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- In Jaguar's glory days of Mk2s, E-Types, and XJs lay their flagship performance luxury saloon - the Mk10 and later 420G - a car that despite its failure set the template for both the style and engineering of Jaguar cars for the next fifty years.
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Saw one of these quite randomly in Finland some two years ago, and not just any, but the rarest of the Mark Xs, the 4.2. It was museum registered, painted dark blue and looking immaculate (this was a LHD one, too). Gorgeous car.
My dad had a mk10 for many years, I remember going to school in it and then learning to drive in it. Such an awesome car, I took my girlfriend at the time for a drive around the Port Hills in Christchurch. I remember dad had to put commercial tyres all round because the weight of the car meant normal car tyres got chopped out very quickly. One time we were out for a drive dad was sitting on 100mph and he buried the boot, the old girl kicked down to first gear, and the rev counter shot around to max revs, about 7grand from memory, held there for a bit then changed up. Dad was a self confessed petrol head and we would go for drives on the Canterbury plains and Port Hills because he loved driving the mk10. He also owned a mk2 and a mk7 Jaguar .
Really fascinating stuff Ed, I’m old enough to remember these giants driving around, in fact as you suggested the 420G often appeared so enormous on our little U.K. roads. (I have always loved all of the smaller Jags, but this was more like a boat in comparison). I can’t say it ever had the visual appeal of much more stunning cars of the time - like the Rover 3.5 coupe for instance..Great episode! 👍👍
Is that You Phillip? I was just watching this and saw your name? I almost bought a MK 10 in Vancouver ten years ago, a white one with a sun roof. I always loved the look of the MK 10 big though they are and have always fancied one but me and the seller couldn't agree on a price- $11000 which is nothing these days and it was mint. They're big for sure but still much smaller then the Cadillac Fleetwood I was driving at that time and I always thought them the prettiest of the Jags.
@@frankkemble2103 hi Frank! No, sorry that’s not me, I’m from the U.K. kind regards to you though. 🙏
@@philtucker1224 It's me Phillip, your cousin, David and Mary-Grace first born child. or have a got the wrong Phil Tucker? The one I know lives in Newton Abbot UK
@@frankkemble2103 Hi Frank! Not me buddy but all the very best to you and your family. 🙏
@@philtucker1224 And to yours- apologies for the mix up. My cousin is a Jag nut hence the conviction that you were him.
I agree with what you say. Like other contributors, I too remember these Jags well. The appropriately lamented late Ronnie Barker's mum lived in the next village to mine, and I still remember the sight of him driving through our village in a Mk 10 (later, XJs of various types). The then cross-ply tyres scrubbed audibly as he heaved the 2 ton behemoth round the bends. Even our village undertaker - most villages in our neck of the woods had their own back then! - had a derelict Mk 10, with visible canvas showing on the front tyres. Ahh, the days before 1 mm minimum tread. This was also the time just before annual MOTs arrived on the scene, and most people didn't have easy access to a tyre pressure check/pump. Most people hardly knew what tyre pressure was! As long as tyres LOOKED alright, there WERE alright! Cross-plies didn't look 'flatter' on the bottom as they were, to all intents and purposes, rigid. Until the pressure was really low, hence scrubbed shoulders, and even side-walls, really. Cars didn't 'handle' in those days so much as slide in a vaguely controlled way. Sorry dude, rambling, me, about the 60s...
There is something about a Jaguar that no other car manufacturer has.
I can't remember ever seeing a Mark X in real life but now I definitely want to!
Another quality video Ed. I really enjoyed it. 🙂
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I could have had a nice MKX, but its wonderful complexity worried me about maintenance. I got a '59 MKIX and just love its more solid, simpler, and totally stately build. It's fast, too.
9:44 12:48 That door pull and slam noise are just ✨
My Older brother had a Jigsaw (back in the 70's) which featured a painting of what I now know was a bright yellow Mk10 or possibly a 420G.
It was driving through the rain and was a 'Fine Picture'.
At the same time I had an 'E type' (roadster with le mans headlights) tri-ang pedal car.
I wish I'd kept it but 'as is life' I had a crash into my mum's Ford Anglia which smashed it's wrap around windscreen.
Later on my dad repainted it luminous yellow (including the wire wheels).
"Oh happy days !"
After the E-type, and only by a tiny bit at that, this is the prettiest car Jaguar ever made IMO.
Seriously mate, you need to dump the BMW & buy a mkX jag! 😎
Absolutely fantastic review mate. A lot of stuff I didn't know and very well researched. So refreshing and relaxing to see a review video on YT (or almost any video on YT) with no silly and unnecessary music added in. Even the title screen is a respectful silence. I'm just so sick of stupid music being added in to videos in every second where there is no narration and even many where there IS speaking. A constant distacting undercurrent of sound or music while the person is speaking! So this video and your others are just great in that respect. Also great are the subtle relaxing breaks between paragraphs of vocals. Where the horrible norm these days is to cut these natural pauses out completely, rendering the video an unnatural and stressful hurried mess to watch with all sound and visuals hard cut to pieces and just horrendous to endure.
The script is well written and delivered and I agree completely with your analysis and opinion. I grew up around these and the 420G and even as a keen young teenager, mad on cars, I always felt they were too bulbous and heavy looking; looked good from some angles but essentially "not quite there". I wasn't overly keen on the column auto either - I always felt that a floor shift with proper console should have been fitted. But as you say, they were desgined with the Yanks in mind, and that's the setup they preferred in luxury cruisers. No doubt those large wide seats were designed to accommodate the American's signature large wide aah-rses also!
The only small criticism I have is that you only keep mentioning the Cadillac as a comparison competitor - but what about the equally impressive and equally luxurious Ford Lincoln Continentals and the Chysler Imperials? The latter, arguably were some of the most well engineered and amazing luxury cars ever made in the USA. And although you mentioned the small displacement engine, you neglected to mention that compared to the V8 loving Americans - the Jag was only a 6 cylinder. No wonder they didn't sell many in the States. If they had had the venerable V12 in it, I'm sure it would have sold a great many more units over there.
Thanks for reading.
As ever, great description and analysis of one of the UK's historically significant cars.
My absolute favorite Jaguar.
I remember back in the 80's at my local banger track, a completely fearless guy called Roy Bramley (track name Retard), as he had a reputation for going the wrong way around the circuit against all the other cars) One evening he brought out a jag Mk10 and started right at the front, Normally the cars lined up in two's, but it was so wide there was only enough room for the Jag ! Warm up lap behind the control car and they were off, 30 odd screaming Granada Mk 2's pushing the Jag at a frightening speed ! First corner there was no way it was going to get around the corner and went straight on and taking a thick iron post clean out of the concrete, ripping the wheel right off the Jag, He managed to repair it and got out for the next race.
one of the best jags - love the story of the v12 MkX when they were testing the v12s ,
Maybe they would have sold more of these in the USA if they had contracted with Chrysler or AMC to build them in one of their plants. The labor costs might not have been any lower, but there would have been no tariffs or shipping costs except for whatever parts had to come from England. That might also have made it easier to tailor the cars built here for the American market.
The 4.20G was the last Jag I owned. I had this idea of doing a V12 HE. engine swap. Never did tho.
A bookmaker in Kettering owned one it was a giant of a car when I was an apprentice one of my duties was to take bets to the betting shop and I would admire this beauty parked outside the shop
The mk10 is such a beautiful car. If I ever had the money or space I would have one along with a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud series 3. Things just looked nicer back then.
The Mk 10 is an extremely beautiful car when is in superb condition ,but it s a money pit if in need of a full restoration.
The quote about Mark X in England at the time was the " cigar "
my favourite jag
My favourite Jag
Who the he'll over looked or forgot about the mighty 10! My dear old cad loves them.
I am ld enough to remember both the Mark X and the 420G. Back in the day, none of us could afford them, but many of us had Fathers/parents who could. I and my pals loved the rhinos - that is when someone borrowed their parents car. These days, I am a septuagenarian, but own an XJ Portfolio., Same thing, there isn’t anything on the road that looks the same - and when you get behind the wheel, it doesn’t feel like the size it is. But you are still cocooned in luxury - massage seats, even a suede headliner. And when my wife drives, I sit in the back - bags of room & a separate lot of controls & seat settings. It’s a little quirky, but hell, it’s English! Unfortunately I think I am driving the last XJ That will be made.
My father had one I loved it 4.2 of pleasure
They did to a Daimler version of the Mark 10 called the Daimler Sovereign which was like the later XJ Sovereign.
It always struck me that the MK11 was a company directors car but the MKX was a company owners car, a company owner who didn`t want to appear ostentatious by running around in a Rolls Royce o Bentley.
Great presentation.
I still have a beautiful 1963 Mk10 Limosine. Centre divider. Owned by the man himself. Sir William Lyons. It’s in Australia
Would look stunning in a very dark blue 😎
Back in the 60:s nobody wanted them in the UK it was lucky the S-type and it's 420 variant were in the pipe line and then the game changer XJ6
The MkX was superceded by the 420G which apart from a larger engine, gained a lot more equipment as well. So while you keep singing the MkX praises of 1961, the equipment in the 420G wasn't there in the early cars.
Likewise, the S Type became the 420 with upgrades in excess of its new MkX-esque grille.
The reason Jaguar didn't succeed in the USA is the same reason many other British/European makes failed: they didn't understand the US car culture.
Post-war up to the '60s, it was expected that you would trade up every couple of years. How far you traded up signified your level of success. You began with a small outlay of cash, and continued with your trade in plus another small outlay of cash (or larger outlay.) The trade ins were used by a 'second tier' of owners, students and whatnot, saving for their first new car. Any gas station/garage was expected to keep your car in running order. Any 'foreign' car didn't fit that paradigm: it didn't have trade in value, parts weren't readily available, and garages weren't used to disk brakes, Lucas electrics, and tuning SUs.
The new US Interstate highway system created a travelling vacation culture utterly foreign to Europeans. Americans didn't want claustrophobic cars with high revving race engines and finely tuned suspensions. They wanted to load a family of six and all their luggage in a car with a low-revving, low geared engine and gobs of torque, and aim it down an arrow-straight freeway stretching to the horizon. They wanted to sit in comfortable couches with zero road feel, because they wanted to be rested after driving for eight or ten hours at a constant speed to get to their destination. They wanted to know that if anything went wrong, any local garage could easily fix it.
Jaguar built a British Jaguar and just put it in an oversized suit thinking that would be enough. They were wrong.
Brits aren't stupid for thinking American cars were big, ugly, wallowy, thirsty dinosaurs. They're just visualizing American cars using their only frame of reference: driving between thousand-year-old villages along twisty hedgerows in a country the size of Delaware. Since America doesn't have those things, American cars weren't designed for it.
That XK also powered the British armys CVRT range of vehicles for almost 30 years.
Great video! Love the in-your-face colorway, did the colours have exktic names? Are there other 2 tone colourways for this model? Thanks for your good work!
12:40 I see a Hoffmeister kink there (-:
That is my image of a 60s Jag, bulbous even then (yes, I'm old enough), but gorgeous. The XJs - too sharp, less Jag shaped
beautiful re-upholster. paint looks a little too much like a biscuit for me...not that i'm in the market for a MK X...love a MK II though, far better proportions i think; See also: 1:34 & 15:56
It is a thing of beauty, it also captures the imagination - I can picture TinTin behind the wheel. I enjoy your videos very much, however, at around the 13 min mark you mention the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in a less than respectful manner - please do not do use His name in vain again. Thanks
I've always loved the look of the Mk10. I had a Dinky toy one, as a kid. I loved the forward rake of the front, twin headlights and air vents.
Me too!
Matchbox #28 for me. LUSTED after the Mk-10. Still.
My younger brother had a Corgi model of the Mk10. It had an opening bonnet with an "engine" and opening boot with two "suitcases". Even they could be opened.
@Richard Hemingway - Yeah, but one look at the back half from the the side and I knew why it failed. That thing was dragging a huge back end. Looked like it was wearing a bustle.
@@wickedcabinboy Not why it failed at all. Plus that's it's sexiest angle.
Good video Ed. A few things to note
As an American, I can tell you that a big piece of the story too resides in the "Made in the USA is better" complex. Jaguar was competing with not just the cheaper domestic car market here in the US, but also the domestic mindset of 2 generations. ALL foreign cars were viewed as expensive and problem prone. Expensive to not only purchase, but to maintain. Also (and allegedly) parts were not stocked commonly and had to be imported, which meant your car would be sitting for a considerably longer time than anything domestic. The "Big 3", and to a lesser extent AMC (which ironically would be bought by Renault, but that's for another day) helped to fuel this point of view through rigorous advertising. Need proof? The success of the VW Beetle prompted General Motors to respond by introducing the Chevrolet Corvair, a rear engined car with more interior space and a more powerful 6 cylinder. GM assumed that appealing to the "bigger is better" and "No replacement for displacement" crowd, Corvairs would fly off dealer lots. Ralph Nader's book "Unsafe At Any Speed" put that brakes on that, and the Corvair was deemed a failure, even though they were actually quite good by the end. The Japanese were the ones who truly cracked that mindset, with cheap, fuel efficient cars that outlasted their domestic counterparts by a considerable margin.
I remember as a kid in the 80's, Jaguars were hugely popular and were quite the status symbol. As an adult, I now own 2 antique Jaguars (76 XJ12c and XJ40 Vanden Plas) and FYI, I don't need to compensate for anything at all. ;-)
Keep up the great work!!
@dark phoenix Now , now Phoenix tell us the size of your member and we will judge if there is a need to compensate !
@@bengunn3698 😊
XJ12C is a really great one to own !
Sir, you have good taste.
BTW, my favourite American car is the 1971 Buick Riviera. Kind of mid-range as I understand it , but styled to perfection.
@@Hertog_von_Berkshire The Boattail Riviera is one of my favourites.
My Brother owned a second-hand 420G once. Absolutely beautiful, in a gorgeous royal blue, with matching blue leather interior, with walnut eveywhere. This one had a compact phone in the back, in a specially made walnut box. One day, having carefully parked her, a chap came up to my brother and said. Isn't she a beauty, I'm glad to see she's well looked after, I used to wear a uniform and Chauffer Dunlop's boss all over Europe in this.
One of Jaguar's silliest mistakes was to build the fabulous Mk10 and NOT use the Daimler 4.5ltr V8 in it, at least for the American LHD models. I got a Corgi Mk10 when they first came out and I loved it. Another great video Ed.
Hi from Sydney, Australia. David it was so very close to occurring, the fact that it did not occur was not the Jaguar guys fault, but "bmc bozos". It really was so close to occurring.
Mark 10's are my favorite car of all cars made in the past 120 + years. I own one and drive it all the time. Like you, I bought the first Corgi color a weird green then I bought 10 more in every color Corgi ever made. Then 2 Dinky toy ones, 4 Norev ones. 2 larger Spot On ones pale blue & bronze/copper one. Plus, British owned Hong Kong made plastic ones. 2 different ones in 1/24th scale, then 4 colors in big spectacular 1/20th scale, finally a huge 1/12th scale pulling a Ferrari F1 GP car on a trailer also in 4 colors, I bought a blue one & was given a red one as a xmas gift when new in 1962. Mint boxed now in 2023 a 1,000 euro toy set !!
WHY : in november 1961, my mum collected her special order brand new black mk10 from the factory in Coventry. While temporary rego of BXE106 was sorted & plates attached to car. Norman Dewis showed a young me around the factory where mk10's were finally completed BY HAND & in the parts of the factory where they were on a very basic production line. Mum bought a second new 420G in late 1971.
Move ahead 14 years to mid 1975 and Norman Dewis & R.E( lofty) England came to Sydney to present the two new coupes XJC & XJS to the Australian Jaguar concessionaire, Bryson Motors and also to members of the NSW Jag Drivers Club at Bryson Motors beautiful art deco headquarters at Woolloomooloo, (between Hyde Park & Kings Cross in Sydney) Norman Dewis had remembered my mother so Norman and Lofty sat at our table. You could see this was much to Jack Bryson's disgust, after a while Lofty sat with the Bryson's guys, but Norman Dewis stayed at our table the whole time. Mum bought a second one a new 1971 420G.
I got to ask Norman Dewis all the bits of trivia I wanted to know, forced by BMC to rename all the Jaguars, there would have been multiple 420's as a numerised version of engine size was to be applied and the new S-type would be a 420, the Daimler version would be a 420, the new Limousine that was in the works would be 420 and the MK10 would be the 420, the BMC people said that there must be something in part bins you could use, so an aluminium G letter off a Guy truck was used. I found that they in mid 1975 were still building special order MK10's, here in Sydney, the Malaysian Embassy received 2 new odd color special order green ones in January 1975. My dad was a specialist US diplomat for this part of the world based in Sydney in the same building in 37 Pitt St, City. One of their drivers flipped the bonnet so I could see it had the Aust Gov't Federal compliance plate fitted and it had stamped 01 75.so new jan 1975. Dewis confirmed still being made to order in mid 1975. Since then, I have seen several more later '70's-built versions and 2 were dressed as 4.2litre mk10's, NOT 420G's and with government compliance plates fitted too and going by the vin sequencing numbers they are well after ones listed in books. Norman Dewis said some were even "zenith sentinels" bullet proof ones for governments.
PUNCH line.
ALL the different pieces on a 420G were for the still-born Daimler 4.5 litre v8 version, Norman told me so. The Daimler square pressed grill bars or slats, the chrome brass belt line strips, the front mudguard mounted turn signal repeaters, the new dashboard top rail with black plastic padded pieces, the dash top clock, different leather faced seats, different hub caps, the plain black plastic squishy knee protectors on the dash parcel tray (as mk10 in the same color leather as the seats) all were to be the different and defining pieces for the Daimlerized version, Marquis. Norman Dewis confirmed this, however randomly one day unannounced a fleet of trucks turned up, all completed 4.5 litre v8's, all the tooling, replacement spare parts from inventory were all SEIZED by order from BMC Board of Directors, Norman stated that to that day in 1975 NOBODY knew where they were taken to, were they dumped or smelted down, no one knows. So, from September 1966 when that occurred Jaguar for some months were building new 420G's & new 4.2 Mk10's at the same time and were sold for the same price to the penny. Norman said that the mk10's sold first, that both dealers and clients thought 420G sounded stupid and in Norman's word looked "tizzy" with the sparkling chrome strip. Maybe Daimler buyers were wankers and thought extra bling on an identical and badge engineered / named car made it better, who knows. However Norman said that the 4.5 hemi V8 after the overheating troubles that they inherited from BSA buyout were fixed by fitting the superb GM Harrison radiator division crossflow system like all the 4.2 litre mk10's, then Daimler V8 cars ran cool and did not overheat. Norman said with tweaking & in his words "some yanky carby" 4.5-liter hemi V8's delivered 400bhp in "granny" tune that they'd been sending several out to MIRA test track & they could hammer stress free around banked track at approaching 200 mph effortlessly. Also, Jaguar cars had ordered the best 8A Borg Warner tranny like in the 4.2 mk10's beefed up version with a dual range switch pitch lock up torque converter and stall kit, as the transmission in the Majestic Major v8 cars was apparently purely awful. 8A's are identical to what a US Ford person would call a "full house" C4 Cruiseomatic, they're "badge engineered " gearboxes, fitted to the 430 ci, 7 litre Lincoln Continental & the 390 ci, 6.4 litre "green block side oiler police enforcer" fitted to Ford Galaxies which was then the most powerful engine from any company in the USA and for 1965 won Ford 48 out of 52 Nascar races, then for 1966, 35 out of 52 events one after the next with the big Galaxie and NONE when they switched to the new wide body Mustangs late in 1966. With this new Mustang body every race was lost (identical to Steve McQueen's Mustang in the movie Bullett) due to a weak flexing body with cheap "tear out" rear end suspension, low end Yanky junk.
I own a 1967 420G, bought in december 2012 from the estate of the first owner, a special order bronze head ultra high output car with the said same tricked up Borg Warner type 8A automatics that were destined for the Daimler version, I also own a 1965 Super Duty Galaxie with the green engine and that same gear box , and I also own a 1965 Lincoln 4 door sedan also with that said same gearbox, I could swap them from car to car and they will fit & work flawlessly. In 1975 I bought a 1965 4.2 litre mk10 & it had the 8A gearbox and later in 1979 I bought rare long wheelbase 1974 series 1 XJ6 special order car also with a high output bronze head, triple HD8 SU's from Jaguar as it had been specially ordered by Jaguar cars Paris as a RHD car to be shipped to Australia when completed, also fitted with the BW 8A tranny, I owned it 32 years the fact that it had been virtually a handbuilt car showed everywhere, flawless, and in an owner chosen deep claret, painted at the VanDen Plas works in London, I can only imagine this with a V8 Daimler engine in it. Because it was it was extremely powerful with the hand built bronze head XK engine & Mk10 carbies. Fitted out as a 6 cylinder Vanden Plas dressed as a Jaguar with NO vinyl roof, & full Vanden Plas interior I sold it to a friend in 2012 when I bought the fantastic low mileage '67 420G.
Finally , that day in mid 1975 I asked Norman Dewis what happened to the mk10 test cars with the 4.5 litre Daimler V8's in them, at that time they were still being used for "hack" work by the factory so maybe hiding out there in some former employees' garage, barn or shed one will turn up one day you can only but hope. I have seen 4 unusual mk10's. a Jaguar v12 powered one, a Buick 454ci, 7.5 litre v8 version with a late series2 xj , or series 3 xj GM thm400 automatic attached as with a specially cast for Jaguar case it fitted easily into the mk10 body, a 4 litre Cummins diesel, this was a manual 3.8 litre mk10 and finally a Daimler 4.5 litre V8 one where decades ago from J & D spares at Blacktown NSW, there had been a pretty nasty rear end accident damaged Daimler Majestic Major which was the donor car, the guy with the Cummins diesel car was a motor engineer tech college teacher & he made some kind of adaptor plate to fit the BW 8A automatic onto the 4.5 V8. All of the above mk10's had open heart surgery as original engines had suffered terminal unrepairable engine failures & their ordinary working-class owners loved them and wanted to see them back on the road again and since they could not afford to buy an really good working XK 4.2 engine, this was a way back on the road again. None are in the club now their then owners would by now be in their 90's, but all 4 were both well and tastefully done. So probably hiding somewhere in this huge country.
I have one. And I LOVE IT. A beautiful car, epitomising the description; Space, pace, and grace.
@@gregharvie3896 Mate, you could have easily condensed this and articulated your ideas with much greater clarity.
Not at alll the v8 ws a far inferior in pureperformnce and too big too heavy
This is the best Jag engine ever.
@@gregharvie3896
I'm sure I still have a Matchbox one with an opening bonnet
My brother-in-law had one around 1978 soon after he sold it he died in a head-on driving a Mazda RX3
I've always said if he'd been driving the Jag he would have gone straight through the thing he hit
And I remember the showroom down the street from the Cross
I was in the Jaguar owners club and running a 3.4 Mk2 in 1972 ,which wasn"t a bad car but was not exactly reliable and never really lost some faults with early Jags that were never put "right" like the crappy small Dunlop brakes and the problems with head gaskets - a small problem with the water /heating system usually meant a blown head gasket ,not long after .My mates and family thought I was mad running old Jags in my 20s ,but a couple of family members had them and they were so different than anything else at the time . I eventually bought a 420 G off my brother in laws ,business partner who the Tax man was chasing, for £400 and less than 4 years old , a maroon colour with low mileage ,it seemed a bargain ,but when the bills started coming in and around 12 m.p.g . I wasn"t too sure . The carbs seemed to need synchronizing every other week and water was forever finding it"s way into the twin tanks through the hopeless seals in the filler caps atop the tanks . I had owned a fair few large cars and the Jag. never seemed to be that powerful and never seemed nice to drive - although very smooth & comfy .A Merc. Estate and a Citroen Ds Safari Estate were nicer to drive ,slightly better on fuel and had a bigger road presence . I sold the car to a disabled Lady who lost a leg in a motorcycle crash and bought the car after a long test drive aided with the compo from her accident and she loved the car .Lots of cars later I still love Jags . but now own a Rover P6 2200 which is just the job for old retired blokes who just like old cars ,that are fairly easy to fix and at around 25 - 30 m.p.g. easy to live with ?. Nice video review and happy [classic] motoring .
You’ve just put me off Jag’s for the rest of my life,,,I’m 76 🤣🤣🤣 A car I’d love to have again is the ‘64 PB Cresta I owned in ‘68, gorgeous big cruiser ( as far as I can remember ) 😀
@@tomsurrey2252 40 + from a V6 Jag !!! 😱 My neighbour had a Mondeo V6 24V, same engine as the Jag? He sold it because of the running costs. All I can afford to run now is my wee 2007 1.2 Corsa 😢
A beautiful car but,......built at the time car manufacturers did not know (or care) about rust traps and poor quality steel or build quality. The Jaguar Mk X drank petrol like it was going out of fashion.
Anyone with a spare £100k could have one of these updated and modernised. It is such a shame so many of them rotted away.
I had a 63 3.8 Mk10, nice, big and comfy, but a real rust bucket after only 13 years, the exhaust was non existant and the steering well very vague, but 17 mpg not too bad if you remembered to fill both tanks, I sold it on and bought a Truimph 2.5PI, but I did like the Jag, 32VTN
Thanks Ed, another great review and what a superb car. That dash and all those gauges is more like a plane cockpit. The woodwork is amazing the way only Jaguar could do with their classic interiors 😊
The CYY reg would indicate it's been re-registered as you said. Do you know where the car came from? Great vid - thanks.
I agree about the bulbous view. The front wings had so much air in them it felt like papier mache over a balloon in design
The MK X has never really figured on my radar. Always loved the MK II, S Type and XJ. Always fascinating to learn a car's history though.
One of Jaguars best looking contemporary classic sedans, beautifully proportioned......not too sure about that two-tone paint job though that breaks up the otherwise clean smooth lines? Great video with lots of interesting insight on this 'almost forgotten' Jaguar. Thanks for posting!
You're right- the two-toned side panels looked great on the swoopy-lined fenders of earlier Jag saloons, but the rather straight-sided MKX needed a solid paint color. Not mentioned was that the MKX had well-rounded side panels with no protective trim which invited door dings and scrapes.
The 1970 Cadillac Eldorado was 18 1/2 feet long was fitted with a 500 cubic inch motor ( 8.2 liters) and 400 hp, It would do 0 to 60 in 7.6 seconds and topped out at 125 mph- big but faster than a MK 10 or even a MK2. Caddy was a foot and half longer too. I've owned a Cadillac Fleetwood ( 21 feet and huge ) but the Lincoln continental and Chrysler Imperial were bigger. Having said all this, I would take that MK 10 anyday over American iron as it is just so beautiful. Wish I could find a nice one here in Canada. I always understood that the XK 3.4 litre was a development from the original SXK 3.5 motor from the SS100 and so it's provenance extends further back than 1948.
I remember these as a petrolhead kid and I thought them too big and brash. The bulbousness isn't helped by the wheels being tucked well inside the wheelarches, giving these a clumsy overhang. But yes, it looks like a Jaguar.
The Daimler version of the XJ6 was actually called the Daimler Sovereign, the Daimler double six as its name suggests was the V12 version of the Jaguar XJ12. badge engineering at its finest the only difference besides the badges obviously was the Daimlers always sported the classic Daimler fluted grill - and no leaping Jaguar on the bonnet of course which from the front made it very noticable.
I had one of those in the late 80's, cost me £5k, a rare manual version. About 12MPG! It was a money pit, sold it for £2k after a couple of years.
I hope Manor Park Auctions are giving this lad a percentage of their sales,because I reckon he doubles the price overnight! He could get an Arab to invest in a sandbank! Eskimos would stand in line for his ice cubes! Salesmen would employ him as a ghost writer. Amazing enthusiasm!
This is weird, it’s been years since I saw a Mk10 and then saw one yesterday on the motorway and now Ed’s excellent video. Seeing one up close they are huge but with a elegant look and they sound glorious!
Yeah, they sound good?
The interiors of these cars are fantastic - so much wood! Far more than even a Rolls. The later XJs had a lot less. It's a pity recent Jaguars didn't take more inspiration from this one instead of the drab offerings which I'm sure is one of the reasons sales dwindled to next to nothing.
When I was a kid someone in my neighbourhood had a 420G. The interior was beautiful. I shudder to think about its fuel consumption.
I remember those cars when I was a kid and now that I've nearly retired I appreciate how beautiful they are
A grand uncle of mine had a Mk 10 in the 60s and 70s. I remember it as a heaving hulk that drank petrol. I liked it but something was always not working on it. I didnt know it was a Mk10 until last year! Granduncle was a weird eccentric.
It still lives in that shape, and that forward knife-edge for Jaguar sedans was still the design cues from this car forward. This model may be forgotten, but not its design.
This car gives good Rear View Mirror intimidating stats. I'd even say it's Gru's Daily IRL, seeing that the Kray twins liked it also.
IMO It's the UK "Pimpala".
Inboard rear disc brakes increase performance but makes maintenance more expensive.
Your mention of Daimler reminded me that Jag of course acquired with Daimler the 2.5 and 4.5 V8s. The story goes that a MkX was trial fitted with the 4.5 V8 which blew the doors off the XK 3.8. Nevertheless they killed off the Daimler V8s. One wonders whether the V8 might have been a better idea for US sales, and indeed, whether it may have made the future V12 unnecessary?
I just wrote the same message to Ed then scrolled down to read yours. It would have been a shame if the V8 had stopped Jag from making the V12, remember all the Le Mans winners it powered, but it should have gone in the 420G if not the Mk10.
@@piccalillipit9211 Nah, watch Harry's Garage's latest video about his. The V12 is a thoroughbred engine right up there with Ferrari and Lambo offerings.
Remember seeing one on a ferry i Denmark in the late ninetees....did'nt know what it was, because I only knew XJ6 , and it looked more like some sort of daimler....But yes, it was a huge car , and vere impressive
Well done young man. You've really nailed the missing link status of the Mark X / 420G in the evolution of the XJ saloons. My only criticism would be that a solid colour car might have been a preferable subject vehicle. I look forward to your views on the XJ and would urge you to do a separate appreciation of each series. The '72/'73 XJ12 in it's original short wheelbase guise and in Sable remains my personal paragon of cars.
@getinthevantim. IMHO the styling of the Mark X/420G is so very nearly "there", and I always preferred the later XJ series, however, the two-tone paint work on this example helps it to look more "svelte" and "resolved" somehow, and I would happily have this one as a classic cruiser. Cheers!
@@phillipevans9414 yes I agree and white wall tyres would be nice as well
I agree- the MKIX swooped side panels looked good with two-toned paint. The MKX with rounded, but straight side panels needs a single-color paint job.
Excellent video. Have only ever seen one Mk X and that was at a car show some years ago when I had a lovely Porsche 996 GT3. The Mark X was in between my car and a Series 1 E Type and both my GT3 and the E Type looked like toy cars in comparison. As you say, it was too big for the UK market and too expensive in the US. I don't think the Mark X is an ugly car but just not beautiful like the E Type, MK 2 or XJ6/XJ12. Jaguar set the bar really high when it came to styling in the 60's.
Another excellent video! It's worth mentioning a couple of things. For 1961 Ford's Lincoln introduced a quite shrunken Continental, Smaller than the Cadillacs, possibly a smidge less in size than the Mark X, yet packing the 7L M-E-L V8 packing 315-345 BHP (gross). Additionally it came as a 4-door convertible. It was a sales hit and demonstrated that not all US buyers wanted block long luxury cars (Cadillac even introduced a short deck Series 62 Park Avenue to compete). I think a fairer comparison would be Mk X v Continental. The last thing is, Europe a couple years later caught up (and likely passed) with the Mk X with the vast and tech filled Mercedes-Benz 6.3 V8 Grosser. Granted it was more costly and known as a car for tycoons, dictators, and potentates. but there can be a valid comparison with Mk X and the X derived Daimler limousine. I would like your reactions if you get to drive a Mk X!
I had one of these cars. Paid £50 for it, it had more wood around the cabin than Epping forest …. Top comfort the Mk10 was ..
As a child, I drove in one. My father was a driver for a company's pool of cars for the CEO's. I found it better than a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow. Sadly "our" two tone silver/black 420 was not the best one. Many problems, and after three years, the bonnet hit the battery poles and the car went up in flames. That was it.
When I was a kid in the UK in the 60s the Jag Mark X was a head turner and the name alone simply oozed coolness.
Looking at it now I'm amazed how "old-style / gentleman's club" it looks. Still, that front end is definitely a proto-XJ6.
The 4.2 litre engine sounded enormous to us but, as you say, a 258 cube was a bit pathetic in American terms in the 1960s.
From across the pond, Thank you. I was on the car show circuit for 20 years, only came across one Mark Ten. It arrived from Portugal with LHD, in BRG with Cream upholstery and green piping. A gorgeous big car. I saw my first E-type, at age 15, when an RN officer drove one to a local car wash. A drop head(?) in BRG and camel interior and top. It emerged from the car wash glistening, five seconds before its exhaust system! Narragansett Bay
Fantastic looking cars these, proper nightclub bouncer in a tuxedo looks. It also laid the groundwork for the phenomenally successful XJ so it deserves a proud place in Jaguar history.
The 420G were bought mostly by government departments for top officials use.
Another great video Ed. I rembmer very clearly the only time I had a ride in a 420G. The view over the bonnet was a bit daunting. I remember thinking "this isn't going to fit on this road". It did feel huge from the inside looking out. A few days later I got to drive an early XJ6 and it felt very much smaller in comparison. I can see why the Mark X didn't sell in the UK. It was just far too big.
Same size as a Silver Shadow.
@@stephendavidbailey2743 Feels way bigger.
@@grayfool Because you sit lower.
@@stephendavidbailey2743 Maybe. The 420 feels about 10 feet wide.
@@stephendavidbailey2743 Could they have been aspiring to nip at Daimler's heels?
these jags and their daimler brethren I think nowadays find maximum use as stately wedding transport. i recently saw a couple of them in Australia, all decked up for someone’s wedding. beautiful cars indeed! and Ed I loved that descriptor you used - it is absolutely apt. In Black this car would have been the choice of a cigar smoking velvet jacketed Cad Supreme. OR the automobile of choice, of a tuxedo-ed villain with a shady establishment behind the respectable frontage of a West-End Mansion in London. I would even think of Terry Thomas in a Tux and smoking a cigar.
I first saw electric windows in a MK10 - I thought it was black magic! Lovely example you have there, apart from the colour scheme
I have really enjoyed the Jaguars you've featured lately. I had a beloved garnet red Mark X toy as a boy, but never saw one on the road in the middle America, much to my disappointment. Excellent video, as always!
I remember these well I always thought it looked more like a squashed frog, but my family at some point owned every other jag in this period.
I can see that, now you mention it.
I worked for a used car dealer who tended to deal in this type of motor. Two things I remember about driving the Mark 10. The suspension felt like riding on a pile of interior sprung mattresses. The steering also felt a bit vague. My favourite Jag to drive. The 420. ( Not the 420G )
Sounds like the car needed new rear dampers and a power steering overhaul.
The MK10 my father had one, the first car I ever saw with electric windows.
Re: 'underworld links', Angus Sibbet, he of the infamous, Landa/Stafford 'One Armed Bandit' gangland killing, (elements of which inspired part of the screenplay for the film Get Carter), was found murdered on the rear seat of his very own Mk X, (MUP 11D), one winter morning in 1967.
I'm sure that the 420G had a couple of, (very minor), upgrades.
In a way, I think it kind of adds to the image of these cars that they are, indeed, a bit 'under the radar', so to speak.
Another great vid!
My late father had two Jaguar 420 "G"'s consecutively( the only visible difference to the "Mk 10" apart from the model designation on the boot(trunk in the "U.S") was the addition of a chrome strip highlighting the bodywork crease, in Africa during the 1970's.. Whilst I remember and drove, both cars fondly, the first in British Racing Green with Bottle Green Leather interior, I recall with special fondness. However I must also admit that being just over six foot, I had to "slouch" whilst in the rear seat, the rear headroom being too low to sit upright. There was also a disconcerting tendency for this model of the "Jag"
to "wallow"(like the American "land yachts" of times past) on corners when travelling at above average speeds. I only realised this when my father subsequently had a Mercedes Benz "350SE"(the first with the wrap around headlights) which I have to confess, was a far better engineered vehicle and which outperformed, the "Jag" on every level..
The best barges available in the 1960s. It cost about £2500 and competed in the UK with much more expensive and much less competent Mercs, BMws and Volvos etc. There was nothing from BMC or Rootes or Ford or Vauxhall that could even begin to approach the Mk10. And sheering box apart it was a driver's car. The engine boasted a lower compression of 8 : 1 rather than the 9 : 1 of the E-type but only lost 10 bhp even with enormous baffled silencers rather that the E-type's straight through cherry bombs.. As they became available secondhand they got the reputation of being "Bookies" cars. A Humber Imperial, which was far inferior in every way, was a bank manager's car or solicitor's mode of transport. These big jags not only went quickly, they rusted out in double-quick time too. That uni-body construction meant masses of unpainted dead air spaces and mud traps, which combined with the UK's humidity meant a body life of 10 years or less. The scrapyards were full of them and you could kick a hole in them anywhere except the roof. A sad end for such a magisterial car.
Back in the late 60's I never owned a MK10. However, my best friend did. My group of friends at the time would choose to ride in his car rather than the other cars we owned. It was a delight to be a passenger in and to drive. At the time I owned a two tone, (Blue on blue) Vauxhall PABX Cresta, which was a very American looking car, rear wing tail fins etc. I even had a USA sticker on the back rather than the usual GB sticker, oh and a passable mid west American accent. Occasionally we would swap cars for the week-end. He reckond my PABX was a better bird puller and being equipped with a huge front bench seat, instead of the separate front seats, with a consul in the middle, it was a better entertaining environment, if you know what I mean.
For over 50 years I've been a Jaguar fan ... Love to have one but the only one I can afford is the X-Type which is basically a Ford Mondeo which has real rust problems ... Looks like i'll have to stick to VAG products !!!
Comprehensive account of a sadly under appreciated car. I ran Mk 2 and E Type in the sixties but always admired the Mk10. Too big…..only flaw…drove a couple and preferred it to my employer’s Rolls. Don’t see many around unfortunately!
As an Aussie, I’ve always adored American cars from the 40’s to the 70’s. The 50’s cars being my favourite as they are just works of rolling art that seem to be very well proportioned aesthetically while being successfully audacious in said aesthetics. America absolutely built the best looking cars.
Here in Australia, our cars of the day benefited from that beautiful American styling but have slightly smaller/sensible European dimensions and were fantastically reliable and very easy to work on.
Despite my personal dislike of European cars,,, that mark 10 jag and the e type I have to agree,,, are spectacular looking cars. Interior/ dashboard is very boring and bland like most European cars but I’d look past that purely for the aesthetics of it the rest of the car.
I’d love a turquoise metallic mark 10 with a white interior, low, with whitewall tyres and powered by a healthy small block chev v8. That would make a fantastic cruiser man.
They never looked right, at all, to me. The track seems too narrow compared to the body bulk. Huge bonnet vs. smallish-looking cabin. All out of proportion somehow. Bit subjective as always though. I used to own a 2CV...
I was totally unaware of this car and may never have seen one, even with a lifetime of doing to car shows here in the US. Sad that it didn't succeed here, as I consider 1958-1964 to be the ugliest era of American saloon styling. This is gorgeous by comparison. Ironically, 1961 saw a lot of downsized new American models.
Of course the Mk X is a Villain's car. In the version of Herge's "The Black Island" most viewers are acquainted with, it's the wheels of the perennial foe of Tintin, Dr. Müller.
They built a Daimler prototype with the big Damiler V8, apparently blew away the XJ engined which caused an issue as Jaguar as that was the sporty brand so they never took a Damiler version forward. The Mk X was a real villain car, real 60s London car, not the lads who Rob the bank, but the lads who run the firm.
My Dad bought a metallic/silver/grey with red interior one of these in 1961. The official running cost was £12.00 a week while at the same time, that of the RR Silver Shadow was only £10.00. At the time, we frequently travelled from London to the south coast for weekends away, and we needed another comfortable car. Our Wolseley 6/99 was getting a bit tired.
I’ll always remember the first time we went out in it one evening to visit friends in Hampstead. When going back to the car in order to drive home, the nearside, rear quarter-light (13:37) had been skilfully forced open to gain access to the nearside rear door interior handle, the front passenger seat had been laid flat (using the chrome lever to the right of the seat) and a screwdriver had been used to force out the walnut surround that held the radio in place. Whoever did this, knew the exact location of the two securing points holding the walnut in place and didn’t cause much damage to the car. The car radio and its surround had gone.
The next day we visited Henlys to buy replacements. We were told there was one radio in stock, but there was an 18-month waiting list for the walnut surround. There had been a run on radio thefts from these new Jaguars and this was the way they were stolen.
Another memorable journey was one to Birmingham. The M1 had no speed limit at that time and the Jaguar could go very fast. So could the double-deck buses that went from London to the north, (Companies Standerwick, Ribble and Scout) which had rear engines that could take them to 100mph. Dad overtook one at 120mph but as we reached alongside the front of the bus, the car was sucked in towards the side of it. Fortunately we never collided, but the near 2 tons of car felt like a piece of paper in the wind.
There was a problem with the height from the road, or lack of it. I think it was about 6” when loaded. The car wouldn’t like to be driven over any of today’s speed bumps.
Dad used to hire this car to the studios who used it in programmes like The Avengers.
As usual superbly researched, presented and knowledgeable, if not perceptive and as expected excellent. I remember them being owned by the flashy below the salt types as a youngster, cars that my father called poor man's Rolls Royces, though in rather more graphic and non-PC language! I loved them but as a lover of original 'Lyons Lines' I loved the earlier 5-9s as they echoed my beloved XK 140 DHC! And sorry to be a boring old fart but I would again have preferred to see you driving the thing!
Excellent as ever!
Rob
My college roommate's grandfather had a then new early 70s one in Denver. Beautiful car and had a more classy air than Caddy, Lincoln and Imperial US competitors. It definitely stood out in a country club parking lot and was a great road car. (He once drove us from Boulder to Lincoln Ne for a football game). Unfortunately it needed more service than US or German luxury competitors of the time and Jag's dealer network was generally speaking just not up to snuff.
They all kept putting big steering wheels in them even though powered. Our '56 Caddy had it.
Part was inertia, fear of loss of control if a hose blew and the buyer perception of a large car always came with a substantial wheel. Buyer expectation is important.
My parents had one of these. A young policewoman in an old Mini crashed into the back of them, completely destroying the Mini. There wasn't a scratch on the Jag.
Stylistically a difficult car to like. It is bulbous, with funny mismatches like the wheel well outlines and the falling over front gives no contour to the front. The horseshoe grille also looks odd. The XJ6 did it right.
A family friend had a Mark X when I was growing up. I went in it a few times, and it was very quiet and comfortable - but even he said it was vulgar.Which it was.
That's a 420G, an updated MkX with a 4.2 litre engine.
And one hell of a lot more things too!
This came BEFORE the American muscle car era, and while no drag racer, it would've nearly held its own.
I had a friend that did wedding cars. It was the worse handling car I've ever driven as it had stupidly light steering and rolled over so far in corners the suspension couldn't cope, Nice inside. The friend had a Silver Clout which was great except very strange swith gear.