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@@abdullahstrongman How can you be 100 percent sure that Mark Henry has never taken steroids? How can you say that about someone you've probably never met yourself? Were you perhaps Mark's best friend? LOL and you saw everything that goes on behind closed doors. Good advice for you is. Never put your hand in the fire for someone else, you never know for sure what secrets someone is carrying.
@@abdullahstrongman There is not even testing for PEDS in the strongman competitions. They can take what they want literally and figuratively. Every strongman takes PEDS/steriods just like every professional bodybuilder does. I'm sorry if I burst your bubble but steroids are part of the strongman competition. it's just too much of an advantage… recovery, explosive power, etc…
You seem to be ignorant of Paul Anderson..... Look him up if you want to know the REAL Strongest man of all times. For the strongest Giant of all times --- Angus McAskill of Canada 1860's -- 7' 10" and 500 lbs.... natural giant...not tumor giant. The injury leading to Angus' death ought to convince you he was the strongest man ever recorded. He lifted a 2600 lbs Ship's Anchor off the ground , then was injured as he dropped it. One of the massive flanges struck him , I think, in the head,.... He died of this injury a couple of years later. Angus worked as a police officer. He was often seen carrying 2 criminals under his arms like children and hauling them off to the station. He also was seen actually jogging down the streets of Montreal with 2 filled barrels of beer under his arms. These weighted 300lbs each. And he was just walking around with them like luggage.
So many analist seems to forget that doing 345kg/765lbs for 8 reps so 943lbs/428kg hypothetical Squat 1RM on a wobbly 8 foots bar without any sleeves or wraps is something else than doing the 1RM on a conventional powerlifting bar with a belt and some equipment, spot and real preparation. 585lbs/265lbs x 6 bench without any sleeves, wraps, belt or spot on an easy set of paused reps* So 300kg/660lbs under the very same condition would equal to a far heavier amount of weight for both lifts. Doing completely raw deadlifts isn't a requirement in order to win World's Strongest Man contest and therefore, Eddie didn't need to really set any World Record without these straps, but clearly was the strongest deadlifter of all time of all categories. Eddie Hall also almost beat Big Z's Log Press World Record with an attempt of pushing 507lbs/230kg with a strict form while coming back from a very recent injury of tearing many ligaments in one of his legs, making it impossible to lock out the weights despite the fact that he lifted it twice. He also easily destroyed the Axle Press World Record at 216kg/476lbs with a completely strict form without any *allowed* momentum in his last lift. Also the only man on earth to complete The mythical Death by Deadlift Pyramid Set in which he lifted from 60kg/135lbs to 428kg/945lbs to 60kg/135lbs all over again in a single set. First and youngest man to ever Deadlift The ''Impossible'' 500Kg at 28 years old in 2016 by raising the bar of at least 40kg on the previous world record's holder (And not 1kg, 4 years later). Pushed 90kg/200lbs dumbbells in shoulder presses for 6 confortable reps, pushed 100kg/220lbs dumbbells in chest press for easy inclined sets without any equipments. Just in case someone would say Eddie peaked while some others did not, just don't forget he was 28 years old when he reached that level, strongmen usually peak at 32-35 years old, he slowed down when he was on top of his game and he decided to retire, to fully live his life with his family. We never know what level he could've reached if he continued to get stronger. We call him The Beast for good reasons.
Yeah, it's insane how much he could probably have done if he had organised it in that way instead of for winning WSM. You are right, especially about the bad luck he had with the log. And how strong he was at all those lifts throughout his strongman career. Being one of or the best at overhead of different kinds, deadlift, bench, and having a really really good squat too, all at once, really qualifies him for strongest ever statically. That 500 kg deadlift, suit, straps and all, was fantastic. What a hero.
Exactly he didn't train for PL, if he did those numbers would have gotten pretty insane pretty quick......with 5 years of direct training imagine how much he could have achieved!
Eddie, Thor, Brian, and big Z would all be at the very least top 10 all time raw power lifting. Strength is strength and the strongest dudes are in strongman
@@basicmeme1040 Im talking at his peak. At his peak there is no way he couldn't at least squat 900. Strongmen dont even train max squats.Also With some specific training w the over under there is no way hes not breaking AT MINIMUM 900 in DL he was 1000+ puller raw w straps and he had elite grip strength up there with Mike Burke and od haugen. With the numbers you said for the bench that would put them at a conservative 2400 -2450 lb total which is right in that #8-#15 all time range. But like I said that's a conservative estimate on the squat and deadlift he definitely cracks top 10 if he had put his mind to it and his peak in 2016 and 2017.
Eddie casually does it. He didn't do any max squat or bench because WSM competition doesn't have max squat. So he always train very heavy and tries to rep it.
I would say Eddie Hall is the strongest man that ever lived (sorry Kaz, you definitely were the strongest to have ever lived at the time when you said it, and took many years for anyone to meet let alone beat that) When you boil down “who is stronger” it’s the one that can lift more weight. And overall no one can do that better overall than Eddie. His raw power is insane. Has the world record in the axle, did it as a strict press even though he could have used leg drive, and made it look easy. Even Big Z can’t do that. Big Z does have Eddie with the record on the log, but Ed came damn close. Power wasn’t the issue, it was technique and the ankle that kept Ed from breaking the log record. Take the legs out of the equation (such as while doing an incline log press Glenn Ross used to dominate) and no one would touch Eddie. Love him or hate him Ed’s ability to strict press is legendary, and will be talked about for years. Only a few men over the years have had pure pressing power like that. Kaz, Glenn Ross, are some that come to mind, both of which dominated overhead in their day Then you factor in how powerful Ed is in pretty much everything else too. Amazing deadlift (Big Loz rates Eddie as the best deadlifter of all time, as while Thor beat Ed by 1kg, Ed quite handily beat Thor when in competition. Loz rates when Ed won the deadlift in the 2017 WSM final the most impressive deadlift ever. Apologies if I forget the exact number I think it was 472.5kg or something very near that) Even after quite a few events already under Ed came in to the deadlift and lifted that winning weight and dare I say made it look easy. Most that know the sport well have said by that performance Ed showed in that winning pull that he more than likely could have done over 500kg on that day if he was fresh. Ed may not be the absolute best strongman ever (that goes to Big Z) But in terms of overall raw static strength, that’s Eddie Hall
Your spot on with the 472.5kg deadlift. I agree with all that you've said. I think a deadlift battle between a 2017 Eddie and early 2020 Hafthor would have been awesome to see.
The thing with the axel is that it is not a very important event in strongman. There are 20 log competitions for every one max weight axel comp. Big Z in 2010 had a 215kg axel and 210kg log, he never had the chance to try the axel for max again in 6 years until his pec tear, but his logs went up 18 kg in the mean time as well as his axel for reps. Both Eddie and Z numbers on the axel are not representative of their strength, both man could get at least 220+ kg if they had their chances. On top of that, some times it is not even an proper axel, just a olympic barbell or a steel rod with gloves on the sides like on 2018 WSM finals. I think this is unfortunate since the axel is a very impressive event.
@@gabrielpichorim8191 I know what you mean, was just using the log/axle as an example. I think the way they lift it is a good showing of actual strength though. A strict press with no leg drive takes quite a bit more strength than one with leg drive. Ed hardly ever used leg drive. Eddie pressed in very much the same way that Kaz and Glenn Ross did. Little to no technical advantage, instead just using brute strength and power to lift and press. More difficult, but arguably more impressive. And what make that even more impressive yet is that Kaz, Ross, and Hall were very rarely ever matched let alone beaten in an overhead pressing event. Z doesn’t use a lot of leg drive, but he still does use some, and that “pop” on the bottom really does make a huge difference. And Z’s technique is absolutely flawless, which helps him as well. Very very few men possess the insane power to strict press these huge weights, hence why it’s a rare sight. And why when we do see someone strict press like Kaz, Ross, and Hall it puts our jaws to the floor. Now I would say Z is a better log presser than Hall. Z is in my opinion the best ever (to date) at the log. But Eddie is stronger at pressing. From a seated position I don’t think there is anyone that would be able to keep up with Eddie. Maybe Glenn Ross in his prime could have been close. But no one today has that insane raw power Eddie had. Not only in the shoulders, but at pretty much any static event. Eddie may not have been the fastest, or the most athletic compared to some others. And his reliance on his raw power at times came back to bite him. But when it came to strength...real honest to goodness strength and power, Eddie Hall was the epitome of it. When he won WSM, there was no doubt that he really was the strongest man in the world. (Something that cant always be said with some other winners, and that kind of bugs me. When a person is called “worlds strongest man” you would expect him to be exactly that. But with some, even greats like MVM and Mariuz, they weren’t the strongest. Hell they weren’t even the strongest in that competition. So I like it when they go to a more power related final rather than fitness and speed. Idk, just a pet peeve of mine lol)
Really well said! Eddie has a lot of haters, that only focus on one WSM win, and not the best performance at the Arnolds, but choose to ignore the numbers he achieved, and how strong he was! There are quite a few that have better competition records, but hardly any that can match his lifts!
@@dragon81heart 100% agree! I have the same take on some WSM winners, including Mariuz. A fantastic strength athlete, but when it comes to, as you brilliantly put it "real honest to goodness strength and power" he falls quite along way short, especially compared to Eddie.
Yeah, that's why who's "stronger" is so hard to answer. Stronger can mean so many things. That said, my best guess is that Eddie was stronger than Thor when he was working his hardest and at his best. Brian Shaw is another one though, probably the most accomplished strongman of all time. I don't know who's strongest out of the 3.
I think eddies squat would be more that 428, you have based it off of an easy set of 8 where he had more reps in the tank and he was beltless and no knee sleeves. No doubt that he would at least match if not exceed bells 455
Thanks for your comment. Quite possibly but I try to make videos as unbiased as possible especially when I am making claims about lifts that someone hasn't actually done.
Even then, his unbiased claims were still enough to top Daniel Bell’s total. I firmly believe if Eddie, at the height of his strength and size, were to compete and train for the record, he would eclipse 2600 lbs. I understand his deadlift was equipped but he’s a stronger puller than Bene. Bene just happened to be a powerlifter on top of strongman and train for those movements more so than Eddie.
Really wish we could have seen Eddie in something like the 2022 Arnold max squat with a suit and knee wraps on. Would have pushed Caron to 1000 that I can promise
I know this is a childish dream, but imagine some one having raw powerlifting total wr under his name plus the log, deadlift and stone wrs in strongman. This would end these discussions on statically stronger of all time for good.
That would be some feat; I think Don Reinhoudt and Bill Kazmaier have come the closest, having both held the All Time Powerlifting Record and winning WSM at the same time.
@@StrengthUniverse Yeah, kaz was a beast. There is a pretty good video on Don on lifting vault channel, it is unfortunate he is not as known as the other legends these days. Today I think the one closer to do something like this was Hicks (before injurie :/) with 1100 kg total + 220 kg log on odd conditions. Tom is evolving fast and has room to grow, but I don't think he will be interested in powerlifting even if eventually become a static monster giant like Thor or Brian.
@@StrengthUniverse Some of the american's are scary though. Baez, Bobby, Clayborn and Trey, they are made for static strength. I think the future of strongman titles is European but the all the records will belong to America the end of this decade
@@gabrielpichorim8191 Yes, I think it swings in roundabouts every few years. About a decade the US had; Poundstone, Phister, Jenkins, Burke, Ortmayer, and I thought the rest of the Strongman world was doomed but titles have switched hands between the US and Eastern Europe pretty evenly.
Maybe, but when he was training to bench 700lbs he didn't have much luck increasing his strength and kept suffering from injuries and of course dehydration LOL
@@StrengthUniverse i mean he was also around 165-170 kg, in his prime eddie was sitting around 185-195 kg, prime eddie could've put 320 on a good day, though you are right, too many injuries stopped him at a lighter weight
There's a video of Eddie casually bench press 265kg for 6reps on a 8foot long bar. And that 265kg also Julius trains with it. His casual bench press is a world class.
@@StrengthUniverse He's already retired when Eddie do his videos of 'Road to 700lbs bench'. As well as he stop doing that when. Thor calls him out for boxing match and he starts boxing training.
Even the top powerlifters tend to have one or two 'best lists' Eddie excelled in all three. The numbers in this video seem well considered and I too think he would of been capable of setting a WR total in powerlifting.
I honestly think Eddie could've done a 1250kg total in his prime. 450/325/475+ Squat: Eddie has never really done max weight or reps on squat, that 345x8 was easy, without sleves, not peaked, on a special 8ft wobbly bar. Bench: Again, he did not even peak or really did a bench cycle and pressed 265x6 paused, without a liftoff or spotter. Deadlift. This really is the big X factor. I don't think he could pull the 500 in a full meet, regardless of grip. But i do think he could break the 460 WR on strenght without a problem. It really comes down to how much he could train his grip. But knowing Eddie Hall, when het sets his mind to it he will get it done. I think he would start pulling hookgrip and honestly not care if he broke a thumb on the last deadlift.
I disaggree on some points like he squatted that without belt and clearly has more reps in him with wobble bar. His 1 rep max would be more than what you stated. His deadlift will be 460kg with some work on his grip strength like doing one hand deadlifts. His bench would be what i think Eddie stated 330-335kg if he specifically trains for it. But i know you have to decrease those numbers because then some will call you his fanboy but its a fact. His bench was also on wobble bar and that makes it very unstable specially at that high weight.
I say this all the time on TikTok and to everyone I know whenever other cringy people say that other people are stronger , EDDIE HALL IS THE STRONGEST MAN TO WALK THIS PLANET , there’s no beating around the push he done the overhead press 216kg with ease , he done 500kg back in 2017 and no one was even close and no one still is let’s be real , and his squat as he said he goes for reps and I know if Eddie really wanted to break the 1rm record he would , the guy was a real BEAST .
Good vid. If u took Into account overhead strength too altho people say Z has the log record Eddie came so so close with a snapped Ankle and a messed up hip. A more fair test would be the axle press which Eddie strict pressed leading me to believe Eddie also has the strongest overhead strength aswell
Given Eddie's insane grip strength I wouldn't be surprised if he could pull 445kg without straps but otherwise I agree with this analysis, Eddie Hall in all likelihood could have been the best overall power lifter on the planet, and even with your somewhat lower estimate for a strapless dead lift this is still the case, really crazy when you think about it.
Great video. My top 3 strongest men statically (peak) : 1.Eddie 2. Zydrunas 3.Thor top 3 strongest overall (peak): 1. Thor 2. Zydrunas 3.Brian top 3 greatest strongman 1. Zydrunas 2. Brian 3. maybe Thor
Eddie vs Big Z in all static events featured in strongman competitions : Big Z better at : 1. Squat ( strongman world record at 329 KG x 15) 2. Max log lift ( strongman world record 228 KG) 3. Log lift for reps ( strongman world record at 205 KG x 4 ) 4. Axle for reps (strongman world record 166 KG x 8 ) 5. Dumbell press overhead 124 KG x 4 ( Eddie only managed 1 rep) 6. Hummer tire deadlift 524 KG Eddie is better at : 1 .Deadlift ( 500 KG ) 2. Max axle ( world record 216 KG) 3. Deficit deadlift ( 445 KG ) Replace Z and Eddie in strongest man statically and you have nice list.
@@djordjedangubic7270 Eddie has at least 30 kg better deadlift than Zydrunas. When Zydrunas did 329kg X 15 reps squat (wsm 2014) Eddie did 14 (second place) when he was not in the peak strength and bodyweight only 165 kg ( his max bodyweight 195 kg ) . Gym lifts also show static strength, bench Eddie 265kgX6 reps, Zydrunas about 250X3. Eddie did incline dumbell press 100 kg each hand 7 reps .Log in the gym 216kg, sitting log strict 226 kg. 420 kg X 4 in the gym raw deadlift, Zydrunas only 1. Squat 345 X8 ease without wraps, Zydrunas train in wraps. Hummer tire deadlift - Zydrunas 524 kg after years of participation in ASC, but Eddie 504 kg first time ASC. Eddie 362 kg X 10 reps deadlift (ESM 2017). Axle 216 strict press, more in the tank. Eddie only was 2 times in ASC and we not see his full power.
@@roman11235813 Bunch of excuses about prime and other gym lifts that are not even verified or strongman exercises at all ( bench , incline dumbell) . Everything I listed is official done in proper competitons.
@@roman11235813 When Eddie was at peak strength in 2017 he squatted 320kg x15, which works out to 480 kg for a max. In 2014, his 329kg x 14 works out to 482.5 kg for a max. So Eddies' peak squat hovered around 480 kg. Z did 15 at 329 kg which works out to 493.5 kg max. Can't compare bench as it's not a static test in Strongman. Z did 442 kg in the deficit deadlift at WSM 2011 vs Eddie 445 kg at WSM 2O16. Z did 524 kg in hummer tires at ASC 2014 vs Eddie 505 kg at ASC 2015. Z usually got an average carryover of 63 kg to hummer tires from the deficit Deadlift setup at WSM. 2011 Z - 442 kg on deficit globes Z - 505 kg on hummer tires 2012 Z - 360 kg x 8 on deficit deadlift (predicted max 447 kg) Z - 507 kg on hummer tires 2015 Z - 370 kg x 5 on deficit globes (predicted max 416 kg) Z - 482 kg on hummer tires Therefore in 2014, his max DL on the deficit set-up would likely hover around 458-464 kg - an average of 460 kg. Given lifters seem to get 15-20 kg from the deficit set up to a standard deadlift bar. Shaw (445 kg WSM'16 - 463 kg ASC'16) Hall (445 kg WSM'16 - 465 kg ASC'16) Thor (420 kg WSM'16 - 443 kg ASC'16). Therefore Z in Arnold Strongman Classic 2014 shape would likely have been capable of 475 - 480 kg raw on an elephant bar. In 2010, Zydrunas strict pressed 208 kg x 2 on Apollon's Axle with spades in the tank at the ASC - arguably in his top 5 greatest feats.
@Hidde de Roos Deadlift world record with straps and suit - 500 kilograms (1,102 lb] (Current In Competition Record) Axle press - 216 kilograms (476 lb) (world record) Rogue Elephant Bar Deadlift with straps - 465 kilograms (1,025 lb) Deadlift with straps - 463 kilograms (1,021 lb) Log lift - 213 kilograms (470 lb) Crossfit Grace - 60 kilograms (132 lb) for 30 repetitions in 50 seconds (World Record) Gym lifts: Squat - 405 kilograms (893 lb) Bench press - 300 kilograms (661 lb) (equipped) Leg press - 1,000 kilograms (2,205 lb) for 10 reps Silver dollar deadlift - 536 kilograms (1,182 lb) These are eddies records , thor never did a bench more than 250 kg , you say he could , well maybe but we are talking about actual done lifts not potential stuff , cheers .
I honestly think Eddie could break all 3 records in squat, bench and deadlift! I think Eddie could have gotten at least 2650lbs in sleeves and that's a conservative estimate!
I doubt Eddie could get over 740lbs on bench even training for a year or two specifically for it but 720 to 730 is definitely believable. As for the other lifts absolutely 100% he could have!
One thing to bare in mind. Eddie's 585 x 5 was always done at the end of his workouts when he was already fatigued and he always went from 1 plate a side up to the 6 plate a side. A 300kg bench, even after 3 heavy squats would not be out of his reach
The strongest man who ever lived, Statically was Paul Anderson of Georgia, USA. Deadlift with straps -- 1000 lbs Bench Press RAW -- 650 lbs Squat RAW ---- 900 lbs was PROVEN, BUT 1200 lbs was estimated on some of his stunts. He actually did a 1100 lbs squat with silver ________________dollars in boxes attached to a very unstable bar. Overhead Press from a Rack -- 600 lbs One arm Dumbbell strict press overhead -- 385 lbs One Arm Dumbbell for reps --- ON TV -- 301 lbs X 2 REPS Clean and Jerk -- 455 lbs.... First man over 400 in world history -- 1955 Snatch ---- 375 lbs ------------- Olympic Record 1956 Back lift --- Most weight ever lifted off the surface of the earth by human --- 6270 lbs -- year 1961 Hip Lift -- 4000 lbs Steel Safe in his back yard -- pictures and witnesses confirmed. Lifting up the front end of a 56 Chevrolet family Sedan with engine block and all working parts -- 1962....pictures confirmed Statistic for Paul Height -- 5'10" Weight -- 330 to 350 lbs Biceps -- 24" Thighs -- 36" Calves -- " 22" Neck "20"; chest -- 60"+
I’m going to open with, Eddie Hall would smoke a 1000 pound squat, 650 bench, and 1000 pound dead. He would need to train for two months for a little loading and technique and then absolutely wreck it. I think a 1200kg total would be very fair if not a little conservative. Calculations in this video of his bench and squat don’t factor in the 8’ wobble bar, not maxing the rep counts, and no belt. Your numbers are wildly low, but I get it because you’re being conservative based on things you could quantify. Maybe there is a comparison on wobble versus standard bar weights and you could take his RPE into account to guess his true rep range to get a more scientific “guess”.
First off, great video always love the content. This is where the comparisons always become hard. In powerlifting you can sumo deadlift and bench with the widest arch giving you half the range of motion but you can’t wear straps. So it sucks that Daniel/ other powerlifters can’t wear straps so we can’t get a straight up comparison
It would be amazing to see what Eddie could do if he really put his mind to powerlifting, getting used to how strict the rules are, how many lifts are much heavier due to pauses, no momentum and so on. What's shown in the video is when Hall has specialized within that muscle group. Being extremely strong in all events at the same time is very difficult, and I honestly think he maxed out his frame for the 500 kg WR deadlift - which may be reflected in how he got serious head trauma from it, whereas for Hafthor it was like any other heavy lift. These things are all just speculation. And if you start speculating, you must also ask yourself how the likes of Big Z or Hafthor would do if they put their minds and training just into powerlifting. Hafthor for many years had a completely different strategy in strongman than Eddie did. He focused much more on mobility and longevity. What if he switched up his training program and the goal was just to be at his peak for 1-2 years, then back off? Which is pretty much what he did for the deadlift. A few months of serious prep, and easily blew it out of the park. It looked easy, especially in comparison to Eddie's lift. He probably had another 10-20 kg in him, atleast. If you gave that man 2-3 years to just do powerlifting, he would in my speculative opinion most likely beat Eddie. He's so tall and wide and his body is better suited to carry more muscles. I think many of the same arguments go for Big Z, or a few other strongmen. So at the end of the day, there's no question that Eddie is a static monster, but it's VERY speculative. There's a million variables that come into play, and like I said, many of Eddie's records shown in the video are many years apart. If you apply the same logic to powerlifters, i.e taking their PR's over a 10 year period for each lift, their overalls are much higher.
i think brian shaw comes at least presently pretty close to that "all time" seeing that he's pretty strict on not using suits, extra accessories himself he chalks up and pulls or lifts i personally cant think of , or have seen brian ever use a suit, and he pulled over 1,000 (453kg) this year at the Shaw classic which is recent, his grip as well is insane!
Eddie is once in a lifetime creation of God. If he didn't live, his static strength would have been only a mythical imagination or more suitable for anime. It's beyond explanations how he was casually just that strong.. and he retired around 30, waaay before reaching peak
Eddie's strong but the wraps squat suit and other gear and OTHER GEAR! it makes to much of a difference. If Mark Henry had done full time powerlifting instead weightlifting and then pro wrestling. He would've been a SuperHeavyweight version Ed Coan. He lifted the “Thomas Inch" dumbbell” What's scary about Mark potential power is that he went of out his way to prove he was drug free. Imagine if Mark used with full time training……….dam!
Seems to me, if someone wanted to see the powerlifting record obliterated, eddie is the man to do it. Soon, before eddie gets any older, iffer him 20 million dollars to beat the powerlifting record by 100 kg's. I believe he could do it.
I think that Raw dealift is very generous. The difference is usually considered 20-30% with straps alone. throw in a deadlift suit and what not and I think its a big stretch
Eddie did lift 463 without a suit(yes with a strap but strap doesn't effect as much as the suit and it was in 2015 sooo imo eddie could easily lift 445-460)
Can you please update this video Dan Bell is the true world's strongest man in history his grand total now is 2606 thank you for your videos they're awesome I like subscribe and share them please more can you do a video on Scott Steiner aka Big Papa Pump
I have been trying to make a video on him but there is very limited genuine info on him and the training video he released was all fake weights. I hope to find more info in the future
I like watching Eddie Hall try to beat Leah Shutkever in competitive eating. He's literally 3 times her size and she absolutely smokes him. He's a great guy in their videos on her channel.
Hi Felix, thanks for your comment. It was 317kg / 700lbs but that lift is not comparable to Larry's because it was an equipped lift, e.g Eddie had a Squat suit and Knee Wraps.
I genuinely think Eddy easily wins the Squat. Eddy’s squat is usually no belt no wraps and a wobbly bar. What did Thor questionably fail at in the Squat 460kg. Eddy is at least as strong as a prime Thor.
BP would be over 300kg in my opinion. The reps in the video are easy and do not look specifically prepared to do max reps/max weight. He also uses the wobbly bar. I think he could do at least 5% more weight with a more serious setting and with a regular (non wobbly) bar.
No. He's incredibly strong, but not a league above the rest. Thor has pulled a heavier deadlift and soon the likes of Pavlo will pull even more. Biby has done a heavier axle. Z was always a stronger squatter. Eddie was unbelievably strong, but not in a league of his own.
He beat the deadlift wr by 37kg, not only beating it but absolutely smashing it, thor is strong as fuck but if he was to do the same as eddie did he would of lifted 537kg
@@thisguyagain24 he beat the previous record by 35kg. When Eddie pulled 500, he shared the record prior to that with Jerry and Benni at 465kg. I'm not denying for a second that Eddie was unbelievably strong, I'm just saying that despite how impressive his 500kg was, he's not a league above everyone else. Soon others will lift 505. Eddie will always be remembered as the man who made 500 possible, but that doesn't mean he's the only one capable.
@@benedictyeong746 yep, but the likes of Biby has stronger shoulders. Eddie was never able to lift more on the log than Z, although he did lift 1kg more on the axle. I'd never deny that Eddie is one of the strongest men to ever live, but he is not the absolute strongest, as he likes to believe that he is.
For me in terms of pure strenght, Eddie is strongest by far. Also his strenght was complete as he pretty much didnt have any weak sides. Back, legs, shoulders, chest.
How are PEDa monitored in powerlifting and strongman? This would have some sway on my opinion. If all is equal I would definitely go with Eddie as statically the strongest man to have lived though he didn’t maintain that for a long period
Hi Dante, The deadlift was done with figure 8 straps which are not permitted in powerlifting and the bench press would also never pass in a real competition because he didn't pause at the bottom and lifted his foot off the floor.
Eddie is wrong with the aspect of famous- many won WSM like many won Mr. Olympia... but Arnold as the one who bring a unlikly sport as BB was in these day...to what it is today - my point is- if a man like Eddie went to Poerlifting, breaks records,... he can be the one who lightet up the sport & it could be a great story to tell.... thats famous (sorry 4 my english gramma)
Hi, did you watch the video? I would say Thor has a slightly better squat than Eddie, pretty equal (marginally in Thors favour) in the deadlift and Eddie is considerly better at Bench press.
@@StrengthUniverse I was being sarcastic. Sorry if this was not clear. Thor didn't do it during competition, so it is a legitimate lift, but I don't think its as impressive.
@@StrengthUniverse I dont think eddie would be that much better than thor on the bench. Did you see how quick 550 moved when thor didnt even train for powerlifting. If he trained for it and came in at like 210 kgs I definitely think he could get atleast 600
thor couldn't grip a 430 kg deadlift and his grip strength was way better than Eddie's. He literally won a grip event in WSM that year and only managed to grip 410 on a bar. It would be more realistic to assume Eddie's raw deadlift to be around 380
For Eddie’s bench press, did the system you use take into account the pauses he took in between his reps? Also, I wonder how many touch and go reps of 585 he could’ve done in his prime.
@@StrengthUniverse more like 40 kgs I'd say, but in his last meet even though he got red lighted on 460 it moved very easily. I no joke believe a fully prepped 210 kg thor could get like 490 kgs very realistically
@@shlok-vp4xr Yes I'd agree. He did very well for only 6 weeks of training. I thought it was going to be an annual competition but not seen anything about it since.
@@StrengthUniverse Hafthor did a lot more than Eddie for it. But i think Eddie would have been way better at it than Thor. He is simply to tall, he would have to weight 240 kg
The problem with Eddie is that he peaked for a year in weight and the sheer amount of anabolics he needed to (not lockout) his deadlift. he could not sustain that so he retired or he would have just been medicore using less anabolics. Whereas guys like Thor peaked with anabolics for 501, but still had room to grow - Thor could have been 20-30-50lbs larger where Eddie was absolutely overmax sized for his short frame.
@@joebot9309 yep he was juiced to the max and Thor does have a larger frame to carry the additional mass should he want. Still got to admire what Eddie achieved , just a shame there wasn't more longevity
I don't understand why did you say strongest man to ever live if you're going to take powerlifting conventions? Would that not mean strongest powerlifter that ever lived should be the title??? Also the whole may not use straps in powerlifting to me isn't an indication of one's strength. Your back still does ALL the work at lifting a weight whether your hands can hold it or not. The entire point of deadlift is to see how much one's back can lift, if a person without hands had a 430 lift with some special way of tying it to him would he not be allowed to have it displayed as his feat of strength?
@@StrengthUniverse so my question is then if you want to test a hypothesis which is based off a question an answer whatever you want it to be; do you put the subject in the realm of the system in question (strongest statically = strongman) you test or do you take him to a completely different test zone (powerlifting) and expect the results to be conclusive? (Conventions of powerlifting and strongman being so different that neither would function in the others' sport if you test them based SOLELY on their performance in their respective fields). If I wanted to test is Muhammed a great boxer? And I phrase it as a question does that mean looking at his MMA career is a great way to test it?
Zydrunas is stronger in the squat than eddie was at his peak. These two comparisons are much better. Peak Eddie: th-cam.com/video/DOQfU9Ws_PE/w-d-xo.html Zydrunas doing more weight easier. th-cam.com/video/JOsEauCk9uc/w-d-xo.html If you put Z's numbers into a 1rm calculator you get 501kg. This shocked me too. I thought eddie was stronger.
Well eddie never competed so we will never now, but thor who is prob the biggest and one of the strongest wsm of all time did and he couldnt beat the raw record in wraps, btw thors biggest raw deadlift is 410 and hes nr1 deadlifter in strongman. People tend to underestimate powerlifting as a sport, especially when comparing it to strongman
That's not RAW, that's with Wraps which is not comparable as they can easily add 25kg+ to the athletes squat. Daniel Bell is the record holder in Raw powerlifting
Kaz easily weighed like what 100 pounds less benched more deadlift etc they banned him for 4 years now imagine hed have like 6 titles bench probably 700 raw weight less squat more and probably lose in deadlift but win more events bigger total and more titled he got screwed
@@StrengthUniverse Talakhadze is not as well known as British or American powerlifting athletes. But to lift that amount overhead is amazing. I know he’s a huge guy, 6’6” and 400lbs but he’s still human(barely)😂
Well good video, full of work. but even though Eddie won here, this video is no way "the Strongest Man whoever lived STATİCALLY" , this video can only show "the best powerlifter whoever lived". The 1RM has nothing to do with the "Strongest man". The strongman competition is there If someone wants to prove they are stronger. They can test themselves in eddies best year results. Larry Wheels was a tremendous powerlifter and probably he beats that french bodybuilder Morgan Aste in all pl lifts. But the guy is shredded at 170 freaking kilos at his best shape!! he was not even in his best shape when he visited larry, he was 145 150 kgs and he was PAUSE REPPING Larry's 5 or 6 rep maxes(failure) like 20 25 times WITH HEAVIER WEIGHTS , WITHOUT FAILURE IN EACH AND EVERY EXERCISE. And thats not even a strongman, just a huge bodybuilder. Whenever that happened, Larry directly gave the title of being the strongest bodybuilder to him. So the strongman athletes are really the freaks of raw strength.
hes not and the fact that he thinks there is no money in it just goes to show he has no clue what hes talking about ,,,,,, Larry wheels ,,,,,,julius maddox ,,,,,stefi cohen,,,,,,,dan green,,,,, are they broke?
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@@abdullahstrongman How can you be 100 percent sure that Mark Henry has never taken steroids? How can you say that about someone you've probably never met yourself? Were you perhaps Mark's best friend? LOL and you saw everything that goes on behind closed doors. Good advice for you is. Never put your hand in the fire for someone else, you never know for sure what secrets someone is carrying.
@@abdullahstrongman There is not even testing for PEDS in the strongman competitions. They can take what they want literally and figuratively. Every strongman takes PEDS/steriods just like every professional bodybuilder does. I'm sorry if I burst your bubble but steroids are part of the strongman competition. it's just too much of an advantage… recovery, explosive power, etc…
@@abdullahstrongman no reason??? LMFAO
You seem to be ignorant of Paul Anderson..... Look him up if you want to know the REAL Strongest man of all times.
For the strongest Giant of all times --- Angus McAskill of Canada 1860's -- 7' 10" and 500 lbs.... natural giant...not tumor giant.
The injury leading to Angus' death ought to convince you he was the strongest man ever recorded. He lifted a 2600 lbs Ship's Anchor off the ground , then was injured as he dropped it. One of the massive flanges struck him , I think, in the head,.... He died of this injury a couple of years later.
Angus worked as a police officer. He was often seen carrying 2 criminals under his arms like children and hauling them off to the station.
He also was seen actually jogging down the streets of Montreal with 2 filled barrels of beer under his arms. These weighted 300lbs each. And he was just walking around with them like luggage.
So many analist seems to forget that doing 345kg/765lbs for 8 reps so 943lbs/428kg hypothetical Squat 1RM on a wobbly 8 foots bar without any sleeves or wraps is something else than doing the 1RM on a conventional powerlifting bar with a belt and some equipment, spot and real preparation.
585lbs/265lbs x 6 bench without any sleeves, wraps, belt or spot on an easy set of paused reps* So 300kg/660lbs under the very same condition would equal to a far heavier amount of weight for both lifts. Doing completely raw deadlifts isn't a requirement in order to win World's Strongest Man contest and therefore, Eddie didn't need to really set any World Record without these straps, but clearly was the strongest deadlifter of all time of all categories. Eddie Hall also almost beat Big Z's Log Press World Record with an attempt of pushing 507lbs/230kg with a strict form while coming back from a very recent injury of tearing many ligaments in one of his legs, making it impossible to lock out the weights despite the fact that he lifted it twice. He also easily destroyed the Axle Press World Record at 216kg/476lbs with a completely strict form without any *allowed* momentum in his last lift. Also the only man on earth to complete The mythical Death by Deadlift Pyramid Set in which he lifted from 60kg/135lbs to 428kg/945lbs to 60kg/135lbs all over again in a single set. First and youngest man to ever Deadlift The ''Impossible'' 500Kg at 28 years old in 2016 by raising the bar of at least 40kg on the previous world record's holder (And not 1kg, 4 years later). Pushed 90kg/200lbs dumbbells in shoulder presses for 6 confortable reps, pushed 100kg/220lbs dumbbells in chest press for easy inclined sets without any equipments. Just in case someone would say Eddie peaked while some others did not, just don't forget he was 28 years old when he reached that level, strongmen usually peak at 32-35 years old, he slowed down when he was on top of his game and he decided to retire, to fully live his life with his family. We never know what level he could've reached if he continued to get stronger. We call him The Beast for good reasons.
Yeah, it's insane how much he could probably have done if he had organised it in that way instead of for winning WSM. You are right, especially about the bad luck he had with the log. And how strong he was at all those lifts throughout his strongman career. Being one of or the best at overhead of different kinds, deadlift, bench, and having a really really good squat too, all at once, really qualifies him for strongest ever statically. That 500 kg deadlift, suit, straps and all, was fantastic. What a hero.
Exactly he didn't train for PL, if he did those numbers would have gotten pretty insane pretty quick......with 5 years of direct training imagine how much he could have achieved!
Well said!
This.
This is a comment worth reading, thank you.
Eddie, Thor, Brian, and big Z would all be at the very least top 10 all time raw power lifting. Strength is strength and the strongest dudes are in strongman
Shaw no
Shaws best squat was like what 800 raw. His beat raw dl was apparently 880. His best bench would probably be 600-650
@@basicmeme1040 Im talking at his peak. At his peak there is no way he couldn't at least squat 900. Strongmen dont even train max squats.Also With some specific training w the over under there is no way hes not breaking AT MINIMUM 900 in DL he was 1000+ puller raw w straps and he had elite grip strength up there with Mike Burke and od haugen. With the numbers you said for the bench that would put them at a conservative 2400 -2450 lb total which is right in that #8-#15 all time range. But like I said that's a conservative estimate on the squat and deadlift he definitely cracks top 10 if he had put his mind to it and his peak in 2016 and 2017.
Thor is #14 of all time and it was his first meet
I doubt any of the guys above him can throw 8 kegs in 16 something seconds either
The 430 kg squat is extremely conservative
Hi Seb, It's difficult to say.....Grip is the limiting factor.
Yeah, that's raw, no singlet or knee sleeves. I'd say upwards of 450, especially if he trained it
@@krossxeye660 Hearsay. Thor easily lifted 501kg equipped but failed 420 raw because of grip.
Why are you guys talking about grip? He said squat.
That 1rm calculator doesn’t do him justice he had no belt or anything and the 8 reps were easily knocked out he had more in the tank
Hi Luke, I agree. I've spoke about this in detail in the following video: th-cam.com/video/OYmpkqwSIAY/w-d-xo.html
Eddie casually does it. He didn't do any max squat or bench because WSM competition doesn't have max squat. So he always train very heavy and tries to rep it.
I would say Eddie Hall is the strongest man that ever lived (sorry Kaz, you definitely were the strongest to have ever lived at the time when you said it, and took many years for anyone to meet let alone beat that)
When you boil down “who is stronger” it’s the one that can lift more weight. And overall no one can do that better overall than Eddie. His raw power is insane. Has the world record in the axle, did it as a strict press even though he could have used leg drive, and made it look easy.
Even Big Z can’t do that. Big Z does have Eddie with the record on the log, but Ed came damn close. Power wasn’t the issue, it was technique and the ankle that kept Ed from breaking the log record. Take the legs out of the equation (such as while doing an incline log press Glenn Ross used to dominate) and no one would touch Eddie.
Love him or hate him Ed’s ability to strict press is legendary, and will be talked about for years. Only a few men over the years have had pure pressing power like that. Kaz, Glenn Ross, are some that come to mind, both of which dominated overhead in their day
Then you factor in how powerful Ed is in pretty much everything else too. Amazing deadlift (Big Loz rates Eddie as the best deadlifter of all time, as while Thor beat Ed by 1kg, Ed quite handily beat Thor when in competition. Loz rates when Ed won the deadlift in the 2017 WSM final the most impressive deadlift ever. Apologies if I forget the exact number I think it was 472.5kg or something very near that)
Even after quite a few events already under Ed came in to the deadlift and lifted that winning weight and dare I say made it look easy. Most that know the sport well have said by that performance Ed showed in that winning pull that he more than likely could have done over 500kg on that day if he was fresh.
Ed may not be the absolute best strongman ever (that goes to Big Z)
But in terms of overall raw static strength, that’s Eddie Hall
Your spot on with the 472.5kg deadlift. I agree with all that you've said. I think a deadlift battle between a 2017 Eddie and early 2020 Hafthor would have been awesome to see.
The thing with the axel is that it is not a very important event in strongman. There are 20 log competitions for every one max weight axel comp. Big Z in 2010 had a 215kg axel and 210kg log, he never had the chance to try the axel for max again in 6 years until his pec tear, but his logs went up 18 kg in the mean time as well as his axel for reps. Both Eddie and Z numbers on the axel are not representative of their strength, both man could get at least 220+ kg if they had their chances. On top of that, some times it is not even an proper axel, just a olympic barbell or a steel rod with gloves on the sides like on 2018 WSM finals. I think this is unfortunate since the axel is a very impressive event.
@@gabrielpichorim8191 I know what you mean, was just using the log/axle as an example.
I think the way they lift it is a good showing of actual strength though.
A strict press with no leg drive takes quite a bit more strength than one with leg drive. Ed hardly ever used leg drive.
Eddie pressed in very much the same way that Kaz and Glenn Ross did. Little to no technical advantage, instead just using brute strength and power to lift and press. More difficult, but arguably more impressive. And what make that even more impressive yet is that Kaz, Ross, and Hall were very rarely ever matched let alone beaten in an overhead pressing event.
Z doesn’t use a lot of leg drive, but he still does use some, and that “pop” on the bottom really does make a huge difference. And Z’s technique is absolutely flawless, which helps him as well. Very very few men possess the insane power to strict press these huge weights, hence why it’s a rare sight. And why when we do see someone strict press like Kaz, Ross, and Hall it puts our jaws to the floor.
Now I would say Z is a better log presser than Hall. Z is in my opinion the best ever (to date) at the log.
But Eddie is stronger at pressing.
From a seated position I don’t think there is anyone that would be able to keep up with Eddie. Maybe Glenn Ross in his prime could have been close.
But no one today has that insane raw power Eddie had.
Not only in the shoulders, but at pretty much any static event.
Eddie may not have been the fastest, or the most athletic compared to some others. And his reliance on his raw power at times came back to bite him.
But when it came to strength...real honest to goodness strength and power, Eddie Hall was the epitome of it.
When he won WSM, there was no doubt that he really was the strongest man in the world.
(Something that cant always be said with some other winners, and that kind of bugs me. When a person is called “worlds strongest man” you would expect him to be exactly that. But with some, even greats like MVM and Mariuz, they weren’t the strongest. Hell they weren’t even the strongest in that competition. So I like it when they go to a more power related final rather than fitness and speed. Idk, just a pet peeve of mine lol)
Really well said! Eddie has a lot of haters, that only focus on one WSM win, and not the best performance at the Arnolds, but choose to ignore the numbers he achieved, and how strong he was! There are quite a few that have better competition records, but hardly any that can match his lifts!
@@dragon81heart 100% agree! I have the same take on some WSM winners, including Mariuz. A fantastic strength athlete, but when it comes to, as you brilliantly put it "real honest to goodness strength and power" he falls quite along way short, especially compared to Eddie.
Short answer, yes, at his prime, although his prime was very short he was the strongest static lifter ever
Yeah, that's why who's "stronger" is so hard to answer. Stronger can mean so many things. That said, my best guess is that Eddie was stronger than Thor when he was working his hardest and at his best. Brian Shaw is another one though, probably the most accomplished strongman of all time. I don't know who's strongest out of the 3.
@@billj4525 i think if we compare the prime then eddie hall and if we compare potential then thor
I think eddies squat would be more that 428, you have based it off of an easy set of 8 where he had more reps in the tank and he was beltless and no knee sleeves. No doubt that he would at least match if not exceed bells 455
Thanks for your comment. Quite possibly but I try to make videos as unbiased as possible especially when I am making claims about lifts that someone hasn't actually done.
Even then, his unbiased claims were still enough to top Daniel Bell’s total. I firmly believe if Eddie, at the height of his strength and size, were to compete and train for the record, he would eclipse 2600 lbs. I understand his deadlift was equipped but he’s a stronger puller than Bene. Bene just happened to be a powerlifter on top of strongman and train for those movements more so than Eddie.
@@sbdftw1702 Yeah his estimates were conservative and Ed still came out on top, so there is no question.
Really wish we could have seen Eddie in something like the 2022 Arnold max squat with a suit and knee wraps on. Would have pushed Caron to 1000 that I can promise
@@zanechristenson3436 JF said he was good for 1050 and I believe him. It would've been some showdown, between he and Eddie.
I know this is a childish dream, but imagine some one having raw powerlifting total wr under his name plus the log, deadlift and stone wrs in strongman. This would end these discussions on statically stronger of all time for good.
That would be some feat; I think Don Reinhoudt and Bill Kazmaier have come the closest, having both held the All Time Powerlifting Record and winning WSM at the same time.
@@StrengthUniverse Yeah, kaz was a beast. There is a pretty good video on Don on lifting vault channel, it is unfortunate he is not as known as the other legends these days.
Today I think the one closer to do something like this was Hicks (before injurie :/) with 1100 kg total + 220 kg log on odd conditions. Tom is evolving fast and has room to grow, but I don't think he will be interested in powerlifting even if eventually become a static monster giant like Thor or Brian.
@@StrengthUniverse Some of the american's are scary though. Baez, Bobby, Clayborn and Trey, they are made for static strength. I think the future of strongman titles is European but the all the records will belong to America the end of this decade
@@gabrielpichorim8191 Yes, I think it swings in roundabouts every few years. About a decade the US had; Poundstone, Phister, Jenkins, Burke, Ortmayer, and I thought the rest of the Strongman world was doomed but titles have switched hands between the US and Eastern Europe pretty evenly.
I wish that someone could be me lol
I always appreciate how you share the calculus you use for trying to determine things such as this. Eddie may well be the strongest statically, ever.
Thank you, your's is one of a very few positive comments in regard to my use of calculations
@@StrengthUniverseYour approach is solid; it provides both *what* & *why* for your takes. It's transparent & accountable. Be encouraged.
Seems about right. I'd say he would do more on bench around 315 or so
Maybe, but when he was training to bench 700lbs he didn't have much luck increasing his strength and kept suffering from injuries and of course dehydration LOL
@@StrengthUniverse i mean he was also around 165-170 kg, in his prime eddie was sitting around 185-195 kg, prime eddie could've put 320 on a good day, though you are right, too many injuries stopped him at a lighter weight
There's a video of Eddie casually bench press 265kg for 6reps on a 8foot long bar. And that 265kg also Julius trains with it. His casual bench press is a world class.
@@StrengthUniverse He's already retired when Eddie do his videos of 'Road to 700lbs bench'. As well as he stop doing that when. Thor calls him out for boxing match and he starts boxing training.
@@StrengthUniverse we are talking about hydrated peak Eddie not retired dehydrated eddie
Even the top powerlifters tend to have one or two 'best lists' Eddie excelled in all three. The numbers in this video seem well considered and I too think he would of been capable of setting a WR total in powerlifting.
Thank you, I think it may have been possible if he had been interested in pursuing the sport
Eddie was also squatting without a belt
Yes good point.
& with an 8 foot bar
Eddie could probably squat 460 kg. Thor squatted 460kg and Eddie beat Thor in most squat events. Given, Eddie is better at endurance so maybe not.
I honestly think Eddie could've done a 1250kg total in his prime. 450/325/475+
Squat: Eddie has never really done max weight or reps on squat, that 345x8 was easy, without sleves, not peaked, on a special 8ft wobbly bar.
Bench: Again, he did not even peak or really did a bench cycle and pressed 265x6 paused, without a liftoff or spotter.
Deadlift. This really is the big X factor. I don't think he could pull the 500 in a full meet, regardless of grip. But i do think he could break the 460 WR on strenght without a problem. It really comes down to how much he could train his grip. But knowing Eddie Hall, when het sets his mind to it he will get it done. I think he would start pulling hookgrip and honestly not care if he broke a thumb on the last deadlift.
I disaggree on some points like he squatted that without belt and clearly has more reps in him with wobble bar. His 1 rep max would be more than what you stated. His deadlift will be 460kg with some work on his grip strength like doing one hand deadlifts. His bench would be what i think Eddie stated 330-335kg if he specifically trains for it. But i know you have to decrease those numbers because then some will call you his fanboy but its a fact. His bench was also on wobble bar and that makes it very unstable specially at that high weight.
The way Benny lets that 460kg down cracks me up every time.
I say this all the time on TikTok and to everyone I know whenever other cringy people say that other people are stronger , EDDIE HALL IS THE STRONGEST MAN TO WALK THIS PLANET , there’s no beating around the push he done the overhead press 216kg with ease , he done 500kg back in 2017 and no one was even close and no one still is let’s be real , and his squat as he said he goes for reps and I know if Eddie really wanted to break the 1rm record he would , the guy was a real BEAST .
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Good vid. If u took Into account overhead strength too altho people say Z has the log record Eddie came so so close with a snapped Ankle and a messed up hip. A more fair test would be the axle press which Eddie strict pressed leading me to believe Eddie also has the strongest overhead strength aswell
Yep, I think he could of done the 230kg log if he hadn't followed Iron Biby and done 220 first
Given Eddie's insane grip strength I wouldn't be surprised if he could pull 445kg without straps but otherwise I agree with this analysis, Eddie Hall in all likelihood could have been the best overall power lifter on the planet, and even with your somewhat lower estimate for a strapless dead lift this is still the case, really crazy when you think about it.
Great video. My top 3 strongest men statically (peak) : 1.Eddie 2. Zydrunas 3.Thor
top 3 strongest overall (peak): 1. Thor 2. Zydrunas 3.Brian
top 3 greatest strongman 1. Zydrunas 2. Brian 3. maybe Thor
Eddie vs Big Z in all static events featured in strongman competitions :
Big Z better at :
1. Squat ( strongman world record at 329 KG x 15)
2. Max log lift ( strongman world record 228 KG)
3. Log lift for reps ( strongman world record at 205 KG x 4 )
4. Axle for reps (strongman world record 166 KG x 8 )
5. Dumbell press overhead 124 KG x 4 ( Eddie only managed 1 rep)
6. Hummer tire deadlift 524 KG
Eddie is better at :
1 .Deadlift ( 500 KG )
2. Max axle ( world record 216 KG)
3. Deficit deadlift ( 445 KG )
Replace Z and Eddie in strongest man statically and you have nice list.
@@djordjedangubic7270 Eddie has at least 30 kg better deadlift than Zydrunas. When Zydrunas did 329kg X 15 reps squat (wsm 2014) Eddie did 14 (second place) when he was not in the peak strength and bodyweight only 165 kg ( his max bodyweight 195 kg ) . Gym lifts also show static strength, bench Eddie 265kgX6 reps, Zydrunas about 250X3. Eddie did incline dumbell press 100 kg each hand 7 reps .Log in the gym 216kg, sitting log strict 226 kg. 420 kg X 4 in the gym raw deadlift, Zydrunas only 1. Squat 345 X8 ease without wraps, Zydrunas train in wraps. Hummer tire deadlift - Zydrunas 524 kg after years of participation in ASC, but Eddie 504 kg first time ASC. Eddie 362 kg X 10 reps deadlift (ESM 2017). Axle 216 strict press, more in the tank. Eddie only was 2 times in ASC and we not see his full power.
@@roman11235813 Bunch of excuses about prime and other gym lifts that are not even verified or strongman exercises at all ( bench , incline dumbell) . Everything I listed is official done in proper competitons.
@@djordjedangubic7270 classic eddie hall fans king of the excuses
@@roman11235813 When Eddie was at peak strength in 2017 he squatted 320kg x15, which works out to 480 kg for a max. In 2014, his 329kg x 14 works out to 482.5 kg for a max. So Eddies' peak squat hovered around 480 kg. Z did 15 at 329 kg which works out to 493.5 kg max.
Can't compare bench as it's not a static test in Strongman.
Z did 442 kg in the deficit deadlift at WSM 2011 vs Eddie 445 kg at WSM 2O16.
Z did 524 kg in hummer tires at ASC 2014 vs Eddie 505 kg at ASC 2015.
Z usually got an average carryover of 63 kg to hummer tires from the deficit Deadlift setup at WSM.
2011
Z - 442 kg on deficit globes
Z - 505 kg on hummer tires
2012
Z - 360 kg x 8 on deficit deadlift (predicted max 447 kg)
Z - 507 kg on hummer tires
2015
Z - 370 kg x 5 on deficit globes (predicted max 416 kg)
Z - 482 kg on hummer tires
Therefore in 2014, his max DL on the deficit set-up would likely hover around 458-464 kg - an average of 460 kg.
Given lifters seem to get 15-20 kg from the deficit set up to a standard deadlift bar. Shaw (445 kg WSM'16 - 463 kg ASC'16) Hall (445 kg WSM'16 - 465 kg ASC'16) Thor (420 kg WSM'16 - 443 kg ASC'16). Therefore Z in Arnold Strongman Classic 2014 shape would likely have been capable of 475 - 480 kg raw on an elephant bar.
In 2010, Zydrunas strict pressed 208 kg x 2 on Apollon's Axle with spades in the tank at the ASC - arguably in his top 5 greatest feats.
2017 Eddie Hall and 2018->early 2020 Thor could be the strongest static lifters ever in the sport of Strongman.
Yes I completely agree, If Eddie was still competing in 2019 I think Thor would have beat him.
Thor beat Eddie in 2017 ESM too...
Thor can't bench more than 250kg , Eddie benched 305 kilos .
@Hidde de Roos Deadlift world record with straps and suit - 500 kilograms (1,102 lb] (Current In Competition Record)
Axle press - 216 kilograms (476 lb) (world record)
Rogue Elephant Bar Deadlift with straps - 465 kilograms (1,025 lb)
Deadlift with straps - 463 kilograms (1,021 lb)
Log lift - 213 kilograms (470 lb)
Crossfit Grace - 60 kilograms (132 lb) for 30 repetitions in 50 seconds (World Record)
Gym lifts:
Squat - 405 kilograms (893 lb)
Bench press - 300 kilograms (661 lb) (equipped)
Leg press - 1,000 kilograms (2,205 lb) for 10 reps
Silver dollar deadlift - 536 kilograms (1,182 lb)
These are eddies records , thor never did a bench more than 250 kg , you say he could , well maybe but we are talking about actual done lifts not potential stuff , cheers .
Don't forget 2012 big Z
Eddie squat is so deep but squat Daniel is baby reps. Eddie more stronger than Bell.
Learn English, simpleton!
@@Asiansxsymbol ok boomer
There's being a fanboy and then there's this.
Would’ve, should’ve, could’ve. We’ll never know and that’s ok. All we do know is Bell is the champ and Eddie was the World’s Strongest Man.
exactly
I honestly think Eddie could break all 3 records in squat, bench and deadlift! I think Eddie could have gotten at least 2650lbs in sleeves and that's a conservative estimate!
I doubt Eddie could get over 740lbs on bench even training for a year or two specifically for it but 720 to 730 is definitely believable.
As for the other lifts absolutely 100% he could have!
One thing to bare in mind. Eddie's 585 x 5 was always done at the end of his workouts when he was already fatigued and he always went from 1 plate a side up to the 6 plate a side. A 300kg bench, even after 3 heavy squats would not be out of his reach
The strongest man who ever lived, Statically was Paul Anderson of Georgia, USA.
Deadlift with straps -- 1000 lbs
Bench Press RAW -- 650 lbs
Squat RAW ---- 900 lbs was PROVEN, BUT 1200 lbs was estimated on some of his stunts. He actually did a 1100 lbs squat with silver ________________dollars in boxes attached to a very unstable bar.
Overhead Press from a Rack -- 600 lbs
One arm Dumbbell strict press overhead -- 385 lbs
One Arm Dumbbell for reps --- ON TV -- 301 lbs X 2 REPS
Clean and Jerk -- 455 lbs.... First man over 400 in world history -- 1955
Snatch ---- 375 lbs ------------- Olympic Record 1956
Back lift --- Most weight ever lifted off the surface of the earth by human --- 6270 lbs -- year 1961
Hip Lift -- 4000 lbs Steel Safe in his back yard -- pictures and witnesses confirmed.
Lifting up the front end of a 56 Chevrolet family Sedan with engine block and all working parts -- 1962....pictures confirmed
Statistic for Paul
Height -- 5'10" Weight -- 330 to 350 lbs
Biceps -- 24" Thighs -- 36" Calves -- " 22" Neck "20"; chest -- 60"+
I’m going to open with, Eddie Hall would smoke a 1000 pound squat, 650 bench, and 1000 pound dead.
He would need to train for two months for a little loading and technique and then absolutely wreck it. I think a 1200kg total would be very fair if not a little conservative.
Calculations in this video of his bench and squat don’t factor in the 8’ wobble bar, not maxing the rep counts, and no belt. Your numbers are wildly low, but I get it because you’re being conservative based on things you could quantify.
Maybe there is a comparison on wobble versus standard bar weights and you could take his RPE into account to guess his true rep range to get a more scientific “guess”.
Eddies' death by deadlift is still the most impressive thing I've seen online.
First off, great video always love the content.
This is where the comparisons always become hard. In powerlifting you can sumo deadlift and bench with the widest arch giving you half the range of motion but you can’t wear straps. So it sucks that Daniel/ other powerlifters can’t wear straps so we can’t get a straight up comparison
345kgx8 with thar bar is NUTS
It would be amazing to see what Eddie could do if he really put his mind to powerlifting, getting used to how strict the rules are, how many lifts are much heavier due to pauses, no momentum and so on. What's shown in the video is when Hall has specialized within that muscle group. Being extremely strong in all events at the same time is very difficult, and I honestly think he maxed out his frame for the 500 kg WR deadlift - which may be reflected in how he got serious head trauma from it, whereas for Hafthor it was like any other heavy lift. These things are all just speculation. And if you start speculating, you must also ask yourself how the likes of Big Z or Hafthor would do if they put their minds and training just into powerlifting.
Hafthor for many years had a completely different strategy in strongman than Eddie did. He focused much more on mobility and longevity. What if he switched up his training program and the goal was just to be at his peak for 1-2 years, then back off? Which is pretty much what he did for the deadlift. A few months of serious prep, and easily blew it out of the park. It looked easy, especially in comparison to Eddie's lift. He probably had another 10-20 kg in him, atleast. If you gave that man 2-3 years to just do powerlifting, he would in my speculative opinion most likely beat Eddie. He's so tall and wide and his body is better suited to carry more muscles. I think many of the same arguments go for Big Z, or a few other strongmen.
So at the end of the day, there's no question that Eddie is a static monster, but it's VERY speculative. There's a million variables that come into play, and like I said, many of Eddie's records shown in the video are many years apart. If you apply the same logic to powerlifters, i.e taking their PR's over a 10 year period for each lift, their overalls are much higher.
Difference is Eddie did it, Hafthor did not. Despite indeed being way taller and all that, Thor barely beat Eddie's DL.
Eddie also had more in the tank looking at that last rep on bench he also had no spotter so I think he held back just a little just in case
yes eddie is the strongest man who ever lived i just have so many reasons why he is the strongest
I agree, over all he's the strongest
Faz Eddie hall vs peter petras
I deff think he is, didnt think that was even a question. All around the strongest
Would be so cool if Eddie returned to strength but I find that unlikely.
i think brian shaw comes at least presently pretty close to that "all time" seeing that he's pretty strict on not using suits, extra accessories himself he chalks up and pulls or lifts
i personally cant think of , or have seen brian ever use a suit, and he pulled over 1,000 (453kg) this year at the Shaw classic which is recent,
his grip as well is insane!
Eddie is once in a lifetime creation of God. If he didn't live, his static strength would have been only a mythical imagination or more suitable for anime.
It's beyond explanations how he was casually just that strong.. and he retired around 30, waaay before reaching peak
Very young. Strongman peak between 35-45 from what I have read. Eddie in his prime was the strongest ever in my opinion.
Eddie's strong but the wraps squat suit and other gear and OTHER GEAR! it makes to much of a difference.
If Mark Henry had done full time powerlifting instead weightlifting and then pro wrestling.
He would've been a SuperHeavyweight version Ed Coan. He lifted the “Thomas Inch" dumbbell”
What's scary about Mark potential power is that he went of out his way to prove he was drug free.
Imagine if Mark used with full time training……….dam!
Seems to me, if someone wanted to see the powerlifting record obliterated, eddie is the man to do it. Soon, before eddie gets any older, iffer him 20 million dollars to beat the powerlifting record by 100 kg's. I believe he could do it.
100kg 😳
460 squat
330 bench
460 deadlift
or something similar
@@asura8495 agreed
I think that Raw dealift is very generous. The difference is usually considered 20-30% with straps alone. throw in a deadlift suit and what not and I think its a big stretch
Eddie did lift 463 without a suit(yes with a strap but strap doesn't effect as much as the suit and it was in 2015 sooo imo eddie could easily lift 445-460)
Can you please update this video Dan Bell is the true world's strongest man in history his grand total now is 2606 thank you for your videos they're awesome I like subscribe and share them please more can you do a video on Scott Steiner aka Big Papa Pump
I have been trying to make a video on him but there is very limited genuine info on him and the training video he released was all fake weights. I hope to find more info in the future
I like watching Eddie Hall try to beat Leah Shutkever in competitive eating. He's literally 3 times her size and she absolutely smokes him. He's a great guy in their videos on her channel.
There's nothing to admire about gluttony.
Eddie undoubtedly is the strongest man in the world!!
In most lifts, not all but yes I think it's safe to call him that, sucks it'll probably never be made official though
Should’ve waited until today to make this video after Daniel bells just shattered another total world record 😂
Hi Harri, it's true, wish I had a crystal ball😂.
2017 eddie squatted 340 kg for 15 reps in wsm
Hi Felix, thanks for your comment. It was 317kg / 700lbs but that lift is not comparable to Larry's because it was an equipped lift, e.g Eddie had a Squat suit and Knee Wraps.
I genuinely think Eddy easily wins the Squat. Eddy’s squat is usually no belt no wraps and a wobbly bar. What did Thor questionably fail at in the Squat 460kg. Eddy is at least as strong as a prime Thor.
Yeah for sure. I think he's a little stronger than Thor and Brian. In his prime at least.
change the title of channel to eddie hall universe
Erm, I'm not sure why? Out of my last 30 videos only 4 have featured Eddie Hall
BP would be over 300kg in my opinion. The reps in the video are easy and do not look specifically prepared to do max reps/max weight. He also uses the wobbly bar. I think he could do at least 5% more weight with a more serious setting and with a regular (non wobbly) bar.
even tho i think shaw is the greatest strongman, i think 2017 eddie was probs the strongest man to ever live
One of your best videos 👌
No. He's incredibly strong, but not a league above the rest. Thor has pulled a heavier deadlift and soon the likes of Pavlo will pull even more. Biby has done a heavier axle. Z was always a stronger squatter. Eddie was unbelievably strong, but not in a league of his own.
thats very true
He beat the deadlift wr by 37kg, not only beating it but absolutely smashing it, thor is strong as fuck but if he was to do the same as eddie did he would of lifted 537kg
@@thisguyagain24 he beat the previous record by 35kg. When Eddie pulled 500, he shared the record prior to that with Jerry and Benni at 465kg. I'm not denying for a second that Eddie was unbelievably strong, I'm just saying that despite how impressive his 500kg was, he's not a league above everyone else. Soon others will lift 505. Eddie will always be remembered as the man who made 500 possible, but that doesn't mean he's the only one capable.
Hafthor could deadlift more, but lost in terms of overhead and bench power, same for Pavlo nakonechnyy
@@benedictyeong746 yep, but the likes of Biby has stronger shoulders. Eddie was never able to lift more on the log than Z, although he did lift 1kg more on the axle. I'd never deny that Eddie is one of the strongest men to ever live, but he is not the absolute strongest, as he likes to believe that he is.
And when it came to well rounded strength and endurance Marius Punjinowski was the best.
For me in terms of pure strenght, Eddie is strongest by far. Also his strenght was complete as he pretty much didnt have any weak sides. Back, legs, shoulders, chest.
imo it was john paul anderson. bc of the two handed anyhow and back lift records (even if incomplete). louis cyr could certainly be another contender
There is a video of eddie deadlifting 450kgs on a 2 man bar without straps or a belt
when there is more money and fame in boxing Thor than powerlifting!
How are PEDa monitored in powerlifting and strongman? This would have some sway on my opinion. If all is equal I would definitely go with Eddie as statically the strongest man to have lived though he didn’t maintain that for a long period
Hahaha. They all do plenty of it.
Eddie pulled 420kg deadlift and 280kg bench in a powerlifting meet iirc around the time win wsm.
Hi Dante, The deadlift was done with figure 8 straps which are not permitted in powerlifting and the bench press would also never pass in a real competition because he didn't pause at the bottom and lifted his foot off the floor.
Logpress or Apollo should be the comparssion or atleast militarypress bench is nothing in comparssion :p
Strength events should always be raw imo… I don’t understand why you’re allowed deadlifting suits and straps and things like that.. why?
Eddie is wrong with the aspect of famous- many won WSM like many won Mr. Olympia... but Arnold as the one who bring a unlikly sport as BB was in these day...to what it is today - my point is- if a man like Eddie went to Poerlifting, breaks records,... he can be the one who lightet up the sport & it could be a great story to tell.... thats famous (sorry 4 my english gramma)
Thanks Tristan. I agree Arnold made BB famous.
Man I love Eddie hall simply put he makes the human race look a lot better.
No its Thor, by 1kg.
Hi, did you watch the video? I would say Thor has a slightly better squat than Eddie, pretty equal (marginally in Thors favour) in the deadlift and Eddie is considerly better at Bench press.
@@StrengthUniverse I was being sarcastic. Sorry if this was not clear. Thor didn't do it during competition, so it is a legitimate lift, but I don't think its as impressive.
@@Visual_Ghoul Sorry my bad, bit too engrossed in work, went straight over my head
@@StrengthUniverse I dont think eddie would be that much better than thor on the bench. Did you see how quick 550 moved when thor didnt even train for powerlifting. If he trained for it and came in at like 210 kgs I definitely think he could get atleast 600
@@shlok-vp4xr thor has always trained bench, have you not seen any of his older videos?
One might never know, what monster lived in the past
He even uses straps to carry the groceries in, so his heaviest deadlift one of his children.
:DDDDDDDD
Yes he is!
2017 Eddie Hall was the strongest man ever statically in my opinion. But impossible to maintain or keep at that peak for very long.
Eddie is certainly a credible contender.
Very interesting
Thanks Ken
Reality is - if Eddie wants to eat the other guy , he just eat him
Nah Thor 2020 was stronger than peak Eddie.
Just compare their deadlifts.
Eddie might win in press, but Thor would win overall.
Overall? Just compare deadlifts? You're sending mixed messages, bud.
Think squat est is too low, around 450 I would say, bench 300+, deadlift is hard, maybe 430 if his grip could hold it.
Quick Answer: YES
Eddie hall is the pinnacle of strength sports.
Agreed.
Strongman is better than powerlifting. He's already the strongest. Nothing to prove.
thor couldn't grip a 430 kg deadlift and his grip strength was way better than Eddie's. He literally won a grip event in WSM that year and only managed to grip 410 on a bar. It would be more realistic to assume Eddie's raw deadlift to be around 380
For Eddie’s bench press, did the system you use take into account the pauses he took in between his reps? Also, I wonder how many touch and go reps of 585 he could’ve done in his prime.
As he would have to do a paused rep in competition, yes. The one thing that is impossible to account for is the 8ft foot "whippy" bar
@@StrengthUniverse I agree, all bench presses are with paused reps. Like you said, the bar caused instability
Great video! Where did eddie say that squat wasnt 365 though?
Thanks, much appreciated. He mentioned it in an interview, I really cannot remember when.
@@StrengthUniverse more like 40 kgs I'd say, but in his last meet even though he got red lighted on 460 it moved very easily. I no joke believe a fully prepped 210 kg thor could get like 490 kgs very realistically
@@shlok-vp4xr Yes I'd agree. He did very well for only 6 weeks of training. I thought it was going to be an annual competition but not seen anything about it since.
IMO Eddie COULD have been the strongest but he never was. Daniel bell takes the win
I agree, shame Eddie and Hafthor didn't truly attempt to break the All time record
@@StrengthUniverse Hafthor did a lot more than Eddie for it. But i think Eddie would have been way better at it than Thor. He is simply to tall, he would have to weight 240 kg
Make a similar video for how peak hafthor would do in powerlifting, I think he'd take the wraps record and would be a bit stronger than eddie
Thanks for your comment, It's difficult as Hafthor only ever squatted in wraps and they can add at least 25kg to a squat.
The problem with Eddie is that he peaked for a year in weight and the sheer amount of anabolics he needed to (not lockout) his deadlift. he could not sustain that so he retired or he would have just been medicore using less anabolics. Whereas guys like Thor peaked with anabolics for 501, but still had room to grow - Thor could have been 20-30-50lbs larger where Eddie was absolutely overmax sized for his short frame.
@@joebot9309 yep he was juiced to the max and Thor does have a larger frame to carry the additional mass should he want. Still got to admire what Eddie achieved , just a shame there wasn't more longevity
I don't understand why did you say strongest man to ever live if you're going to take powerlifting conventions? Would that not mean strongest powerlifter that ever lived should be the title??? Also the whole may not use straps in powerlifting to me isn't an indication of one's strength. Your back still does ALL the work at lifting a weight whether your hands can hold it or not. The entire point of deadlift is to see how much one's back can lift, if a person without hands had a 430 lift with some special way of tying it to him would he not be allowed to have it displayed as his feat of strength?
But that's not what the title says, it is a question: "Is ******** the strongest man whoever lived, statically?"
@@StrengthUniverse so my question is then if you want to test a hypothesis which is based off a question an answer whatever you want it to be; do you put the subject in the realm of the system in question (strongest statically = strongman) you test or do you take him to a completely different test zone (powerlifting) and expect the results to be conclusive? (Conventions of powerlifting and strongman being so different that neither would function in the others' sport if you test them based SOLELY on their performance in their respective fields). If I wanted to test is Muhammed a great boxer? And I phrase it as a question does that mean looking at his MMA career is a great way to test it?
Big Z is by FAR better statically!
Zydrunas is stronger in the squat than eddie was at his peak. These two comparisons are much better.
Peak Eddie: th-cam.com/video/DOQfU9Ws_PE/w-d-xo.html
Zydrunas doing more weight easier. th-cam.com/video/JOsEauCk9uc/w-d-xo.html
If you put Z's numbers into a 1rm calculator you get 501kg. This shocked me too. I thought eddie was stronger.
I feel like straps should be allowed
Eddie Hall is one of the strongest men ever but the strongest ever to have lived no
Hey bill, definitely not the strongest ever but as per the title of the video "The Strongest Statically?"
Well eddie never competed so we will never now, but thor who is prob the biggest and one of the strongest wsm of all time did and he couldnt beat the raw record in wraps, btw thors biggest raw deadlift is 410 and hes nr1 deadlifter in strongman. People tend to underestimate powerlifting as a sport, especially when comparing it to strongman
He is the sthel , period
This doesnt make sense petras has the record total with 1160kg
That's not RAW, that's with Wraps which is not comparable as they can easily add 25kg+ to the athletes squat. Daniel Bell is the record holder in Raw powerlifting
@@StrengthUniverse ohh right gotcha thats a fair point
Faz Eddie hall vs ivan makarov
HI, good to see you comment. yes sounds like a good one
My vote would go to Big Z #1
Kaz easily weighed like what 100 pounds less benched more deadlift etc they banned him for 4 years now imagine hed have like 6 titles bench probably 700 raw weight less squat more and probably lose in deadlift but win more events bigger total and more titled he got screwed
I know two brothers that can at least lift the same but ate not bothered to do so in competition.... "easily"....
let's not forget the superhumans with 1000kg deadlift that live in the mountains
Talakhadze the Olympic weight lifter is stronger.
Not a chance
@@StrengthUniverse Olympic lifters have done rather well in strength competitions even though the elite have not participated.
@@StrengthUniverse Talakhadze is not as well known as British or American powerlifting athletes. But to lift that amount overhead is amazing. I know he’s a huge guy, 6’6” and 400lbs but he’s still human(barely)😂
Well good video, full of work. but even though Eddie won here, this video is no way "the Strongest Man whoever lived STATİCALLY" , this video can only show "the best powerlifter whoever lived". The 1RM has nothing to do with the "Strongest man". The strongman competition is there If someone wants to prove they are stronger. They can test themselves in eddies best year results.
Larry Wheels was a tremendous powerlifter and probably he beats that french bodybuilder Morgan Aste in all pl lifts. But the guy is shredded at 170 freaking kilos at his best shape!! he was not even in his best shape when he visited larry, he was 145 150 kgs and he was PAUSE REPPING Larry's 5 or 6 rep maxes(failure) like 20 25 times WITH HEAVIER WEIGHTS , WITHOUT FAILURE IN EACH AND EVERY EXERCISE. And thats not even a strongman, just a huge bodybuilder. Whenever that happened, Larry directly gave the title of being the strongest bodybuilder to him. So the strongman athletes are really the freaks of raw strength.
Hi Kaan, Thanks for your comment much appreciated.
@@StrengthUniverse we thank you for the content mister
2017 Eddie hall was the strongest man to ever live imo
hes not and the fact that he thinks there is no money in it just goes to show he has no clue what hes talking about ,,,,,, Larry wheels ,,,,,,julius maddox ,,,,,stefi cohen,,,,,,,dan green,,,,, are they broke?
Yeah Eddie Hall was the strongest man to ever live at his peak.