Metroid: Other M - Ridley [HD]
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- Epic boss battle with Ridley. The actual battle starts around 4:30 or so. I was kinda careless so I almost died..lol but he's actually kinda easy with sense move.
Game - Metroid: Other M
Console - Wii
Recorded with Hauppauge HD PVR, Encoded in Sony Vegas 9.0
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You know, after everything she had been through, I actually expected Samus to react with rage than stand in fear of seeing Ridley.
Well lets think for a second, it mainly has to do with Ridleys form
Yes Samus has Faught Ridley many times and many forms and Samus has not showed no means of emotion in past fights. Buts lets stop and think. This takes place after Super Metroid, Zebes is destroyed as well as the Space Pirates, Mother Brain, and any last trace of Ridley.
Put yourself in Samus's shoes. You finally defeat your arch enemy that killed your parents (or at least involved with their deaths). You finally think he's dead once and for all. The space pirates are not there to fix him, no phazon, NOTHING NOT A SINGLE INDICATION. This is even stated her relief in the opening cutscene. Then Out of nowhere he's back IN HIS ORIGINAL STATE. NO WIRES, NO EXPLANATION (at that very moment), and no space pirates to indicate any means of revival. How would you feel to have the thing you thought died when Zebes exploded be floating there right in front of you Intact and you don't know why.
I am pretty sure you'd confused and scared to see what is LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
Evan Bernardi She kills Ridley in the first Metroid, and Super Metroid...Even in the prime trilogy. This happened in the manga, and was better than this. Also, Samus is a badass girl, not this.
TheBaniprey Like it or not, this character in Other M is Samus. Accept it.
TheSorrel
No shit sherlock. Still, i don't like her in this game.
EVEN IN THE BEGINING OF THE GAME she admits feeling relieved she vanquished her enemy for good in the explosion of planet zebes.
basic Psychology
So thaaaaats where the Smash Bros stage came from.
Flinton Steel Yup.
Don’t forget, it was also in dead or alive dimensions.
Sakurai fixed samus when she went all zero suit on ridley and was like BITCH YOU KILLED MY PARENTS PREPARE TO DIE!!!!
WHAT IS THE CODE
It was a nightmare seeing him there but it worst seeing Ridley as a playable character my true nightmare came true
4:38 he has no style
He has no grace
When you see this dragon
You better brace
Don't forget that Anthony got a big balls for trying to fight Ridley xd
I understood the reference
I love Anthony!
Her reaction would have made so much more sense if this fight happened BEFORE the first Metroid game, while Samus was still a Federation soldier. We would have eaten this scene up and felt nothing but sympathy for Samus breaking down upon her FIRST confrontation with the monster who ate her parents. It would have made her two future victories against him all the sweeter for how far she would go from where she started.
that would make a lot more sense. but in another case, it could also be because she flat out blew up a planet with him still on it, so she thought he was long dead, but then he's back so she's surprised again. So it's more of a combination of, "What the hell, you should be dead!" and all the stuff he did to her in the past.
@@Konh-Minh Even so, a different reaction would have made sense. She is breaking down like it's her first time seeing him since she was a kid and he killed her parents.
I'm not saying she wouldn't have reacted, but maybe not paralyzed with fear. Shocked, of course, confused, absolutely, but scared like if she'd never seen him before, I don't think so. Scared because he's not dead, I can understand, but she straight up had a breakdown here because of it.
That's true, but even still, she killed Ridley, she blew him up with Missiles and the combination of Wave beam, Ice Beam and Plasma Beam, she burned him, electrified him, freeze him, Shreddered him with explosions and so on.
She finally killed him.
I would have acted the same when I found out that someone I killed stood in front of me alive, not knowimg if it is a clone or a vengeful spirit or similar
Hard disagree. Last time was Super Metroid, where Samus was said to have completely snapped and destroyed Ridley so thoroughly that there was no hope of him surviving or coming back afterwards.
She probably had eliminated him from her mind, believing she finally got closure because he was finally dead. You can imagine the reaction you'd have if you breathed a sigh of relief after the end of years of suffering, only to find out it's not over yet.
@@Trikovioz My guy, that's not how PTSD works. Samus has moved on, yet Ridley is still alive, so OF COURSE she would react this way! Cargoshots put this well - soldiers who have faced actual threats still have breakdowns when they hear or see anything that reminds them of the sights and sounds and/or events that traumatized them. Even if they had fully realized that they would never go through the stress of experiencing those things again, they STILL can't handle it.
Ridley got destoyed and blown to pieces in Super Metroid along with Zebes.
The reason Samus is so shocked here is that 1. because she didn't expect Ridley to come back and 2. because Ridley's reappearance confirms that _she_ herself is what allowed Ridley to be cloned (Just like the Metroids). She saw him grow up throughout the game and only now realises that it IS Ridley - the murderer of her family and her worst nightmare unexpectedly reborn.
As such, her reaction is pretty understandable to me
Check the timeline. Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Metroid: Samus Returns, Super Metroid, Other M. 6 Ridley fights without any kind of reaction... Then this character betrayal. There's no excuse.
It's at the end of the timeline though. She has faced him many times up until this point so I don't think what you said works at all honestly.
Y'all act like she didn't overcome it all those times. It's a possible explanation
Raven Link samus would understandably shocked to see the dude who got vaporized along with a planet return, but she has fought Ridley in much more stressful situations, mainly the first 2 Meta Ridley fights, especially while falling down a bottomless pit with him in the second one
Let me tell you why she reacted this way - BAD WRITING
I just loved how she said Ridley's name all terrified. Anyone who read the manga knows how much Ridley screwed with her.
"Perhaps I even ate your mama so that my cells could live, hmm? Is she here... or *here*?
What an asshole.
Yes, he did, but I thought she relinquished that fear when she kicked his ass. It's still traumatizing, but at this point, it would've been less crippling.
Samus: Its finally over...I did it..!!
*Ridley update in Smash*
Samus: *REALLY???!!!*
Ridley is brutal and I love it. That first scene really shows his intelligence, he knows samus is afraid, and toys with her to watch her suffer, instead of just striking her down right then and there
That was a clone of Ridley It's debatable if it has its original memories so so did it recognize samus
But Samus SHOULDNT be afraid, why would she be afraid?
@@Kuzo53 ptsd ridley sudden revival triggered it she finally put the past behind till now so she was scared again like when she was a little girl
@@cobeoe WHY WOULD SHE BECOME A LITTLE GIRL AGAIN FACING AN ENEMY SHES KILLED LIKE 6 TIMES AT THIS POINT
@@Kuzo53 because he's supposed to be dead for the final time & samus was supposed to have peace
Ridley: Oh Samus, you're in trouble again! But this time, Pikachu isn't here to save you.
Edit: Can't believe I got 128 likes lmao
Lion King lmao
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3:08
I think that is the first time Ridley's name has been said ever.
the second time
The Beginning: Hold Up!!!!!!!
Let's forget the cutscene for a second and just appreciate the amazing boss battle, shall we? I love this boss so much...
Agreed. Ridley is such an interesting creature, and pretty much one of the reasons I enjoy this game.
I don’t really like the way Ridley looks in this game, but the gameplay does look fun.
Man, THE GODDAMIT SOUNDTRACK OF HIS BATTLE IS 100000000/10
My first time fighting Ridley I didn’t know what to do crazy fight and my official first battle against him. Which first lit my fear and rage against this formidable evil foe and I’m hell bent on killing him for good.
2:44 I’ll admit. That is an awesome shot of Ridley.
I think a lot of people are missing something here.
This. This was the moment where it fully dawned on Samus that there is NO GETTING RID OF RIDLEY. They may have fought before, but this was when Samus realized that this nightmare from her past WOULD NEVER STOP HAUNTING HER.
In video games, recurring villains are the norm. No matter how many times you drop Bowser into lava, destroy one of Eggman’s mechanical machinations, or pump Wild Dog full of lead, they’re bound to come back swinging. We often take these recurrences with a grain of salt, but from a real-life standpoint, they’d actually be pretty terrifying.
Imagine a guy causes a shit ton of trouble for you and your family. You shoot him in the head. Done and done right?
WRONG!
Same guy comes back stronger than ever, and even more determined to give you and your loved ones a bad time. Okay, no biggie. You shoot him again, MULTIPLE TIMES, and leave the carcass. All said and done?
NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Guy comes back again, and now he’s REALLY pissed. This time you shoot him in the head, tear the rest of his body apart with bullets, douse what’s left in gasoline, light a match, and walk away like a badass as whatever edifice the two of you had your climactic showdown in burns to the ground behind you. All’s well that ends we-
NOPE!
Guess who’s baaaaaaaaaack? At this point, you’re on your knees in shock. This is our life now. A never-ending battle with a guy out for your blood. If that isn’t a tough pill to swallow, I don’t know WHAT is.
This really put things in perspective ya know? That actually is horrifying! Bowser anx eggman are one thing but ridley is another thing entirely!
all is truth
LuckyRabbit33 damn that was pretty well said tbh lol
@@llamzrt it very well can be but it is one that fits very well all things considered. This game had a lot of potential. Honestly if you fix the dynamic between Adam and Samus and a more Metroid fusion esc approach or Metroid prime thing and fix the dialogue to make it a little less soap opera this game would be pretty damn solid. But the dialogue was scewed because the guy who directed it didn't speak or know much about the English language so the game felt very very japanese and not in any of the good ways. The gameplay is a whole other story though that would be way harder to fix
This makes sense considering RIDLEY WAS DEAD. D.E.A.D. I get that this cutscene should have happened earlier, but still, you gotta give Nintendo some credit.
The gameplay was awesome. If only they hadn't completely destroyed Samus's character
You mean, by making her interesting?
kuribo04 Saying "THE BABY, THE BABY, THE BABY, THE BABY!" is not interesting.
Klik'ssi Ikub'ra Lol stop with that weird meme. She talks so little about the baby I forgot it existed.
kuribo04 Replay it and make a counter of how many times she says it
Klik'ssi Ikub'ra She talks about it at the beginning, obviously, because that scene is set right after SM, she mentions it later when they discover the cyborg pirates, but that monologue is NOT about the baby, she mentions it when she sees a Metroid victim, obvious that that event would come to.mind, she REMEMBERS it when she sees another baby Metroid, this time she decides it's better to kill it though, Samus becomes more intelligent and mature through the Super Metroid experience, this also subverts what people would expect her to do.
Uhhh...that's it.
I know this scene gets a lot of hate, and a lot of it is totally justified. I mean, Samus as we know her wouldn't be so timid and cower, she's relatively trigger happy in other Metroid cutscenes, but let's appreciate the fact that this cutscene actually acknowledged the manga. As far as I know, this is the first and only time we ever got a glimpse into Samus' past in-game. I mean, I'm sure all of us have read the manga and know that Ridley killed her parents, but this is the first time it is touched upon in a game. If a new Metroid game is coming soon, I hope that we get to see more of Samus' past elaborated on, just as long as they don't totally change her personality in the process.
QuirkyKirkPlays wait there’s a Metroid manga
@@entruh4520 Yes. And just let me quote Ridley from it:
"Thanks to you, the Afloraltite exploded and I was also engulfed in flames! Can you imagine how I managed to survive?! Shall I tell you what I had to feed my injured body hmm?! FLESH!! I somehow survived by consuming the bodies of your kind, tossed every which way. Foul, foul human flesh. You don’t know, maybe I even ate your “mama” so that my cells can live, hm? Is she here, or here? AT LEAST PAY YOUR RESPECTS!”
"first time its touched upon." that doesnt change the fact it makes no sense.
You got your wish and then some, 4 years later
"Samus as we know her wouldn't be so timid and cower"
Then you don't know Samus.
You are tearing me apart Ridley!
As a writer I feel that strongly..This game has great potential..
Please don't use that as inspiration, other than what to delete if it's anything like this.
It does have great potential
I always thought Samus's reaction made sense from a story point of view. Ridley's been explained as being able to regenerate by eating things, so his returning appearances could've be handwaved by Samus as merely defeating him, not destroying him completely- he's never been the main target or objective, just an obstacle. So perhaps she just didn't waste more time than she needed (or was even aware of his method of regeneration at all). However, this takes place after Super Metroid, where, even if she didn't finish the job, the whole 'exploding planet' most logically SHOULD have. And Super Metroid leaves none of that to the imagination- the ending very clearly shows her escaping an exploding Zebes.
So you've got this giant fire-breathing spear-tailed monster that murdered your mother right in front of you as a child (and even delightfully reminds you about that, apparently, in one of the sources). It tries to kill you multiple times, so you left it rotting on a planet that's in a million chunks in space right now- try to regenerate from that! There's no way it can possibly come back from that. Only, it does exactly that. On top of the sheer horror of realizing an EXPLODING PLANET will not erase this thing from your life, you also realize that there's another person standing near you who is both less experienced with this and more vulnerable than you. You don't even have the advantage of flying this one solo- there's someone near you that very well can die right now. (As far as Samus is concerned, last time she was in a room with this monster and another human being, the latter wound up brutalized. Fun.)
Most would be panicking at that point, especially if they're the kind of decent human that's loathe to lose an ally- even if he's the kind of idiot that loses track of his ammo and walks right towards the very thing Samus pleadingly tells him not to mess with. (That has a lengthy record of slaughtering humans for giggles.)
I don't think this shows Samus as being weak- weak wouldn't be hopping around blasting away at Ridley the moment she comes back to her senses. (In this case, post-cutscene Samus.) I think it just shows her as human; one that realizes consequences can be much more dire the moment someone more vulnerable than her is involved, which is pretty much everyone Not-Samus as far as she is concerned. She's got the power armor of a lost civilization that can be optimized time and time again and outfitted with superhuman abilities and an unimaginable arsenal. These guys lack all of that, and have weapons that fail at extremely inconvenient times. That's not something you want on your mind when you're going on the xth round with what's probably your mortal enemy (that you just discovered really sucks at that 'mortal' part.)
I'm not saying this is Samus's finest moment, but when you try to remember she's a lone person wandering the blankness of space, only stopping to occasionally deal with the villains that murdered her entire birthplace colony, who keep setting up shop in the abandoned places of her all-but-disappeared adoptive family- it's not that far-fetched to imagine she might lost her %@#$ for a couple of moments. The history of dealing with a terror before isn't necessarily an extended invitation for it to keep popping back up in your life, especially when you dealt with it the last time by obliterating the very planet it was on.
Still doesnt excuse the multiple other times she killed him before SM. She shouldn't be surprised at this point. Anger would be more appropriate imo
Omegeddon Imagine that your greatest enemy was blown to bits, and the planet they were on exploded to smaller bits as well, only to find them alive and till kicking.
Mario Tomic
I'd be pretty pissed
Omegeddon Can't deny that
Mario Tomic I'd be pissed too, but I would also be surprised as well. I mean, after Super Metroid, even I thought Ridley was done for after the planet exploded, but the fact that he actually regenerated from that...jesus, he's just as worse as Majin Buu when he regenerated after destroying countless planets!
Okay, for those who don't understand, here's the deal about Samus' reaction to Ridley. There's pleanty of reasonable explanations why she react this way:
1- Ridley himself. Yes, Ridley has come back time and time again to fight Samus. But all those times she fought him, Ridley wasn't completely dead. He managed to recover and come back later to fight Samus, whether by cybernetic enhancements, through Phazon, or natural recovery. However, In Super Metroid, Samus did end up killing him, and even if she didn't, the exploding planet Zebes did, so she expected that he would be dead for good, not expecting him to come back after that.
2- Samus was still under PTSD. Sure, she may have gone over it after the fights with Ridley before, and I'm sure she felt that way the first time she fought Ridley on Zebes. However, the events of Super Metroid, when she fought the Mother Brain, the Baby Metroid saved her and sacrificed itself while do so, making her feel the loss of someone who saved her, like her parents, reminding her of that moment, thus the PTSD. She was completely convinced that the metroids, the space pirates, mother brain and even Ridley were finally dead, but still suffering the effects of PTSD and seeing Ridley again triggered that her fear as she never expected him to come back when Ridley's body was blown up along with Zebes.
3- Knowing another innocent bystander was beside her, that being Anthony, who had no experience fighting Ridley like Samus does, Samus panicked as she didn't want anybody else to die. It reminded her how she lost her parents, as well as the baby metroid, and she didn't want Anthony to suffer the same fate. When Anthony fell off the platform, Samus snapped out of it and fought Ridley as hard as she could, despite her inevitablity of saving Anthony.
I'll say this, Yes, the game has major flaws, Yes, I think Adam's restricting Samus using her equipment is annoying and even stupid, Yes, I know her monologuing of the baby and the bad voice acting is annoying, but aside from that, I think they made Samus more human than she ever was in the previous games, and not just some killing machine. She's a badass bounty hunter, yes, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings.
That's my opinion of this moment and of this game.
I know how Samus felt. Since the reunion with an enemy who murdered her parents right in front of her since childhood, it really broke and traumatized her.
Ridley sounds like a broken PlayStation.
8:36
@@adammalkovich187 Authorise my fucking guns already.
No, playstation 2 intro
When you were sure that after countless encounters, your nemesis died for real....
Then hippity hoppity, the Federation clones him.
And give us a good fight plus a REALLY GOOD THEME
Most of the people forget that and just say "why samus is scared? She is not like that, it ruined the character"
Uhh well, the fact that he killed your parents and you know about it, then you fought him several times and then you think its finally dead, that means your nightmare is dead, great, BUT then like Bird Magic HEY, THE NIGHTMARE ITS ALIVE AND IS COMING FOR YA, also the plus that the bottle ship reminds her Zebbes and also the GF there with OG’s companions and your general that you considered a Father figure who constantly remindes you that the PURPLE FIRE PLASMA BREATHING PTERODACTYL PIRATE killed your parents and basically started your life of fighting horrible creatures……if that's not a good reason to be scared and confused through this and also the entire game is not enough then IDK what it would be.
Sometimes I think people didn't understood Metroid Other M story, of course there are some things that are rubbish here and there but again, its not that bad if you know the lore, also, this is the game where we can see a lot of Samus real feelings, inside of that armor and colourless personality there's just a girl who's life was changed for bad.
Oh yeah and forgot that……"she didn't had to act like that, I will be annoyed and shoot him on the face, Samus is a badass"
……ehh…sh…she later comes back from her ptsd and fights like no one on that universe…act and having a first reaction doesn't mean that it will stay like that.
@@dngames1001 you realize your argument makes literally 0 sense right?
@@BigHailFan well ok, but tell me why at least 😅, I'm not here for fighting, just using my logic to explain the game’s lore.
Again tell me why, I read it again and still up for my comment.
@@dngames1001 *sighs* sorry, you wouldnt believe the stuff ive seen people say to defend this scene.
1. Samus already overcame her PTSD in the canon manga that takes place before Zero Mission.
2. Samus has enountered and beaten Ridly 5 - 7 times now (depending on if you count mecha ridley and the two encounters with Ridley in Prime 3.)
3. Ridley has been completely destroyed before. He was literally vaporized in Prime 3.
4. Samus has shown us her emotions before. Even during heart ache, she stands strong. Fusion, Prime 2, and Prime 3 all showed this (especially when she herself had to kill her own former allies.)
This scene, no matter how you look at it, just makes literally zero sense. Heck, even when Samus encountered a mutated and more horrifying Neo Ridley in Fusion, she doesn't back down.
the reaction when she faced ridley would have made sense when it was her first encounter with him after he destroyed her colony, but at this point, she defeated him like 5 to 6 times already.
Joey Joe Joe well I mean she did blow up a planet with him on it. it’s just like this:oh hey look it’s bowser, now he’s in lava. he’s now burned to a crisp! oh wait shit he’s back.
it’s like how Ridley will always follow her wherever she goes
@@kirbkerbeboi8737 she expecyed him to be gone for good but the ferderation gotta federation and clone him for the military industrial complex
But she thought he was dead. I don't think I need to explain to you that that reaction was perfectly reasonable.
@@littlemoth4956 Did she not think he was dead the first 20 times she killed him?
Wrong. The Prime games aren't canon.
Anthony trash talking Ridley feels so hilarious. I love this guy! 😂
Okay?
@@pedrocampos1787 "okay" yourself! He's right!
Dont you know how to treat a lady
Man you got no style
To be honest, after having him reduced to bits and then blown up along with a planet, I'd probably revert to PTSD mode if the very thing that caused my childhood trauma came back after a scenario that DEFINITELY should have killed him FOR GOOD.
Like a sudden panicked rush of thoughts going "No, he should be dead! Absolutely, completely dead! Will nothing I do ever get rid of him...?! Is... is all of this... pointless...?! Is anything I do ever going to end this...?!"
Then, if I manage to get my composure back, I'd kick his ass again because holy fuck I am SO DONE WITH HIS SHIT.
yeah but considering it's samus, I figured it would take about 5 or 10 seconds for her to regain composure
@@GamingWithCalvin1 not to mention ridleys been blown to bits like 1000 times
@@silverdirtgamer3390 yep.
so we ignoring the other games were she beats him?
I'm not ignoring it, it's just... almost nothing was ever as grand as the Super Metroid planet explosion. That, if anything, should have killed him for good.
Metroid (Zero Mission)? Shot down. Metroid Prime? Shot down again. Multiple times. Metroid 2 (Samus Returns)? Shot down, again. Baby drained him a bit, but he didn't die.
Super Metroid? Shot down, then seemingly subsequently caught in a self-destruct explosion that literally destroys Planet Zebes completely. And every other Ridley appearance from then on has been a clone or imitation. Unless the games say otherwise, the original Ridley is truly dead.
But even with that, Samus still encounters Ridley, after an explosion that, unless he could manage to flee the planet in time, would completely destroy every cell in his body. Who wouldn't freak out, even just a little?
The reason why Samus froze with fear when she saw Ridley again is this
How would you feel that someone who traumatized you at a young age is dead for good comes back, that fear, you would be frozen in shock and fear even tho you overcame that fear before
*_"HEY! HEY PUNK!! DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO TREAT A LADY?!?!"_*
For those complaining about Samus and her freaking out when confronted by Ridley, there are three things to consider:
1. Ridley killed her mother in front of her in the Zero Mission manga. The ads for this game made it clear that remains canon.
2. The only constant in her life, the only person that she continues to see is Ridley. At this point, breaking down makes sense when she has fought him in Metroid, the Prime series, Super Metroid, and he just keeps coming back. Even the Metroids are gone, but Ridley will always haunt her.
3. Samus had a very loose concept of character prior to this game (part of the charm of a silent protagonist is the ability to project onto them). This is the only game where she had an actual character. Whether the depiction is good or bad is up to the audience, but claiming that its out of character for her makes no sense when she's basically been an audience surrogate since her inception.
Just a thought.
+Ksawarrior The problem is she didn't even flinch when she found him in the Prime series (the first time he resurrected). Why would she start losing her shit after the 5th (I think) time? Being scared, tired, or depressed I would understand, but surprised?
+U.N.Owen Because he was apparently dead for good, with no stuff for the pirate to bring him back from the deads another time.
It would be like killing your Nemesis multiple time, destroying the stuff that made him come back. And STILL after all of that facing him AGAIN.
*****
The first time she was probably surprised but wasn't freaked out because she still fought it earlier and was thus able to quickly dispose of it. Heck, maybe she was even suspecting something like that.
But after she knew the protocol that allowed Ridley to be revive, she knew she could face him multiples times, like a never ending fight.
But once Zebes was FINALLY destroyed and with it EVERY possibility that she come back the usual way, she probably let her guard down about it and was thinking "that sucker is finally dead".
AND boom, back again.
Yeah I'd be pretty freaked out personatly after seeing again the ennemy that was apparently finally destroyed for GOOD.
+Ksawarrior No, there's nothing to consider. She's faced him like 8 times by this point. She's never pussed out like this. Her character was a ruthless badass, and this totally betrays it.
Ross Parks
And your the kind of guy who like only THERE vision with out even thinking about the real character. :)
Samus is terrified here because she thought she killed him once and for good. At some point you can even hear her say "It can't be !".
Other M isn't a bad game but there should be like NO reason for Samus to act like she did around Ridley. She fought him in Metroid 1/Zero Mission, Super Metroid, and Metroid Prime 1 and 3 (Which all take place before Other M). Not to mention the times she's fought him in the Manga. Plus if she can fight hordes of Space Pirates, a Giant Lizard that shoots spikes from his stomach and a gigantic pulsating monstrous Brain then I'm sure she wouldn't be afraid of a freaking Dragon. C'mon Nintendo, just STOP OUTSOURCING. We haven't been playing Super Metroid for 20 years.
Didn't she kill him like 5 times already? That's not counting the way more horrifying bosses she's fought beforehand. She's kind of a wussy in this.
Chronologically, in the Metroid Universe, Other M happens before the Prime games. It's somewhere between Super Metroid and Fusion if I remember correctly.
What? Dude Other M is between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion. Prime is between Metroid 1 and 2 you silly man.
Way too late to add on that, but the prime series was made non canon, so we have metroid > samus returns > super metroid (where she thinks she got rid of ridley finally) and then Other M. PTSD is a bitch and might haunt you, when you least expect it.
Well this came after Super Metroid where she BLEW UP A PLANET WITH THIS GUY ON IT!!! And considering he killed her mother to see him still there alive would terrify anyone
Ah yes, the infamous "daddy save me" scene.
Poor Samus…
I’m Shocked That This Scene got a Lot of Backlash…and don’t see what is the Problem with this Sequence…
it makes sense for Samus to have PTSD at this Point because Seeing Ridley being Cloned Back from The Dead by a Bunch of Scientists jerks. After the Events of “Super Metroid” when Samus thought she Killed Ridley for Good This Time…
Plus Loved this Fight when i got to Experience This Game.
+ are We Gonna Talk about how Awesome but Yet Absolutely Terrifying This Shot of Ridley is at 2:47 ? This Appearance of Ridley has to be the Most Scariest and most Intimidating Encounter
I’ve Ever Seen Period…
O_O
Am I the only one who thinks that this battle is so much more epic than the finale?
Definetly. The fight with Quenn Metroid just...happens, with little to no build-up, unlike Ridley, who we've seen grow along the tension since the start, the fight with Melissa is putrid, she just...*dies* after one shot, a shot that Samus MISSES, leaving the Federation to finish Melissa of, all the while Phantoon just appears out of nowhere and is killed just as quickly as the Queen Metroid. Ridley is legit the only part of the villain ensenmble who actually EARNS his spot as one of the main antagonists. There's also the setting. Ridley appears from searing, molten metal like a demon straight from hell, his dark silhouete cast against the harsh red light of the boiler room, all the while epic orchaestral music blares in the background and blends with his demonic screeches as everything is covered in flames. Meanwhile the final bosses are all fought in borung, grey rooms, with no interwsting lighting or composition.
Looking back, gotta have respect for Anthony for standing up to Ridley when Samus was having her slightly uncharacteristic (at this point in her life, anyway) PTSD-induced panic attack.
Man has bigger balls than Adam ever could.
Danny K 2001
Adam ended up dying too save samus just as Anthony but out of the 2 i agree Anthony had more balls
Other M will forever be a good game to me
Yeah. Today i just realized why people are pissed off about it. It ruined her character.
WTF is wrong with you
@@J215J No it didn't.
It makes sense why Samus was so mortified when she saw Ridly. She had finally avenged her family and put the past behind her when she finished him the last time they fought. However, once she saw him literally come back from the dead through cloning, she got the realization that no matter how hard she tried, the ghosts of her past would always return to haunt her for the rest of her life, such is with people who have Post Tramatic. Or at least, that’s what I believe.
Samus is incredibly relatable in this cutscene, but this is coming from the same bounty hunter that fought this SAME immortal creature SEVERAL times without getting scared at all. So why is Samus randomly petrified with fear here when she was just fine in the previous battles? I have no idea.
Read the METROID manga and you will understand. But let me give you a summary and my opinion on why.
Ok so, Samus was born in a Human Colony on a mining Planet. Both her Father and Mother worked there, when she was 3 yrs old she has her first encounter with the scary Birdlike looking yet good Chozo alien race when they visited the colony. She befriends the oldest member of the party. Soon after they leave the colony is attacked by Zebezian Space Pirates with Ridley as the leader. As the pirates are mascaraing the colonists and raiding the colony, in the mist of chaos when looking for her parents Samus encounters Ridley and she tries to befriend him even when feeling scared of him (remember she is 3yrs old) Ridley rears to chomp her down, Samus' mother appears and Ridley fires at Samus' mom vaporizing her. Her father explodes himself within the command Pirate ship with the highly flammable mineral they stole, exploding the ship.
The Chozo returned and find Samus as the only survivor and they take her to Zebes. There she is genetically enhanced with their own DNA to survive on the planet and also trained her in combat to be the protector of the galaxy. The provide her with the Power Suit and afterwards she is prompted to Join the Galactic military. When she deflects as seen in the Flashbacks of this game, when she is given the Zero Mission to attack Mother Brain and the Space Pirates when she fights Ridley the games NEVER show her PTSD, though the manga addresses it. Also the other appearances of Ridley in the other games are never approached story wise cause the games were never given the narration for the story aside from intro. This is why people believe that Samus was a robotic cold b*tch that has no emotions and would kill anyone or anything in her way. When she spares the Larva Metroid in Metroid 2 it is first shown her passive and emotional attitude without words in the original Gameboy game, and in it Ridley never appears which to me was perfect and they ruined the Remake having a Meta Ridley appear, but still there was no approach to her attitude withing the game.
Super Metroid happens and Ridley is seen in the intro game, once again we cannot know her attitude story wise cause there is no in depth story interpretation like before. And finally when Samus finally kills him also we can't tell anything on the emotional depth of Samus and her deal with Ridley. Since OTHER M is right after SUPER METROID and before METROID FUSION, we then are given a counted story narrated by Samus, since her characterization and partial backstory in narration was approached on FUSION and on METROID 1 Remake ZERO MISSION. In OTHER M, instead of reading or creating it by us, they give Samus a characterization and voice and then the story is approached directly. So, to me when she sees and recognizes that Ridley was cloned and revived and in front of her, her psychological trauma comes again cause she believed she had finally avenged her family and the colony and seeing him is a shock, making her relive her shock, pain, and childhood trauma with all the horrors she saw, hence you see the image of her as a little 3 yrs old child cowering and crying. She can't believe it nor had suspected it.
This shows that Samus isn't a flawless heroine, nor perfect in anyway. She IS human, which is the turmoil she had in the manga when she was being trained and other Chozo criticized her emotions, and to me is fine cause a true hero HAS to have emotions and compassion. She is still a badass and kicks ass regardless.
Now I do have things I hate of her characterization in OTHER M:
1. Physically I hate that they made her a typical short defenseless fragile looking girl. The original specs of her said that without the armor Samus was a tall amazonian looking beauty of 6'1"
2. Samus with her armor is supposed to confuse people when she talks, making it seem that people that don't know her or about her to think/believe she is a Man, or a Male humanoid alien, or male cyborg.
3. I don't mind emotions at all, but they have made her too much into a crying emotional wreck, and if you don't play her in the cutscenes she seems completely inexperienced as a warrior or Bounty Hunter, which clashes with her Fear inducing presence and fame throughout the galaxy.
4. Her abilities in the cutscenes make her as good as the simple federation Military and their human made power suits, making her just as weak or talented, which is a contrast with her abilities not just on the games but also the power her genetics have and the Chozo Power Suit.
5. The power suit appears in OTHER M as a stupid magical attire, appearing from thin air. It is supposed to be a Techno Organic suit, it is symbiotically bonded to her, and when it is active it cannot be removed, much less stunned as the game showed with Ridley and later Adam. METROID FUSION she was knocked out and the Suit had to be surgically cut and removed from her getting altered and weakened. Its organic parts got infected with X Parasites in the FUSION game.
Sorry for the book long read and I hope that aside my point of view, that the info that I provided was of use to you...if you read it all LOL
Rant time, everybody!
As someone with PTSD, I know that it doesn't magically fix itself even if your abuser/space pirate is dead. It can come up at anytime; during a fight, during breakfast, etc. So to me, Samus breaking down here makes sense.
The problem is that other people don't know that.
This could've worked if prior to this, Samus gets a flashback or nightmare which leads to her breaking down. Hell, maybe she can be frustrated because he's dead, because bounty hunters are supposed to be strong. Then Adam could tell her that she's allowed to be vulnerable sometimes. She's allowed to be human. That way, it establishes that she's still very afraid of Ridley so gamers don't get confused.
Either that, or this: make it obvious that her breakdown is from shock. Instead of saying "Ridley...!?" She could go berserk and scream, "no, you're dead!! You're dead!!" All while firing shots that he easily dodges them. Then she feels truly helpless, and she flashes back to her childhood. Then she REALLY breaks down.
I dunno. Maybe my idea is still shit. But I think it's better than THIS.
She never gets PTSD flashbacks the previous times she fought Ridley.
VolunteerFireDepartment I was more so annoyed that ridley was back in Metroid prime 3
@@dancegregorydance6933 SHE HADN'T KILLED HIM BEFORE. SHE FINALLY KILLED HIM AND HIS REMAINS WERE OBLITERATED WHEN THE PLANET EXPLODED. THAT'S WHY IT ONLY HAPPENS HERE.
Jesus christ, people. Play the damn games. Yeesh.
While I did like the game, this cutscene indeed made no sense. Other M's really late in the chronology. Heck, the prime trilogy is one of the first in chronological order and when she saw Ridley there she just pointed her beam cannon at his face and started shooting. Why would she panic now?
I'd understand it if it was her first encounter with him since he killed her parents, but it's probably the 10th time or so.
Drakowyn metroid prime line isn't canon (probaly) because in the manga (based in the first game) says it is the first time fighting ridley
Metroid Prime happen after the first Metroid but before Metroid 2
I think this one is between super metroid and fusion? Anyway, if you look at the past, not only has ridley done horrible things to Samus, she blew up a planet in super metroid with ridley on it and he's back. So its kind of a "what the fuck you should be dead!" Thing Mixed with ridley killing her parents.
@@roblux7370 Didn't you play Samus Returns? Ridley's appearance makes the Prime trilogy canon.
@@MementoMori7777 "Thanks to you, the Afloraltite exploded and I was also engulfed in flames! Can you imagine how I managed to survive?! Shall I tell you what I had to feed my injured body hmm?! FLESH!! I somehow survived by consuming the bodies of your kind, tossed every which way. Foul, foul human flesh. You don’t know, maybe I even ate your “mama” so that my cells can live, hm? Is she here, or here? AT LEAST PAY YOUR RESPECTS!”
Manga!Ridley is an absolute asshole. He does manage to massively break Samus in it.
I like how even in the cut scene it still showed that you were still in Last Stand Mode
I can’t blame Samus too much when I think about how Slade came back in Teen Titans...
I don't know much about Metroid, I've never played any of the games, but I heard about this cutscene and got curious so I looked it up. Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems rather insensitive to me that people are complaining about Samus being scared of Ridley. She has PTSD, what do you expect? People don't seem to understand how severe and incapacitating PTSD can be.
She's literally killed this dude 5 times already
Because in the timeline she has already fought him 6 other times by this point and never flinched. If this was the first time she saw him after he killed her parents, then it would work. Plus they don't explain in game that Ridley did that, so most wouldn't even know.
So this badass bounty hunter... turns into an idiot because of PTSD. Well its good she decided on going on this dangerous mission... or its just a bad written scene. I got more genuine stuff out of "November Man" movie than this.
Ridley: I'm back baby! Did ya miss me?
OH HELL NOOOO
Finally, I make samus panic again
9:27. Why his up b is so slow in Ultimate.
Recently it got buffed
Right? If he can do that in this game then he should definitely be able to do it in smash!
Ok, after fighting with Ridley so many times it doesn't look good that her PTSD manifests itself so late in the chronology, but then we can agree that Retro Studios screwed up by not putting a similar scene in the first Metroid Prime, which would have been more appropriate.
The first three games couldn't do it because of the limitations and the little narrative of the time, but what excuse has a GC game? Especially after games like Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and even Zelda.
A short cinematic would have been enough, and it would have been the most logical thing to do. Taking into account the manga (which is canon), such a reaction from Samus is totally justified.
People forget (or don't know) Samus' past, and that her "personality" in the first games and Primes is INEXISTENT (again, Retro must have given her a few dialogues), and basically she was just an avatar.
Only the manga, Fusion and Other M really have a characterization, and in fact it's consistent between them. If you don't like the real (and only) personality of Samus then... you just don't like the character and that's it.
There's nothing wrong with wanting her to be different, but that doesn't mean she is.
The same goes for her looks, which for some reason many wish, demand and even claim she is/should be super muscular and tall, when she literally never has been, even in the Primes (the height and weight they always say is right is WITH the suit. The American Super Metroid guide distorted the fanbase's perception of the character).
anthony: "wheres the exit at?"
samus: "lets see here... its uh, oh! there it i-"
*exit gets destroyed*
samus: "well, thats not an option anymore"
she has seen ridley too many times
To those that hate the scene without seeing everything leading Up to it
Please if you're going to criticise it, watch all the cutscenes in the Game
the only regret Samus should've had at that moment was to let the cool black guy of the crew die stupidly because of her trauma reaction lol.
yea yea, there are tons of logical and psychological reasons as to why she freaked out like that against Ridley, i know that. its still dissapointing to see the cool black guy die just like that when she could have easily prevented it. i still think she should have automatically started to blast Ridley out without thinking, but oh well.
+HackerHaunter Come to think of it, there were monsters bigger than Ridley that she faced earlier with little to no issue at all.
Adam Malkovich Kraid is a very good example, and Mother Brain can cause even more trauma than Ridley lol
+HackerHaunter Well, Ridley did kill her parents right in front of her when she was a child.
He didn't die tho...
You sir are Racist
lol I was DEEPLY disappointed by the fearful reaction she gave Ridley. Samus and Ridley should have had the same chemistry that Peter Griffin and the Chicken that gave him a bad coupon had. No words... they fought before... they know the drill... time to IMMEDIATELY start fighting again.
Yeeeah?
This dude meets up with the most bloodthirsty killer in the galaxy, and tells him he has no style.
He's not wrong
Ok but Samus's voice is so cute
People don’t actually like it. She sounds more like a little girl than a badass bounty hunter
In this game, Ridley is pretty much the incarnation of that one guy who doesn't want you to get a kill, and then kills himselve before you can
Honestly if the game had even mentioned all the bullshit he made Samus go through at the end of the Metroid manga, this wouldn't catch people That off guard.
Besides the last time we saw him was when Zebes went kaboom. Samus surely felt hopeless that she would never be free of him
Remember, this is a _genetically bioengineered_ Ridley that's been revived *by the Federation* after his defeat on Zebes where he literally blew up into pieces.
Yeah, I'd be scared too.
Which is funny cause she doesn’t have an issue with an X parasite version of Ridley later on who would be much scarier
@@MILDMONSTER1234 And louder
@@MILDMONSTER1234 She saw the X parasite take control of it. She knew it was just a corpse. That's why it didn't bother her.
It doesn't make sense that she would have a breakdown when she saw Ridley she fought him in the other games before
And how do you know Samus wasn't shitting herself then, too?
my way of thinking is she assumed he was long dead and all of a sudden shes put in front of him again,
plus not like on nes or snes they could have portrayed any sort of emotion or break down with the graphic and sound limitations
+Michael Cappello You sir are awesome. you are the first person I've seen say this.
Also, if you look at the generally accepted canon, Ridley murdered Samus's parents, tried to kill her as well, and is responsible for the destruction of her home planet. That's a rather... what's the word? Oh yeah, _traumatic_ history she has with him.
You have a good point. Combined with the fact that Ridley was dead after Super Metroid, and I mean DEAD dead, I think she has a good reason to have a breakdown
“I fear no beast, but that thing scares me.”
Come to think of it, her reaction is actualy logical.
She did defeat Ridley multiple times in the past but knew he could come back du to the Space Pirates, come Super Metroid where she apparently finally defeat him for good with a mention for "no resurection this time" since the spaces pirates are basicly gone at this point.
She even express relief that she finally put her foes down -subconsciously dropping her guard-.
And then HE appear again out of nowhere, in his original form, and fierce as ever.
No explanations, no logical reasons in the moment, just the pure shock factor of seeing AGAIN the one who killed her parents, EVEN TOUGHT HE SHOULD BE DEAD AT THIS POINT!
She cracked, she let her guard down and the trauma came back. Until she finally snapped out of it after Anthony did his little "stunt".
honestly the music of this battle with Ridley is pretty awesoem
Metroid: How to fuck it all up The Video game.
Other M Ridley is top notch. Other M Samus, not so much...
Samus: how old are you Ridley
Ridley: I kept myself alive for 1,000 years remarkable you always beat me
Samus:Always Beat you?
You know what, after seeing this scene again after so many years, it actually works quite well and is by far the most exciting one in Other M. The idea of a Samus getting to a state that is this vulnerable, and it being her arch-nemesis of all, is pretty effective. There are only two major issues with it. 1. She wouldn't probably act like this at this point in her career and 2. This would be SO much more effective if up until this point, Samus wasn't already depicted as a much less stoic person in Other M. If she had been the usual badass Samus we know and love until this point, it would be a beautiful way to highlight just how traumatic Ridley is to her and how powerful of a villain he is. He's the only one who can break her.
i dont understand why so many fans detest this game,more specifically this scene.
in pretty much every other game she is portrayed with next to no emotion or traits of character personality...
but in this game we see a range of emotions
Heartbrake
Trauma
anger
lonelyness
regret
the scene where she briefly flashes back to her as a child while staring down Ridley was very powerfull
imagine seeing your own mother mutilated right in front of you by an evil bloodthirsty tyrant,and after going through hell and back you think you have conquered him once and for all,only for that same fiend that haunts your past to return,staring you down as if your past victory over him meant nothing...
that could be enough to brake anyone for a brief moment,even samus
she may still be a hardened bounty hunter but she is not without her own personal demons and emotions.
it could have been worse,at least other M didint portray her as some tsundere bitch
I know right?! There's no pleasing these people.
They handle it like ass though, that's the issue.
I think that a BIG reason that Samus froze was that Ridley wasn't just screeching at her. He was TALKING to her. My best guess is that he was saying stuff along the lines of, "Did you REALLY think I was gone for good?", "YOU helped me make my return possible! ", "All these years you've tried to be the hero, and yet the sad truth is, YOU'RE JUST LIKE ME!"
The PTSD of Samus is a strange thing to me. It seems to me they wanted to convey the way she reacted to Ridley in the prequel manga but forgot they were putting it in a metroid game (and a late one at that). I won't lie, that scene in the Manga where Ridley taunts Samus about having eaten her parents was gold, but still a book so it had more liberty to convey phycological elements that may just be harder to convey in these types of games.
If you ask me, the way Samus gets over her fear of Ridley is not very satisfying to me. The way she regains her senses in the manga is a beautiful scene, but ends there. Samus is ready to face Ridley for real before the games even begin, and only now do we get to see the trauma Samus has endured on screen. PTSD is not something that just turns off with the push of a button, and it would have been satisfying to see Samus overcome her fear of him across the games, perhaps finally overcoming her fear in Super metroid. But again, these are metroid games with a mostly mute protagonist in a world of visual storytelling, so there is little room to make the inner trauma of Samus work on screen.
The Manga did it well because it didn't have to follow the nature of the games and Other M wasn't following the fundamentals of a Metroidvania regardless. If we got something like a Metroid Netflix series done in the castlevania style, I think the inner trauma of Samus and how she overcomes her fear of Ridley would be a gem to see.
PTSD works like in other m does though
I know this game is almost 14 years old and multiple things have been brought up about it - including this scene - but I think she isn't exactly scared here. I believe she's pretty baffled at the fact that he's STILL alive after presumably having killed him. I'd be pretty upset too, if one of my arch enemies suddenly just pops up after having believed I've dropped him 😂
RIDLEY FOR SMASH OR RIOT
ANDRW soo how do you feel right now?
ANDRW Hes actually in smash now if u dont believe me look it up lol
R year riot... it sent a message.
I AM FROM THE FUTURE! and I have come to tell you, Our dragon has finally made it in!
Im from 2019 and i confirm ridley is now playable
I'm planning on getting this game sometime and this fight i will wanna play over and over again!
Alright guys here's something we can all agree on
Gameplay 9/10
Story 7/10
God no.
Gameplay 7/10
Story 4/10
@@RatchildUKincorrect
too me ridley has the same level of coolness and badassery as darth vader, both are fucking cool lmao
So this one is a clone.
That begs the question, is this really Ridley? Without his memories of his past life he’s just another member of his species with the same DNA sequence
She meeting fully alive Ridley only in Zero Mission. Other one were Cyborg versions, even in Super when she finaly defeated him forever. This second time when she see him fully alive with bioform.
Ladies and gentlemen... the nail in the coffin for other M
Eh...I believe the Ridley battle itself is a saving grace. One of the best battles ever, imo.
@@schizophrenicmelancholy2706 i was talking about samus being scared of Ridley. I mean chronically she killed Ridley like 4 time
@@CybermoonmageYou don't understand ptsd then ignorant
@@isauldron4337 YEAH after YEARS of fighting Ridley... Now it's a problem. no in Prime 1 prime 3 ...dread, Zero Mission and Fusion with an even scarier version
would samus be scared...yeah... but being so afraid she locks up after...YEARS of the she see seen
You just don't understand good story writing then "ignorant
Yea I remember this fight. It was pretty big standard what I expected from Ridley. That was until he picked Samus up and dragged her across the wall
3:06
3:19
5:11
4:30 - “Hey, punk! Don’t you know how to treat a lady?!”
Man, I just love that quote!
Please help! What's the theme of the music that plays at 0:53 when Samus starts scanning
Bless Anthony's heart
Best part of the game
Start at 3:06
At 3:19, Immediately skip to 5:11
Holy fuck I just fixed this shitty cutscene and restored some of Samus dignity. A much better cutscene.
I am honestly not surprised so many people were confused about what the hell is up with Samus, because this cutscene doesn't give us any indication that she feels useless because Ridley was supposed to be dead. It's so vague amd out-of-nowhere, and never elaborated kn, that I don't blame anyone for thinking Smaus's PTSD kicking in, and being promptly confused by it, since Samus fought Ridley FOUR TIMES at this point
I kept hearing about how awful this scene was and it ruined the entire game for everyone, but now that I've seen it it's really not so bad she only freaks out for a sec and it's pretty understandable given she thought she'd killed this personal nightmare of hers once and for all.
I think what's WAY worse is all her scenes with Adam, like it's "exhilarating" to take orders? 🤮🤮🤮
That's another thing that REAL PEOPLE with PTSD have explained. I forget the exact wording, but it was something along the lines of:
"She's likely using Adam and his orders as something to focus on. If she has nothing to focus on, she could easily "relapse"."
It's similar to how some people will bury themselves in their work in an attempt to NOT think about something.
Gosh this is so anime that it hurts
it explains why so many people with anime pictures in their profiles defend it.
Say what you want about the dumb story, the stupid upgrade system, and the god awful voice acting, but the gameplay was honestly really solid.
It really was. Imo story was a 2/10 but the gameplay, Especially some of the good fights like ridley was easily a 9/10 for me.
Fast paced, actiony and heart pumping
9:12 i like it how the cutscene over dramatizes samus shooting her plasma beam at ridley, as if it would actually do anything despite the fact that he literally just took like 100 of those shots without dying, i doubt ONE shot would actually make an impact...
With Samus' character, the PTSD panic attack of this degree doesn't make sense. Yes, you would be freaked out if you battled a creature 5 times, saw its dead body after metroids sucked it dry, then knew said corpse was on planet you watched blow up, and then saw it again alive and well, you would be freaked out since it would seem like nothing you could possibly do could kill it. She would've freaked out, probably assumed that maybe the Space Pirates took Ridley's corpse to heal him again (she's seen him rebuilt before), calmed down, and finished the job. She shouldn't have done this
3 times. Not 5. Learn to count.
@@Mother3Forever Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 3 twice, and Super Metroid. Now we can add Metroid: Samus Returns since they added him when they remade it and I wrote this before that came out, so it’s 6 times now
@@DarsanUchihaPRIME ISN'T CANON. SHUT UP ABOUT IT.
@@Mother3Forever Prime is canon. Look it up
Gameplay is what makes a game, not cutscenes. Mother M is a fine game.
ya know what. I finally realized why I hate most gamers even with myself being one. they think that just because the gaming company does 1 thing different, the entire game sucks. Other M was 110% Consistent with everything. Samus's Character, The storyline of the game, the Voice acting, everything about the game could have been a lot worse! A LOT WORSE. Just because it doesn't meet the expectations you give it, doesn't mean it's a bad game. This happens all the time in every damn community. I hear people complain that The game is inconsistent with Samus's character, yet if you do your research, there are parts the game doesn't add. Including the fact that Ridley Toys with, verbally and mentally scars/abuses samus, and even goes as far as to torture her by talking about the past with things such as "Your Mother's Corpse was delicious." So Samus was never able to heal. Her PTSD was growing each time She saw Ridley, she usually either suppressed it enough to not be too emotional, or turned her scars and Sadness to rage. but the fact stands that Samus was scared. She still is. The fact that Ridley was dead for good with no ability to come back, only for the Galactic Federation to pull a damn left field and without even their knowledge, Cloned the bastard, and allowed him to live because they didn't know it was him. You people act like you know more than the people who fucking created the series. you act like you're fucking entitled to shut down others for liking something just because it doesn't match YOUR EXPECTATIONS OR FIT YOUR OPINIONS. I make my arguments to try to get people to see both sides and atleast meet them at some sort of CIVIL AGREEMENT. BUT THE FACT IS You people attack others for no reason but to bitch. Other M could have been way worse. it could have been voiced by Brad Pitt and Miley Cyrus. Be fucking thankful that you even got a metroid game in the first place. one day you won't get shit. or the game company will do everything you hate to get revenge. If anyone wants to argue do it in a civil manor, or GTFO because you don't belong in the Gaming community. I'm sorry for sounding like an asshole but I've snapped and I'm fucking done dealing with People who think they're entitled Assholes.
to be honest I agree. I have yet to play this game, but seeing gameplay it doesn't seem that bad. Sure, samus getting ptsd might seem weird, but ridley KILLED HER PARENTS And KEEPS COMING BACK. At that rate I'd be stressed the fuck out and have panic attacks.
Gamers are angry that her character gets in the way of the actual game. Instead of using the whole arsenal Samus has, she turns off those abilities because someone else is commanding her to. It doesn't help that it's someone new (or not so much if you've played Metroid Fusion). Samus didn't have much of a character in the games other than being this badass character that only gets more powerful as you progress. Previous Metroid games also allowed you and encouraged you to explore different areas of the world you were on, and if you were good enough at the game you could acquire some power ups earlier than intended. Instead of allowing this in Metroid Other M, you wait for Adam to authorize it (which you may well know is now a common joke in the fandom).
Sure, I mostly came here to mock the PTSD moment Samus has, I'll give you that, and you seem more than aware it is because of her numerous encounters prior to Other M. However, even in those games, it still seems as though those times were the end of Ridley. Every time he came back before then, it was usually a different form (Meta Ridley, Omega Ridley) until finally his actual death in Super Metroid. When he shows up here, it's not much of a surprise to any of us gamers. We just expect to fight Ridley and go through the motions as usual, but we see Samus, who we have never seen distraught before this game, completely breakdown. It shattered our mental image of this character who we saw ourselves in and made us feel like the brave and famous space bounty hunter. In this game, she is constantly working against that portrayal as she awaits orders from a man to do anything, including using her own weapons and tools, rather than do things her own way because she's decided to be independent from a soldier.
I looked more into this upon your request and did some thinking. If you do research and/or read the manga, this scene does make more sense. She just recently lost the planet she grew up on as well as a creature whom she had a motherly connection to. Her emotions would be pretty unstable knowing both of these things are gone, and now here comes the spitting image of her parents' murderer in her face. Realistically, that seems more than enough to trigger some PTSD right there.
With that in mind, I still believe the problem isn't with the character itself. The game did a poor job applying her character where it usually isn't the focus. This is obviously the most story-driven game in the Metroid franchise, which is a very drastic change from the norm. The draw to Metroid wasn't the story of the character, but rather the story of the world she explored. The Metroid Prime trilogy executed this perfectly by allowing the player to scan everything on the planet. Scanning, however, is mostly optional, only needed to activate certain events (highlighted in a different color even). Samus was merely an observer of a vast alien world that you were encouraged to learn about all on your own. Therefore it made more of a connection between the character and player. Other M is trying to offer more character based on the lore, but it's such a drastic change from what we've received prior that of course gamers would get upset over. If this took place as a prequel to Zero Mission rather than a sequel to Super Metroid, maybe it wouldn't have been as bad.
4:01 "LET HER GO!"
"Nuh uh I learned this trick from Smash Bros" *drags a whiny child in blue across the wall*
After Metroid Dread, seeing Samus being so scared, so, weak. Is pretty awful. This game is such a mess lol
Samus isn’t going through grief during Dread
My juvenile headcanon is that she just happened to be PMSing reaaallllly badly during the events of Other M
@@agre224 Idem. I mean, at this point, she had destroyed the space pirates, shot down ridley and destroyed the very planet where it's corpse lay. It should be over, done with it...but then it comes back from the grave like some sort of undying evil. It can mess with one's mind.
Agree
And also, what do you expect when you put yourself in such a dangerous situation to begin with. The whole thing was dumb. Samus is not an idiot afterall
of course she'd be terrified! this is the creature that killed her parents, her family,a and even after she killed him many a time he kept coming back....
Samus should have said "Oh look, he's back" and then shot him in the face. The whole point of Samus to be a female character that ISN'T a damsel in distress. I will never play this game. All of it's defenders are people that don't care about the butchering of Samus's character. Samus isn't supposed to be humanized, she's supposed to be better than you. You'd run away from Ridley, but she won't, because she's fucking Samus. She's a badass.
Oh so now PTSD is the same as being weak. She's not a damsel in distress, she doesn't run. She's professional but she's not a robot either, if she were an unbreakable shell there'd be no interest whatsoever in character. I mean, unless you want an indestructible, un-talking, grey wall for a character.
We don't need PTSD from a space bounty hunter. You think you have a good argument, but come on now. She's robotically enhanced, that's canon.
PTSD is for your experimental JRPG. This is a metroid sequel. And the last metroid we've had for years at that.
Yeah I was playing a retarded devil's advocate there, they really did fuck with her character. I mean they've basically taken the game equivalent of Major Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell and turned her into a run of the mill teenager with no willpower or (mental) strength.
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She got over the PTSD in the manga which was years BEFORE Zero Mission. Then she kicked the shit out of Ridley in the Manga, Zero Mission, Super Metroid, and The Prime games if you count them. If you've killed someone more than once, doing it again shouldn't scare you. Japan loves pussifying girls hahaha
I love seeing Ridley getting all his skin cooked off an green blood pouring out everywhere. It's pretty violent for Nintendo. I just wish he had fallen into the lava.
Now I remember why I hate this game
Lucario X Brachydios well, you got me there. Isn't it funny that you're telling a fellow Metroid fan to kill themselves over a simple opinion about a widely negatively-received game?
Sorry for not reading your mind and knowing your whole trigger backstory, babe. I think you forgot that you aren't Samus. It's hilarious you want me to fall off a cliff so I can be a miserable wretch like you, all over an interpretation of an inherently subjective media (art). That's enough outta you.
+AceTrainerJordan you also forget you aren't samus either. nor are you the creator of samus.
Spectrum Shaytokun Wrong. I'm not the one here writing essays and yelling at people in caps over my interpretation of a work of fiction. That would be Lucario x Brach lol
AceTrainerJordan what are you even talking about.
My biggest problem is that Samus canonically went through training to have power over her ptsd. She had literally done this exact same thing some 16 years ago, with Old Bird, who **set up a meeting with Ridley for Samus's training**. She passed and has since been in better control of that fear. That ontop of this being the 4th? Time she's faced him, she should not be going into a regressive state.
Actually, this is the 8th time she’s faced Ridley, there’s Zero Mission, Prime 1, the Meta and Omega Ridley fights from Prime 3, Samus Returns, the two fights from Super, and this one.
@@Shi.f.tWrong. Prime is an entirely separate timeline. AKA NOT CANON.
@@Mother3Foreverit is canon
This game made Samus suck! She was awesome, but then we get this and all of a sudden she is just this side of useless.
this game showed that even the most hard core elite warriors have a soft side and have fears and nightmares.
+Shaytokun Okataki no it shows that Samus needs someone to hold her hand and tell her what to do instead of her being able to figure it out herself.
+ArodWingfoot You're wrong. Samus only listened to Adam because HE WAS HER ONLY FATHER FIGURE. Plus she hadn't seen him in years. I love how people won't get that through their heads. She respected Adam as both her former commander and father figure and in human mind she wanted to follow his orders.
+Shaytokun Okataki and she ends up making horribly stupid mistakes as a result to the point of almost getting killed. Devotion is one thing, but it doesn't lead to pointless suicide which she almost commits several times because Adam didn't tell her. for example she has to go through a level that is extremely hot to the point of killing her. Doesn't use her suit feature because, using your logic, "Daddy didn't tell me too."
+Lucario X Brachydios and she had killed it like a dozen times over by this point!
This is probably my favorite Ridley design
it should be illegal to call this shit a metroid game
it should be illegal to call you a metroid fan
+Spectrum Shaytokun Shots fired!!!
Why all the hatred
+José Javier Rivera Benítez because Other M is terrible
Jordan Stauffer not really. Only thing terrible here is the people saying is. Cause they're usually Butt hurt af
Seeing Samus perform a Lethal Strike on Ridley (7:41) is so satisfying...