but the biggest problems still remain. Bad players will keep getting regular time and the owners will remain the same. Ten Hag will either get the sack or leave eventually.
I have to question Erik Ten Hag's legitimacy, when he decides to run over Ralf Ragnick a man who is the goat of rebuilds and the father of gegenpressing. I think he really thought he could do the same thing he did at Ajax, with a squad that's nowhere near top 4 level. The thing is Ajax has become in the past years, much better than the rest of the teams in the Eredivisie, and he can basically play however he wants, because Ajax has much better players than any other team in the league. Some might even call him, delusional.
It’s ice cold how great this man’s videos are 🥶
I admire the strength to even make this video. I've been depressed since fergie left
I feel like with enough time and trust and faith in ETH, United can come back, it’s gonna take a few years for ETH to build the team that he wants that plays the football he has visioned, same as how Liverpool took 3-5 years to start competing with city for titles.
Bruh the internet trolling will not let that happen lol
@@saladtossing4332 Seriously? The internet trolling is the cause you found for Man United not work long-term? Wow....
@@saladtossing4332 internet is full of morons spending more time woofing than going outside
Man U have been rebuilding their squad since Ferguson left lol
ETH needs to pass BTC to happen
Rocommended after united's draw vs crystal palace. Still holds true more than 2 years later😢
Hi mate, great upload! It was an absolute joy to watch, hehe United are still tanking.
As a Liverpool fan, my week was made again. 👍
But seriously, great video.