I Think I'm Done With Land Rover (One Year Owner Review)
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- Today I talk about my one year ownership experience with my Land Rover Defender!
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Title is misleading. So the only reason you're "done" with it because your wife said so?
sure is. click bait at its finest.
haha true
Yea waste of time
very strange man Ben Hardy is, agree
Click bait king
When something major breaks on any vehicle that only has 150 miles on it, the customer service BETTER be over the top, whoever the dealer is.
The price will definitely be over the top
@@luisvilla799 service better than the jeep service dept for $110k premium jeep grand wagoneer
@@youtubecarspottersguide1doubt it all owned by same crooks lol no seriously it’s only a few large corporations best suv are GM and Toyota this is overall Toyota being the better of the 2 I’m pretty sure I’m missing a honorable mention somewhere
Thats the problem. He got a lemon. Its not normal for a land rover to have problems that early, so if you do that means you got a lemon. And you should run right back to the dealer
Your better off buying the new 2024 Lexus Gx in an offroad trim because it's a Toyota product; it's practically the land cruiser that's bin redesigned.
The Land Rover is always the best looking vehicle in the shop.
😄
THE LR tech can afford to retire 20yrs before the owners!
with that huge roof rack, you can climb on enjoy the sun while waiting for the tow truck to come
That's what it does best!
They sell land rovers at shops?
I m sure your wife absolutely needed an offroader with a snorkel and a roof rack to navigate through the jungle to get your kids from school 😵💫
These are the people that buy land ro er these days. He says all cars have electronics these days, true, but this car have much much more electronics than an average car, while offroaders need to have less. All all I don't get this video. He said they didn't have issue at all, only at 150 miles, but then he mentions that the power steering went at 10000 miles.... ok
Owned 4 Land Rover products over the years (Range Rover, Disco, Defender, and Range Rover Sport), not one problem. Owned multiple Mercedes that had multiple issues. Owned a Toyota that blew a head gasket. I guess some of it comes down to luck of the draw. Best to own anything new today with a warranty (more tech comes with many more potential issues).
Exactly!
Try getting work done under warrenty! Best to buy older, simpler, proven vehicles
Toyotas are still so much better then land rover sheit.
I don't know newer cars but I own a 2002 Toyota and a 2007 Land Rover. Most Land Rovers actually have very reliable engine and drivetrain etc. But there's no comparison on the little things. Basically everything plastic in the LR has been mended or replaced. The design is often comically bad.
may I ask which toyota blew the head gasket? Was it Tundra.... at 200k miles? I have not heard of such issue on toyota/lexus trucks/body-on-frame SUVs with a mileage below 150k unless they were extremely abused and lacked proper maintenance.
It’s like having a pair of shoes. You like the guy that sold you the shoes, you like the guy that polishes the shoes when they get scuffed up but in the end the shoes hurt your feet. It boils down to how long you can stand the discomfort.
Great analogy!!!
Something similar happened to me with Hyundai. The sales person was great and actually became a friend, but the Tucson we bought was a lemon so we had to part ways with it, but the purchasing process was great.
you forgot to mention that those pair of shoes costed 90k new and now they are only worth 60k after 1 year.
most people who complain never owned a Land Rover
In my case , I’ve owned 4.@@pressmandestiny
I’m selling my 2020 LR defender. In the last 6 months it’s been in the shop 3 times. Several days for each repair. Gorgeous vehicle but painful to own. Can’t wait for something else more reliable. The steering failure is downright dangerous. Another time we had a full engine shutdown that left us stranded on the side of a highway at night. Could you imagine if this happened deep in the back country.
Get the new lexus gx550
The steering is a three min fix 😂
Get a prado
@@Joe-kx7blthen keep fixing it every day too dumbbass. Nobody got time for that shit.
That is shocking
My wife’s supercharged Range Rover Sport has been rock solid. Zero issues from new to 80k miles. While i do sympathize with the OP, i bet 95% of the people complaining online about reliability have probably never owned them. If reliability was as bad as everyone claims - LR would have been out of business a long time ago.
Idiots lease them, try driving a landrover product for 10 years or better yet 500,000 miles. Toyota.
Not true. My LR4 has been trash. But I like the look of it and deal with issues as they come. The least reliable car I’ve owned. But it was cheaper than a Tacoma and still offered off road ruggedness. It does perform the best off road out of all my cars though. I follow a LandRover forum on Facebook and 90% of the posts are, “this broke how can I fix it.” I still have mine tho 🤷🏻♂️
Status symbol? Maybe they just buy what they like and they can afford it? When people have no money, they should buy what's reliable and try to be happy.
@@Wontreplyeverdontbother
My sentiments! The company would have been crashed. I love landrover!
You must me one of the rare owners then without issues. I had several LR incl the original Defender and yes lots of problems. People without issues are rare.
My LR3 was quirky but 100% reliable. My 2012 LR4 was amazing and 100% reliable. My 2021 Defender 110 is perfect and has 50,000 miles on it and has been 100% reliable.
I don't think Land Rover, as a brand, has ever been proven to be reliable...
Landrover's reliability ended decades ago and it's been a running joke as pretty much the worst brand ever since. Buying a modern Landrover is like trying to beat a casino at slotmachines- the odds aren't there. It's a shame, because they have some beautiful designs.
To me its a status symbol but I like my money lol
The vehicles are fantastic , it’s a shame they can’t make them reliable and easy to repair .
The landriver defender 110 from the 90s and early 2thoudands are the real defender s these new defender s are not built like the older ones and cannot take an extreme off road beating like the older models that were built for extreme hostile conditions.
This is why the older defender s still hold their value and are super expensive to maintain wich is why alot of guys switched to Toyota land cruiser or other off road brands.
Yip. They're rubbish
I'm 3 months away from 3 years of owning mine. It has been great. Love it.
How is it I’m trying it buy a new one right now and was wondering if I’d get the same experience as my current 2023 Escalade since that car is amazing.
Love it. Zero complaints. @@avxlit
@@VWkid4life how many miles do you have? Any issues with ownership?
just did the 20,000 service. No problems. Love it. I have a 90 with the 4 cylinder@@ryanjcoon1
24k miles on my 2023 Defender 110. ZERO issues. Love it. I drive it like I stole it.
Did your 21,000 mile service cost $2000? I saw another owner’s post that said it cost that much….just asking.
@@brooklyn4life880mine was $1700 Houston, TX area
Mark my words. You wont make it to 100k miles without a major repair that will cost you at least $3500
"I drive it like I stoleit": that is why it lasts. It should be driven. It's made to drive, not soccer-mom nursing.
@@monzarace as a JLR Tech, it's often the most babied Land Rovers that cause the most problems, I've had customers that are contractors and drive them all over construction sites with absolutely filthy engine bays and never come in for more than routine service and maybe a minor issue here and there.
While Land Rover isn't as off road looking as it used to, don't get it twisted, they're still every bit as capable as they used to be and then some.
People also call them unreliable because electrical gremlins, not because it left them stranded somewhere. I've had people come in for silly things more often than something major like powertrain issues. Most of the time if it left the customer stranded it was a drained battery.
But of course if the customer paid top dollar for a brand new vehicle it is understandable that they would expect it to be perfect all day every day, however with all the technology it's packing, it's not likely for it to not have any issues at all.
Look at Toyota, they used to be bullet proof, with these new ones, not so much as they pack more and more technology into them, technology that has been on Land Rovers for years now.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 welcome to the club 🎉 🎈I couldn’t wait to get rid of my Range Rover Evoque. It was the Best car I ever owned, under warranty. It was the worst car I ever owned, out of warranty. Although if I had money to burn then I’m definitely buying a Defender 130 X 🚙🚗
Sorry that the Defender didn't work out. Good luck on getting a new vehicle (please post more videos of the car search.... love seeing the struggle involved in finding a new vehicle).
It’s still is status symbol based on looks alone. Rich don’t mind taking it to the dealer and driving their second car while it’s being fixed.
This is why I am hanging on to my 2021 4Runner TRD Pro until one of us dies. No one will ever convince me that these smaller, high-boost turbocharged engines are going to be as reliable as naturally-aspirated engines from quality manufacturers.
Current defender owner. Had for 3yrs - love it.
Before that disco 4 for 4 yrs - loved it
Before that RR hybrid for 3yrs - loved it.
Over those years, minor issues. People love this LR fear porn. If you get a dud you get a dud. Ive had a recently terrible experience with a Tesla (wont own one again)
Your videos are very entertaining and informative. Appreciate your channel. Consumer perception has inertia and is always a lagging indicator of the actual state of affairs. So no surprise that JLR may generally be more reliable than common opinion would have it, and Toyota less so.
"Happy wife - happy life" is one of the phrases both my wife and I _HATE_ the most!
Such an antiquated viewpoint that needs to evolve. We always say: _"Happy couple sees no trouble."_
This is the way forward ladies and gentlemen.
Stay classy my friends.
Somebody should tell that to women.
@@Holden-McGroin Oh they know but they refuse to acknowledge.
Apparently, only the woman in the relationship is allowed to be happy these days. What a sad and misguided time we currently inhabit.
_"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."_ *~George Orwell*
Stay classy my friend.
@@BertShackleford We do know!
The problem is that other women want to put us down and shut us up for speaking the truth. They like being the dictator in the relationship. I truly feel bad for those men stuck in that type of marriage.
You deserve better treatment gentlemen.
Funny thing is that statement is a comedic jest that few of the most sappy suckers see as an actual viewpoint. Your happy couple cliche is just as sad. Stay in the box my moron! 🙄
Thank you for saying this. BTW, aren't all kittens/cats crepuscular? @@crepuscularkitten4911
Long story short, its great when it’s not broken.
I have a Jaguar and the warranty/service side has been amazing. People don't realize how generous they are, and that the warranty period also covers routine maintenance. Regular service is covered, and it's not a lease. My F-Pace has only had a couple little quirks (low coolant warning and a sporadic check engine light) that the dealer addressed and explained immediately. QC seems the be JLR's weakest link but they still blow all the US manufacturers away in every aspect, especially when you consider companies like GM and Ford seem to think Explorer's and Tahoe's warrant the same price point as Range Rover's.
I think it is the worst excuse to sell. Those are small things and was sorted out. All other negative comments here are just people who never owned a LR. As a family we have driven LR since 1993. So far 25 to date and counting including first edition 110 D240 no issues and still going. I myself drive a 110 D300 HSE and are just as happy as can be. But still selling the best version LR because of two small mechanical issues that was sorted and you having just the best service from LR is honestly is not a reason to let it go. They really do go above and beyond for the product and customers. Happy LR owner from South Africa
whats its worth now half of what you paid for it
Part of the issue is that most people who want to buy a Defender, want it new, so the market for a 2nd one shrinks quickly. Add in the fact that the model is quite new and frankly I would be leery of touching one from the first and 2nd year build. This will have an effect of dragging the value down as well.
In my opinion, the trade-in value alone makes keeping it for at least another year or two the best option financially, assuming you can afford it in the first place. Besides, once everything is fixed under warranty, it might be pretty reliable, and if it isn't, you can still trade it later.
Defender is a very cool looking SUV. But having issues makes a person wonder if. I had issues with a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe Ultimate that I got new, loved that thing, V-6 was fast.. but I could not trust it anymore so I traded it in in 2017 for a Subaru Forester XT that I kept for 6 years with 37k miles and had no issues, traded it in for a 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4X in June 2023. I love this truck.
It seems it's a known issue of the Defender losing power steering in certain circumstances. Do they have a fix for this? I've seen people on their forum who bought a Defender 3-4 years ago had this same issue.
As a Tech in Puerto Rico, I've never dealt with any Power Steering issue on the Defenders, I think maybe one or two other techs did once each. So idk, different markets have different problems is what I've learned from talking to other techs at the JLR Training Academy.
Edit: well not different markets, we're still USDM, I meant different envirements.
Well, perhaps there is a connection between the incredible buying experience and the future breakdown as in they know it's coming because they know there are serious quality issues still plaguing the brand... I had recently looked at Range Rover and in conversation with a saleswoman, she had strongly recommended I lease and not purchase. She will remain nameless, god bless her, she actually cared about her customers.
Wife: "I've fallen out of love with my ticking time bomb of a vehicle."
😂😂😂
30k in a year...nuts...thank you for your service by ordering new
Did the explorer pack cause alot of wind noise?
I'm surprised that it made it to 10k miles without problems.
I worked at a Land Rover dealer. The amount of catastrophic failures we saw in low mileage and well care for vehicles was shocking. At 60k their suspensions are wasted, electrical failures, coolant leaks. We rarely saw one exceed 150k miles even with every bit of maintenance done. What was hilarious was how many came off the trailer brand new with major problems. That’s what happens when you buy a British built India owned vehicle.
Were things much better untill India owned JLR ?
@@nitinchauhan409 slightly better but not much.
Yep JLR are crap.
A brand where brake calipers often cost $2,000. each, textured plastic fascia trim $900. a piece, dealer labor rates of $250./hr or more and the list goes on. While interiors are often beautifully trimmed and styling is nice, let the blue bloods and glitterati keep their favorite SUV.
Yep, definitely not for the poor 🙄
another great review and yep, gotta keep the "boss" happy! My wife was the same with our Aviator. After the transmission went out on the fwy at 10k miles she was done. Fair or not. Can't blame the ladies for being afraid of getting stranded out in the jungle..:)
I’m torn between the Defender and the Lexus GX. Would like to try the Defender but reviews of my local dealer is not good for service. But I get it. Sometimes just luck of draw. Had a Tesla S with no real issues. Had problems with Audi, Porsche, bmw, Mercedes.
Yup there’s a good reason they are ranked last in customer satisfaction and reliability for ALL manufacturers
Thanks for the review. For a car at that price to break down is not acceptable. The dealership should provide a 1st class experience, they should have breakfast and tea waiting. I buy cars that are lower end and had fewer problems in year 1.
I’m giving up. I’m on my 4th range and I’m waiting for it to get back from the shop for the 5000th time. It’s going right away. You can’t keep them on the road
The cost of maintenance not covered by warranty is insane
Power steering went out at 150 miles!?!?!?!?!?! Land Rover are really outdoing themselves these days, ROFL!!!!!
Yeah I would have forced the dealer to buy it back under lemon law if there’s one in state purchased.
Is that case on the right side block your view? Too much to change for LHD?
They are not interchangeable, unless you buy one from a RHD market. JLR Tech here.
Also, they don't really block your view all that much, regardless the car has your back with Blind Spot Monitoring and most have surround cameras and ClearSight™ rear view mirror camera.
I had a 2006 Range Rover HSE which I bought certified preowned in 2007 and ran until 2018. Put 135,000 miles on it and the only issue I ever really had was the compressor for the air suspension crapped out on me once in 2016. The repair bill for that was $1,600 at the time.
Honestly would have gotten a Defender as a replacement if I wasn't so enamored by the Bronco when it was announced and which I have been enjoying greatly since I picked mine up in 2021 (Non Sasquatch Outer Banks 4DR with the 2.3L Ecoboost)
Keep a ten mil wrench in the glovebox. When power steering goes out open cover under passenger seat and disconnect the battery for ten seconds. Steering fixed.
I will always be a fan of Land Rover brand for it's designed capabilities and comforts. I'd like to drive one.Unfortunately I cannot afford a new one :( I'm looking around for a used Defender but I fear it might put me in a financial hole when something breaks out once warranty is out
why would you buy something that you'd worry about financial ruin if something broke? It's just a car. No car is worth serious financial risk.
@@MrRandomcommentguy just the way I think.I chose a different vehicle and I’m happy w/it
Well you could have some fun with this. How about stringing together all the clips of the Defender stranding you, and you working on it? The backing song can be the theme from "Curb Your Enthusiasm". 😊
Lol
It’s got to be worth $65? It is a gorgeous vehicle Ben! I looked at the Defender.
I love the defender but would only buy the base 4 cylinder model with the 18"rims and add on the off road options
You made the beginners error of not buying 2 to keep 1 running while the other is at the mechanic.
I've watched your videos and still decided to order one. My build should be here in May. I'm currently driving a 2020 Lexus 460 GX. I love the car, but the infotainment system is very outdated. I chose Defender 110 over the new GX. Because my dealer told me I was 480 on the waiting list, meaning it would be 2025 before I received my truck.
I have just over 44k miles on my 2020 110 and have taken it across the country through forests and deserts. Only issue I've had was the coolant reservoir had to be replaced due to a defect. Just did my routine maintenance and asked my service agent about mechanical issues they've seen with other 110s. There's another 110 in my area with 140k+ miles and they tell me they've only had to change out the headlights. All that to say, hope you enjoy your new Defender! Don't let the negative Land Rover reliability hype train get to you.
@YoungNChannel Thanks.... Even though every vehicle is different, this was good information.
Hope you enjoy spending lots of time at the service shop.
@tspidey007 The funny thing is I've interacted with several owners who say they haven't had any problems. The new GX is going to the Tundra engine, which has had plenty of problems. Who knows how their vehicle is going perform until they drive it.
The new defender was tested for 1.2 million miles during the testing phase. I think JLR have worked on their reliability record.
'Pangea' green.... very aptly named for a Land Rover. Pangea was the super-continent that fell apart and broke into pieces.
lol That is so damn funny... I may use that line in the future
It has nothing to do with the reliability of the defender, there are tons of defenders out there, when you have money, you want a new car every year, that's how simple it is
Would have ordered a Defender 90 by now but of all the things you can customize, you can’t pay for the larger screen. Just not even an option. Only thing that’s been more strange in my shopping experience is that in 2024 the Porsche Macan does not support Android Auto. Apple Play only - and they don’t apologize for it.
Slightly misleading title. It sounds like you had one problem, but you couldn’t be happier with the vehicle
wow...I hope you guys did alot of water fording and off roading with all that extra cool equipment. The vast majority of these are pavement queens but for many people its about the "active lifestyle" image. More than enough vehicle to tackle a gravel driveway
drive to the park city or aspen for a ski weekend
HAhahahahahaa Awesome comment! I died. You just know his wife was fording rivers on the way to get her hair done. Lolz
I've had four Toyotas, Prado 120, Prado 150 (company car), 79 series (still own) and a 200 Sahara TTV8 diesel (still own). 600k between them and not one break down. All of them lived in the Pilbara and did hard work. I'll give you the tip - no JLR product will last the way these did (have). BTW I also owned a Discovery but after two engine rebuilds to reach 280k I kicked the habit of these POS.
Had three RR vogues L322 model with up to 120k miles with only expected age related problems expensive to run and service but can't find another make with same kudos and luxurious daily drive
No matter how great the warranty and the dealer is (I mean, it does, but not for long term ownership when the warranty expires... ) if the vehicle needs to be there often, I can understand wanting to trade it in... Overall, Land Rover is less reliable and cost of ownership is much higher than other brands.
I love the looks of the Defender and thought about getting one... but depreciation, cost of services, overall reliability issues... I just could not do it. But man does it look amazing. Specially in the configuration (with the options) that you got.
Your wife is making the smart decision. Best to bite the bullet and get rid of it now. Looking forward to seeing what she gets next.
Most unreliable vehicles I’ve ever owned. Loved them when they ran but mine left me sitting too many times. I agree with your statement on customer service. Land Rover has great customer service.
Where did you get all your money at such a young age?
Haha so dramatic. The overwhelming majority of new Defender owners are more than happy with their rigs, but a video about that wouldn't get nearly the views. I'm on my second new Defender and it's by far the best vehicle I've ever owned.
can not imagine dropping 90k on a landrover they are legendary for their depreciation and problems, I'd get her a 4 runner before they downgrade them to the 4cylinder
4 runners lost all class after 1996…. My 1996 is in mint condition with upgrades and will be 4$ale soon, I’m buying a Defender 💙❗️
I bought one of those ancient vehicle that Ben mentioned. And so far so good.
We were offered 60k on our 2020 V-8 Range Rover HSE, MSRP 134k, at time we were trying to trade it had 40k miles, in 3 years it lost 60% of its value!
Land Rover Discovery LR4. 120k miles only replaced two lower control arms. Best car I have ever owned.
Perhaps your wife would consider the upcoming GX550 as a replacement. Likely less finicky but also family friendly. I guessed 65K but damn, that's quite shocking!
buying a car is basically a claw crane.
i had a nissan rogue with so many issues and sold it in 40k miles
Honda accord that had many issues (was not even 30k miles)
now has volvo xc90 with 30k miles but no single issue at all
im thinkin to buy a defender 110 atm.
When a Land Rover / Range Rover owners post comments here that they never had any issues, that's a complete BS. There were known issues but owners tend to lie about it or have amnesia for some reason. It's better to share your true story that the warranty will cover the engine light, brake calipers, engine oil leak, etc., and not just be an ambassador of the brand. Bottomline is LR//RR are good looking and cool cars,, hands down, and offers social status, and that's what the brand is good at. I might get a used one by the way, because it looks cool. =D
Sorry for your experience; I have had 2 Landrovers - including the L663 - best cars I have ever had 😃👍
People like you that say things like "that's just the way it is today and we have to deal with it" is the reason that's the way it is today.
Try giving your money to a company that makes and sells a dependable vehicle and if enough of us do that then the market will follow.
Brsnd new toyota and lexus models have issues for a year or two then its over, thats why they hold their value so well. Land rovers always have issue no matter how many years in production.. thats why their values always tank.... dont try to make it seam like they are anything close to having the same reliability, longevity or hold the same value.....
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Land Rover/Range Rover are cutting-edge high tech, Toyota's are like tractors. Hence why everyone wants a Land Rover.
@@agt155I’d take an old school Land Rover like a D90 or D110 with solid axles and removable top. I’d be embarrassed to drive a new one. It’s designed for accountants and golfers who want to look like they go hiking occasionally.
Wow! Great car! The first fault appeared only at 150 miles…:-)
It’s a shame that a car company that’s been making such beautiful trucks since the 30s can’t make them more reliable… I loved / hated my rover but after replacing my headlights over 10 times in 3 1/2 years I’ve moved on but god I love the looks of the velar 😁😁
Happy Spouse, Happy House.
It's okay to evaluate and concede / yield to her reasonable wishes without summarizing it to Happy Wife Happy Life. I'm sure you're not happy with 30%+ lost on the vehicle, or would be okay with another trade-in lost in the future.
Misleading title for this video
The original Defender sold new in the US for $35k in the 90s and today is worth...?
I'm sure she reasoned about the consequences once the warranty ran out if it was having such major issues so early on. I'd be scared too imagining how it would bombard the bank account every now and then. She was being wise and looking into the future.
Interesting. My ‘21 has 60K miles and other than an O2 sensor it’s been problem free. I was concerned, but this has been the most reliable car I’ve ever had in 40 years of driving. Keeping it for the long term.
as much I love look…i am definitely not going to consider it for issues I have read on many forums
Well... Land Rover has so many opportunities to practice their customer service, they've gotten quite good at it.
You give them a 12 out of 10 for dealer customer service. They HAVE TO have great customer service because their vehicles are so notoriously unreliable that, if it weren't for great service, they would be out of business in the US overnight. I had 3, all awful. I want a Defender - love that vehicle!. I just can't seem to pay that kind of money for a known reliability issue of a brand , and the insurance cost are double what my Wrangler 4xe was. Depreciation is awful, planned factory service is outrageously high. My Jeep was $150 at 30K miles. Land Rover, not sure now but it's about $2000 at the 21K service. PS. At 10K miles there are very few cars or trucks that have major problems. The LR brand is rated the bottom or worst of all brands. Fact. Again, I clearly have loved having them, I had 3, but seriously they can't compare with anything else that's more reliable, and that's everything else.
Bro you cannot defend this brand when you have power steering going out at 150 miles, imagine the issues this car will have at 150k miles, if it makes it there
For what you paid for it it is outrageous things are going wrong at 10'000 miles. And that trade in price is disgusting. She has made the right move.
I am not as aligned with your opinion on the Defender being so cutting edge. Considering it is a luxury vehicle it is really behind the times in the features area like ACC. I want to buy one of these but, it’s frustrating that this is a high option when ACC is standard on many considerably cheaper cars (Toyotas 😅).
Land Rovers are best enjoyed under warranty and with an alternative means of transportation.
Also I'm around vehicles from every manufacture... Every manufacture has issues... These are machines.... Not every machine is perfect. It's what the manufacture does to make the experience right
Land Rover knows that people don't really care about reliability until something goes wrong. So they spend money on branding and pretty interiors and posh dealerships. They make millions selling style over substance.
Land Rover's loyalty is to people who purchase the vehicle new, not someone who gets it for a 'bargain' 6 years down the line.
Bingo ! Poor reliability, terrible resale, and it just frustrates me. I want to like it, and own it, but it’s just not possible. I’m not gonna deal with above. JMO ..
Very good video. Thank you.
Probably a one of a kind dealer, I would be suprised if all of them were like this?
Interesting video! Land Rovers are considered quirky vehicles. I do see your point about other vehicles but some vehicles have more quirks than others and this is one of them. I considered this vehicle when I was looking and decided not to because I do not have the time to be in a shop dealing with quirks. To be honest, I think your wife instinct is dead on! So what did you eventually do did you get a different vehicle and if so which one?
Saw another video on this SUV where they went camping out in the sticks; the battery went dead on it BECAUSE every time you open the driver door the electronics boot up every time! That wasn't the worst part---they got a jump BUT it still needed a tech to come out with a laptop to reset the engine management computer. What a POS........
30k dollar depreciation for 10k miles? That is 3 dollar per mile just for loss of value!! Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with Toyota.
Ok have fun? 💁♀️ 🤷♀️ no Toyota will drive or turn heads like this 😂😂😂
It may be my ears, but what did it need at 10k miles, coolant lines?🤔 I'd say power steering going out at 150 miles and then something else at 10k is a sign Land Rovers are leasemobiles just like Mercedes, BMW, Volvo and some Audi/Porsche models. I only have anecdotal experience with Land Rover...Coworker bought a 2017 Defender that was 2 years old and under 30k miles at the time, ended up dumping it in less than a year. Then a family member bought the small model, (name escapes me) the one where Victoria Beckham (lol) was involved in the design? That thing was an absolute nightmare almost from the beginning and seemed to spend more time at the dealer than in their garage. They toughed it out until the 4 year lease was up and then ran away from it. They were seriously afraid to drive the thing more than 50 miles from the city they lived in because it contained the only LR dealership within more than 200 miles. That's not what I'd call a pleasant ownership experience. Sure they look cool, have some awesome customizing from the factory, drive great and have fun gadgets...but if you're afraid to take a vehicle made to go off-road even on a vacay that's mostly pavement, what's the point? Land Rover long ago joined Jeep as former military/hardcore outdoor vehicles to expensive (and in some ways fragile) status symbols. Sure both Jeep and LR still have some serious off-road chops, but both are far more likely to leave you needing a very very expensive remote off-road tow than the alternatives from Toyota...or literally anything else.
And this is precisely why I recommend older design new cars, like the 4Runner, Frontier, GX, to friends. Being an older design, a lot of the TSBs, refinements have already been done. Older NA motors lack some of crazy electronics and complexity of newer engines, turbo chargers, and other nonsense.
Just bought an outgoing 2023 GX for precisely this reason.
You only lose on the trade in value if you trade it in instead of driving it for well after its paid off.
30% loss in the first year is pretty typical for new cars
I've been shopping for a used Defender and I think the offer you got for trade in is pretty High. I can find a retail priced 110, with the same spec as your, minus the paint protection, for around $60,000, One of the reasons I won't buy a new car.
Even carmax offered mid 60s, don’t know what to tell you.
I like your review . I had a brand new defender 2023 I ordered . I had a few issues like yours within a month . It was an embarrassing situation and I could not drive my car. I spent almost 100K and could not drive it . they fixed the problems . Why are you not mentioning ? Defender is not a reliable car . You are not getting paid from land rover I guess. I traded my car quickly .
be bold since you are not getting paid from them . sometimes people rely on your reviews.