@@williamsmith8790 Joe Lewis is obviously one helluva fighter and tough, but also if you see how he fights he uses a lot of the things bruce taught him. So part of that's true
Mr. Lewis commented that This fight was actually supposed to be an exhibition only, so he started out going easy, and also that they were instructed to keep the fight going to make the most out of the investment they had made in televising the fight. But then Wally tried a full power front kick that Joe felt wasn't 'exhibition' at all, so Joe started fighting seriously and pummels Wally from then on. Years later Mr. Slocki reported that he had fought Lewis to a draw in this fight, which Joe disagreed with. Joe knocked him down with a knee strike. Early Kickboxing bouts had little in the way of rules and even then they were vague. For example Joe fought his first match with sneakers, other times elbow blows were allowed so they wore elbow pads, etc, which is why the knee strike was allowed, if controversial.
Hahahahaha...that wasn't a draw. That was a beating. The guy was tough though and later on did very well in full contact karate as it was sometimes called. He had a really good match against Jeff Smith which he lost by a close decision. Some of the 1970's tournaments had full contact matches across weight divisions, and Slocki gave a much smaller opponent a severe thrashing while wearing a huge smile and made the cover of January 1975 Karate Illustrated in the process.
Norris competed in non contact tournament point style, slap sparring, flailing generally no head contact ,Norris never fought full contact. Lewis hated the silly play fighting of non contact tournament Karate and began this much more realistic full contact events which eventually became kickboxing
@Brian Jones but most of his wins against joe Lewis was point fighting, Lewis was a heavyweight, don’t tell me he would beat him in a full contact match, joe lewis was undefeated for 11 yrs in full contact kickboxing for a reason, those 3 L don’t mean nothing.
@Brian Jones both Bruce lee and joe Lewis said point fighting is useless, you need a real fight to show who has more skill in hand to hand combat not some perverted touching from two men, point fighting doesn’t mean your better, sure there’s people that can fight that came from a point fighting back ground like Michael venom Paige, but he’s fought cans in his own octagon, give him some one that’s more technical/ proficient or a wrestler he’s fcked, so I don’t even know if chuck would be able to hold his own in full contact kickboxing and become a champion since he’s been in karate point fighting half his career.
At this point in time, there were pretty much no set rules. In some of the other Joe fights, fighters are wearing elbow pads because elbow blows were allowed.
Kickboxing has been an umbrella term for different sets of rules at different points in time. Low kicks, thows, elbows and knees all have been legal or illegal depending on when and where.
Joe was a champion before ever meeting Bruce. He was a wrestler, a US marine, and karate fighting champion trained in Okinawa before he let Bruce work with him.
@@TheMisterGuy Thank you, I know that, and what's that got to do with Joe.Lewis became the U.S. champion in 1966. Eizo Shimabuku taught Joe karate. Lewis was on the island of Okinawa when he served in the army in the Marines and received a black belt.Joe was not yet a world champion at that time.
@@carlinytc7431 "yeah you are right. But Joe became a much better fighter once bruce started training him" I would agree that there are some things that Lewis gained by training with Lee. It's hard to isolate it to Lee though. Lewis was improving in general because he was training and competing. He also trained with other people. For example, Lewis also trained with Orbillo, a boxer, and when he did kickboxing he was using karate kicks and boxing punches. But even though the technique and tactics would have come from there, Lee trained more general concepts like speed, timing, and control of space. So you could say what he got from Lee was universal striking concepts. Anyway, I think we can agree that training with Lee was beneficial. We should also be able to agree that Lewis was already a champion before training with Lee at all, so Lee wasn't responsible for Lewis becoming a great fighter.
@@brianf9615 "Is that true?!" It's not. Lewis was a Marine and a weight lifter before he got into karate. He was focused on it and was a rare specimen, but steroid use? No evidence of that whatsoever.
Joe was the first of the old time karate guys to look like a professional athlete.
Because he was instructed by Bruce Lee.
@@yanjunzhang2003 Yeah, that’s what it was....
@@williamsmith8790 Joe Lewis is obviously one helluva fighter and tough, but also if you see how he fights he uses a lot of the things bruce taught him. So part of that's true
Joe had sense enough to use what Lee taught him and was just a super guy, not a flake.
@@malcolmarnsdorff6782 agreed he’s better then chuck Norris.
Mr. Lewis commented that This fight was actually supposed to be an exhibition only, so he started out going easy, and also that they were instructed to keep the fight going to make the most out of the investment they had made in televising the fight. But then Wally tried a full power front kick that Joe felt wasn't 'exhibition' at all, so Joe started fighting seriously and pummels Wally from then on.
Years later Mr. Slocki reported that he had fought Lewis to a draw in this fight, which Joe disagreed with. Joe knocked him down with a knee strike. Early Kickboxing bouts had little in the way of rules and even then they were vague. For example Joe fought his first match with sneakers, other times elbow blows were allowed so they wore elbow pads, etc, which is why the knee strike was allowed, if controversial.
Thanks for sharing that! Joe Lewis is an inspiration! Even to those of us in our 20s fifty years later 😊👊
Hahahahaha...that wasn't a draw. That was a beating. The guy was tough though and later on did very well in full contact karate as it was sometimes called. He had a really good match against Jeff Smith which he lost by a close decision. Some of the 1970's tournaments had full contact matches across weight divisions, and Slocki gave a much smaller opponent a severe thrashing while wearing a huge smile and made the cover of January 1975 Karate Illustrated in the process.
@@tibbar1000 You are 💯 right I had that magazine back in the day!
@@melvintate8186 Cool!
My Uncle Joe Lewis and my Grandfather, Wally Slocki!♥️♥️♥️♥️
the canadian dudes a badass.he fought the man bruces desiple. and held his own
Waylon Norris ha yeah learned more on his own than from bruce
There aren’t many actors who can fight. Joe was just a real deal.
Joe was a great fighter.
Joe Lewis was a beast!!!
Not many people would get back up after that!!
Not many actors can do the real deal like Lewis.
Man I could feel that knee… Joe kept on going and going stocking and stocking Wallys Connor should’ve said we don’t need that kind of play baby
Credit to the other guy. Gave a good figth.
Both have a nice skills.Top😁
Joe Lewis était le meilleur, le plus fort, le plus grand des combattants c'était un véritable champion !!!❤🙏
Ale Bruca Lee nie pokonał.
JOE .....Siempre será el mejor......y cono actor, pudo aver triunfado, pero era un luchador y no un muñeco de cine .
Anybody understand the announcer on the loud speaker? Reminds me of Charlie Brown's teacher. And my teachers sounded like that, too, to me.
Joe Lewis , “ the original American gangster “. Chael Sonnen.
Old Times was more Boxing as Kickboxing. I mean in times.what we have today ...
.. are the Technical Style to Fight in Fullcontact better .
Why is there so much tournament footage on Lewis, but barely
Anything on Norris?
Norris competed in non contact tournament point style, slap sparring, flailing generally no head contact ,Norris never fought full contact. Lewis hated the silly play fighting of non contact tournament Karate and began this much more realistic full contact events which eventually became kickboxing
Lewis was better than norris.that why.
@@roylopez3838 1000%
@Brian Jones but most of his wins against joe Lewis was point fighting, Lewis was a heavyweight, don’t tell me he would beat him in a full contact match, joe lewis was undefeated for 11 yrs in full contact kickboxing for a reason, those 3 L don’t mean nothing.
@Brian Jones both Bruce lee and joe Lewis said point fighting is useless, you need a real fight to show who has more skill in hand to hand combat not some perverted touching from two men, point fighting doesn’t mean your better, sure there’s people that can fight that came from a point fighting back ground like Michael venom Paige, but he’s fought cans in his own octagon, give him some one that’s more technical/ proficient or a wrestler he’s fcked, so I don’t even know if chuck would be able to hold his own in full contact kickboxing and become a champion since he’s been in karate point fighting half his career.
I thought kneestrikes were illegal in kickboxing...
At this point in time, there were pretty much no set rules. In some of the other Joe fights, fighters are wearing elbow pads because elbow blows were allowed.
Elbows are illegal, knees are legal.
Kickboxing has been an umbrella term for different sets of rules at different points in time.
Low kicks, thows, elbows and knees all have been legal or illegal depending on when and where.
Stalking!!
Bruce lee side kick
Eran otros tiempos, ahora serían mediocres. No hay más que ver la manera de patear y defender
Very average boxing coupled with very below-average kicking.
It was an exhibition match, Martin - that got out-of-hand
Bruce Lee Joe. I made Lewis a good fighter. Bruce Lee was there.
Joe was a champion before ever meeting Bruce. He was a wrestler, a US marine, and karate fighting champion trained in Okinawa before he let Bruce work with him.
@@TheMisterGuy Thank you, I know that, and what's that got to do with Joe.Lewis became the U.S. champion in 1966. Eizo Shimabuku taught Joe karate. Lewis was on the island of Okinawa when he served in the army in the Marines and received a black belt.Joe was not yet a world champion at that time.
@@Георг.Меркулов I think we might have a language barrier.
@@TheMisterGuy yeah you are right. But Joe became a much better fighter once bruce started training him
@@carlinytc7431 "yeah you are right. But Joe became a much better fighter once bruce started training him"
I would agree that there are some things that Lewis gained by training with Lee. It's hard to isolate it to Lee though.
Lewis was improving in general because he was training and competing. He also trained with other people. For example, Lewis also trained with Orbillo, a boxer, and when he did kickboxing he was using karate kicks and boxing punches. But even though the technique and tactics would have come from there, Lee trained more general concepts like speed, timing, and control of space. So you could say what he got from Lee was universal striking concepts.
Anyway, I think we can agree that training with Lee was beneficial. We should also be able to agree that Lewis was already a champion before training with Lee at all, so Lee wasn't responsible for Lewis becoming a great fighter.
lmao what a joke. Lewis was so juiced up. He's the guy that got steroids for Bruce Lee. Dianabol breakfast of champions lmao.
"Lewis was so juiced up."
No he wasn't. What are you talking about? Because he has muscles?
Is that true?!
@@brianf9615 "Is that true?!"
It's not. Lewis was a Marine and a weight lifter before he got into karate. He was focused on it and was a rare specimen, but steroid use? No evidence of that whatsoever.
@@TheMisterGuy Glad to hear that.
I'm sure you knew them both - idiot
bruce lee help joe lewis , joe lewis was fight kick boxing you can move is not just karate . you seen he change alot joe lewis look very good.