not many parts involved, diesel, no ignition, just needs a fuel supply of some sort , some oil and grease, blank shot ty shell, water to leak out the head(and cool it) and of course someone who knows how to use it
You are absolutely right. These machines were a replacement for work horses and considered advanced for their time. People considered themselves lucky to have one.
To start the Marshall a smouldering piece of special paper, containing saltpeter, is inserted into the cylinder head by means of the special screw-in holder in the cylinder head. The engine is then turned over with a starting handle placed in the starting dog on the flywheel. This is aided by the decompression valve, which decompresses the engine for anything up to 6 revolutions (generally 3 revolutions is sufficient - a spiral groove on the perimeter of the flywheel is used to determine the number of revolutions and position before top dead center where the decompressor mechanism disengages and permits compression) to allow the flywheel to gain speed and inertia to turn the engine through compression, and get the engine to fire. Depending on the condition and mood of individual tractors, it is possible to get a thorough workout starting the Marshall. A cartridge starting system is also fitted to the tractor. A shot-gun type cartridge is loaded into a breech on the engine's intake system. The smouldering paper is placed in the cylinder head, and the cartridge is fired by tapping the protrusion pin with a hammer. This puts a charge into the bore, sending the piston through its stroke, bursting into life. This method, however, deposits carbon which often causes jamming of the decompression valve if cartridges are regularly used. It also puts significantly more strain on the engine. Later versions of the Field-Marshall had more sophisticated starting systems available - electric starters were optional on the Series 3As.
One of the first tractors to ever be fitted with an engine working purely and reliably on the Diesel principle. The burning paper the man threads into the engine before startup is simply an early ancestor to the modern glow plug, and the gun powder makes the engine crank itself without a starter. Pure enginouity before electricity became a necessity. Is it safer? Maybe not. But it sure is so much more satisfying to watch start up than a modern diesel.
MrNerviodelvolcan It does look like the one track there is missing a link on it, however, interesting information there on how he starts up this machine and drives it around.
That expansion chamber is nothing like the one on the model I knew on the farm. It has TWO cones, and worked like a charm. That one looks as though it has been shortened. Also, you showed a shot shell holding steel shot. Only a fool would try to start a diesel engine using a loaded cartridge.
Now days, when everything is digital and in the cloud, can't smell, touch or feel, nice to see an old clunker, noisy, smelly hunk of steel of tracktor moving around. Reminds me of the movie Logan's run, an old man appears at the end of the movie, young people never seen one before, 'cause they had to die at 33. Here the tracktor is the old man.
I can just imagine how wonderful this machine was to workers when it first was new. Think of all the extra work you could get done with it! This is the first wick style machine I've seen started. It was really nice. Were the governors always as sensitive as this one? Bars stop leak in the radiator. That fixed a Cat 30 leak I had. Show someone young how to run this machine and will it to him.
Classroom questions: 1 - What is the burning wick used for?2 - What is the component that he screws the wick into?3 - how does the shotgun cartridge start the engine turning?
The burning wick is like a glow plug in a modern diesel engine, the shotgun type cartridge when fired compresses the air in the pipes to turn the engine over much like when you roll start a car, the reason it was used was because batteries were very large and cumbersome at the time and would have weighed far too much to be portable and practical.
burning wick = glowplug. He screws it into the head (2 stroke, no valves). The shell provides the pressure to turn the engine over quick enough for the burning wick and compression to ignite the injected fuel.
The engine is a "hot-bulb" or "semi-diesel" using the wick to heat up a sealed protrusion in the combustion chamber. Compression ratios are lower than in a true diesel. Further to the very informed answers above..
thats a coffman starter, blank shell spins a small turbine to turn the engine over. the movie “ flight of the phonix staring jinny stewart featured this to start their airplane engine
Amazing start up process and that guy knew just what to do for it. I couldn't tell if he was starting a steam, gas, or diesel lol. Might have to watch it twice
I don't understand how you get that engine running (I mean, the process; not that I thought it wasn't going to start). But HOW it started. Man, I've never seen an engine fire up so fast and flawless like this one
What a great way to start an engine. Sometimes going back in time like that is a nice diversion from all the latest and greatest technology. Keep it simple and enjoy.
Oh wow it must be 45 years since I`ve seen one of these run My Grandad had one he owned an Oliver Dealership back in the early -40s -right up to late 60s his was used to run a saw mill .
Always a good idea to be near the decompressor cable after starting so that you can catch the revs if the governor is hung up from sitting or if it's simply knackered like this one. Lovely shock absorber engineering on the operator's seat, must be a joy in the rough!
Yep, you are right. My dad farmed for 30 years with a tractor made in 1948. There was no fancy air conditioned cab or stereo, but it was so simple it could be fixed by the average farmer.
That is awesome..i love old tractors and in my opinion they are worth a hell of a lot more than new ones..i mean think about it..all the news ones beak down, blow engines..but look at that one..still running strong..no electronics or any of that crap..that old rusty tractor..id pay more for it than I would a new one..i love those
No mate that is NOT a 'shotgun shel!! ,its a 12 gauge CARTRIDGE packed with a measured charge to turn the flywheel! no wads, shot etc, put one in there & REAL trouble some fools have done it! Note he put in a "starter paper" to give a hot spot , like a glow plug.. ..Actually many things start by cartridge , helicopters, many jet aircraft, US A vought corsair too I believe , I think the marshal system was rare for agricultural tractors ,, note the runaway tendency!
I'm no field marshal expert, but what I believe happens is the flame provides a hot spot for ignition. Once the engine is running residual heat plus compression keeps things going, but it needs that flame to start. The shotgun shell then acts as a means to turn the engine over, by flooding it with gas much the same way it actually firing would. It's typically used for tractors that don't want to start with the crank, but in some cases the shotshell start is useful when crank access is limited.
+Lars many years ago I saw a WW 2 movie where some British flyers were trying to start a radial engine plane using this method. They were up the last shell, I don't remember if they got it started. I always wonder about this method and thanks to you you satisfied my me. I only wish that I be able watch again
Yes they are, but the makers factory has gone now thanks to Russia ,Marshall's took a massive order for all their types of machines they made and sent them to Russia and never got paid a penny, this is what buggered Marshall's up.
And that should surprise you? They still owe the US billions for materials from WWII that they will never pay! Not much as far as a honest race of people. The Allies saved them from having to learn to speak German and then they turned on them like a Viper!
my question is how did somebody come up with the idea of using a shotgun blank to start an engine in the first place? I know inspiration comes from strange things but what the hell inspired this? pretty awesome stuff.
If you don't get this starting sequence exact the alarm goes off and on board computer controlled security informs local police that it is being stolen and sends them GPS coordinates, then, it shuts down all essential systems until the secret password is entered to reset the system. These tractors were ahead of their time.
Excuse me for being ignorant, but when he uses a shotgun cartridge to start the engine, what happens to all the contents of the cartridge? Just curious. Many thanks for the upload and good luck to all your members for many years to come. A Happy New Year to you all. Greg
I love to see old technology like this kept alive. Good video.
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I really appreciate people keeping old machinery running and in operating condition.
not many parts involved, diesel, no ignition, just needs a fuel supply of some sort , some oil and grease, blank shot ty shell, water to leak out the head(and cool it) and of course someone who knows how to use it
Better than a mulle, but just barely 😂 @@johnkufeldt3564
poor old girl ,needs some plates and grousers for Christmas. Wide tracc version too. Very good to see ,thank you for the video
You are absolutely right. These machines were a replacement for work horses and considered advanced for their time. People considered themselves lucky to have one.
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80+ years and still going hard that's amazing
To start the Marshall a smouldering piece of special paper, containing saltpeter, is inserted into the cylinder head by means of the special screw-in holder in the cylinder head.
The engine is then turned over with a starting handle placed in the starting dog on the flywheel. This is aided by the decompression valve, which decompresses the engine for anything up to 6 revolutions (generally 3 revolutions is sufficient - a spiral groove on the perimeter of the flywheel is used to determine the number of revolutions and position before top dead center where the decompressor mechanism disengages and permits compression) to allow the flywheel to gain speed and inertia to turn the engine through compression, and get the engine to fire. Depending on the condition and mood of individual tractors, it is possible to get a thorough workout starting the Marshall.
A cartridge starting system is also fitted to the tractor. A shot-gun type cartridge is loaded into a breech on the engine's intake system. The smouldering paper is placed in the cylinder head, and the cartridge is fired by tapping the protrusion pin with a hammer. This puts a charge into the bore, sending the piston through its stroke, bursting into life. This method, however, deposits carbon which often causes jamming of the decompression valve if cartridges are regularly used. It also puts significantly more strain on the engine.
Later versions of the Field-Marshall had more sophisticated starting systems available - electric starters were optional on the Series 3As.
Thanks for the information, I was wondering what he was doing. It looked like some kind of voodoo ritual. Hahah
Modern smokeless starting charges would probably not have that problem.
I love old stuff like this
pretty awesome, seems the older stuff is made soo much better.
One of the first tractors to ever be fitted with an engine working purely and reliably on the Diesel principle.
The burning paper the man threads into the engine before startup is simply an early ancestor to the modern glow plug, and the gun powder makes the engine crank itself without a starter.
Pure enginouity before electricity became a necessity.
Is it safer? Maybe not.
But it sure is so much more satisfying to watch start up than a modern diesel.
awesome how this guy have kept this beautiful piece of equipment alive after all those years
MrNerviodelvolcan It does look like the one track there is missing a link on it, however, interesting information there on how he starts up this machine and drives it around.
You got to be kidding me! That's how that old crawler starts? Fine piece of old school machinery.
my opa had one of these on the farm he grew up on so cool seeing one run after hearing about it thanks guys.
That expansion chamber is nothing like the one on the model I knew on the farm. It has TWO cones, and worked like a charm. That one looks as though it has been shortened.
Also, you showed a shot shell holding steel shot. Only a fool would try to start a diesel engine using a loaded cartridge.
gotta love anything that starts using a hammer!!!
geonerd1000 don't forget about the shot shell.
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Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice crawler. Love old machines
That Ol sound better than modern music =)
Hell yes
What a beast. No wonder old timers were always missing fingers and stuff years ago.
+Konstantinopoljski AND! .. it will ever start same way - after an EMP/Atom-Bomb will fallen ;o)
bandsaw strikes again - people just wood do it.
What a labor intensive starting process, but it does seem to run good and it actually moves. Very cool.
Love seeing the old iron still running, that engine sounded great !.
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Now days, when everything is digital and in the cloud, can't smell, touch or feel, nice to see an old clunker, noisy, smelly hunk of steel of tracktor moving around.
Reminds me of the movie Logan's run, an old man appears at the end of the movie, young people never seen one before, 'cause they had to die at 33.
Here the tracktor is the old man.
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I'm sure all engine looks like new inside ... 100 years old or more.
I love this!
Я такого чуда техники никогда не видел!!! Супер!!!
Technology takes thought not faith.
I can just imagine how wonderful this machine was to workers when it first was new. Think of all the extra work you could get done with it! This is the first wick style machine I've seen started. It was really nice. Were the governors always as sensitive as this one? Bars stop leak in the radiator. That fixed a Cat 30 leak I had. Show someone young how to run this machine and will it to him.
.Q
Это не первый виденный мной трактор, что заводится с патрона. Шикарная машина. Сколько лет прошло с того, как её выпустили, а она всё ещё на ходу.
Fantastic bit of machinery was great to see it start up and drive around , thanks enjoyed it a lot !
Classroom questions: 1 - What is the burning wick used for?2 - What is the component that he screws the wick into?3 - how does the shotgun cartridge start the engine turning?
The burning wick is like a glow plug in a modern diesel engine, the shotgun type cartridge when fired compresses the air in the pipes to turn the engine over much like when you roll start a car, the reason it was used was because batteries were very large and cumbersome at the time and would have weighed far too much to be portable and practical.
burning wick = glowplug. He screws it into the head (2 stroke, no valves). The shell provides the pressure to turn the engine over quick enough for the burning wick and compression to ignite the injected fuel.
The engine is a "hot-bulb" or "semi-diesel" using the wick to heat up a sealed protrusion in the combustion chamber. Compression ratios are lower than in a true diesel. Further to the very informed answers above..
thats a coffman starter, blank shell spins a small turbine to turn the engine over. the movie “ flight of the phonix staring jinny stewart featured this to start their airplane engine
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mi piace moltissimo è un pezzo storico ,eccezionale vederlo ancora in funzione ,,invidio il suo padrone e conduttore ,,,,,,
the wife shouts darling are you coming home and the husband is like yes I am full speed i wil be there in 2 to 3 hours ahhahah
Do all that when its 30 below out. Still very cool
I here you knocking but you can't come in. Fascinating amount of fiddling to get everything up and running.
Amazing start up process and that guy knew just what to do for it. I couldn't tell if he was starting a steam, gas, or diesel lol. Might have to watch it twice
Single cylinder, 6 litre, 2-stroke diesel. See also Field Marshall tractor.
A motor like this can run on anything that burns and in liquid form. Like diesel, petrol, oil, olive oil, butter, greese etc. :-)
andjack who says it needs to be liquid? I am sure that very fine hich quality coal dust will do the job, too!
switch55 As it said. It is diesel. The thing that is light up and inserted into the engine is something like a glowplug.
Great to see a rare vehicle running. Good to see also a good example with the ear protection.
I don't understand how you get that engine running (I mean, the process; not that I thought it wasn't going to start). But HOW it started. Man, I've never seen an engine fire up so fast and flawless like this one
a charge like a giant shotgun shell and the heated hot bulb start this thing. They weren't too worried about what got sucked into this monster. LOL !
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_bulb_engine
Андрей Андрей спасибо ^.^
Capt Larry It is in fact just a normal 12 gauge shotgun blank.
interesting, thanks Kris.
Very cool . I love it. Grew up next a guy who had a bunch of hit n miss motors he had in his yard he worked on .
Shot shell starting, thats very cool!
musisz
This starting system was also used on some early radial engines for startup.
ramairgto72
There is, of course, no shot in the cartridge, only powder. It's a blank.
What a great way to start an engine. Sometimes going back in time like that is a nice diversion from all the latest and greatest technology. Keep it simple and enjoy.
Thats crazy. Still easier to start than my leaf blower.
I am not sure about that
Now you see why those old farmers had to get up so early in the morning.
Put a little fuel directly into the carburetor and should make it a lot easier
I hope its not a diesel leaf blower.
E Cannon or a Poulen chainsaw
Этому тракторишке лет 150 не меньше, супер...
В два раза меньше.
What sorcery is this?
Jk
Lpllki
lol
Best comment I have ever heard!
Worthy of Catweazle!
Tony Curr
I love seeing old stuff like this still running
Like the way the operator flicks the decompression lever to eject the old cartridge. Cool!
Bellissimo video 🙋♂️ 😊 💚 🌈 👍👏👏👏
Oh wow it must be 45 years since I`ve seen one of these run My Grandad had one he owned an Oliver Dealership back in the early -40s -right up to late 60s his was used to run a saw mill .
I think maybe the ECU needs to be re-flashed, and maybe a nice set of rims.
I seriously doubt this even has an ECU
@@infinite0hacker447 That was a joke... comedy. yikes
@@TomsChevelle Ahh my bad
No electronic, no gadget, no plastic... Real tought machine.
The first video on TH-cam. Amazing
Always a good idea to be near the decompressor cable after starting so that you can catch the revs if the governor is hung up from sitting or if it's simply knackered like this one. Lovely shock absorber engineering on the operator's seat, must be a joy in the rough!
اللهم صل وسلم وبارك على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم آمين آمين آمين
Молодец Дедок!!!Реанимировал трактор времён Царя Гороха....
Yep, you are right. My dad farmed for 30 years with a tractor made in 1948. There was no fancy air conditioned cab or stereo, but it was so simple it could be fixed by the average farmer.
So men really DID ride dinosaurs! This man really knows how to massage these antiques. Nice work.
Это супер машина я токого запуска еще не видил.
That is awesome..i love old tractors and in my opinion they are worth a hell of a lot more than new ones..i mean think about it..all the news ones beak down, blow engines..but look at that one..still running strong..no electronics or any of that crap..that old rusty tractor..id pay more for it than I would a new one..i love those
No electronics and still runs like a champ. It's a shame that they don't make stuff like this anymore. Great video and unique old crawler
Incredible: Shotgun shell fired engine !!!!
No mate that is NOT a 'shotgun shel!! ,its a 12 gauge CARTRIDGE packed with a measured charge to turn the flywheel! no wads, shot etc, put one in there & REAL trouble some fools have done it! Note he put in a "starter paper" to give a hot spot , like a glow plug.. ..Actually many things start by cartridge , helicopters, many jet aircraft, US A vought corsair too I believe , I think the marshal system was rare for agricultural tractors ,, note the runaway tendency!
I'm no field marshal expert, but what I believe happens is the flame provides a hot spot for ignition. Once the engine is running residual heat plus compression keeps things going, but it needs that flame to start. The shotgun shell then acts as a means to turn the engine over, by flooding it with gas much the same way it actually firing would. It's typically used for tractors that don't want to start with the crank, but in some cases the shotshell start is useful when crank access is limited.
This is how engines should start! No fussing about with pull cords and kick starts, just bump the primer and away ya go!
THATS A BEAST, THEY DON'T MAKE EM LIKE THEY USED TO!
I love when diesel engines liked this is turning on slow rotation and then accelerates quickly. Its so amazing...
Wonder what year that thing is
god im glad i was born in the electric start and powershift era..Watching these old machines is great driving one would have been tough
I love the fact that I had no idea what they were doing to get this thing started or what any of the parts were that they were fiddling with.
Es algo fabuloso q personas se dediqn a cuidar estos aparatos q son parte de la historia en la agricultura
Excellent demonstration of the handling that tractors required in the years before mechanical governors became standard equipment.
Hej!
Tack för en fin visning av start av din maskin! :)
Älskar Tändkuleljud!
Old is gold.Thanks.
It sure makes you appreciate the development of modern engines!
Some WWII aircraft used a cartridge start.
Like the Typhoon. :-)
KraziIvan and the wildcat! :)
First time I've seen one of these. Great video. Thanks
No college degrees but they got shit done and designed everything with common sense !
Agreed but college degrees ain't a bad thing necessarily.
Cartridge starters were widely used in military piston engines in WW2. Look up Coffman starter.
+Lars many years ago I saw a WW 2 movie where some British flyers were trying to start a radial engine plane using this method. They were up the last shell, I don't remember if they got it started. I always wonder about this method and thanks to you you satisfied my me. I only wish that I be able watch again
+nacho elcorreano was probably flight of the Phoenix
Lars Brubæk yeah,some cough.
Да вот это аппарат , супер , очень старая техника ,а ещё заводится , и на ходу 👍👍👍
Built in my hometown of Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, UK.
It is a cool machine.
Yes they are, but the makers factory has gone now thanks to Russia ,Marshall's took a massive order for all their types of machines they made and sent them to Russia and never got paid a penny, this is what buggered Marshall's up.
And that should surprise you? They still owe the US billions for materials from WWII that they will never pay! Not much as far as a honest race of people. The Allies saved them from having to learn to speak German and then they turned on them like a Viper!
All it needs is that one track piece and its golden
I need one of these. I live in suburbia, it would drive the neighbours insane.
Beautiful sound of the engine. Love it!
Han er GO man!
Sverige velde bra!
very impressive, prett sure that was a regular shell and not a blank, says steel on it for the type of shot it has, if so where do the shot balls go?
+lyle davies Hollowed out shotgun shell, you pull the BBs out, and you essentially have a powerful blank.
One of the best machines ihave ever seen!
Loved it. Did not understand the flaming stick thing though.Seems rpm is a bit hard to control, she like to run away quick.
Супер! К своему стыду первый раз видел пороховой запуск!
She's a beauty! (almost 3 million views lol)
Cartridge start! Awesome! Beautiful machine!
häftigt! inget man plockar fram när man har bråttomt iväg, var hittar du startpatronerna?
Фантастический пепелац! :о)
my question is how did somebody come up with the idea of using a shotgun blank to start an engine in the first place? I know inspiration comes from strange things but what the hell inspired this? pretty awesome stuff.
most awsome start up process ever seen by me
thats awsome. i love how some of the old designs were back then!!
Muy muy bueno espectacular hermoso sonido.....
Damn that seat looks comfortable!!!!
This is one of Fowler's converted Field Marshall crawlers?
Single cylinder, 2 stroke diesel engine?
Remember '' The Flight of the Phoenix''...one shell left...brilliant video. Thank you. Well done.
So this a 1920s/30s. Fowler Track Master? A converted Field Marshall tractor.
Single cylinder, 2 stroke diesel engine?
These engines known to us locals as pop pops.
rick hctep xD
Where and when were these weird and wonderful machines manufactured?
Lincolnshire, England, 1945-57.
hughvane
Gainsborough, to be precise. My daughter and grand daughter live on the site of the old factory!
simple: you are the big boss...... tank for the old machin, my passion...
*what WW1 generals say when they see this*-this will help us win the war to end all wars!
what a gorgeous old machine this is
If you don't get this starting sequence exact the alarm goes off and on board computer controlled security informs local police that it is being stolen and sends them GPS coordinates, then, it shuts down all essential systems until the secret password is entered to reset the system. These tractors were ahead of their time.
Track sections must be hard to find.
Does it use Black Powder or smokeless in shotshell?
Excuse me for being ignorant, but when he uses a shotgun cartridge to start the engine, what happens to all the contents of the cartridge? Just curious. Many thanks for the upload and good luck to all your members for many years to come. A Happy New Year to you all. Greg