Joe Lewis beats by KO in the 2nd Franc Brodar/YU. Full-contact. PKA title. 14.09.1974. Los-Angeles
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- On September 14th 1974 held the first international championship of full-contact, organized by the PKA (Professional Karate Association). Joe Lewis struggles against the Yugoslav Franc Brodar. This fight is organised by Mike Anderson. Lewis wins at the 2nd round.
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Seems like you can see the influence Bruce had on him, he said his matches improved alot after he trained with him.
Well yea he trained under him for sometime
@@joaquinflores3547 Joe Lewis qoutes:
"On K1- The JKD guys would get SLAUGHTERED if they competed even on a lower K1 level, such as the elimination K1 fights. What the K1 fighters do, especially their 'cut kicking' skills, what you may call inside/outside leg kicks would totally dominate what is done in 'classical JKD'."
Bruce Lee, by tradition, was taught not to divullge the secrets that he'd learned, especially to Caucasians, yet he made a point in teaching a whole bunch of 'white' celebrities, like James Coburn, Steve McQueen, Sterling Silliphant, including Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, as well as Joe Lewis, of course.
So much for Jun Fan Gung Fu and the "street-fighter" legend who never had a single pro fight, but managed to get his back badly messed up in the Wong Jack Man fight in San Francisco, late autumn of 1964.
If we want to believe that Bruce Lee is indeed a kind of philosophical godfather of mixed martial arts competitions, then his fight with Wong Jack Man was a qualifying moment, a crucible that tested the validity of martial techniques much in the way that early UFC fights would in the late 90s, tear back the curtain to bluntly expose what was effective and what was mere hype.
The only thing that makes one a fighter is fighting other professionals, and often. Jun-fan was too busy flexing & otherwise hiding his skinny legs.
@@TAROTAI I know what your talking about I have done Muay Thai before I just said he had influences from Bruce Lee, and obviously K1 has different rules plus the low kicks would make it difficult for this guys to adopt to the style
Man, so true!!!! I can see Joe Lewis thinking Bruce during this fight! Amazing!
I feel Bruce on video.You have right
Honor for Mr. Bruce Lee. Awesome! May future generations learn & appreciate this video. 2020 🙏🥋🇺🇲
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My instructor was one of Joe's black belts. I got to sit in on a black belt promotion test given by Joe. Very memorable.
Joe was a very good boxer in general nevermind the kicks.
Joe was no joke! He was one bad man! Powerful in every way!
Imagine Bruce Lee fighting Joe and Bruce winning the the full contact fight 🤯 that would be an entertaining match
@@TheRealTomahawk😂😂😂😂
How well I remember watching this late one Friday night during December 1974 on ABC. I was then a 15-year-old purple belt in Tracy's kenpo, whose heroes were (in order), Lewis, Smith, Jackson and Flem Evans.
Within a few months, this full-contact karate became kickboxing, with most fighters using boxing-style punches, rather than (for example) the ridgehands that Lewis employs so effectively here.
Hay a tracy brothers kenpo guy .... Oss i'm a Doversola Okinawa Te guy ahhh the good ol days
Me too at Tracy’s in Philadelphia
Zulu Dawn CottmanAve. Philadelphia for me
Feasterville PA. here
I started training with Jim Stewart and Tracy's in Indianapolis in 1970 :-) I'm not sure why people are giving Bruce Lee so much credit for what Lewis is doing here. He always had that great side kick, though he did add a back fist and some weapon first attacks after working with Lee. I like the movement he is showing. Never saw Lee move like that in any sparring video out there.
Joe sparred with Bruce Lee regularly and said that helped him win 11 consecutive matches.This being one of those 11 victories👍😃
Cmd Dowd he was a world champion kickboxer and trained at a Sugar Ray Robinson’s gym so....
He didn't spar, but they trained relentlessly for a couple of year. They did spar type technique drills. Joe said he never sparred but learned from Bruce's philosophical mind and willingness to experiment.
You can tell he trained with Bruce. Footwork and positioning shows it. JKD Bruce not Wing Chung
The fluidity too. I think mma fighters could benefit from some of the Kung fu training if they actually went over there and trained for a while, I think Mcgregor proved there’s more to the body then just throwing a kick or a punch Bruce’s dance back ground I find shows in his foot work too. Stylebenders evidence of that too haha and Silva
I think Joe, Bob Wall, James Coburn, Bolo, Jim Kelly, Steve McQueen, Kareem Jabbar, James Franciscus, Ed Parker, John Saxon, Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung & others Gleaned way more from Bruce than Chuck Norris gleaned from his mentor Bruce Lee.
Bruce adored the amazing footwork of boxer Willie Pep, and constantly studied him - same with Ali too. Bruce taught Lewis, Stone, Norris, Wall, etc, the importance of distance and mobility in a fight - as we see Joe utilising here.
@@db90990 Good Lawd...Joe Lewis, Bob Wall, Dan Inosanto and Jim Kelly trained with Gordon Doversola who knew Edmund Parker from Hawaii... Look up a Gordon Doversola and Jim Kelly on TH-cam
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Glad to hear the fight was deacated to the master Bruce Lee well dune Joe Lewis respect peace be with you all
Damn! You can tell he trained with Bruce Lee. Check out that foot work!
The kick is different
he use a lot of JKD hook kick!!!
Also trained under Sugar Ray Robinson and other greats!
The foot work is all Muhammad Ali.
Bruce lee begged to train with him
Joe Lewis demonstrates the side kick or Bruce Lee he truly is Magnificent 🙌
He developed that sidekick while training with Gordon Doversola and Jim Kelly developed his back hand while training with Gordon Doversola as well
Lewis was in great shape. No matter how strong and tough you cant beat cancer.
Such a loss.
Tell that to Mr T.
You can with a serious Dry Fasting protocol
Say that to Cole Robinson, aka the 'Snake Diet' dude!
@@icanmanifest why dry fastingn over water fasting?
@@raymccollom3360 aggressive atophagy. Water fasting also flushes electrolytes too fast.
I remember watching fights like these in the 70s, I always felt that they were pretty boring, but Joe Lewis was a great fighter
GOD bless you Joe,we miss you!
Very good performance by Joe Lewis!
The referee in this fight is Jim Harrison, of which Bruce Lee said, "I fear no man, but Jim Harrison and Mike Stone are the two last men that I would wish to meet in an alley fight. Jim Harrison's fighting style is not flamboyant or spectacular, it's just simple and deadly! He's one of the most dangerous men in the world."
And when and where Bruce Lee say it??
@@user-vu5bg1ur8i Why don't you do a google search for that quote, you'll find many articles. I second what Bruce said, I trained under Harrison for 6 years, the man was intimidating and trained many champions.
Clearly, using what he learned from Bruce Lee. This should silence the BL disbelievers as Lewis said that Bruce Lee could beat him using only his low side kick as a weapon. He said this in Black Belt magazine years ago or one of those fight magazines.
joe lewis is overrated
I would have said to Bruce Lee, prove it. I remember the master of Brazilian Ju Jitsu, Royce Gracie, getting his head pounded in by Matt Hughes....Until you do it, you never know, and it's just talk.
@@Jonwood74 If you had said that to Bruce Lee's face, he would say, ok. Let's go. Right now, not in the ring. And he would say that to anyone who challenged him. What would you say?
@@sanekabc To me, an untrained fighter, he probably would say that. Then again, he might not....He's like water....Water in a Toilet Bowl. He's full of Sh*t.
@@sanekabc We can all see Joe here in a full contact fight. The evidence is undeniable. Can you tell me where I can see Bruce in a full contact fight ?
Joe moved exactly like Bruce Lee did
Actually, like Bruce AND Ali...because he was taught it BY BL.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 Un combat de merde. Il croit qu'il est dans un film de Bruce Lee. Ridicule
Telly Savales aka Kojak the lollipop man, never knew in all my years that he was a kick boxing announcer..
Listen up Whippersnappers, Heavyweight Champion Joe Lewis is arguably the Greatest (competitive) Karate Fighter of all time. Yes, he eventually trained with Bruce Lee and acknowledged he learned some things from him i.e. vertical punches etc. But, as far as this footwork and the ridge hands no. Skip round kick to the head maybe. But, Bruce got that from Chuck Norris. And, he absolutely perfected it. Let me set the record straight. Bruce Lee's famous side kick from the low side (Horse) stance he used in "Return of the Dragon" aka "Way of the Dragon" is identical to the patented Joe Lewis side kick that Joe was known for years before he ever met Bruce Lee. It is documented on film and in magazines countless times. Joe's Side kick, backfist combo was about all he ever did back in the blood and guts days of padless Karate. And, it was all he had to do. Joe was asked why he did the same side kick technique all the time to which he replied (paraphrasing) "Well, for one thing, nobody can stop it." In 1988 Joe Lewis told me at a seminar in Nashville, Tennessee he could kick Bruce Lee's ass every day of the week. And, I am pretty certain Bruce lee would have said the same thing about Joe or anyone else for that matter. My speculation would be that Joe would have had the advantage in a competitive setting. Bruce only competed once as a young man in China. And, naturally he won. I would however have to favor Bruce in a street fight. He was experienced. And, Joe only had a couple as far as I know. Bottom line is noone knows which legend would win and it matters not. Many Bruce Lee fans worship him as an idol. He never wanted that or even to be categorized as a superstar. He preferred to be respected for his talent as an actor and martial artist. His true legacy is his philosophy of openness and learning from all sources. And, that the teacher and student create and advance the art together.
Street fight: Bruce 109% you can’t see what Bruce eye strike it’s over
Joe Lewis learned that sidekick from Gordon Doversola before he met Bruce Lee and Jim Kelly learned his backfist from Gordon Doversola as well... Look up Jim Kelly and Gordon Doversola on TH-cam... Jim is wearing a yellow shirt
PKA had some great fighters.
thank you
There was a lot of Bruce Lee influence in this fight. That side kick was a signature Bruce Lee move. Joe delivers it perfectly!
He developed that side kick while training with Gordon Doversola before he met Bruce Lee
@@Savage_to_Sage He always was good at it
@@DJK-cq2uy Perhaps but he definitely became better under the guidance of Gordon Doversola which is why Jim Kelly trained with Mr. Doversola as well... If you do some research you will hear Jim Kelly say that Bruce Lee took private lessons with Gordon Doversola @ComicCon2010
@@Savage_to_Sage can't just receive ir acknowledge the skill if another without one upping. Clown
@@DJK-cq2uy Learn correct English and spelling before you try to insult someone because that just shows your ignorance... I trained with Gordon Doversola so I'm sure that I have more information about the situation than you...
Joe looked like he had this in the bag in round 1
Very impressive performance by Joe Luwis...
Dude... this guy looks like a beast and usually karate or point fighting is kinda a clown fighting but this match looks like legitimate stand up. AND he said what he said about Bruce Lee! That Bruce is the fastest person ever I'm front of him and that Bruce hits as hard as a heavy weight. He fought Bruce and Bruce landed on him.
Gotta put some respect on Bruce's name, in case people people forgot
Joe Lewis represented the USA, yet it was largely his Irish and Scottish blood that drove much of his famed fighting fervor and ferocity. What a champion, what a fighter, what a true, fearsome Celtic warrior! RIP Joe Lewis.
yep - just like Bruce Lee - who was American but his Chinese blood made him fuck all!!
fuck off
Was That his ancestry
@@robjeffrey270Much of it!
If you look closely, the ridgehand is actually landing via forearm, above the glove. No wonder the guy went down. Joe is very cagey throwing that. He "intended" to land on the ridgehand, but went 'deep' and his forearm made the contact. Judges were not sophisticated so didn't see it. That was Jim Harrison, I believe, serving as referee.
Same way Roy Jones "knocked down" Joe Calzaghe.
Lewis used to make contact in touch karate as well.
You look closely on the last one Brodar was moving in so of course it was partly a forearm strike. Another one previously Brodar was moving in. On another Brodar was moving away so Lewis was trying to compensate for that but as Lewis threw another Brodar stopped moving away.
I think both times he went down it was with the forearm. Was that legal?
I noticed that as well, the first ridge hand was his forearm.
Great lead leg side kick!
Joe's kicks are wonderfuls
Bro this guy is the real deal
Isso sim era luta de vdd 👏🏼
Joe was an insane fighter…. Google his workout stats insanely strong what a fucking beast!!!!
Chris Shenkle at the end miss the 70s wish I was still there. 😊😊😊
Fun fact: Joe Lewis is who Ken from street fighter is based off of
Are they allowed to kick to the back in this or leg sweeps ?
Joe was a bad mad can we take time to appreciate the way he worked the Philly shell in a martial arts fight ?
You can tell by looking at the late great Joe Lewis that he was a formidable foe.
Now, if Joe Lewis, such a tough fighter and heavyweight champion, says Bruce Lee was in a higher league, who is out there saying Bruce was just a movie star???
That ridge hand didn't hit the forehead. Looked like it hit the side of the neck or maybe under the ear.
Yep, that's the way I saw it too, just under the ear. A good target if you want to drop somebody.
Did I see Telly Savalas (Kojak)? WoW.
Yes true👍. I grew up on his movies and was an amazing actor! I too was excited to see him .. God bless his soul🙏
Sweet straight side kicks..
what qualifies Telly to because sports commentator?
Priceless footage. No one's used a "ridge hand" in full-contact then get the win. :) I wonder when they began using boxing gloves. Forget. ...in kickboxing. THis was more "full--contct Karate". And the fight was dedicated to Bruce Lee?
Always amazed at the respect Bruce Lee got and still gets from fans. The guy was just a MA film star. Nothing like a Joe Lewis. ...Benny Urquidezz...
Nice match👌
Those ridge hands to the face were actually forearms to the face.
This Is Gold!! Awesome video,remind me on Bruce Lee 100% .Joe Is sweet heart,I'm very sorry about disagree with Bruce way of the dragon.Chuck Norice Is shadow for Joe Lewis.
“Ridge hand” ridge hand ridge hand!
Respect for these legends they are fine role models and men that severely needed in today's times especially America
Lots of people throw the ridge hand off the rear.since joe is landing with the forearm instead of the hand it still has power
Heard a ludicris comment recently claiming fighters from the 60's wouldn't hold a candle to fighters of today...becaue he noticed fighters like Lewis dropped their hands. :)) That's to lure the other guy in DUH!! :) Lewis and the others were on another level as martial artists...elite/best of the best....talent you don't see today because most don't have the same hunger to be GOOD.
Bruce Lee helped joe not tele graph his moves. Also taught timing to joe. Their both the real deal. Bob wall once stated, on set of way of dragon, lee broke several of his ribs after kicking him. Bruce lee was like water, he was open minded, incorporated different martial arts styles into his wing chin. Kareem Abdul jabbar witnessed sparring between lee and Norris, Kareem said the world karate champ had bruises on his face. Also, he was point fighter, he never did full contact like bill Wallace or joe Lewis. I read book on lee. He was street fighter growing up in China. Jon T ben, actor, said, the former middleweight karate champion admitted no one can beat Bruce. Bob wall, Jim Kelly said Bruce was the real deal. I'm not a expert on martial arts, just sharing some stuff I read. Theirs big difference between point fighting and full contact.
Joe became a bit Wild when he got excited. Always keep your
Cool---even when you have a guy "On the ropes," as it were.
Pick your shots with controlled, economic bursts. Too many
guys forget themselves and begin flailing all OVER the place.
Joe Lewis got his Karate belt in 1 year also!
First time I've ever seen Mr. Lewis.
Looks like Johnny from the Cobra Kai
Damn you can see that boxin is completely another level though all the heavyweights of boxing would kill these guys.. I have respect for karate though ✌️✌️
Bruce used to toy with Joe Lewis. Bruce was special back then
Joe moves like bruce. You can see the big influence.on him
But from what I can see in these videos of Joe, he really
"Telegraphed" his kicks. I'm surprised his opponents
failed to capitalize on that. A good fighter would jump
ALL OVER that!
Joe always had better hands than feet.
Exactly, both oof thhem were telegraphinng everything.Back then, let's face it, hardlly anyone was training in martial arts at all, and especially karate.
@@Rowlph8888 Absolutely!
As crazy, and arrogant as it may sound---The Me of today, could've
beat the Joe Lewis of yesterday. I truly believe that!
I don't know----Maybe that isn't saying much.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 😆😆😆
Keyboard warrior moments.
wow the stand just look like bruce lee, almost dancing
Back when karate was useful 👍
Peace peace, wow I like Joe’s foot work
His Bruce training shows up here. He said Bruce was a great teacher. Joe was a badass before he met Bruce, but those two fed off each others ideas.
Peace, cool thanks for the info.
Franc is from Slovenia, from shotokan,
I was about to say Lewis fighting stand and bouncing technique looked identical to Bruces fighting Style against Chuck Noris. Wonder what lewis style looked like before Lee.
They both 'copied' from each other.
Siempre sera el Mejor
It’s really u fortunate nobody knows about him. If you would just look him up you would understand he is ultimately one of the greatest fighter on the face of the planet: creator of JetKunDo, Father of Kickboxing, the one and only 10th degree black belt in the world, he is truly the king that surpasses mahamid Ali 🙏🥶
Joe was great.
Telly Savalas aka Kojak.
who love you baby -_-
I was hoping Telly would do a tap dance at the end with that cheesy tune.
Nice carnival music at the end, but would be more fitting for clowns coming out and karate men.
Are they not allowed to throw leg kicks?
First thing to notice is how „low key“ the entry was compared to today’s circus.
And was that Telly Savales with the reporter at the beginning????
Yeah baby
Real Life Ken From Street fighter
Joe Lewis was pretty damn good
I didn't know telly is into this kind of thing
O maior lutador de karate usa
No push kicks wtf these rules held back so many great kickboxers
Holy crap, no muscle old fucks that would die against any fighter in ufc
Franc had the skills of a purple belt.
Love oldschool full contact. But to be honest most of the time the level was extremely low.
Struggles?
The commentators were giving Lewis a lot of leeway in the way they reported his strikes. He used a forearm to the temple to end the fight and they called it a ridge hand to the forehead. Nobody is going to use a ridge hand to the forehead, that's just stupid and you could clearly see that it didn't happen that way. Lewis used the forearm many more times before that and they kept calling it a ridge hand. Only twice did he actually use a ridge hand strike. Lewis was good they should not have been lying.
I had no idea Telly salvas was a sports caster
Joe from street fighter 1?
Lewis was smart. He hit with his arm right before the hand so there was no padding to soften the blow.
Kojak & Richard Pryor?? Whaa?? :) Win by ridge-hand?? :) I guess this is more "fuill-contct Karate" than "kickboxing"....Probably the time just before "kickboxing" was born.
You are correct Master Ed Parker was against this type of competition for fear of quality of technique would suffer in the world of Martial Arts. But this led to kickboxing to today's MMA
Who said it was kickboxing?
It was a transition period, yes called full contact karate at the time, and in fact was transitioning from 'point karate' as it emerged in 73 with initially 'Pro Karate' point tournaments using the safety gear 'safe-T' brand name, shown here. The idea was to just make it continuous and use basically the same techniques. I could be wrong but it was only Joe here that had fought full contact before, had studied and trained boxing, and been in fights called 'kickboxing (that had very few rules and allowed knees etc) and was undefeated in those early kickboxing fights.
After this, Smith, Wallace, and Duenas turned intensely to boxing training and techniques, mixed with their kicking, and once the safe_T gear was dropped, hooks not ridgehands were used. Boxing training for karate fighters in this new sport, became essential due to the continuous nature and use of boxing gloves, because otherwise mediocre boxers would win in 'full contact karate'.
Little be little, the PKA, of which this world championship was the forerunner of, evolved in its rules, and ability of the fighters, esp an 'area' was replaced by a ring. Sweeps and throws became outlawed, a minimum kick requirement was founded, (again to stop just boxers dominating the new contact sport and also to encourage kicking).
Eventually other organisations eg WKA became more international flavoured, allowing leg kicks though not full muay thai rules.
Both types of bouts were televised, and WKA fights gradually became known as kickboxing, and full contact karate was a term last used in the 80s in PKA or ISKA events. More or less!
The old PKA format gradually became known as 'above waist' kickboxing.
Ultimately organisations fractured, international rules with leg kicks dominated , K1 emerged, the rest is history.
(Myself, I always thought above waist fights more interesting, but the international spread and potency of leg kicks became more popular, mainly because by then few fighters with anywhere near the kicking capability of Bill Wallace were fighting or training in above waist rules. Also the money was in the international leg kicking bouts).
Can't say I like the music at the end.
Fran Brodar ? Un completo desconocido , soy español y nunca oy ablar de este señor , y eso que por aquella epoca habia caratecas yugoslabos de gran balia , que quedaban campeones de Europa. Este señor Lewis nunca me combencio .
I'm at 6:18 now and the fight is over. If you want to call that a fight. That is exactly what I'm talking about from back then. How they can even call that a Professional Fight is beyond me. The guy Joe was fighting, " IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT FIGHTING " I call it crap. I wish I could have had a chance to fight him Norris and Bill Wallace because then I would have been the World Champion, but I was 15 years younger than them so it would never have happened ....TOO BAD... I can't watch the rest of the video because the sparring in my Isshinryu Karate
Class was 3 times harder than that garbage. Thanks anyway for another video, Peerdy
Entièrement d'accord avec vous.
Une grosse merde ce combat.
Aucune garde, juste un Charlot qui se croît dans un film de Bruce Lee. Ridicule !
Wow a Blackbelt in Gum Fu!
Bill Wallace would use you as a human piñata, even now at 77.
Actually, before Joe met Lee, he was RIGID---like traditional
Karate teaches. It wasn't until he worked with Bruce that he
adopted a more FLUID approach---Footwork.
@WarSawUprizing Talkative, aren't we..?
@WarSawUprizing Pardon me but, are you trying to educate me
on a subject I already knew?
@WarSawUprizing My bad! Ya' never know on TH-cam.
Que mayores eran en esa época los competidores
Ken SFII standing forward all day n standing fierce for the KO
I can't fathom anyone earning a black belt in only seven months of training. Was he taking classes EVERY day? What was the intensity of his training?
What I don't get issss...when Joe was covered up in defense and the other was punching why did he let up...the ref didn't stop him...he had a chance to inflict a little damage to slow him down.
Back in the days when men were men, and people used Scotch-Brite to clean their camera lenses...
LOL! EXACTLY!!
punching with pads..wow!
Hadouken ☄️
1st round bicep puch knockdown!
Joe Lewis ? this guy never be defeated
Announcer keeps calling it a ridge hand when it’s a long hook.
No, it's a ridge hand. i learned that in Shotokan. You hit below the thumb around the wrist area. As you see it can be very effective.
@@teleguy5699 A Ridge hand for sure......Love my left hooks ...but this was a ridge hand!
Joe told me that he an Bruce trained together 8 times and then had a falling out.
Vic Moore did you see Joe Lewis skills after being trained by Bruce Lee.
Kevin Burton he wasn’t trained by Bruce lee, Bruce lee begged to train with him, by the time he trained with Bruce he was already champion
@@sjnxsjxyn Lewis admitted he became a better fighter and Bruce was a great teacher.