I can’t believe someone said it’s weak. It is the best grain I have ever used for me. Very fast colonization and huge pin sets and huge mushroom flushes. Thanks for the killer video.
I know @Stunnin21 (the originator of Drippy Corn), and Ive been doing his Drippy corn procedure for about 3yrs now. Ive seen several "Drippy Corn" recipes, and this is as close to the real procedure as Ive seen here on TH-cam. A couple notations Id like to add for you and your subscribers. 1) @Stunnin21 and I decided 2.5hrs is a better run time than 90min. It does take an extra hour, but significantly reduces tam rate. Mine is virtually zero, its absolutely worth the extra hour, and will not burst your kernels. 2) 4lbs of popcorn yields enough for eight quart jars. It is highly beneficial to only fill the jars to about 1/2" to 1" below the curve of the jar neck. The "headspace" allows for more air in the jars and for better FAE, which aids in colonization and will hasten your rate of colonization. 3) 1/4c of corn syrup is what is added for a 4lb batch (which makes 8 quarts of hydrated kernels). However, it is not necessary to use corn syrup. It is advantageous to employ what ever glucose source you are also utilizing in your LC and agar. It is beneficial to keep that sugar the same across all mediums, as you are "training" the mycelium what to eat, and there will be no adaptation phase to a new source for the mycelium. This also helps keep contamination rates low, aiding the fungi with an opportunity to outpace any potential contaminants. For instance I use raw unprocessed sugar (Turbinado sugar) in my version of Drippy Corn, as it is my glucose source in both my LC and agar. Feel free to use whatever sugar source you like: ELME (Extra Light Malt Extract), sorghum syrup, molasses, honey, et al. 4) Ive found this method can also be applied to deer corn (which is substantially less expensive), as opposed to popcorn. Theres only one change to the procedure if youre using deer corn, which is the forced hydration phase. Instead of doing a 20min PC run, just let it build pressure till it hits 15psi, then immediately kill the heat and let depressurize as normal. It still gets its hydration, but if you run it the 20min many kernels will burst (because these deer corn kernels are open ended, unlike popcorn). 5) A bit of info on the hydration phase you and your viewers may be unaware of. The forced hydration phase exposes its endospores, which makes the endospores substantially easier to kill in the subsequent sterilization phase, which also helps to lower your rate of contamination. 6) Also, the vermiculite is missing from your version of this recipe. The grains can just sit in the strainer for 20min, and theyre ready to jar. No need to waste paper towels or sit out on a sheet to dry. Simply add enough vermiculite to the bottom of your jars to make a thin layer before adding the corn to the jars for sterilization. The purpose for the vermiculite is to absorb any excess moisture from the grains, but also keeping that moisture local and readily available for the colonizing mycelium to take full advantage of, slightly hastening the colonization process. We chose vermiculite due to it being non-nutritional additive and therefore highly resistant to contamination. Hope this info helps out, I enjoyed watching your video. You have earned a sub from old man 😁
Thank you an everyone else for the tips and advice! I did 1/2 cup corn syrup for an 8lb batch and after final sterilization the kernels are not popped but look surprisingly dark (brown/golden brown). I’m guessing it’s the sugar caramelizing but am curious if that’s normal/desired or if I messed up something?
@@matthewcastanette6053 you should be fine, they do darken a lil bit. I wish we had a way to show pics here in the comments, so I could look and see what youre talking about.
No lie I had this idea like 5 days ago but with honey in the grain water as it soaked ... I had the exact idea as to the mycelium transfering easier to something soaked in a tiny amount of the sugars it had been living in... And so I soaked a bucket of rye and a bucket of wbs and put honey in each. Like 3 maybe 4 grams in both 3 gallon buckets 1/3 to hal way full of grains. Soaked. Boiled. Dried for 5 hours or so (humid af where I'm from, drying grains can be a pain), jarred and pressure cooker for 45 min. I wait until jars are down to roomtemp for 2 or so hours then hit all 16 jars with a liquid culture and I have healthy growth established under every injection port after 3 and a half days. I'm impressed. Now the funniest part is I had never heard of this Tek until later that same night when a PGT video about 2 weeks old popped up in drippy corn. 😂 I couldn't believe it cause I thought I was doing something innovative. I can happily say it works with any grains and honey water too.
@@lukeblizzard5909thanks for sharing. I am just starting out. I inoculated 2 5 lb all in one grow bags and then 3 mix grain jars and today i’m going to inoculate 3 bags of uncle ben’s and make some jars of popcorn spawn but wanted to try the drippy corn method since it makes sense it would help colonize the mycelium even quicker. I’m eager to get to the harvest as i’m intending these for personal medicinal use.
@@x1handedbills I severely underestimated my ability to maintain a channel😅 I don't want to become another channel that has 500 videos going over common knowledge stuff. Based on the "How to make substrate" video, it seems more appropriate to make videos surrounding the harder to find topics. Also, I see you in Mycophilia chat ;)
@MidnightMycology my Lil home away from home haha. Might seem boring and over saturated to make the simple videos. But all the more incite from all angles is a good thing. Even the route I decided to take for popcorn seems great👍 my own Lil method. Maybe my Lil inputs could help. Never know. Your video got me using corn to an extent. So even you have helped others of a already known topic. Don't give up ha
You can check the Mycophilia general chat right now for a good chance to see what topic the next videos will be :) I won't disclose the alias, but you should get the idea
Great video, first thing that comes up when you search drippy corn, excited to give this a try, best of luck with your channel and keep the content coming!
Some one on the bottom post said it’s weak grain choice. But hey whitebeard that’s a very smart truck with putting vermiculite on bottom of jars. I just watched ur new video on you tube. Thanks
So it looked like those kernals were still mighty hydrated after sitting on a tray for 20 mins. Would you say this is still a good moisture content for colonization? I think back to PGTs or SlightlyFerals tek on grain prep and they both allowed the grain to dry on a tray for hours until only a slight amount of moisture was still present on the exterior of the grains. Has this tek shown in your vid worked well for you? Does it seem that the "more on the moist side" grains still serve well for colonization? Please let me know and props for making a drippy corn tek vid!
Of course! I have used this tek with both mason jars and spawn bags, and no excess moisture has presented itself in either. When I roll the mason jars, they still move and sound as if they are relatively dry, no clumping, and no pools of water at the bottom. My hypothesis is: because popcorn kernels are on the larger side of grains, the 20 minute pressure cook doesn't fully saturate them and whatever water is remaining on the kernels surface eventually gets absorbed. So if anything, they are still capable of holding more moisture (which is prime for L.C. and MSS syringes). I will be doing another video soon of the grain being inoculated to test the colonization rate. From what I've experienced so far, it takes about 3 weeks (with a break and shake at the 2nd) for absolute coverage... However, the proof is in the pudding so stay tuned 🥳
Stumbled across your comment and I’m wondering the same thing. Cuz i know that you can make some solid LC with 300g water and 15g light corn syrup. Maybe the nutrients in the corn water would also help?
@FAQU2 is right, but for more context, the corn syrup acts as a catalyst to the mycelium. It's essentially giving the myc. a "sugar rush" and boosts the growth, colonizing the grains faster than without sugar
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter you couldnt be more wrong. Vermiculite is actually part of the Drippy Corn tek, and it does the exact opposite of what you claim it does. Vermiculite has multiple benefits, actually reduces contaminants, and is highly resistant to contamination on its own because it has no nutritional profile. I dont know where you got your misinformation from, but you should definitely stop spreading it.
Thank you for making this video. It’s exactly the same products i had and you made it super easy to follow and answered the questions a newbie like myself would have. I’m so excited to get these babies inoculated with my penis envy lc. 😊😊😊
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter here you are again spouting nonsense. Of course there is a benefit, or we wouldnt be using them. Just because YOU dont understand, doesnt mean there is no benefit, youre just clearly ignorant to what they are. Why do you keep speaking on things you are ignorant to?
There are a considerable amount of variables that can result in different outcomes. Grains are not a "one size fits all" approach to spawn. I believe it's PGT that does a grain test and takes a scientific approach to it, so if you're looking for the top tier grain, it might be worth checking out!
What??? Yeah a good portion of this community ONLY USE POPCORN because it's a "weak grain". Anyone reading this don't believe this. Popcorn is a great grain and highly recommended by a lot of expert cultivators.
why popcorn? have you tried regular whole corn sold for animal feed? Why do you sterilize twice? I have canned for years, watched hundreds of canning, mycology and sterlizing video. YOu are the ONLY person i have ever seen putting lids together upside down. Does not make any sense at all. os many thing wrong in this that do not jve with normal sterile procedure OR mushroom growing. Why is it called "drippy" ?
Seems like you need to do more research within mycology! All of these processes are valid, you sterilize once, you cook the corn the first time. Upside down lids help with air exchange versus having modified lids. Edit: it’s called drippy because it’s supposed to be a bit more on the wet side versus dry. Hence, drippy corn syrup tek aka drippy corn
@@JSammys Yes i am in the process of learning an dnot trying to be a dickhead. I thought you may be using the pressure cooker to cook the corn first, but was not totally certain. BUt the lid thing i have never seen and now that you mention it does seem easier than punch pr drillig holes and putting vents on the lids.
I suspect doing the corn in one go would work with more time. you just might not be able to do the verm bottom layer. the inverted lids are to allow pressure to escape and not crack the jar. very common in recent years so you don't need micropore tape or special lids
I can’t believe someone said it’s weak. It is the best grain I have ever used for me. Very fast colonization and huge pin sets and huge mushroom flushes. Thanks for the killer video.
who said it was weak? This is by far the best grain tek I have ever used. Thats crazy!
I know @Stunnin21 (the originator of Drippy Corn), and Ive been doing his Drippy corn procedure for about 3yrs now. Ive seen several "Drippy Corn" recipes, and this is as close to the real procedure as Ive seen here on TH-cam.
A couple notations Id like to add for you and your subscribers.
1) @Stunnin21 and I decided 2.5hrs is a better run time than 90min. It does take an extra hour, but significantly reduces tam rate. Mine is virtually zero, its absolutely worth the extra hour, and will not burst your kernels.
2) 4lbs of popcorn yields enough for eight quart jars. It is highly beneficial to only fill the jars to about 1/2" to 1" below the curve of the jar neck. The "headspace" allows for more air in the jars and for better FAE, which aids in colonization and will hasten your rate of colonization.
3) 1/4c of corn syrup is what is added for a 4lb batch (which makes 8 quarts of hydrated kernels). However, it is not necessary to use corn syrup. It is advantageous to employ what ever glucose source you are also utilizing in your LC and agar. It is beneficial to keep that sugar the same across all mediums, as you are "training" the mycelium what to eat, and there will be no adaptation phase to a new source for the mycelium. This also helps keep contamination rates low, aiding the fungi with an opportunity to outpace any potential contaminants. For instance I use raw unprocessed sugar (Turbinado sugar) in my version of Drippy Corn, as it is my glucose source in both my LC and agar. Feel free to use whatever sugar source you like: ELME (Extra Light Malt Extract), sorghum syrup, molasses, honey, et al.
4) Ive found this method can also be applied to deer corn (which is substantially less expensive), as opposed to popcorn. Theres only one change to the procedure if youre using deer corn, which is the forced hydration phase. Instead of doing a 20min PC run, just let it build pressure till it hits 15psi, then immediately kill the heat and let depressurize as normal. It still gets its hydration, but if you run it the 20min many kernels will burst (because these deer corn kernels are open ended, unlike popcorn).
5) A bit of info on the hydration phase you and your viewers may be unaware of. The forced hydration phase exposes its endospores, which makes the endospores substantially easier to kill in the subsequent sterilization phase, which also helps to lower your rate of contamination.
6) Also, the vermiculite is missing from your version of this recipe. The grains can just sit in the strainer for 20min, and theyre ready to jar. No need to waste paper towels or sit out on a sheet to dry. Simply add enough vermiculite to the bottom of your jars to make a thin layer before adding the corn to the jars for sterilization. The purpose for the vermiculite is to absorb any excess moisture from the grains, but also keeping that moisture local and readily available for the colonizing mycelium to take full advantage of, slightly hastening the colonization process. We chose vermiculite due to it being non-nutritional additive and therefore highly resistant to contamination.
Hope this info helps out, I enjoyed watching your video. You have earned a sub from old man
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Came back to write Stunnin21s name down for when I mention this tek 😉
@@ZombieSnax42069 🤍
Thank you an everyone else for the tips and advice! I did 1/2 cup corn syrup for an 8lb batch and after final sterilization the kernels are not popped but look surprisingly dark (brown/golden brown). I’m guessing it’s the sugar caramelizing but am curious if that’s normal/desired or if I messed up something?
@@ZombieSnax42069 appreciate you doing this
@@matthewcastanette6053 you should be fine, they do darken a lil bit. I wish we had a way to show pics here in the comments, so I could look and see what youre talking about.
Word, Been hearing all the buzz about how awsome drippy corn is and this is the first video Ive seen on how to actually make it .Thank you.
No lie I had this idea like 5 days ago but with honey in the grain water as it soaked ... I had the exact idea as to the mycelium transfering easier to something soaked in a tiny amount of the sugars it had been living in... And so I soaked a bucket of rye and a bucket of wbs and put honey in each. Like 3 maybe 4 grams in both 3 gallon buckets 1/3 to hal way full of grains. Soaked. Boiled. Dried for 5 hours or so (humid af where I'm from, drying grains can be a pain), jarred and pressure cooker for 45 min. I wait until jars are down to roomtemp for 2 or so hours then hit all 16 jars with a liquid culture and I have healthy growth established under every injection port after 3 and a half days. I'm impressed. Now the funniest part is I had never heard of this Tek until later that same night when a PGT video about 2 weeks old popped up in drippy corn. 😂 I couldn't believe it cause I thought I was doing something innovative. I can happily say it works with any grains and honey water too.
@@lukeblizzard5909thanks for sharing. I am just starting out. I inoculated 2 5 lb all in one grow bags and then 3 mix grain jars and today i’m going to inoculate 3 bags of uncle ben’s and make some jars of popcorn spawn but wanted to try the drippy corn method since it makes sense it would help colonize the mycelium even quicker. I’m eager to get to the harvest as i’m intending these for personal medicinal use.
Thank you! First video I've seen on drippy corn.
No problem! I plan on having videos up once a week so stay tuned
@MidnightMycology been waiting for them weekly uploads😢
@@x1handedbills I severely underestimated my ability to maintain a channel😅 I don't want to become another channel that has 500 videos going over common knowledge stuff. Based on the "How to make substrate" video, it seems more appropriate to make videos surrounding the harder to find topics. Also, I see you in Mycophilia chat ;)
@MidnightMycology my Lil home away from home haha. Might seem boring and over saturated to make the simple videos. But all the more incite from all angles is a good thing.
Even the route I decided to take for popcorn seems great👍 my own Lil method. Maybe my Lil inputs could help. Never know. Your video got me using corn to an extent. So even you have helped others of a already known topic. Don't give up ha
You can check the Mycophilia general chat right now for a good chance to see what topic the next videos will be :) I won't disclose the alias, but you should get the idea
Great video, first thing that comes up when you search drippy corn, excited to give this a try, best of luck with your channel and keep the content coming!
Glad you enjoyed the vid!
Some one on the bottom post said it’s weak grain choice. But hey whitebeard that’s a very smart truck with putting vermiculite on bottom of jars. I just watched ur new video on you tube. Thanks
So it looked like those kernals were still mighty hydrated after sitting on a tray for 20 mins.
Would you say this is still a good moisture content for colonization?
I think back to PGTs or SlightlyFerals tek on grain prep and they both allowed the grain to dry on a tray for hours until only a slight amount of moisture was still present on the exterior of the grains.
Has this tek shown in your vid worked well for you? Does it seem that the "more on the moist side" grains still serve well for colonization?
Please let me know and props for making a drippy corn tek vid!
Of course! I have used this tek with both mason jars and spawn bags, and no excess moisture has presented itself in either. When I roll the mason jars, they still move and sound as if they are relatively dry, no clumping, and no pools of water at the bottom.
My hypothesis is: because popcorn kernels are on the larger side of grains, the 20 minute pressure cook doesn't fully saturate them and whatever water is remaining on the kernels surface eventually gets absorbed. So if anything, they are still capable of holding more moisture (which is prime for L.C. and MSS syringes).
I will be doing another video soon of the grain being inoculated to test the colonization rate. From what I've experienced so far, it takes about 3 weeks (with a break and shake at the 2nd) for absolute coverage... However, the proof is in the pudding so stay tuned 🥳
@@MidnightMycology Excellent to know. Thanks for replying!
Does it matter if the popcorn is buttered or salted? I want to do this but i can onlt find salted and buttered popcorn
Hello hive. Do you think using the drippy water (after cooking grains) as a liquid culture would be super beneficial?
Stumbled across your comment and I’m wondering the same thing. Cuz i know that you can make some solid LC with 300g water and 15g light corn syrup. Maybe the nutrients in the corn water would also help?
I've cooked up a batch waiting for results. 🍄❤️
Great video, How long can you store them for? And when storeing what lid and how do you keep the lid on?
What’s the reason behind adding the corn syrup? Doesn’t it caramelize? 🤔
More sugar.
@FAQU2 is right, but for more context, the corn syrup acts as a catalyst to the mycelium. It's essentially giving the myc. a "sugar rush" and boosts the growth, colonizing the grains faster than without sugar
How much is it faster? @@MidnightMycology
have you tried adding some vermeculite on the bottom of the jars to help maintain the moisture?
Do not use additives of any kind. They make contamination more likely and have zero benefits.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter you couldnt be more wrong. Vermiculite is actually part of the Drippy Corn tek, and it does the exact opposite of what you claim it does. Vermiculite has multiple benefits, actually reduces contaminants, and is highly resistant to contamination on its own because it has no nutritional profile.
I dont know where you got your misinformation from, but you should definitely stop spreading it.
24 hours to let grains fully rehydrate after pressure cooking ? To see if it is over hydrated or could u do it earlier
Absolutely no need. The idea that grains had to be soaked is largely a myth that has been found to have no benefit.
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Does the light Karo you use have the vanilla in it
No. Atleast the one I use isn't, I just use regular Ole Karo,peptone bacteriological and a dash of gypsum. Or honey is an excellent choice aswell 👌
@@waccamawscout5566 I have used the vanilla Karo with no problems
Thank you for making this video. It’s exactly the same products i had and you made it super easy to follow and answered the questions a newbie like myself would have. I’m so excited to get these babies inoculated with my penis envy lc. 😊😊😊
Wait till they find out about canned corn tek✨
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I added a bit of sugar in the raw during rehydration. It seems to have worked.
I'm not quite clear on what you mean, did you add sugar after PCing the grain to hydate, and not during? I'm curious of your approach
Additives aren't needed and have no benefits. Including the corn syrup used in the video.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter here you are again spouting nonsense. Of course there is a benefit, or we wouldnt be using them. Just because YOU dont understand, doesnt mean there is no benefit, youre just clearly ignorant to what they are.
Why do you keep speaking on things you are ignorant to?
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Hey johnnyyyy! Great time to see the video, I got a few video ideas that I'm going to be working on soon. Stay tuned!
Looks like “sin “ did that arm piece
There's no need to use gloves for this step, since the grain will be sterilized anyway. Also, don't use any additives. They have zero benefits.
Bruh, just shut up already. You clearly dont know what youre talking about.
Why are the ignorant ones always so sure of themselves?
Weak grain choice. Ran it before..
What would you use?
There are a considerable amount of variables that can result in different outcomes. Grains are not a "one size fits all" approach to spawn. I believe it's PGT that does a grain test and takes a scientific approach to it, so if you're looking for the top tier grain, it might be worth checking out!
I love using popcorn and coffee in my jars. My cubes love it and zoom. After i hydrate my popcorn i save the popcorn coffee water to use in my agar. 👍
What??? Yeah a good portion of this community ONLY USE POPCORN because it's a "weak grain". Anyone reading this don't believe this. Popcorn is a great grain and highly recommended by a lot of expert cultivators.
Best grain is what you have easy access to and feel the most comfortable preparing. Popcorn also breaks up so much easier than a lot of the others.
why popcorn? have you tried regular whole corn sold for animal feed? Why do you sterilize twice? I have canned for years, watched hundreds of canning, mycology and sterlizing video. YOu are the ONLY person i have ever seen putting lids together upside down. Does not make any sense at all. os many thing wrong in this that do not jve with normal sterile procedure OR mushroom growing. Why is it called "drippy" ?
Seems like you need to do more research within mycology! All of these processes are valid, you sterilize once, you cook the corn the first time. Upside down lids help with air exchange versus having modified lids.
Edit: it’s called drippy because it’s supposed to be a bit more on the wet side versus dry. Hence, drippy corn syrup tek aka drippy corn
@@JSammys Yes i am in the process of learning an dnot trying to be a dickhead. I thought you may be using the pressure cooker to cook the corn first, but was not totally certain. BUt the lid thing i have never seen and now that you mention it does seem easier than punch pr drillig holes and putting vents on the lids.
@@user-xb1ht4py2v yes of course! I didn’t take it in an offensive way just an educational one!
@@JSammys many people do brown rice twice or in one step. Look up no soak no simmer tek. I suspect corn can be done in one step with more time.
I suspect doing the corn in one go would work with more time. you just might not be able to do the verm bottom layer. the inverted lids are to allow pressure to escape and not crack the jar. very common in recent years so you don't need micropore tape or special lids