Head to head - 1,000 yard pair fire match. .300 WSM vs. 7mm PRCW
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I think that this is one of the best forms of F Class. Head to head and who can deal with the pressure. Thanks for sharing this
Awesome video! Excellent shooting! Sure would like to see more of these videos.
This was a lot more fun to watch than I expected.
Great job gentlemen 🙌🏻
Brilliant shooting both of you … very enjoyable to watch
Dang fine windcalling...basically 3/4 of minute for 60 rounds and two shooters...STRONG!
That was great shooting by you both and great video can see the nerves and the pressure cooker going on in the last round was awesome and trigger technique.
Great Shooting gentlemen!
I really enjoy watching you shoot Eric. So many things to learn, just watching your skills. Very impressive indeed.
I have used your advice to craft my ammunition and it now shoots dead rest tied down, no meat stick inducing errors, better than I am capable of doing behind the gun.
Now to master myself and push to 1000y.
Thank you for a great channel with outstanding advice
This is where it is important to include a comma right after, "shoot..."😆
Awesome job to you both! Erik really liking how that “fat” butt 284 is performing and very nice job on the trigger!
Two amazing shooters. I have shot paired only once. A lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.
I bought an X-bolt 7RM from a gunsmith that retired from the marines that had built rifles, the rifle had been his Elk rifle, he was moving on to a 300WSM. I'm a decent shot, and based my time in BRM, better than most though I never achieved 40/40, & not by any means a competition level shooter. I've shot paired twice using 175 Federal with that rifle. The first time it happened I thought I'd missed the target completely with one round; the range master pointed out one of the holes was slightly oval, and then commented "that's impressive shooting", the second time it was a little more obvious. This ONLY happened with 175 gr Federal & after I started bringing a .22LR along and shooting 50 rounds through it prior to picking up the 7. Obviously I don't know what was done to the rifle, I know the barrel is OEM, after picking up a new x-bolt from a shop, would say the trigger has had work done. It came with a Zeiss Conquest scope.
Wow that is crazy both of you only dropped 1 shot and had same x count great shooting guys
Oralie... that is picture perfect...Badass fellas. You are determined and factual.
Holy hell.... nice job to both of you....3/4-1/2 moa is amazing to me at that distance
You guys Rock Eric! Great shooting bud😉
Very inspiring shooting
Nice video. Erik, what is the name of the stock you are using? Thank you
you are both great shooters !!
Good example of it isn't over til it's over, few examples of frustrations being overcome on both sides. Appears to maybe be some distractions encountered as well. Good shoot.
Damn! That's some good shooting fellas... 👍👍
Now that was fun to watch.
Wow! Good shooting
Bad ass, great shooting!
That's absolutely awesome
very cool. love that 300 wsm
Very cool video Erik! Velocity wise how does the 7prcw compare to the Shehane? It looked like it was recoiling a good bit.
It can run about 50 fps faster than the Shehane.
Nice! I'd say the only difference is Omar comes mighty close to a black eye with each trigger pull. That .300 WSM kick would get old in a hurry for me.
This is at Bayou Rifles in Houston, TX.
😆 I was standing at the TV rooting for you.. lol 😆
Are you going to shoot World Shoot in South Africa?
I just love this pairs fire.
Awesome... great job to you both!
Holy cow, that wsm travels a hell of a lot further back under recoil than your prcw. Optic is getting very intimate with Omar’s eye 😳. You should do a vid dedicated to talking with Alex Wheeler about the prcw!
Id watch/listen to that. Alex Wheeler is a smart dude!
Omar's ES was half yours in the second string.....are you taking that to SA ?
Impressive!
I wouldn't want either of you shooting at me at any distance lol. Great job everyone
Mexican GoTee against Mexican Gotee...LOL Bloth are great Shooters .Omar is an awesome gun builder as well. What can I say about Eriks TunerBrakes..They proved themselves.Its fun to watch Top Dawgs Go Head To Head.
Some fine shooting 😎😎
They tied on the aggregate, but Omar won, since his last shot was an X, and Eric's last shot was a 10. That's called a "Creedmoor". Either way, that's a tough position to win from, with them fellers chootin' on it. Omar can build you an F-class rifle for sure. Curious what bullet Omar is sending - I've used the 215 Hybrid Berger, and it is pretty nice.
I’m running a 215 Hybrid at 2850 and it is working well. Now of I could just run the gun better, need more experience at long range.
One word awesome
wow! These guys are good...!!
Awesome shooting! What kind of match is this?
F Class Open and pair firing.
What’s the difference between a 7PRC and a 7PRCW?
Your combined SD with 2 separate calibers is under 20 on that first string. Im going with Omar had the 300 WSM. I watched a guy win TN State couple years ago. I was his scorer, and it's a noticeable kick in the pants, but man does that bullet arrive with some velocity still left in it. I am itching to try that 7PRCW now. Maybe I will find someone who can turn a barrel for me with that. Of course after watching Frank talk about the 224 Valkyrie Im itching for that too.
Send me a barrel, I can spin one up for you
Free recoil vs standard F class hold. Interesting results
Had me on the edge of my seat, nice shooting.
that is amazing shooting. Around the 10:00 mark, both of your shots drifted left and you can see the pages of the girl in the background's notebook fluttering out to the left in the wind then falling back down.
That isnt a girl, that is "a beeg one".
Thanks fot the video Erik, just one question: everyone always told me to hit the trigger with the last part of my finger and than keep it tight, you are doing exactly the opposite: hitting it with the tip of your finger and than excaping the guard...I guess you can do whatever....but...what's the right thing to do for a semi/beginner? Thanks a lot
If you have a 1oz pull like Erik has, you can do exactly what he does. There is no squeeze...therefore no follow through. The bullet is long gone.
I always pull the trigger with the pad of my finger tip unless I have a trigger that is a few ounces then just use the tip of my finger. The goal is for the force to be only straight back. If you use the joint of the finger, you can add force left or right and that is enough to throw off your shot left or right.
Who is shooting the .300 WSM and who is shooting the 7mm PRCW? Great shooting! Omar has helped me a lot at PSC with my long range rifles.
Omar = 300 WSM
What a polite sport.
Who used the 7mm prc?
Interesting curious Erik your finger on the trigger and when you pull the trigger your finger jumps off the trigger I would figure you would keep the pressure back on the trigger after the rifle fires would love your feedback is it just your mechanics or do you do this on purpose
Keep in mind, Erik's trigger pull weight is 1OZ...which is why you see him slapping it instead of squeezing. You can't squeeze a 1oz trigger. No "follow through" required.
Exactly right. That trigger is so light that any pressure whatsoever will break the shot. You can’t squeeze it. He’s not slapping it, he’s tapping it. It looks like trigger slap because of recoil, but it’s a very controlled tap. It’s the only way to fire a rifle with a trigger that light.
Where would one get more info on the 7prcw? Is it the same dimensions as a 7-6.5 prc?
Yes.
Alex Wheeler is the designer. Contact him.
WOW thats how you go through a barrel, toasty. 👍
Omar Alonso?
How do you read the scoring? 40-2x. What does that mean
The bull, worth 10 points, consists of the 10 ring and the center X area. So in your example, so far, the shooter has a score of 40 with 2 Xs. 40-2X means that the first 4 shots were all in the bull, with 2 of them landing in the center X. The X, while counting the same as the 10 ring for score, is used at the end of the match as a tiebreaker for shooters that finish with the same point total or "aggregate" score.
quick question , why do you guys say thank you after you hit the X
We score for each other.
He shoots, I tell him his score, he says “thank you”
It’s a way to accept the score and acknowledge that he heard it.
@@ErikCortina I see , thanks
Some nice shooting guys.
I wonder if Omar shoots a rifle with less recoil will improve accuracy? (yeah like if he needs to be more accurate lol)
My longest shot with 7mm mag was 1400yds an change.
"I'm going to shoot some more of these Bergers. I've got 'em..... and they shot good."
I guess those Khales are that good
Omar’s face and optic doesn’t move, his rifle reciprocates as if on rollers. ?
It certainly does look like it’s on a “sled” type bipod. The recoil is very linear.
Who had the 300wsm
Omar.
Omar
Had to put on my ears
Nice. #!!! 😊😊😊
What size is that 10 ring
5"
10 ring is 10” and the X is 5”
254000000 nanometers
10 ring is 0.290888 MRAD and the X ring is 0.145444 MRAD
(That's exactly 1 moa and .5 moa, but I thought I'd keep @xephael3485's shenanigans going a bit longer 😉)
Because the target is in MOA, even though I favor MRAD for most applications (as you might have guessed), while the MOA vs MRAD debate is largely up to personal preference, this is one place where there's a real advantage to one over the other, and in this case, MOA is definitely the way to go.
@@wilfdarrI only use MOA on my F class rifles… all others I have MIL scopes. 25 years using mils in the military it is hard to move completely away from it.
What is the 7mm PRCW?
7mm in 6.5 PRC brass
What type of cartridge rifle fire. maybe try Wikipedia because life is hard..
@@xephael3485Wikipedia or Google would be no help here.
@@tripleceas please explain more... because PRC is on both.
I have the same question. Also, what does it mean when the say "7 on or 8 on" once the call the score of the shot?
what is Omar looking through with his other eye?
His spotting scope (left eye), before looking through his rifle scope (right eye).
Looking through a spotting scope to read the mirage which shows what the wind is doing down range.
I'm kind of surprised you converted that first sighter, considering he already had 2 Xs and your second sighter was an X, I feel like that was an error. 20/20 hindsight, you caught him in the end, but don't you think you could have got one more X if you didn't convert?
This is 1,000 yards and it was windy. As you noticed, whoever had the most 10’s won in those conditions.
@@ErikCortina Fair enough. Thanks for sharing your thought process.
Never noticed Erik's trigger finger until now. It's "unconventional". But hey, the man can shoot. Probably stupid to some, but I'd like to see a video explaining how/why you shoot like that. If there is any real reason behind it.
What's unconventional about it?
It's not a revolver: this is pretty conventional technique for a light trigger.
Trigger is 1 oz.
@@ErikCortina fantastic shooting and very nice equipment. Y'all make it look easy...
Nice shootn...what glass you use?
it's a Kahles 10x50.. I have one very clear glass, the focus throws me off because it's right under the elevation knob. but the glass is great
Iron sights obviously
@@xephael3485 no one asked you .....
That particular Kahles scope has the best performance on testing of all scopes. Schott glass, made in Austria, near where my wife was born.
PRC..W? Google is failing me and I think I'm behind. What are we talking here?
6.5 PRC necked up to 7mm.
@@ErikCortina As opposed to the straight PRC? What's the advantage longer bullets?
A few clickers on that case?
Yeah, my new reamer fixed it. Went .535 at base and no more clicks.
At the .200 line, not the base.
So confused, what tf is going on here? Shooting at the same target?
I'm waiting for all the people who don't know anything about shooting to start making comments that have only paid attention to the donut operator another nut cases on TH-cam...
Come on Eric you can do better lol
man i would love to shoot a set out of one of those rifles just to see how difficult it is first hand!
i got too many expensive hobbies as it is so I don't need another haha
very cool to see though.