He also completely changed people’s perception on what was physically possible in terms of max deadlift. Very few people believed that he could do it and gave him a lot of sh*t about it. Afterwards, no one was challenging Eddie’s capabilities and everyone now knew that 500kg was possible.
Some people doubted Jon Pall Sigmarsson's refereeing of the 501 kg deadlift by Thor, but considering Jon has been dead for 30 years I would say he did a pretty good job for his personal situation.
Just to note this, a lot of sumo pullers have shot up in PRs recently cause the kabuki bar has started being used in more competitions. It's a much more whippier bar which provides an even better leverage. Also using a combination of a bendy bar, sumo and straps (which allows a grip width that wouldn't be used raw) gives an even larger bend and even larger biomechanical advantage.
I still considers Eddie's to be the most impressive. The same as people talk about Roger Banister whenever talking about the fastest mile run because he was the insane man to do it first when no one else thought it was possible. Also with the sumo vs conventional debate, they say there's not much different but they still pull sumo... Like the deadlift suit, they say it doesn't make a difference but they still use it.
They who? The heaviest deadlifts are still conventional. On a broader scale most WRs are also still conventional. Sumo isn't easier, it's easier for some very specific athletes. The RoM argument misses a very obvious point. We're not moving in a 2d world. The amount of hip external rotation required to perform an actual sumo deadlift instead of "conventional pull in a sumo stance" is very noticeable for anyone who tries it. Same consideration about the hip greater hip abduction requirement when you're in the end range of your hip external rotation. There's less vertical movement but there's a lot more moving transversally.
@@kblkbl It's just that the numbers that surround sumo don't make any sense?? How are they comparable when it allows men literally half the size of others to be pulling the same numbers? Has the human race evolved passed weight effecting our performance? And if so then why does Jamal Browner or Cailer Woolam or insert any other top sumo puller fall horribly short on just about every other strength event when compared to a prime Hafthor or Eddie?
As far as I know Eddie actually used his own bar. It also seems the deadlift championships were very much organized around him that year and he was allowed to take whatever amount of rest he desired. Given that I think the circumstances were comparable to Thor's 500 (Thor still had to prep for and perform on a specific day). That being said, Eddie deserves a lot of credit for being the one to break the barrier.
The rest was more determined by the event / livestream, I think, which, yes, was set up for Hall. Two bars were made, Hall trained with one and on the night the other one was used. Hall got the same rest as everyone else. (Jerry Pritchet claimed that he personally "had to wait 45 minutes", when in fact the longest he had to wait was 29 minutes.). In spite of all that, I still think calling it "in competition" (as opposed to Thor's lift) is a bit silly.
@@BuJammy agreed. If Thor had gone for 505 or more i would give it to him but otherwise Eddie still is more impressive. Once we see it suitless in a powerlifting comp that'll be the day:)
Eddie’s Deadlift will always be cemented as the best ever. The lengths at which he went to in his mind and body were insane, and to think like this, imagine going for your heaviest deadlift yet and then right before you pull put 40lbs a side. You simply could not unless you were in that dark place he went to. Absolute insanity.
About the suit part. I know its a different bar but the elephant bar pulls are suitless and Thor hit a very comfy 474 kg deadlift and had a good crack at 501. This was before his deadlift peak. I agree that most Strongmen are used to suits but its nothing a 12 week suitless prep couldnt fix. Edit: The judge is Magnus ver Magnusson not JPS.
The thing about every strongman using a suit didn't used to be true. Brian Shaw, who had the deadlift WR for a while didn't wear suits because they didn't help and were generally unhelpful for him.
The biggest difference to me, Hall held it at the top for a full 10 seconds. Thor got to 3, the two sumos went to around 3 also. Sumo seems like the wide-arm version of pushups.
You are wrong about strongmen not moving to raw. Thor has done raw deadlifts without issues, Hicks have taken part in raw powerlifting competitions and there are many others. They use suits when they are allowed in their upcoming competitions. The elephant bar deadlift at the Arnold's are without suits.
You can definitely do it, people have done it and we wrote them with this in mind but as with all things you would potentially get more out of each if you ran them one at a time.
Tbf, the English language doesn't differentiate between kinds of tears when it comes to severity. I've had one (minor) tear (hamstring) in my life and that healed within 1-2 weeks.
I think 20 kilos may be a good rule of thumb for how much you get out of a deadlift suit. It fits what little I've seen for the heavy guys as far as comparisons go and it's the same number I got out of suits myself. It's also what I see my fellow lightweights get out of theirs, roughly. Interestingly enough, a super tight suit ain't better either, it just kills your positioning. The straps are a much bigger deal though. By far. Seems like around 390-410 kilos, a lot of the fatties (I use that word lovingly) just lose their grip (with very rare exceptions).
When i was PL in 1990 / 2000 decade , graal was 450 in IPF rules or similar no straps 29mm axle Bolton or Magnusson ( 420 was really monstruous. Even in Strongman Rules,. . 400 more than a decent bar in boh rules) now majority break 400. Even over 55 yo Felix ( my idol) .
I disagree on the part about strongmen and suits. Many strongman contest do NOT allow suits of any kind, like the Arnold Classic or the Shaw Classic. When athletes do the elephant bar deadlift or the hummer tire deadlift they have to go raw, a belt is all they're allowed. In fact, last year they included a squat for the very first time at the Arnold and they allowed squat suits, which was a very controversial decision. But for every other event, like frame carries, yoke carries, clean and press, stone lifting, etc. they do not weak any type of suit.
Until somebody breaks it, the biggest deadlift of all time is Benedikt Magnússon's 460kg (1015 pounds). The 500kg+ record is equipped, the same as multiply powerlifting.
To give you an idea though, benedikt didn't come close to breaking the 500kg barrier. While I agree equipped is pretty poor standards when it comes to records, I think a handful of people have surpassed Magnus already.
@@ardeof Benedikt was in his prime in 2005, I watched him in Helsinki. You’re talking a good few years later. Pulling with straps is a totally different lift, you can’t dry hump the bar to lockout so much. He spent his entire career devoted to pulling raw, then later on the decline used straps.
As for 15:30, I would say it’s like the squat jerk versus the split jerk versus the power jerk. For those who can perform it effectively, it is most effective way to win the game.
Eddie definitely would have died if he'd kept going as he was. He was very smart to get out when he did. Thor's "in competition" is fine for me. It was o ersaw by WUS, plates and bar were weighed on the stream, and Magnus Ver Magnusson (not Jon Pall, may be RIP!) is a very impartial referee. It was during the height of covid lockdown and Thor could waste such a massive peak. Eddie is long known as the Giant's Live golden boy, the comp was ran more or less specifically for him. I think either Jerry Pritchett of Benni Magnusson (the other two to attempt 500kg) said they were definitely treated as second fiddle and the comp timings were done to suit Eddie as much as possible. Long winded way of saying I think the comp standards were actually pretty close between both. Dan Grigsby may do it raw in a powerlifitng comp soon enough.
Yes, it was created for Hall, because he said 10 months before that, if the money was right, they should set up an event, and he would pull 500k. Pritchett said he and Benni were kept waiting ''for 45 mins between lifts'', when, in fact, the longest he waited was 29 mins (the average wait was around 25 mins for everyone). Either he is mistaken, or there's some sour grapes there. I think the Thor lift was more than good enough in terms of standards, but the fact that Hall leapt the record so much higher than it was, and nearly killed himself to do it, is what makes it the best for me.
15:00 Comparing it to their bench or squat doesn't tell you much. They may just be built to deadlift. I knew someone like that. He did 322.5 at 86-ish bw sumo in training but his squat was at 245 and his bench only at 142.5. And he wasn't even better sumo, dude was stronger conventional but hurt his back, so had to make the switch. Just built to deadlift. Same height seated as a squatty mutual friend who is 13 cm shorter. Wingspan 15 cm in excess of his height, too. Some people are built like that.
Krzysztof is the only one of those who was ever competing tested. He surely isn't drug free, but maybe he has taken less overall, than the others. He's also the lightest and his lifted weight is the highest. So I say he's most impressive. Jamal might still lift more in the future, he has huge potential and he's good at other movements as well. With that said, I do think that deadlift and sumo are different exercises.
It's been done successfully and we wrote them with this in mind that people would run them together, that said if you really want to maximise one of the lifts then one at a time would work slightly better.
I think you're a bit wrong with the squats and the suits. Strongmen seem to train mainly raw, but when it comes to the performance and event they wear the suits. Eddie for example squatted 345kg for 7 reps basically raw (with the exception of a knee wrap? brace? Whatever it is so you don't pop your ligaments basically lol).
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 he's gotten more strategic closer to present day but check out his squats from back in the IPF (where he also did break records)
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 I think he goes deep for a powerlifter in some meets even recently, it's depends on the judges. Keep in mind also that with sufficient forward knee travel (due to weightlifting shoes) and with short and chubby enough femurs, a squat can be atg and still barely powerlifting legal. Eoins squats are a good example of this I think
Personally would say Jamal. Huge respect for all 4 but the strongmen were wearing briefs and we're almost twice the bw of the PLs. We know these variables do make a considerable difference. Pulling 500/+ raw at ~100kg bw is more impressive imo. They're all insane though :)
Your deadlift program says it's the Stallworth of strength movements. Do you mean stalwart? Not trying to be a dick, maybe I'm missing something. Edit: also, love the subtle "maybe it's the price they *should* pay"
Several strongmen have pulled north of 450 kg at the Arnold classic without a suit. I'm not sure your claim about strongmen not knowing how to pull raw is correct.
Plus it would have made him looks like less of a B. As it stands its pretty known he did +1kg simply because he holds a grudge against Eddie. Which is just a bad look.Aside from the whole thing about being in his home gym. 510 I think might have actually won him respect. Well more widespread anyway. Because we all know Eddie could just as well have done 501; so it doesn't really prove much.
@@sikastrength tbh, I've been wondering about fat guys and sumo myself. Bc some are exceptions to the rule and I wonder why (I'm thinking Rauno Heinla in particular, who is stronger sumo).
Thor standing back from the bar psyching himself up is the pinnacle of human physical something something.! I challenge you to find anyone with a more impressive physique.
for guys [powerlifters anyways] that wear suits, look at matt wenning and blaine sumner. those guys trained with gear for years before going raw again, and true strong savages they are.
Idk why more people don’t bring up the fact that Eddie used two epi pens and some lines of coke before the lift. Literally the reason he almost went into SVT after. So stupid.
@@MellonVegan I mean when everyone in the warm up room at the comp and behind the scenes is saying it and nobody that was there is saying it didn’t happen then it probably happened. Tbh idk if I could ever find the videos again from first person accounts of athletes and volunteers at the comp saying it happened because most of them were said in passing in like tiktok videos and shit. Like I first heard about it like 2 years ago and don’t even remember what video it was that brought it up
you guys have surprisingly little knowledge of the great feats of strenghts 🤦♂ maybe do your homework before you film these videos? (wierzbicki, eddies body weight, magnus ver magnusson etc.)
All of the 3 big lifts were done as one offs. Eddie hall had his own fucking bar and decided the weight jumps and rest periods. His pretending to pass out after it was IMO fake and his long drawn out speech to delay the next competitors who waited over 30mins from their 465 lifts. Even the fact it was held 20mins from his house makes a difference. Thors was his own gym, most of the same for Eddie applied. Bennis 460kg was a one off event and apparently he wanted 480kg but they didn’t get it on the bar. Supposedly he did 460kg in the warm up room. But at least it wasn’t his own bar like the other two had and he had to travel across the Atlantic to do it.
For sumo its another game ! If a man do 500kg 1100lbs in Sumo .... for valid him like a great athlete i discharge my self bar of 100kg (220 pounds) .... and i ask him to do a traditional DL with 880lbs (400kg) .... if he can do it HE IS A REAL SPORTMAN EVEN IF HIS TECHNIC FOR 25 LAST PERCENT IS NOT MINE...... BUT IF HE CANNOT PAST KNEES ...STAND UP AND LOCK BAR ON HIS BALLS AT 400KG , HIS 500 ARE JUST BARNUM TECH... A TRICK FOR LOOK STRONG ... its like you ask me my squats data for 2022 and i give you datae... of my Calfs extension or leg press machine exercises. You cannot evaluate my thigs strenght correctly.. when i see a Sumo DL ...i cannot perceive knees passing..sorry... its my feeling.
Imagine Eddie or Thor slimming down 100kg, half their peak bodyweights. Allowing them to pull sumo, no deadlift suit, then comparing their deads to Krystoff. It's a different league, they would be nowhere near.
Eddie can be a prick but he was and always will be the pioneer. There was something kind of pathetic about Thor pulling 501kg several years later in his little incubator of sycophancy. He'd have done 500.001 just to spite Eddie if he could.
Sumo is not valid for me. A pure Heresy. Deadlift bar.27mm . Elephant bar etc rtc for me is not a problem even i i prefer see use a 29 powerbar STRAPS IS NOW BEST METHOD FOR AVOID BICEPS INJURIES... but on a 29mm bar please . For comparison with me and my entourage . How can do Hall on a 29 rigid bar ???? 480 ?? Less ??
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Hall's was the biggest jump from one record to the next, by almost 35 kilos. In that sense, it's the most impressive.
37kg actually.
He also completely changed people’s perception on what was physically possible in terms of max deadlift. Very few people believed that he could do it and gave him a lot of sh*t about it. Afterwards, no one was challenging Eddie’s capabilities and everyone now knew that 500kg was possible.
Some people doubted Jon Pall Sigmarsson's refereeing of the 501 kg deadlift by Thor, but considering Jon has been dead for 30 years I would say he did a pretty good job for his personal situation.
My 503 deadlift should’ve been on here but i left my camera at home when I did it
Just to note this, a lot of sumo pullers have shot up in PRs recently cause the kabuki bar has started being used in more competitions. It's a much more whippier bar which provides an even better leverage. Also using a combination of a bendy bar, sumo and straps (which allows a grip width that wouldn't be used raw) gives an even larger bend and even larger biomechanical advantage.
I still considers Eddie's to be the most impressive. The same as people talk about Roger Banister whenever talking about the fastest mile run because he was the insane man to do it first when no one else thought it was possible.
Also with the sumo vs conventional debate, they say there's not much different but they still pull sumo... Like the deadlift suit, they say it doesn't make a difference but they still use it.
They who? The heaviest deadlifts are still conventional. On a broader scale most WRs are also still conventional. Sumo isn't easier, it's easier for some very specific athletes.
The RoM argument misses a very obvious point. We're not moving in a 2d world. The amount of hip external rotation required to perform an actual sumo deadlift instead of "conventional pull in a sumo stance" is very noticeable for anyone who tries it. Same consideration about the hip greater hip abduction requirement when you're in the end range of your hip external rotation. There's less vertical movement but there's a lot more moving transversally.
@@kblkbl It's just that the numbers that surround sumo don't make any sense?? How are they comparable when it allows men literally half the size of others to be pulling the same numbers? Has the human race evolved passed weight effecting our performance? And if so then why does Jamal Browner or Cailer Woolam or insert any other top sumo puller fall horribly short on just about every other strength event when compared to a prime Hafthor or Eddie?
As far as I know Eddie actually used his own bar. It also seems the deadlift championships were very much organized around him that year and he was allowed to take whatever amount of rest he desired. Given that I think the circumstances were comparable to Thor's 500 (Thor still had to prep for and perform on a specific day). That being said, Eddie deserves a lot of credit for being the one to break the barrier.
The rest was more determined by the event / livestream, I think, which, yes, was set up for Hall. Two bars were made, Hall trained with one and on the night the other one was used. Hall got the same rest as everyone else. (Jerry Pritchet claimed that he personally "had to wait 45 minutes", when in fact the longest he had to wait was 29 minutes.). In spite of all that, I still think calling it "in competition" (as opposed to Thor's lift) is a bit silly.
@@BuJammy agreed. If Thor had gone for 505 or more i would give it to him but otherwise Eddie still is more impressive. Once we see it suitless in a powerlifting comp that'll be the day:)
@@BuJammy yes, Darren Sadler (Giants Live organiser) had it made, and every competitor used it.
@@0Arman0 conventional unfortunately is dying in powerlifting so if we do it’ll be a cock length Rom sumo deadlift
@@crycrcfyhf8862 I'm still at it 💪
Eddie’s Deadlift will always be cemented as the best ever. The lengths at which he went to in his mind and body were insane, and to think like this, imagine going for your heaviest deadlift yet and then right before you pull put 40lbs a side. You simply could not unless you were in that dark place he went to. Absolute insanity.
Eddie trained without anything when working for that 500kg until final prep for it when he was fine tuning. Not even a belt.
9:23 - amazing mental picture of Thor with a deadlift ROM of 6.6 metres. That would be some deficit! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
About the suit part. I know its a different bar but the elephant bar pulls are suitless and Thor hit a very comfy 474 kg deadlift and had a good crack at 501. This was before his deadlift peak.
I agree that most Strongmen are used to suits but its nothing a 12 week suitless prep couldnt fix.
Edit: The judge is Magnus ver Magnusson not JPS.
I'm sure that, somewhere, JPS was watching.
💀 RIP, there’s no reason to be alive if you can’t do deadlift
@@Jmack7861 Amen
The thing about every strongman using a suit didn't used to be true. Brian Shaw, who had the deadlift WR for a while didn't wear suits because they didn't help and were generally unhelpful for him.
The deadlift at the Arnold Classic is with out a Suit (I think Thor pulled 475 ? ... one time maybe 2018 he tried 500 there to)
@Eric E that was with a suit
The biggest difference to me, Hall held it at the top for a full 10 seconds. Thor got to 3, the two sumos went to around 3 also. Sumo seems like the wide-arm version of pushups.
The time you hold the bar does not give extra points, except for those who do not know
You are wrong about strongmen not moving to raw. Thor has done raw deadlifts without issues, Hicks have taken part in raw powerlifting competitions and there are many others. They use suits when they are allowed in their upcoming competitions. The elephant bar deadlift at the Arnold's are without suits.
I'm guessing it wouldn't be wise to do the Sika Deadlift and Squat program together right?
You can definitely do it, people have done it and we wrote them with this in mind but as with all things you would potentially get more out of each if you ran them one at a time.
thor also said he had a lat tear during his prep (his coach Sebastien Oreb said it actually), he pulled 501 with a tear
Thor also posted about it when it happened.
Tbf, the English language doesn't differentiate between kinds of tears when it comes to severity. I've had one (minor) tear (hamstring) in my life and that healed within 1-2 weeks.
Judged by Jon Pall Sigmarsson... bruh! 😐
Judged from the grave 😂… Magnus judged didn’t he?
I think 20 kilos may be a good rule of thumb for how much you get out of a deadlift suit. It fits what little I've seen for the heavy guys as far as comparisons go and it's the same number I got out of suits myself. It's also what I see my fellow lightweights get out of theirs, roughly. Interestingly enough, a super tight suit ain't better either, it just kills your positioning.
The straps are a much bigger deal though. By far. Seems like around 390-410 kilos, a lot of the fatties (I use that word lovingly) just lose their grip (with very rare exceptions).
Heaviest raw DL i believe (no suit, straps, belt etc.) is about 480kg but i can't think of the guys names
487,5 by danny grigsby
When i was PL in 1990 / 2000 decade , graal was 450 in IPF rules or similar no straps 29mm axle Bolton or Magnusson ( 420 was really monstruous. Even in Strongman Rules,. . 400 more than a decent bar in boh rules) now majority break 400. Even over 55 yo Felix ( my idol) .
I disagree on the part about strongmen and suits. Many strongman contest do NOT allow suits of any kind, like the Arnold Classic or the Shaw Classic. When athletes do the elephant bar deadlift or the hummer tire deadlift they have to go raw, a belt is all they're allowed.
In fact, last year they included a squat for the very first time at the Arnold and they allowed squat suits, which was a very controversial decision.
But for every other event, like frame carries, yoke carries, clean and press, stone lifting, etc. they do not weak any type of suit.
Until somebody breaks it, the biggest deadlift of all time is Benedikt Magnússon's 460kg (1015 pounds). The 500kg+ record is equipped, the same as multiply powerlifting.
To give you an idea though, benedikt didn't come close to breaking the 500kg barrier. While I agree equipped is pretty poor standards when it comes to records, I think a handful of people have surpassed Magnus already.
@@ardeof Benedikt was in his prime in 2005, I watched him in Helsinki. You’re talking a good few years later. Pulling with straps is a totally different lift, you can’t dry hump the bar to lockout so much. He spent his entire career devoted to pulling raw, then later on the decline used straps.
As for 15:30, I would say it’s like the squat jerk versus the split jerk versus the power jerk. For those who can perform it effectively, it is most effective way to win the game.
Eddie definitely would have died if he'd kept going as he was. He was very smart to get out when he did.
Thor's "in competition" is fine for me. It was o ersaw by WUS, plates and bar were weighed on the stream, and Magnus Ver Magnusson (not Jon Pall, may be RIP!) is a very impartial referee. It was during the height of covid lockdown and Thor could waste such a massive peak. Eddie is long known as the Giant's Live golden boy, the comp was ran more or less specifically for him. I think either Jerry Pritchett of Benni Magnusson (the other two to attempt 500kg) said they were definitely treated as second fiddle and the comp timings were done to suit Eddie as much as possible. Long winded way of saying I think the comp standards were actually pretty close between both.
Dan Grigsby may do it raw in a powerlifitng comp soon enough.
Yes, it was created for Hall, because he said 10 months before that, if the money was right, they should set up an event, and he would pull 500k. Pritchett said he and Benni were kept waiting ''for 45 mins between lifts'', when, in fact, the longest he waited was 29 mins (the average wait was around 25 mins for everyone). Either he is mistaken, or there's some sour grapes there. I think the Thor lift was more than good enough in terms of standards, but the fact that Hall leapt the record so much higher than it was, and nearly killed himself to do it, is what makes it the best for me.
15:00 Comparing it to their bench or squat doesn't tell you much. They may just be built to deadlift. I knew someone like that. He did 322.5 at 86-ish bw sumo in training but his squat was at 245 and his bench only at 142.5. And he wasn't even better sumo, dude was stronger conventional but hurt his back, so had to make the switch. Just built to deadlift. Same height seated as a squatty mutual friend who is 13 cm shorter. Wingspan 15 cm in excess of his height, too. Some people are built like that.
Eddie was well-rounded though. Insane bench and squat.
Krzysztof is the only one of those who was ever competing tested. He surely isn't drug free, but maybe he has taken less overall, than the others. He's also the lightest and his lifted weight is the highest. So I say he's most impressive. Jamal might still lift more in the future, he has huge potential and he's good at other movements as well. With that said, I do think that deadlift and sumo are different exercises.
Can you run this concurrently with RTA? Or is that too much to do in one training cycle?
It's been done successfully and we wrote them with this in mind that people would run them together, that said if you really want to maximise one of the lifts then one at a time would work slightly better.
People keep saying home gym but it really isn't. It's a public gym that he owns. Technicality but still.
Ksheeshtoff Vierzbitsky
vyeeshbitsky :)
@@Pi03k ah damn, i missed the rz sound. Let's see if they can get it on the next video
I think you're a bit wrong with the squats and the suits. Strongmen seem to train mainly raw, but when it comes to the performance and event they wear the suits. Eddie for example squatted 345kg for 7 reps basically raw (with the exception of a knee wrap? brace? Whatever it is so you don't pop your ligaments basically lol).
Jon Pall Sigmarsson died many years ago, unfortunately
15:30 I mean John Haack is close, both in terms of his depth and the weights. Sure, it's not ATG but pretty close, and definitely high bar.
Not even close to ATG. His depth by powerlifting standards is questionable sometimes
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 he's gotten more strategic closer to present day but check out his squats from back in the IPF (where he also did break records)
You said is close, not was close so i assumed you were talking about today
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 I think he goes deep for a powerlifter in some meets even recently, it's depends on the judges. Keep in mind also that with sufficient forward knee travel (due to weightlifting shoes) and with short and chubby enough femurs, a squat can be atg and still barely powerlifting legal. Eoins squats are a good example of this I think
Personally would say Jamal. Huge respect for all 4 but the strongmen were wearing briefs and we're almost twice the bw of the PLs. We know these variables do make a considerable difference. Pulling 500/+ raw at ~100kg bw is more impressive imo. They're all insane though :)
John Hack on high Bar?
You didn't include elephant bar deadlifts
On the day Eddie deadlifted 500 he was around 196kg i do believe (he claims)
Jon Pall Sig is way dead, Magnus Ver Magnusson was the ref for Thor's lift btw
Has anybody told Eoin (unit on the left) that he sounds exactly like Terry Wogan?
No, cos he doesn't
@@hdhdu7634 fake news
Your deadlift program says it's the Stallworth of strength movements. Do you mean stalwart? Not trying to be a dick, maybe I'm missing something.
Edit: also, love the subtle "maybe it's the price they *should* pay"
Several strongmen have pulled north of 450 kg at the Arnold classic without a suit. I'm not sure your claim about strongmen not knowing how to pull raw is correct.
I believe Hafthor had 510 kg in him that day. If he pulled 510, his record would probably stand forever, since I’m sure someone will get 505.
Plus it would have made him looks like less of a B. As it stands its pretty known he did +1kg simply because he holds a grudge against Eddie. Which is just a bad look.Aside from the whole thing about being in his home gym. 510 I think might have actually won him respect. Well more widespread anyway. Because we all know Eddie could just as well have done 501; so it doesn't really prove much.
The IPF won't change sumo bc it's not an issue on a stiff bar.
all the deadlift records for the male weightclasses are done sumo except for the supers
I think there's a video opportunity there. 'Why fat guys can't sumo'.
On a serious note that's an interesting observation
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 wasn't the ratio 60/40 or so for sumo winners vs conventional winners? Jeff Nippard cited some statistic like that
@@sikastrength tbh, I've been wondering about fat guys and sumo myself. Bc some are exceptions to the rule and I wonder why (I'm thinking Rauno Heinla in particular, who is stronger sumo).
Anything coming near 500kg conventional is almost humanly impossible, sumo is a special case tho.
The "Neil" Armstrong thing had me cracking up🤣 sure you can deadlift, but can you walk on the moon?
Michael Jackson: "YEEEEEE"
On a scale of 1 to tren, how strong is Eddie hall
Definitely several CCs per week.
Eddies for sure
Thor standing back from the bar psyching himself up is the pinnacle of human physical something something.! I challenge you to find anyone with a more impressive physique.
@Eric E nah, Thor is taller
Maybe we *should* be looking at absolute bar travel distance if Thor pulled his deadlift 6.6m.
No, he did not. Lmfao.
@@ardeof 😂
for guys [powerlifters anyways] that wear suits, look at matt wenning and blaine sumner. those guys trained with gear for years before going raw again, and true strong savages they are.
Idk why more people don’t bring up the fact that Eddie used two epi pens and some lines of coke before the lift. Literally the reason he almost went into SVT after. So stupid.
You are fishing with a statement like that hahahaha
lmao what
@@a-a-rondavis9438 yeah
Do you have a source for that? Not that I couldn't imagine it, it's just quite the claim.
@@MellonVegan I mean when everyone in the warm up room at the comp and behind the scenes is saying it and nobody that was there is saying it didn’t happen then it probably happened. Tbh idk if I could ever find the videos again from first person accounts of athletes and volunteers at the comp saying it happened because most of them were said in passing in like tiktok videos and shit.
Like I first heard about it like 2 years ago and don’t even remember what video it was that brought it up
you guys have surprisingly little knowledge of the great feats of strenghts 🤦♂ maybe do your homework before you film these videos? (wierzbicki, eddies body weight, magnus ver magnusson etc.)
I'm pretty sure Thor was ~230 kg when he broke the deadlift WR.
No way he was ever that heavy
He was around 205 kg
Thor said he was 208 kg when he deadlifted the 501.
I also remember it being 203 or 208. That was also his heaviest bw ever, to my knowledge.
Just as I thought, no elevated deadlifts, although the title said all 500kg+ deadlifts...
All of the 3 big lifts were done as one offs. Eddie hall had his own fucking bar and decided the weight jumps and rest periods. His pretending to pass out after it was IMO fake and his long drawn out speech to delay the next competitors who waited over 30mins from their 465 lifts. Even the fact it was held 20mins from his house makes a difference.
Thors was his own gym, most of the same for Eddie applied.
Bennis 460kg was a one off event and apparently he wanted 480kg but they didn’t get it on the bar. Supposedly he did 460kg in the warm up room. But at least it wasn’t his own bar like the other two had and he had to travel across the Atlantic to do it.
For sumo its another game ! If a man do 500kg 1100lbs in Sumo .... for valid him like a great athlete i discharge my self bar of 100kg (220 pounds) .... and i ask him to do a traditional DL with 880lbs (400kg) .... if he can do it HE IS A REAL SPORTMAN EVEN IF HIS TECHNIC FOR 25 LAST PERCENT IS NOT MINE...... BUT IF HE CANNOT PAST KNEES ...STAND UP AND LOCK BAR ON HIS BALLS AT 400KG , HIS 500 ARE JUST BARNUM TECH... A TRICK FOR LOOK STRONG ... its like you ask me my squats data for 2022 and i give you datae... of my Calfs extension or leg press machine exercises. You cannot evaluate my thigs strenght correctly.. when i see a Sumo DL ...i cannot perceive knees passing..sorry... its my feeling.
Imagine Eddie or Thor slimming down 100kg, half their peak bodyweights. Allowing them to pull sumo, no deadlift suit, then comparing their deads to Krystoff. It's a different league, they would be nowhere near.
Ban the sumo and add the weighted chin up to the powerlifting comps.
Eddie can be a prick but he was and always will be the pioneer. There was something kind of pathetic about Thor pulling 501kg several years later in his little incubator of sycophancy. He'd have done 500.001 just to spite Eddie if he could.
Eddie himself broke the record by just a kilo or a few, several times. Breaking records by a kilo is the norm, not the exception.
don't see it as one kg more, see it as 501 fucking kilogrammes
Sumo is not valid for me. A pure Heresy. Deadlift bar.27mm . Elephant bar etc rtc for me is not a problem even i i prefer see use a 29 powerbar STRAPS IS NOW BEST METHOD FOR AVOID BICEPS INJURIES... but on a 29mm bar please . For comparison with me and my entourage . How can do Hall on a 29 rigid bar ???? 480 ?? Less ??
He did 480 on an axle in wsm. Much stiffer than even a 29 mm bar
them fellas are full natty bra what you on about