Making a Table Saw Extension and Cross Cut Sled | I Like To Make Stuff
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- We made a cross cut sled for your table saw with an extra storage cabinet that extends your table saw surface! Check out the plans!
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Many people have asked me about the cross cut sled that I use in the videos. I made it long time ago and never showed it was done. If you aren't familiar, a cross cut sled is a squared jig that wood can ride on that will result in a perfectly 90 degree cut on the table saw. I used a lot of laminated plywood pieces pocket-holed together to make a front and back fence. These fences were attached to a plywood bottom panel. To ensure that it consistently runs straight along the saw blade, you attach thin strips of wood to the underside that ride in the table saw's miter slots.
That is basically it, a sled made of flat wood that runs in the miter slots, except that it isn't perfectly straight yet. To square up the back fence for consistent cuts, you use the "5-cut method." My cross cut sled was as close as I cared to get it, but be as exact as you like. Once the sled was square, I added some paste wax to the underside so it slid smoothly across the saw.
The idea behind this cabinet is that it would be a place to store the cross cut sled as well as other table saw items; extra blade, throat plates, my dado stack, and even my adjustable miter gage. There is room under the existing table saw extension to the right of the saw, but I thought I could use this cabinet to extend the saw's surface to the left as well.
I build a simple box on top of a wider platform with some drawer slides mounted on one side. The extra width at the bottom would allow for some adjustable feet underneath the cabinet without poking through the interior space. I also added some threaded inserts to the spot where the cabinet touched the table saw. The cast iron wing on my saw had some extra holes on that side so I could run a bolt through the saw and into the new extension cabinet. Using the adjustable feet, I made the top of the cabinet flush with the top of the saw and bolted them together.
Besides having room for the cross cut sled, I added a few drawer slide to the interior space to accept a sliding storage panel. This shelf would hold all of the other things I use on the table saw. Now, you could totally make some custom holders for blades or other items, but I'm super simple and just used some screws. I made a simple handle out of a scrap 2x4 and the interior storage space was finished!
Having the cabinet's extra surface space is nice, but it isn't quite big enough. I struggle with wrangling a full sheet of plywood on my table saw when ripping pieces. By adding a flip-up extension wing, I can now rip pieces off of a full sheet without it awkwardly tipping off the side fo the saw. The brackets I used to lift up the wing are rated for 300 lbs each, so I'm totally not worried about it collapsing under the weight of a semi-supported sheet of plywood.
I really love this new shop fixture. It solved a few problems I had with organization and saw capacity. Building a new, more accurate cross cut sled was an added bonus that rounded out the project. This cabinet can work for any saw you may have. If you use a contractor saw that folds up, the cabinet can be bolted to the side of it as well. If there aren't any hole in the end of the saw wing, you could just clamp it together from underneath. If you are interested in making one of these extension wing cabinets for your saw, check out the link to the plans down below!
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One of the (many) reasons I love your channel is the exceedingly healthy balance of actual project videos vs. shop improvement videos. Lots of makers these days only do stuff for their shops... Loved the video!
Love the fact that you show the mistakes as well as success! Nothing worse than a "perfect all the time" show !! Thanks for the inspiration
Never new this was necessary but now that I understand it better I will be able to make better cuts when I get a table saw. Thanks
Finally someone who mentions their mistakes as they go along. We all make them and they are very important to mention as it saves others from making the same ones. Thanks for adding them in your video
Thanks for showing the pocket hole boo boo. Let's me know I am not alone in this world. SKILL is directly proportional to ability to correct mistakes.
Milt Clark I thought the same thing. And when he had the blow out when he drilled the holes. It’s a great teachable opportunity to share how you work around. Cheers to you!
A much wiser (and somewhat older) man than me once said, "Experience is directly related to the number of failures, miscalculations, and piles of equipment destroyed."
No. You are not alone. ;o)
I recall a saying that you don't tell a carpenter by what he builds, but by how he fixes his mistakes!
Lol. First time I read this, I thought you were calling him "boo boo".
Everyone makes mistakes to hide them is where the skill comes in. Chances are no one will ever know but you, if you dont tell anyone about them.
Once you do you show everyone knows your human.
William NG has a great video to insure your that your back stop is perpendicular to your blade and explains how to use the five cut method to dial in a perfect 90 degrees to blade relative to the back stop. He also has a great video on how to properly chuck a Drill Bit.
William also uses digital Calipers for an even more precise 5 cut method.
Nice idea on the storage for the sled.
I love the 5 cut method. But since I'm OCD it also drove me insane to get rid of the .000004 out of square I just have to deal with....
I really appreciate watching you get yourself in and then out of difficulties.
I am a 76-year-old cabinet maker and I have "retired" but whoever really retires. I am getting the plans and will build one for my table saw when I get one for my hobby shop. I can tell without using this it will be GREAT!!
If you ever needed to adjust your DIY leveling feet/bolts more than once, I'd dremel in a small slit at the tip so you can use a flathead screwdriver to make small adjustments from above.
Also, I feel like I've heard the entire ILTMS music library in this video, and am reminded of how on point it is. One of my favorite parts of these videos...
Or you could just screw the bolts from the top
@@afonsoferreira5171 👍 my thought exactly !
Afonso Ferreira And use longer bolts to fit a locking nut to prevent them from working themselves out of alignment 😊
Or hire a team of ants to hold it in place
A small thing to add to the sled is a chamfer cut into the bottom of the back piece on the side that faces into the sled. This will allow sawdust and other debris to be pushed into the space by the material you're cutting instead of having that junk pressed up between the back piece and your material, ruining your straight cut.
Great video and always looking forward to more!
I was going to suggest the same thing
Yea, out of the other 378 crosscut sled builds I've seen on youtube, 347 recommend a chamfer at the bottom of the push fence.
The first benefit of not gluing it down comes to light. Nice sled otherwise. My next project is one of these and a shooting board.
Why not use a little puff of air or a brush to remove the debris from the locating surface? That's why you work with wood instead of metal... lazier.
Judiciously choose the front-to-back distance of the sled to accommodate popular wood sizes - maybe 24" plus a tad?
The salt trick works great. I've been using it for over 50 years now...I was told by a chemist friend that the salt will disolve in about 20 minutes. I have the same pocket hole jig. I don't know why one would want to continually upgrade this jig every time they come out with a new one. i have one that i bought over 30 years ago and it was the very first version that they made. All of aircraft aluminum except for the drill inserts which are steel. Still works great!!! Nice to see that someone made the same mistake that I did with the hole setting!!! I use those threaded inserts a lot - love them!!! Hex bolts - much better idea. Nice, well thought out video.
Finally, very informative instructions for a crosscut sled, not only how to build one, but why one is needed.
Thank you.
" Oops, I made a mistake. Here's how I fixed it. " Fantastic
Here's how I fixed it
🔥🌋🔥
😅
I may forget everything else but that important lesson! :-)
That's some of the best parts, few others leave those in
I'm so glad to hear you say "I actually goofed and..." Real world projects are filled with small goofs and it's good to see pros make small goofs too. Keep up the good work!
Agreed, one thing about Bob's videos is that he shows the mistakes that are common and how to fix them or avoid them in the future
I love the fact you don't edit out your mistakes, the best way to learn is by mistake and seeing someone else's mistakes makes the learning videos that much better. Thanks for being human like most of us!
I really appreciate that you acknowledge that sometimes plans change or things don't work out as you are making projects. Being able to adapt your plans on the fly makes for a more realistic learning experience.
Now that is how to make a professional grade instructional video. Great job! I had learned several things about a cross-slide that I wasn’t previously aware of. TY
More of these garage wooden organization videos! Love loved love it! And of course your renovations are fantastic! I love the wooden builds
Hi, i dont speak english language, so i could understand a little what you are speaking , but learn a lot !! many thanks, i am from Colombia living in Panama. i am a self study carpenter!
I have my pieces for a cross cut sled cut, but I had not put them together yet. I had some questions. You answered my questions in this video. I appreciate the way you explain things. You offer the reasoning behind the plan. Love that you have kept this simple and focused on the key elements for the sled. The design for the extension is awesome. By the way, I made your miter saw station and it makes me happy. Thanks, Bob!
Thanks so much! That's awesome to hear!
Wow, your glue lines are incredible straight and even. Mine always look like I did it on a boat. Great job!
Great project. I really love the storage idea for the sled, I need that.
Oh how cool is that! Finally a place to stow the sled and accessories! Well done.
I like this upgrade. I have a small garage workshop and a small table saw that I wish could handle a sheet of plywood. This looks like something I could work with in the small space I have in the garage.
Bob you are a certified clamp champ 🗜 🏆
The method by which you squared the back fence was really helpful and new way for me, Thanks Bob, great content. Greetings from South Africa
Make sure your squar is true. Look on youtube how to do that. I've bought new framing squares that were not even close.
I’ve watched a lot of crosscut sled videos and this is, by far, the simplest one I’ve seen. I also modeled my miter saw station off of yours because it was so simple but really effective. I’m sure shop furniture isn’t your favorite thing to work on, but you have an amazing knack for making it accessible to beginners like myself.
Nice that you offer plans. there is invariably somebody in the comments section asking about them. Although that usually makes me shake my head. I'm just a hack Carpenter with some tools. But after watching your extremely well documented video, I don't know why someone wouldn't be able to make a simple box.
That extension wing is seriously, super strong, stable, and sturdy. FIRST!
I was expecting a clamp champ sticker, not disappointed!
Learning about woodworking and research table saws. Once again a homeowner so can't wait to do DIY stuff in me house.
Really like your down to earth video which included correcting the occasional “OOPS” which all us fellow woodworkers encounter. Some great ideas on the table saw storage. Many thanks!
Hey Bob ! You should consider making a pool (billiard) table. It will be a huge success !!!!
Skillful that he is, I'm sure he can. And will absolutely smash it.
When you use your framing square to line up the fence try sticking a couple of nails in the slot about 12 inches apart then you can butt the square up against the nails rather than rely on sight or feel. Nice build.
Really love that you got the brackets, saw they weren't perfect, and instead of writing them off as junk, you stayed positive (on camera at least) and just figured out how to make them work.
I like that you are so practical. No big deal with the pocket hole boo boo in this application. Your sled is square within 1/64" should be good enough for anyone!!!
That's reality and I am a perfectionist!
Thank you
An outstanding video Bob! What a great addition to any table saw. So useful and cleaver. My saw is on wheels ( garage shop) to be moved around as needed (wife's car) but I am going to look into this further to make the concept work in my situation. Thanks for the video, another helpful addition to my work working!
Great point Jb. I wonder how I could make it and use castors instead of feet.
HMMMMMM! Jim
Same here. I am going to try adjustable hight casters on my box build.
Good stuff! You could also insert the adjustable feet bolts from the top for easier adjustment. Not much difference between the bolt head and the bolt “foot” touching the ground but then you can easily adjust it from above.
Thanks! (Was going to suggest same if someone else hadn't.) :-)
Ingenious tip about adding salt to a glue up to help prevent the pieces from sliding out of alignment. Simple solution to the hinges not being square, using tongue depressors as shims, brilliant!
Well done indeed! Great addition to the table saw! Thanks Bob!
Does anyone else get super happy when they see "clamp champ"
YES
Every time 😂
Never heard of using salt to keep boards from sliding while gluing them up. Awesome!
Keep on going - wish you the best from over here in Germany!
And I wish the from over here in Austria (NOT Australia)
I tried this once. Ran inside and grabbed the salt grinder from the kitchen....Bad idea. Make sure the salt is fine.
I've never really liked the idea of adding salt to a glue joint... just feels wrong somehow lol. If you don't use half a bottle of glue, it won't slide around too bad.
@@BEdmonson85 Me too. Salt attacks everything given time.
@@BEdmonson85 Use inert grit, like very fine sand, near-powdered hardwood sawdust, and any very fine, hard particle. A matching kerf running near full length of the joint filled with ice cream sticks forced into both pieces aligns and strengthens.
Dowels are a bit of trouble, but prevent joint slip. #10 copper wire either spaced along the joint as short pegs, or mashed into a shallow grove in both parts will not dull saw blades but will prevent slip.
I need more clamps......Great idea that I will definitely use to enhance an old saw I inherited. Thanks for leaving in the few errors you made which allows you to show us how to fix them.
This "The Best" demo video I have seen, OUTSTANDING! Thank you!
2:10 Tip!: I also added some pepper, oregano, red peppers, some unions, cheese and, salami. Although it was a first for me, didn't taste all that bad!
You missed an opportunity to try out pocket hole plugs. Plug the error-holes. If it does not turn out well, no big deal; they're out of sight.
When doing the 5-cut test, you always turn the piece such that the side you just cut is against the fence.
Put a stop block on that back of the sled that hits the table before the face of the fence gets past the center point of the blade.
Those things you call guards are called inserts. A guard covers the blade from above.
This video provided the answer to three issues I have been needing to address in my very small shop. The need for more storage space particularly for my table saw jigs, and out-feed table and a method for leveling tables that I already have in my shop.
Excellent video I got a lot out of it and will be applying what I learned in my shop. Thanks for the tips!!!
I loved your humility in admitting your mistake/s. I love this whole idea and plan to make it for my table saw. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Could you make a Bits video on types of plywood and their uses?
..and a video on glues, how they bond and how much to use would be useful.
@TOFU豆腐 Thanks - I'll go have a look. Cheers!
@TOFU豆腐 Good summary - thanks TOFU
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Can you even imagine how frustrating it would be to have to preface every other fastener with a disclaimer? "Now nails aren't for every situation, but for this, they're just fine."
You can't be a woodworking TH-camr without apologizing for using pocket holes every time you use them. It's in the manual.
Robin, I am getting a new saw next week and you have given me the inspiration I need for side extensions.
I think it's a great build! It's simple, easily constructed, and makes a great storage place for things that usually don't have a home or aren't as close as they need be when you need them.
Let's face it!, who wants to walk half way across the shop to grab some clamps off the peg board or search through a cluttered drawer to find your dado blades? With them being at the machine, where they're needed, you get much more done... (that way you have time for other things!!).
When that guy told you, "You can never have too many clamps", you took him seriously.
Hey Bob hope you’re doing well. I have a question though! I was under the impression that those 90° table wing extensions, are proud of 90° due to the weight they will experience when fully extended? Either way truing them to a perfect 90 was probably a great idea but I’m curious to know will it hold that 90 for months to come!
The cubbyhole for saw accessories is genius by the way love that idea
Same thought here , those extra degrees are there for a reason since they are supposed to hold about 300 pounds.
I think it might be designed with the assumption that the material it's holding up will sit flush when extended and would be responsible for stopping it at 90 degrees. The bracket then is designed slightly proud to put a little extra force on the joint to counteract any weight on the table. He should have tried mounting the table up before seeing if he needed to add shims. Works either way, but I would expect the proud angle on the bracket isn't a manufacturing flaw.
Ryan Legner yes. I believe you’re right. Good point
3.29mil subs and still uses a silver tape measure. True legend, and a great channel!
Love your videos. This is exactly the kind of project that I love and have been needing.
I really admire that you keep the goof-ups in the video. It’s valuable to see how you work around it.
As a novice, your channel has had a lot of value for me.
Thanks!
From your Example of the 5 Cut method, it looks like you did it wrong. You turned the un-cut side forward instead of against your fence. In addition, a couple things to really improve the accuracy, 1. use the largest piece of wood you can on the sled to get the longest distance. 2. use a caliper instead of ruler, the accuracy is much better.
Another item to use, when squaring the fence, place a straight edge in the cut kerf of the sled and use the square against that to your fence.
I know you were just hacking together a quick sled, most of these ideas are for your many followers when building their own. Thanks Bob!
In fairness, he did say to check online for the specifics on the 5 step method and wasn't really demonstrating how do do it. :)
"" you can pour on salt. you dont need much''
puts on a kilo salt XD
We’res the pepper I’m hungry 😋
True testament to the evergreen content of TH-cam! This just popped up, pretty randomly. Conveniently enough, I need to build an extension for my new Sawstop... I also really appreciate how you show and fix your mistakes in this video. I know all the mistakes don’t make the final cut, but seeing you (or anyone) make mistakes and show the solution is always helpful.
Really love that you leave in the "oops" moments and how to fix it or work around :)
What about using melamine as the base board. It would be more slippery
Melamine works great. Better if its only coated on the bottom so you can get a little traction on your work piece. Don't need it slipping around on the top while you're making cuts. You could probably rough up the top a little with some 40 grit or glue down a piece of sandpaper if you wanna go all out.
Using sanding sealer on MDF works good as well. Leaves a smooth waxy finish.
Shop: how many clamps u want?
ILTMS: Yes
Another answer. More. Why are clamps always 1” too short? Nice build!
Awsome build. It give me some inspiration for my own tablesaw. Thank you for sharing your idea!
Nice and simple instructions. Thank you!
you should have done the 5 cut before securing the fence
He did!
Went to the clamp store and said, 'give me all you have'
Wow, great idea!! That is a great way to basically force yourself to stay organized but yet have it accessable when needed. Always a big obstacle in every wood shop. Will definitely incorporate this into my shop.
Hello I'm French and I look very much your's video, you explain very good the process to create any thinks. Yank you very much
Shouldn't you test your fence for square before you screw it on all the way across, by cutting some wood?
Wait I like to make stuff there can only be one move along bucko
Great video and I love how you address issues that come along whether that be issues that you made or issues with the products you use (you buy) that you have no control over. Some people mess up and then redo the clip so it makes them look better. We’re not perfect. We mess up. And owning it and correcting it is a good way for all of us to learn.
Thanks for the videos. Love them.
It never occurred to me to check the angle of the supports. Everything about this build made me rethink my own space. I have large pieces in my office that I don't need in front of me all the time (but will take up a ton of space, like my giant paper cutter). Building something like this to store it would save me so much workspace. Thank you for the inspiration!
Step 1: Buy $1000 worth of clamps
😂
That's the dream
Extremely well done video, but hated the music. Very distracting and gave me a head ache.
Thanks to you, I'll be making a similar one for my table saw. Great ideas, like the storage for blades. Just well done! Thanks for sharing.
offsetting the rear fence of the sled to leave room for the supporting/safety blocks was a great touch i'd never seen done anywhere else. I just dismantled my old sled because the rear fence warped, i was getting ready to build a new one but didn't have a good place to store it. i had considered "behind" the saw but didn't want to modify my outfeed table to make it fit or leave a gap between the outfeed table and the saw. this is a perfect solution!
Pocket holes are evil and must die :-D
This video was the simplest explanation I have run across for how to make a crosscut sled. The storage features and the table extension were just bonus' for me. Thanks so much for sharing.
I made this attachment after seeing your video. I have been using it well over a year for all kinds of things besides large sheets of wood and to store my crosscut sled. Great idea, thanks!
Really enjoyed the project and storage of the sled. Great idea. Also I really appreciate that you leave the mistakes in and tell us about them!!! What a huge help that is. Thank you!
Didn't know about those brackets before watching. Now I will mount EVERYTHING WITH THEM!
They're great!!
I used them for an outfeed table attached to the back of my cabinet saw
Love it! Great build that's simple, yet still has a ton of awesome upgrade features.
That is an awesome little project, which adds a lot of functionality to your tablesaw! Simple things are the best! Who in the world are the 350 yoyo's that didn't like this? Man, oh man, some people...you'll never please, so why bother, and why worry?, because they'll make themselves old before their time with all those sour notes, while the rest of us will be groovin', and sailing along just fine without them!! Thanks, bro, for sharing this!
Thanx I enjoyed. Like the storage for the sled & all.
I LOVE this channel. Professional through and through. There isn't a single video that fails to teach clearly and understandably.
I didn’t even know I needed this until now. You the man, Bob!
Quite probably the best how to video on TH-cam
Own it you rock.
Awesome video!! I really appreciate the simple and straightforward explanations that you provide. Thanks!!
I learn so much, so much ideas, so much materials, you are amazing
So great to see something simple that is so useful. Have seen so many cumbersome sledges that do exactly the same. Great job
Appreciate you acknowledging a mistake with the pocket holes. Makes the video real world. I am a beginner and seem to make a lot of them 🤣
I do love watching you at work. You make it look so easy, which is kinda inspiring. This is a great project. Thanks.
Thanks Bob! Been meaning to make a crosscut sled for a while, love the simplicity of your design and the thorough, yet understandable explanation!
Excellent, thanks!
Thanks for the no nonsense approach to getting stuff done, loved this project it gave me inspiration for my table saw set up.
You have a big talent to explain things!
Most instructive cross cut sled video I've watched. Also like how you point out your mistakes or situations you get into and how you corrected/adapted. That's the toughest part for me.
Thanks for teaching me about a crosscut sled and how to build one. Very informative
It’s nice to see a creative and functional project that I can actually build and use with my Table saw .
The storage extension makes a lot of sense as a place to store the sled . Running a magnet bar in
the storage cabinet might be good for the blade wrenches and small components .
Thank you .
There were a lot of great tips in this one! I might actually get around to making a cross cut sled with this one. Thank you for keeping it simple!
This is fantastic and gives me so many ideas. Thanks!