We did this film in April, 1998. Four of us from TVRM went with the locomotive. NS would not allow 4501 to pull the train, so NS supplied diesels to tow up to the movie set. Once we were on scenc, the art department spent a few days painting the locomotive and hopper cars as N&W equipment. Then O. Winston Link arrived on set to do the cameo appearance as the train engineer. The actual engineer, a TVRM crew member, ducked out of sight for the shot. Bill Purdie was not at all involved in this movie production. I am running 4501 the first and last time you see it in the film.
You are the second person whose comment I've read, stating that you took part in this film. I'm blown away. Are you saying that you are actually hiding in this very scene?
The four of us from TVRM that went split into two team of two (engineer and fireman). For the O. Winston Link scene (the clip shown here), the other crew was on the locomotive. I was the engineer for the scene showing just the driving wheels with steam coming out of the cylinder cocks and the daytime scene of the steam locomotive going over the creek bridge.
Mark Ray I can't wait to see #4501 run again!! This is going to be exciting! When I took my cab ride in Southern #630 on the Missionary Ridge Local to the shop in July 2011, I actually got to stand on the running board of Southern #4501 in the shop. Hopefully I will be able to ride #4501's cab once it is restored.
Erich Diebold I am glad that Norfolk Southern is still continuing their 21st Century Steam program, despite CSX being the only commercial railroad to say no to steam excursions.
Scrapyard: “Ummmmm.... where did you get this?” Person: “Oh from that old freight train line down the road” Scrapyard: “You mean the one that’s abandoned right?” Person: “........”
Lol, my scrapyard was hesitant when me and my buddy haulled in almost a ton of railroad clips that was setting back in the woods for decades. They took it though. We got over $120 for a hour of work.
The N&W railroad ran steam long after most other railroads transitioned to diesel with the last one being retired in 1960 this was because at the time N&W steamers were more powerful than diesels so it was better to use one steam locomotive per train than 2 diesels. The most powerful 4-8-4 northern ever built were the N&W j class locomotives with a tractive effort of 84,981 pounds the F7a a new diesel model at the time had a tractive effort of 40,000 pounds and the N&W also had the Y6a 2-8-8-2 which had a tractive effort of 166,000 pounds so it would take 5 diesels to pull a train that one Y6a could pull but by 1959 newer diesels had been released that were stronger and easier to maintain and on October 24th, 1959 the last revenue steam trip on the N&W was pulled by N&W 611. By 1960 all of the N&W steam locomotives were officially retired one of the last steam holdouts in the country had completely dieselized but the N&W still ran steam 7 years after one of its main competitors the southern railway had completely dieselized in 1953. Several N&W steam locomotives still exist today and many still run like N&W 611 the last of the J class left and Strasburg 475 a former N&W 4-8-0 now running on the Strasburg railway in Pennsylvania.
You gotta appreciate that scene at 1:54 showing 1 solid line. Then the very next scene showing a switch and the line they are on is already detached from the main. That's good suspense
When I was young, I used to wander the still operating line running by my grandparents house and collect old rusted metal, so log as it wasn't part of the track itself. If it was lying on the side, however, it was mine. By the time I had stopped(as I found out I was breaking the law by trespassing and potentially stealing), I had a good pile of spikes, bolts and fishplates. We ended up throwing them away, not sure if we just wanted to get rid of them or if we knew selling them would incriminate us. I was 10 at the time, and the memories still live on.
I don't know if anyone knows this or if its mentioned in the comments but October Sky is actually an anagram for Rocket Boys and thats how they got the name of the movie October Sky as well as the fact that Sputnik was launched in October
#4501's restoration is almost complete. I got to stand on the side of the running board next to the engine's boiler when I visited Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum. That was also the same time I paid $20 to ride in the newly restored steam locomotive #630.
That is Southern Railway #4501 and the late Great Bill Purdie (of Southern Railway Fame) at the throttle! The Whistle was borrowed from Norfolk and Western J Class 4-8-4 #611 preserved at the Virginia Transportation Museum. The 4501 is currently being restored at the Tennessee Valley Railway Museum for excursion used by Norfolk Southern.
I think I might have found 3 goofs in this entire scene: 1:36 The rail was closer to the other pieces of rail, but at 1:38, it's a bit further away from where it once was. 1:54 Notice how there's just one track? At 2:01, a junction just magically appears. And at 1:48, more of the track is seen, but at 1:58, more of the track was taken apart.
This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie as well, which I remember watching for the first time in Chemistry class eight years ago. Of course, as you can probably guess from my profile picture, my interest lies more in seeing the actual locomotive than in the underlying science of rocket building. Furthermore, as proof of how much of a railroad nut I am, I believe the engine in this scene is Southern Railway #4501, a 12-wheeled (2-8-2) locomotive built in 1911 in Philadelphia.
@@Uno_611 uhh southern doesn’t exist anymore they merged with the Norfolk and western in the 1980s and became Norfolk southern 4501now resides at the Tennessee valley railroad museum in Chattanooga
@@stephanielaurent3888 they also both show an object flying through the sky. And they both have a character that's trying to put an end to that object.
i got lucky and got to be in this movie..it was a blast!! i live in oliver springs tn where some of it was made..im the guy that said,,,hey rocket boy mars is that way.lol great movie!!!
I saw this about the time it came out during high school and was always wondering what the rail pulling was all about. I thought it had something to do with the actual building of their rocket. Come back and watch this clip later and find it was just a means to fund it off the scrap value!!
watched this in physics on the last day, that was a good movie, the locomotive is Southern #4501 2-8-2 owned now by the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
It's weird how both October Sky and The Iron Giant came out in 1999 and they both featured scenes where a railroad was dismantled for its steel, but then the train comes and they try to put it back, but are unable to do so.
This movie was filmed not too far from where I grew up. 4501 was formerly K&T Railway 12. She’s still “The First Lady of Stearns” to us McCreary County boys.
So there's Fried Green Tomatoes with A&WP 290, and October Sky with Southern 4501. Damn, the 90s were taking locomotives in their southern landscapes it seems.
I lived next to train tracks 1950 I played on those train tracks also . Jimmy and David Till my neighbors had Lone Ranger Gloves. I asked if I could wear them. They had fake cowhide fringe. Jimmy said I had to put my head on the tracks and listen for a train to wear his gloves. So I did. But a train didn’t come so I didn’t get to wear his Lone Ranger gloves. I still remember getting specks of soot in my eyes from the trains smoke. Lockwood Ave., Elberon, NJ
At 1:54 there is no junction just one track...at 2:02 it magically appears lol...neat scene tho with the Southern #4501 which was just recently restored and running
For some reason they decided to use a Southern 2-8-2 mikado type locomotive, which is strange because the N&W never owned any 2-8-2 engines. Instead they used 4-8-0 mastadon types also known as “Mollies”. Why use an old Southern engine that’s already been running since the 1980s and isn’t even historically correct when the Strasburg Railroad up in PA just restored N&W 4-8-0 mastadon type #475 aka “Mollie,”. 6 years prior? It seems weird to me.
It is the southern 4501, I have seen it many times in person during the 90's at the town of Appalachia,Virginia Coal/railroad days, wearing her beautiful southern green paint job, it now belongs to the Tennessee Valley Railroad and has be repainted in blah.
I'm sure you know this by now, but that use of the whistle is called quilling. It's when a low pressure of steam is shot through the whistle to shift its pitch. It sounds a bit like howling,
That's really neat that you've seen her up close, as opposed to only seeing pictures as I have. It's also kind of a shame that they painted over her lovely original coat of green; I remember someone saying that there are no rules dictating that a locomotive has to be painted black. At the very least, though, she's still around, and not simply a memory.
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but the movie was actually filmed in Tennessee. Despite this, I do give props to the film crew for painting the engine in a N&W scheme, which would be appropriate for WV. At the same time, however, N&W did not own any mikados (at least not to my knowledge). Also the cameo with O. Winston Link was a nice touch.
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I love the slow progression from relief and exhaustion to sheer, utter panic. 😂
We did this film in April, 1998. Four of us from TVRM went with the locomotive. NS would not allow 4501 to pull the train, so NS supplied diesels to tow up to the movie set. Once we were on scenc, the art department spent a few days painting the locomotive and hopper cars as N&W equipment. Then O. Winston Link arrived on set to do the cameo appearance as the train engineer. The actual engineer, a TVRM crew member, ducked out of sight for the shot. Bill Purdie was not at all involved in this movie production.
I am running 4501 the first and last time you see it in the film.
You are the second person whose comment I've read, stating that you took part in this film. I'm blown away. Are you saying that you are actually hiding in this very scene?
The four of us from TVRM that went split into two team of two (engineer and fireman). For the O. Winston Link scene (the clip shown here), the other crew was on the locomotive. I was the engineer for the scene showing just the driving wheels with steam coming out of the cylinder cocks and the daytime scene of the steam locomotive going over the creek bridge.
Mark Gray Ah, I see. Wow, I consider that a double dose of honor: Driving such a beautiful locomotive for a truly epic film.
Mark Ray I can't wait to see #4501 run again!! This is going to be exciting! When I took my cab ride in Southern #630 on the Missionary Ridge Local to the shop in July 2011, I actually got to stand on the running board of Southern #4501 in the shop. Hopefully I will be able to ride #4501's cab once it is restored.
Erich Diebold I am glad that Norfolk Southern is still continuing their 21st Century Steam program, despite CSX being the only commercial railroad to say no to steam excursions.
Nowadays, it's illegal for scrapyards to accept any part of the railways for this exact reason.
Yep sometimes rails that looked abandoned are simply used infrequently.
Al Boreland Yep, you always gotta remember the short lines!
Scrapyard: “Ummmmm.... where did you get this?”
Person: “Oh from that old freight train line down the road”
Scrapyard: “You mean the one that’s abandoned right?”
Person: “........”
Lol, my scrapyard was hesitant when me and my buddy haulled in almost a ton of railroad clips that was setting back in the woods for decades. They took it though. We got over $120 for a hour of work.
They'll still take it. Scrap is not a business that square people get in to.
October 1957 When Steam locomotives and Sputnik existed at the same time.
Nick P. Wilde 🚂🚀
The Norfolk & Western retired its last steam locomotive in 1960.
The N&W railroad ran steam long after most other railroads transitioned to diesel with the last one being retired in 1960 this was because at the time N&W steamers were more powerful than diesels so it was better to use one steam locomotive per train than 2 diesels. The most powerful 4-8-4 northern ever built were the N&W j class locomotives with a tractive effort of 84,981 pounds the F7a a new diesel model at the time had a tractive effort of 40,000 pounds and the N&W also had the Y6a 2-8-8-2 which had a tractive effort of 166,000 pounds so it would take 5 diesels to pull a train that one Y6a could pull but by 1959 newer diesels had been released that were stronger and easier to maintain and on October 24th, 1959 the last revenue steam trip on the N&W was pulled by N&W 611. By 1960 all of the N&W steam locomotives were officially retired one of the last steam holdouts in the country had completely dieselized but the N&W still ran steam 7 years after one of its main competitors the southern railway had completely dieselized in 1953. Several N&W steam locomotives still exist today and many still run like N&W 611 the last of the J class left and Strasburg 475 a former N&W 4-8-0 now running on the Strasburg railway in Pennsylvania.
The B&O ran steam up until 58.
Steam wasn't erradicated on British Railways until 1968.
I love how they're flailing and trying to stop the train while O. Winston Link just casually waves and toots the whistle as he takes the switch 😂
NO
You gotta appreciate that scene at 1:54 showing 1 solid line. Then the very next scene showing a switch and the line they are on is already detached from the main. That's good suspense
I've seen this movie in 8th grade in my science class, and I laughed at the part where the train takes a different route.
6th grade, everyone in class was on the edge of their seats. Then the train didn't crash and everyone was disappointed. XD
7th grade😂
10th grade
7th grade everyone was laughing so hard because the boys made a fool of themselves
I saw* Not “I’ve seen”
October sky is now an all time classic based off of a real life story and is also my favourite movie
The most relatable emotion at 1:13 for many circumstances growing up.
"...what have we done?"
When I was young, I used to wander the still operating line running by my grandparents house and collect old rusted metal, so log as it wasn't part of the track itself. If it was lying on the side, however, it was mine. By the time I had stopped(as I found out I was breaking the law by trespassing and potentially stealing), I had a good pile of spikes, bolts and fishplates. We ended up throwing them away, not sure if we just wanted to get rid of them or if we knew selling them would incriminate us. I was 10 at the time, and the memories still live on.
Nobody was going to miss that stuff. The railroads never pick it up. Throw steel in the recycling, not the trash.
one of the best movies of all time my opinion
Agreed
This and Remember The Titans
4501 really stole the show!
Absolute beauty.
Agreed, she’s a true southern beauty
@@sweetsunnyvibes ?
Luna McLean He’s expressing his emotions.
Good
I love the whistle of that engine.
At least I know the 1 pair of tracks by my house are actually abandoned, since the switch has been removed and the crossing was paved over
2:00 love that whistle
Me too
Same
It’s a beautiful whistle I can hear it from here
I vaguely remember an alternate version where the train conductor flips them off.
*Engineer*
1:51 When your parents tell you to do someting, you hear they coming inside and don't remember if you did it, then go see if you did it
I’ve heard Roy Lee running the wrong way was an accident at least one take but they left it in
I don't know if anyone knows this or if its mentioned in the comments but October Sky is actually an anagram for Rocket Boys and thats how they got the name of the movie October Sky as well as the fact that Sputnik was launched in October
That train driver is the biggest savage troll ever!
#4501's restoration is almost complete. I got to stand on the side of the running board next to the engine's boiler when I visited Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum. That was also the same time I paid $20 to ride in the newly restored steam locomotive #630.
9 years on and shes now the main one pulling the local right now
Everybody's here for the railroad, I'm here for the rockets :-)
Your a rocket loser
That's nice :)
right movie, wrong clip lol
*You're
David Bergara González Ahem, everyone includes you.
This reminds me of stand by me of the railroad track.
And the Fried Green Tomatoes scene
That is Southern Railway #4501 and the late Great Bill Purdie (of Southern Railway Fame) at the throttle! The Whistle was borrowed from Norfolk and Western J Class 4-8-4 #611 preserved at the Virginia Transportation Museum. The 4501 is currently being restored at the Tennessee Valley Railway Museum for excursion used by Norfolk Southern.
That is NOT 611's whistle
I think all of us can agree that the locomotive in this clip (aka southern 4501) has a very badass whistle
Not too bad. But in my opinion, the best train whistle belongs to the Big Boy 4-8-8-4 locomotive.
I think I might have found 3 goofs in this entire scene:
1:36 The rail was closer to the other pieces of rail, but at 1:38, it's a bit further away from where it once was.
1:54 Notice how there's just one track? At 2:01, a junction just magically appears.
And at 1:48, more of the track is seen, but at 1:58, more of the track was taken apart.
Whistle Workz Productions exactly, the phantom switch
Stand By Me: Running from the train
October Sky: Running towards the train
How the tables turn
This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie as well, which I remember watching for the first time in Chemistry class eight years ago. Of course, as you can probably guess from my profile picture, my interest lies more in seeing the actual locomotive than in the underlying science of rocket building. Furthermore, as proof of how much of a railroad nut I am, I believe the engine in this scene is Southern Railway #4501, a 12-wheeled (2-8-2) locomotive built in 1911 in Philadelphia.
Woah!
yeah... i was freaking out when i saw it...
@@floppaeditz123 In the same way the characters were, or more out of joy at seeing the locomotive in action?
Watching this clip and reading the comments fills me with a feeling of bittersweet nostalgia
Man for 4501 from the southern railway is a really good actor in the scene
actually it was used as a n&w steam engine in the movie as it still works for southern to this day
@@Uno_611 i now they repaint her in a N&W livery
@@Uno_611 uhh southern doesn’t exist anymore they merged with the Norfolk and western in the 1980s and became Norfolk southern 4501now resides at the Tennessee valley railroad museum in Chattanooga
This is one of my fav. scenes in one of my fav. movies. I just finished watching it in health class yesterday. Thank you, Mr. Schimp!!!!
1:31 *Thomas the tank engine theme plays out of nowhere*
Lmao
Southern 4501 is one of my favourite steam locomotives
Old Southern 4501 Still runnin today!
there's a scene in the iron giant where the tracks are sabotaged that movie also came out in 1999 and took place in 1957!!!
Both are wonderful films that also involve Sputnik, and share a song in common: "Searchin'" by The Coasters!
I love both films!
@@stephanielaurent3888 they also both show an object flying through the sky. And they both have a character that's trying to put an end to that object.
Also I just noticed, why did they spent all that time removing the track when it there were already taken apart further up lol
I feel like I know, but I do not
What a beautiful and powerful looking loco! her whistle has a nice sound.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Most Railfans are here only because of 4501
Don't deny it you are too
Nice
chopped exactly at the o. winston link cameo !!!
Speed in 1994 and October sky in 1999..The best 2 movies in the American history for me !
i got lucky and got to be in this movie..it was a blast!! i live in oliver springs tn where some of it was made..im the guy that said,,,hey rocket boy mars is that way.lol great movie!!!
That train scene gives me stand by me vibes.
1:27 LOL FOR THEIR REACTIONS THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE DAYDREAMING THOUGH
That Locomotive in the Clip is Southern Railway #4501
I saw this about the time it came out during high school and was always wondering what the rail pulling was all about. I thought it had something to do with the actual building of their rocket. Come back and watch this clip later and find it was just a means to fund it off the scrap value!!
One of the best scenes in the movie. First time you see that, you're as scared of the crash as the boys are.
STOP THE TRAIN
Southern 4501 Was built in 1911 by Baldwin locomotive works
watched this in physics on the last day, that was a good movie, the locomotive is Southern #4501 2-8-2 owned now by the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
The engineers are lucky they switched tracks
1:47 1:53 1:59 Isabella(Southern 4501)’s October Sky 6 Chime.
I Wish Isabella(Southern 4501)used her 3 Chime in Her Movie
1:58 (Train Whistle Blows)
1:15 Sudden realization
1:02 Whistle Blowing in Distance
1:10 Blowing Continues
1:27 Whistle Blowing Loudly
Its weird seeing the public library in my town being used in this movie:D
Good ol’ SOU 4501
imagine how stupid they looked to the train guy!!
Good thing that track did have points and already had another part of the rails missing, since I was worried that the train was going to derail.
It's weird how both October Sky and The Iron Giant came out in 1999 and they both featured scenes where a railroad was dismantled for its steel, but then the train comes and they try to put it back, but are unable to do so.
This movie was filmed not too far from where I grew up. 4501 was formerly K&T Railway 12. She’s still “The First Lady of Stearns” to us McCreary County boys.
Well, that should learn 'em...... That was actually a pretty good twist at the end, with a famous railfan doing a cameo role to boot.
So there's Fried Green Tomatoes with A&WP 290, and October Sky with Southern 4501.
Damn, the 90s were taking locomotives in their southern landscapes it seems.
1:58
"OH LONG JOHNSON!"
"OH LON- ...oh. Never mind."
Starring southern 4501
I lived next to train tracks 1950 I played on those train tracks also .
Jimmy and David Till my neighbors had Lone Ranger Gloves. I asked if I could wear them. They had fake cowhide fringe.
Jimmy said I had to put my head on the tracks and listen for a train to wear his gloves. So I did. But a train didn’t come so I didn’t get to wear his Lone Ranger gloves.
I still remember getting specks of soot in my eyes from the trains smoke. Lockwood Ave.,
Elberon, NJ
2:02 a steam train
This would so be me and three of my friends
Just noticed that one of the actors was Jesse from "The Fast and the Furious"!
Oh yeah!
me too 1:06 on the left
Visualize the win jessie
yup me too
He's hiding out from Johnny Tran in Coalwood, WV
This engine is still running in real life. However it dosen't have that whistle.
Actually movie clips is a good channel and gives us the main main thriller part of different movies
Love the engine & the whistle
could you imagine the horror they felt
I saw this movie when I was in Lockport Township High School in Lockport, Illinois when I was a sophomore.
At 1:54 there is no junction just one track...at 2:02 it magically appears lol...neat scene tho with the Southern #4501 which was just recently restored and running
What kind of whistle did she wore in this scene?
My guess is that the track was hidden behind the bush at 1:54
nice
Vincent Berkan she was wearing a central of Georgia 6 chime whistle
while the boys were tearing up one end, the railroad was building a new junction off camera.
For some reason they decided to use a Southern 2-8-2 mikado type locomotive, which is strange because the N&W never owned any 2-8-2 engines. Instead they used 4-8-0 mastadon types also known as “Mollies”. Why use an old Southern engine that’s already been running since the 1980s and isn’t even historically correct when the Strasburg Railroad up in PA just restored N&W 4-8-0 mastadon type #475 aka “Mollie,”. 6 years prior? It seems weird to me.
The locomotive used in the film was Southern 4501. (Pause at 2:03 and look at the red number plate)
1:58 train whistle
Plot twist: Southern 4501 was a paid actor
WHAT?! 4501? That's awesome! She's a good movie engine!
Good ole 4501. I rode on that train a few days ago!
You can actually look on Google maps where they were tearing up track leading to the abandoned Carreta no 2 mine. Actually quite funny 😅
R.I.H Blackbeard The Pirate 1680-1718- Cause Of Death- Killed By A Giant Explosion And Goes To Hell
It is the southern 4501, I have seen it many times in person during the 90's at the town of Appalachia,Virginia Coal/railroad days, wearing her beautiful southern green paint job, it now belongs to the Tennessee Valley Railroad and has be repainted in blah.
I remember seeing this in middle school and we all died laughing the second the first whistle blew
Whats up with these movies in the late fifties obsession with using steam locos? It was mostly diesel by 58.
1:02 train coming.
This is my favorite scene in the whole movie, watched it in Study Skills class
1:54 i like how they blow the whistle like that
I'm sure you know this by now, but that use of the whistle is called quilling. It's when a low pressure of steam is shot through the whistle to shift its pitch. It sounds a bit like howling,
I think the end of this scene was the best t-up for a montage evar
2:08: From what I’ve heard, that’s the real Homer Hickam
I believe that’s actually famed railroad photographer O. Winston Link, who captured some of his best works in 1950s West Virginia.
It is not Homer Hickam it is the gentleman mentioned above
I would have the same reaction as them, If I heard a train when the tracks were out.
If a railroad spike is worth $8, why the hell are they bothering with a 400lb piece of track that’s worth $1.50?
FreeSorin He was joking about the $8 spike
Isn’t a ‘buck fifty’ slang for $150?
Frank Garrett if so that would make a lot more sense
He said it’s worth $8.20 per ton
Lol, my scrap yard would give a nice chunk of change for 400lbs
That's really neat that you've seen her up close, as opposed to only seeing pictures as I have. It's also kind of a shame that they painted over her lovely original coat of green; I remember someone saying that there are no rules dictating that a locomotive has to be painted black. At the very least, though, she's still around, and not simply a memory.
She was painted black to stand in for a Norfolk & Western locomotive in the film, black with white lettering being N&W's paint scheme.
Winston o link was the engineer of course bill purdie was driving and got out of the way in time for the shots for the movie
Kind of weird seeing SOU 4501 in West Virginia!
Actually the second time making a movie in WVa
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but the movie was actually filmed in Tennessee. Despite this, I do give props to the film crew for painting the engine in a N&W scheme, which would be appropriate for WV. At the same time, however, N&W did not own any mikados (at least not to my knowledge). Also the cameo with O. Winston Link was a nice touch.
This is one of the best parts of the movie
I've been guessing this was 4501's last run before being placed on display
The train looks like Southern railway no.4501
I just learned that October Sky was filmed in
War, West Virginia.
Southern Railway 4501..my favorite steam locomotive. Long live the Southern Railway.
Now it runs at the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
Yep. Got to ride in the cab several times and blew the whistle once.@Edward19542
Love this scene its beautiful yet funny
1:18 "ODELL?"