How STRONG was Eddie Hall Vs Hafthor Bjornsson in Strongman?
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- How Strong is Eddie Hall Vs Hafthor Bjornsson when compared in Strongman Competitions?
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Thank you for this long awaited comparison Strength Universe. And let us all comment politely and respectfully. Both are two of those rare athletes who took human potential to the extreme and they deserve mutual respect.
@John Everyman 😞 the bane of my life
You forgot 10 times Iceland strongest man.
No I didn't, it's shown at the end of the video under National wins
hafthors peak was atleast 216kg, i know its not a big difference but just saying
Controversies aside, let us just respect that both athletes were incredibly strong and we are lucky to have witnessed both in action.
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If Eddie put any effort comparable to his buildup to the 500kg deadlift into his axle OHP, I have a feeling he would have set a record that would have been untouched forever, or at the very least would have remained for a long time. When he broke that world record he used 0 leg drive, and not a single part of it was slow. I truly think he could have done 235kg
Maybe a healthy Eddie but he couldn't use leg drive bc of his bad knees. Like many heavyweight strongmen.
I'm not sure 235 is on the card any time in the next decade but I think he may of had the potential to get 220kg. The issue with the axle isn't so much the press from the shoulders, it's getting it into position
But haven't him competed at the Log lift Championship event alone for two year trying to break the record? Wasn't him training specific for that lift?
Eddie looked great on his 216kg axle press, but he actually really struggled on his 200kg attempt that day. I agree he could’ve set something higher. But then again Zydrunas Savickas set the previous record in 2010 and didn’t peak till 2015-2016. I think Big Z could’ve set a bigger record than Eddie could if they both prepped for it
He used 0 leg drive because he prefers leaning back and turning it into a standing bench press.
Great video. Very thorough.
Your analysis shows what I was expecting. At their bests, Eddie was arguably statically stronger, but Thor is the arguably the better or ‘stronger’ strongman when dynamic events are added. I think Eddie’s career was purposely short lived relatively speaking because he put everything on the line to be the best he could. He didn’t look that healthy towards the end of his run. Your thumbnail for this vid pretty much says it all!
Thanks Matt, great to read something balanced and positive
@@StrengthUniverse to be fair I started reading other posts after I posted my comments and a lot of others have already said similar. 👍🏻
i still think Eddie increasing the world record with almost 40kg in 9 months is the most insane shit ever. You can see how easy 470kg is for him the year after
looking at some of those events, i do consider that halfthor has a 6 inch height advantage, which helped in timed events.
Hafthor is also 10 times Iceland's strongest man
He is mate, that's listed in the video as "National titles"
@@StrengthUniverse i missed it at 00:25 and thought you forgot it.
@@pridefaith6561 No buddy, it's at 5:58
@@StrengthUniverse Oh yeah, sorry. Besides all of this Hafthor for me is still stronger. Besides all his titles he came also 3 times 2nd and 3 times 3rd in WSM competitions. Making Podium in WSM is also something that not all athletes achieve. If he still competing i think he is the only candidate to take 5 and maybe more than Pudzianowski
Yea dnt think will b broken if ever!Talk about dominant alpha,god dammit!🤔🤯😯👊💪💪💪🌶
It's hard to compare, the reason Eddie always beat Hafthor in static events is because that's what he focussed on, which is why he has so many fewer event wins. Hafthor didn't focus on becoming an absolute giant until the end of his career, while Eddie always did, so I don't think he was capable of improving similarly to how Hafthor did. This means that comparing them becomes exceedingly hard since Eddie was basically always in the version of his physique that Hafthor was by the end. And if we compare for instance Hafthors elephant bar deadlift his max in competition also beats Eddies I believe.
Also can't really compare years in the field since as I remember it Hafthor started earlier, that means that his extra years are mostly during his "not at his peak yet" years. Just because Eddie wasn't competing at that time doesn't really indicate that he'd have won anything if he had, Hafthor barely did.
Eddie was statically stronger for most of these years but Hafthor was the better strongman. Eddie was certainly more specialised in what he was good at. Hafthor caught up with him in lower body strength later but who knows how much Eddie would have improved. Maybe he wouldn't have improved. Tough to say, really.
Personally, I tend to look at strength in terms of maximal strength and thus would give Eddie the edge up to a point when talking about the strongest ever. But I would not mention Eddie in a conversation for the greatest strongman ever, unlike Hafthor. Had Hafthor pulled sth like 510 or 515, I maybe would change my mind about the static strength part.
"but who knows how much Eddie would have improved. Maybe he wouldn't have improved. Tough to say, really."
Considering Eddie "almost died" due to his weigh increase, it's clear he was at his peak. Thor never went for static strength. He's more clever and went for overall strength, mobility and stamina, which is why he's the superior strongman.
Just look at what Thor did to Eddie's DL record. He smashed it. He just realized that being that big meant he would lose pace, and stamina.
Eddie was stronger at pressing. He could bench 660 lbs, while Thor trained benching for many months for his powerlifting event but could only bench 550. Thor was better at some events though.
@@ytsux9259 Eddie has been practicing benchpressing for years. It's one of his typicall exercises. Hafthor on the other hand didn't really do it cause it's quite useless for strongmen. He only practiced it for a few months and then pretty much stopped. I'm surprised Thor did 550 after such a short period of time.
Bear in mind that Eddie tried to chase 300+ kg benchpress for months and failed. That alone shows that he was at his peak in this particular exercise. Hafthor on the other hand could have still progressed in it.
@@dctPL he only benches once a week, as he feels that it is not as necessary. I think he tells us this in his video with Julius Maddox
@@dctPL I agree both Eddie and Brian Shaw were shooting for a 700 pound bench neither followed through with it however I do think if those three guy's trained for max bench for the same amount of time, I think Eddie would press the most there's more money in S.M than there is in Powerlifting so no reason to really train for it as it could cause more potential injuries.
Honestly, Eddie is so Fragil and always injured for competitions ... Hafthor played an actor rol and got 1 of the best scores in powerlifting history competition (being a former strongman not pro-powerlifter)... so it was pretty obvious the winner
@@StrengthUniverse Done
OH MY LORD. I swear on my mother I had searched for whether you had made a video covering this sometime this week and here it is
This man's voice is so soothing I fell asleep and had to circle back and finish the video later.
Sorry buddy
Hafthor is the superior athlete. Eddie wins as far as static pressing is concerned
Both as great as each other very even really
I remember being 33,so young and full of piss and vinegar.Both great athletes
They both have opened more career opportunities for themselves after competing at highest level in their sport. These guys are pretty smart businessmen as well along with being insanely strong.
Eddie's shoulder strength. Man i want that. I just wish i had the presses of Eddie. Man he is so strong and compact.
If you're measuring strength with strongman events, then Thor probably edges in front. If you measure with static lifts, then I think Eddie takes the win. If you include the bench press, that would be another lift that Eddie easily wins, albeit Thor probably hasn't practiced this lift very much. I think both athletes could have won many more WSM events if they continued with the sport and I believe that one victory each isn't really indicative of their amazing strength and potential.
Eddie is the better power lifter and thor Is the better strongman .... he has too many titles, beat Eddie too many times for people to think they are even close.
Basically for axle, log and squat Eddie was stronger. For deaflift, grip and all strongman events Thor was stronger.
Yeah Eddie had better overhead but too fat to be fast in all strongman events
I see the comment that says this but i feel the same I've been waiting for this one
Great content 👍
Thank you
Also could have put Log lift in too?
Both strong lads though and a decent video, well done
Thanks mate, I didn't include the log lift because both have a peak in competition of 213kg (a draw) so it wouldn't have added anything to the result
@@StrengthUniverse I’d assume that Eddie has the edge when they have faced off in competition?
@@Dluger123 Over the years yes, he has won overhead every time, except one (Log, Axle, Viking Press etc etc), I included that stat in the spreadsheet
1:35 "But that does raise the question as to what may have happened if Eddie and Hafthor didn't retire".
Not one bit. Had they continued, Thor would've dominated Eddie even more, in both static lifts and overall strongman competitions. In Eddie's own words; "I almost died", "a puddle of blud", "200 bmp heartrate". The dude nearly died for his 500kg deadlift. Thor smashed it and played some CSGO later on.
Thor quit before reaching his peak, Eddie pushed himself and never won anything significant without the help of Colin Bryce. WSM2017 was rigged.
Shit, best result Eddie got at the Arnolds (The actual worthwhile competition) was 6th place. Speaks volumes.
I think Thor is stronger.
Both great strong man, but I expected more wins from Hafthor during the time following him.
SO CLOSE in strength that it’s too close to call… probably the two strongest men in the world and would have loved to see them compete against each other in powerlifting competitions…
Eddie hall strict pressed 476 pounds relatively easily..... Thor had to push press 454 and barely got it....
Thor is on video strict pressing 450 on a regular barbell. Eddie turns his axle press into an incline
Thor being taller and longer limbs hes moving the weight further then eddie has to also
Basically… what’s the point comparing, when neither can hold a candle to the greatness that is Brian Shaw, or Zidrunas for that matter.
thors the goat when it comes to mobile events, whilst eddie is the goat in static events. but neither of these guys r the overall goat simply for not being consistent enough. that title goes to either brian shaw, Mariusz Pudzianowski or Žydrūnas Savickas.
Great athletes how about just giv each other a great hug and get over it. Forgivnes shows beauty of a heart. ❤️
They are both undoubtedly brilliant athletes. But simply different events suit one or the other more. I'm a fan of Eddie but that doesn't change facts.
Edward rocks AXLE, DEADLIFT, AND SQUAT WHICH REQUIRES REAL STRENGTH
Bjornsson rocks ATLAS, PULLING OBJECTS, AND WEIRDO MOVEMENTS.
They might rock other exercises that I don't know
Huh?
As i always said these past 4 years eddie was the stronger in his prime on static lift, impressive shoulder,chest,quads,back power, but when he has to move hes not on the top, at least they dont have the same genetics eddie is not a 2meters viking haftor is stronger by his nature, eddie put all he could when he won the tittle, he almost died on scene lol, haftor with the training, the weight gained, he became stronger than eddie when eddies retired but i guess witout taking those risk like eddie
Eddie is and was a machine.
Lol do another strength comparison and include anything shoulder and chest related and Hafthor wouldn’t stand a snowball in hells chance. 90% of the events shown here were mobility related. Eddie’s mobility lacked, it’s his static strength that won him the title. Maybe do a bit more of an even comparison instead of all the events Eddie is worse at 💁 just a thought.
Instead of making ridiculous accusation such as "Maybe do a bit more of an even comparison instead of all the events Eddie is worse at". May I suggest that you read the title of the video
Eddie was a monster in static lifts, Hafthor was better allround athlete
No one fucks with Eddie in static lifts. Eddie Hall of 2017 was the strongest static lifter that has every existed on planet earth.
We need some big Z comparison
Who cares what happened in the same competition? Thor peaked later. Shouldn't be mentioned imo, you don't mention that when comparing others. What matters is who lifted the most, not when. Seems biased towards Eddie because of this imo. And the squat lift.. Again who cares about that specific competition? Thor squatted 460kg later on in comp, and thus wins the squat comparison.
Otherwise good video 👍
I showed their best performances (Squat, Deadlift, Overhead and Dynamic events), their results when they faced each other and overall competition results. How can showing facts be biased
@@StrengthUniverse They obviously can be if you present them wrong. Like in this video.
For example; someone who doesn't know better would think Eddie is the stronger squatter after watching this video, but we all know he isn't. Thor squatted more weight later on, 460kg.
But you didn't show the best performances, again if you did Thor would obviously win the squat comparison because he.... Squatted the most weight by far?
@@aron9457 You are trying to compare apples to oranges. Eddie has never done a 1 rep max squat with knee wraps, his best raw squat is 405kg and knee wraps add around 20% so you work it out before making accusations! I have shown Hafthor's best performance in the squat lift across 4 years of competition......These are facts, sorry if you can't accept that
@@StrengthUniverse Your doing a good job brother - we appreciate all your hard work.
@@StrengthUniverse Your defensive behavior about it shows that you are biased. You are a human like all of us and can make mistakes too.
You often do compare 3-10rms against a 1rm in your videos, so don't pretend it would such an outrage to do it in this situation.
I've voiced my opinion and I stand by it, but if you can't have a proper discussion about it without getting mad I won't continue.
This is a poor comparison biased towards Eddie imo.
It needs to be accredited to Eddie hall that he set the world record deadlift within a year and didn't need four years just to beat it.
I seriously doubt Hall could have survived 10 years of strongman. My guess is that his heart would have quit on him sooner rather than later. I'm glad to see him in better shape now though.
Hafthor probaply has the greatest waist genetic's, in strongman ever 460 pound's and a small belly.
Where'd you get 7 times from? They competed 14 times, with Thor leading 12-2.
2017 WSM Eddie 1st, Thor 2nd
2017 ESM Thor 1st, Eddie 2nd
2016 WSM Thor 2nd, Eddie 3rd
2016 ASC Thor 5th, Eddie 9th
2015 ESM Thor 1st, Eddie 9th
2015 WSM Thor 3rd, Eddie 4th
2015 ASC Eddie 6th, Thor 7th
2014 SCL Finals Thor 1st, Eddie 2nd
2014 ESM Thor 1st, Eddie 7th
2014 WSM Thor 2nd, Eddie 6th
2013 WSM Thor 3rd, Eddie DNQ
2013 ESM Thor 4th, Eddie 8th
2012 WSM Thor 3rd, Eddie DNQ
2012 ESM Thor 5th, Eddie 7th
What have I missed?
The most awaited comparison! 😉 However, there's no comparison in my humble opinion, Hafthor Bjornsson is the Strongest Man who ever lived. Zydrunus is the Second, Eddie is the Third and Brian is the Fourth. And here's why I'm saying that:
Brute Strength:
Deadlift, Squat, Bench and Log:
Zydrunus: 453, 452, 286, 228 = 1,419
Brian: 468, 410, 247, 211 = 1,336
Eddie: 500, 405, 300, 213 = 1,418
Hafthor: 501, 460, 250, 213 = 1,424
For Americans:
Zydrunus: 999, 996, 631, 503 = 3,129
Brian: 1031, 904, 545, 465 = 2,945
Eddie: 1102, 893, 661, 470 = 3,126
Hafthor: 1105, 1014, 551, 470 = 3,140
Functionally and Dynamically, (as a person who has watched almost every competition since WSM 77) out of the 4 guys, nobody holds a candle to Hafthor. He wins Atlas Stones, Husafel Stone, Kegs, any loading race, any truck/plane pull, power stairs and fingers.
And a Fantastic job as always Strength Universe! You were unbiased in this video and the results speak for itself. My only two gripes are 1). the Squat. Eddie wins on reps, but for 1 rep max, Hafthor's 460 stands out by quite a margin. and 2). The Track record mentioned 0:25 You used Eddie's UK and Britain's Strongest Man wins but overlooked Hafthor's 10 x times Iceland's Strongest Man titles plus another 12 Icelandic, Nordic and Scandinavian Strongman competition wins.
Another thing I noticed through my research is that Hafthor has Deadlifted more than 1,000lbs 12 times (13 reps) while Eddie has done 7 times. You can check the video I made (time stamps included for each lift) if you have some free time. 😉
Bruuuuuuhhhh, you didn't even factored in all the damn events Big Z was attending at the same time. Also, you giving Haftor an edge over GOAT Z because he has a 11 kg edge on these random events. LOL genius everybody, king has a crown. Don't you think Big Z would have add those 11 kg just on bench alone?? Since he haven't even tried to train for it and his pushing strenght is clearly on another planet.?????
@@MrVafflis I'm bringing numbers to the table. Actual 1 rep maxes done not on random events. Those are staples to measure anyone's Static Strength.
@@Nirsterkur had you been factoring in that Thor weights like 40kg more on average compared to GOAT Z
@@MrVafflis It's not about the weight you lift compared to your bodyweight. It's open. Whoever lifts the heaviest, is the Strongest.
@@Nirsterkur I wouldn't debate you on that account, but you chose powerlifting staples to measure strongman competition my guy. In powerlifting weight classes does matter. Anyway, what are we kidding nothing comes even close to GOAT Z when you're factoring in all the comp he's done at the same time dominating multiple lifts.
One beats up women, the other doesn't. So, as a human being, Eddie wins.
This dude likes Eddie hall
Instead of making accusations, how about you provide details about how you came to that conclusion?
@@StrengthUniverse do you like Eddie hall?
They both are top 10 strongmen of all time.
Eddie is not a top 10 all time strongman. He just straight up doesn't have enough wins in any of the major competitions. And I believe he only finished on the podium twice. That's not good enough to get into the top 10.
IMO at their absolute best in static eddie wins
Could be, they were very very close
I think Thor at max deadlift strength would have been too unhealthy to have been totally competitive at strongman events. No insult to Thor, you only have one heart.
The guy seating sounds bored …I’d suggest getting someone else in who has abit of energy about them
Total international wins: 3 vs 28 - says it all. Hafthor had a true love for Strongman, Eddie in contrast only ever cared what Strongman could do for him, only competed in shows where he had a serious chance of wining and retired straight after his WSM-Win to capitalize on that and to focus on building his brand.
Both are strong but Eddie is the King out of the 2
Good joke.
eddie could have done like 216 in axle press or more and his peak was stronger than halfthors
His peak was definitely not stronger.
I know that Thor might technically beat Eddie at some lifts, but I believe Thor was only pushed to those extremely impressive feats BECAUSE of Eddie’s forerunning. I think Eddie might be the marginally weaker athlete, but he is exponentially stronger than Thor mentally which is why I believe Eddie to be the greater athlete. My vote is for Eddie in the boxing match in 2022.
Thor was pushed by Shaw WAYYYYY more than Eddie.
Thor was pushed by Shaw and Big Z, you look in front of you, not behind.
"I'm stronger than both but I have no desire or time to show it to the world".
Internet strong guy.
Kyriakos Grizzly could legit say it, but he doesn't compare to humans
@@alessiobubbles5345 our lord
I do believe there are people like that, but they definitely wouldn't even lose their time commenting on the internet.
I can do 1 cock push up, apparently showing people is wrong so you'll have to take my word for it.
Well done mate. Much respect to you for being so strong and humble, not like these show offs.
The fact Thor was so good on mobile events and then improved on his static game so much he currently has both the traditional DL and Elephant Bar World Records while barely losing on mobility shows why he was one of the greatests of all time before retiring
He was much taller than Eddie and still just as statically strong, he was one of the heaviest strongmen but also one of the fastest. Is incredible how good he was in almost every event
Thor's the strongest man of all time, no question.
@@gabbeskillz6262 BS! He could barely bench 550 lbs after many months of training specifically for benching for his powerlifting event.
@@ytsux9259 not even going to bother arguing with someone that rates bench that highly.
@YT sux he had a six week prep for that meet
If there wasan't so much drama around these 2 athletes, i think it would have been more people agreeing with your work here 👍
Thank you. That's the trouble mate and why I have stayed clear of the subject until now, really don't like the bickering
Honestly people don’t give Thor the credit he deserves he was just hitting his peak and in two years only lost one competition with a torn foot (can’t remember the name ) n if he continued he could have been the the best ever he really had no weakness
True mate, his final two years are probably the most winningness of any strongman in history
@@StrengthUniverse thanks for the reply 🙏🏽
He and Eddie both had that potential, both were essentially held back my health/injury. I think that's why the rivalry is compelling. Neither is the runaway winner.
If is a great word
No if he continued his health would have diminished far too much, he was a late bloomer and when you weigh 400+ pounds your body cannot afford to be a late bloomer. Woulda coulda shoulda, he was indeed one of the strongest human beings to walk this earth at one point but to say he woulda been anything more than he became is pointless🤷♂️ I believe both him and Eddie reached exactly what they were meant too in strong man. Not anymore or less
I dunno that’s just me, have a great day😊
The difference between using momentum during the axel press compared to sheer pressing strength is massively impressive from Eddie, saviskus used to be the same.
Was gonna say the same rn. Also eddie lifting the 500kg deadlift was u thinkable at the time. The same cant be said for 501. Eddie hall was the strongest man in history for his sheer strength. Brian shaw was the greatest strongman ever
This video will put some fuel on an. Already hot fire..
The Year Thor won every major title is a testament to how good one man can be in one year, no man before or since has won all major titles, for this I would give Thor the marginal victory, he surpassed bothe Eddie and Brian dare I say in that year even the GOAT Z would have been hard pushed to beat him...
You're righ Goat Z is the GOAT. Tbf no other athlete comes closes when you're factoring in all the competitions he's done
So, Thor is on the same level with Eddie in many events (static strength), but let’s not forget about Thors world records in other events
Bag over bar (100 pounds) WR, Atlas stones in 2017 (heavy set) WR and several and a few more records
Eddie & Halfthor had two of the greatest peaks of all time in Strongman, but their overall greatness diminishes next to the longevity of Big Z & Shaw.
I couldn't have said it better 👍
Eddie spearheaded through the strength world doing the 500 kg and winning WSM the same year. Statically unbeatable Id say only Big Z would compare with him, Thor is overall strong but statically can't overcome the losses in the static events until WSM 2018 came. You set competition with events and each person will have there events there good at..
Hafthor has more International titles than Brian, mate.
Brian Z era was better, less hype.
I think Thor showed us all when he went for the deadlift record, what kind of a static monster he can be if he trains for it. I think for the most part, he had a different strategy than Eddie. He realised by training too much of big, static powerlifting-ish movements, he'd fall too far behind in movement events, which has very often screwed over other big names. Not to mention that Thor was active for quite a few more years, and seemingly intended to continue his strongman career for many years (until the boxing thing was agreed upon), so he had to think a bit differently to Eddie in that regard. Eddie has said that he only ever wanted to win WSM once, then get the hell out of the sport. Which he did. So he was able to chuck on weight and risk his health to a larger degree. So in that sense its to a degree an unfair comparison.
I think the best overall athlete is Thor, and his titles say he's the best strongman of the two. It would however be really interesting to see what Eddie could've done if he had stayed in the sport for a few more years. Would love to see Eddie and Thor compete against eachother in WSM. In my opinion they're in a different league compared to the currently competing athletes (except Shaw, but he's old, has family and business taking up his mind, not at his peak anymore). I'd love to see more strongman competitions focus on more static events again, but as we've seen with both Thor and Eddie, it gets to a point where they have to carry around so much weight that it's too much of a burden to be worth it. They can't sleep, can barely breathe, has to consume an entire cow after walking 10 meters etc. Alas, maybe the PED's and food science of the future will allow it.
Tldr.: eddie is the rosberg of this sport, thor is prost
Thor is as strong as Eddie in static events and much better at dynamic events. So he’s a better strongman overall.
Thor could have possibly been the greatest Strongman ever if he didn’t retire so young and Eddie could have been very likely the greatest powerlifter ever. Eddie was made for static strength while Thor was made for Strongman! Thor could have also broken the powerlifting record as he did 1 meet with only a few weeks of prep and got one of the top total ever!
None of them comes close to Big Z in his prime. Tbf no other athlete comes closes when you're factoring in all the competitions he's done.
"consume an entire cow after walking 10 meters" 🤣
That was what I was waiting for😎
After already seeing a comment accusing me of bias despite the video being based on facts, I'm regret making it
@@StrengthUniverse do not feel that way. Eddie and Thor just have a lot of fans and no matter how you present it, there will be an argument for bias, great content as usual.
@@charlieweislastbeltloop7804 Thanks mate, I just wish there was more respect
Hathor I believe had more potential than any strongman I have ever seen. He always let himself down by the odd silly mistakes that cost some WSM titles. At his peak he definitely could of gone on to win more
I agree. Thor almost definitely would’ve won the past 2 WSM competitions if he had competed barring injury
Defo some truth to that. I remember one year he was heading towards the win at WSM and then messed up squats. And came nearly last in that event. Think he didn’t wear a squat suit or something. He might have come second to shaw that year.
Hathor on the squat lift and deadlift he stopped early and could have done more weight as you see him not struggle as much on those lifts as Eddie
Thor was a much better strongman. Eddie only beat him once in his entire career. In static strenght Eddie had the edge by a little bit although i think both wouldve become much stronger if they didnt retire so early. Thors static strenght also peaked much later in his career as it is with most taller strenght athletes.
As a competitor, there is no denying Hafthor beats Eddie.
But when you compare prime Eddie to prime Hafthor, Eddie was better than him in almost every event.
@@GoofballLOL Well they both competed against each other in eddies peak and he still only won once. He had about a handful of events in which he beat thor in regularly. When hafthor sorted his static strenght issues out he literally was unbeatable. Winning every major comp in one year. Never been done before. He had no weakness placing top 3 in every event he did. Eddie had a few weaknesses
@@GoofballLOL
Prime Eddie only defeated Thor once before his prime by one point. How is he better in almost every event?
@@GoofballLOL Eddie won once by one point and with the help of Colin. Let’s get real here
@@joebot9309 that is why WSM 2017 was Taylor to static event to win the event. Eddie was great at static events. it's questionable Eddie best mate "Colin" setup this even for Eddie to win.
Both amazing strongman, but to me the 3 Arnold classic titles from Thor tells who had the best career.
Love them both. Eddie is a great example of dedication, stubborness and work ethic. 2018-2020 Thor achieved godlike status, and he has personally matured a great deal over the years - he seems a quite happy and more balanced person nowadays.
I think the difference in height is quite relevant, specially for some of those dynamic events. It just shows how much work Eddie had to put in to compete against these natural giants like Thor and B. Shaw
Matured? He threw all his toys out of the pram in 2017. Or do you mean he’s matured since then?
@@spacebum Since then.
i think eddie won the deadlift, he lifted only 1kg less than Hafthor but held it much longer
Really pleased to see this one, straight to the point!
Thanks Anton👍
I believe that at the time Thor did the 501kg deadlift, that he was most likely the strongest person to have ever lived. Eddie struggled with his 500kg, and he even said himself that he almost died. That was most likely his peak, once your body shuts down like his after a lift, that's a strong sign to stop. However, Thor's 501kg went up without a problem and looked like he still had more in him. He probably could've done 505-510kg that day. I just wish we could've seen him max out his other lifts before retiring.
Goliath was stronger 💪
There was a clear difference between Eddie Hall and Hafthors half ton lift.
Eddie was breaking human limit, hafthor wasn't and that's what made his lift easier than Eddie Hall's.
@@dawson6196that makes no sense at all
@@shlokgurudatta8466 You need a brain to figure out the difference or else people think like you.
Thor didnt even hold it for that long and is half a foot taller
If both men were the same height and told to hold it as long as eddie did eddie would easily look more impressive
Why did you mention Eddies uk/brittain strongest man wins but not Hafthors Icelands strongest man wins in their respective title breakdowns?
I believe there is no comparision between those two. Thor is miles ahead of Eddie. Eddie clearly was at his peak, almost dying and looking like a walking heart attack from the steroid abuse. He is the first strongman that i can remember to have palumboism and that's easy to understand when you hear him talking in his old interviews and how much he was willing to risk his life for it. He clearly reach a new level of static strength because he was willing to sacrifice his health and mobility in a way no strongman ever did. He reach 197 kg i believe, so imagine what kind of weight Thor could push if he was willing to bump his static strength like Eddie did, but that would mean he would not win major competitions like did, the type of cometition that puts your name out there to be considered the strongest. That, Eddie never reached, being a solid winner on high level comps. For Thor to even match Eddie's type of strength on the static lifts, puts him even above Eddie, because Eddie can't hold a candle on Thor's dynamic events. So, we're comparing a strongman that was good in a variety of events, almost with no weakness, with pretty good static strength while even increasing that on the end of his career against the guy that abused drugs and pushed his body to the absolute limit to gain weight and as a result lost a lot of mobility and dynamic strength. Seriously, there is no comparision, Eddie reached his peak and almost payed with his life but Thor never did. We never saw Thor's peak, im happy for his family and for his new life style, but we never saw his peak on the sport. When i saw him getting interview by Arnold on 2018 i believe, i saw the biggest human being to ever walk on earth, he made Brian Shaw look small. What would mean for Thor if he kept pushing his body to Eddie's levels? 220kg? 230kg? What about his static strength that already was at Eddie's level and even greater on lifts like the DL? That's what most people need to understand when they think about Eddie's static strength compared to Thor's, Eddie risked it all and was at his absolute limit, Thor wasnt. Eddie pushed his limits so hard, that his body got deformed, meanwhile Thor is looking like a bodybuilder without even training for it.
OK I didn't read that whole essay so maybe you mentioned this but Eddie also only won by one point in 2017 and Thor only got better from then
and you have proof of Eddie doing drugs?
@@heretoannoyu4706 he 1000% was lol. Pretty sure he would even admit it. All the top strongmen do
Lmfao look at this basement dweller
@@None-zv2qk again wheres your proof, what do you mean Eddies body was deformed, have you never heard of hard work, Thor took longer to win WSM, he even tried cheating and then cried cos he lost, Eddie worked hard to get where he is, got what he wanted and moved on
It is generally agreed upon that 2020 Hafthor would best 2017 Eddie in nearly all strongman exercises.
Shame they left strongman. A thor vs Eddie rivalry for 5 more years would've been truly epic.
Strongman messed up by not offering them the kind of money they needed to justify staying in the sport.
Bill Kazmaier vs Brian Shaw would be interesting. I know the different eras are hard to match against each other
I think it's unfair for Kaz. For his time he was way ahead of the competition but nowadays, the sport has evolved so much.
Idea for a new miniseries, maybe:
Best ever at certain events comparison. Pick an event (like Truck Pull, Stones, Yoke, etc) and compare different results over time (maybe some for reps, timed world records, heaviest weights, stuff like that). Might get a bit convoluted once you look at more than just world records (which by itself would make for a short video, haha) but could be really interesting.
Thanks Tobias
Its quite clear that Eddie was unmatched in static lifts but his height was a massive disadvantage in dynamic events.
Eddie should have honestly become a powerlifter. With his insane pressing strength, deadlift and squat, powerlifting would have been more fitting
Agree. He never had stamina, even when was way smaller he lacked the stamina
But someone told him he couldn't be a strongman and he proved him wrong. Also i agree with you 100%. I saw a clip of Eddie where he was very young(22 yo) and very small and he bench pressed like 260kg i guess with no arch and no leg drive.
@@RamanSingh-zr7pk he did a 265x5 paused bench press. Literally one of the strongest lifts ever. Lets say he could have done 300kg bench, 440 squat and 460 deadlift in his prime under powerlifting rules. Thats a 1200kg total
@@Bavarian_Lifting yeah i also believe he could do 700lbs. He himself used to believe it. He even started a series for Road to 700lbs bench. So in comp he could do 300kg i guess.
My subjective opinion is that Eddie is a loudmouth and his pre-workout is a joke, especially since apparently he put hundreds of hours into developing it 😂 no, no he didn't.
Eddie deadlifted 500 KG
Hafthor deadlifted 501 KG
Hafthor is the strongest
Joke of the century
1 kg difference 😂
I cannot stand eddie anymore! His attitude and ego is through the roof. By the way he’s 6”1 ive met him
The way I look at it it's only truly accurate if they're both at their peak
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Thor is overall clearly stronger because he is better at so many strength events . Human body has 600 muscles and using 3 static lifts ( squat , deadlift , overhead/bench ) as measurement of someone strength is stupid .
Powerstairs requires extreme fuctional strength and I would use them as better measurement of strength than for example bench press .
Dynamic events , static events , throwing things , pulling things , grip exercises all of those are indicators of persons strength and should all be taken into account when deciding who is overall stronger.
Thats what makes strongman competitions so great they really show us how strong someone truly is. " He is stronger in static events " is just poor excuse fans throw when fighting each other .
Eddie was a bit better at static strength (not by a large margin), but being good at static strength exclusively doesn't make you a great strongman. Hafthor was just shy of being as good as Eddie when it comes to static strength but much better at everything else, making him a much better strongman. Eddie's strength was something else, but as a strongman, I have to say he is overrated, thanks to his big mouth.
I think all things considered Eddie had to kill himself to get that strong. Hafthor is a more natural freak of nature. But nonetheless at each of their peaks they are about equal
I have been analyzing by my way that both strongmen are the reference point of how far a human being can be, that's to say, if you wonder how strong a human being, Eddie and Thor can answer that doubt. They showed us the limit of how strong is possible to be.
Excellent video. You have improved a lot your method to analyze these kind of stuff.
the thing is eddie maxed out his potential and put himself in a very dangrous position bcz of his bodyweight in ratio to his height and frame... hafthor on the other hand had so much more potential left in strongman or tbh we saw his peak in his form of 2018 and this was impressiv but he could have gone strong for the next 5 years easily. But on the other hand its fine bcz also for him its healthy to go down with weight and do stuff like boxing were he also gets paid far better. Both athlets have nothing more to proof in the world of strength.
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can you do brian shaw vs hafthor they are both giants and id love to see it?
It's a pity this is just 'head to head' as Thor's strength in deadlifting and squatting increased dramatically in later years, his 2018 domination and easy 501kg deadlift are proof of that. In deadlift and bag over bar no one could beat him. He was also close to unbeatable in atlas stones.
The video was Part 1 which looks at their competitive history. Part 2 which I realised immediately after this video looks at the static strength.
Eddie held the deadlift for longer, in competition, broke the previous record by 37 kg and broke the barrier.
Hafthor's "record" is very uneven in comparison.
I‘d like to see a comparison with Lasha Talakhadze
In my opinion, on their best day, these are the 2 strongest people in modern history
Eddie's best day wouldn't come close to big z or Brian's best days eddie is overrated took him to nearly die to win his wsm and the deadlift as he was super unhealthy the true greats havent had to push to that limit to achieve more and compete for longer
@@rob2406. i don't have the time or piece of mind, but i have done extensive inquiry and i stand by my syatement. You could go back and look at the old video od his best gym lifts. Actually he has made a few bwtter lifts than the ones in the video, but they are impressive. Especially the deadlift pyramid that is unapproachable
Eddie retiring after only five years shows that Hafthor was a better strongman in terms of durability. He wasn't taxing his body nearly as much. Plus, in ten years of competitions, Hafthor won more than twice as many titles. The static events favored Eddie slightly, while the dynamic events favored Hafthor dramatically. And, as we learned this year with The Stoltman brothers leaked phone call, WSM places favored athletes in easier or more difficult categories based on who WSM wants to win. Giants Live and WSM are intertwined, and when The Stoltmans agreed to accept a (pitiful) retainer in agreement for competing in Giants Live events, it won them them the right to be placed in easy categories at WSM. Eddie was the fortunate son chosen by the brass and coddled along the way. Hafthor wins all day!
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