The day of surrender, Grant had 3,000 wagons filled with bacon, other meats and vegetables brought in to feed the almost starving confederates. He also went against the advice of his staff and allowed southerners to keep their rifles and horses stating, as hunters and farmers they'd need both to survive. He also didn't agree that General Robert E. Lee and his staff should be arrested and tried for Treason. As a born and reared southerner and member of the U.S. Army, retired Colonel, I've always admired Grant from his humanitarian action.
Another thing worth mentioning. According to historical accounts, Grant ordered his troops to refrain from any form of celebration or triumphalism. He believed it was inappropriate to gloat over a defeated foe and wanted to foster a sense of reconciliation, rather than further division. Grant’s exact words, according to some sources, were: “The war is over; the rebels are our countrymen again.”
The commanding officer was Joshua Chamberlain to give the salute order. The confederates had tears streaming down their face as did the Union soldiers!
My great grandfather and his brother both enlisted at the beginning of the war and served under Pickett. Both fought in the last engagement at Sailors Creek. What’s amazing is both survived the war and after surrender walked a short distance to home in Farmville Va
Did you ever try to get their records from the US government? That really is an amazing story. Their chance of both surviving the entire war is practically nothing. Were they both farmers?
Surprised that Grant’s adjutant, LTC Ely Parker wasn’t mentioned. Parker, a full blooded Native American, was the man who wrote the draft of the terms of surrender. Parker had both a law degree and an engineering degree. It is said that when Lee departed the farm house, he told Parker that it was good to see one “true” American was present.
Lee had two supporting officers, LTC Talyor and LTC Marshall. Taylor was in charge of food and rations. Marshall was in charge of ammunition. Taylor was on leave to get married and was not present at the retreat or surrender. So, you could say love was in the way of the CSA army. When the supply trains came there was only ammunition and guns. So, they had to stop and look for food. It was a story I heard one time in Richmond. Thought it was a good point.
Taylor was with Lee from Third Petersburg through the end at Appomattox. His diary is one of the best accounts of the retreat westward and all of the problems the army faced. In fact he was charged by Lee with issuing her parole certificates to the men on April 12th so that the generals could go home. The story about him being absent was a smear campaign that originated in the lost cause when Taylor ran for the senate as a Republican in the 1880s.
Atlanta falling to the Union left the C.S.A. without the ability to bring ammunition, food, and more troops. General Grant left Southern City’s burned downed to the ground. Why did the CSA not fight harder for New Orleans & the Mississippi River? They did not give thought to the need in transporting troops, supplies, and food. Most likely there was language from both Gen Lee & General Grant; which, were hammered out before the two met. Then the worst war in our history finally ended.
I believe Grant saved our country with his liberal conditions of surrender. As a long time OTR driver I have learned and been amazed at the noticeable differences between the people of each state and their politics. Some are nice and some not, just to give an example. I guess it shows the enormous size of our United States.
This is exactly what I have taught in my 30 years of teaching American history, true for my colleagues as well. I actually hand out copies of the rations coupons etc. You really need to visit a real, modern classroom and not the made up one from you memories. You get an "F."
@@CityBoyinCountry so true. i was a high school math teacher (retired 2019). I have friends who haven't been in a school since the 70's but will opine endlessly about what is happening in schools now. funny and irritating....
@@CityBoyinCountry" made up "? Reality isn't made up, no matter how different each experience is. For instance, as a senior, i taught college classes because the professor was too busy staying relevant and published. The reality for " my students" wasn't made up. My " real classrooms" sparked a career teaching doctors, while not a doctor myself. I then retired from a very successful medical consultancy I formed and ran.
Grant and Lee worked things out in the surrender terms. Longstreet knew that resistance was not an option so surrender was the best option. Grant followed Lincoln's wishes in bringing the nation back together.
6:28 point of order please. Confederate horses belonged to the soldier, not the confederate government. To make them leave personal property would be a violation conventions of war in place at the time.
😂 violation of conventions of war? What convention? Yankees burned homes and killed livestock and raped women and girls. What convention of warfare did the blue bellies ever follow? Withholding horses or any personal property was a choice on Grants part. They could have piled it up and burnt it if they so decided. CSA troops had no say so in the terms, that was Grant's hospitality.
@@philipliethen519 Possibly the officers' sidearms in some cases. Less universally the private soldier's weapons, usually issued by the mustering state. Stacking arms is at any rate a defining usage of surrender.
@ it was not. Only a few men could afford a personal weapon, and it was usually a pistol. As stated the officers kept their pistols. Some select sharpshooters did get weapons purchased, but those were from their commanders. By the end of the war, most of their muskets were shot out anyways and were likely destroyed. The south was falling apart and resupply was tough.
I was gong to add that some men did in fact keep their long guns. They simply left when they were told it was over. I wasn’t there, but I imagine they figured a man gotta eat and a rifle will help that out some.
I've read quite a bit about Grant and many people don't give him the credit he is due. In some ways, Lee was a better tactician than Grant, but Grant excelled in other ways and that is how he won his victories. He understood the importance of logistics. If you can't feed, clothe and arm an army, then you can't fight. In several instances, Grant made it a point to cut off Lee from needed supplies. Part of that was sending Sherman on his march through the South. Another way that Grant excelled was not being afraid to using his superior numbers to hammer out a victory, which he did time and again.
They had all fought together in the Mexican war. Everybody knew that Lee's strategy was to be super aggressive at all times. So the Union strategy was to put Lee in bad positions and provoke him to attack. It worked over and over again. If Lee's army had not been broken at Gettysburg it would have been eventually.
That hasn't been finished yet. The North still has its foot on the Souths neck to this day. Monument removals, renaming forts. The oppression still goes on today.
Lee flatly rejected the notion of continuing the struggle as a guerrilla war. He instructed his soldiers to return home and become good citizens. There is a story of a black man walking to the front of the Episcopalian church where the Lees attended. The black man knelt down at the alter to pray and Lee walked up, and knelt down beside him. I think Lee actions after the war did much to bring this country together.
So one thing people forget about Grants surrender terms when they debate if he was lenient or not is that he was more or less told to offer most of those terms by the president. The only thing Grant added of his own volition was the part about the horses.
It was the war of "northern aggression ". I was raised in the north, but moved south as soon as I was old enough, very rarely do I visit the northern states.. Southerner by the grace of god....
After his surrender at Appomattox, Robert E. Lee lived only another five years - the forgotten chapter of an extraordinary life. These were his finest hours, when he did more than any other American to heal the wounds between North and South
Lee's efforts to promote reconciliation after the war are highlighted as positive aspects of his legacy. However, many argue that his actions were more about preserving the honor of the South rather than addressing the injustices of slavery.
Lee and Grant are both graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, new York state. I do not know who is the upper classman or senior of the two. I believe most of the generals on both sides are west point graduate.
@@kevinmeachem2138 so Lee already graduated from the Academy and Grant could still be in high school; and lee could already be a captain when Grant entered West Point.
Lee also said he did not want any monuments built to recognize the Confederacy because he believed that such memorials would hinder national reconciliation and perpetuate divisions between the North and South.
He said of them ... "Best to not leave open the sores of war." After Appomattox he told his men to "Fold the flag and put it away or else it will be divisive." It's amazing how many lost causes consider him to be a genius - yet they don't follow his advice. 🧐
Is that true?!?! If so , why did the daughters of the Confederacy so intent on putting UP monuments to keep the confederacy alive? You know , going against Lee’s wishes ?
The Confederate Government was so busy running from Richmond, they failed to even bother sending supplies has always been my understanding. The war was pretty much over, otherwise "Unconditional Surrender" Grant would have lived up to his name.
My great grandfather Fredrick Bertram served in the GAR . People forget how the men in the field were most often fighting for local political perceptions and allegiances then for a national cause . Political thought was limited to the local press and local business interest . The telegraph was the state of the art national communication . Most lived and worked in their own back yard . Sad that people are still fighting over this very costly war . Grant was one of the sane leaders who saved countless lives and tried to unify the country , Sherman caused much vindictive destruction .
I'm thinking guerrilla warfare would be worse. We learned that in Europe from many Civil and Revolt conflicts. The South would have been more devastated if it happen. But as Americans we prevented that and United Solidly.
It is popular to denigrate Robert E. Lee today. Most people don't possess a tenth of the character to the man. He turned down a fortune from an insurance company that just wanted to use his name. Basically, he said his name was all he had left, and it wasn't for sale.
Lee was a butcher. Brilliant on defense, but a butcher and lost 30% of his troops when on offense. Also, to this day, the African American slaves who carried the supplies for Lee's army and dug the defensive trenches were never recognized. Grant, on the other hand never suffered more than 20% loses. And Grant was on the offense!
Lee not turning to a Guerilla war stopped mischief suffering and made reconciliation easier. And there is no reason to think that, had the war continued, the whole of the Confederacy would have been subjected to total war of Sherman and Sheriden. Militarily the Union stuck to the Anaconda plan and methodically won for the start. The exception being the battles with the larger Confedeeate armies especially Lee’s.
Hi guys! I am from Europa and I like all what is connected with the Old South, general Lee and Dixie people. I like to know, what fights and battles were continuing, after April 9th, 1865 to August 31, 1866, and where? Thanks!
Also look up the CSS Shenandoah. If you like history you will get kick out of that one, other than pointing out that she started her mission to attack union ships the day Lee surrendered, and was crewed by mostly British navalmen, I will not spoil it for you any further. 😊
@@johndunn678 Thanks man! I will do it now! And, these battles are proves that American Civil war wasn't over when the Yankees laying us it was over. All that battles were after general Lee surrender, near Appomattox court house, on April 9th, 1865. PS: Thanks again, my man, and I was always know that the Yankees are just an layers. 🤠✌👍🤜✍
@@johndunn678 Oh, I will look also that, what you mention me about the CSS Shenandoah. And, yes, I like history so much! Especially so what is unknown to me and so hidden with Yankee lies, and propaganda, until to these days. I must say too, that I never heard before, for that battles. Because, it were never spoken in any today or past Yankee, or Hollywood movies, about Civil war. That movies always says to us just what was happened before Lee capitulation. But, never after! And, even about Lincoln death is for me so unknown historical material. Can you tell me where I can find some more information, about that historical event. And, free of Yankee lies, of course?! Thanks brother and Long live Old South! And RIP to brave fallen Confederate soldiers, between 1861 to 1866, in so bloody Civil war for Dixie freedom.
What reason, besides a fondness white supremacy, could you have for thinking the world might be a better place if an expansion-minded slave-owning empire had taken root in North America?
You're right. That famous painting memorialized the myth that they sat at the same table. The table that General Grant used to sign the terms of surrender Phil Sheridan paid Wilmer McLean $50 for it and then gave it to Custer's wife Libby. It's in the Smithsonian today.
@@alpha-omega2362 Custer was there. He accepted the initial white flag of surrender from the Confederates. He took the gift table from Sheridan and swung it up in the saddle with him and rode away.
BTW, Sheridan did a decent thing by paying McLean for his table. Obviously the soldiers knew the significance of the surrender location, and a number of them basically started to help themselves to items which were in the front room. McLean couldn't do anything about it because they all had guns. What was he supposed to do? Ironically, McLean had lived in Manassas where the first battle of the civil war happened. (That's where McLean Virginia is located.) He reasoned that he might be able to move far enough away from battle sites that he would be free of any more war. Little did he suspect that the war would follow him and be literally brought to his front door in Appomattox Court House...
LOL the painting of Longstreet and Lee is way out of proportion.( approx 4 min into film) Longstreet is over six feet tall, and Lee is a short guy. The painting of Jackson and Lee ( Located at the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond) was painted using the distance between subjects. A study of the human structure of that period will reveal interesting facts unknown to the general public. Take a look at Gen Johnston's uniform and imagine him in it. Unreal.
Both Grant and Lee were honorable men who put the betterment of man above the cause. Had Lee took to gorilla warfare, the fight would have extended well beyond what the Civil war did. Even today, Southern Pride is Strong and it only lead to the betterment of our nation! My .02 from a Yankee (by Birth).
Can't agree about Lee. He knew secession was treasonous, yet went along with it and fought as hard as he could to keep slavery alive. Not much "betterment of man" in his actions there. And surrender at Appomattox wasn't a hard choice...guerilla warfare wasn't a valid option, and if he hadn't surrendered, his army would have been absolutely crushed the next day, and he would have been a prisoner of war. He saw the chance to get off easy and took it.
Lee was a traitor pure and simple ... and a racial bigot .... and the South today ( I have lived here most of my life) is bigoted beyond belief and voted for Trump
The idea of punishment for a Confederate shows how far the country had come form the principles we were founded on. Our principles of government are that any people any where having the means may throw of a bad government. And this is not confined to the country as a whole. Any section may separate, form what ever new alliances they chose and form a government that suits them. WE believe this idea can set all men free.
Whose idea? It was Nathan Bedford Forrest who killed the entire Centralia negro settlement after their capture, black and white, man, woman and child. It is the Confederates who proposed to execute any officer captured in command of black troops and enslave any black troops captured regardless of their previous free status under law, theirs included. As always, Democrats propose to indict enemies for what the enemies weren't doing and they themselves avowed intention to do, given the chance. Not punishing the defeated Confederates was remarked on with wonder by the potentates of Europe, and demonstrates who carried forward the principles of the founding. What the Confederates would have done if they prevailed we know not, but the indications were bad.
@@philipliethen519 What i find interesting is an amendment was made to end slavery but no amendment addressing secession was made. So every state still has that right. However, there would have to be a large gathering of all the evidence on the right of secession. Three of the constitutional ratification documents declare that right, 2 of them simply on the basis of the people being unhappy. Davis was never tried for treason because he made it known his defense would be based on the right of secession.
I just want to tell you guys, that similar situation was in Europa, after WW2. Because, capitulation of the German forces, on 8th of May, 1945, was also just symbolic end of WW2, in Europa. Some Axis armies were surrendering later, between 9th and 25th of May, 1945. And, even that wasn't all! In Germany, the Guerilla war was continuing until May, 1949. In some parts of Europa, who were before"the end" parts of the Axis power countries, the little or Guerilla war continuing until early 1960s, like in Ukraine, Baltic states, Balkan peninsula, ect. And, even after that, the resistance against occupation continuing in years 1953, East Germany, Berlin, 1956, Hungary, Budapest, 1968, Czechoslovakia, Prague, 1972, Yugoslavia, 1980s, Poland and finally 1989, Germany, Berlin and all rest of Europa, against the winner of WW2 or the USSR. So, the end of the WW2 or the American Civil war is a relative sense and even false today. I think that WW2 didn't finish in Europa in May, 1945 or on the Pacific, against Japan, in September, 1945. The same is with American civil war! We listen the Yankee propaganda about 160 years in North America or 80 years in Europa. The real truth about these historical wars is so different, in reality. Be saluted, guys, and write if you got to tell me something about all that!Thanks and God bless the Old South, and Europa too!
in my pursuit of ancestry I came to learn that a distant cousin of mine Ellison Hatfield was an Officer in General Lee's army of Norther Virginia he was of the Hatfield's from Hatfield McCoy war , as for myself I never surrendered I am Confederate
so everyone knows General Lee showed up in a neat clean uniform , that uniform was cleaned and pressed by one of General Lee's freed slaves which he never bought but inherited when his Father-in-law passed , that former slave stayed with Lee all through the war as a free will of his own also General Lee freed his slaves 2 years before the Civil War begin
If there were untold facts ....how could we know them today ??? Never bring passed down to next generation ....I hate these narrators expecting none of us to have brains that function
I certainly stand to be corrected as I am no expert however anything I have ever read indicates that Grant showed up approximately 30 minutes after Lee showed up. Again I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but 30 minutes does not seem to be hours to me. When you start out an article with the first item you mention being What I consider to be at the least an unintentional falsehood, How could I possibly believe anything you say afterwards. I simply can't.
@crippledcrow2384 If he had brought in a high government official, the surrender would have halted fighting on all fronts and eased the process of reconciliation.
@@digitalnomad9985 Lee was only in command of his army, and had no authority to act for the government. In a similar reverse situation, the Confederates sent a peace commission to talk to Grant in the months before the surrender. They tried to negotiate a peace treaty for the Confederacy, and Grant, in essence, said he had no power to speak for the US government, only his own command.
Lincoln was adamant that the authority of the commanders in the field was limited to the surrender and disbandment of the Confederate forces. All questions concerning the future were reserved for the President. Johnson stuck to this position after Lincoln was assasinated. It is the reason why the original terms between Sherman and Johnston were rejected, terms which would have included the surrender of all remaining Confederate forces in the field. Johnson's authority was derived from the presence of Confederate Sec. of War Breckinridge's presence during the first negotiations. Whether the protections afforded to paroled prisoners extended beyond the cessation of hostilities is debatable. Grant initially argued it did in connection with the possible prosecution of Lee. Others disagreed. Whether Grant would have taken this position if Lincoln had lived is unknown. One reason not mentioned why Johnson delayed declaring the end of the rebellion was legal. The continued existence of the rebellion extended powers that had been granted to the administration (or assumed by them) to deal with the rebellion.
Lincoln was committed to reconciliation. I am sure Grant's terms came from Lincoln. IF the South had continued to fight, Lincoln's assassination would have ended ideas of peaceful reconciliation. His death would have filled the hearts of Northerners with revenge, I think. IF the North had wreaked vengeance on the South, who knows what direction our country would have taken after the war. It might have been ugly.
I enjoy studying history as well as my family's history. My great-great-grandfather, William Bob story fought in the 48th Alabama under Long Street. He fought the duration of the war and laws brigade which was part of long streets army. Had it not been for Long Street as Lee surrendering at Appomattox, I likely would not be here. Bob Story was listed as a prisoner of war at Appomattox Virginia. He was paroled with the rest of Lee's army. He walked all the way back to Alabama. Family history says he suffered from what is now called. PTSD, was not a very good provider for his family. However, my ancestors survived and here I am. To really look at what all of our ancestors went through, both North and South, which by the way I had ancestors that fought on both sides, if we leave politics out of it, we can really see what great people we descended from. Resourceful people, people who overcome great hardships. In those days there was no government assistance. All these men on both sides went home and lived their lives, and many were the grandfathers of the world war II soldiers.
You keep using the term “Resistance” or “Resisted” I wonder if that's the proper term for the aggressor in this war. There were about half a dozen attacks on government facilities such as armories before the attack on Fort Sumter. The North didn't start the war. In fact there were not two sides until the southern states seceded. The word “Resistance” implies(if not thru definition but connotation) someone fighting for a noble cause. Greed and the wish to enslave people for profit falls a little short of a noble cause.
Longstreet had a history of being wrong way more than he was right. HE was by no means a tactician. He like grant only knew how to through a mass of men at a situation,
@@vjiori The South was always more authoritarian and socially stratified than the North, essentially a garrison state against servile insurrection, and became even moreso during the war. Every measure for which Lincoln was pilloried by the revisionist, the suspension of habeas corpus, conscription, etc. and more he did not implement, was implemented by the Confederate government first. To pretend that the South was a champion of human rights is the diametric opposite of the truth. That all men are created equal is the founding principle of the American Union.
In your series on what happened after the Civil War, I suggest that you cover how the South negated reconstruction policies. The Union may have won the 1st Civil War, the War Between the States, but the South won Reconstruction, the 2nd Civil War.
The main Union goal was preserving the Union. The main Confederate goal (as stated by Confederate leaders again and again and enshrined in the Confederate constitution) was the preservation of slavery.
My 2x Paternal Great Grandfather Mounterville Woodard was with the Army of N Va. and present at the surrender. He was a Ferrier/ Blacksmith and after the war lived out his life in North Central Arkansas.
Who were the generals who continued fighting after Lee surrendered? Everyone was obliged to continue fighting until his commanding officer informed him that a higher officer had surrendered him and his fellows. No senior could surrender unless he had no other choice (ie Vicksburg) or the general above him surrendered him --- its called the chain of command. The generals you cite as continuing to fight only did so until they got semi-official word that Lee had surrendered and then the local general arranged the local surrender with his Union counterpart. You are trying to make a big deal out of nothing --- the war was over because the Confederacy no longer had the supplies or men to continue the war.
Reality is he didn't have to surrender, he was a terrible leader, strategist and tactical leader. He could have taken the Capital in 1863, plus he was fighting his buddies from West Point and didn't want to win..
Custer was not present at the surrender signing despite paintings depicting him present. Custer attempted to make Longstreet surrender but Longstreet would have none of it.
Custer was present in the McLean house during Lee's surrender. Custer also initially accepted the initial white surrender flag from the Confederate forces. @@KurtG-nn2cz
@@FourthAmendment-yes Custer did not accept a surrender flag . It was a flag of truce.Although he is shown in paintings as being in the McLean parlor he was not.
Grant lost Cold Harbor about the same way Lee lost Malvern Hill and Picket's Charge. After the battle Grant did not retreat, he slipped around Lee's right flank, crossed the James River, and pinned Lee in Petersburg.
It doesn't matter, Lincoln was not able to carry out the full measure of the Emancipation Proclamation. Which was free Black slaves would have their own homeland.
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The day of surrender, Grant had 3,000 wagons filled with bacon, other meats and vegetables brought in to feed the almost starving confederates. He also went against the advice of his staff and allowed southerners to keep their rifles and horses stating, as hunters and farmers they'd need both to survive. He also didn't agree that General Robert E. Lee and his staff should be arrested and tried for Treason. As a born and reared southerner and member of the U.S. Army, retired Colonel, I've always admired Grant from his humanitarian action.
Another thing worth mentioning. According to historical accounts, Grant ordered his troops to refrain from any form of celebration or triumphalism. He believed it was inappropriate to gloat over a defeated foe and wanted to foster a sense of reconciliation, rather than further division.
Grant’s exact words, according to some sources, were:
“The war is over; the rebels are our countrymen again.”
Upon troops saluted the leaving Confederates with "Present, Arms "
The commanding officer was Joshua Chamberlain to give the salute order. The confederates had tears streaming down their face as did the Union soldiers!
I had heard some troops were allowed to keep their rifles in order to shoot a rabbit or squirrel for food on their trek home. Is this true?
My great grandfather and his brother both enlisted at the beginning of the war and served under Pickett. Both fought in the last engagement at Sailors Creek. What’s amazing is both survived the war and after surrender walked a short distance to home in Farmville Va
Were they even wounded?
Did you ever try to get their records from the US government? That really is an amazing story. Their chance of both surviving the entire war is practically nothing. Were they both farmers?
@@KR72534 I believe that I’ve retrieved all the records available. My great grandfather was a builder. His brother was a farmer. Thanks for asking
Surprised that Grant’s adjutant, LTC Ely Parker wasn’t mentioned. Parker, a full blooded Native American, was the man who wrote the draft of the terms of surrender. Parker had both a law degree and an engineering degree. It is said that when Lee departed the farm house, he told Parker that it was good to see one “true” American was present.
Lee had two supporting officers, LTC Talyor and LTC Marshall. Taylor was in charge of food and rations. Marshall was in charge of ammunition. Taylor was on leave to get married and was not present at the retreat or surrender. So, you could say love was in the way of the CSA army. When the supply trains came there was only ammunition and guns. So, they had to stop and look for food. It was a story I heard one time in Richmond. Thought it was a good point.
Rail cars with food were intercepted.
Taylor was back with the Army by the 7th….
@@Lord_HawHaw the damage was done. Food really was more important than anything
Taylor was with Lee from Third Petersburg through the end at Appomattox. His diary is one of the best accounts of the retreat westward and all of the problems the army faced. In fact he was charged by Lee with issuing her parole certificates to the men on April 12th so that the generals could go home.
The story about him being absent was a smear campaign that originated in the lost cause when Taylor ran for the senate as a Republican in the 1880s.
Atlanta falling to the Union left the C.S.A. without the ability to bring ammunition, food, and more troops. General Grant left Southern City’s burned downed to the ground. Why did the CSA not fight harder for New Orleans & the Mississippi River? They did not give thought to the need in transporting troops, supplies, and food. Most likely there was language from both Gen Lee & General Grant; which, were hammered out before the two met. Then the worst war in our history finally ended.
I believe Grant saved our country with his liberal conditions of surrender. As a long time OTR driver I have learned and been amazed at the noticeable differences between the people of each state and their politics. Some are nice and some not, just to give an example. I guess it shows the enormous size of our United States.
WOW - I learned a lot. Great documentary
You need 11 minutes to explain the situation. Why can't schools and schoolbooks explain it as well?
Because the schools want to tell a point of view, not the real facts...
This is exactly what I have taught in my 30 years of teaching American history, true for my colleagues as well. I actually hand out copies of the rations coupons etc. You really need to visit a real, modern classroom and not the made up one from you memories. You get an "F."
@@CityBoyinCountry so true. i was a high school math teacher (retired 2019). I have friends who haven't been in a school since the 70's but will opine endlessly about what is happening in schools now. funny and irritating....
You just weren't listening
@@CityBoyinCountry" made up "? Reality isn't made up, no matter how different each experience is. For instance, as a senior, i taught college classes because the professor was too busy staying relevant and published. The reality for " my students" wasn't made up.
My " real classrooms" sparked a career teaching doctors, while not a doctor myself. I then retired from a very successful medical consultancy I formed and ran.
Very good presentation. Side note: I lived in Appomattox for several years. Beautiful country there.
Terrible presentation.
@@crippledcrow2384 I agree, repetitive and redundant...
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Grant and Lee worked things out in the surrender terms. Longstreet knew that resistance was not an option so surrender was the best option. Grant followed Lincoln's wishes in bringing the nation back together.
6:28 point of order please. Confederate horses belonged to the soldier, not the confederate government. To make them leave personal property would be a violation conventions of war in place at the time.
😂 violation of conventions of war? What convention? Yankees burned homes and killed livestock and raped women and girls. What convention of warfare did the blue bellies ever follow?
Withholding horses or any personal property was a choice on Grants part. They could have piled it up and burnt it if they so decided. CSA troops had no say so in the terms, that was Grant's hospitality.
Isn’t that also true of their weapons?
@@philipliethen519 Possibly the officers' sidearms in some cases. Less universally the private soldier's weapons, usually issued by the mustering state. Stacking arms is at any rate a defining usage of surrender.
@ it was not. Only a few men could afford a personal weapon, and it was usually a pistol. As stated the officers kept their pistols. Some select sharpshooters did get weapons purchased, but those were from their commanders. By the end of the war, most of their muskets were shot out anyways and were likely destroyed. The south was falling apart and resupply was tough.
I was gong to add that some men did in fact keep their long guns. They simply left when they were told it was over. I wasn’t there, but I imagine they figured a man gotta eat and a rifle will help that out some.
I've read quite a bit about Grant and many people don't give him the credit he is due. In some ways, Lee was a better tactician than Grant, but Grant excelled in other ways and that is how he won his victories. He understood the importance of logistics. If you can't feed, clothe and arm an army, then you can't fight. In several instances, Grant made it a point to cut off Lee from needed supplies. Part of that was sending Sherman on his march through the South. Another way that Grant excelled was not being afraid to using his superior numbers to hammer out a victory, which he did time and again.
They had all fought together in the Mexican war. Everybody knew that Lee's strategy was to be super aggressive at all times. So the Union strategy was to put Lee in bad positions and provoke him to attack. It worked over and over again. If Lee's army had not been broken at Gettysburg it would have been eventually.
Tactics win battles. Logistics wins wars.
This started a very long reconciliation. Vicksburg did not restore 4th of July until the the 20th century.
That hasn't been finished yet. The North still has its foot on the Souths neck to this day. Monument removals, renaming forts. The oppression still goes on today.
1943 or 44 iirc
Gen.Lee work so hard after the war to bring north and the South together. He was a great man.
What did he do after the war to bring the North and South together again?
@tedosmond413
By speaking and explaining what we are are Americans
@@bonitareid2741 that's working so hard? where and when did he do all this speaking?
Lee flatly rejected the notion of continuing the struggle as a guerrilla war. He instructed his soldiers to return home and become good citizens. There is a story of a black man walking to the front of the Episcopalian church where the Lees attended. The black man knelt down at the alter to pray and Lee walked up, and knelt down beside him. I think Lee actions after the war did much to bring this country together.
@@mikethomas453 wow, so much hard work...
So one thing people forget about Grants surrender terms when they debate if he was lenient or not is that he was more or less told to offer most of those terms by the president. The only thing Grant added of his own volition was the part about the horses.
It was the war of "northern aggression ". I was raised in the north, but moved south as soon as I was old enough, very rarely do I visit the northern states.. Southerner by the grace of god....
Sorry to hear about your regional disease
Seriously? States Rights I bet and not slavery?
After his surrender at Appomattox, Robert E. Lee lived only another five years - the forgotten chapter of an extraordinary life. These were his finest hours, when he did more than any other American to heal the wounds between North and South
Lee's efforts to promote reconciliation after the war are highlighted as positive aspects of his legacy. However, many argue that his actions were more about preserving the honor of the South rather than addressing the injustices of slavery.
Grant came directly off the battle field and had no time to clean up. He came later because he had longer to travel.
That war was still being fought into the 1970's on some level or another
Going on today
Still is
Where?
@@stevemeisenheimermeisenhei4523 in people minds
It's still being faught today!
Grant was lenient at Vickburg also. So it was a pattern for him coupled with Lincoln's wish.
Lee and Grant are both graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, new York state. I do not know who is the upper classman or senior of the two. I believe most of the generals on both sides are west point graduate.
Lee graduated from West Point in 1829, Grant in 1843
@@kevinmeachem2138 so Lee already graduated from the Academy and Grant could still be in high school; and lee could already be a captain when Grant entered West Point.
@@kevinmeachem2138Grant graduated near the bottom of his class.
Lee was the superintendent at West point from 1852 until 1855.
My great grandfather fought in the 1st NH volunteer Cavalry under General George Armstrong Custer. He was 17.
Lee also said he did not want any monuments built to recognize the Confederacy because he believed that such memorials would hinder national reconciliation and perpetuate divisions between the North and South.
He said of them ...
"Best to not leave open the sores of war."
After Appomattox he told his men to
"Fold the flag and put it away or else it will be divisive."
It's amazing how many lost causes consider him to be a genius - yet they don't follow his advice. 🧐
Is that true?!?! If so , why did the daughters of the Confederacy so intent on putting UP monuments to keep the confederacy alive? You know , going against Lee’s wishes ?
The surrenders were entirely based on practical considerations.
The Confederate Government was so busy running from Richmond, they failed to even bother sending supplies has always been my understanding. The war was pretty much over, otherwise "Unconditional Surrender" Grant would have lived up to his name.
GRANT AND LEE WERE BOTH KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HONORABLE MEN. IT WAS TIME TO END THE CONFLICT AND DEVASTATION THAT SADLY CAME TO BOTH SIDES.
Forces in Texas did not cease hostilities until June 19th, the origin of the Juneteenth holiday
What year, it was still being fought in the 1970’s?
June 19, 1865 was when Yankees landed in Galveston and pronounced freedom to the slaves.
Slow communication? I think the Telegraph was widely used
@@rfreitas1949A piece of paper doesn’t have the same effect as armed men.
That was the emancipation proclamation finally arriving in Texas. Nothing to do with the surrender.
Alexander later admitted that a guerrilla war was wrong and would just prolong suffering - it's in his book
How do you fight a guerrilla wat without logistical support? Where does the ammunition, food, clothing come from?
My great grandfather Fredrick Bertram served in the GAR . People forget how the men in the field were most often fighting for local political perceptions and allegiances then for a national cause . Political thought was limited to the local press and local business interest . The telegraph was the state of the art national communication . Most lived and worked in their own back yard . Sad that people are still fighting over this very costly war . Grant was one of the sane leaders who saved countless lives and tried to unify the country , Sherman caused much vindictive destruction .
Not only did Confederate soldiers lack food and uniforms, as many as half of them did not have shoes. Many fought barefoot.
They fought for 16 months afterward. Good to remember.
Lee was in a hurry since Gaines Mill. He had 2 years to force a truce. Jefferson Davis prolonged the war. Lee himself was classy.
I suppose they might not teach this in high school now but I learned all of this in history class back in the 80s.
Apparently, a bunch of union soldiers with red boots killed a man’s wife and son. That man never surrendered and he got them union soldiers good.
Gonna make a good movie.
Grant and Lee were intelligent men who came to the most reasonable conclusion to reapair the Country.
I'm thinking guerrilla warfare would be worse. We learned that in Europe from many Civil and Revolt conflicts. The South would have been more devastated if it happen. But as Americans we prevented that and United Solidly.
Grant's terms were IAW Lincoln's instructions, "Let 'em down easy General, let 'em down easy".
I thought it was "Let em UP easy... "?
He really didn't
... they all just become sick of it until they're ready to go at it, again ....
Ga Boy checking in, the very idea of taking up arms against my countrymen is repugnant. The Govt is a different story
It is popular to denigrate Robert E. Lee today. Most people don't possess a tenth of the character to the man. He turned down a fortune from an insurance company that just wanted to use his name. Basically, he said his name was all he had left, and it wasn't for sale.
You're talking about the character of a man who owned human beings as property and was a traitor to his country?
Seeing the nation today it still going on.
Lee was a butcher. Brilliant on defense, but a butcher and lost 30% of his troops when on offense. Also, to this day, the African American slaves who carried the supplies for Lee's army and dug the defensive trenches were never recognized. Grant, on the other hand never suffered more than 20% loses. And Grant was on the offense!
Lee always left the battlefield with the Confederate wounded and dead on them.
Grant bears the nick name of "The Butcher", not of his enemies, but his own men through his war of attrition, which also won the day.
Lee was a graduate of West Point.
Lee and Grant were both graduates of West Point.
Second in his graduating class ?
Lee not turning to a Guerilla war stopped mischief suffering and made reconciliation easier. And there is no reason to think that, had the war continued, the whole of the Confederacy would have been subjected to total war of Sherman and Sheriden. Militarily the Union stuck to the Anaconda plan and methodically won for the start. The exception being the battles with the larger Confedeeate armies especially Lee’s.
don,t leave out the fact the war was fought in southern states, and the northern aggression had repeating rifles while the south had muzzle loaders
@ that was known prior to the war as well.
And only Confederates called it the War of Northern Aggression. Which it was not and Beauregard should never have fired on Sumner.
Hi guys! I am from Europa and I like all what is connected with the Old South, general Lee and Dixie people. I like to know, what fights and battles were continuing, after April 9th, 1865 to August 31, 1866, and where? Thanks!
Look up The battle of Columbus GA (April 16, 1865) &, The Battle of Palmito Ranch near Brownsville TX ( May 12-13 1865),
Also look up the CSS Shenandoah. If you like history you will get kick out of that one, other than pointing out that she started her mission to attack union ships the day Lee surrendered, and was crewed by mostly British navalmen, I will not spoil it for you any further. 😊
@@johndunn678 Thanks man! I will do it now! And, these battles are proves that American Civil war wasn't over when the Yankees laying us it was over. All that battles were after general Lee surrender, near Appomattox court house, on April 9th, 1865. PS: Thanks again, my man, and I was always know that the Yankees are just an layers. 🤠✌👍🤜✍
@@johndunn678 Oh, I will look also that, what you mention me about the CSS Shenandoah. And, yes, I like history so much! Especially so what is unknown to me and so hidden with Yankee lies, and propaganda, until to these days. I must say too, that I never heard before, for that battles. Because, it were never spoken in any today or past Yankee, or Hollywood movies, about Civil war. That movies always says to us just what was happened before Lee capitulation. But, never after! And, even about Lincoln death is for me so unknown historical material. Can you tell me where I can find some more information, about that historical event. And, free of Yankee lies, of course?! Thanks brother and Long live Old South! And RIP to brave fallen Confederate soldiers, between 1861 to 1866, in so bloody Civil war for Dixie freedom.
I am related to Union General Ely Parker, and also, Confederate General, Stand Watie... 👍🙏
I often muse on the idea that maybe the entire population would have been better had the confederacy won freedom and it existed today.
What reason, besides a fondness white supremacy, could you have for thinking the world might be a better place if an expansion-minded slave-owning empire had taken root in North America?
they did not sit at the same table
You're right. That famous painting memorialized the myth that they sat at the same table. The table that General Grant used to sign the terms of surrender Phil Sheridan paid Wilmer McLean $50 for it and then gave it to Custer's wife Libby. It's in the Smithsonian today.
@@FourthAmendment-yes in one of these shots it looks like Custer is standing there...was he there?
@@alpha-omega2362 Custer was there. He accepted the initial white flag of surrender from the Confederates. He took the gift table from Sheridan and swung it up in the saddle with him and rode away.
BTW, Sheridan did a decent thing by paying McLean for his table. Obviously the soldiers knew the significance of the surrender location, and a number of them basically started to help themselves to items which were in the front room. McLean couldn't do anything about it because they all had guns. What was he supposed to do? Ironically, McLean had lived in Manassas where the first battle of the civil war happened. (That's where McLean Virginia is located.) He reasoned that he might be able to move far enough away from battle sites that he would be free of any more war. Little did he suspect that the war would follow him and be literally brought to his front door in Appomattox Court House...
No new information here...
LOL the painting of Longstreet and Lee is way out of proportion.( approx 4 min into film) Longstreet is over six feet tall, and Lee is a short guy. The painting of Jackson and Lee ( Located at the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond) was painted using the distance between subjects. A study of the human structure of that period will reveal interesting facts unknown to the general public. Take a look at Gen Johnston's uniform and imagine him in it. Unreal.
Both Grant and Lee were honorable men who put the betterment of man above the cause. Had Lee took to gorilla warfare, the fight would have extended well beyond what the Civil war did. Even today, Southern Pride is Strong and it only lead to the betterment of our nation!
My .02 from a Yankee (by Birth).
Can't agree about Lee. He knew secession was treasonous, yet went along with it and fought as hard as he could to keep slavery alive. Not much "betterment of man" in his actions there. And surrender at Appomattox wasn't a hard choice...guerilla warfare wasn't a valid option, and if he hadn't surrendered, his army would have been absolutely crushed the next day, and he would have been a prisoner of war. He saw the chance to get off easy and took it.
Lee was a traitor pure and simple ... and a racial bigot .... and the South today ( I have lived here most of my life) is bigoted beyond belief and voted for Trump
I understand why but I don't understand why
The idea of punishment for a Confederate shows how far the country had come form the principles we were founded on. Our principles of government are that any people any where having the means may throw of a bad government. And this is not confined to the country as a whole. Any section may separate, form what ever new alliances they chose and form a government that suits them. WE believe this idea can set all men free.
Having the means is the key phrase in that sentence. Union holds the country together by the bayonet to this day.
@@crippledcrow2384 I agree. being from Texas, I at times hold the sentiment I am not a citizen by choice.
Does this mean my state can secede?
Whose idea? It was Nathan Bedford Forrest who killed the entire Centralia negro settlement after their capture, black and white, man, woman and child. It is the Confederates who proposed to execute any officer captured in command of black troops and enslave any black troops captured regardless of their previous free status under law, theirs included. As always, Democrats propose to indict enemies for what the enemies weren't doing and they themselves avowed intention to do, given the chance. Not punishing the defeated Confederates was remarked on with wonder by the potentates of Europe, and demonstrates who carried forward the principles of the founding. What the Confederates would have done if they prevailed we know not, but the indications were bad.
@@philipliethen519 What i find interesting is an amendment was made to end slavery but no amendment addressing secession was made. So every state still has that right. However, there would have to be a large gathering of all the evidence on the right of secession. Three of the constitutional ratification documents declare that right, 2 of them simply on the basis of the people being unhappy. Davis was never tried for treason because he made it known his defense would be based on the right of secession.
I just want to tell you guys, that similar situation was in Europa, after WW2. Because, capitulation of the German forces, on 8th of May, 1945, was also just symbolic end of WW2, in Europa. Some Axis armies were surrendering later, between 9th and 25th of May, 1945. And, even that wasn't all! In Germany, the Guerilla war was continuing until May, 1949. In some parts of Europa, who were before"the end" parts of the Axis power countries, the little or Guerilla war continuing until early 1960s, like in Ukraine, Baltic states, Balkan peninsula, ect. And, even after that, the resistance against occupation continuing in years 1953, East Germany, Berlin, 1956, Hungary, Budapest, 1968, Czechoslovakia, Prague, 1972, Yugoslavia, 1980s, Poland and finally 1989, Germany, Berlin and all rest of Europa, against the winner of WW2 or the USSR. So, the end of the WW2 or the American Civil war is a relative sense and even false today. I think that WW2 didn't finish in Europa in May, 1945 or on the Pacific, against Japan, in September, 1945. The same is with American civil war! We listen the Yankee propaganda about 160 years in North America or 80 years in Europa. The real truth about these historical wars is so different, in reality. Be saluted, guys, and write if you got to tell me something about all that!Thanks and God bless the Old South, and Europa too!
It has been said that C.S. Shenandoah was still attacking and sinking U.S. whaling ships near Alaska as late as June, '65...
The correct decisions were made at Appomattox Court House.
in my pursuit of ancestry I came to learn that a distant cousin of mine Ellison Hatfield was an Officer in General Lee's army of Norther Virginia he was of the Hatfield's from Hatfield McCoy war , as for myself I never surrendered I am Confederate
Well said..... said by a Yankee.
this is wonderful stick to it like I do
so everyone knows General Lee showed up in a neat clean uniform , that uniform was cleaned and pressed by one of General Lee's freed slaves which he never bought but inherited when his Father-in-law passed , that former slave stayed with Lee all through the war as a free will of his own also General Lee freed his slaves 2 years before the Civil War begin
If there were untold facts ....how could we know them today ??? Never bring passed down to next generation ....I hate these narrators expecting none of us to have brains that function
Nothing new here!
I certainly stand to be corrected as I am no expert however anything I have ever read indicates that Grant showed up approximately 30 minutes after Lee showed up. Again I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but 30 minutes does not seem to be hours to me. When you start out an article with the first item you mention being What I consider to be at the least an unintentional falsehood, How could I possibly believe anything you say afterwards. I simply can't.
Also hardly ever does anyone mention that Pres Lincoln’s son was present!
Real history? They don't want you to know real history 😊
Who are they? How do you know who they are? How do we know that you're us and not them?
@aaronfleming9426 Who is this we 💩? Do you have a mouse 🖱 in your pocket
We Could Not go in that house!
The original house burned down. What remains is a recreation.
I've been in the house
Why didn't Lee bring Jeff Davis into the discussion? There was no surrender by the government.
Because he only represented the military, not the government. Davis was the representative of the government.
@crippledcrow2384
If he had brought in a high government official, the surrender would have halted fighting on all fronts and eased the process of reconciliation.
That's not how the chain of command works.
@@digitalnomad9985 Lee was only in command of his army, and had no authority to act for the government. In a similar reverse situation, the Confederates sent a peace commission to talk to Grant in the months before the surrender. They tried to negotiate a peace treaty for the Confederacy, and Grant, in essence, said he had no power to speak for the US government, only his own command.
the CSA had no government recognized by the USA. Therefore no surrender by the government was needed, required or possible.
The Northern Forces were hammered from all sides, and they ran out of resources
Not at all
Huh?
Lincoln was adamant that the authority of the commanders in the field was limited to the surrender and disbandment of the Confederate forces. All questions concerning the future were reserved for the President. Johnson stuck to this position after Lincoln was assasinated. It is the reason why the original terms between Sherman and Johnston were rejected, terms which would have included the surrender of all remaining Confederate forces in the field. Johnson's authority was derived from the presence of Confederate Sec. of War Breckinridge's presence during the first negotiations.
Whether the protections afforded to paroled prisoners extended beyond the cessation of hostilities is debatable. Grant initially argued it did in connection with the possible prosecution of Lee. Others disagreed. Whether Grant would have taken this position if Lincoln had lived is unknown.
One reason not mentioned why Johnson delayed declaring the end of the rebellion was legal. The continued existence of the rebellion extended powers that had been granted to the administration (or assumed by them) to deal with the rebellion.
Maybe Lee only surrendered the Virginia army . The other CSA armies kept fighting the communication was poor in those days
Ah that is the rub
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Lincoln was committed to reconciliation. I am sure Grant's terms came from Lincoln.
IF the South had continued to fight, Lincoln's assassination would have ended
ideas of peaceful reconciliation.
His death would have filled the hearts of Northerners with revenge, I think.
IF the North had wreaked vengeance on the South,
who knows what direction our country would have taken after the war.
It might have been ugly.
"DEO VINDICE"...
I enjoy studying history as well as my family's history. My great-great-grandfather, William Bob story fought in the 48th Alabama under Long Street. He fought the duration of the war and laws brigade which was part of long streets army. Had it not been for Long Street as Lee surrendering at Appomattox, I likely would not be here. Bob Story was listed as a prisoner of war at Appomattox Virginia. He was paroled with the rest of Lee's army. He walked all the way back to Alabama. Family history says he suffered from what is now called. PTSD, was not a very good provider for his family. However, my ancestors survived and here I am. To really look at what all of our ancestors went through, both North and South, which by the way I had ancestors that fought on both sides, if we leave politics out of it, we can really see what great people we descended from. Resourceful people, people who overcome great hardships. In those days there was no government assistance. All these men on both sides went home and lived their lives, and many were the grandfathers of the world war II soldiers.
You keep using the term “Resistance” or “Resisted” I wonder if that's the proper term for the aggressor in this war. There were about half a dozen attacks on government facilities such as armories before the attack on Fort Sumter. The North didn't start the war. In fact there were not two sides until the southern states seceded. The word “Resistance” implies(if not thru definition but connotation) someone fighting for a noble cause. Greed and the wish to enslave people for profit falls a little short of a noble cause.
You have fallen for the old saw that all the south fought for was slavery. This is far from the whole truth.
Lee did not surrender to Grant. He thought Grant was a blacksmith, and he just handed him his sword to sharpen it.
Hahaha. You are so funny 😢
Longstreet had a history of being wrong way more than he was right. HE was by no means a tactician. He like grant only knew how to through a mass of men at a situation,
It was not Long Street but rather it was another General named Albert Pike
What about pike
the yankees fought for power and money; plain and simple.
They fought for the preservation of the Union. The lost cause continue to try to change history for their benefit.
@@billyrodriguez1878All I know is if they invaded my land I would have fought for the south
@@billyrodriguez1878they fought for big government and to undo the results of the American revolution.
@@vjiori The South was always more authoritarian and socially stratified than the North, essentially a garrison state against servile insurrection, and became even moreso during the war. Every measure for which Lincoln was pilloried by the revisionist, the suspension of habeas corpus, conscription, etc. and more he did not implement, was implemented by the Confederate government first. To pretend that the South was a champion of human rights is the diametric opposite of the truth. That all men are created equal is the founding principle of the American Union.
The Civil War was the last battle of the Revolution.
It is unfortunate that the Union wasn't more harsh.
Yep, well they are making up for it now.
@billyray9423 How do you figure?
At this point, I am inclined to agree
Lee did die 1000 deaths in persisting in fighting a lost cause. The deaths were not his but his men's.
In your series on what happened after the Civil War, I suggest that you cover how the South negated reconstruction policies. The Union may have won the 1st Civil War, the War Between the States, but the South won Reconstruction, the 2nd Civil War.
The main Union goal was preserving the Union. The main Confederate goal (as stated by Confederate leaders again and again and enshrined in the Confederate constitution) was the preservation of slavery.
@@digitalnomad9985 preservation and expansion
My 2x Paternal Great Grandfather Mounterville Woodard was with the Army of N Va. and present at the surrender. He was a Ferrier/ Blacksmith and after the war lived out his life in North Central Arkansas.
Who were the generals who continued fighting after Lee surrendered? Everyone was obliged to continue fighting until his commanding officer informed him that a higher officer had surrendered him and his fellows. No senior could surrender unless he had no other choice (ie Vicksburg) or the general above him surrendered him --- its called the chain of command. The generals you cite as continuing to fight only did so until they got semi-official word that Lee had surrendered and then the local general arranged the local surrender with his Union counterpart. You are trying to make a big deal out of nothing --- the war was over because the Confederacy no longer had the supplies or men to continue the war.
Reality is he didn't have to surrender, he was a terrible leader, strategist and tactical leader. He could have taken the Capital in 1863, plus he was fighting his buddies from West Point and didn't want to win..
And how, pray tell, would Lee have taken the capitol in 1863? And if he didn't want to win, why did he keep fighting?
ignorant
@persimmontea6383 yes Lee was very ignorant on what he could have done
South got there first with mostest but it didn’t last. The north came solid in time.
So did Hitler, but it didn't last.
Custer accepted Gen. Lee's sword until Grant showed up.
Stop it. Just please stop the stupidity
Custer was not present at the surrender signing despite paintings depicting him present. Custer attempted to make Longstreet surrender but Longstreet would have none of it.
Custer was present in the McLean house during Lee's surrender. Custer also initially accepted the initial white surrender flag from the Confederate forces. @@KurtG-nn2cz
@@FourthAmendment-yes Custer did not accept a surrender flag . It was a flag of truce.Although he is shown in paintings as being in the McLean parlor he was not.
Lee was known for his way of fighting, no matter the cost of lives. His soldiers, were not a consideration for Lee.
This is all BS !!! We were not told our real history !!!
Old Jeff Davis was wearing a dress when he was captured! He was pretending to be a woman just traveling with a group of civilians
A lie that has been repeated enough that most believe it now., but still a lie.
"....the South shall rise AGEEYAN !!!...YEE-HA !!!" 😂
..... Only to get smacked down again...... 😂
It was TAYLOR, not taylor, really, know your facts or proclaim your ignorance
Do you mean Tayloe?
Chill man
General Robert E. Lee stood taller in defeat than Grant or any other general did in victory.
Lol. Ridiculous. Lee was greatly overrated. Do some research. He blew Gettysburg like a rookie.
LEE WHIPPED grant at the BATTLE OF COLD HARBOUR IN WHICH Grant RETREATED FROM LEE.
To whom it may concern thank you for the like.
who won ?
Grant lost Cold Harbor about the same way Lee lost Malvern Hill and Picket's Charge. After the battle Grant did not retreat, he slipped around Lee's right flank, crossed the James River, and pinned Lee in Petersburg.
A fine piece of history that is also irrelevant.
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Lee also didn't know the British was fixing too help with supplies ....
No other country ever recognized the csa except the CSA. 😂
Quite simply, at this stage of the war, the British did not want to risk losing Canada.
THE SOUTH WON POLITICALLY BECAUSE EVERY FORMER CONFEDERATE STATE STILL HAS STATES RIGHTS TODAY.
Interesting take.
The South was fighting against state’s rights. They wanted to be able to override free state’s rights to exclude slavery in their territory.
To whom it may concern thank you for the like.
Good point
@@doitdoitright5916 thanks
It doesn't matter, Lincoln was not able to carry out the full measure of the Emancipation Proclamation. Which was free Black slaves would have their own homeland.