Honestly I think he's an awesome example of how who people are is circumstantial. At his core, he's extremely driven, self aware and cares about people. But due to circumstances such as his environment and how he was raised, those potentially good traits were twisted into Frank as we know him.
@@iamsultana I said at his core. If you pay attention to his actions throughout the series, he obviously cares. He just has a different way of showing it and like you said when it comes to his addiction vs people, the addiction wins.
John smith.... Incorrect... He does have his moments and ill admit he is well-adjusted to the life he lives but he is a helpless addict and too weak/selfish to look at himself honestly... Fiona has been on the other side of this conversation over and over.
@@IDewWork he placed a captial "I" instead of a lowercase "l"... had he wrote lip .. then it'd be correct. Its not a big deal so relax.. i just auto-corrected him.. now im auto-correcting you 😅😎✌🏽
Someone should make a parody of this scene for coffee drinkers. "A good coffee drinker lets it fuel him and focus his energy for the day. A bad coffee drinker gets wired and anxious"
Yeah. Between Frank and Fiona working together and bonding and her realizing she does have a problem and needs to get help-all with the backdrop of the blackout, it fires on all cylinders.
Cody James ew, what? Alcoholics don’t need the excuse of “I’m a good drunk” to continue drinking, tf? And either way, there’s no such thing as a good alcoholic or bad one. It’s all just shit.
This was the first moment Frank realized Fiona was becoming like him. Later in the episode, when she yells and calls everyone who marched a buncha pussies, Frank isn't fazed. He simply looks at her and shakes his head in sadness. Because he did the same thing before. He went through the same anger and emotional destruction when he, himself, began his descent into "rock bottom" when he was younger. Frank was hoping that Fiona would escape all this, and that she'd never end up at rock bottom, but she did. Later in the next episode, she wakes up in her abandoned apartment building, vomiting and in extreme pain, from an intense bender. A life threatening bender. The ones suicidal people, alcoholics, and hobos go through. The ones that strips away your innocence and makes you realize you're nothing anymore. When Fiona makes it back, she's visibly shaken. To her core. That's why, when Fiona goes to AA, gets a job, gets her shit together, and leaves town, Frank is crying. You can see his eyes watering. He's in shock that she not only pulled through somehow after hitting rock bottom, but she's actually going to start a new, better life. She's gonna make it out of the Southside. She's actually doing it. Frank never could do it, and no one in the entire Gallagher family tree ever could either. Frank's mother, Monica's parents, none of them. That's why, when Fiona is leaving, Frank tells her, for the first time ever, "you did good". He acknowledges that she raised the kids herself and, in case this is the last time he sees her, wanted to make sure she knew how he was thankful for that. That was his way of acknowledging his abandoning of the kids, and that he's sorry he wasn't strong enough. The mortality he was talking about in this clip isn't just about how we're living, sentient beings; he meant what it feels like when you hit rock bottom like he's done before. What it feels like to live there. You can only escape sober, but it hurts too much when your sober, so u just stay drunk forever. It kills your hope and convinces you that youncan never escape. Even 6 kids needing his care couldn't convince Frank otherwise. That was the Mortality Frank meant.
Did none of you really pay attention during their final goodbye? Frank's complete shittiness came through one last time. Sure, he told Fiona she did well but immediately follows it with a condescending, "you helped out". In real life, it doesn't matter whether a person cares or not deep down, all that truly matters are words and actions. Maybe Frank really was heartbroken that Fiona left but he still couldn't say that and just acknowledge all she did for the Gallagher clan, not even as she was leaving. So, no, I don't think Frank was happy for Fiona's finally moving on from Chicago, more that he was upset that she was leaving him in particular. Like a true narcissist, its only ever about Frank.
@@tobeornottobe5611 I think he said that because he was finally sober and he was trying to deflect the shame. Like when Fiona responds to it saying she did it all, he says "whatever helps you sleep at night" which he is likely saying to himself
It's fucking scary when frank is actually right on shameless. The moments when he gives slightly good advice or calls someone out on their personal issues is scary because he's the absolute best example of what NOT to be as an adult, parent, and person in general. If frank gallagher has to tell you to get your shit together you're SERIOUSLY fucking up.
Moments like these show Frank actually cares but its never really enough to really help. Like i appreciate him trying to convince her of her problem and even staying by her the whole time (when she woke up drunk in a house) but since he has huge issues himself its never enough to help. Like telling lip to keep drinking knowing he pretty much lost all his opportunities cause of it and same for Fiona.
Ehhh....I attribute his pent-up rage and abandonment issues for his troubles more than anything. It's why he picks unstable girlfriends, confides in Youens and then lashes out after being betrayed by him, sleeps with Helene and then sneaks into her house to sleep after she's renounced her relationship with him. But he is the one making the most consistent effort to maintain stability at present. Just some things he's never gonna get over no matter what he pledges....nor should he.
@@michaelbyrne5606 still all those issues led him to being an alcoholic so its still not fine for him to drink now. Thats his negative coping mechanism. Many addicts abuse drugs cause of some other underlying issues but it still doesnt change that they're addicts.
ninjastorm540 Some addictions can be empowering if lovingly applied and monitored...problem is, most people don’t know what the best things to do with that power are. Whatever renders you helpless should be weaned off of...but it’s also helpful to recognize what hinders you when you’re just going through day-to-day. I dunno, friend. I’m an aspie with manic depressive tendencies....moscatos are cheaper and more effective than Prozac.
Frank loves Fiona the most, He would never let her be an alcoholic. Plus he loves his family even if it appears he doesn’t. He’d be a bad drunk without them. He knows that his family relies on Fiona. He’d never watch her go down without saying anything.
I'm not gonna lie, this scene helped me realize I was becoming a bit of a bad drunk. I started to not live in the moment because I constantly obsessed over how others "did me wrong" in the past. I allowed prior pain and anguish to dictate present engagements and opportunities. Then I watched this scene and had this incredible epiphany. I swear I replayed it at least ten times. Now, I no longer drink to harbor resentment. I drink to have fun, let loose, and shoot my shot in this world. The most important change for me has been the ability to detach myself from outcomes. I needed to understand and accept the fact that things wouldn't always "go my way," and that isn't because something cruel or nefarious was working in the shadows to undermine me. If things work out for me in the end, then that's great! If not, then I'm happy I tried.
I am a loyal Shameless fan and stuck with it even after it started to lose its way after Season 5. That noted, the last half of Season 9 really brought it back to its roots-and Emmy is SUCH AN AMAZING ACTRESS. She deserved an Emmy for her performance as Fiona.
This scene hit me watching them two talk about the thing that destroyed their family the most. In Fionas eyes you can see her realising just now how smart her father really is, but obviously still ignorant about existence.
Tbh it's some good advice. This scene actually got me thinking about my own drinking habits because I used to be a bad drunk. Dealing with a lot of shit, drinking to forget then being a complete asshole to the people around me while I heavily hinted at the problems I was dealing with as a drunken cry for help. The advice of learning to coast is actually really good. It's easy to be in a bar and just get drink after drink instead of resting inbetween, letting yourself coast and enjoy everything else that's going on besides getting another full glass in your hand. It might be coming from Frank but it is legitimately good advice.
He made a lot of sense..I know someone that will drink just to relive the past always talking about the past and I know a few who drinks and loves to have fun and another who drinks that is angry...another who drinks and starts to cry..it’s crazy what liquor can do to your mind lol
I been acting just like fiona,Im so embarrassed im only 22 and ever since my grandmas passing 3 years ago that was it ,havent stop drinking since ,dont even know how the 3 years went by so quick, i went to my first a.a meeting the other day and ive been sober for 4 days now only :( i was crrryying watching these last couple epeisodes
Cant blame you for your addiction. Lifes hard but it's good to know that you recognized you had a problem and are doing something about it. I hope you pull through and get over your addiction💯 dont know how much this can help but I highly recommend meditation. Your mind is the most powerful thing. And if you can master your thoughts u can do anything.
@@JuanMartinez-tr8ww wow i love this comment ,thanks so much ,im definitely going to look into that, I love anything good for our mental,much appreciated💙💙💙
I choked when Frank said “your a bad drunk”😂 Also when Frank said “when you get drunk, you get mean” does anyone get a flash of Daddy’s Home 2 when the stepdad said it about the girl?🤣
As a drinker.. I cried a little when he mentions about a bad and a good drunk... I didn’t realize that about myself but frank is definitely right. The good drunk has fun, the bad drunk is thinking about yesterday the year before etc. I’m someone who said I will never let alcohol consume me and said “I hate alcohol I’ll never like it”.. I know most of you are gonna say “well stop drinking if it’s consuming you an can’t be a fun drinker etc etc” I have been trying by best. I’m 19 I’m very young and I see that I’ve been drinking lots. I cry about traumatic experiences I haven’t gotten over, my dad and past life. It’s becoming a crave, like how you crave sugar, fast food, you really want to play you’re video games, a cigarette, even you’re cup of coffee first thing in the morning. It’s hard to get rid of that craving especially when life goes to complete shit you need a drink and a recovering alcoholic will relate to that. I’m sorry for my blabbing lol but keep going you’re doing great especially all you recovering alcoholics/addicts. I’m happy you’re doing well and keep at it I’m proud.
frank is actually pretty wise, & when fiona was yelling at everyone in the alibi later in this episode you could see that he was worried because he was thinking about how he called fiona bad drunk & he was right.
frank’s lines actually had such grim, sad implications. said look at lip. he dont smile. smart boy! im smart too. i havent been sober since the day i was cognizant because mortality is too grand of a bleak burden. so wild. like, fuck frank. dont get me wrong. but damn
Yeah and I can’t wait...as long as Ian is coming back and Carl is there, I’m cool. They need to continue Lip’s character development, but find a way to do it and make it interesting....he’s been boring before fighting with Fiona!
I can respect frank here I think he always admired her for having her shit together and even though he would never say it he didn't want her going down the same path that he did
@@Stinkmeaner420 and you just told me something I already knew when I saw that scene 💀cuz when fiona gets drunk she’s mean always wanting to fight ppl yelling at them meanwhile frank he’s a good drunk he loves to have fun and he takes breaks sometimes
I don't think Frank follows his own advice of "don't drink more if you're already feeling good" considering that he's an alcoholic/junkie who has nearly died from alcohol/drug overdose several times. You don't get a high tolerance from taking it easy.
I grew up watching my parents and family drink. Always drinking. Whenever we'd have a bday party or gathering there comes in my family members with their 36 pack then go and get more before they stop selling liquor at 2am. 9 times out of 10 someone ended up fighting. Punching each other, getting mad over a comment or talking about the past. Always fighting. When I started drinking, I always said I'm going to have fun, dance the night away, make jokes. I've always been a fun drunk so others didn't look at me or I didn't want to look at myself the way I grew up looking at my family. Frank really hit the nail on the head when it comes to "bad drunks".
Macy and the writers deserve an award for this scene. It goes against Frank’s character as he couldn’t handle himself with booze but as a former alcoholic, there is nothing more true then what was said here.
As A Recovering Alcoholic (10 Weeks Sober,Thank You For Prayers In Advance)What Frank Says Is NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!If I Was A Fun Drunk, There Would Not Be Any Problems With My Drinking, But Unfortunately.......
A good drunk lives in the present. A bad drunk is thinking about yesterday. So true.
Omfg
@tix Landers ur so fucken rite I'm a bad drunk I think about the ast constantly
Ur soooooo fucken rite yes yes Frank is rite
When he said that, Fiona for a second there was shocked because she knew it was true but didn't care to admit it.
I'm a good drunk
Truest shit ever said.
That has been the most fatherly advice frank has ever gave
And it's authentic Frank advice coming from his heart and soul not advice he feels he has to give cos it's the right thing to say.
What happened to the building ? Showed her waking up drunken. Without water.
This was my most favorite scene of frank.. meaning to say he isn't a total fuck anymore😅
This is the only fatherly advice frank has given
He's a AH but a honest one
Frank while may be an alcoholic and a pathetic human being is probably the most self aware person on the show.
Yes. That's what makes him one of the greatest TV characters.
Honestly I think he's an awesome example of how who people are is circumstantial. At his core, he's extremely driven, self aware and cares about people. But due to circumstances such as his environment and how he was raised, those potentially good traits were twisted into Frank as we know him.
Drunks do not care about other people. They will always, ALWAYS, choose booze over people. @@kylovesart
@@iamsultana I said at his core. If you pay attention to his actions throughout the series, he obviously cares. He just has a different way of showing it and like you said when it comes to his addiction vs people, the addiction wins.
John smith.... Incorrect... He does have his moments and ill admit he is well-adjusted to the life he lives but he is a helpless addict and too weak/selfish to look at himself honestly... Fiona has been on the other side of this conversation over and over.
Iip is another bad drunk. Rage and smashing cars.
Lip* its short for Phillip
@@IDewWork clearly not
@@PlayMyMusic92 He just didn't capitalize the L... how do you know? lol
@@IDewWork he placed a captial "I" instead of a lowercase "l"... had he wrote lip .. then it'd be correct. Its not a big deal so relax.. i just auto-corrected him.. now im auto-correcting you 😅😎✌🏽
@@PlayMyMusic92 You didn't auto-correct me on anything lol.
That terrible moment when Frank may be right...
I hope Frank don't have no Liam Nielsen moment but fuck it because Frank is my nigga
He actually has some good sayings in this show
That moment was really good, really good development. Never thought i would see frank give a slight of a fuck about his daughter.
He isn't right, a drunk uses liquor to hide.
That's when u know you've hit rock bottom 😂😂
"Look at Lip, when was the last time you saw him smile" at the end of this episode when Fiona went to AA! This was a great episode
Someone should make a parody of this scene for coffee drinkers.
"A good coffee drinker lets it fuel him and focus his energy for the day. A bad coffee drinker gets wired and anxious"
Yeah. Between Frank and Fiona working together and bonding and her realizing she does have a problem and needs to get help-all with the backdrop of the blackout, it fires on all cylinders.
If frank gotta tell you your a bad drunk . Then it’s a problem coming from a drunk guy himself 😂
Reminds me of a story where Ozzy Osbourne told Carrie Fisher she was doing to much coke
That's like Santa telling you to be less generous
Nah frank is a good drunk
heydoeradio Good quote
Yeah we got that part. Duh
A broken clock is right twice a day type of thing
So many alcoholics need to watch this important scene. Powerful.
You wouldn't be surprised on how many do.
Cody James ew, what? Alcoholics don’t need the excuse of “I’m a good drunk” to continue drinking, tf? And either way, there’s no such thing as a good alcoholic or bad one. It’s all just shit.
Not Your Grandma’s Tea Party alcohol is delicious
Not Your Grandma’s Tea Party Nah. There are good and bad drunks, whether you want to believe that fact is entirely up to u.
This scene helped open my eyes, now I'm sober almost 10 months
This was the first moment Frank realized Fiona was becoming like him. Later in the episode, when she yells and calls everyone who marched a buncha pussies, Frank isn't fazed. He simply looks at her and shakes his head in sadness. Because he did the same thing before. He went through the same anger and emotional destruction when he, himself, began his descent into "rock bottom" when he was younger. Frank was hoping that Fiona would escape all this, and that she'd never end up at rock bottom, but she did. Later in the next episode, she wakes up in her abandoned apartment building, vomiting and in extreme pain, from an intense bender. A life threatening bender. The ones suicidal people, alcoholics, and hobos go through. The ones that strips away your innocence and makes you realize you're nothing anymore. When Fiona makes it back, she's visibly shaken. To her core.
That's why, when Fiona goes to AA, gets a job, gets her shit together, and leaves town, Frank is crying. You can see his eyes watering. He's in shock that she not only pulled through somehow after hitting rock bottom, but she's actually going to start a new, better life. She's gonna make it out of the Southside. She's actually doing it. Frank never could do it, and no one in the entire Gallagher family tree ever could either. Frank's mother, Monica's parents, none of them. That's why, when Fiona is leaving, Frank tells her, for the first time ever, "you did good". He acknowledges that she raised the kids herself and, in case this is the last time he sees her, wanted to make sure she knew how he was thankful for that. That was his way of acknowledging his abandoning of the kids, and that he's sorry he wasn't strong enough.
The mortality he was talking about in this clip isn't just about how we're living, sentient beings; he meant what it feels like when you hit rock bottom like he's done before. What it feels like to live there. You can only escape sober, but it hurts too much when your sober, so u just stay drunk forever. It kills your hope and convinces you that youncan never escape. Even 6 kids needing his care couldn't convince Frank otherwise. That was the Mortality Frank meant.
That was beautifully written.
Wow
Damn this is just shameless in a nutshell. What an amazing fucking show
Did none of you really pay attention during their final goodbye? Frank's complete shittiness came through one last time. Sure, he told Fiona she did well but immediately follows it with a condescending, "you helped out". In real life, it doesn't matter whether a person cares or not deep down, all that truly matters are words and actions. Maybe Frank really was heartbroken that Fiona left but he still couldn't say that and just acknowledge all she did for the Gallagher clan, not even as she was leaving. So, no, I don't think Frank was happy for Fiona's finally moving on from Chicago, more that he was upset that she was leaving him in particular. Like a true narcissist, its only ever about Frank.
@@tobeornottobe5611 I think he said that because he was finally sober and he was trying to deflect the shame. Like when Fiona responds to it saying she did it all, he says "whatever helps you sleep at night" which he is likely saying to himself
Frank’s speech’s are my favourite thing about this show.
It's fucking scary when frank is actually right on shameless. The moments when he gives slightly good advice or calls someone out on their personal issues is scary because he's the absolute best example of what NOT to be as an adult, parent, and person in general. If frank gallagher has to tell you to get your shit together you're SERIOUSLY fucking up.
Fiona was seriously fucking up
Sad how the only time Frank really bonds with his kids is when they're either wasted or committing crimes with him.
Or you know, both
@seangannon6005 at least he tried bonding
Good drinking advice from Frank? We’ve entered the goddamn Twilight Zone.
What’s funny is frank is actually right most of the time
Twilight Zone's such an awesome show.... like the old 1960s one. 😄
"You're worse than mafia" ! love you frank !
"i would never say that to my worst enemy" 😂
R u sure about that one frank?
Jeez, Frank horrible as he is, he has a point.
Frank always has a point 🤣
Moments like these show Frank actually cares but its never really enough to really help. Like i appreciate him trying to convince her of her problem and even staying by her the whole time (when she woke up drunk in a house) but since he has huge issues himself its never enough to help. Like telling lip to keep drinking knowing he pretty much lost all his opportunities cause of it and same for Fiona.
Ehhh....I attribute his pent-up rage and abandonment issues for his troubles more than anything. It's why he picks unstable girlfriends, confides in Youens and then lashes out after being betrayed by him, sleeps with Helene and then sneaks into her house to sleep after she's renounced her relationship with him.
But he is the one making the most consistent effort to maintain stability at present. Just some things he's never gonna get over no matter what he pledges....nor should he.
@@michaelbyrne5606 still all those issues led him to being an alcoholic so its still not fine for him to drink now. Thats his negative coping mechanism. Many addicts abuse drugs cause of some other underlying issues but it still doesnt change that they're addicts.
ninjastorm540 Some addictions can be empowering if lovingly applied and monitored...problem is, most people don’t know what the best things to do with that power are. Whatever renders you helpless should be weaned off of...but it’s also helpful to recognize what hinders you when you’re just going through day-to-day.
I dunno, friend. I’m an aspie with manic depressive tendencies....moscatos are cheaper and more effective than Prozac.
@@michaelbyrne5606 That is so true.
Emmy Rossum's acting in this scene was awesome. Love this hysterical laugh! She makes it feel so real
It almost doesn’t even seem like acting. She’s so good at displaying anger and hatred just through her eyes
Frank's face while he was watching Fiona at the Alibi kinda said it all. I think he realized his "smart"and "responsible" child had hit rock bottom.
When Frank starts telling you you're a bad drunk you know you've hit rock bottom
So much respect for frank in this scene. He was right from start to finish.
Frank loves Fiona the most, He would never let her be an alcoholic. Plus he loves his family even if it appears he doesn’t. He’d be a bad drunk without them. He knows that his family relies on Fiona. He’d never watch her go down without saying anything.
If i had the patience, I'd put a compilation together of all Frank's enlightening drunken rants about life.
Gentrification... First season... And he was dead right on that one too.
For a lazy, no good bastard, Frank surprisingly has good advice sometimes
Someone needs to do this please for the love of god. All his rants are so good
It’s so sad seeing Fiona like this
because fiona is going to leave this show after this season end
Its the real feohna
After what she has been through 😔
Heyy Heyy we want the old Fiona not this drunk south side bi***
That’s honestly the most truthful thing I’ve heard… there are good drunks and bad and frank said it perfectly
I love Frank and Fiona's father and daughter moments
Lmao at Tommy pouring himself a beer on tap in the background
I'm not gonna lie, this scene helped me realize I was becoming a bit of a bad drunk. I started to not live in the moment because I constantly obsessed over how others "did me wrong" in the past. I allowed prior pain and anguish to dictate present engagements and opportunities. Then I watched this scene and had this incredible epiphany. I swear I replayed it at least ten times. Now, I no longer drink to harbor resentment. I drink to have fun, let loose, and shoot my shot in this world. The most important change for me has been the ability to detach myself from outcomes. I needed to understand and accept the fact that things wouldn't always "go my way," and that isn't because something cruel or nefarious was working in the shadows to undermine me. If things work out for me in the end, then that's great! If not, then I'm happy I tried.
I love when shows change your entire mentality all for the sake of wanting to live a more happy and peaceful life
"Alcohol was created to distract us from existential dread."
Totally agreed, Frank.
I am a loyal Shameless fan and stuck with it even after it started to lose its way after Season 5. That noted, the last half of Season 9 really brought it back to its roots-and Emmy is SUCH AN AMAZING ACTRESS. She deserved an Emmy for her performance as Fiona.
I started watching it during s5
This scene hit me watching them two talk about the thing that destroyed their family the most. In Fionas eyes you can see her realising just now how smart her father really is, but obviously still ignorant about existence.
“A good drunk is living in the present, a bad drunk is thinking about yesterday”
Frank has been one of my favorites. bless him
Tbh it's some good advice. This scene actually got me thinking about my own drinking habits because I used to be a bad drunk. Dealing with a lot of shit, drinking to forget then being a complete asshole to the people around me while I heavily hinted at the problems I was dealing with as a drunken cry for help. The advice of learning to coast is actually really good. It's easy to be in a bar and just get drink after drink instead of resting inbetween, letting yourself coast and enjoy everything else that's going on besides getting another full glass in your hand. It might be coming from Frank but it is legitimately good advice.
Frank is always spitting wisdom!!!
Franks performance here is addicting and demands re watching. So good!
William H Macy is so fun to watch
Love him !!
He made a lot of sense..I know someone that will drink just to relive the past always talking about the past and I know a few who drinks and loves to have fun and another who drinks that is angry...another who drinks and starts to cry..it’s crazy what liquor can do to your mind lol
I been acting just like fiona,Im so embarrassed im only 22 and ever since my grandmas passing 3 years ago that was it ,havent stop drinking since ,dont even know how the 3 years went by so quick, i went to my first a.a meeting the other day and ive been sober for 4 days now only :( i was crrryying watching these last couple epeisodes
Cant blame you for your addiction. Lifes hard but it's good to know that you recognized you had a problem and are doing something about it. I hope you pull through and get over your addiction💯 dont know how much this can help but I highly recommend meditation. Your mind is the most powerful thing. And if you can master your thoughts u can do anything.
@@JuanMartinez-tr8ww wow i love this comment ,thanks so much ,im definitely going to look into that, I love anything good for our mental,much appreciated💙💙💙
@@elizabethrochelle110 no problem🙂
Elizabeth Rochelle
It's rough but You Can Get Sober and stay Sober. Your grandma would be proud.
@@bernadettemartinez6334 your so right, thats so kind ,thankyou 💙💙💙
Are you telling me I need to quit drinking?
I wouldn't tell that to my worst enemy 😂😂
Frank has a point
I choked when Frank said “your a bad drunk”😂
Also when Frank said “when you get drunk, you get mean” does anyone get a flash of Daddy’s Home 2 when the stepdad said it about the girl?🤣
The fact frank cares about the professors cut was goat.. great moment for frank here
One of the only times I would totally agree with Frank!
As a drinker.. I cried a little when he mentions about a bad and a good drunk... I didn’t realize that about myself but frank is definitely right. The good drunk has fun, the bad drunk is thinking about yesterday the year before etc.
I’m someone who said I will never let alcohol consume me and said “I hate alcohol I’ll never like it”.. I know most of you are gonna say “well stop drinking if it’s consuming you an can’t be a fun drinker etc etc” I have been trying by best. I’m 19 I’m very young and I see that I’ve been drinking lots. I cry about traumatic experiences I haven’t gotten over, my dad and past life.
It’s becoming a crave, like how you crave sugar, fast food, you really want to play you’re video games, a cigarette, even you’re cup of coffee first thing in the morning. It’s hard to get rid of that craving especially when life goes to complete shit you need a drink and a recovering alcoholic will relate to that.
I’m sorry for my blabbing lol but keep going you’re doing great especially all you recovering alcoholics/addicts. I’m happy you’re doing well and keep at it I’m proud.
That moment when Frank actually sounds like a father
Frank cured my alcoholism
He improved mine
frank is actually pretty wise, & when fiona was yelling at everyone in the alibi later in this episode you could see that he was worried because he was thinking about how he called fiona bad drunk & he was right.
That was the most badass speech I’ve heard in years!
This scene shows how great the actors are and that is why shameless is the best
"Sobriety is a fools game"
Facts.
This is seriously one of the best scenes in the show in my mind.
Sometimes Frank is a good father)
Sometimes)))
Very rarely
In his own Frank way
Good in all the wrong ways
Frank has never been a good father. Not even once. Maybe accidentally
@@luckyshaz703 he may have lost Liam, to drug dealers, for collateral...but did you see what he did to get him back?!
Frank was right on, she is such a mean drunk.. I'm happy she went to AA meeting in the end.
He is no better. He punched his children (Ian and Debbie) so he is a bad drunk for me. He can be really violent when he is drunk sometimes.
The best argument for being a drunk...lol
This is the best advice I ever heard. Coast take your time
I watched this with my bro and cried. We love this show because it helps in a weird way to figure out problems
1:53 That's actually great advice. I always keep that in mind when I'm drinking.
Translation: Frank is worry about Fiona.
frank’s lines actually had such grim, sad implications. said look at lip. he dont smile. smart boy! im smart too. i havent been sober since the day i was cognizant because mortality is too grand of a bleak burden. so wild. like, fuck frank. dont get me wrong. but damn
Try being sober. It’s not that hard. You can do it.
@@zer0h0urs000 i was paraphrasing franks PoV....
also as an aside, if being sober was easy, we'd have few to no alcoholics. wtfym
This might be the one moment Frank was 💯 undoubtedly right.
Can't believe there is gonna be no more of Fiona 😭😭😭😭
subs e me either, but recently I don’t mind it. She’s been annoying me lately
Thank god, I've been sick of her since like season 4
Yeah and I can’t wait...as long as Ian is coming back and Carl is there, I’m cool. They need to continue Lip’s character development, but find a way to do it and make it interesting....he’s been boring before fighting with Fiona!
@@poundcake4158 ian quit the episode he went to jail
Poundcake This is Cameron Monaghan's last season as well.
you know how bad the situation is when Frank is giving good advices
I can respect frank here I think he always admired her for having her shit together and even though he would never say it he didn't want her going down the same path that he did
Never thought i would hear such great advice coming from frank.. thanks bro
It’s actually good to see Fiona and Frank in good terms this season
This has always been my favorite scene in all of shameless.
Best advice he ever gave
You know it’s bad when FRANK is calling you a bad drunk and he drinks more than anyone in the family 😭
You missed the point. He is not saying she's a bad drunk cos she drinks a lot. She's a bad drunk cos alcohol makes her mean-spirited
@@Stinkmeaner420 and you just told me something I already knew when I saw that scene 💀cuz when fiona gets drunk she’s mean always wanting to fight ppl yelling at them meanwhile frank he’s a good drunk he loves to have fun and he takes breaks sometimes
@@Shifusbathwater you know because I just told you, you plonker. If you knew this before, why did you put that ignorant comment up the first time?
One of the best pieces of advice anyone could get when it comes to drinking!
Very true words. I know some really bad drunks, I’m definitely a good drunk
One of the rare times frank offers parental advice. Frank is a funny drunk. Whereas Fiona is a bad one,
I don't think Frank follows his own advice of "don't drink more if you're already feeling good" considering that he's an alcoholic/junkie who has nearly died from alcohol/drug overdose several times. You don't get a high tolerance from taking it easy.
I get what u are saying but that was in season 4 and this is season 9 and maybe frank learned from that
when frank said "when you get drunk, you become mean" he sounded cute when he said mean 😭
Damn, my own dad never gave me this much advice.
Proof that Frank deep down cares about his children
I grew up watching my parents and family drink. Always drinking. Whenever we'd have a bday party or gathering there comes in my family members with their 36 pack then go and get more before they stop selling liquor at 2am. 9 times out of 10 someone ended up fighting. Punching each other, getting mad over a comment or talking about the past. Always fighting. When I started drinking, I always said I'm going to have fun, dance the night away, make jokes. I've always been a fun drunk so others didn't look at me or I didn't want to look at myself the way I grew up looking at my family. Frank really hit the nail on the head when it comes to "bad drunks".
I'm over a year sober and the line where he says I've ever seen a sober person smile made me laugh
Miss this show
I can’t believe frank might be the one to help Fiona out of this spiral she’s in
Luciana Montalvo he’s going to find Jimmy/Steve/jack
he managed to gather together....most of a point
Frank is a modern Dionysus.
Frank getting real about being a drunk reminds me of joker talking about insanity in Killing Joke, same energy
A public service announcement from Frank Gallagher
Frank just called Fiona a bad drunk, lol! He's right though!
" you are worst than the mafia " 🤣🤣 the writers of shameless is so good
the writing in this show is top tier.
I could see here how badly Fiona was hurting but was trying to put up a brave front.. damn
She's a strong person for real, but she has been exhausted since the age of 9. I miss fi 😢
Frank might be a fall down drunk but god damnit is he smart
This and Franks Diatribe on bullying, two greatest Frank Moments
Macy and the writers deserve an award for this scene. It goes against Frank’s character as he couldn’t handle himself with booze but as a former alcoholic, there is nothing more true then what was said here.
Love him or hate him but one thing is for sure Frank is a genius.
Genius. Abstinence is NOT the solution. I love this on so many levels and I stopped drinking for years.
When Frank is right he’s right
I was looking for this line like crazy
This is one of those rare moments when a piece of art resonates with you for the rest of your life. I’ve never thought of drinking the same again.
As A Recovering Alcoholic (10 Weeks Sober,Thank You For Prayers In Advance)What Frank Says Is NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!If I Was A Fun Drunk, There Would Not Be Any Problems With My Drinking, But Unfortunately.......
Biggest fan ever watching all the episodes
*me, starts drinking again after franks advice
I'm a good drunk. Never been mad or mean when I'm drunk. I'm nicer than ever.
Why did bro make so much sense