It's a great line, just for that. Plus the added nuance, even this early, he's figured out who the establishment is. And is already stealing components to use later to combat them. Hint after hint that he was looking out for Miles and Gwen the whole time. Gwen's his friend, and he knows how much she cares about Miles, so by extension he's still "looking out for his drummer". Give credit to the writers, they put a lot into this.
I love that Miguel let’s Mayday play and crawl around him. And knowing that he doesn’t actually have spidey senses shows that he’s explicitly focusing on her when he catches her. It’s a small, but cute moment
Reminds me of this cute fanart Peter is making funny faces but Mayday isn't responding, then Miguel passes by them and makes funny faces himself, Mayday loves it and then Peter turns around catching Miguel red handed 😂
That look on Miles face when he sees Peter B. Parker was so wholesome. Like a little brother finally seeing his older brother for the first time after so many years.
Just call him Peter Parker 🤷 they only put the B there to differentiate him from Miles' Peter, which is the alternate. THIS Peter is the original. 🤓 Edit: ik the B stands for Benjamin/ his middle name, ijs 🙄 lol
@@jderrickson4597 primero que nada no es el oroginal de los comics el hace referencia a ese peter pero fuera de eso este es una variante de peter parker como el del peter rubio asi que no lo llames suplente son distitnas versiones
@perrodurmiendo4601 peter b parker is from earth 616b so its a parrallel (almost the exact same) version of the comic spiderman. So give him some respect
It's really nice to see Peter happy and joyful. He's changed from depressed middle-aged Spider-man who get inspired in the of the previous movie to happy farther with adorable kid. It's so great
And Miles is the only reason he had the balls to improve his life. He fixed things up with MJ, had a child and is awesome now. So glad Miles and him reconciled before the 'take the leap of faith' scene.
💯 Hobie knew Miguel and the Spider Society would never accept Miles. That’s why he was hoping Gwen would’ve gotten the courage to tell Miles the truth about who he was in the eyes of the SS. Also, I suspect Hobie believed Gwen’s feelings for Miles were more one-sided… until he met Miles himself. And once Hobie saw how Miles literally went after Gwen as well as how he handled the Mumbattan incident, he realized Miles’ feelings were just as deep for Gwen and why Gwen thought so highly of him-which is presumably why Hobie decided he had to try to warn Miles. On top of that, as someone said on another video thread, Miles is walking proof that Miguel’s canon event theory is flawed-and Hobie probably realized that after all his conversations with Gwen. Which could be another reason Miguel knew to avoid conversations with Hobie-because Hobie saw right through him.
He knew prior to Gwen coming to 1616. Peter says "this isn't what we talked about" at the end, and Hobie says "Gwen, have you told him about his place in all this?" at the start of Spidey Society. They all had a conversation regarding Mile's dad's death being canon so Hobie knew what was up the entire time considering Peter B knows what Miguel's on about. He wasn't kidding when he said he was looking out for his little drummer, because he knows Miles will be the ultimate rebel to the cause.
"just dont enlist till you know what war your fighting." Hobie really did know things were gonna blow up fast and was looking out for miles from the second they met but also that quote really is good advice on its own.
It could be a coping thing. I think it has been proven that babies tend to have a positive impact on those who suffer from trauma or PTSD; Similar to the effects of emotional support animals
@@sadcrab69technically it is. Same blood, dna and everything. Just from a different universe. A different Miguel had her but still Miguel nonetheless.
This scene is especially great because it shows you just how hard Peter wants to play both sides. Here he calls Miles an adult ("I didn't know they made those for adults") but later on calls him kid. He doesn't know who he should side with and it shows in a lot of lesser moments like this. He comes in to break the tension (and it works, Miguel calms down and speaks more reasonably and empathetically with Miles). But when Miles rejects them he reluctantly joins the chase
@@Brasswatchman I think Peter was actually trying to give miles his his goober so he could escape. Especially since he was the only spider to legitimately catch miles but didn’t attempt to hold him in place.
@@willhicks7027He didn't attempt to hold him in place, but he *was* trying to convince Miles to let his event happen. My guess is that Peter understood that you can't "force" a canon event and that Miles should at least have the right to TRY and save his father. Peter likely did not know the watches all had trackers on them. Probably why Hobie took his own watch off and tossed it before returning to his own dimension, he likely figured that out.
Later in the movie when Gwen is recruiting other spider-people, there is a shot of Peter waking up from his nap with a book on his chest that reads something like: "How to get kids to listen" & "How to listen to kids". So it can be implied that the reason Peter calls Miles "kid" is because he's read up on parenting books about communication with children
I see why Peter B. Parker is my favorite character. He’s very happy, fun, reasonable and how he was the only Spider person who took Miles’ side when Miguel was chasing him because Peter is Miles’ mentor and he caught him because he wanted to speak to him.
I didn’t realize that Hobbie was lowkey trying to tell Miles to leave the spider society. He knew it wasn’t what everyone thought it was from the start
I agree with Hobie since Miguel’s true nature was revealed which was how his flawed methods of protecting the multiverse have gone too far and because of that Peter decided to leave the society because of how they treated Miles and how they wouldn’t let him reason with him.
0:19 This sums up Miguel’s entire character, outlook and actions in the movie perfectly. He doesn’t want to be a jerk, The Bad Guy. He means well, just sees the bigger picture in wanting to keep all the worlds alive. He understands situations like Miles’ is unfair, but Miguel’s traumatic experience with his daughter made him believe in practicality, not potential false hope. And that’s just Miguel’s problem, he has no Hope left in him. Next movie, I sincerely wish Miles finds a way to prove Miguel wrong by saving everyone without harming the Spiderverse
@@proboiboy7677but it’s not impossible either Telling Miles that his dad needs to die, because Miles is an anomaly is the dumbest thing ever, whoever decided that are no better than the villains…
@@kevenmonge1390if the multiverse collapses they ALL die. Miguel doesn't *want* to force Miles, he outright says "We all want to live the life we wish we had. Believe me, i have tried." He's not doing this because he likes it. He's projecting his own insecurities on Miles.
I love how the movie tricks you into thinking Hobie’s planning to turn on Miles only for him to be the only one on Miles side at this point of the movie
I like how Ed keeps on referring to what the person means for example at 0:45 he talks about what spider punk is saying and it really brings the comic vibe because in the comics they like to refer what the characters means
My favourite part about this scene how Miguel is completely and utterly tired of everyone's antics, but still lets Mayday crawl all over him without making a fuss and _immediately_ catches her when she falls, showing that he was paying close attention to what she was doing despite clearly being annoyed by it.
I love how Hobbie is legit just nicking small parts here and there while he's literally saying "Just build your own watch." Hobbie is literally doing just that!
I liked how Hobie is just taking parts to make his own time portal later to give it to Gwen since he knows it's gonna be a chaos after that and also at the same time convincing Miles to stop this "I want to join the spider team" nonsense since he already knew what's gonna happen next 🤩
I love how this movie basically gave Peter B. almost literal plot armor from the "mentor dying" cliche by giving him a baby that he has on him at all times.
3:01 I like how Miles's face lit up after hearing Peter B's voice. It happened to me too when I saw him in the trailers, what a way to meet again, and I was also very excited when I saw his baby Mayday aww.. I'm glad to see him happy again, now that he's formed his family Also, another thing I liked about the movie is how the 3 Spiders redesigned their costumes, right?
Man, Peter. When he popped up, it just hit me that I missed the guy so much. The OG will always be my favorite #1 hero. Also, can we get a Peter and Miguel film? The connection they have is pretty awesome and worth exploring as well.
@@spider-man500they should finish SpiderVerse and then make a Shattered Dimensions franchise with the same animation style. Less meta but exploring all the Spidey villains.
I am just cackling and loving how Miguel is the ONLY one that’s trying to be serious!! But he acts like these other spider folk are going to give him an aneurysm, i especially love his lack of patience with Hobie and Peter XD and it activates his Latin Blood LOL as a Hispanic this made me laugh so much when he said “no puedo mas, no…puedo…mas!” XD
Peter B has everything he’s wanted at this point, he’s got Miles as a little brother, he’s got MJ, he now has a daughter. I would say he’s winning but I genuinely think Insomniac Peter has it better. Miles and Peter live in the same city and dimension not just across 2
1:14 “We did it this time!” “Okay, okay, mija” I love when movies are in HD and you can hear other details you never noticed before! 😭💖 this little bit of dialogue between Miguel and his daughter is so cute yet sad! It’s torture
So satisfying to see that at least one version of Peter gets to be a husband and a dad without any kind of awful twist to undo it just to get back to the status quo
I like to think that when Miguel is slowly descending from his space he’s thinking of what approach to take with whatever Spider-Man or canon issue he’s about to deal with, knowing full well that he doesnt rlly like doing it, but also knowing that nobody else would want to either.
Man I just realized, Hobie was taking random shit off the walls and machines because he was building his own watch, he literally says “Make your own watch” too lmao.
First time Miles meets Miguel he says “¿que tál? which is the European Spanish way of saying “what’s up?” but Miguel is half-Mexican and their “what’s up?” is “¿que ondá?” So that’s all the reason he needed to throw a trash can at him Also, “tio” strictly means “uncle” but I heard it could also be translated to “dude” in certain Latin-American countries although so can “hombré”
Bro Hobie is the goat. Miles is (quite understandably) a bit jealous and annoyed, but from literally first sight Hobie sees a brother in him and looks out for him.
To all people that thought Peter B Parker was underused/butchered in this movie : The fact that PbP is so distant in this film is only to better show the independence of the hero. All mentors have to leave the protagonist to fend for themselves, no longer be useful, and have to disappear (not always literally). That's literally the same case as: Obi wan Kenobi, Yoda or even Gandalf. In the context of Spider-verse 2, Miles can't even trust him, because that's to be expected following the story arc of the 1st movie. Completely obsessed with his daughter (again it's totally normal when you watch the PbP from the beginning of the 1st Spider-verse, he had an impressive personal glow-up which he is proud of). But in the film, the mentors appreciate their apprentices, nevertheless they are corrupted by the institution of the Spider-society, to the point that instead of accompanying them in their transformation they just try to transform them into the shell of themselves , as obedient soldiers (same case between Jessica drew and Gwen). He remains completely obsessed with his own happiness despite the fact that he lets himself be walked on by the philosophy of Miguel o'hara. From a plot point, this shows the conflict of opinion and perspectives between Miles and Miguel, PbP giving up his freedom (in a certain way) because he doesn't need it and he's already very happy: That's exactly why he is so insistent on wanting Mayday and Miles to interact. In the dialogue, in the kind of factory, he doesn't even really listen to what Miles has to say and he even shouts to impose his opinion while showing that he is happy despite the fact that he has left himself corrupted by the Spider-society. He tries to convey the same idea to Miles : "Accept the tragedy of canon events and you can still be happy, just look at me and follow my example". It's not like he was a totally different character in this movie, the 1st film already shown he was kind of a defeatist person. Plus already completed his character arc ! Yet he learnt from his mistakes , we can liteally see him reading a book titled : "how to talk so kids will listen & and listen so kids will talk". Literally ALL the other mentors and parental figures learn this lesson, except Miguel O'hara that's why he's the antagonist.
I disagree. PBP, Spider Gwen and Miles became a Team.. Now, it's disbanded, broken up.... Miguel, obviously, hates what he has become. He needs to be removed.. What's highly ironic here is that the Spider Society is supposed to be a place where All variants of the characters are Welcome to be who they are and yet Miles is made to feel like an outsider....Wtf? .
Whoever said Peter was butchered is tripping? Is he underused in this movie? Maybe but that’s cuz this movie ain’t about him. He already had his shine in the first movie and will prolly have on in the third movie
Wait, if he had already completed his arc, why is he still a defeatist in ATSV? Arcs are supposed to change a character, yet he's back to his old self, so much so that he joins the villain's side? Just look at his outfit; the movie doesn't even allow him to be Spider-Man anymore. It can be excused by Peter not realizing he's walking into a chase scene at first, but at the end of the movie, he STILL retains his goofy pink robe and STILL decides to bring his infant daughter along, even though he KNOWS he's swinging off into danger. It makes NO sense why he doesn't suit up properly and leave Mayday home. He's just another assassinated character, along with Gwen and Miguel, that's used to prop up Miles.
@@SteamGrace You can see that Peter was there with Miguel when it happened, he SAW what happened to that universe. I'm sure normally he would be against him but after seeing that, he's conflicted. It's not that he doesn't want Miles to save his dad, he's just worried about the potential consequences of it. "If I let him do this, his whole world might crumble" That's what's going through his head.
I can't believe how Critical Drinker lied about Peter in this film. He said they clearly downplayed Peter so Miles could shine. When I watched the film, it turns out Peter was still the best/most experienced Spiderman. He could have nailed Miles at least twice when they chased him. But Peter refrained from attacking Miles and chose to talk to him instead. He was the better man by being a friend/mentor.
Critical Drinker is a hateful and jaded hack who is simply mad he isn't allowed to treat women and non-white people like second-class citizens. He's also probably jealous he can't wear a pink bathrobe and slippers with masculine confidence the way Peter B. does.
Yeah, critical drinker is another grifter for the fandom menace. He ain't exactly the honest type and he's only doing what he does just to make money, much like the rest of the FM. I wouldn't listen to what those guys have to say.
3:20 Peter to Miles : U look great homie Gwen watch Miles and Smile Miles to Peter : U look solid When Peter jokes about his bleeding suit she watch him again but more concerned it's very subtile but it's there
“You guys smell that? Mayday took a crap… Yup, she’s a Parker! That’s what happens when a Parker eats an avocado… 🥑” Well, now we know that those in the Parker bloodline get the runs when they eat avocados 😂
I love seeing Peter b Parker with his daughter mayday Parker spider girl even as a baby because she’s so cute and adorable and as a huge fan of her character in the comics i was so happy to see her from the comics finally adapted into this movie was freaking amazing and awesome.
I think I finally understand the purpose of those spider vials. Throughout the film ,most of all the returning characters maintained a similar design for this film just enhancements like Miles' aged up body. In the previous film, when we see Miguel O'Hara testing the interdimensional watch his design is mostly consistent with his comic depiction. Yet in this film, Miguel is very clearly been overhauled character design wise. I at first wrote it off thinking they needed to make Miguel look more menacing and imposing if he was to properly fit as the film's antagonist (aside from the Spot). But now that I think about...Miguel didn't get bit by a radioactive/gentically-enchanced Spider; his line "But I'm not like the others'. And this fact is shown to us multiple times (no spider-sense, claws, fangs no humor *anymore*) even the other Spiders call him out on it. So would it be a stretch to say that Miguel is perhaps in actuality the 'weakest'/least capable Spider-Man of the multiverse??? His DNA may have been recoded to be 50% spider and 50% human yet he lacks some of the key aesthetics of being a Spider-Man! Miguel has been juicing himself with psuedo-enchanced spider venom for physical augmentation which explains why he's so jacked!!! And he took a dose of it just as Miles came closer toward his office, so it could be very possible Miguel doubted he could contain Miles and took a dose of spider steriod to be 'certain of victory'. Any thoughts?
I don't think he would be the least capable Spider-Man of the multiverse considering that he's capable of leading the Spider-Society. Also, I think Miguel juicing might not be for physical augmentation, it might be to keep his vampire-self at bay considering he almost took a bite off from the Renaissance Vulture. Edit: Nvm, you might be right, him juicing might be for physical augmentation.
“Taking a crap on the establishment, I salute you” 😂 Gets me every time
Same 😂😂😂
It's a great line, just for that. Plus the added nuance, even this early, he's figured out who the establishment is. And is already stealing components to use later to combat them. Hint after hint that he was looking out for Miles and Gwen the whole time. Gwen's his friend, and he knows how much she cares about Miles, so by extension he's still "looking out for his drummer". Give credit to the writers, they put a lot into this.
Same 😂
That line had my whole theater cackling. Hobie is a comedian 😂
His color changed when he said that.
I love that Miguel let’s Mayday play and crawl around him. And knowing that he doesn’t actually have spidey senses shows that he’s explicitly focusing on her when he catches her. It’s a small, but cute moment
Agreed. It's also a good reminder that for all his angst and antagonism vs. Miles, he's not a Bad Guy.
Once you taken care of a child you developed the fatherly instincts Ik I did when I first babysit my niece
Reminds me of this cute fanart
Peter is making funny faces but Mayday isn't responding, then Miguel passes by them and makes funny faces himself, Mayday loves it and then Peter turns around catching Miguel red handed 😂
I never knew Miguel didn't have spidey sense.
Miguel's scene with her daughter still sadden me, you can hear the pure joy from her cute little voice. 🥺
it's a canon event
Her next to frickin miguel is just so funny
I guess that is why he almost dies everytime mayday is around
I have a feeling he absolutely refuses to look at or interact with Mayday because he knows that he'll be immediately reminded of his daughter.
That scene makes me wanna commit war crimes
That look on Miles face when he sees Peter B. Parker was so wholesome. Like a little brother finally seeing his older brother for the first time after so many years.
Just call him Peter Parker 🤷 they only put the B there to differentiate him from Miles' Peter, which is the alternate. THIS Peter is the original. 🤓
Edit: ik the B stands for Benjamin/ his middle name, ijs 🙄 lol
@jderrickson4597 When it comes to the Spider-Verse films, I'm still going to call him Peter B. Parker. It just feels right to me. 😋
@@movies798 sigh DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!! ( shakes fist at God ✊️ ) 😂
@@jderrickson4597 primero que nada no es el oroginal de los comics el hace referencia a ese peter pero fuera de eso este es una variante de peter parker como el del peter rubio asi que no lo llames suplente son distitnas versiones
@perrodurmiendo4601 peter b parker is from earth 616b so its a parrallel (almost the exact same) version of the comic spiderman. So give him some respect
“Just don’t enlist ‘til you know what war you’re fighting.” What a character. What a quote. 1:40
It makes sense seeing as how he’s essentially a character right out of the Reagan/Thatcher era.
Its funmy how clear i hear it now cuhz mt theater experience I didn’t hear that i was like Huh?? When he said that in my theater experience
1:43 actually.
It's really nice to see Peter happy and joyful. He's changed from depressed middle-aged Spider-man who get inspired in the of the previous movie to happy farther with adorable kid. It's so great
Middle aged? Dude, in the first film he was only 37.
@@francostevo9939that is basically middle aged😐
@@Jadz09 that’s a hunk of cow shit. People who are 37 aren’t prunes.
And Miles is the only reason he had the balls to improve his life. He fixed things up with MJ, had a child and is awesome now. So glad Miles and him reconciled before the 'take the leap of faith' scene.
@@francostevo9939 It depends on the person.
4:37 Hobie's line "Taking a crap in the establishment.. I salute you!" is funny af
Plus the added nuance, even this early, he's figured out who the establishment is. And is already stealing components to use later to combat them.
I didn't realize till this watch-through that Hobbie was stealing the components to build his own watch. Bro knew what was up from the get-go.
Hobie said something along the lines of not signing up for anything 'till you know who the real enemy is...He was warning Miles.
He was probably waiting for Miles the moment Gwen talked about him
💯 Hobie knew Miguel and the Spider Society would never accept Miles. That’s why he was hoping Gwen would’ve gotten the courage to tell Miles the truth about who he was in the eyes of the SS. Also, I suspect Hobie believed Gwen’s feelings for Miles were more one-sided… until he met Miles himself. And once Hobie saw how Miles literally went after Gwen as well as how he handled the Mumbattan incident, he realized Miles’ feelings were just as deep for Gwen and why Gwen thought so highly of him-which is presumably why Hobie decided he had to try to warn Miles.
On top of that, as someone said on another video thread, Miles is walking proof that Miguel’s canon event theory is flawed-and Hobie probably realized that after all his conversations with Gwen. Which could be another reason Miguel knew to avoid conversations with Hobie-because Hobie saw right through him.
He knew prior to Gwen coming to 1616. Peter says "this isn't what we talked about" at the end, and Hobie says "Gwen, have you told him about his place in all this?" at the start of Spidey Society.
They all had a conversation regarding Mile's dad's death being canon so Hobie knew what was up the entire time considering Peter B knows what Miguel's on about. He wasn't kidding when he said he was looking out for his little drummer, because he knows Miles will be the ultimate rebel to the cause.
It was Hobies job to break the rules..😂
4:13 i like how miguel lets mayday just roam around even on his own head, and catches her when she falls while looking like an android 😂😂😂😂
Even if we knew he’d been one before now, the ultimate proof that Miguel is/was a dad.
"just dont enlist till you know what war your fighting." Hobie really did know things were gonna blow up fast and was looking out for miles from the second they met but also that quote really is good advice on its own.
Peter B Parker casually flexing his daughter to Miguel knowing very well he lost his is savage
*his
technically not his
It could be a coping thing. I think it has been proven that babies tend to have a positive impact on those who suffer from trauma or PTSD; Similar to the effects of emotional support animals
@@sadcrab69 pues tecnicamente si lo es por que es de su otra version
@@sadcrab69technically it is. Same blood, dna and everything. Just from a different universe. A different Miguel had her but still Miguel nonetheless.
This scene is especially great because it shows you just how hard Peter wants to play both sides. Here he calls Miles an adult ("I didn't know they made those for adults") but later on calls him kid. He doesn't know who he should side with and it shows in a lot of lesser moments like this. He comes in to break the tension (and it works, Miguel calms down and speaks more reasonably and empathetically with Miles). But when Miles rejects them he reluctantly joins the chase
Yeah, but even the chase was pretty half-hearted. I got the feeling he was mainly going along to make sure Miguel didn't go too far.
@@Brasswatchman I think Peter was actually trying to give miles his his goober so he could escape. Especially since he was the only spider to legitimately catch miles but didn’t attempt to hold him in place.
@@willhicks7027He didn't attempt to hold him in place, but he *was* trying to convince Miles to let his event happen. My guess is that Peter understood that you can't "force" a canon event and that Miles should at least have the right to TRY and save his father. Peter likely did not know the watches all had trackers on them. Probably why Hobie took his own watch off and tossed it before returning to his own dimension, he likely figured that out.
Later in the movie when Gwen is recruiting other spider-people, there is a shot of Peter waking up from his nap with a book on his chest that reads something like: "How to get kids to listen" & "How to listen to kids". So it can be implied that the reason Peter calls Miles "kid" is because he's read up on parenting books about communication with children
And this is why I like Peter. He was just tryna be neutral and break the tension
Hobie is the older brother that Miles and godfather Mayday needs.
And the older brother that dies first and at a young ass age too. :/
@@thebluespirit2006Don't say that.
You may be foreshadowing his
future in Beyond the SpiderVerse.
yall really acting like at first the movie doesnt insinuate that Gwen and Hobbie were a thing😂
Maydays godfather has to be Miles
@@thebluespirit2006ah f*ck-
If he dies I’m gonna be so pissed
4:04 the way Gwen and Miles look at each other like “is this guy foreal” 😭
They're friendship is so funny.
Laugh while it's still alive.
100th like
It would be funny if that’s their future.
@@organicelephant5416Miguel x lyla? Hmm interesting 🤔
I love how much of a proud dad Peter B is.
I see why Peter B. Parker is my favorite character. He’s very happy, fun, reasonable and how he was the only Spider person who took Miles’ side when Miguel was chasing him because Peter is Miles’ mentor and he caught him because he wanted to speak to him.
Plus he has a child.
Peter B is the one true white Spider-Man and Miles is the black Spider-Man best buds for life
I didn’t realize that Hobbie was lowkey trying to tell Miles to leave the spider society. He knew it wasn’t what everyone thought it was from the start
And he’s stealing parts to make his own watch while doing that I didn’t notice it the first time through
I agree with Hobie since Miguel’s true nature was revealed which was how his flawed methods of protecting the multiverse have gone too far and because of that Peter decided to leave the society because of how they treated Miles and how they wouldn’t let him reason with him.
Miguel holding Mayday is so funny and sweet.
“humbling reality spider-man” hits a lot different when you know what comes next 3:09
0:19 This sums up Miguel’s entire character, outlook and actions in the movie perfectly. He doesn’t want to be a jerk, The Bad Guy. He means well, just sees the bigger picture in wanting to keep all the worlds alive. He understands situations like Miles’ is unfair, but Miguel’s traumatic experience with his daughter made him believe in practicality, not potential false hope. And that’s just Miguel’s problem, he has no Hope left in him.
Next movie, I sincerely wish Miles finds a way to prove Miguel wrong by saving everyone without harming the Spiderverse
That would be very fairytale like tbh. I don't think it's gonna be that simple.
@@proboiboy7677Maybe if Madam Webb shows up
@@proboiboy7677but it’s not impossible either
Telling Miles that his dad needs to die, because Miles is an anomaly is the dumbest thing ever, whoever decided that are no better than the villains…
bro is the definition of "the ends justify the means" and "the lives of the many outweigh the lives of the few"
@@kevenmonge1390if the multiverse collapses they ALL die. Miguel doesn't *want* to force Miles, he outright says "We all want to live the life we wish we had. Believe me, i have tried." He's not doing this because he likes it. He's projecting his own insecurities on Miles.
“Just don’t enlist until you know what war you’re fighting” is one of the smartest lines I’ve heard in a while
3:48 *Miguel panicking in spanish*
what is he saying
@@linanae1 “no no no i can’t anymore” or something like that
@@linanae1"No puedo más, no puedo más."
@@alexosorio2194Is that his PTSD? 🥺
@@lukiwei9468nah he's probably just over Peter B and his shenanigans
I love how the movie tricks you into thinking Hobie’s planning to turn on Miles only for him to be the only one on Miles side at this point of the movie
I knew already. Hobie In the comics wouldn’t bow down to anybody or anything.
Eh, I never thought that. Dude’s a punk, being evil isn’t really their thing.
@@Wolfbane192road warrior would disagree lol
Spider Punk = best Spidey bro in whole movie
Peter Parked-car clears all others
My guy 👉
Literally the only reason why Miles escaped and Gwen can make a new squad. Easy MVP
Despite his limited amount of screentime Peter still remained a great entertaining character. And it’s good to see that he’s got his life together
Hope Peter gets to do so much more to contibute in Beyond the Spider-Verse. After all, he *is* the OG Spider-Man.
@@jwroot he probably will
Mayday crawling around Miguel is too funny 😂😂😂
And his dead in the eye without blinking and dry tone "I'm trying to hold a serious adult conversation here" and then catches her😂❤
She crawls around him like a tiny spider. I love it.
She is so dam adorable
"He just looks scary. He's got no bite." Very subtle dig at his unusual origin.
I like how Ed keeps on referring to what the person means for example at 0:45 he talks about what spider punk is saying and it really brings the comic vibe because in the comics they like to refer what the characters means
My favourite part about this scene how Miguel is completely and utterly tired of everyone's antics, but still lets Mayday crawl all over him without making a fuss and _immediately_ catches her when she falls, showing that he was paying close attention to what she was doing despite clearly being annoyed by it.
3:13 I like how Miles hugged Peter ❤🤩
Notice how different Miguel O'Hara is. He doesn't even do the whole "alright let's do this one last time" thing
I’m glad we’re finally getting HD clips of this movie
I love how Miguel can’t say anything to hobbie 😂
I love how Hobbie is legit just nicking small parts here and there while he's literally saying "Just build your own watch." Hobbie is literally doing just that!
I liked how Hobie is just taking parts to make his own time portal later to give it to Gwen since he knows it's gonna be a chaos after that and also at the same time convincing Miles to stop this "I want to join the spider team" nonsense since he already knew what's gonna happen next 🤩
1:18 the only time Miguel has had a smile on his face 😢
I love how this movie basically gave Peter B. almost literal plot armor from the "mentor dying" cliche by giving him a baby that he has on him at all times.
3:01 I like how Miles's face lit up after hearing Peter B's voice. It happened to me too when I saw him in the trailers, what a way to meet again, and I was also very excited when I saw his baby Mayday aww.. I'm glad to see him happy again, now that he's formed his family
Also, another thing I liked about the movie is how the 3 Spiders redesigned their costumes, right?
Idk about Peter B but Gwen has the same outfit just different shoes
I love that Hobie is taking all the stuff he needs to make the watch he gives Gwen later on
"I ain't even here...or here." gets me every time. Hobie's the best.
1:43: "Just don't enlist till you know what war you're fighting"
Now that's some good advice.
Second that.
0:50 I love how Miguel was looking at the vulture he fought at the beginning of the movie and he was like "man I fumbled way too badly in the fight"
Can we also just appreciate that as irritated as Miguel is, he’s still great at dealing with a very active baby?
Man, Peter. When he popped up, it just hit me that I missed the guy so much. The OG will always be my favorite #1 hero.
Also, can we get a Peter and Miguel film? The connection they have is pretty awesome and worth exploring as well.
Play Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions
@@spider-man500 I grew up with that game. And Edge of Time.
@@spider-man500they should finish SpiderVerse and then make a Shattered Dimensions franchise with the same animation style. Less meta but exploring all the Spidey villains.
Well if you want a peter and miguel story, play Spiderman 2 for Ps5
It comes out this October
@@mastergamingdude6191 1. I already know when Spider-Man 2 comes out. Everyone knows.
2. How is that a Peter and Miguel story?
I'm glad that Peter got his life back on track. He looked so lost in the last movie.
I am just cackling and loving how Miguel is the ONLY one that’s trying to be serious!! But he acts like these other spider folk are going to give him an aneurysm, i especially love his lack of patience with Hobie and Peter XD and it activates his Latin Blood LOL as a Hispanic this made me laugh so much when he said “no puedo mas, no…puedo…mas!” XD
3:36
The wonder in maydays eyes as she explores her powers ❤
2:45 I just got the famous meme in mind
0:00 Gwen still has Miles on her leash LMAO
Peter B has everything he’s wanted at this point, he’s got Miles as a little brother, he’s got MJ, he now has a daughter. I would say he’s winning but I genuinely think Insomniac Peter has it better. Miles and Peter live in the same city and dimension not just across 2
"Taking a crap on the establishment, I salute you." lmaoo i love hobie
1:14
“We did it this time!”
“Okay, okay, mija”
I love when movies are in HD and you can hear other details you never noticed before! 😭💖 this little bit of dialogue between Miguel and his daughter is so cute yet sad! It’s torture
So satisfying to see that at least one version of Peter gets to be a husband and a dad without any kind of awful twist to undo it just to get back to the status quo
Marvel comics 👀
I like to think that when Miguel is slowly descending from his space he’s thinking of what approach to take with whatever Spider-Man or canon issue he’s about to deal with, knowing full well that he doesnt rlly like doing it, but also knowing that nobody else would want to either.
3:38 might be my favorite joke in the whole movie
4:20 you say “the fate of the multiverse” AND MY BRAIN DIES
‘Sniffs’ You smell that? Mayday took a crap
@@matthewsoucy9073Yep. She’s a Parker.
@@TheProtagonist2020 That’s what happens when a Parker eats an avocado.
“You took a crap on the establishment I salute you” is one of the greatest lines in cinematic history 😂
Man I just realized, Hobie was taking random shit off the walls and machines because he was building his own watch, he literally says “Make your own watch” too lmao.
Miguel: 🧍♂️
Mayday: must be a play ground
Love how movie is Making Peter Dad and Happy. Can’t say about the current comic run.
Marvel should take a page out of this movie and make Peter finally be happy with MJ again
2:25 "Que Maravilla"
3:48 Miguel: I’m surrounded by idiots
Yea, Miles does have an idea to catch the Spot 💡 2:33
Peter is like the cool uncles everyone wish they had, and hobbie is the big bro everyone wants as well🤝🏾
2:17 EY!!! Que tal tio?🖐🏻
2:22 Te traje una empanada ☺️
2:25 Que maravilla 😒
3:48 No no no no, no puedo más, no puedo más 😤
Watching Hobie steal parts that he later uses to make his own watch is so great.
I like how Spider-Punk is stealing parts to make a watch, when he probably originally intended to do it for Miles since Miles said he wanted a watch.
first scene where miguel has multiple screens of miles just walking is so crazy like its not that serious man 😭
4:33 when Peter says that the kid wasn't thinking it kind of sounds like he's defending Miles from what he accidentally did
First time Miles meets Miguel he says “¿que tál? which is the European Spanish way of saying “what’s up?” but Miguel is half-Mexican and their “what’s up?” is “¿que ondá?”
So that’s all the reason he needed to throw a trash can at him
Also, “tio” strictly means “uncle” but I heard it could also be translated to “dude” in certain Latin-American countries although so can “hombré”
Nope, he’s half puertorriqueño
@@charanguito180495that’s Miles
@@charanguito180495he’s half Mexican
hobbie holding may day giving her a compliment " taking a crap on the establishment, i salute you" is like big brother goals
4:27 "Yep, she's a Parker. That's what happens when a Parker eats an avocado."
Too many hilarious moments in this one clip 🤣
1:19 "good job, okay go clean up for dinner 😊" that's actually sad
Bro Hobie is the goat.
Miles is (quite understandably) a bit jealous and annoyed, but from literally first sight Hobie sees a brother in him and looks out for him.
That thumbnail hits hard after knowing he bout to get jumped
To all people that thought Peter B Parker was underused/butchered in this movie :
The fact that PbP is so distant in this film is only to better show the independence of the hero. All mentors have to leave the protagonist to fend for themselves, no longer be useful, and have to disappear (not always literally). That's literally the same case as: Obi wan Kenobi, Yoda or even Gandalf. In the context of Spider-verse 2, Miles can't even trust him, because that's to be expected following the story arc of the 1st movie. Completely obsessed with his daughter (again it's totally normal when you watch the PbP from the beginning of the 1st Spider-verse, he had an impressive personal glow-up which he is proud of). But in the film, the mentors appreciate their apprentices, nevertheless they are corrupted by the institution of the Spider-society, to the point that instead of accompanying them in their transformation they just try to transform them into the shell of themselves , as obedient soldiers (same case between Jessica drew and Gwen). He remains completely obsessed with his own happiness despite the fact that he lets himself be walked on by the philosophy of Miguel o'hara. From a plot point, this shows the conflict of opinion and perspectives between Miles and Miguel, PbP giving up his freedom (in a certain way) because he doesn't need it and he's already very happy: That's exactly why he is so insistent on wanting Mayday and Miles to interact. In the dialogue, in the kind of factory, he doesn't even really listen to what Miles has to say and he even shouts to impose his opinion while showing that he is happy despite the fact that he has left himself corrupted by the Spider-society. He tries to convey the same idea to Miles : "Accept the tragedy of canon events and you can still be happy, just look at me and follow my example". It's not like he was a totally different character in this movie, the 1st film already shown he was kind of a defeatist person. Plus already completed his character arc !
Yet he learnt from his mistakes , we can liteally see him reading a book titled : "how to talk so kids will listen & and listen so kids will talk". Literally ALL the other mentors and parental figures learn this lesson, except Miguel O'hara that's why he's the antagonist.
I disagree.
PBP, Spider Gwen and Miles became a Team..
Now, it's disbanded, broken up....
Miguel, obviously, hates what he has become. He needs to be removed..
What's highly ironic here is that the Spider Society is supposed to be a place where All variants of the characters are Welcome to be who they are and yet Miles is made to feel like an outsider....Wtf?
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Sorry bruv but I ain't reading allat
Whoever said Peter was butchered is tripping? Is he underused in this movie? Maybe but that’s cuz this movie ain’t about him. He already had his shine in the first movie and will prolly have on in the third movie
Wait, if he had already completed his arc, why is he still a defeatist in ATSV? Arcs are supposed to change a character, yet he's back to his old self, so much so that he joins the villain's side?
Just look at his outfit; the movie doesn't even allow him to be Spider-Man anymore. It can be excused by Peter not realizing he's walking into a chase scene at first, but at the end of the movie, he STILL retains his goofy pink robe and STILL decides to bring his infant daughter along, even though he KNOWS he's swinging off into danger. It makes NO sense why he doesn't suit up properly and leave Mayday home. He's just another assassinated character, along with Gwen and Miguel, that's used to prop up Miles.
@@SteamGrace You can see that Peter was there with Miguel when it happened, he SAW what happened to that universe. I'm sure normally he would be against him but after seeing that, he's conflicted.
It's not that he doesn't want Miles to save his dad, he's just worried about the potential consequences of it. "If I let him do this, his whole world might crumble" That's what's going through his head.
2:52 😂😂
That one weird friend
In Miguel's monologue, you can just hear how depressed he is. It's a good detail in Oscar Isaac's voice
I can't believe how Critical Drinker lied about Peter in this film. He said they clearly downplayed Peter so Miles could shine. When I watched the film, it turns out Peter was still the best/most experienced Spiderman. He could have nailed Miles at least twice when they chased him. But Peter refrained from attacking Miles and chose to talk to him instead. He was the better man by being a friend/mentor.
Critical Drinker is a hateful and jaded hack who is simply mad he isn't allowed to treat women and non-white people like second-class citizens.
He's also probably jealous he can't wear a pink bathrobe and slippers with masculine confidence the way Peter B. does.
Critical Drinker sounds like he wouldn't be a fun person to be around
@@RandomSkyeRoses always has been
Yeah, critical drinker is another grifter for the fandom menace. He ain't exactly the honest type and he's only doing what he does just to make money, much like the rest of the FM. I wouldn't listen to what those guys have to say.
@@Spider-Man9615how can people even trust someone who has a life span for about 2-3 more years.
3:20
Peter to Miles : U look great homie
Gwen watch Miles and Smile
Miles to Peter : U look solid
When Peter jokes about his bleeding suit she watch him again but more concerned it's very subtile but it's there
4:37 Taking a crap on the establishment?
*I S A L U T E Y O U !!* 😂😂😂
4:28
If you listen really hard (and pretend lol) it sounds like “double my breakfast”
Hobie liiterally warned him about whats gonna happen
"Don't enlist till you know what war you're fighting"
I notice he hates when Peter shows up lol like his creator of the mantle walks in the room he takes the shine
"Taking a crap on the establishment, I solute you!"lol hobbie
“You guys smell that? Mayday took a crap… Yup, she’s a Parker! That’s what happens when a Parker eats an avocado… 🥑”
Well, now we know that those in the Parker bloodline get the runs when they eat avocados 😂
3:48 never realized this moment before
This quality is so beautiful 😭
This Peter with a daughter made me smile, unlike the comics one where some douche named Paul ruined Peter's life.
3:25 Thank God, I'm not the only one who thinks his suit makes him look like his armpits are bleeding
Why does everyone think mile’s’ suit makes him look like his armpits are bleeding he made his suit his own designs on his suit
1:13-1:25
File audio :
We did it this time !
Ok ! Ok mija !
( laughter )
good girl get down ok go clean up for dinner
Miles is like a student basically giving an apple to a teacher on his first day of school when he gives the empanada to Miguel
Miguel suddenly calmed down after Mayday climbed on him
You say T H E F A I T H O F T H E M U L T I V E R S E and my brain dies.
Fate*
Peter Parker and his Peter Parkerisms.
That thumbnail man, really tugs at your heartstrings
I love seeing Peter b Parker with his daughter mayday Parker spider girl even as a baby because she’s so cute and adorable and as a huge fan of her character in the comics i was so happy to see her from the comics finally adapted into this movie was freaking amazing and awesome.
I think I finally understand the purpose of those spider vials.
Throughout the film ,most of all the returning characters maintained a similar design for this film just enhancements like Miles' aged up body. In the previous film, when we see Miguel O'Hara testing the interdimensional watch his design is mostly consistent with his comic depiction. Yet in this film, Miguel is very clearly been overhauled character design wise. I at first wrote it off thinking they needed to make Miguel look more menacing and imposing if he was to properly fit as the film's antagonist (aside from the Spot).
But now that I think about...Miguel didn't get bit by a radioactive/gentically-enchanced Spider; his line "But I'm not like the others'. And this fact is shown to us multiple times (no spider-sense, claws, fangs no humor *anymore*) even the other Spiders call him out on it. So would it be a stretch to say that Miguel is perhaps in actuality the 'weakest'/least capable Spider-Man of the multiverse??? His DNA may have been recoded to be 50% spider and 50% human yet he lacks some of the key aesthetics of being a Spider-Man! Miguel has been juicing himself with psuedo-enchanced spider venom for physical augmentation which explains why he's so jacked!!!
And he took a dose of it just as Miles came closer toward his office, so it could be very possible Miguel doubted he could contain Miles and took a dose of spider steriod to be 'certain of victory'.
Any thoughts?
I don't think he would be the least capable Spider-Man of the multiverse considering that he's capable of leading the Spider-Society. Also, I think Miguel juicing might not be for physical augmentation, it might be to keep his vampire-self at bay considering he almost took a bite off from the Renaissance Vulture.
Edit: Nvm, you might be right, him juicing might be for physical augmentation.
I’m so happy that Peter got his life back together with Mary Jane and had a daughter! I can’t wait for Mayday to become Spider-Girl 😊
What a cute baby
Hobbie:Taking A Crap On The Establishment I Salute You
2:26 there right there thats where the beef started