I’d have to disagree with the log. He almost strict pressed 230 with a broken ankle and strict pressed the 216 axle wr. I’d say you’d take him on pretty much any moving event though
I'd only dispute the log press, Eddie has insane static strength as seen from his 216 kg axle press. That being said, since this is an average of all events, you could have still won it.
Let's see where prime Hooper gets to. Overall well rounded guy for a light weight even though I think Eddie better at the log, max weight for sure. On the shawstrength podcast he mentioned he didn't even have strongman equipment to train with until later on so it was mainly commercial gym. STATICALLY strongest strongman. Zydrunas could give him a run overall. Deadlift Took Hafthor 4 years later when Eddie already retired. Eddie, Benny, and Hafthor best deadlifters peak wise. I'd be curious to know how well Brian and Zydrunas could have done if they stopped chasing the Titles between the two and focused mainly on the records.
Eddie almost got the 230 log press, what pooper hooper is doing here is comparing 2015 Eddie hall which we all know isn't his prime, also Eddie is a static monster no point in comparing reps. That being said we probably haven't seen prime Hooper, maybe he can get better or maybe he's hit his peak already, time will tell. Best of luck to him.
@@dheer730 log for reps is much more common than log for max, he’s predicting how they’d match up against each other in a generic average strongman competing using the more common event
216kg Axle press world record just doing this as an event for the world record at weight of 190kg, when Big Z did 215kg at a competition with 160kg bw :) compare that static strength to Big Z my friend
The thing with the log is, Eddie was injured and he intended to still go for the 230kg. But he lost balance twice. He got it up the second time but it still didn't count. It's truly unfortunate. I think with current WSM Events you would easily win against prime Eddie. When we take competitions like the Shaw Classic however... I think he would have eaten you as a sidesnack for dinner. In fact, I think with proper preparation he would still smoke 99% of the competitors in that event.
I've always felt like Eddie would perform much better at powerlifting rather than Strongman.Statically,he was and might still be one of the strongest human beings ever imo,but he always lacked a lot in terms of endurance and speed,he had brute strength but nothing else.
Don’t think he was ever a big bench presser but his squat and and deadlift would have been more then enough for him to do a ton of damage in a powerlifting comp.
@@brandonm4550 Nah bro there is a video of him bench pressing exacts 300kg.And he also could do 265kg for 6 reps.He would definetily put up more than a ton in a powerlifting comp.
I think you could definitely beat Eddie over an average full comp, but there’s no way you take him on the log. His max and rep PRs dramatically understate how strong he really was overhead at his peak.
His log for reps aren’t deceptive at all, his best log for reps is 158x7 Mitch’s best is 150x8 His max is definitely deceptive but for reps they’re pretty even and with lighter weights I’d definitely give Mitch the edge over prime (2016-17) Eddie because of conditioning
@@jaycolucci because for reps he was on par with other good pressers and his comp pr was 213kg which isn’t really considered to be that crazy, no one understated how strong he was overhead, I’d say he’s the second strongest overhead presser ever after big Z but result-wise he wasn’t
I'd say he wins the log for his attempt at 230kg (while injured) after winning Worlds. Basically, he would beat you at any overhead, squat, and deadlift while you would win all other events.
I think in pure strength movements Eddie was stronger in his prime. Like deadlift, squat, bench, and overhead press. But in his prime he maxed out his body, and I think you’ve only scratched the surface of what you can do max strength wise. I’m excited to see what you do in the future.
Eddie was significantly “stronger” but was also what, 50 pounds heavier? Mitch has him beat on speed and endurance. He’s at the point where he’s likely trying to maximize strength while maintaining his other attributes, while there was a time that Eddie went all out on strength
@@shaqitup so you are saying Eddie was ''stronger'' and Mitch is ''faster'' , it always makes me feel like everyone is missing the point , ''strongest man'' is not fastest enduring man'' you want faster and enduring then go look at table tennis or just tennis you will be amazed at how fast and enduring they are...
You definitely would beat him on many events, but with all due respect, Eddie was a hell of a lot stronger than you and everyone else in the gym. Squatting, pressing, and deadlifting in the gym he was unreal. It’s a tragedy we never got to see 2016 Eddie do a powerlifting meet.
To be fair, I think you could have replaced the frame carry with a squat for reps. Probably replace the log with an axle press. You'd get a way closer matchup then.
@@mitchellhooperstrongmanI like that you based these on events done. Rather than what could be done in events you have not done in competition. That's fair to you and your strongman opponents in these matchups.
Eddie was way stronger than you on the log, get real. Doesn't make sense to compare Eddie's performance when he wasn't in his prime. How about him almost beating the world record? Are you anywhere close to even getting 230 kg to your chest?
if we are speaking Statically Shaw has to be in the argument, he is a monster at almost every event. The Shaw classic this year showed that and it was his retirement year
@smuir6104 completely agree I was at the shaw classic this year and what brian was able to do was incredible. For my money he's the strongest man to ever walk the earth.
out of 20 common strongman events and based of my memory of how both have done: Eddie takes: Stones, deadlift max, max log, max axle, deadlift for reps, squat, viking press Mitch takes: Log for reps, loading, frame carry, farmers carry, circus dumbell, Yoke, shield carry, fingals, arm over arm Toss up: Truck pull(depends on weight), kettlebell/keg toss, and tire flip(just not sure what mitch can do but im leaning towards him)
You are literally one of the most well rounded strongmen right now, so making it extremely hard to beat in a competition, you will stay competitive for a long time.
I personally compare Mitch to Pudzianowski and I never see anyone make that comparison and I'm not sure why. They're both crazy strong and crazy conditioned, lighter than most of the competition, and Mariusz won a lot of contests.
@@outshimed Pudzianowski is a fantastic comparison! Similar in stature and weight to Mitchell, same lean build and excellent understanding of body mechanics. One of the reasons Mariusz was so good in strongman was because he was healthy enough to show up every year and give 100%. Mitchell's focus on health and longevity, along with his age, feels like the foundation for a new winning-streak like Mariusz had.
think the 213 in competition (which looked easy) gives him the win on log. not fair to say its even because of what you do in training. great video tho! keep em coming
Mr. Hooper. You are a very fair and honest man. You left out squat and axel. Eddie strict pressed an axel world record that held for years. He just missed the log world record. His squat was on par with his deadlift. You would get him on stones because his chest is too big to get his arms easily around the big stones. Don’t forget his bench press. You would have him on all moving events. He would have you on all pure strength events. If the competition was like the Shaw, he would win. If it is like most World’s, you would win. Best wishes for continued success in your career and for joy and success as a father.
Your genetics and knowledge should take you to places people have never seen before, knowledge is power, hope you can keep going for a long time to come 😊
@@RyanKim-p4o Oh no, at the moment I think prime Eddie wins a log press against Hooper. I’m just saying it’s funny to be called the fast guy when you also have a 475kg deadlift and world class pressing
hooper is like one of the fastest and most conditioned strongmen ever with like 90% of eddie hall strength. for me, thats enough to make him the best to ever do it. if he stays injury free, he will beat mariusz and zydrunas records at wsm wins/arnold wins
@@sethticer5108 right but capped at 475.....you must of forgot that important detail; being that fastest at lifting lesser weight's is a stupid argument
I disagree on the log and the dumbbell. The cyr bell is considerably harder than monster dumbbell. And I am calling no lift on your 140kg db. On the log, Eddie does tend to get overconfident and tries to strict press everything, but when he does use leg drive, he’s in WR territory.
The thing with the log is if you look at Eddie's best lifts overhead including the world records, he almost never struggled (think Bibby barely beating his axle press record with a massive fight while Eddie easily strict pressed his). 2016-17 Eddie would take almost anyone in any max overhead event. My thoughts are if there is a squat, a deadlift, an OHP variant, Eddie wins those events, but I do agree that over the course of the average competition, Hooper beats Eddie 8 times out of 10.
@@alexfrye6 I like Biby but he was leaned so far back it was basically a bench press and he never got stable. He was taking steps the whole time from the press to the drop.
@@Lanephotography222 You can lean as far as you want, if you don't use leg drive then it's a strict press. I've heard this a lot about Biby's axle press and it's just not true. Watch the video, he takes one step back to control it then pauses for a second while he gets the down signal. He then takes one more step while dropping it but this is irrelevant as he has already got the lift. The video does not show the ref so I can see how it could be misleading, but the down signal is at that point. I was actually at that competition. I sat in the 3rd row and it was a good lift.
I would disagree with the log, he was close to WR at some point. I understand that we shouldn't take ifs and buts in this kind of comparison, but when you put loading race as a benchmark, I guess we can go wild with some theorycrafting. Overall, IMO Eddie is wrongly considered as one of the greatest strongman, mostly because of his toxic fans that act like a sect members and prise his overblown ego. Sure, he was beast when it came for static strength, but it's not enough to be great strongman. He lacked endurance, speed, some more technical lifts like dumbbell or throwing were just average, his grip was just meh.
I like eddie, I wouldn't say that he is among the best of all time just because you are right with all the things you said, he wasn't very well rounded of a strongman as far as elites go and did poorly at alot of events unlike guys like shaw who never seemed to be out of top 4 in any event. However, I think he is among the GREATEST due to how much attention he brought to the sport and how he has helped grow it with things like the history Channel show.
In a full Comp I think you would beat Eddie. Really enjoying this series. Look forward to seeing who you compare with next… & to see yourself in your prime.
The organizers know the strengths and weaknesses of all the strongmen, and it is they who deicide who will win these competitions by picking the events for who enters.
I think in the context of a full meet you could probably edge Eddie out due to your conditioning. However for single-rep maximal strength events I'm going to give that to prime Eddie, at least based on where you are now. That said, you're killing it with your continuously improving technique and strength gains and I'm excited to see what your true peak looks like over the next few years.
Eddies strict OHP was crazy... If he could have added some leg drive, no doubt he would own several more OHP records. I would love to have seen Prime Hall vs. Hooper in a log press.
Hands down you'd beat Eddie. I changed my opinion on him based on how he lived up to everything he said about himself on the way up when he seemed arrogant but he still wouldn't beat you in a full competition ever, I believe.
Pretty fair. On average over multiple hypothetical comps I say Thor beats Moose beats Eddie. But who knows over time we might see you changing that - hope you stay healthy and hungry
short answer: if it was a static strength focused competition, like 2017, eddie would eat you for breakfast. but if it was like the more recent wsm's, with more dynamic/athletic events, you would beat eddie even easier than he would beat you at static strength events.
The absolutely STUNNING thing is Mitch is doing all this stuff at 100lbs less body weight than Eddie Hall! What would happen if Mitch weighed closer to 400lbs? How much more strength would he gain? How much athleticism would he lose?
Eddie would've put up better comp numbers for log if it weren't for the fact that he strict pressed most overhead events. Hell, he almost strict pressed a 220 kg in 2015, but passed out.
Eddie used the back arch technique in his presses. I don't think you can use your legs that much then. Imagine that you lean your back as far as possible and then push with your legs. It's probably not a good idea
I think in 15 years there will be a rookie doing a similar video vs Mitch Hooper and looking stronger. If Eddie compared himself to the guys 10 years before his prime he'd thrash them too.
32 contests - 3 wins - it can't be say better how Eddie Hall is overrated as strongman. He was one of the most statically strongest atlethes but most of his records he won as a 1st event (like Iron Biby) not compiting the whole event. Never won Armold (common, it's the most statical competition in strongman, isn't it). It's really funny when Hall's fanboys compare him with Thor or even Big-Z. So Mitch is already way better then Hall as well-rounded strongman.
I'm sure you would annihalate prime Eddie hall in a competition. There is a reason why you won more international competition in your rookie year than Eddie in his entire career😅
The records don’t show Eddie at his prime, he was in peak condition for a very short time before he retired. He was inches away from a 230 log with a broken ankle. Overhead power close to Biby with the clean and flexibility to go with it
I think for a fair comparison with Eddie you'd need to include at least 1 endurance event. Front hold or wheel of pain. Eddie's gift was pushing g his body to the absolute limit. If you got someone with Thor's Genetics, Eddie's Grit and Novikov's technique the would be no stopping them. Hopefully see you in Glasgow. Should be a great show.
Mitch huge fan! But ain't no way you're beating prime Eddie in Log. The speed of his 213kg log while he had a injury was crazy fast. Also he didn't want to jump to 230kg on the log after the 213kg but Bibby insisted and they missed the 230kg but I think Eddie could've easily done at least 222kg. Don't think we've seen his full potential on dumbell as well. I think any competition with a form of overhead press, squat & DL it would be tough to beat prime Eddie. You definitely got him on moving events tho.
Everything can and always will be disputed but it must be very satisfying to be able to compare yourself and beat some of the greats and i see your amazing potential. This will be fun to look at in the future when you have far surpassed yourself, You should be proud
You probably would have beat Eddie over all. I do not think you would have won log press or Viking press. Eddie was heavy and not that fast. He is funny!
On the log for reps yes. On the log for 1 rep max no. Eddies pressing power was insane and most of his ohp he did even the axle world record he barley had any leg drive. He also pressed the world record log overhead he didnt get it but that is still crazy strong. To this day im sure his shoulder power is still absolutely ridiculous
Eddie used the back arch technique in his presses. I don't think you can use your legs that much then. Imagine that you lean your back as far as possible and then push with your legs. It's probably not a good idea
You are definitely a better strongman than Eddie Hall. The guy was great at a few things and the stars/events aligned for his WSM win. You won WSM with your worst set of events. I think any way you measure it besides deadlift, Mitchell Hooper is a better strongman than Eddie Hall.
I think this shows how good Hooper is at bringing it at the shows - someone like Eddie or some current strongmen are statically stronger, i.e. Eddie on log, but were/are a bit inconsistent at hitting it in comp. Hooper seems to always get to within a very high %, or exceed his training max's
Eddie in his prime should win max log quite comfy. His shoulders are insanely strong. Idk about a max rep. But i wish you 2 were in comp at the same time. Would be a hell of a battle
Yes but with all due respect Eddie didn't get a chance to try the Austrian oak 205kg again after he reached his strongest overhead. Or indeed a 200kg for reps. In 2018 he did 213kg with next to zero leg drive easily and was like an inch away from locking 230kg out. Aswell as his strict 216kg axle with ease in 2017. Regardless of you being one of the most genetic freaks in the sports history Mitch, surely you aren't saying you could match any of those right now? Also he did 211kg strict log at BSM very fast.
'I would say that if you pulled the numbers for ALL of the events that you have BOTH done, and not just seven events, that you would get a better picture of 'All-Aroundness'. I know that in a comp you only do a specific number, and the events themselves sometimes favor one person over another, but if you just look across the board at all events that you have a commonality with Eddie, then you will have a much clearer picture of how you two compare. I loved watching Eddie chase Brian, Big Z, and Thor, and I really enjoy the way you approach the sport, so I would love to see those numbers.
Great series you have going on right now. It's is fun, innovative, gets easy views, and you have so many people you can go against for an endless supply of content.
Eddie did almost beat big z log record it was almost locked out. An his axle record was a way better rep than bibys. But i do beleive the moose is capable of trampling those records
I think if you were competing against prime Eddie he would have changed strategy to accomodate a little bit. That being said I've never seen as much heart as Eddie had when competing and absolute disregard for his own life. The clash between the two of you would be something to behold! I think you're going to surpass many more records Mitchell, love your content. Best from Spain.
Eddie incline bench pressed 260 kg for reps in his workouts. Thats some static upper body strength no other strongman was ever even close to comparing to.
I disagree with the log and the dumbbell, but I still think you'd beat him in an overall competition. His pressing power was genuinely inhuman, as shown by him strict pressing the 216kg axle and barely missing the 230kg log. As for the dumbbell, I think a draw would've been the more accurate conclusion. Assuming there was legitimate judging (unlike with what happened at worlds - your dumbbell was questionable, but Evan's was absolutely horrendous) and the same equipment, you both would likely tie
ahhhh the competitiveness, i imagine you wanna redo these videos in your future prime. youre a force to be reckoned with good sir, i love your style, lets go buddy :) 2x WSM? Love from Australia
I really think event combos play a big part in who wins as well as body health. I've seen to many times where Person A beats Person B multiple times, but Person C beats Person A, but loses to Person B. It's what gains this sports popularity in recent years. All the factors that come into play makes it hard to predict a winner.
Really enjoying these videos. As someone who doesn't really know you yet, but that is a big fan of past champions and follows Eddie and Bryan nonstop, these videos are kinda putting you in the spotlight and showing that you are pretty humble, which makes for good role models. It's crazy to me to see how much bigger Thor and Bryan seem compared to you but your numbers are right there with them. Looking forward to seeing you lead us into the future.
you got the dub. Eddie was a good strongman but became a legend for two things, the deadlift and the axle clean and press. (and hitting brian w a huge medicine ball). Power to him for battling it out when Z, Brian and Thor were around, those guys were animals. Would love to see a Big Z comparison next
try and do the 2017 europes and the 2017 worlds events on him and his results, where he peaked. at the 2018 britains he had a bad hip injury to deal with. you probably beat him at most shows tho, byt in the end of the day, he was pretty good in many events aswell as the best in some, and being more or less injuryfree eddie would be relatvly hard to beat at his peak. congrats on the wins and great carrier so far Mitch
Hi, great episode, I think with these events you should be able to win most of these face offs to be fair. Oh, you could do like a little point system in top right and top left, like face of one person and points and face of the other and points, would be fun and of course you could pick some ridiculous pictures too :D
How did you choose the events? Would be interesting to see how you (now) would have done in the 2017 competition. Not saying the events are unfair, I do believe they make up a good competition, but they weren't the events with which Eddie won.
The events he chose were based on an average strongman comp, log and dumbbell are the most common overhead every comp has deadlift and stones and then 3 moving events The events in 2017 were tailored for Eddie, despite that I think Mitch would have been around 4th place but it’s possible that with Mitch in the lineup there would have been enough of a shift in points that hafthor would have won
@@oceanbanana4341obviously it depends on which of the 10 doesn’t make finals but I my analysis after removing Nick best or big Z was Thor would have won narrowly, Brian and Eddie 2/3 and martins and Mitch 4/5
@@santiagosteven6105 The medley was REMOVED, and replaced with a 4th STATIC - in order to favour Eddie Hall and hinder Thor. Yet - THOR still came within 0.5 points of the win, even WITH the cheating from Hall / Bryce. Go figure. Had the events been ran as normal, without medling and cheating, Thor would have been what? 5-6 points clear in the lead? Don't talk crazy to me, thanks.
Eddie at his best was a better presser. In competition, he's pressed a heavier log. If you can do 215 kg in competition, that you can legit say you're better. You haven't peaked yet. Also, he's about your height, but had to put on an extra hundred pounds. You're better in most phases of the game at a relatively light 320 pounds. lol
I’d personally say it all depends on what events are in the competition. If there’s a deadlift axel press squat Viking press plane/truck pull I’d give Eddie the win as it’s more static I’d give Hooper the win if the events are more round and more moving
I’d have to disagree with the log. He almost strict pressed 230 with a broken ankle and strict pressed the 216 axle wr. I’d say you’d take him on pretty much any moving event though
i agree eddies pressing was pretty insane.
That 213kg was easy for Eddie
if he had leg drive i see no reason why he wouldnt get the 230kg log, even if he did use a little
Eddie would win squats and deadlifts event, also wouldn't be too sure about the matle stone event
agree, Eddie has one of the strongest shoulders ever in WSM
I'd only dispute the log press, Eddie has insane static strength as seen from his 216 kg axle press. That being said, since this is an average of all events, you could have still won it.
For reps at all weights I’d say they’re pretty even based on results
Let's see where prime Hooper gets to. Overall well rounded guy for a light weight even though I think Eddie better at the log, max weight for sure. On the shawstrength podcast he mentioned he didn't even have strongman equipment to train with until later on so it was mainly commercial gym. STATICALLY strongest strongman. Zydrunas could give him a run overall. Deadlift Took Hafthor 4 years later when Eddie already retired. Eddie, Benny, and Hafthor best deadlifters peak wise. I'd be curious to know how well Brian and Zydrunas could have done if they stopped chasing the Titles between the two and focused mainly on the records.
Eddie almost got the 230 log press, what pooper hooper is doing here is comparing 2015 Eddie hall which we all know isn't his prime, also Eddie is a static monster no point in comparing reps.
That being said we probably haven't seen prime Hooper, maybe he can get better or maybe he's hit his peak already, time will tell. Best of luck to him.
@@dheer730 log for reps is much more common than log for max, he’s predicting how they’d match up against each other in a generic average strongman competing using the more common event
216kg Axle press world record just doing this as an event for the world record at weight of 190kg, when Big Z did 215kg at a competition with 160kg bw :)
compare that static strength to Big Z my friend
The thing with the log is, Eddie was injured and he intended to still go for the 230kg. But he lost balance twice. He got it up the second time but it still didn't count. It's truly unfortunate.
I think with current WSM Events you would easily win against prime Eddie. When we take competitions like the Shaw Classic however... I think he would have eaten you as a sidesnack for dinner. In fact, I think with proper preparation he would still smoke 99% of the competitors in that event.
The real question is - how much higher will prime Mitchell Hooper be?
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I'd say you're no where near prime yet, you're still pretty young imo
Rookie hooper needs to focus only on strongman and improve on weak areas. He has great potential to become a goat.
I've always felt like Eddie would perform much better at powerlifting rather than Strongman.Statically,he was and might still be one of the strongest human beings ever imo,but he always lacked a lot in terms of endurance and speed,he had brute strength but nothing else.
Yep, I'm amazed he never transitioned to Powerlifting
@@TheImmenseFenceHe likes the spotlight, powerlifting isn’t big enough for him, I think he even talked about it in some video
So what you're saying is, he was great at actually being strong.....
Don’t think he was ever a big bench presser but his squat and and deadlift would have been more then enough for him to do a ton of damage in a powerlifting comp.
@@brandonm4550 Nah bro there is a video of him bench pressing exacts 300kg.And he also could do 265kg for 6 reps.He would definetily put up more than a ton in a powerlifting comp.
I think you could definitely beat Eddie over an average full comp, but there’s no way you take him on the log.
His max and rep PRs dramatically understate how strong he really was overhead at his peak.
His log for reps aren’t deceptive at all, his best log for reps is 158x7 Mitch’s best is 150x8
His max is definitely deceptive but for reps they’re pretty even and with lighter weights I’d definitely give Mitch the edge over prime (2016-17) Eddie because of conditioning
why do they dramatically understate how strong he reall was overhead at his peak? @joshrud9756
It's debatable for sure. Should prob be a draw
@@jaycolucci because for reps he was on par with other good pressers and his comp pr was 213kg which isn’t really considered to be that crazy, no one understated how strong he was overhead, I’d say he’s the second strongest overhead presser ever after big Z but result-wise he wasn’t
@@dantethunderstone2118 158x7 is way better than 150x8.
lol eddies 213k log looked like a warm up rep
I'd say he wins the log for his attempt at 230kg (while injured) after winning Worlds. Basically, he would beat you at any overhead, squat, and deadlift while you would win all other events.
It was 230. The record stood at 228
I think in pure strength movements Eddie was stronger in his prime. Like deadlift, squat, bench, and overhead press. But in his prime he maxed out his body, and I think you’ve only scratched the surface of what you can do max strength wise. I’m excited to see what you do in the future.
Eddie was significantly “stronger” but was also what, 50 pounds heavier? Mitch has him beat on speed and endurance. He’s at the point where he’s likely trying to maximize strength while maintaining his other attributes, while there was a time that Eddie went all out on strength
@@shaqitup Agree, Mr. hooper is as the advantage with lifts that involve lots of technique and movement. I bet his power clean is very good
@@shaqitup More like at least 100 pounds heavier. Not that bodyweight matters in the standings or records.
@@shaqitup so you are saying Eddie was ''stronger'' and Mitch is ''faster'' , it always makes me feel like everyone is missing the point , ''strongest man'' is not fastest enduring man'' you want faster and enduring then go look at table tennis or just tennis you will be amazed at how fast and enduring they are...
You definitely would beat him on many events, but with all due respect, Eddie was a hell of a lot stronger than you and everyone else in the gym. Squatting, pressing, and deadlifting in the gym he was unreal. It’s a tragedy we never got to see 2016 Eddie do a powerlifting meet.
Always loved watching Eddie in the static events, was an absolute monster.
To be fair, I think you could have replaced the frame carry with a squat for reps. Probably replace the log with an axle press. You'd get a way closer matchup then.
I haven’t had the opportunity to do a squat or axel in comp. I’m exited for either! I want to keep it based on the data not hypotheticals!
@@mitchellhooperstrongmanI like that you based these on events done. Rather than what could be done in events you have not done in competition. That's fair to you and your strongman opponents in these matchups.
log and frame carry are waaaaay more comen then squat for reps and axle tho
Eddie was way stronger than you on the log, get real. Doesn't make sense to compare Eddie's performance when he wasn't in his prime. How about him almost beating the world record? Are you anywhere close to even getting 230 kg to your chest?
You forgot to measure who is more hydrated in this one.
If speaking pure strength, Eddie.
People forget how much Eddie improved from 2015-17.
Looking at his 2015 results isn't really comparing to "peak Eddie".
I really like these comparison videos. Excited to see where you'll be in your prime 💪
You and me both! 👀
would have loved to see eddie in a contest like the Shaw classic. He did really well in those static strength events.
I'd say eddie statically is one of the strongest ever, but hooper is better all around
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Eddie is a legend!
if we are speaking Statically Shaw has to be in the argument, he is a monster at almost every event. The Shaw classic this year showed that and it was his retirement year
@smuir6104 completely agree I was at the shaw classic this year and what brian was able to do was incredible. For my money he's the strongest man to ever walk the earth.
@@smuir6104 shaw was not that great at overhead events. very good, but not at a world record level like eddie was
Data is good. I like data. Would love to see a Mateusz Kieliszkowski comparison!
out of 20 common strongman events and based of my memory of how both have done:
Eddie takes: Stones, deadlift max, max log, max axle, deadlift for reps, squat, viking press
Mitch takes: Log for reps, loading, frame carry, farmers carry, circus dumbell, Yoke, shield carry, fingals, arm over arm
Toss up: Truck pull(depends on weight), kettlebell/keg toss, and tire flip(just not sure what mitch can do but im leaning towards him)
You are literally one of the most well rounded strongmen right now, so making it extremely hard to beat in a competition,
you will stay competitive for a long time.
I personally compare Mitch to Pudzianowski and I never see anyone make that comparison and I'm not sure why. They're both crazy strong and crazy conditioned, lighter than most of the competition, and Mariusz won a lot of contests.
@@outshimed Pudzianowski is a fantastic comparison! Similar in stature and weight to Mitchell, same lean build and excellent understanding of body mechanics. One of the reasons Mariusz was so good in strongman was because he was healthy enough to show up every year and give 100%. Mitchell's focus on health and longevity, along with his age, feels like the foundation for a new winning-streak like Mariusz had.
think the 213 in competition (which looked easy) gives him the win on log. not fair to say its even because of what you do in training. great video tho! keep em coming
Mr. Hooper. You are a very fair and honest man. You left out squat and axel. Eddie strict pressed an axel world record that held for years. He just missed the log world record. His squat was on par with his deadlift. You would get him on stones because his chest is too big to get his arms easily around the big stones. Don’t forget his bench press. You would have him on all moving events. He would have you on all pure strength events. If the competition was like the Shaw, he would win. If it is like most World’s, you would win. Best wishes for continued success in your career and for joy and success as a father.
Your genetics and knowledge should take you to places people have never seen before, knowledge is power, hope you can keep going for a long time to come 😊
Should have taken the biggest comp log number like you did for deadlifts. And compare Axle press numbers too
Eddie = strongest static strength
Hooper = speed
And Hooper is the more well rounded strongman. He’s one of the fastest strongmen ever while having a 475kg deadlift and 215kg log press lol
@@sethticer5108 you mudt be delusional thinking hooper has a better log. Mind you, the weights keep goimg up every year.
@@RyanKim-p4o Oh no, at the moment I think prime Eddie wins a log press against Hooper. I’m just saying it’s funny to be called the fast guy when you also have a 475kg deadlift and world class pressing
hooper is like one of the fastest and most conditioned strongmen ever with like 90% of eddie hall strength. for me, thats enough to make him the best to ever do it. if he stays injury free, he will beat mariusz and zydrunas records at wsm wins/arnold wins
@@sethticer5108 right but capped at 475.....you must of forgot that important detail; being that fastest at lifting lesser weight's is a stupid argument
I disagree on the log and the dumbbell. The cyr bell is considerably harder than monster dumbbell. And I am calling no lift on your 140kg db. On the log, Eddie does tend to get overconfident and tries to strict press everything, but when he does use leg drive, he’s in WR territory.
The thing with the log is if you look at Eddie's best lifts overhead including the world records, he almost never struggled (think Bibby barely beating his axle press record with a massive fight while Eddie easily strict pressed his). 2016-17 Eddie would take almost anyone in any max overhead event. My thoughts are if there is a squat, a deadlift, an OHP variant, Eddie wins those events, but I do agree that over the course of the average competition, Hooper beats Eddie 8 times out of 10.
Biby strict pressed the axle record too, it's the clean that's the problem in general and especially for Biby
@@alexfrye6 I like Biby but he was leaned so far back it was basically a bench press and he never got stable. He was taking steps the whole time from the press to the drop.
@@Lanephotography222 You can lean as far as you want, if you don't use leg drive then it's a strict press.
I've heard this a lot about Biby's axle press and it's just not true. Watch the video, he takes one step back to control it then pauses for a second while he gets the down signal. He then takes one more step while dropping it but this is irrelevant as he has already got the lift.
The video does not show the ref so I can see how it could be misleading, but the down signal is at that point. I was actually at that competition. I sat in the 3rd row and it was a good lift.
IMO the 1500 lb+ Bale Tote Yokes were much better tests of strength than 500 kg yoke.
I’d love to give it a crack!
I would disagree with the log, he was close to WR at some point. I understand that we shouldn't take ifs and buts in this kind of comparison, but when you put loading race as a benchmark, I guess we can go wild with some theorycrafting.
Overall, IMO Eddie is wrongly considered as one of the greatest strongman, mostly because of his toxic fans that act like a sect members and prise his overblown ego. Sure, he was beast when it came for static strength, but it's not enough to be great strongman. He lacked endurance, speed, some more technical lifts like dumbbell or throwing were just average, his grip was just meh.
I like eddie, I wouldn't say that he is among the best of all time just because you are right with all the things you said, he wasn't very well rounded of a strongman as far as elites go and did poorly at alot of events unlike guys like shaw who never seemed to be out of top 4 in any event. However, I think he is among the GREATEST due to how much attention he brought to the sport and how he has helped grow it with things like the history Channel show.
In a full Comp I think you would beat Eddie. Really enjoying this series. Look forward to seeing who you compare with next… & to see yourself in your prime.
The organizers know the strengths and weaknesses of all the strongmen, and it is they who deicide who will win these competitions by picking the events for who enters.
I think in the context of a full meet you could probably edge Eddie out due to your conditioning. However for single-rep maximal strength events I'm going to give that to prime Eddie, at least based on where you are now. That said, you're killing it with your continuously improving technique and strength gains and I'm excited to see what your true peak looks like over the next few years.
Rookie Mitchell vs Rookie novikov next 👍
You’ve never pressed a 205kg log in comp either, no way those lifts are comparable. Should have done the giants or worlds log for reps
Eddies strict OHP was crazy... If he could have added some leg drive, no doubt he would own several more OHP records. I would love to have seen Prime Hall vs. Hooper in a log press.
One of the best squad lift 15 reps 2017 wsm only the beast eddie did no one won't do it
Agree with all apart from the log
And should be a squat in there too
Hands down you'd beat Eddie. I changed my opinion on him based on how he lived up to everything he said about himself on the way up when he seemed arrogant but he still wouldn't beat you in a full competition ever, I believe.
Pretty fair. On average over multiple hypothetical comps I say Thor beats Moose beats Eddie.
But who knows over time we might see you changing that - hope you stay healthy and hungry
Here is a 7 event comp
1. Yoke
2. Heavy Deadlift for reps
3. Viking press
4. Heavy squat for reps
5. Loading race
6. Your choice
7. WSM 2017 stones
short answer: if it was a static strength focused competition, like 2017, eddie would eat you for breakfast. but if it was like the more recent wsm's, with more dynamic/athletic events, you would beat eddie even easier than he would beat you at static strength events.
Love the series. Big Z NEXT!! 👀
Squat,Viking press, truck/plane pull, Axle press. Sandbag over bar
Great series. Assuming Z is next?
Wow, never realized how close you two were, and you still have so many years to go, mad respect and love your love of kindness!
The absolutely STUNNING thing is Mitch is doing all this stuff at 100lbs less body weight than Eddie Hall! What would happen if Mitch weighed closer to 400lbs? How much more strength would he gain? How much athleticism would he lose?
Any static lift Eddie would trump… tbh seemed like the whole shaw classic this year would have been a playground for Eddie
Getting closer to 100k subs. Nice work
Eddie would've put up better comp numbers for log if it weren't for the fact that he strict pressed most overhead events. Hell, he almost strict pressed a 220 kg in 2015, but passed out.
Eddie used the back arch technique in his presses. I don't think you can use your legs that much then. Imagine that you lean your back as far as possible and then push with your legs. It's probably not a good idea
I think in 15 years there will be a rookie doing a similar video vs Mitch Hooper and looking stronger. If Eddie compared himself to the guys 10 years before his prime he'd thrash them too.
Eddie was static king. Sorry bro he'd have had you in any static event
I think he gets you on log, eddie was almost the best log presser in the world, he had the world record log 98% done and lost balance
32 contests - 3 wins - it can't be say better how Eddie Hall is overrated as strongman. He was one of the most statically strongest atlethes but most of his records he won as a 1st event (like Iron Biby) not compiting the whole event. Never won Armold (common, it's the most statical competition in strongman, isn't it). It's really funny when Hall's fanboys compare him with Thor or even Big-Z.
So Mitch is already way better then Hall as well-rounded strongman.
I'm sure you would annihalate prime Eddie hall in a competition. There is a reason why you won more international competition in your rookie year than Eddie in his entire career😅
Mabye go with Mateusz Kieliszkowski he's similar to you, like this to help this comment to be seen by Mitch.
Enjoying this series.
Hooper vs prime big z would be fun to witness
I laughed so hard when you showed Eddie carrying the bikes. At the end he poops himself! Lol
The records don’t show Eddie at his prime, he was in peak condition for a very short time before he retired.
He was inches away from a 230 log with a broken ankle. Overhead power close to Biby with the clean and flexibility to go with it
I think for a fair comparison with Eddie you'd need to include at least 1 endurance event. Front hold or wheel of pain. Eddie's gift was pushing g his body to the absolute limit. If you got someone with Thor's Genetics, Eddie's Grit and Novikov's technique the would be no stopping them. Hopefully see you in Glasgow. Should be a great show.
I want to see you compare to the GOAT Zydrunas Savickas
Mitch huge fan! But ain't no way you're beating prime Eddie in Log. The speed of his 213kg log while he had a injury was crazy fast. Also he didn't want to jump to 230kg on the log after the 213kg but Bibby insisted and they missed the 230kg but I think Eddie could've easily done at least 222kg. Don't think we've seen his full potential on dumbell as well. I think any competition with a form of overhead press, squat & DL it would be tough to beat prime Eddie. You definitely got him on moving events tho.
Everything can and always will be disputed but it must be very satisfying to be able to compare yourself and beat some of the greats and i see your amazing potential. This will be fun to look at in the future when you have far surpassed yourself, You should be proud
You probably would have beat Eddie over all. I do not think you would have won log press or Viking press. Eddie was heavy and not that fast. He is funny!
Have not watched yet but I bet this will be simple enough.
Static: Eddie
Speed: Moose
On the log for reps yes. On the log for 1 rep max no. Eddies pressing power was insane and most of his ohp he did even the axle world record he barley had any leg drive. He also pressed the world record log overhead he didnt get it but that is still crazy strong. To this day im sure his shoulder power is still absolutely ridiculous
Eddie used the back arch technique in his presses. I don't think you can use your legs that much then. Imagine that you lean your back as far as possible and then push with your legs. It's probably not a good idea
You are definitely a better strongman than Eddie Hall. The guy was great at a few things and the stars/events aligned for his WSM win. You won WSM with your worst set of events. I think any way you measure it besides deadlift, Mitchell Hooper is a better strongman than Eddie Hall.
I want to see a comparison between you and the legend Brian shaw
*Prime Mitchel Hooper vs Prime Eddie Hall would be a more accurate title
The numbers are the numbers, but you need someone to really push you to perform your best.
do your rookie year versus Mike Jenkins best results.... this would be a close matchup
Really like this new series
More to come! 💪
I think this shows how good Hooper is at bringing it at the shows - someone like Eddie or some current strongmen are statically stronger, i.e. Eddie on log, but were/are a bit inconsistent at hitting it in comp. Hooper seems to always get to within a very high %, or exceed his training max's
Shots fired
Eddie in his prime should win max log quite comfy. His shoulders are insanely strong. Idk about a max rep. But i wish you 2 were in comp at the same time. Would be a hell of a battle
Would we not agree that my shoulders are also strong? 200kg log for a double at Shaw 👀
Yes but with all due respect Eddie didn't get a chance to try the Austrian oak 205kg again after he reached his strongest overhead. Or indeed a 200kg for reps. In 2018 he did 213kg with next to zero leg drive easily and was like an inch away from locking 230kg out. Aswell as his strict 216kg axle with ease in 2017. Regardless of you being one of the most genetic freaks in the sports history Mitch, surely you aren't saying you could match any of those right now? Also he did 211kg strict log at BSM very fast.
Eddie had broken his ankle three weeks before almost getting the 230kg. For the time being I think Eddie is still ahead on that lift.
'I would say that if you pulled the numbers for ALL of the events that you have BOTH done, and not just seven events, that you would get a better picture of 'All-Aroundness'. I know that in a comp you only do a specific number, and the events themselves sometimes favor one person over another, but if you just look across the board at all events that you have a commonality with Eddie, then you will have a much clearer picture of how you two compare. I loved watching Eddie chase Brian, Big Z, and Thor, and I really enjoy the way you approach the sport, so I would love to see those numbers.
Great series you have going on right now. It's is fun, innovative, gets easy views, and you have so many people you can go against for an endless supply of content.
Eddie did almost beat big z log record it was almost locked out. An his axle record was a way better rep than bibys. But i do beleive the moose is capable of trampling those records
The log would be damn close but I think Eddie could win for sure. The stones would also be closer than most expect. I think you win 4-3 still
Another awesome vid moose. I hope you do a comparison vid against brian shaw in his prime. Big z too. Loving this series and thank you for doing it.
I think you’re going to have to box Eddie now 😂
I think this was a great way to stir up Eddie fans. I love the draw changed to a win for Moose. Lol. Might as well do B Shaw next.
I think if you were competing against prime Eddie he would have changed strategy to accomodate a little bit. That being said I've never seen as much heart as Eddie had when competing and absolute disregard for his own life. The clash between the two of you would be something to behold! I think you're going to surpass many more records Mitchell, love your content. Best from Spain.
Eddie incline bench pressed 260 kg for reps in his workouts. Thats some static upper body strength no other strongman was ever even close to comparing to.
Love these videos and can’t wait to see whose next.
I disagree with the log and the dumbbell, but I still think you'd beat him in an overall competition. His pressing power was genuinely inhuman, as shown by him strict pressing the 216kg axle and barely missing the 230kg log. As for the dumbbell, I think a draw would've been the more accurate conclusion. Assuming there was legitimate judging (unlike with what happened at worlds - your dumbbell was questionable, but Evan's was absolutely horrendous) and the same equipment, you both would likely tie
Eddie on an axle press though, pretty much unbeatable. Static monster, who managed to win stuff going against a Brian, Big Z and Thor.
ahhhh the competitiveness, i imagine you wanna redo these videos in your future prime. youre a force to be reckoned with good sir, i love your style, lets go buddy :) 2x WSM? Love from Australia
I really think event combos play a big part in who wins as well as body health. I've seen to many times where Person A beats Person B multiple times, but Person C beats Person A, but loses to Person B. It's what gains this sports popularity in recent years. All the factors that come into play makes it hard to predict a winner.
Really enjoying these videos. As someone who doesn't really know you yet, but that is a big fan of past champions and follows Eddie and Bryan nonstop, these videos are kinda putting you in the spotlight and showing that you are pretty humble, which makes for good role models. It's crazy to me to see how much bigger Thor and Bryan seem compared to you but your numbers are right there with them. Looking forward to seeing you lead us into the future.
you got the dub. Eddie was a good strongman but became a legend for two things, the deadlift and the axle clean and press. (and hitting brian w a huge medicine ball). Power to him for battling it out when Z, Brian and Thor were around, those guys were animals. Would love to see a Big Z comparison next
didnt get one thing, at the DB press event, if eddie lifted 124KG and you 140KG why did you say Draw?
try and do the 2017 europes and the 2017 worlds events on him and his results, where he peaked. at the 2018 britains he had a bad hip injury to deal with. you probably beat him at most shows tho, byt in the end of the day, he was pretty good in many events aswell as the best in some, and being more or less injuryfree eddie would be relatvly hard to beat at his peak. congrats on the wins and great carrier so far Mitch
Hi, great episode, I think with these events you should be able to win most of these face offs to be fair.
Oh, you could do like a little point system in top right and top left, like face of one person and points and face of the other and points, would be fun and of course you could pick some ridiculous pictures too :D
How did you choose the events? Would be interesting to see how you (now) would have done in the 2017 competition. Not saying the events are unfair, I do believe they make up a good competition, but they weren't the events with which Eddie won.
The events he chose were based on an average strongman comp, log and dumbbell are the most common overhead every comp has deadlift and stones and then 3 moving events
The events in 2017 were tailored for Eddie, despite that I think Mitch would have been around 4th place but it’s possible that with Mitch in the lineup there would have been enough of a shift in points that hafthor would have won
@@dantethunderstone2118 Maybe, or maybe Brian wins or maybe Eddie pulls further ahead. It would be interesting to see
@@oceanbanana4341obviously it depends on which of the 10 doesn’t make finals but I my analysis after removing Nick best or big Z was Thor would have won narrowly, Brian and Eddie 2/3 and martins and Mitch 4/5
He was also really good at axle press/Viking. Like Loz says, right set of events makes a huge difference in every comp
The "right" set of events as in "Let Colin change the events last minute to favour Freddie Small".
@@TheVanillatech Acting like it wasn't one of the heaviest wsm to date
@@TheVanillatechBut then Hafthor wouldn't have won 2018 with his events by changing to a medley 🥴😆
@@santiagosteven6105 The medley was REMOVED, and replaced with a 4th STATIC - in order to favour Eddie Hall and hinder Thor. Yet - THOR still came within 0.5 points of the win, even WITH the cheating from Hall / Bryce.
Go figure.
Had the events been ran as normal, without medling and cheating, Thor would have been what? 5-6 points clear in the lead?
Don't talk crazy to me, thanks.
I would say the odds favor the moose in a full competition but it doesn't go without saying Eddie Hall in his prime was definitely a true powerhouse
Eddie is a legend and one of the best to ever do it 💪💪
Eddie at his best was a better presser. In competition, he's pressed a heavier log. If you can do 215 kg in competition, that you can legit say you're better. You haven't peaked yet. Also, he's about your height, but had to put on an extra hundred pounds. You're better in most phases of the game at a relatively light 320 pounds. lol
I’d personally say it all depends on what events are in the competition. If there’s a deadlift axel press squat Viking press plane/truck pull I’d give Eddie the win as it’s more static I’d give Hooper the win if the events are more round and more moving