I've been beating the crap out of my exway gear drive. The thing is pretty robust. Noise isn't that bad either...I did a comparison between a belt, direct and gear drive on my channel. It is a beast!
Pretty stoked you picked one of my questions! Thanks for the info, pretty stoked there's some innovation going on here in the community. Really interested in trying a geared drive board one day.
Putting cruiser gear drives on my Propel Pivot and Tynee Stinger has given them so much more pop and torque. Love the range boost I got out of my stinger too
Finally a review on the gear drive system! I definitely need this! I’ve gone through so many belts riding off-road, maybe 6 or so this past season alone. Paired with 4 wheel drive this thing is no doubt going to be a beast to ride on the trails especially with the aux pack. My only complaint is that the exway site only lets you get it in 2 wheel drive For roughly $2,400 which would mean you would have to buy the front wheel drive system separately for another $700 so that means it would be $ 3,100 for your set up and $4,200 with the aux pack….. you could buy 2 or 3 electric boards for that price so it’s kind of ridiculous (unless I’m wrong about the prices) I’ve also done cnc machining and the gear drive gears and housing are not remotely that much to manufacture….. not sure why exway thinks anyone would pay that much for gear drive when the market for it is already so small…..
I have gear drive on my Tynee mini 3 pro and my Tynee Explorer and I love it. Its stainless steel helical geardrive. Its almost as a regular skateboard to push. Way less resistance then with belts. Maintenance is almost non existing. Just put some moore greas in about 2 times a year or when it starts to sound moore. It takes about 5 min on each gear to grease it. So for me I can never go back to belts again. But if you have to choose then its moore important on the board you ride offroad with like my Explorer. There is some cheaper geardrives with plastic gears avoid those. Thats my input on geardrives. You will not regret to putting on geardrives.
so TL:DR: it's great if you need a sealed drive train system, but for more casual use, a belt is still preferable. I think for mountain boards and heavy duty boards (like the Propel Endeavor series) a gear drive would be great. it's not like people wanna swap gear ratio's to go 70 km/h on those boards anyway. but for street boards like a Hurricane or a Zeus, I'd stick with Belts. btw, to answer to your difficulties of cleaning grip tape: I reccomend a cheap dishwashing brush, then putting the board on its side and pouring a bit of water on the grip tape. then scrubbing. then more water. then scrubbing. and rinse and repeat. then pad it with a towel and leave it upside down on said towel to dry. my griptape looks like new on my Eovan thanks to it and I've literally taken it over beaches and through storms. most boards are waterproof enough (from the top) that you can put water on the top of the deck, provided you clean it off immediately and put it on its side.
White Lithium grease is best for Gear drives. But for me you don't need gear drive for all terrain Boards. For hard Offroad is a gear drive the best option. I have no problems with my E-toxx drives since 4 years 🤙
my belt broke after 1000km, and i drive daily but mostly in the city. Works gear, the wheels however went flat multiple times, i ended up buying the smallest tube i could find locally and folding it inside the wheel to fit, works fine, no way im paying 400$ for some wheels lol.
HEY!!! What kind of air pump is that you are you using @00:44 seconds in? I've been looking for a way to precisely set the PSI in my All-Terrain tires without it changing before I can unhook the air chuck! 👍DKwan content rules!
Hard for me now to ride anything other than Propel suspension boards. For real all terrain, suspension is definitely needed for hard rocky terrain or large gravel, Gopher holes, sand 😊
I believe since it's mimicking gear drive for automotive, gear grease can be purchased at places like auto zone or anywhere where they sale automotive maintenance supplies.
Other than gear grease, poop is a better option and can be applied in a similar way to the Daniel's pic. I make it myself often and I am willing to send it to some. Just let me know and I can give you my email.
Why not enclose the belt on a normal belt drivetrain? I am thinking of designing my own and 3d printing it for my board, but I can imagine it breaking easily, so a metal enclosure would be perfect in my opinion. What do you guys think??
Considering the rapid draining of the battery in 4WD with standard belt drive. With the Gear Drive the range is greatly reduced. Doesn't make sense to have it.
I was considering picking up an Atlas Pro, Gear drive, Aux Pack and 1000W charger but the price got really close to a Veteran Sherman S so I got that EUC instead… I already have a Zeus Pro for medium distances and an Exway X1 Max for short errands… 😂
I have both the first and 2nd version of the gear drive from omni esk8 and that shit rips. Definitely get a pair of their trucks if you decide to do it
I just got an exway 2w gear drive and don’t know the number for pole pairs and motor gears wheel gear wheel Diam and what’s a good brake level watching videos since WoW Go 3X good videos 🎉
Can only go top speed of 21m and Bluetooth or something doesn’t work or can’t cannect to app so confused and watched videos about this bored for a week thx
you look like a junior on this skateboard, soft sole boots and no straps to hold your feet down and that radicilous white jacket :) hehe :) AT saketboards are made for serious riders .
Tbh I usually ride on streets but they are so broken and in bad conditions that geared drive is the better way to go 😭. I would love in the future to have the money to do it comfortably.
Given that the main issue with the waterproofing is the electronics, it probably no/little effect unless it covers so holes/gaps by coincidence. Also skateboard bearings and water don’t tend to mix well anyways. That being said; Guessing the real question should be: does it have drain holes (similarly to bike frames) to allow water to flow out if it gets inside? As for france’s laws; you can always ride on private roads/in areas where you wont be stopped (ie; not in the middle of the city). I am mega jealous of the french laws regarding eSk8s; across the boarder here in Italy they have a limit on the motor power (500W) & top speed (also 25kph) so any decent board is illegal. Fortunately noone actually stops you (or at least noone has stopped me so far 😅… knock on wood)
Kung Hei Fat Choy Very well thought out analysis. I guess that there is always someone who likes to try it just to see how it feels, hate it or regret it later😂
Having only ever had hub-motor boards. Should my next bboard be hub-motor, belt drive or even gear drive? I'm on the fence about belt drive mainly due to the additional risk of a full-stop malfunction - had quite a few bad ones of those from my first hub motor board (one of the first versions of Koowheel with ESC connection issues).
I have two belt drives and never had a belt break in three years. You have to buy right is my opinion. Depending on your budget exway tynee wowgo . Don't buy of Amazon ect.
I have driven belt driven boards for 5 years as a daily commuter and have never had a full stop malfunction. I've had several belts break over the years while riding and the biggest risk is lower breaking power. You can definitely tell when it breaks so it's not a surprise when you go to break.
If there is no difference in ride performance and quality overall, whats the point of paying 659$ for the gear drive? Even if it was coming preinstalled with atlas pro for the same price there would be little to no reason to buy it because the top speed is significantly lower while not giving more torque in exchange.
Definitely not worth paying over $3,000 for it! I personally would benefit from it because I go through belts often and the gear drive gives you more torque and realizability off-roading and the speed drops down to just over 30mph which is still VERY fast but anyways it definitely has good selling points but WAY overpriced
⚡👌🏼👌🏼⚡ *Nice to see more gear drives on "production" boards as an option* I recommend White lithium grease, not just regular, anyone who wants to know why is welcome to research it. Those high top boots/sneakers are so dooe, loved the close ups! 😂 What brand/model?
When it comes to eskate aesthetics I find Hoyt St. boards craftsmanship to be far beyond virtually every other brand currently on the market. That being said, I’ve never actually ridden one of their boards…yet. And my only riding experience is with my Boosted Stealth. However if I were to invest in a second board it would be between Hoyt St’s EL2 and Evolve’s Hadean Carbon.
I like how your videos don't waste any time getting into the topic. Gear drive looks great!
I've been beating the crap out of my exway gear drive. The thing is pretty robust. Noise isn't that bad either...I did a comparison between a belt, direct and gear drive on my channel. It is a beast!
Pretty stoked you picked one of my questions! Thanks for the info, pretty stoked there's some innovation going on here in the community. Really interested in trying a geared drive board one day.
Putting cruiser gear drives on my Propel Pivot and Tynee Stinger has given them so much more pop and torque. Love the range boost I got out of my stinger too
Finally a review on the gear drive system! I definitely need this! I’ve gone through so many belts riding off-road, maybe 6 or so this past season alone. Paired with 4 wheel drive this thing is no doubt going to be a beast to ride on the trails especially with the aux pack. My only complaint is that the exway site only lets you get it in 2 wheel drive For roughly $2,400 which would mean you would have to buy the front wheel drive system separately for another $700 so that means it would be $ 3,100 for your set up and $4,200 with the aux pack….. you could buy 2 or 3 electric boards for that price so it’s kind of ridiculous (unless I’m wrong about the prices) I’ve also done cnc machining and the gear drive gears and housing are not remotely that much to manufacture….. not sure why exway thinks anyone would pay that much for gear drive when the market for it is already so small…..
I have gear drive on my Tynee mini 3 pro and my Tynee Explorer and I love it. Its stainless steel helical geardrive. Its almost as a regular skateboard to push. Way less resistance then with belts. Maintenance is almost non existing. Just put some moore greas in about 2 times a year or when it starts to sound moore. It takes about 5 min on each gear to grease it. So for me I can never go back to belts again. But if you have to choose then its moore important on the board you ride offroad with like my Explorer. There is some cheaper geardrives with plastic gears avoid those. Thats my input on geardrives. You will not regret to putting on geardrives.
so TL:DR: it's great if you need a sealed drive train system, but for more casual use, a belt is still preferable.
I think for mountain boards and heavy duty boards (like the Propel Endeavor series) a gear drive would be great. it's not like people wanna swap gear ratio's to go 70 km/h on those boards anyway. but for street boards like a Hurricane or a Zeus, I'd stick with Belts.
btw, to answer to your difficulties of cleaning grip tape: I reccomend a cheap dishwashing brush, then putting the board on its side and pouring a bit of water on the grip tape. then scrubbing. then more water. then scrubbing. and rinse and repeat. then pad it with a towel and leave it upside down on said towel to dry. my griptape looks like new on my Eovan thanks to it and I've literally taken it over beaches and through storms. most boards are waterproof enough (from the top) that you can put water on the top of the deck, provided you clean it off immediately and put it on its side.
Yes with my Endeavor, I have to stop regularly and remove the back wheels in order to get rid of the gravel. A gear drive would be better for sure.
White Lithium grease is best for Gear drives. But for me you don't need gear drive for all terrain Boards. For hard Offroad is a gear drive the best option. I have no problems with my E-toxx drives since 4 years 🤙
my belt broke after 1000km, and i drive daily but mostly in the city. Works gear, the wheels however went flat multiple times, i ended up buying the smallest tube i could find locally and folding it inside the wheel to fit, works fine, no way im paying 400$ for some wheels lol.
nice vid but, you didnt really compared it with chain drive, wich is certainly better than belts regarding to maintenece
wow chain drive never heard of that 1
please someone, what is the name of the shoes at 2:49??
HEY!!! What kind of air pump is that you are you using @00:44 seconds in?
I've been looking for a way to precisely set the PSI in my All-Terrain tires without it changing before I can unhook the air chuck!
👍DKwan content rules!
Hard for me now to ride anything other than Propel suspension boards. For real all terrain, suspension is definitely needed for hard rocky terrain or large gravel, Gopher holes, sand 😊
Thanks for review.
Im considering the Omni gear drive for my Hadean. It allows street wheel use 😉🙂
I believe since it's mimicking gear drive for automotive, gear grease can be purchased at places like auto zone or anywhere where they sale automotive maintenance supplies.
This. Existing gear drives just use regular old grease.
Red 'n' Tacky or White Lithium grease is best, unless the drive is perfectly sealed in which case synthetic gear oil is best.
Use a disk sander eraser or cleaner idk the technical name. They work great for grip tape. Only a few dollars per stick.
thanks for the first intro to gear drive! what kind of shoes are those? :D
Other than gear grease, poop is a better option and can be applied in a similar way to the Daniel's pic.
I make it myself often and I am willing to send it to some. Just let me know and I can give you my email.
5:47 can someone please tell me what shoes he's got
This is the exact video I needed thank you!!!!!!!!
Why not enclose the belt on a normal belt drivetrain? I am thinking of designing my own and 3d printing it for my board, but I can imagine it breaking easily, so a metal enclosure would be perfect in my opinion. What do you guys think??
Considering the rapid draining of the battery in 4WD with standard belt drive. With the Gear Drive the range is greatly reduced. Doesn't make sense to have it.
is it quieter than belt drive?
Seems about the same loudness. Just different sound.
Great Video! Can you make top 5 budget beginner boards recommodation, or uphill comparison 2.0? Would be awesome! :)
Can u hook this up to any board
I was considering picking up an Atlas Pro, Gear drive, Aux Pack and 1000W charger but the price got really close to a Veteran Sherman S so I got that EUC instead… I already have a Zeus Pro for medium distances and an Exway X1 Max for short errands… 😂
BTW... Thanks for the Zeus except its a girl T-shirt
EPIC DK!!! JUST GREATNESS 😎
Can you explain difference between standart edition and gear drivetrain
Can U Review The Omni Esk8 Gear Drive System pls..🙏🏽🤙🏽
I have both the first and 2nd version of the gear drive from omni esk8 and that shit rips. Definitely get a pair of their trucks if you decide to do it
What brand and model grey boot is the rider wearing? They look good.
2:29 🤣 trying to sneak that in without anyone hearing I see😭😭😭
What are the same of the grey shoes you were wearing
I just got an exway 2w gear drive and don’t know the number for pole pairs and motor gears wheel gear wheel Diam and what’s a good brake level watching videos since WoW Go 3X good videos 🎉
Can only go top speed of 21m and Bluetooth or something doesn’t work or can’t cannect to app so confused and watched videos about this bored for a week thx
you look like a junior on this skateboard, soft sole boots and no straps to hold your feet down and that radicilous white jacket :) hehe :) AT saketboards are made for serious riders .
Anyone know what shoes those grey high tops were
Is the Hadean from Evolve better or worse in comparison
Please update this video
What shoes are those ?
Tbh I usually ride on streets but they are so broken and in bad conditions that geared drive is the better way to go 😭. I would love in the future to have the money to do it comfortably.
Gear vs belt won't affect rolling resistance....😢
Where is the white jacket from???
And love the videos
In France, you not even allowed to river over 25 km/h so...
Also, is it more waterproof?
Given that the main issue with the waterproofing is the electronics, it probably no/little effect unless it covers so holes/gaps by coincidence. Also skateboard bearings and water don’t tend to mix well anyways. That being said; Guessing the real question should be: does it have drain holes (similarly to bike frames) to allow water to flow out if it gets inside?
As for france’s laws; you can always ride on private roads/in areas where you wont be stopped (ie; not in the middle of the city). I am mega jealous of the french laws regarding eSk8s; across the boarder here in Italy they have a limit on the motor power (500W) & top speed (also 25kph) so any decent board is illegal. Fortunately noone actually stops you (or at least noone has stopped me so far 😅… knock on wood)
Gear or hub? Which is better?
Kung Hei Fat Choy
Very well thought out analysis. I guess that there is always someone who likes to try it just to see how it feels, hate it or regret it later😂
Having only ever had hub-motor boards. Should my next bboard be hub-motor, belt drive or even gear drive? I'm on the fence about belt drive mainly due to the additional risk of a full-stop malfunction - had quite a few bad ones of those from my first hub motor board (one of the first versions of Koowheel with ESC connection issues).
I have two belt drives and never had a belt break in three years. You have to buy right is my opinion. Depending on your budget exway tynee wowgo . Don't buy of Amazon ect.
I have driven belt driven boards for 5 years as a daily commuter and have never had a full stop malfunction. I've had several belts break over the years while riding and the biggest risk is lower breaking power. You can definitely tell when it breaks so it's not a surprise when you go to break.
A game changing here.
They need to redesign the scrape guard. At least cover the the whole bottom. $500 is alot for damage gearboxes.
$660 before tax* just for one set……
@@milikdavis9700 that will be a he'll no for me.
Someone nees to make enclosure for belt drive
Thank you for the review!
What shoes are you wearing in the video? (The tall, gray ones)
They appear to be a binding similar to snowboard.
OTZ brand but they’re gone now
@@DanielKwan Thank you!
If there is no difference in ride performance and quality overall, whats the point of paying 659$ for the gear drive? Even if it was coming preinstalled with atlas pro for the same price there would be little to no reason to buy it because the top speed is significantly lower while not giving more torque in exchange.
Definitely not worth paying over $3,000 for it! I personally would benefit from it because I go through belts often and the gear drive gives you more torque and realizability off-roading and the speed drops down to just over 30mph which is still VERY fast but anyways it definitely has good selling points but WAY overpriced
Just wondering this thanks dawg
Thanx Taschakkur Voila
All race boards use geardrive should tell you what’s up
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*Nice to see more gear drives on "production" boards as an option*
I recommend White lithium grease, not just regular, anyone who wants to know why is welcome to research it.
Those high top boots/sneakers are so dooe, loved the close ups! 😂 What brand/model?
Brand is OTZ, don’t know the model. I don’t think they’re made anymore.
@@DanielKwan story of my life lol, I love Supras and they are not made anymore either 😭
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Hi i am from India ( Kolkata) could u plz help to make or help to buy a kit plz reply
That's a cool jacket!! Can I have one?
Super 🔄⭕🔄Daniel
Me: *considers direct gear drive*
Dkwan: Yes, it's my poop
HAHAHAHAHAHA I'M DYING!!! YOU USED MY COMMENT hahaha 😂😂😆😜😂😆
You are actor and filmmaker for electric skateboard industry hahaha..🤭
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They are only expensive if you buy one, that’s why I’m buying 2, it’s a better deal.
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When it comes to eskate aesthetics I find Hoyt St. boards craftsmanship to be far beyond virtually every other brand currently on the market. That being said, I’ve never actually ridden one of their boards…yet. And my only riding experience is with my Boosted Stealth. However if I were to invest in a second board it would be between Hoyt St’s EL2 and Evolve’s Hadean Carbon.
I change my belts Every 2years haha.
Too pricey for overall no significant benefits
Awesome!! Everything we need to know in just +7min 🤌. Thanks for answering my question. It confirmed what I was thinking 👌.
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