Article III Section 2 ... The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Interesting how it's illegal to ask for an I'D to vote, but you need a background Che k and a real ID to get ammunition to exercise my constitutional freedom. Can't have it both ways!
Its only made possible through ignorance. Like that of those who use made up phrases like "constitutional freedom". As if the constitution grants some magical freedom or inthis case rights. BTW there is a difference inthe definitions of terms such as "rights" and "freedom" or "freedims". Educate yourself or remain the problem.
@@FreedomInc Who appointed you to be the person who defecates on people’s comments? “Constitutional freedoms” is the common contraction of “Constitutionally protected Freedoms” those rights enumerated in the U S Constitution Bill of Rights. How is it that out of thousands of viewers you are the one who doesn’t grasp that basic truth?
In my state you don't need ID to buy ammo, but do need an ID to vote. If you look really young, you might get ID'd to buy ammo just to make sure you're 18.
7 year case. Think about that, 7 years going through the court system. How is that not being discussed? 7 years lawyers for BOTH sides getting paid, 7 years donations coming in, 5 years tax payers money wasted and there is your answer on why it's 7 years. What if you took 7 years to pay your property taxes? What if you decided to walk into a store and come back 7 years from now to pay sales taxes, what if you pledged $100k to crpa in 7 years... All of them would have a shit fit. But yet us? Wait 7+ years. Joke. Bruen, joke. Heller, joke.
@@d_k_C_A As well as Our Constitutional Rights have been STRIPPED AWAY FROM US FOR SEVEN YEARS! WHO Do The Citizens Sue! THEMSELVES!? The Taxpayers of California!? 🤬. Businesses lost, people leaving, homes and savings depleted waiting for Gavin Newsome and his Chinese abiding Oligarchs!
The courts got the licensing regime wrong in Bruen. The difference between a right and a privilege is permission. Requiring a license is making a person get permission from the government to exercise a right, thus turning it into a privilege. #ReclaimFreedomAndLiberty
The lawsuit did not bring that as the question in Bruen. "Does New York's law requiring that applicants for unrestricted concealed-carry licenses demonstrate a special need for self-defense violate the Second Amendment?"
What is the point of the rulings below if ANY state can repeatedly enact arbitrary laws undermining previous rulings negating the "Supreme Law Of The Land" at every turn? “No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177." "All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174, 176” "Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105; "No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it." Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262; "If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
"Boy everyone in this country is running around yammering about their fucking rights. "I have a right, you have no right, we have a right." Folks I hate to spoil your fun, but... there's no such thing as rights. They're imaginary. We made 'em up. Like the boogie man. Like Three Little Pigs, Pinocio, Mother Goose, shit like that. Rights are an idea. They're just imaginary. They're a cute idea. Cute. But that's all. Cute...and fictional. But if you think you do have rights, let me ask you this, "where do they come from?" People say, "They come from God. They're God given rights." Awww fuck, here we go again...here we go again. The God excuse, the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument, "It came from God." Anything we can't describe must have come from God. Personally folks, I believe that if your rights came from God, he would've given you the right for some food every day, and he would've given you the right to a roof over your head. GOD would've been looking out for ya. You know that. He wouldn't have been worried making sure you have a gun so you can get drunk on Sunday night and kill your girlfriend's parents. But let's say it's true. Let's say that God gave us these rights. Why would he give us a certain number of rights? The Bill of Rights of this country has 10 stipulations. OK...10 rights. And apparently God was doing sloppy work that week, because we've had to ammend the bill of rights an additional 17 times. So God forgot a couple of things, like...SLAVERY. Just fuckin' slipped his mind. But let's say...let's say God gave us the original 10. He gave the british 13. The british Bill of Rights has 13 stipulations. The Germans have 29, the Belgians have 25, the Sweedish have only 6, and some people in the world have no rights at all. What kind of a fuckin' god damn god given deal is that!?...NO RIGHTS AT ALL!? Why would God give different people in different countries a different numbers of different rights? Boredom? Amusement? Bad arithmetic? Do we find out at long last after all this time that God is weak in math skills? Doesn't sound like divine planning to me. Sounds more like human planning . Sounds more like one group trying to control another group. In other words...business as usual in America. Now, if you think you do have rights, I have one last assignment for ya. Next time you're at the computer get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, i want to type in, "Japanese-Americans 1942" and you'll find out all about your precious fucking rights. Alright. You know about it. In 1942 there were 110,000 Japanese-American citizens, in good standing, law abiding people, who were thrown into internment camps simply because their parents were born in the wrong country. That's all they did wrong. They had no right to a lawyer, no right to a fair trial, no right to a jury of their peers, no right to due process of any kind. The only right they had was...right this way! Into the internment camps. Just when these American citizens needed their rights the most...their government took them away. and rights aren't rights if someone can take em away. They're priveledges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of TEMPORARY priviledges; and if you read the news, even badly, you know the list get's shorter, and shorter, and shorter. Yup, sooner or later the people in this country are going to realize the government doesn't give a fuck about them. the government doesn't care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare or your safety. it simply doesn't give a fuck about you. It's interested in it's own power. That's the only thing...keeping it, and expanding wherever possible.
I moved recently. Turners told me the only way I can buy ammo now is 1) either buy a new gun or 2) go into the CFARS system and register one of my guns at the new address. So if I don’t do one of those two things, I can’t buy ammo. Thank god I learned to reload 15 years ago. This law cannot stand.
@@frankmccarthy2624 b.s. get your ffl03 and a coe from the doj cost is about $60 total for both. You can order ammo online and have it shipped to your house. Legally
Fuck Turners. They moved into Arizona and completely destoyed the older established stores in this state. Expensive beyond reason, shitty management. Go to a REAL gun store and get the scoop from them.
9:00 this attorney is much too flippant about accepting licensing requirements to carry. Inalienable rights should NEVER be taxed, feed, permitted nor controlled in any manner.
Which is why I never purchase CA compliant pistols with a mag disconnect. If you get into a grapple with an assailant (which happens often enough to be dangerous), it is very likely one of you will hit the mag release and then you have one shot and then it becomes a club.
I am so happy to live in Idaho. It takes 30 minutes to buy a firearm and buyimg ammunition is walk in, pick it up off the shelf, and go pay for it. No concealed carry laws, no open carry laws.
We had that in Ca, we could go to the store and buy ammo now our rights are infringed. This is how it works and this how ny and ca agenda makes to federal level. I say all other states should adapt laws on top of constitution to prevent rights being taken away. So, if this gets to your state you would have 20 laws against government taking your rights.
A couple of years???? For fucks sake man, I tried to order during freedom week and my order never made it here. As a CA native I'm so glad to see our state slowly turning red. Let's get these America hating dems out of office.
I went purchase crazy the day that standard capacity magazines were legal and I think only a dozen or so magazines didn't get shipped out prior to the stay on the order. It wasn't even 5% of the total magazines I purchased during that week. Now all my 10rd magazines just sit in a safe and I keep standard capacity and large capacity magazines as ready to go no matter what vehicle or room I'm in at home.
If I want ammunition, I go to Arizona and buy it there. Any fool that thinks I need to bring it to a sporting goods store and pay a double tax to re-buy it from them are insane. Nobody does that.
Unfortunately in law, you have to cross all your “t’s”and dot all your “i’s”, or some other liberal judge will point out due process was not met. Is everything is done correctly, due process is met, then there can be no over turning of a ruling. Although, “shall not be infringed.”, says it all.
@tomlimburg2578 You are right, Tom. The ninth has shifted ever so slightly to the right of the politburo and the seventh has moved up to worse of the worse. I only think about the seventh when I'm having nightmares, usually.
The discussion about the people being wrongly denied and the minute it takes to wait for results obscures the REAL burden that is created. The real burden is you have to go to an ammo vendor or ffl in the first place. Today people get everything delivered whether by Amazon or someone else. And what about people who live in rural areas with no FFL nearby? The whole thing is a big infringement
That’s right. Being in Texas I’m so used to just ordering a case or two and they appear on my doorstep. Too easy to forget how burdensome this little component of California law is. Of course you all are so screwed I rarely look at the details and just stay away from the state.
Most people I personally know in rural areas of the state have Dillion, RCBS, or Lee presses and just handload/re-load their own, better quality ammo, cheaper cost, no government involvement.
IMHO, the added cost of an ammunition background check in time and added cost is an infringement. Additionally, the California ammunition law interferes with interstate commerce; an area of law that is strictly the purview of the Federal Law.
The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the "Supreme Law of the Land". Any statute to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail.” “No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177." "All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174, 176” "Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105; "No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it." Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262; "If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
Well, all these years of fighting, losing money, jumping hoops, and hurdles to practice a right in CA has been exhausting! Now 11% tax ? Training is an issue
As a non resident that spends time in California, there is no way to legally buy ammunition in California. Nonresidents can not pass the background check.
But they will sell you an out of state hunting license. This stupid law doesn't let you bring ammo into the state. So how the hell do you hunt using the out of state hunting license?
@ actually the prohibition on import starts with “ No California resident shall…. Import ect.” So I guess us nonresidents can bring in ammo by the truckload . We just can’t sell it or give it away.
@@TheThinker434 agree, but ammo is not firearms. Like ammo, nonresidents can bring firearms into California. I would not bring in something banned like a 50 BMG or what they call an assault weapon . I would bring in a standard capacity magazine so long as I possessed it in California during freedom week or pre ban
Being able to order ammo online would be so nice. it's one of the worst laws that they put in place. I don't leave my house often and it would be great to be able to buy what I need. I love my local stores but they don't always stock everything. if we get a good decision California will appeal and it will be a slog. I hope it comes out on the side of Freedom.
@@rickykeim2005 I don't understand all these gun owners that don't do research. There is a work around that is 100% legal. Is it unconstitutional what's going on? Yes but if you spend $60 for your ffl03 and coe from the doj you can order ammo online and have it shipped to your house legally
Thank you CRPA for all you do but I'm done. I'm moving after the first of the year to Nevada. The tyrants in California will continue to be tyrannical. My next issue is having enough money to get cans for all my boomsticks!
I have a friend who legally bought his gun, has a hunting license, but for some reason can't pass the NY background check to purchase ammo. Ammo should not require a background check.
Will the gang members and felons do the background check in California to get ammo ?, will Chicago gangsters give up their guns so to be in compliance with the Illinois gun ban ? Just asking.
New York has this same system. Constantly see delays to purchase. Nearly impossible to buy ammo on Friday - Sunday as there are not enough resources to run the background checks. Some people drive 45-75 minutes to specifically buy ammo and get turned away and need to come back another day. Ridiculous.
... and UNLESS you have a Military ID, you CANNOT buy ammunition here. Even with a Military ID, you would need the "One-Time Eligibility Check", (Assuming you don't have a firearm registered in California), which would cost $19, and take between 3 hours and two weeks for approval, EVERY time you attempt to purchase ammunition.
$500.00 for renewal of a ccw. Either fees training range fees applications background checks and permit fees in Maryland. Every couple years is outrageous.
It's only a Misdemeanor to get caught with a concealed legally owned weapon...better than getting a ccw and legally having to tell a cop that you're carrying
The 2nd Amendment is not a right. The right to be armed is endowed by our creator, and the 2nd Amendment is telling the government, the RULE they have to follow; “Shall not be infringed”
At the end of this case I have a bad feeling they're going to keep this in place simply so California can implement its unconstitutional 11% excise tax. Simply put if they don't force us to go to an FFL then they have no means of implementing this tax since it is applied at the ffl, that's why I tend to buy from Arizona companies like last shots or other Arizona vendors so I don't have to pay the tax over there and then I end up just having to pay the excise tax here which is already unconstitutional but we all know that's in the court now.
SCOTUS stated on all 2A rulings it is the government that must prove the text, history, and tradition allows them to create law. One problem is this is not a law... It's a statute. This statute violates the inherent rights of the people. In addition the unlawful registration of California was deemed a violation of 4A in 2012 in a SCOTUS ruling of forced registration of private property against NJ.
If you purchase ammunition in other state, and you bring the ammunition into the state of California without involving a California FFL, you are committing an infraction under the law. An infraction is the same level crime as a speeding ticket.
It is crazy here in Illinois every time I wanna buy a gun I have to pay for a background check to order a gun. I have to pay for a background check once they’re gonna arrive. I have to get another background check. It’s ridiculous. It’s just a big money grab by the state.
GET TO THE JUDGES STATEMENTS THAT SURPRIZED THE ATTOURNEYS !WHY TALK AROUND IT ? IT IS NOT THE FIREARM OR AMMO BUT THE PERSON THAT IS BREAKING THE LAWS WITH FIREARMS !...
Not thrilled about the couple of years more comment, but not surprised, either. At least I got to get ammo one time during the few days of freedom we had. One thing that I haven’t heard brought up as far as burdens go is the added cost involved when having ammo shipped to a FFL. Like with firearms purchased out of state, ammo also involves a transfer fee from the receiving FFL. That increases the cost of the ammo over what was paid to the vendor. Negating some or all of the savings from purchasing online.
The ammunition background check laws in CA also creates bizarre outcomes for retired CA peace officers. Under CA law and dept policy a honorably retired officer is granted a renewable 5 year endorsement on his/her retired ID to carry concealed in CA and under federal law HR 218 that officer can carry nationwide (subject to qualifying every year). However, under CA law if that retired CA officer retires to say, Nevada (and obtains a Nevada driver's license etc) that same officer who has the legal permission to carry in CA granted under CA law, CANNOT BUY AMMUNITION in CA or import ammunition into CA. Makes NO sense.
I can't currently buy ammo without registering a firearm at my residence. Everyone in my boat has or 2nd amendment right administrativly, facially, restricted.
What about buying a car, boat, truck, motorhome and not having the right to buy gas to operate it? DUH!! Or a camera and not being able to buy film. Or a Steak and not being allowed to buy a knife to cut it. Crazy
They got into the real point, deep into the video (12 minutes) In the post-Heller RKBA world, it is firmly established that the 2nd Amendment secures (does not create) to the individual, the fundamental RKBA, unconnected to any particular militia service. It is equally clearly established that reasonable time, place and manner restrictions can be put on the exercise of fundamental rights. What we have been doing, ever since, is arguing over the limits of 'reasonable".
The second amendment says "right to bear arms", look at the definition of arms (weapons and ammunition; armaments). So as the amendment reads, all firearms and ammunition are protected under the amendment due to the lack of categorizing the term arms.
Ammunition are "arms" met by the definition of arms in the 1700s. To that proposition, ammunition being an explosive, thus the conflict of right to bear, vs knives, swords, arrows and their devices, ALL explosives shall also be considered protected to bear under our 2nd A.
The ammo infringement is annoying but the handgun roster is the show stopper. Law Abiding citizens having their rights denied to choose the weapon that is available in every state other than California of their choice and only allowed to purchase a gun that the state approves of that is safety approved by Government employees that are not qualified to say which gun is safe or which gun is not. It is the easiest infringement to expose as unconstitutional and it is still in place decades later. How does an annoyance like the ammo infringement leap frog over the challenge to the roster?
There's a lot of showstoppers here. For me the biggest in the magazine capacity laws. That one by far nerfs your ability to defend yourself the most, whether you're concealed carrying or defending your home it's an issue. The next one for me is the whole "featureless" rifle BS. Also not being able to have SBRs or suppressors are show stoppers too.
@@elsamuraiguapo The 10 rd mag is something to adapt to but it is more of an annoyance. The featureless rifle thing was an intentional thing aimed at law abiding customers to keep them from buying a government altered rifle. Nobody wants those things. The SBR ban never made any sense. Taking away the ability to have a suppressor also falls into the States intentional plan to needlessly restrict choices to annoy and infringe. None would stand in a real court where the Judges are not bias and corrupt.The handgun roster is by far the worst as it keeps you from having modern firearms common in all other States.
@williamryan9195 I'd still argue that if we could "wish away" one of those laws instantly the best option would be magazine laws. The roster still at least has some decent options that work, like the M&P 2.0. But being limited to 10 rds could be the difference between life and death. Also the roster doesn't impact long guns. I'd rather have a 30 rd mag PCC to defend my home with than my selection of pistols.
@@elsamuraiguapo I respect your point but the roster has more guns being decertified and dropping off faster that added.The Compliant 2.0 is ok until you realize you can't get it in any other caliber and barrel options and it is not optics cut.They'll give you 150 trade in if it doesn't work out .Long guns are only allowed modified by the State with fixed stock and grip fins. Featureless isn't worth the effort. The roster is the big hurdle IMHO because it limits choice severely to old discontinued items.
Should be a class action against CA, and make them pay back for anyone who paid for this. Especially for CCW holders.
Article III Section 2 ... The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Yeah, especially those that are the best obeyers. Its more of a violation of the privileges they begged for than the rights of those that haven't.
Right!!
How did they compensate all the CCW permit holders that they doxxed?
@@tobingallawa3322same as always… the people got no rights in communism
Interesting how it's illegal to ask for an I'D to vote, but you need a background Che k and a real ID to get ammunition to exercise my constitutional freedom. Can't have it both ways!
Its only made possible through ignorance. Like that of those who use made up phrases like "constitutional freedom". As if the constitution grants some magical freedom or inthis case rights. BTW there is a difference inthe definitions of terms such as "rights" and "freedom" or "freedims". Educate yourself or remain the problem.
@@FreedomInc
Who appointed you to be the person who defecates on people’s comments?
“Constitutional freedoms” is the common contraction of “Constitutionally protected Freedoms” those rights enumerated in the U S Constitution Bill of Rights.
How is it that out of thousands of viewers you are the one who doesn’t grasp that basic truth?
You need an ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol too
In my state you don't need ID to buy ammo, but do need an ID to vote. If you look really young, you might get ID'd to buy ammo just to make sure you're 18.
@@LJR_LIMITED Those aren't guaranteed in the Constitution. Also 2 wrongs don't make a right.
7 year case. Think about that, 7 years going through the court system. How is that not being discussed? 7 years lawyers for BOTH sides getting paid, 7 years donations coming in, 5 years tax payers money wasted and there is your answer on why it's 7 years. What if you took 7 years to pay your property taxes? What if you decided to walk into a store and come back 7 years from now to pay sales taxes, what if you pledged $100k to crpa in 7 years... All of them would have a shit fit. But yet us? Wait 7+ years. Joke. Bruen, joke. Heller, joke.
Five years of tyranny on citizens fundamental rights!!! In California there is NO Second Amendment, just tyranny.
When was the last time a gun control law was struck down in California?
@TheDidjidude great question!!! But we continue to donate, continue to suffer, continue to be infringed.
@@d_k_C_A 7 years donations
@@d_k_C_A As well as Our Constitutional Rights have been STRIPPED AWAY FROM US FOR SEVEN YEARS! WHO Do The Citizens Sue! THEMSELVES!? The Taxpayers of California!? 🤬. Businesses lost, people leaving, homes and savings depleted waiting for Gavin Newsome and his Chinese abiding Oligarchs!
The courts got the licensing regime wrong in Bruen. The difference between a right and a privilege is permission. Requiring a license is making a person get permission from the government to exercise a right, thus turning it into a privilege.
#ReclaimFreedomAndLiberty
The lawsuit did not bring that as the question in Bruen. "Does New York's law requiring that applicants for unrestricted concealed-carry licenses demonstrate a special need for self-defense violate the Second Amendment?"
@@BigTomInTheBasement The fact that we are even asking permission (permits) is insane.
What is the point of the rulings below if ANY state can repeatedly enact arbitrary laws undermining previous rulings negating the "Supreme Law Of The Land" at every turn?
“No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177."
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174, 176”
"Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105; "No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it." Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262; "If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
"Boy everyone in this country is running around yammering about their fucking rights. "I have a right, you have no right, we have a right."
Folks I hate to spoil your fun, but... there's no such thing as rights. They're imaginary. We made 'em up. Like the boogie man. Like Three Little Pigs, Pinocio, Mother Goose, shit like that. Rights are an idea. They're just imaginary. They're a cute idea. Cute. But that's all. Cute...and fictional. But if you think you do have rights, let me ask you this, "where do they come from?" People say, "They come from God. They're God given rights." Awww fuck, here we go again...here we go again.
The God excuse, the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument, "It came from God." Anything we can't describe must have come from God. Personally folks, I believe that if your rights came from God, he would've given you the right for some food every day, and he would've given you the right to a roof over your head. GOD would've been looking out for ya. You know that.
He wouldn't have been worried making sure you have a gun so you can get drunk on Sunday night and kill your girlfriend's parents.
But let's say it's true. Let's say that God gave us these rights. Why would he give us a certain number of rights?
The Bill of Rights of this country has 10 stipulations. OK...10 rights. And apparently God was doing sloppy work that week, because we've had to ammend the bill of rights an additional 17 times. So God forgot a couple of things, like...SLAVERY. Just fuckin' slipped his mind.
But let's say...let's say God gave us the original 10. He gave the british 13. The british Bill of Rights has 13 stipulations. The Germans have 29, the Belgians have 25, the Sweedish have only 6, and some people in the world have no rights at all. What kind of a fuckin' god damn god given deal is that!?...NO RIGHTS AT ALL!? Why would God give different people in different countries a different numbers of different rights? Boredom? Amusement? Bad arithmetic? Do we find out at long last after all this time that God is weak in math skills? Doesn't sound like divine planning to me. Sounds more like human planning . Sounds more like one group trying to control another group. In other words...business as usual in America.
Now, if you think you do have rights, I have one last assignment for ya. Next time you're at the computer get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, i want to type in, "Japanese-Americans 1942" and you'll find out all about your precious fucking rights. Alright. You know about it.
In 1942 there were 110,000 Japanese-American citizens, in good standing, law abiding people, who were thrown into internment camps simply because their parents were born in the wrong country. That's all they did wrong. They had no right to a lawyer, no right to a fair trial, no right to a jury of their peers, no right to due process of any kind. The only right they had was...right this way! Into the internment camps.
Just when these American citizens needed their rights the most...their government took them away. and rights aren't rights if someone can take em away. They're priveledges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of TEMPORARY priviledges; and if you read the news, even badly, you know the list get's shorter, and shorter, and shorter.
Yup, sooner or later the people in this country are going to realize the government doesn't give a fuck about them. the government doesn't care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare or your safety. it simply doesn't give a fuck about you. It's interested in it's own power. That's the only thing...keeping it, and expanding wherever possible.
Like the 1st amendment protects ink
The 2nd amendment protects ammo
EXACTLY!
Redcoats were searching for stores of powder and shot.......
Weren’t they after tax stamps? And that’s how they gained access to people’s homes and other discoveries?
Pure wisdom my American brother thank you.
... and every other amendment
I moved recently. Turners told me the only way I can buy ammo now is 1) either buy a new gun or 2) go into the CFARS system and register one of my guns at the new address. So if I don’t do one of those two things, I can’t buy ammo. Thank god I learned to reload 15 years ago. This law cannot stand.
@@frankmccarthy2624 b.s. get your ffl03 and a coe from the doj cost is about $60 total for both. You can order ammo online and have it shipped to your house. Legally
What about fighting the ammo and gun tax?
Fuck Turners. They moved into Arizona and completely destoyed the older established stores in this state. Expensive beyond reason, shitty management. Go to a REAL gun store and get the scoop from them.
@@SoCalChoppasyou're talking to a California "conservative".
All whine, no spine
Too bad your balls couldn't be found.. if you could find where you lost them you could go buy it by the truckload .
9:00 this attorney is much too flippant about accepting licensing requirements to carry.
Inalienable rights should NEVER be taxed, feed, permitted nor controlled in any manner.
DIMINISHED...Don't forget diminished.
See case laws Murdock v Pennsylvania and Shuttlesworth v City of Birmingham, Alabama.
A firearm without ammunition is an expensive club
Unless it’s a High Point. Lol
Clubs are illegal in California… Don’t tell the politicians that… Lol…
Which is why I never purchase CA compliant pistols with a mag disconnect. If you get into a grapple with an assailant (which happens often enough to be dangerous), it is very likely one of you will hit the mag release and then you have one shot and then it becomes a club.
I use mine for paper waits.
You mean a paperweight.
I am so happy to live in Idaho. It takes 30 minutes to buy a firearm and buyimg ammunition is walk in, pick it up off the shelf, and go pay for it. No concealed carry laws, no open carry laws.
As it should be in every state A right delayed is a right denied
One cannot legally carry within a certain distance of a school (1,000 feet IIRC) without a permit, that's a federal law.
I wish it would work here in California, but most of us are another sort, 🤔 then again it would decrease the population rapidly!@@c56cameo
Yes an unconstitutional one !
We had that in Ca, we could go to the store and buy ammo now our rights are infringed. This is how it works and this how ny and ca agenda makes to federal level. I say all other states should adapt laws on top of constitution to prevent rights being taken away. So, if this gets to your state you would have 20 laws against government taking your rights.
A couple of years???? For fucks sake man, I tried to order during freedom week and my order never made it here. As a CA native I'm so glad to see our state slowly turning red. Let's get these America hating dems out of office.
They the dems are the problem...LITERALLY !!!
No, its totally corrupt America hating Dems!
I went purchase crazy the day that standard capacity magazines were legal and I think only a dozen or so magazines didn't get shipped out prior to the stay on the order. It wasn't even 5% of the total magazines I purchased during that week. Now all my 10rd magazines just sit in a safe and I keep standard capacity and large capacity magazines as ready to go no matter what vehicle or room I'm in at home.
but northern mexico…er…a…i mean los anglas. controls the vote of ca.
If I want ammunition, I go to Arizona and buy it there. Any fool that thinks I need to bring it to a sporting goods store and pay a double tax to re-buy it from them are insane. Nobody does that.
😓 Whomever comes up with these laws should be held liable for their loss in court! Not the TAXPAYERS! GAVIN NEEDS TO GO! His Family Too!
His family on his wife's side left the state, I guess they can't stand the pr!ck !!!
Send them to Haiti
Literally all the fukcers that have put these anti 2a decrees all belong to the same tribe.
👹✡️
Need to get all the state assembly assholes that bring these bills up to begin with voted out of office.
Whoever, not whomever.
SCOTUS needs to grow some balls and take some of these cases and settle it once and for all. Cowardous court system.
5years (and counting), and hasn’t even come close to being referred to SCOTUS . . . .
It doesn't matter what SCOTUS rules.California has discovered they can ignore SCOTUS with no consequences.
California doesn't care what the SCOTUS says. Just like New York, if they don't like the SCOTUS they just choose to ignore the ruling.
Unfortunately in law, you have to cross all your “t’s”and dot all your “i’s”, or some other liberal judge will point out due process was not met. Is everything is done correctly, due process is met, then there can be no over turning of a ruling. Although, “shall not be infringed.”, says it all.
The 9th circus is the worst
Always has been.
WRONG ANSWER! THE 7TH CIRCUIT IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF ILLINOIS IS EVEN WORSE!
@tomlimburg2578 You are right, Tom. The ninth has shifted ever so slightly to the right of the politburo and the seventh has moved up to worse of the worse. I only think about the seventh when I'm having nightmares, usually.
Seven years ..... freaking ridiculous
the lawyers are making bank on this. so no reason for them to get a final rulling.
Background checks = " REGISTRATION"
The discussion about the people being wrongly denied and the minute it takes to wait for results obscures the REAL burden that is created. The real burden is you have to go to an ammo vendor or ffl in the first place. Today people get everything delivered whether by Amazon or someone else. And what about people who live in rural areas with no FFL nearby? The whole thing is a big infringement
That’s right. Being in Texas I’m so used to just ordering a case or two and they appear on my doorstep. Too easy to forget how burdensome this little component of California law is. Of course you all are so screwed I rarely look at the details and just stay away from the state.
Most people I personally know in rural areas of the state have Dillion, RCBS, or Lee presses and just handload/re-load their own, better quality ammo, cheaper cost, no government involvement.
I've always viewed the new ammo laws being analogous to every time I guy gasoline having to contact the DMV to prove their license is still valid
… and, driving is a privilege, not a right. So they could make you do that as a privilege, but they should not be able to for an inalienable right.
@@syn4057 you missed my point it was an analogy
And now if you buy ammo out of state, drop off at dealer and do a background check, you now have to pay the 21% tax on it.
This is the real reason for the law.
Right vs privilege 💪
9th commie court 😡
9th Circus fiddling while California burns. Bread and Circuses.
They are getting better. Look at the Duarte case
Imagine having to pass a driver's test each time I wanted to fill my car up with gasoline
IMHO, the added cost of an ammunition background check in time and added cost is an infringement. Additionally, the California ammunition law interferes with interstate commerce; an area of law that is strictly the purview of the Federal Law.
The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the "Supreme Law of the Land". Any statute to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail.”
“No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177."
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174, 176”
"Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105; "No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it." Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262; "If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
Well, all these years of fighting, losing money, jumping hoops, and hurdles to practice a right in CA has been exhausting! Now 11% tax ? Training is an issue
Great job! Keep at it, guys!
Ammunition is arms and the 2nd covers arms, not just specifically firearms. Seems pretty simple to those not mentally deficient.
Well you are dealing with democrats and judges Which have shown again and again you can be educated and still be a idiot
don’t forget, you’re referring to lawyers: attorneys and judges . . . . .
As a non resident that spends time in California, there is no way to legally buy ammunition in California. Nonresidents can not pass the background check.
But they will sell you an out of state hunting license. This stupid law doesn't let you bring ammo into the state. So how the hell do you hunt using the out of state hunting license?
@ actually the prohibition on import starts with “ No California resident shall…. Import ect.”
So I guess us nonresidents can bring in ammo by the truckload . We just can’t sell it or give it away.
@@jeffbroders9781 LibRat liberals have a mental disorder
@@scotthanson7888 and nonresidents can’t simply buy firearms out of state under federal and California law.
@@TheThinker434 agree, but ammo is not firearms. Like ammo, nonresidents can bring firearms into California.
I would not bring in something banned like a 50 BMG or what they call an assault weapon . I would bring in a standard capacity magazine so long as I possessed it in California during freedom week or pre ban
Can’t believe Bybee was appointed by a republican, total RINO
Republicans are ultra-liberal. Democrats are outright Communists.
And Clifton, the B&L author. Clifton is a total jerk
Well Bybee was appointed with Diane Feinstein's Approval.
@ omg that whole panel was horrible and the worst part is even if Trump is able to stack the 9th they are still bound by B&L until it can be corrected
Bybee signed the torture memo the authorized torture at GITMO. He should be in prison as a war criminal.
Keep fighting my friends. Don't give up.
When is the California gun tax case going to be heard??
2099
Does it really matter? This case has gone on for 7 years, I see no reason that the gun tax case will be resolved any time soon.
It’s in the court now.
Being able to order ammo online would be so nice. it's one of the worst laws that they put in place. I don't leave my house often and it would be great to be able to buy what I need. I love my local stores but they don't always stock everything.
if we get a good decision California will appeal and it will be a slog. I hope it comes out on the side of Freedom.
@@rickykeim2005 I don't understand all these gun owners that don't do research. There is a work around that is 100% legal. Is it unconstitutional what's going on? Yes but if you spend $60 for your ffl03 and coe from the doj you can order ammo online and have it shipped to your house legally
Thank you CRPA for all you do but I'm done. I'm moving after the first of the year to Nevada. The tyrants in California will continue to be tyrannical. My next issue is having enough money to get cans for all my boomsticks!
You will be much happier. Just make sure you relocate to a conservative county. Stay away from Clark and Washoe County.
Great job CRPA!
I have a friend who legally bought his gun, has a hunting license, but for some reason can't pass the NY background check to purchase ammo. Ammo should not require a background check.
I do a bulk ammo run to Vermont twice a year 🤷♂️
Will the gang members and felons do the background check in California to get ammo ?, will Chicago gangsters give up their guns so to be in compliance with the Illinois gun ban ? Just asking.
Yes. It’s why places like L.A. and Chicago are so safe.
This is like you can have the freedom of speech but breathing is illegal . . . stupidity knows no bounds.
I blame Robert’s for letting this all blow into a wildfire while he looked the other way….
Roberts has turned out to be a weakling on hard matters Lost it all for him when he let Obamy care stand
Controlled.
Great video!
I had no idea in 1982 that learning how to reload ammunition would be so important some 40 years later in California.
Armed scholar should take notes on how to go about explaining what’s going on. Thank you for this vid
New York has this same system. Constantly see delays to purchase. Nearly impossible to buy ammo on Friday - Sunday as there are not enough resources to run the background checks. Some people drive 45-75 minutes to specifically buy ammo and get turned away and need to come back another day. Ridiculous.
Please keep fighting the good fight !!! 👍
I live in Pasadena...would love to buy you guys a drink!
So if I come into California to do a PRS rifle match I can't bring my ammunition with me
Correct
🤫you good
Not so. Out of staters can bring ammo but not buy any
... and UNLESS you have a Military ID, you CANNOT buy ammunition here.
Even with a Military ID, you would need the "One-Time Eligibility Check", (Assuming you don't have a firearm registered in California), which would cost $19, and take between 3 hours and two weeks for approval, EVERY time you attempt to purchase ammunition.
@ just bring your own 🤫
What a mess; this is an absolute right in the Constitution people and especially judges. This will not stand with SCOTUS.
expecting a decision any decade now.
I have not purchased ammunition in California since this uncostitutional law was imposed on us
One of my favorite 2a quotes....the beauty of the 2a is it will not be needed until they try to take it.......
Do I have to do that if i buy a tv as well?? Then wtf makes Commyfornia think this would be LEGAL IN AMERICA??
$500.00 for renewal of a ccw. Either fees training range fees applications background checks and permit fees in Maryland. Every couple years is outrageous.
Same in Kommifornia.
@ you guys have to get a background check for
AMMO!!!!
Best lawyer I’ve seen combined the example of voting laws compared to 2A. I pull out my hair trying to get lawyers use that example
The ideologues have figured out it isn't the law as written but, the law as interpreted. Just like the 2A!
There is exactly this BS system in EVERY state with regard to handguns!!!!! Both in violation of the 2nd Amendment
great show, happy I found this channel
Defend The 2A!
It's only a Misdemeanor to get caught with a concealed legally owned weapon...better than getting a ccw and legally having to tell a cop that you're carrying
I hope I don't forget to not buy ammo when I go to Montana next summer!
The 2nd Amendment is not a right. The right to be armed is endowed by our creator, and the 2nd Amendment is telling the government, the RULE they have to follow; “Shall not be infringed”
At the end of this case I have a bad feeling they're going to keep this in place simply so California can implement its unconstitutional 11% excise tax. Simply put if they don't force us to go to an FFL then they have no means of implementing this tax since it is applied at the ffl, that's why I tend to buy from Arizona companies like last shots or other Arizona vendors so I don't have to pay the tax over there and then I end up just having to pay the excise tax here which is already unconstitutional but we all know that's in the court now.
The excise tax is criminal, too.
What about the people that are afraid that a no would go permanently against us on some record
SCOTUS stated on all 2A rulings it is the government that must prove the text, history, and tradition allows them to create law. One problem is this is not a law... It's a statute. This statute violates the inherent rights of the people. In addition the unlawful registration of California was deemed a violation of 4A in 2012 in a SCOTUS ruling of forced registration of private property against NJ.
If you purchase ammunition in other state, and you bring the ammunition into the state of California without involving a California FFL, you are committing an infraction under the law. An infraction is the same level crime as a speeding ticket.
If a relative gives you the ammo you're exempt.
I’m shocked and surprised, people would purchase Ammo out of State🤪
Since when is filling out and paying for a background check " minimally evasive"?
If you live California and hunt out of state you are not supposed to bring your ammo home with you.
If you come to calif and buy a non resident license you still can't buy ammo
It is crazy here in Illinois every time I wanna buy a gun I have to pay for a background check to order a gun. I have to pay for a background check once they’re gonna arrive. I have to get another background check. It’s ridiculous. It’s just a big money grab by the state.
Think ammo is expensive now? Pay for that background check on top. Dealers won't check it for free.
Justice no longer exists in CA at least as far as the Constitution goes and it remains unclear if that will ever change. Thanks Democrats.
There is zero constitutional authority to regulate firearms at all.
Arrest the governor
Justices working diligently. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ammo IS an arm.
As it is carried or worn into conflict.
GET TO THE JUDGES STATEMENTS THAT SURPRIZED THE ATTOURNEYS !WHY TALK AROUND IT ? IT IS NOT THE FIREARM OR AMMO BUT THE PERSON THAT IS BREAKING THE LAWS WITH FIREARMS !...
If you get a COE, and buy a gun or rifle you should be automatically approved for any ammunition.
Sure....aint none of us here in California "acquiring" ammo in Nevada or Arizona....not us.....we would NEVER do that...👌
Not thrilled about the couple of years more comment, but not surprised, either. At least I got to get ammo one time during the few days of freedom we had.
One thing that I haven’t heard brought up as far as burdens go is the added cost involved when having ammo shipped to a FFL. Like with firearms purchased out of state, ammo also involves a transfer fee from the receiving FFL. That increases the cost of the ammo over what was paid to the vendor. Negating some or all of the savings from purchasing online.
The ammunition background check laws in CA also creates bizarre outcomes for retired CA peace officers. Under CA law and dept policy a honorably retired officer is granted a renewable 5 year endorsement on his/her retired ID to carry concealed in CA and under federal law HR 218 that officer can carry nationwide (subject to qualifying every year). However, under CA law if that retired CA officer retires to say, Nevada (and obtains a Nevada driver's license etc) that same officer who has the legal permission to carry in CA granted under CA law, CANNOT BUY AMMUNITION in CA or import ammunition into CA. Makes NO sense.
Here is a thought: "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
I can't currently buy ammo without registering a firearm at my residence. Everyone in my boat has or 2nd amendment right administrativly, facially, restricted.
Does the California ammunition background check regime apply to ammunition reloading components, e.g., powder, primers, bullet/projectile, etc?
Not yet.
How does California handle reloading ammo?
What about buying a car, boat, truck, motorhome and not having the right to buy gas to operate it? DUH!! Or a camera and not being able to buy film. Or a Steak and not being allowed to buy a knife to cut it. Crazy
They got into the real point, deep into the video (12 minutes) In the post-Heller RKBA world, it is firmly established that the 2nd Amendment secures (does not create) to the individual, the fundamental RKBA, unconnected to any particular militia service. It is equally clearly established that reasonable time, place and manner restrictions can be put on the exercise of fundamental rights. What we have been doing, ever since, is arguing over the limits of 'reasonable".
8:20 I’m going through this right now, it’s definitely not easy and clear cut
It's a huge hassle to get unpopular ammo.
The second amendment says "right to bear arms", look at the definition of arms (weapons and ammunition; armaments). So as the amendment reads, all firearms and ammunition are protected under the amendment due to the lack of categorizing the term arms.
Are you in front of a green screen or outside?
Outside the Pasadena courthouse after the hearing:
The 2A doesn't talk about burden - ammunition is a vital part of all firearms and is shall not be infringed!!!
Why is the restriction of Constitutional Rights legal
Judges ensuring they always have something to do.
Ammunition are "arms" met by the definition of arms in the 1700s. To that proposition, ammunition being an explosive, thus the conflict of right to bear, vs knives, swords, arrows and their devices, ALL explosives shall also be considered protected to bear under our 2nd A.
Recall newson. Make california gold again.
"Freedom of the press" must also include the type, ink, and paper,, not just the screw press or platten press..
I know someone who has hunting license, ccw permit and cant buy ammo in ca due to the way the persons name was recorded in the system.
Fun fact. These laws never applied to free Americans. And because you refuse to use the 2nd amendment for its only purpose it’ll always continue.
Murdock v Pennsylvania and Shuttlesworth v City of Birmingham, Alabama
Why are we not talking about the new 11% tax on Firearms and ammo still?
It’s in court and there’s nothing to report yet.
Hinder????
The ammo infringement is annoying but the handgun roster is the show stopper. Law Abiding citizens having their rights denied to choose the weapon that is available in every state other than California of their choice and only allowed to purchase a gun that the state approves of that is safety approved by Government employees that are not qualified to say which gun is safe or which gun is not. It is the easiest infringement to expose as unconstitutional and it is still in place decades later. How does an annoyance like the ammo infringement leap frog over the challenge to the roster?
There's a lot of showstoppers here. For me the biggest in the magazine capacity laws. That one by far nerfs your ability to defend yourself the most, whether you're concealed carrying or defending your home it's an issue. The next one for me is the whole "featureless" rifle BS. Also not being able to have SBRs or suppressors are show stoppers too.
@@elsamuraiguapo The 10 rd mag is something to adapt to but it is more of an annoyance. The featureless rifle thing was an intentional thing aimed at law abiding customers to keep them from buying a government altered rifle. Nobody wants those things. The SBR ban never made any sense. Taking away the ability to have a suppressor also falls into the States intentional plan to needlessly restrict choices to annoy and infringe. None would stand in a real court where the Judges are not bias and corrupt.The handgun roster is by far the worst as it keeps you from having modern firearms common in all other States.
@williamryan9195 I'd still argue that if we could "wish away" one of those laws instantly the best option would be magazine laws. The roster still at least has some decent options that work, like the M&P 2.0. But being limited to 10 rds could be the difference between life and death. Also the roster doesn't impact long guns. I'd rather have a 30 rd mag PCC to defend my home with than my selection of pistols.
@@elsamuraiguapo I respect your point but the roster has more guns being decertified and dropping off faster that added.The Compliant 2.0 is ok until you realize you can't get it in any other caliber and barrel options and it is not optics cut.They'll give you 150 trade in if it doesn't work out .Long guns are only allowed modified by the State with fixed stock and grip fins. Featureless isn't worth the effort. The roster is the big hurdle IMHO because it limits choice severely to old discontinued items.
Lawsuit tennis.