@@springsoldier6317 if you fail the speech check to get even more money the game punishes you for pushing your luck. that's the point of the charisma system. If it didnt do anything there would be no loss top spamming it all the way every time
High Charisma in Bethesda games is always hillarious: Random NPC: "You killed my mother, burned down my house and stole everything I owned! My only reason to live is to get revenge!!!" Player: "Uhh....sorry...I guess." (Success) Random NPC: "Well ok then, have a nice day!"
'..... I expect to be paid..' - 'And I'd love to pay, but you took all my money, remember?' I don't know why, but the whole fucking delivery had me in tears.
Raymond Mendez Why? Just reselect the now grayed out dialogue that you previously chose earlier. There's no reason to reload a save just because the NPC said "no" to you're RED dialogue option.
Preston: The Minutemen are about helping people out at a minute's notice. SS: You mean, helping me find my son and then destroying two powerful organizations. Preston: Yeah; that's right. SS: and I get to be the only one who calls in artillery. Preston: Yes sir! SS: and you will raise my Synth Son at the Castle! Preston: You got it! SS: Also, carry all my junk Preston: Anything you want sir. SS: Now make love to me. Preston: Sure thing, general
It's funny because you're going so much deeper into this encounter than I ever did. I usually just roll up and blast the drug dealers, I literally didn't even know you could talk to them.
If you talk to Wolfgang first, say you'll talk to Trudy, and then convince Trudy to pay Wolfgang, you'll have them both as merchants in that place, with Wolfgang selling chems and medicine, which is really useful if you want to get rid of a bunch of stuff in survival mode and don't feel like going all the way to Diamond City or Bunker Hill.
@@Niobesnuppa Oh shit, really? I always took Trudy's side for the guaranteed shop. Didn't know Wolfgang was also a merchant, much less that you can have both of them trading at the same time.
Did you just convince 2 gun toting drug dealers to be afraid of you AND give you all their money in a calm and collected tone, all while being unarmed?
All you need to never fail at the early game stages is a clean grey suit and some glasses that give charisma. That's 3 extra charisma points right there.
John Doomguy So wait. Is the not intended pun about us being the same person, about you using "What's going on here" or are you just asking what's going on with "we'll bang Ok" and there really is no pun in your comment.
Wow, the guy for Nate actually did a really good line read when saying "that guy's a maniac". Never actually heard the dialogue, so I was kind of surprised.
I don't like the voice actor because it limits the game, but when it hits it really hits. Like playing Nora and when you meet Shaun? You can really hear confusion and relief, and the desperation when first meeting synth Shaun is just 👌😌👌
The problem with both VAs is not their quality (they have some pretty good to amazing lines), it's their inconsistency. Which is honestly hard to avoid in a game with so much dialogue tbf, but still a game like Cyberpunk managed just fine with 2 amazing performances with much better written dialogue to the T
RuggedALAN Me: *Quick saves upon entering boss's office* you wanted to see me? Boss: Yeah you're fired Me: you mean I'm getting a 15 dollar raise Boss: get the hell out of my office Me: *loads quicksave* *loading screen* you wanted to see me? Boss: yeah you're fired Me: you mean I'm getting a 15 dollar raise Boss: yup and million dollar advance see you at lunch Me: *quicksaves* and maybe a Ferrari sitting on gold Dayton's *loads quicksave*
"I'd love to pay you, but you took all my money, remember?" At least Bethesda was smart enough to remember that he wouldn't have any money for this to be an option but still added it XD
that's how Courier Six survived being shot in the head; the bullet simply backed off, the Courier pissed himself and become unconscious, and Doc Micthell took all the credit for no reason.
I dunno about "save scumming", but even tho it's just a game, he's scumming in GENERAL real hard. I feel like this guy's scummy in real life too.., probably not, cuz he can't tho. Anyway, I'm waiting for the incoming hate. Hit me with your hardest shots, guys!
Yeah high charisma is fun. On my first play through I went the silver tongue route because of my experience in New Vegas (if anybody hasn’t played that game, it’s really op to prioritize dialogue skills. You can even skip the final boss by talking.) so I went the high charisma route. Really good early game money maker.
@@Rad1antGeneralZelcina You would need 11 charisma to have completely zero chance of failing a speech check, which is easy enough with black-rimmed glasses, bobblehead, and special book.
What I hate about this game is that just about every social event is that you just need charisma. I remember when my brother was playing that one fall out game with the legion and ncr, he was on a mission to bust some fake guard, and there were many ways of going about it, one of them was to point out he shot 3 times when there were 4 baddies which requires a int check but he didnt have enough int but another way was he shot one of the baddies who were actually faking death ( you could have at this moment use medicine to deduce they were still alive ) which started a 5v1.
Fallout New Vegas is the game you're thinking of and that mission you're talking about is the first quest you do for The Kings. And yeah, those choices make Fallout NV stand out from 3 and 4. Writing is more branching and smarter.
That's every fallout game my guy. Having high charisma in fallout means you can do anything. I mean you can convince legate lanius to just fuck off at the battle of hoover dam
@@JohnDoe-hj9fhmazing... Every single thing you said was wrong. The OP was talking about accessing to branching solutions through INT and medicine checks, not charisma, which is a feature not present in 3/4/76 And charisma is not an autowin button mainly because you still need resources and equipment to *reach* legate lanius, which involves quite a lot of fighting Of course, you can apply some strategies and some secondary quests to get companions, and minimize the amount of fighting you must do, but doing a specific build along the entire game to specialize on a skill is preeettyyyy different from an "auto win button" and requires foresight anyways Heck, even picking all the [speech 100] options with lanius you can fail the conversation if you pick the wrong option
I always make my charisma 8 when I choose the perks at the start of the game, with the vault-tech rep, then since leveling to level 3 is easy af, I just put those points into charisma to get 10. I love talking my way out of things, instead of guns blazing. I feel it's an under-estimated power, to have a silver tongue. Great video, showing off what you could do. I always just tell em to scram, but now I see a better way to get some early caps. Thanks!
A pity you cant talk things your way in Fallout 4, but New Vegas plays a whole lot more differently when you just talk to people first. One playthrough i just killed mostly bugs, all the humans were just talked down.
In my opinion charisma is the most useful perk overall. The others help you through the game, but you can play it without them if you are skilled enough (and this is not the hardest fallout anyway, lets be honest). On the other hand, there are many things you cannot do unless you have high charisma.
There should be a game that allows you to level up your speaking ability specifically by talking to others, and getting different dialogue trees. Something similar to Fallout New Vegas, but instead of choosing to max your score from the get go, provide the opportunity to opt out of combat experience in favor of social experience. Something like that.
I did a 10 charisma build and put on the militia hat in front of the museum of freedom. I passed the speech checks here all without fail. Then got to diamond city passed every speech check there to every damn quest. Then I did the brotherhood quests. When I convinced that brotherhood guy to rejoin the brotherhood without fail I got suspicious. This check has always been known to be hard. Then I learned 11 charisma is a 100% success.
Wonder why this video blew up... Everyone also seems to be missing what seems to be the main point of this video; showing what you can do with charisma. You wouldn't read a guide that had half the pages missing, would ya?
Because people are uneducated (hell even educated are pretty bad too, they just hide it under a veneer of know it all snob) and form opinions on things they know nothing about.
I think the reason people are upset about this video is because it's misleading. The video is titled "High charisma at the start of the game is the best" and features him succeeding three speech attempts (after savescumming), avoiding two potential speech options by choosing different dialogue options, and failing a speech attempt, followed by him proceeding to just kill Simone and Wolfgang. The video claims up front that it's about using high charisma, and features little actual usage of that charisma followed by basic pistol killing when the charisma options fail. It also doesn't have any editing of the quicksaving and loading screens cut out and kinda just makes the viewer watch those in their entirety. While it's not a bad video in any sense of the term, it's just kind of deceptive to the viewers who clicked on it thinking they were gonna see some Jedi Mind Trickery at work.
Lil Miss Jay Does it really matter, Mr. Pony-Man. The answer is no. How about you just shut your little mouth because nobody cares enough to read your whole essay on a funny fallout video.
Lil Miss Jay Yea thats fallout 4's charisma system for you. I was expecting this to be a sarcastic video and show him having 10 charisma and failing the dialogue options. Obsidian please help us.
Cheating in a SP game means nothing, if anything it adds fun and replayability , especially with the addition of mods. How can somebody think THIS is cheating though?As far as I can remember, you can max out charisma from the begining?
Just the Black guy also lower shop prices, companion buffs, settlement augmentation, settling things peacefully, intimidation, taming of animals, getting uniques
You can skip entire quests with it too. Like getting into vault 81 iirc, they want you to do some fetch quest before they let you in but you can just skip it with high charisma.
Completely true, I miss those long and unique dialogues from Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Really sad Fallout 4 would have been better if they put this dialogues in.
The assumption by the developer is that most players won't spend literally hours of their time over the course of the game reloading quicksaves to get more caps or pass what are truly pretty meaningless charisma checks.
@@DoctorGeniusPHD “Hours of their time” like 10 seconds? For an outcome far more profitable, even more if your character is charisma focused? Yeah nah.
To get max level, you’d pretty much want max luck to gain max exp. then get perception and charisma to get the points for successful ones too. You could get clothing for the rest to jack up your points and get better chance at success in talks.
Not only you can make wolfgang lay down his weapon and give you his money, but you also can tell him to buzz off, Trudy's reaction to that is priceless.
The best ending is the peaceful option. You gain two vendors plus Trashcan Carla hangs out there sometimes, making it a useful spot to dump loot or purified water.
I didnt realise the wide amount of speech check options that were available for the drumlin diner scene. All i ever really know about is the asking for more money but i hadnt noticed that u can take their caps at max amount, gain something else from wolfgang if u settle it and also manage to keep both sides alive thats sick.
You can do all this with low charisma because the game lets you quicksave whenever you want. So keep reloading until you get a speech check success (even the red ones on low charisma have like a 25% chance), then quicksave again after you succeed again and repeat through the whole convo.
one thing I hate about fallout 4 charisma checks is that you say the EXACT same thing, but has a chance to succeed or fail based on your charisma... tf
I save after every check in every game I play. I like exploring dialogue options, I'm not gonna make a new game for each fucking check, that's ridiculous.
Wicked upload soon fellers
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I think they disliked your video in protest to Fallout 4's bullshit Creation club. So it's not your fault, buddy U_U
Player : Hi
*Final boss kills themself*
Charisma 1000
Lwin Lwin Oo sike, there is no final boss
This is why Fallout New Vegas was awesome and I was praying for another spinoff from Obsidian, but oh well...
honestly i felt like the final confrontation with lanius was a little lame, most people have 100 charisma by then, and it kinda felt to easy
Stormy fallout nv wasn't a spin off,it was actually a direct sequel to 1 and 2. Fallout 3 and 4 are the actual spin offs (technically)
Fallout 3 in a nutshell
“You took all my money remember?”Moments of continuity like that are a very rare treat in this game.
@@springsoldier6317 if you fail the speech check to get even more money the game punishes you for pushing your luck. that's the point of the charisma system. If it didnt do anything there would be no loss top spamming it all the way every time
@@springsoldier6317 that happens all the time in bartering lol, people are spiteful and petty believe it or not
@@springsoldier6317 Yeah, that… really isn’t uncommon.
@@springsoldier6317 in every fallout if you fail it always result in same situation
Its like they tried to do a good game at the start
I imagine his friend afterwards is like 'What the fuck happened?!'
And he's like, 'I-I-I panicked, he was just so..... persuasive'
You killed me😂
😂😂😂😂😅 must be what girls say about me I hope
*Cut to Nate doing this the entire time he was talking:* 👌🏻
@@BIG2hats yeah, you hope
@@BIG2hats sure bud
The fact that a guy without any armor or weapon is eable to convince an armed stranger into giving away all his money is hilarious
He pulled out a dead cat and threatened to wipe it on him. Works every time.
Napoleon got away with that a couple of times.
@@3rdEarlRussell I mean that's Napoleon we're talking about, not some random vault dweller
@@Darthwgamer That's Napoleon reincarnated.
TWO armed strangers
- Let's calm down and lower your weapons, okay?
- Okay, okay just don't do anything crazy.
- Now... give me your money.
- THAT'S IT UR DEAD
xD
😂😂😂
You just loosely repeated dialogue yet for some reason that was pretty funny.
Fang!!
*loads a different save*
High Charisma= Jedi mind trick
Miguel Lopes High Charisma apparently means Reality Warper.
This is not the good game you were looking for.
Made a new video of this
Funny you mention, I had a high charisma in Kotor 2 and made two gangs fight each other until they all died.
it's over asshead I have the high ground
High Charisma in Bethesda games is always hillarious:
Random NPC: "You killed my mother, burned down my house and stole everything I owned! My only reason to live is to get revenge!!!"
Player: "Uhh....sorry...I guess." (Success)
Random NPC: "Well ok then, have a nice day!"
Now, if only Bethesda implement some sort of NPC with high charisma and the ability to counter Charisma talk with another Charisma talk.
@@ohlookitisacat7404 now you're just talking about lawyers
Bethesda only? Pretty sure you can do things like this as well in the other Fallout games.
@@ohlookitisacat7404 or better dialogue lol
@@femmemachete indeed you could
'..... I expect to be paid..'
- 'And I'd love to pay, but you took all my money, remember?'
I don't know why, but the whole fucking delivery had me in tears.
I'm glad the game even acknowledges it.
I started wheezing 😂
Glad I wasn't the only one. I lost it
As he said with a completely blank expression
But then he said that he’ll pay him when it’s over, so that destroys the continuity.
(High charisma at the start of the game is the best) -has to reload
Pddubs LeDubs I understand
Not his fault. Tis shit game design.
Pddubs LeDubs Gotta love shit game design and RNG, eh?
eh its a chance, I like that over just being able to do whatever the fuck you want. Even people with high charisma can get ahead of themselves.
Pddubs LeDubs well. Its more like chances.
The fact you're unarmed makes this so much better
who ?
He pulls out a gun and shoots them at the end, he's armed (just not visibly).
He meant to say that his weapon wasn't drawn. People in the wasteland respond better when your weapon is drawn in certain circumstances
New video of this
lol
Hyperion. He ment that he wasnt pointing a gun at them. They could just have shot him on the start.
"He's a maniac"
*proceeds to turn 3rd person on for aiming*
Hahaaaaa
I thought I was the only one who quicksaved before risky dialogue options 😅
Raymond Mendez nah I do it all time
Raymond Mendez Why? Just reselect the now grayed out dialogue that you previously chose earlier. There's no reason to reload a save just because the NPC said "no" to you're RED dialogue option.
Not the only one
LinusMLGTips yes there is a reason, if you choose some options and go wrong, others may not be available, or they can try to kill you as well.
Looks like i have to start doing that too lulz
*_charisma_*_ 999_
*_vault 111_*
*_dude:_*_ no dont take shaun!_
*_kellogg:_*_ ok chill man_
"ok chill man" haha i get it
Elder Maxson: THEY ARE ABOMINATIONS! THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!
SS: No, *YOU* need to be destroyed!
Elder Maxson: *(Destroys Prydwen)*
Preston: The Minutemen are about helping people out at a minute's notice.
SS: You mean, helping me find my son and then destroying two powerful organizations.
Preston: Yeah; that's right.
SS: and I get to be the only one who calls in artillery.
Preston: Yes sir!
SS: and you will raise my Synth Son at the Castle!
Preston: You got it!
SS: Also, carry all my junk
Preston: Anything you want sir.
SS: Now make love to me.
Preston: Sure thing, general
me:And now make me breakfast
him:ok
me:no bacon
him: DIE DIE DIE*shoots*
+Matthew Geiberras that got sexual very quickly, I like
*takes all his money* “if things go sideways, we’ll back you up”
A real bro
Best wingman ever
Lmao how can anyone kill him after that? I want to buy and play this just to back him up
Lmfao irl rn
Jewish tricks
*unarmed man in pajamas threatens two men with guns*
Unarmed man in pajamas threatens two men with guns *and succeeds*
@@GunSpyEnthusiast
Only after a savescumming. XD
It's funny because you're going so much deeper into this encounter than I ever did. I usually just roll up and blast the drug dealers, I literally didn't even know you could talk to them.
Talked to them the first time now I normally sneak up on them and grenade them or something. Well until I completely gave up on playing this game
If you talk to Wolfgang first, say you'll talk to Trudy, and then convince Trudy to pay Wolfgang, you'll have them both as merchants in that place, with Wolfgang selling chems and medicine, which is really useful if you want to get rid of a bunch of stuff in survival mode and don't feel like going all the way to Diamond City or Bunker Hill.
@@Niobesnuppa this!!!! Surprised nobody else has mentioned this.
@@Niobesnuppa
It's almost like resolving a purchasing issue by peacefully exchanging the money solves most everyone's issues 🤔
@@Niobesnuppa Oh shit, really? I always took Trudy's side for the guaranteed shop. Didn't know Wolfgang was also a merchant, much less that you can have both of them trading at the same time.
That's all I have....
Want to make some money?
Mharks Baeson lol
Bahahah! Then he says “I’d love to pay ya but you just took all my money, remember?”
I think that would be after Trudy pays them.
Mharks Baeson I'm sorry I'm doing a survival of the fittest and you ain't fit noob ya weak weaker than a radroach so yeah piss off
Mharks Baeson and I'd love to pay you but you took all my money
Sooooooo... He wants to pay him for taking his money?
Did you just convince 2 gun toting drug dealers to be afraid of you AND give you all their money in a calm and collected tone, all while being unarmed?
Ricebowl - not visibly armed
"WATCH OUT FELLAS, THIS GUY'S GOTTA SILVER TONGUE SO SHARP HE CAN CUT CANS OPEN WITH IT!"
"OH FUCK DUUUUDE"
"HE'LL KILL US ALL!>!."
You know with the power of RNG and savescumming you can do everything.
the game really lacked karma+charizma+lvl difference+scary gear percentage to count those chanes lul
Hidden Yeah, reloading failed charisma tests is pretty dirty, it's effectively cheating
Trump: the Art of the Deal
fucking hilarious
Yeah looks like someone finally read his book
I see what you did there. Kudos to you.
Only the parts where it fails
Trump is best president.
Way better than Biden.
All you need to never fail at the early game stages is a clean grey suit and some glasses that give charisma. That's 3 extra charisma points right there.
I mean, pickpocketing in Skyrim, same deal.
With the power of quicksave, I am a true hero.
Shipoopiism new upload of this
And you can do that even with an arrow in the knee! XD
Smiley Lachflash no, you cant. Everyone knows the only think you can do with a arrow un the knee is becoming a city guard.
“I use to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow to the knee” -every skyrim guard
Shipoopiism am i the only one that thinks quick saving in fallout is like cheating. I never use it because i feel like it ruind the experience
Now handover all your money !!
Next second, what's going on here ?
Doomguy Ok
John Doomguy So wait. Is the not intended pun about us being the same person, about you using "What's going on here" or are you just asking what's going on with "we'll bang Ok" and there really is no pun in your comment.
Im so confused by reading all this
John Doe dude, I'm with you. I'm dying right now😂, but so confused
Wow, the guy for Nate actually did a really good line read when saying "that guy's a maniac". Never actually heard the dialogue, so I was kind of surprised.
Oh in the DLC especially, Nate's VA has fantastic line reads. People really hated on F4 for hiring a PC-VA, but I think he did great.
I don't like the voice actor because it limits the game, but when it hits it really hits.
Like playing Nora and when you meet Shaun? You can really hear confusion and relief, and the desperation when first meeting synth Shaun is just 👌😌👌
@@alexrecrem9094 just because you like to pretend to be a girl, doesn't mean the VA isn't shit girly boy
The problem with both VAs is not their quality (they have some pretty good to amazing lines), it's their inconsistency. Which is honestly hard to avoid in a game with so much dialogue tbf, but still a game like Cyberpunk managed just fine with 2 amazing performances with much better written dialogue to the T
"Quicksave skill has leveled up"
I made a new video of this
Hey man, the conversation is shit, a big part of it is luck.
Ryan Bissonnette "quicksave 50% faster!"
If only this could happen in real life
RuggedALAN man that be gr8
Alright so those are the winning lotto numbers *Opens quick save*
RuggedALAN i would be rich asf
RuggedALAN Me: *Quick saves upon entering boss's office* you wanted to see me?
Boss: Yeah you're fired
Me: you mean I'm getting a 15 dollar raise
Boss: get the hell out of my office
Me: *loads quicksave* *loading screen* you wanted to see me?
Boss: yeah you're fired
Me: you mean I'm getting a 15 dollar raise
Boss: yup and million dollar advance see you at lunch
Me: *quicksaves* and maybe a Ferrari sitting on gold Dayton's
*loads quicksave*
RuggedALAN u would get stolen with no monies
"I'd love to pay you, but you took all my money, remember?"
At least Bethesda was smart enough to remember that he wouldn't have any money for this to be an option but still added it XD
1. Ask for money (Green)
2. Ask for more money (yellow)
3. ASK FOR EVEN MORE MONEY (RED)
Player: go back into the gun barrel
Bullet: okay take it easy big guy
that's how Courier Six survived being shot in the head; the bullet simply backed off, the Courier pissed himself and become unconscious, and Doc Micthell took all the credit for no reason.
I laughed way too hard at the loading screens
Why?
Because I thought it was funny, silly.
What do you mean?
Purple Haze yeah what do you mean?
Albert Twangle new wicked upload on my channel why not make the same comment their feller
Save scumming increased to 100
I dunno about "save scumming", but even tho it's just a game, he's scumming in GENERAL real hard. I feel like this guy's scummy in real life too.., probably not, cuz he can't tho. Anyway, I'm waiting for the incoming hate. Hit me with your hardest shots, guys!
Save scumming is a thing if you didn't know.
Alfredo Hernandez you're just taking this toooo seriously dude just relax a lil
Alfredo Hernandez are you high?
Alfredo Hernandez Professor X would want you, seeing you have the power to know a person's life just through a video he posted.
I play the same way : *strange noise* ->instant quicksave, walks 5 meters quicksave again :D
😂
Yeah high charisma is fun. On my first play through I went the silver tongue route because of my experience in New Vegas (if anybody hasn’t played that game, it’s really op to prioritize dialogue skills. You can even skip the final boss by talking.) so I went the high charisma route. Really good early game money maker.
Ilike it because you also get xp bonuses for each successful dialog on top of that.
What a great game. Only game I've played where I can talk a bosses ear off and still beat him in the end.
When your charisma is leveled up completely it never fails
It can fail but it's like a 1 in 9. It failed when I tried to get Paladin Brandis to come back to the BOS despite me having max Charisma
@@Rad1antGeneralZelcina You would need 11 charisma to have completely zero chance of failing a speech check, which is easy enough with black-rimmed glasses, bobblehead, and special book.
@@anakinlumluk2136 what if you have all of charisma maxed out then get the bobblehead? Would that do the same thing without the glasses or book?
@@SVD63Ninja Yes, your charisma goes to 11, glasses will put it to 12 but it only will be worth for buying/selling
@@TasukuMuncha gotcha,ty
"I expect to be payed" "but you just took all my caps so"
I raised my charisma in the early game alone, helped me a lot on the way of conversing yourself out of hostile situations. Pretty fun,
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What I hate about this game is that just about every social event is that you just need charisma. I remember when my brother was playing that one fall out game with the legion and ncr, he was on a mission to bust some fake guard, and there were many ways of going about it, one of them was to point out he shot 3 times when there were 4 baddies which requires a int check but he didnt have enough int but another way was he shot one of the baddies who were actually faking death ( you could have at this moment use medicine to deduce they were still alive ) which started a 5v1.
Fallout New Vegas is the game you're thinking of and that mission you're talking about is the first quest you do for The Kings. And yeah, those choices make Fallout NV stand out from 3 and 4. Writing is more branching and smarter.
High strength intelligence and perception give you special options too if you dont have high charisma.
That's every fallout game my guy. Having high charisma in fallout means you can do anything. I mean you can convince legate lanius to just fuck off at the battle of hoover dam
@@KalilIllinois more branching yeah but New Vegas becomes an insta win game with high charisma just like the other fallouts
@@JohnDoe-hj9fhmazing... Every single thing you said was wrong.
The OP was talking about accessing to branching solutions through INT and medicine checks, not charisma, which is a feature not present in 3/4/76
And charisma is not an autowin button mainly because you still need resources and equipment to *reach* legate lanius, which involves quite a lot of fighting
Of course, you can apply some strategies and some secondary quests to get companions, and minimize the amount of fighting you must do, but doing a specific build along the entire game to specialize on a skill is preeettyyyy different from an "auto win button" and requires foresight anyways
Heck, even picking all the [speech 100] options with lanius you can fail the conversation if you pick the wrong option
Not this guy fault that this conversation system is garbage, I don't see why anyone would dislike this video.
I think that was the joke he was going for but the it was unclear.
Light Yagami I think so too.
Why are there this many dislikes?
wow man conversation system is not garbage, it is quite good actually, those are very hard to make
If you play Fallout New Vegas you will see much more elaborate and realist conversations, mainly regarding to charisma, persuasion or intimidation.
I always make my charisma 8 when I choose the perks at the start of the game, with the vault-tech rep, then since leveling to level 3 is easy af, I just put those points into charisma to get 10. I love talking my way out of things, instead of guns blazing. I feel it's an under-estimated power, to have a silver tongue. Great video, showing off what you could do. I always just tell em to scram, but now I see a better way to get some early caps. Thanks!
A pity you cant talk things your way in Fallout 4, but New Vegas plays a whole lot more differently when you just talk to people first.
One playthrough i just killed mostly bugs, all the humans were just talked down.
In my opinion charisma is the most useful perk overall. The others help you through the game, but you can play it without them if you are skilled enough (and this is not the hardest fallout anyway, lets be honest). On the other hand, there are many things you cannot do unless you have high charisma.
Gibbelblonk He was talking about talking out of things in fallout 4.
There should be a game that allows you to level up your speaking ability specifically by talking to others, and getting different dialogue trees.
Something similar to Fallout New Vegas, but instead of choosing to max your score from the get go, provide the opportunity to opt out of combat experience in favor of social experience. Something like that.
Why level 3? Why not use the "You're Special!" book in Sanctuary Hills for the free SPECIAL point?
*Kellogg taking Shaun*
Me: No.
Kellogg: Oh shit, ok.
*Institute destroyed
Me back in the cryo
Roll credits*
I did a 10 charisma build and put on the militia hat in front of the museum of freedom.
I passed the speech checks here all without fail.
Then got to diamond city passed every speech check there to every damn quest.
Then I did the brotherhood quests.
When I convinced that brotherhood guy to rejoin the brotherhood without fail I got suspicious.
This check has always been known to be hard.
Then I learned 11 charisma is a 100% success.
Wonder why this video blew up... Everyone also seems to be missing what seems to be the main point of this video; showing what you can do with charisma. You wouldn't read a guide that had half the pages missing, would ya?
ZornieKins that what I said
TH-cam's been fucking with things, I'm not quite sure why this was recommended to me... seems weird.
I bet
the video says charisma is the best which is not
Hot Shame
Been meaning to watch this 1 year ago finnaly not lazy
Gaming XP haha
Same actually.
SAME OMG It’s been in my recommended for over a year
Same
Me too
Max intelligence and endurance at the start are also great too, that way, you can maxamize your XP gain and health when you level up
"I would like to pay you but you took all my money remember?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Hands over "all" his money after you threaten him*
"Wanna make some easy money?
Well this comment section is surprisingly cancerous
Right doe
U right as hell
That's because the video is.
et 37 kk
tbh honest it was to expect
he should have edited out the trys that didnt work ffs
Oooooof, that save scumming was painful.
“If I help you, I expect to get paid.”
“I’d love to pay you…. But you took all of my money, remember?!”
LMAO
"It looks like I gotta take what's mine by force" he says shortly after lowering his gun and handing over his money to an unarmed stranger
Shit, man, comment section is so toxic. Why do you even bother reading?
Exactly the same opinion here :)
And comments are mostly garbage under anything, sadly.
Because people are uneducated (hell even educated are pretty bad too, they just hide it under a veneer of know it all snob) and form opinions on things they know nothing about.
Mister gives me motivation in life
Because the human always has hope, I have hope in finding something not toxic.
Because I have plenty of Radaway.
the quicksave before saying anything is so real
“JUST KEEP CALM ALRIGHT?!”
I love how he went from terrified, right back to a hardened criminal.
I think the reason people are upset about this video is because it's misleading.
The video is titled "High charisma at the start of the game is the best" and features him succeeding three speech attempts (after savescumming), avoiding two potential speech options by choosing different dialogue options, and failing a speech attempt, followed by him proceeding to just kill Simone and Wolfgang.
The video claims up front that it's about using high charisma, and features little actual usage of that charisma followed by basic pistol killing when the charisma options fail.
It also doesn't have any editing of the quicksaving and loading screens cut out and kinda just makes the viewer watch those in their entirety.
While it's not a bad video in any sense of the term, it's just kind of deceptive to the viewers who clicked on it thinking they were gonna see some Jedi Mind Trickery at work.
Lil Miss Jay Does it really matter, Mr. Pony-Man. The answer is no. How about you just shut your little mouth because nobody cares enough to read your whole essay on a funny fallout video.
yeah but have you considered fuck you though
+Mullokadz I did make a new video of this
Oh cool! Will check it out. :)
Lil Miss Jay Yea thats fallout 4's charisma system for you. I was expecting this to be a sarcastic video and show him having 10 charisma and failing the dialogue options.
Obsidian please help us.
Why are people disliking the video? It just shows what you can do in the game lmao
Besnada the world may never know
Probably because they think he's cheating but I have no problems cheating in a singleplayer game.
Marc Kenneth I don't like cheating on single player makes it boring
Cheating in a SP game means nothing, if anything it adds fun and replayability , especially with the addition of mods. How can somebody think THIS is cheating though?As far as I can remember, you can max out charisma from the begining?
Besnada yeah but I didn't max it out I think
amazing editing skills, i love that you edited out all the loading screens and saved us all some time!
bro choose the sarcasm dialogue option
3:16 calmdown satan
Why is everybody is even triggered on this
Because RNG dialogue is scummy, save scummy
Of course the racist shitwad gets triggered by everything. Neo-nazis are literally born to hate and piss pants in rage.
What?
The replies just prove that humanity needs a good nuking. See you all in hell.
EazyE187um careful not to cut yourself on all that edge
You already know them quicksaves comes in clutch wen things go sideways.
Wow what a chill guy. He doesn't seem to mind at all that you just robbed him.
I never knew there was dialogue for stealing his caps, then demanding he pay you for your help. Really goes to show what they think of.
I find it pretty funny how triggered everyone got over 1 simple video
But it's just so poorly edited. Like, geez.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's not even edited apart from setting the start and end point
Wicked upload soon fellers
GTA5Player1 no edits I recorded this off of PlayStation
biggest plot twist: 1:32
“Just don’t do anything crazy”
*quick saves before doing something crazy*
*walks up without guns and no body army showing no signs of being aggressive*
"DONT HURT ME"
You only use charisma is this game for extra caps.. it's not very useful other wise
Just the Black guy. That's exactly what I do and get the little xp for it.
Just the Black guy also lower shop prices, companion buffs, settlement augmentation, settling things peacefully, intimidation, taming of animals, getting uniques
Just the Black guy You can also get laid easier with high charisma (insert lenny face here)
You can skip entire quests with it too. Like getting into vault 81 iirc, they want you to do some fetch quest before they let you in but you can just skip it with high charisma.
Completely true, I miss those long and unique dialogues from Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Really sad Fallout 4 would have been better if they put this dialogues in.
" I'd love to help but I'd like to get paid. "
" You already have the paycheck from when you mugged me. "
Being able to rob two chems dealers, unarmed and in a Vault suit is wild. That should have at least been a red speech check
Why do you pause for a few seconds between each option?
It's really jarring.
Mcdovin gives us a chance to read the dialogue I guess
Tim Dev no no, he’s got a point. This video would be much better without all the starts and stops
Hes quicksaving just in case shit hits the fan
He's a synth. His brain is still processing
Tim Dev ohh returned to sender 😂
Why is it so luck based wtf? They know you will just reload.
The assumption by the developer is that most players won't spend literally hours of their time over the course of the game reloading quicksaves to get more caps or pass what are truly pretty meaningless charisma checks.
It's an assumption that means that control of the player is removed in favour of an easy to implement chance system. It's pathetic
iGod Lmao at you still using faggot as your go-to insult in 2017. Grow the fuck up.
It's bad design is what it is.
@@DoctorGeniusPHD
“Hours of their time” like 10 seconds? For an outcome far more profitable, even more if your character is charisma focused? Yeah nah.
Gotta love this replacing literally ever meaningful/diverse way to finish a quest
That's every fallout and elder Scrolls for ya
the way bro kept quicksaving
0:57 Should have demanded his clothes, his boots, and his motorcycle. ;)
To get max level, you’d pretty much want max luck to gain max exp. then get perception and charisma to get the points for successful ones too. You could get clothing for the rest to jack up your points and get better chance at success in talks.
Not only you can make wolfgang lay down his weapon and give you his money, but you also can tell him to buzz off, Trudy's reaction to that is priceless.
He just had a good gaming jumpsuit
4:24 hol up
Your character looks very similar to Scarface.
SEANN that's the default character face. I just made a new save and didn't change the face
so not at all?
? Did you even watched Scarface?
my character i purposefully fucked his face up hardcore and gave him 10 charisma
You look alot like Batman.
if you handle it peacefully Wolfgang becomes a vendor outside of trudy's
Mad props for including the quick saves, reloads
I still remember the time I had a normal charisma character and managed to talk the bandits into giving me what they have at that one diner.
I like how you can straight up mug him, and then still side with him lol
I loved that little quick save
High charisma then fails an easy yellow speech check
The best ending is the peaceful option. You gain two vendors plus Trashcan Carla hangs out there sometimes, making it a useful spot to dump loot or purified water.
This makes me want to play fallout right now. I'm kinda tired of playing online games rn
The quick save oml
high charisma is awesome, low prices, extra experience from speech checks, more money, best quest outcomes. Always worth it
Ah yes. It was high charisma and certainly no other feature that lets you metaphysically retry things until you get a better die roll.
I didnt realise the wide amount of speech check options that were available for the drumlin diner scene. All i ever really know about is the asking for more money but i hadnt noticed that u can take their caps at max amount, gain something else from wolfgang if u settle it and also manage to keep both sides alive thats sick.
You can do all this with low charisma because the game lets you quicksave whenever you want. So keep reloading until you get a speech check success (even the red ones on low charisma have like a 25% chance), then quicksave again after you succeed again and repeat through the whole convo.
one thing I hate about fallout 4 charisma checks is that you say the EXACT same thing, but has a chance to succeed or fail based on your charisma... tf
it is very useful for the brotherhood quests...
Dallen TheGamer you still need the bobblehead And clothing for THAT Speech check
I love how you instinctively quicksaved whilst doing a speech-check
I’ve been seeing this in my recommendation for too long I have to see it now
Is this what it's like to live as Neil Cicerega
People dislike it because you save after every speech check. And your charisma probably isn't even on 10.
Elekris probs
I save after every check in every game I play. I like exploring dialogue options, I'm not gonna make a new game for each fucking check, that's ridiculous.
why are most people so pessimistic on the internet?
nice profile pic i know that game
Or maybe Fallout 4 is a Shit Game where you SPECIAL PLAY NO REAL PART IN THE GAME AND IT JUST GO KILL THIS GET THIS BRING BACK THIS
Charisma and luck should be hand to hand
ive always wanted to know what its like to be savage in storylines but been to nice to everyone. Thx for helping me out
EVEN MORE MONEY
Damn, I didn't expect to see you here.