Standard Vanguard - the British 1940s car designed for the world

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  • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
    @JohnSmith-yv6eq ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was the rear seat passenger in a Phase 2 saloon which had a crash with a 1965 Mk3 Ford Zephyr when the ladty driving drifted over the centre line and we sideswiped the Zephyr...destroying the Zephy's entire driver's side from the headlights to the taillights.....a write off...and it also deflected into the ditch on that side of the road.
    The Vanguard had a 2 inch area of paint rubbed off the driver's mudguard.....

  • @tapaskumarbanerjee6863
    @tapaskumarbanerjee6863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My grandfather bought a Standard Vanguard 1950 model from MacNeil Barry Coal Co. Before retiring, he handed over the car to my father who maintained it very nicely. Then we brothers and sisters learned to drive on It. Superb car with wonderful suspension. Had a lot of joy in driving. Miss those days very much. Nostalgic.

  • @derekwalker3594
    @derekwalker3594 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I was born in Kenya, Vanguards were very popular there, an aunt & uncle owned one which they loved so much they exported it back to England when they came home & used it to tow their caravan all over Europe. My step father had one too, a lovely car. One thing you do not mention is that it was one of the first mass produced British cars to offer overdrive as an option With this option it is well able to take modern motorways in its stride as in effect it then has a semi automatic 5 speed gearbox making it a very relaxing car to travel in, & surprisingly fuel efficient too.

    • @skippmclovan1135
      @skippmclovan1135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just imagine what an engine that would have been with two extra cylinders on the end as a big six..!! It would have easily topped the BMC 'C' engine then.. : )

    • @merseymarineimages6283
      @merseymarineimages6283 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@skippmclovan1135 The last of the Vanguards was indeed a 6 cly in that they put the early Triumph 6cly in the car making it the Vanguard six. My father had and automatic vesion while I had a 1959 mark 3 estate with overdrive which I took to France, Spain and Portugal as well as being a daily driver until a tooth on third broke away. They were also prone to braking the back bearer as had happened to mine before I got it. The bearer had been replaced by a section of Dexion (SP) attached each sill and a section of a scaffolding running accross the car hold the back of the gearbox up. Try that these days!

    • @kawasaki5187
      @kawasaki5187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@merseymarineimages6283 Great story, my Uncle was a great fan of Dexion and it brings back wonderful memories, I keep buying Meccano !

    • @robt2151
      @robt2151 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My parents had a van version in Kenya in the early 60s, a neighbour had the estate version. I still recall the registration of ours, KAJ 912, my mother learnt to drive in it.

    • @leopoldonotarianni8663
      @leopoldonotarianni8663 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Were Ford Zephyr, Zodiac or Consuls popular too ? In your location

  • @lornablewettandlee504
    @lornablewettandlee504 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I fell out of one of these in the late 50s when I was 5 or 6 years old. My dad was driving and my mum was in the passenger seat, I was in the back. No seat belts in those days! I was singing "how much is that doggie in the window" And for some reason I opened the rear door, we were doing about 25mph according to dad, in London traffic. My dad remembered seeing me in the rear view mirror bouncing down the road with cars swerving to miss me, which thay all did. I was taken to hospital with cuts and bruises and it was a week before they discovered I had a fractured arm. What should have alerted the doctors that there was something wrong was my language. I wonder where I got that from! I still remember bits of it, I shall be 70 in July.

    • @pip393
      @pip393 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope you have a long wonderful life!

    • @johnwalker283
      @johnwalker283 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a kid I remember the terrible handling.

    • @nicholasspirosgreening8900
      @nicholasspirosgreening8900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi I know what you experienced I fell out of my dads model A I woke up in hospital

    • @awolwakefieldyorkshire
      @awolwakefieldyorkshire หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you find out how much the doggie in the window cost ? 🙂

  • @skippmclovan1135
    @skippmclovan1135 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The Standard Vanguard 2,188cc 4 cylinder engine was bullet proof as they say and with a good heft of torque. I believe they used replaceable cylinders liners, so a very long lived engine was possible, and they did a sterling job in the Fergusson 28 tractor with a smaller Zenith downdraft carburettor and with rpm governing of course. Many Fergie 28's still run perfectly on their original engines from seventy years ago..!

    • @outfoxthefox
      @outfoxthefox ปีที่แล้ว

      mine was 2032 cc

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Their only weakness is that they're a wet-liner engine, and in old age the seals tend to fail, especially on engines that have been left standing too long. However, they can be modified to eliminate the seals which should ensure they will run reliably for years.

    • @skippmclovan1135
      @skippmclovan1135 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidjones332 They were also used in the Triumph TR4A in 2138cc form i seem to recall, but i think they were 100cc less capacity in Standard Vanguard form (??) ..that engine in the Fergie 28 as we called them in the day (NZ) was a sheer delight to use..easy to maintain ..easy on fuel ..never gave any trouble whatsoever ..they just went and went and went ..for years and years, mind you that always regular pony club use, light work etc : )

    • @martinsmallwood9605
      @martinsmallwood9605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best bit is you can buy new liners and all the parts because so many fergys are still around .
      They are all Tea 20's .
      What is called the 28 is the later 28 hp version with the bigger bore .

    • @skippmclovan1135
      @skippmclovan1135 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​ @martinsmallwood9605 i loved using a low-timed red '28' during the sixties as a teenage kid for our suburb's local Meadowbank pony club on a very extensive part farmland part bush-clad area on the then outskirts of Auckland.. it was used for everything you can think of ..including pulling out smaller to mid-sized trees ..fencing ..feeding out ..grass cutting ..trenching ..transporting bales ..to fill it with petrol i took it 15mins either way on the road to the nearest BP, as it was road registered. Never missed a beat ..always started with immediate throaty vigour, and i absolutely lavished it with spark plug, HTs and contacts, filter, oil, grease, and air maintenance. it was bought for $500 in the early 60's, about the same value as a 15yr old 6 cyl family car would have been, such as Velox or a Zephyr. Good and simple days. Now gone. The contemporary stuff is now 100% 'controlled' by AI and satellite . . ? ? ? ?

  • @grahampenfold6121
    @grahampenfold6121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one of these in 1963-64. It was a 1949 model I think, 2litre with a radiomobile valve radio. My then girlfriend who later became my wife drove it in to Buckingham Palace to collect her ~Duke of Edinburgh gold award. Those were the days

  • @vijaymujumdar5617
    @vijaymujumdar5617 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My father, a forest officer in central India owned a black Standard Vanguard in Nagpur from 1952 to 1955. I remember riding in that vehicle with parents and siblings. A beautiful car indeed. He had purchased it from a retiring British Railway Officer.

    • @stephenbower5394
      @stephenbower5394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😊😊

    • @kenmaund2836
      @kenmaund2836 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I remember a member of the family owning one, solid and indestructible.
      When testing these old vehicles, you best learn to double de clutch if you want to change down while moving.

  • @iankings6405
    @iankings6405 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was privileged enough to be driving in the 50s still driving today, had so many of the old cars, best thing ever was the starting handle on a frosty day. such happy memories.

  • @tripsadelica
    @tripsadelica ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh what memories this brought back to me! My dad owned one of these back when I was about five in 1963 here in Melbourne Australia. The upholstery was the same colour as this car and I can remember, vividly, being ferried home lying on that back seat all rugged up after coming out of hospital when I had my tonsils removed.
    Dad loved that car but it was stolen and that was that. I do remember one incident that will tell you how tough these cars were. Dad had parked near our local shops in a newish suburb on the outskirts of Melbourne. The carpark had not been laid with tarmac as yet and it was still covered in chipped bluestone. Out of the blue a guy in a brand new Australian made first generation Ford Falcon roared into the car park. He had a couple of ladies in his car and he was showing off and hooning about. Well, sadly for him his car careened into dad's Vanguard. The net result was that the Falcon lost the complete left fender and the entire grill. The damage to the Vanguard? A scratch on the right fender...no dings or bumps at all. The Ford driver was furious with dad but onlookers just laughed at the errant driver and one lady ( I remember this to this day) told the guy, "That's what you get for speeding and showing off... don't blame the humpy driver...his car was sitting still, you twit!" With that my dad thanked the lady and we drove home.

  • @johnjb3205
    @johnjb3205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh what a great reminer for me. I drove one of these great cars for two years in the Egypt desert in the army. It was used to ferry the medical officer around. I was also the Austin ambulance driver. My car was Army green in 1950 . I knew every single mechanical part, because my job was to maintain it by what was called " Daily Tasks "even had to polish the grease nipples. But I was shocked that my wonderfull car was put in a scrap feid, because the flexible oil pipe frlom engine to dash, started to leak and there were no sparse , Same prloblem if the front shocks went faulty too.

  • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
    @JohnSmith-yv6eq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A relative by marriage had one that had been converted to a Perkins diesel engine in the UK...not a factory conversion.
    He said it was slow to accelerate but very economical in his trade as a travelling salesman...

  • @JohnDavis-ed5sg
    @JohnDavis-ed5sg ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I bought one of these for £10 when I was an optimistic 14 year old. It was one owner and had been sitting in an underground garage for years. I was such an inexperienced mechanic that it took me days just to get a wheel off, and I had no tools except a Halfords screwdriver and pliers (still in my toolbox 50 years on!). Of course I spent most of the time sitting in the comfy seat pretending to drive. I never moved it so I expect it was scrapped when the garage was redeveloped. A shame as looking back I can see what a sound original car it was.

    • @rickshaw2779
      @rickshaw2779 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The value of hind sight, I did a very similar thing with a Phase One Hillman Minx I was given. Very hard to find these days, but keeping these things just wasn't practical unfortunately.

    • @millbaymoll2420
      @millbaymoll2420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same thing for me and two mates, all 15 year olds, bought a non running Austin Big 7. We traded it for a 7 Ruby Saloon which ran. We kept it in my dads garage and as we didn’t have drivers licences, almost killed ourselves with carbon monoxide when we ran the engine!

    • @millbaymoll2420
      @millbaymoll2420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My dads favourite. A beautiful black car, like the one in your video, followed by a grey one and then another grey one with the later notchback body. I remember the body roll on winding roads, seen also in the video. My TR4 has the same Massey Ferguson derived engine; a nice link with my dad and the old days!

    • @jamesdouglaswhittaker4612
      @jamesdouglaswhittaker4612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had two of these beetle backed beauties . Thought they were wonderful . Solid as a rock , very comfortable and a great caravan tow car .

  • @briancritchley5295
    @briancritchley5295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a car nut born in 51 ( Australian) never owned one but knew people who did, they were a tough car.

  • @alfindigo
    @alfindigo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Dad bought one in the mid ‘60’ for £10 with a seized engine. He rebuilt it and drive it for years. We all loved it. He sold it to one of the Standard factory test drivers. He told my Dad that when they tested them, the Speedo needles broke because it would go well over the 90mph on the speedo. They had to modify them all before they were sold. Probably why people say they won’t go much over 70!

  • @billspence1799
    @billspence1799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember these from my boyhood. The last ones I saw were in 61/62 when in the RAF where station commanders had one as their company car

    • @mikelindsay6980
      @mikelindsay6980 ปีที่แล้ว

      As I recall from my RAF days they were the standard vehicle on RAF stations. In 1957-8 there was a problem with petrol supplies and to save fuel all the RAF Vanguards were fitted with governers to reduce the top speed to 40mph. But the guys in the MT department soon found out you could override the governers and go faster if you ran with the choke half out. Which of course had the effect of dramatically reducing miles per gallon.

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first glimpse of this Futuristic American looking Car, was in 1951, when I was 10. I was travelling with my family in our old pre-war car from the midlands to North Wales. There was a continuous line of them, ( about 20 cars ) being driven up to the Liverpool Docks for export, according to my dad. Not on Trucks, but driven seperately, and had protective tape on their chrome parts. A sight we saw again later, only with Jowatt Javelin Sports Cars.

  • @mototakahe836
    @mototakahe836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stumbled on this thank you so much . A friend of my Dads had one and I remember riding in it . I am 76.

  • @peterjohnson7290
    @peterjohnson7290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Phase Two Vanguard in 1961 and it was Built like a Tank! If i remember correctly it was 2088 CC, Just a small point about the radio, you had a Box of Valves in between the GearBox and the Dashboard as the Transister had not been invented yet!! Your film brought back a lot of memories Thanks Very Much.

  • @chrissmith7655
    @chrissmith7655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, my Dads mate had a Vanguard Pickupin the 60's, the only one I have ever seen. Many thanks love your presentation of all your uploads.From Nr Liverpool.

  • @davidatkinson2167
    @davidatkinson2167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't forget the brake master cylinder underneath the driver's floorboards.
    No split braking, the master cylinder does every wheel and a failure is no brakes.
    I also, apart from driving Vanguards owned two Triumph Renown saloons with overdrive on 2nd and top gear on the second one.

  • @koll789
    @koll789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a car from the era that just driving it and going anywhere was an adventure in itself.

  • @adamclarke7394
    @adamclarke7394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've only just discovered your channel, and you've hooked me as a subscriber! Growing up in Tasmania, we had one of these as our family car when I was a boy. My late father fitted "winter tread" tyres on the back because we lived in an area prone to snow. Not once did it ever leave us stuck. It even showed a clean pair of heels to a few four-wheel drives. Dad sold it, and the new owner drove it until it ran out of petrol one day on his farm. It never moved under its own power again. He left it sitting there to rust away. What a waste!
    I just did a quick tally of the cars my parents owned from the time I was born and the time my father passed away, and I accounted for 19. The split was interesting because there were 5 each from the UK and the USA, 4 Australian, 2 from Germany, and 1 each from France, Sweden, and Korea. His taste was certainly eclectic! It will be interesting to see if you come across one of our models from Down Under, and what you make of it. Keep up the great work!

  • @sidewaysid
    @sidewaysid ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My Uncle had one, he took his Mum, my Mum, and me to Blackpool for a day out but the big ends went on the way, we had to abandon the car and catch a train back home, he got the car collected, but it never ran again, it was plonked in his garden and stayed there, me and my mates loved it, we used to pretend we were driving it, I can still smell the interior, it stayed with me all this time from 1960

    • @garyfrancis6193
      @garyfrancis6193 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this English?

    • @robinburn4974
      @robinburn4974 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes ?​@@garyfrancis6193

    • @robertwoodliff5622
      @robertwoodliff5622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@garyfrancis6193...... very English ... Odd that .., Blackpool ...

  • @stephenluke2347
    @stephenluke2347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember these as staff cars at the RAF station in Tripoli , Libya in late 1950, early 1960s

  • @Beanerds
    @Beanerds ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad had one many many years ago in New Zealand , we used to call it , ' The Humpybum Vanguard ' ,, I remember as a child with my 4 brothers and sisters going on trips to the beach , visit relations etc and as I recall , none of us ever got car sick in this car , my older Brother was bad for car sickness , but the Humpybum did not .
    Thank you for the memories .

  • @julesmarwell8023
    @julesmarwell8023 ปีที่แล้ว

    ps nearly every Australian FARMER had one of these especially the ute version lots were still in service after 50 years. My Eliza was a lovely girl. Thanks for showing.

  • @brianjones4598
    @brianjones4598 ปีที่แล้ว

    My uncle had one of those. I remember him taking us from Doncaster to Filey for a holiday in his caravan on Primrose Valley.

  • @bigoldgrizzly
    @bigoldgrizzly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went 3000 miles round France in a vanguard standard estate in 1969. Did have one problem when gearbox mounting broke and ended up with handbrake cable holding it up and some seriously hot rear brakes !. A trip to the local blacksmith soon had this sorted.

  • @Snaptophobic
    @Snaptophobic ปีที่แล้ว +33

    With Standard's links to Ferguson (of tractor fame) I believe the Vanguard was the first British car to be offered with a Diesel engine option.

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      A new fact thank you!

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fergys came diesel but not to my knowledge ever in Australia. I knew of one decades ago with a 4cyl Perkins but not factory

    • @michaelsnaidero1671
      @michaelsnaidero1671 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​​@@ldnwholesale8552 oh yes they did I own one and still use it in my vineyard, it's a 1954 built tractor and runs like a clock ,heaps of them were imported and command a premium price above the petrol and tvo models,they are a great tractor with plenty of power to accomplish all jobs on the farm especially with the Ferguson implements made exclusively for them .They have the Standard 20 C Diesel engine that went into the standard Vanguard as well .

    • @allenjenkins7947
      @allenjenkins7947 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the reasons why Vanguards were popular with Australian farmers was interchangeability of engine parts with the "Grey Fergie". If you had a breakdown in the middle of planting or harvesting, you could "borrow" parts, or even a complete motor from the family car to get you back in the paddock while you waited for Ferguson parts to arrive. A particularly useful feature was the ability to pull the wet sleeves out of the Vanguard motor and give the Fergie an instant "rebore".

    • @peterrogers9257
      @peterrogers9257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. The standard motor company designed and built the diesel engine, in the hope that Ferguson would used the engine and they could use in thier cars.
      I would be keen to know what was the max engine revs of the diesel engine, when fitted in the car? As the tractor max out at 2200rpm

  • @allareasindex7984
    @allareasindex7984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father had a Dodge (sibling to the Plymouth, both from Chrysler) and sure enough, it had several styling cues similar to this Vanguard. The grille and taillights in particular. It also did not have a radio, but unlike my mother’s Ford, the windshield wipers were electric. The Ford had vacuum-operated wipers which worked brilliantly at idle, but slowed or stopped when accelerating or driving uphill! Her Ford did have a radio with tubes (valves) but she refused to “play the radio”. She said when you are driving you should pay attention and besides, “we have a perfectly good radio at home.” She would have something to say about today’s distracted drivers if she was still around.

  • @SuperHeatherMorris
    @SuperHeatherMorris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad had one of these in the mid 1950s and I think it was true to say it wasn't his favourite car. I remember going on holiday to Cornwall with Mum, dad, my uncle and aunt and their two children (that's right seven of us) and the whole holiday being plagued with a slipping clutch which was eventually traced to a leaking rear oil seal. The problem was solved by drilling a drain hole in the bottom of the bell housing and pouring copious amounts of petrol in the top to wash out the oil which came out the bottom. Different world.

  • @HowardLeVert
    @HowardLeVert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last time I saw one of these it was hiding under the wing of a Vulcan at the RAF Museum in Hendon! It wasn't just car makers that had to export though, the whole of British industry was told to "export or die!".

  • @SkepticalSteve01
    @SkepticalSteve01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought an old Phase 3 Vanguard in 1972 when my son was born, and it was quite a nice beast - “she’ll climb mountains in second gear”, one of my workmates observed correctly. It performed domestic duties for us quite well, buzzing reliably around central Auckland, New Zealand. Until one day it blew its head gasket. But I was young, borrowed a torque wrench from my father-in-law, and replaced the damn thing without much trouble.
    I wouldn’t dream of attempting such a thing with my Subaru today - back in those simpler times the cars seemed to be a lot more easily worked on than they are now.
    Standard Vanguards have completely disappeared from New Zealand roads now. After a while somebody thought it’d be a good idea to import used cars from Japan, and that’s what we’ve been doing for at least the past 50 years.

  • @tjm3900
    @tjm3900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometime around 1970 the ministry of defence sold off a bunch of these that I guess had been mothballed. It was funny to see these new looking old cars on the road.

  • @tetchuma
    @tetchuma ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That car looks so stylish! I love the rear wheel skirts. Very streamlined

    • @caw25sha
      @caw25sha ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wonder why they went out of fashion. In our efficiency obsessed modern times I'd have thought they made a worthwhile contribution to aerodynamics.

  • @garrington120
    @garrington120 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Standard Vanguard was one of the many cars our dad had between 1954 and 1970 and was probably the favourite of us 4 children because there was plenty of room for Mum Dads and the four of us on our Sunday trips from Alton Hants to Hayling Island and West Wittering .

  • @MartinHarris-ol6ko
    @MartinHarris-ol6ko ปีที่แล้ว

    I learnt to drive in a 49 vanguard the gear change was on the right hand side. There was eight in the family so that was handy. We all learnt to drive it. We kept it for about 15years.

  • @SillyMoustache
    @SillyMoustache ปีที่แล้ว

    I was born in 1948. My Dad was in the motor trade, and had one of these for a while. that fold down armrest in the middle of the front bench seat was my "special" seat. It fitted my 3 or 4 year old bum perfectly. No thoughts of safety belts or child restraints back then!

  • @schaumyb7445
    @schaumyb7445 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This a a great review Steph! My Grandparents bought one new in Australia in 1950 as the waiting time for an Australian built Holden was too long. I think that they were partially built in Melbourne at AMI , which made many Brands from CKD kits such as Triumph, AMI Rambler and Toyota as well as others. My memory of 1960's roads around Adelaide saw many Vanguards, they seemed indestructable.

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree, fairly common in Adelaide in the 50s and 60s. Largely forgotten by the mid 70s
      And yes they were Australian assembled,,, back when we had a motor industry

    • @adow77
      @adow77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ldnwholesale8552 The road from Adelaide to Pt Wakefield seemed littered with rural properties with Vanos rusting away in the backyard. We used to wonder about the mythical, very persuasive Vano salesman who must have worked this patch in the 50s.

    • @simonblair-beal3952
      @simonblair-beal3952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agreed, a lot have survived here in South Australia. Great torquey engine, very similar to the Fergy Tractor.

  • @michaelawford7325
    @michaelawford7325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We had a Standard Vanguard from 1953 to 1960, thinking back it featured in many happy memories of that time, when having a car at all in Britain was unusual. I particularly remember touring Scotland with a caravan too small for our and my uncles's family, so my brother and me had to sleep in the car, and got into trouble for leaving the radio on and running the car battery flat.

  • @allanalee3693
    @allanalee3693 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Stef. A Phase 1 Standard Vanguard was my first car. The owner had been a ship's captain who took his favourite car with him and registered it in every country he was stationed to. The bumper was a bit like a cheese grater where different plates had been bolted on. It was clearly his favourite car! The green leather seats with armrests were so soft like lounge chairs to sink into. Just radiated quiet and 'basic' quality. Everything felt 'solid'. The fuel system felt like it was a bit 'breathless' . I thought I'd like to go a bit faster on the highways so I chopped into two carbys and inlet manifolds with a hacksaw, muffler puttied the bits of them together, let it set over night, new gaskets, and lo and behold everything started up wonderfully the next day. No longer needed the choke with that bit of extra petrol. With the graceful overdrive the speedo cruised right up to and over 90 MPH. So I respectfully replaced the narrow 16 inch tyres to newer 6.50 inch ones. Good quality thicker rubber felt safer at high speed! Went so well for so many years with what felt like an extra cylinder pushing it faster - but with just the same fuel economy.

  • @billcowell
    @billcowell ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned to drive in one of these and passed my test in it in 1961. I don't share your enthusiasm for the column gear shift - it was a bit sloppy and ours became disconnected on my way home from my driving test. The video brought back many memories - the door handles, the window winders, the horn ring, the quarter lights and the massive front bench seat. I seem to remember a risk of catching your knee on the handbrake as you got out the car and occasionally this would release the brake. We also had to thump the B pillar to encourage the trafficators to come out. You mention the same engine was used in the Ferguson tractor. We had one of these on the farm but I later had a Triumph TR4 sports car which also used this engine with a couple of SU carburetors added.

  • @NSBarnett
    @NSBarnett ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had one of these when I was aged about 4 to about 7 -- seeing the ashtray in the middle of the back of the front seat (ie, for smoking rear seat passengers, or for curious kids to fiddle about with) and the catches on the quarterlights made me recall them from, what, 65, nearly 70 years ago!

  • @graemeleigh
    @graemeleigh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, here in OZ... my uncle had one through most of the 50s and early 60s and a bloke I surfed with in the 70s had one. Genuinely go-anywhere vehicles.

  • @sysmith9910
    @sysmith9910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the old man, had a Vanguard, back in early sixties; a big car compared to the Morris's, Austins, other British marques, here in Oz back then. We were parked outside a shop one day, when the starter motor jammed; - Dad just got out the old crank handle & hand cranked it to start. It was fortuitous that Standard retained some of its antique features!

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father did a delivery run in 1962, Reporoa, New Zealand in a Vanguard Standard utility (pickup for US). It was exactly the same grey colour.

  • @robertlucas6225
    @robertlucas6225 ปีที่แล้ว

    my father owned a 2nd hand standard vanguard here in England we as a family loved it especially trips to the seaside.

  • @philbrice
    @philbrice หลายเดือนก่อน

    My father was a Baptist minister in Australia, with eight children. Happy memories of all of us in the family black Standard Vanguard. Those bench seats crammed six in the back and the two smallest with my mum and driver dad in the front. My father English and loved British cars.

  • @Dibleydog
    @Dibleydog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Vanguard and could run it on a paraffin/petrol mix. I fitted mine with a Zenith 30VM carburettor, all I had to do was unbolt the float chamber ( two bolts ) fill it with petrol and that would be enough to get it to start. Then it would run regardless of what was in the tank.

  • @richardknowles4200
    @richardknowles4200 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was my dad’s first car in the 1950’s - remember us regularly driving out into Derbyshire at weekends. Great car at the time - built like a tank with loads of space inside. Happy memories.

  • @drwho534
    @drwho534 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a memory!...(a vague one at that) as I was only 3 when we first immigrated to Canada from Glasgow but this was dad's first car here in Canada. Thanks for another great ride and the memory!

  • @MegaPhil1951
    @MegaPhil1951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh Steph youve done it again. I owned one of these in New Zealand in the sixties and you have brought back so many wonderful memories Great show love you Phil xxx

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aww no way!!! So many NZ’ers commenting today.

  • @leopoldonotarianni8663
    @leopoldonotarianni8663 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Steph I absolutely love your presentations. You are truly talented and creative in your reviews. Entertaining and informative.
    You are so articulate and appreciative of vintage.

  • @johnadams3730
    @johnadams3730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My friends dad had a Beetle back when I was a child.I owned one for a while when I was 22, brilliant car.

  • @pattyeverett2826
    @pattyeverett2826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. As I live in the US, I have seen this type of video for US cars, but not British cars. The starting system on this car is the same as my father's 1947 Ford Pickup. i have a 1963 Ford Falcon with a three speed standard transmission. The pattern on it is the same as on this car(on the left side, of course).

  • @outfoxthefox
    @outfoxthefox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had one for my first car, and what I remember most was it was exceedingly good as a courting car.

  • @Thelivewire64
    @Thelivewire64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely saw them in early 1990s because of Dad's car club. Last Vanguard I remember was phase 3 sedan in NSW between Bathurst and Dubbo.

  • @dhall4363
    @dhall4363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driven a couple of column shift cars. Easy enough to get used to. Brother drove a column shift automatic van that had been converted to manual, with out changing the gear indicator. So drive was 1st , park was reverse etc.

  • @limyrob1383
    @limyrob1383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smiled when you showed the key number on the ignition lock. That was problem becuse car thieves would look through the rear window with binoculars, read the number and buy a key. This is when the keys were sold in garages on big racks with all the numbers. I had a 1950's Jaguar with the number on. but the mid 60s they were blank to stop this.

  • @briansearle8151
    @briansearle8151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did enjoy going back in time as my uncle had one which I used to ride in. An interesting fact about the engine is the same as the fergi 28 tractor.

  • @johneast7987
    @johneast7987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Dad had a 1953 model (Reg MNC 843) but an estate car. It was in that colour and had the same grill but it didn't have the aerial retractor. He had a lot of problems with the gear linkage getting all crossed up so bonnet up and fiddle about with them! Being a Barry Bucknall fan he changed the trafficators for direct replacement orange flashers and fitted Irving front seat belts. Triumph TR2 engine I believe.

  • @ianbutterfield1019
    @ianbutterfield1019 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought one of these in 1967 as my first car for £40 after passing my test and apart from the Fred Flintstone floors and 24 miles to a gallon it was a great car KDU 249 left some good memories.

  • @MrModelworx
    @MrModelworx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These always remind me of a Dinky model my late Dad gave me when I was a child, it was blue and I kept it for many years, no idea where it is now mind you!.
    Excellent video as always Steph.

  • @Thelivewire64
    @Thelivewire64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grandpa had a blue phase 2 sedan. Dad had a blue phase 2 wagon, a black phase 1 sloper back and a blue and white phase 3 6cyl wagon. Uncle had 1956 Spacemaster deluxe 4cyl (broke his arm hand cranking it once). After those 3 vehicles, Dad bought a p6 Rover and later a couple of Triumph sedans. I even had a 2500TC for a couple of years.

  • @les8518
    @les8518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic. Love your video. I worked for a Standard Vanguard in New Zealand. One I would like to mention. The accountant who also worked for the dealer.
    The gear change lever in his Vanguard was on the right hand side of the steering wheel. Not for getting that NZ drove on the left hand side the same as the UK.
    It was the only one that I ever saw with it.

    • @davidtaylor351
      @davidtaylor351 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The very first Vanguards from 1948 had the gear shifter on the right. And they didn't have rear wheel spats. (ie covers)

  • @alexweatherburn4390
    @alexweatherburn4390 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Standard Vanguard phase 1 was my first ever car reg number BCN 533, solid, tough and reliable.

  • @lloydbelle3406
    @lloydbelle3406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My late father had a Standard Vanguard in the West Indies (St Kitts) before he came to England in the mid-fifties. My dad never owned a car in the UK, so this video is the closest experience of my dad's car, all those years ago. Thank you.

  • @neville132bbk
    @neville132bbk ปีที่แล้ว

    One was just down the street in Dunedin NZ 🇳🇿 in the early 60s.....they were around but I don't remember them as anywhere as common as Vauxhalls.

  • @enigmasvids9615
    @enigmasvids9615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey there...drive it like you stole it. Take it easy...they're a big barge and the brakes are from the 50s. Love the beetle back look. I drove one when I was a lot younger. A wonderfully strong, long lived torquey engine too. Enjoy. 😎 👍

  • @gregbennet5560
    @gregbennet5560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Good idea having the camera in the back, it gives a much more interesting view.

  • @byLokie
    @byLokie ปีที่แล้ว

    Grandparents had one in New Zealand. They were small time potato farmers. On school holidays aged about 14 I would help them harvest potatoes and they would hook their Vangard up to a trailer and drive it in the potato field to load the full potato sacks onto the trailer. I used to drive the car. Uncles lifted and stacked the potato bags onto the trailer while I drove at walking pace..

  • @cbaboxsqueeze
    @cbaboxsqueeze ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The RAF seemed to have bought up the entire production of the pickup truck version of the Vanguard Phase 1. I trundled in one to various Maintenance Units in about 1959/60 it being fitted with a canvas top at the rear. Unit commanders drove about regally with fluttering pennant in Phase III estates. If very senior and thus entitled to be relieved of the chore of driving themselves then they would have a Vanguard saloon.

  • @robdy1386
    @robdy1386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad had two Standard Vanguards back in the 1960s, one was the estate version. My first car was a Citroen Traction Avant light 15,then I had two vanguards ,but they were very thirsty vehicles, never the less I loved them, All were ex army/RAF vehicles bought at auction from Ruddington.

  • @johnmckenna8989
    @johnmckenna8989 ปีที่แล้ว

    A familiar engine, used in the TR2, TR3, TR3A and TR4 Triumphs AND Morgans as well..........I rebuilt my '59 TR3A motor in 1972 and still get 55 lbs oil pressure....For a car I've owned 53 years, that's not bad......John (west coast, Can.)

  • @danieleregoli812
    @danieleregoli812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an incredible car that old Vanguard is Steph! Thank you so much!

  • @rowejon
    @rowejon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the 1970's I had a 1953 model, with overdrive on 3rd & the optional HMV valve radio with 4 presets. It had had one owner for 21 years, 2nd owner for a few months & I was the 3rd. I loved it.

  • @davemiller2987
    @davemiller2987 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this video! My family had vanguards from 1949 through to 1960 (we live in Canada). My parents had a 49, 51, 55, 56 and a 60. The 1960 was kept the longest, and I drove it for a while in the early 70s. Sad to say, our Canadian winters (namely road salt) finished it off. The motors in those cars were derived from the Ferguson tractor as you mentioned, and were practically indestructible. 20:00 They used a version of this motor in the early Triumphs and early Morgan’s. The cars were 20:00 comfortable, and would hold their own at 60mph. Good on gas, too. The heater was OK, except on the coldest days. A great car that almost nobody around here remembers.

    • @victorlyford-pike6100
      @victorlyford-pike6100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was the other way round, Ferguson used a Standard Vanguard engine. My father was the Standard representative in Uruguay so we had all of them, a Standard Eight, a Standard 14, a Vanguard Phase 1, a Phase 2 and a Phase 3 so I spent all my childhood and after in Vanguards

  • @TheMVberyl
    @TheMVberyl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I travelled in India in the 70's - these early fifties vanguards were very popular as country taxis.

    • @tirumalaikamalakanthamanan4847
      @tirumalaikamalakanthamanan4847 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      India had Standard Motors manufacturing Vanguards were made at Madras present Chennai, very popular in hill roads such as Ooty, Tirupathi etc. This one is with Slooping roof so nicely crafted, this was followed by Seden with bigger boot, there were later models of Std. Vanguards too. Very sturdy, reliable Cars my child hood memories of 1960's. Ananth Hyderabad India

  • @semadu6181
    @semadu6181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I live in Uruguay and, thanks to my maternal grandfather who taught me with great patience, I learned to drive when I was 15 years old in a Standard Vanguard similar to the one in the video, in black and with the difference that the rear fender did not cover the wheel. .
    Truly a strong, spacious, comfortable and, at least here, scarce car. I haven't seen another model of this car in years, it is very rare and that makes it special.
    Thanks for this great video!

  • @barbarybar
    @barbarybar ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my uncle Ben's Vanguard as a kid (EDN 456). The flip up aerial which you turned a knob to erect.

  • @philipdasilva6287
    @philipdasilva6287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. Loved cars and classics all my life. Never knew about this one. As they say, you never stop learning!

  • @johndean3475
    @johndean3475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spent my early childhood on the back seat of a Vanguard Mk 1 Wonderful old car !

  • @paulboyle6857
    @paulboyle6857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was one of these racing a few years ago(yes really!!) in the HRDC series.Same colour as yours & with the moniker HMS Vanguard! Underneath,of course,it was all TR3 with about 160BHP but still with column gearchange.Don,t know who has it now but worth investigating. I have seen an estate version in the Rugby area where I live.Wonderfull looking cars.Cheers.

  • @rjones6219
    @rjones6219 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember an uncle bought one in the mid 50s, and I travelled in it from Manchester to Sheffield.

  • @philipblick8887
    @philipblick8887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We had them in New Zealand (Aotearoa) my father owned one earlier than this model, his had a right hand gear-change lever and small Lucas headlights.

  • @phugemawl
    @phugemawl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was my Dad's first car, I passed my successful driver licence test on it . Bulletproof beast !

  • @bilko529
    @bilko529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dad was an mt driver in the raf in the early fifties and he drove one as a staff car . He spoke very fondly about it .

  • @jonathangriffin1120
    @jonathangriffin1120 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 73 and I remember Vanguards being popular with farmers when I was a kid. My dad always said it was down to their rugged construction.

  • @colinfrance6926
    @colinfrance6926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely video. Brings back happy memories for me as we had a new 1952 model which we kept until 1959. I was a little boy and would stand up in the back for most journeys. Solid as a rock. Wonderful times.

  • @michaeljohnson9421
    @michaeljohnson9421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's fascinating to see how detailed the design is in some respects. The dash and front grille treatment are very neatly done. And yet the rear lights look like they were stuck on as an afterthought, without a plinth or recess. Even the number plate looks like it was just bunged on a bracket at the last minute. The reflectors are definitely an afterthought - they became a requirement in 1954, and slightly unusually the legislation was retrospective. All cars had to have them, even if they weren't fitted originally. This meant that many cars ended up with aftermarket reflectors, stuck on wherever there was a bit of spare space at the back end, even if the reflectors didn't face squarely to the rear.

  • @michaelnorton6227
    @michaelnorton6227 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first car was 1948 Vanguard, bought it at the age of 18, it had a new paint job, irredecent blue paint work, it didn't have the little parking lights and had a right hand gear change that would have been the American market, I live in Australia.

  • @geoffbarnes9175
    @geoffbarnes9175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to live in Wauchope, NSW, Australia. There were many Vanguards sold in this district. One Vangard driven by Bill Edmunds lead the round Australia rally, in about 1955, over horrendous roads for quite a time until it broke a shock absorber or spring. We had a TEA Ferguson with a Standard 4 cyl motor. Great memories.

  • @davidsmith5523
    @davidsmith5523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad had one of these. His first car was a 1927 Rover. All his cars were old when he got them by the way. The Standard Vanguard was black. I can't remember the car but my older brother can. It's nice to see this vehicle still going.

  • @nandakumara268
    @nandakumara268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a 65 year old from India. I do remember this car was quite popular in India and now recollect seeing quite a few on the roads in the mid sixties. Along with the Morris Minor this car was mostly owned by Doctors in our area.

  • @Jaxs2
    @Jaxs2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's a car I used to adore... never seen any for a long time ... fantastic to see one ..thank you ... appreciated Steph 🙏

  • @kittenmisho7744
    @kittenmisho7744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes indeed, you gave me great memories with this car. Thank you

  • @michaeltreadwell777
    @michaeltreadwell777 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That was brilliant Steph - obviously ! No idea when I last saw one of these in any guise. Over 60 years ago, I remember 3 people having these, in the Beetle Back, Booted Version and the Estate Version. They just look so solid and reliable, and as I remember, so comfortable. Thanks for sharing this Steph - what a great find. Take care 🙂

  • @blasgrana5877
    @blasgrana5877 ปีที่แล้ว

    At Peru sometime at the 60's it was my father's first car. The last time I found one at Lima was at mid 90's.

  • @andrewmorton9327
    @andrewmorton9327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My father had a second hand Vanguard estate, RFG281. It had a diesel engine and sounded a bit like a tractor. Polishing it was a bit of a chore as it was so big! It had a radio and the amplifier for it was in the boot.

  • @Squirel
    @Squirel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Dad had a phase 2 nearly 60 years ago. We travelled our country (New Zealand) in it. Very reliable and happy on any road surface!

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PHASE two ---wow, It's half a century since I've seen that word applied to a car.

    • @Squirel
      @Squirel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDaiseymay LOL yeah, sounds more like an alien invasion