It's common. When your flaps are extended and flying at a lower airspeed it takes a lot more motion to make a little movement, but the idea is to jocky the yoke so as to always create constant pressure on the surfaces for quick adjustments
Thank you so much for all the comments, it was not the nicest of days. Kerry is not the longest of runways for a Super 27, all those years struggling to take-off then the tables are turned and the landing performance makes your hair turn grey hehehe
Adrian G. Pop TAM in Bolivia still uses the 727 (at least in late 2012 when I was on one). Inside the cabin I found this plane actually rather quiet, being seated on the second row far away from the engines in the back might explain that.
bloody hell.... didn't realise the pilot had to wrestle like hell with the controls... always asumed he moved them slightly, even in heavy weather.. makes it look a harder job than I'd thought. Respect.
Not bad weather, just ordinary weather. I loved the 727 as well. Very nice and tough airplane. Too bad is gone from most markets. Nice landing too. Thanks for posting.
I spent 7 years on the 72 and really enjoyed it. Likely the best jet for a rough approach. It has a high wing loading (somewhere around 140 lbs/sq.ft) and that can bite you but it takes a beating if you stay ahead of it. The only thing I wish it had was more thrust, like the 75 or 76. A quieter cockpit would have been nice too, but a great great ship.
The pilot's did a great job, interesting to see how many steering corrections where necessary during the approach and landing, sometimes I have to do the same on the transceiver for my modelplanes when landing them in strong wind. I was surprised that this big plane also needs similair corrections as well.
As an aircraft slows, control effectiveness decreases, requiring larger and larger control movements to get the desired effect. That is why it appears he is jockying the yoke around so much. That and the turbulance from the bad weather. You should see how much I have to move the yoke in my C 182 during approach in turbulance, it looks like a fight in the cockpit.
I never realized how much the steering yolk seems to have a ton of lash.. it going left and right and in and out considerably with what looks like not much reaction from the aircraft. I've noticed that in other vids too.
Adrian amazing seeing that video on here. I recognised you both and in 2001 I went to Kerry on a flight and there was a nightstop. I don't remember the crew though but it must have been a different flight as I was in the FD and I wasn't taking any film on that day. Where is Caroline now ? Cheers Murray
You have to land the 727 at almost full thrust power. Once flew with a newbe captain, he was drenched with sweat from head to toe when we landed. 7 miles out he kept pushing forward and pulling back on power thrusters to stablize altitude. I didn't say a word to him, but boy was he a FAST learner. (I had his back all the while)
Try Captain Sims 727 in FS9 or FSX...Gives you a good idea how hard it is...Old hydraulics systems where very sluggish at low speeds...Great landing by the crew thou.
+scdevon Sorry for the late reply, since your post is over a year ago....just saw the video and read the comments. Why do you say lots of crosswind. What I heard the controller say was 27 degrees at 23 knots [ 1:37 ] so considering the plane is landing at Kerry's runway 26, there really is not much of a crosswind factor.
My semi-truck and that B727 have a lot in common. Gotta work that steering just to keep 'em str8 down the line. Guess that means I'm qualified to drive that B727 too. Bring it on, I can handle it.
Well ill just let you know that when your airplane comes in for a landing as this one is your speed is extremely slow,Its Just obove the stall speed.You want to get your aircraft as slow as you can withought stalling out of the sky.WIth this slow speed comes less speed and air coming over the wings..Think of riding a motorcycle or bike going slowly.Now get that same Motorcycle going 150 MPH any small movement you make will have large effects on your machine.Same applys with the airplane.
The pilot did perfect ending... he was off course before touching down... its not an easy job... I have experience in simulation for these situations..
ellythechick Also modern aircraft need real pilots, which aren't only button pushers. It just looks more spectacular on this video, because the pilot had to exert more force on the controls.
Here you have a million dollar plus aircraft and wipers that belong on a clown car. The mix of the two gave me a smile. Great piloting.
+Cathy Meyer ha ha ha.. absolutely agree. it was funny
I'm searching on Ebay for a pair of Boeing whipers. What an amazing touchdown in case of the conditions. That's more than just a profession Sir.
Wow! what a landing! The pilot really had to take control of his plane on this landing. Great video!
It's common. When your flaps are extended and flying at a lower airspeed it takes a lot more motion to make a little movement, but the idea is to jocky the yoke so as to always create constant pressure on the surfaces for quick adjustments
The landing was really smooth when you think how awful the weather was. Good Work
Thank you so much for all the comments, it was not the nicest of days. Kerry is not the longest of runways for a Super 27, all those years struggling to take-off then the tables are turned and the landing performance makes your hair turn grey hehehe
Very nice landing indeed! Which airline uses the 727?
Not sure if anyone still does other than in Africa. They are too noisy and thirsty.
Adrian G. Pop
TAM in Bolivia still uses the 727 (at least in late 2012 when I was on one). Inside the cabin I found this plane actually rather quiet, being seated on the second row far away from the engines in the back might explain that.
Adrian G. Pop There are quite a few 727's still flying around in Canada, all Cargo though. Cargojet and Purolator are two...
Thanks for the post. Love the 727.
bloody hell.... didn't realise the pilot had to wrestle like hell with the controls... always asumed he moved them slightly, even in heavy weather.. makes it look a harder job than I'd thought. Respect.
Jeez are those wiper powered by hamsters!? lol
Nice landing !
Not bad weather, just ordinary weather. I loved the 727 as well. Very nice and tough airplane. Too bad is gone from most markets. Nice landing too. Thanks for posting.
Love the way you wrestled her down to the runway!
This and the Dubrovnik MD-80 landing in Nice are my two favourite cockpit crosswind videos out there...
I spent 7 years on the 72 and really enjoyed it. Likely the best jet for a rough approach. It has a high wing loading (somewhere around 140 lbs/sq.ft) and that can bite you but it takes a beating if you stay ahead of it. The only thing I wish it had was more thrust, like the 75 or 76. A quieter cockpit would have been nice too, but a great great ship.
I would have thought the cockpit was quite peaceful seeing as the engines are so far back on the fuselage.
It wasn't the engine noise, it was aerodynamic (wind) noise that was very loud.@@BRaff-hl4ip
The pilot's did a great job, interesting to see how many steering corrections where necessary during the approach and landing, sometimes I have to do the same on the transceiver for my modelplanes when landing them in strong wind.
I was surprised that this big plane also needs similair corrections as well.
good workout there captain!! I should know, I flew that bird over 12,000 hours...I do miss flying her, without a doubt my favorite jet hands down
A+++++ for this video. Great plane, great flying, great ATC, the not so great, the wipers, of course lol.
Real Irish weather. Runway heavy rain. Terminal sunshine.
Yankin' and crankin' that yoke!
#B727
Nice video and an excellent job by the crew on landing in such weather!
The 727, and 737 needs large control input to get anything out of the ailerons. This is an easy landing folks.
Just another day at the office\\TOP JOB.
As an aircraft slows, control effectiveness decreases, requiring larger and larger control movements to get the desired effect. That is why it appears he is jockying the yoke around so much. That and the turbulance from the bad weather.
You should see how much I have to move the yoke in my C 182 during approach in turbulance, it looks like a fight in the cockpit.
Haaaa - the good-old days (when sex was safe and flying was dangerous. ..).
Obviously no power steering on the old bird back in the day !! Thanks for posting.
Old school for sure! Love this vid. Who is at the helm
No sophisticated avionics, t-tail, and a yoke, what more hard thing can u ask than commanding a 727 spaceship? bravo capt!
Nice job Cap! even in nice weather the 27 is a sporty airplane which is why pilots loved it-
That was AMAZING piloting!!
I never realized how much the steering yolk seems to have a ton of lash.. it going left and right and in and out considerably with what looks like not much reaction from the aircraft. I've noticed that in other vids too.
Adrian amazing seeing that video on here. I recognised you both and in 2001 I went to Kerry on a flight and there was a nightstop. I don't remember the crew though but it must have been a different flight as I was in the FD and I wasn't taking any film on that day. Where is Caroline now ? Cheers Murray
By Caroline I presume you mean Anita the F/O? Last time we spoke, she was globetrotting with her sister having a ball :))
That was a difficult landing, good job Captain.
Nicely done and filmed.
Very nice video again, JustPlanes.
OK, now that video was damn awesome.
I read this and was thinking "How on earth is this related to the video?"
And then I LOL'd!
Great first person view when the captain is flying you can see how difficult it is to land! Awesome skills coming from a student pilot.
wow those wipers sound archaic. the pilot was excellent in handling the plane tho. great vid!
You have to land the 727 at almost full thrust power. Once flew with a newbe captain, he was drenched with sweat from head to toe when we landed. 7 miles out he kept pushing forward and pulling back on power thrusters to stablize altitude. I didn't say a word to him, but boy was he a FAST learner. (I had his back all the while)
Loved them 727's
First time I watched it, I skipped to the landing. Thought the noise from the wipers was the captain going "Ahhhhhhhhhhh....."
SpeedCat I think is a cargo callsign? Also the Papa at the end of the call sign denotes positioning flight i.e. it's empty
Speedcat was the Callsign of Cougar Airlines. The official designator being GCR365P which you stated correctly was a positioning flight. :)
Sweet!!!! Love the 727 xD
that was a handfull even at a crosswind at 23kts. fun to watch
It's not, it's just the airplane that's fighting the wind...Any aircraft handles this way under this kind of weather.
It seems like they're moving the stick really far.....do you have to move it that much to control the plane? I thought it would be real touchy.
Love you Anita xxxxxxxx :-)
Typical Ireland, soon as he gets the plane down and taxis to the terminal the sun shines. God I love this country.
Try Captain Sims 727 in FS9 or FSX...Gives you a good idea how hard it is...Old hydraulics systems where very sluggish at low speeds...Great landing by the crew thou.
Good work. Lots of crosswind on that one.
+scdevon Sorry for the late reply, since your post is over a year ago....just saw the video and read the comments. Why do you say lots of crosswind. What I heard the controller say was 27 degrees at 23 knots [ 1:37 ] so considering the plane is landing at Kerry's runway 26, there really is not much of a crosswind factor.
That plane looks terrifying to land. It seems like the controller is not accepting all the inputs the pilot is making. Great video.
Cap'n had his hands full on that one, but he still made a nice landing. Kudos Cap!
My semi-truck and that B727 have a lot in common. Gotta work that steering just to keep 'em str8 down the line. Guess that means I'm qualified to drive that B727 too. Bring it on, I can handle it.
Kerry... place in Ireland or Kerry the female pilot? :P
let's see a scarebus pilot do this!!!
carleton morris Why?
Airbus relies too much on technology, these guys however have to do it theirselves, more control
+carleton morris How about a Russian pilot in something like a IL62 without power assistance. *Thats* flying.
+Aertraveller Shhh... let 'em hate. They don't know yet 777 and 787 are fly-by-wire too.
Your ignorance is simply amazing.
well done! congratulations.
Great skill!
Well ill just let you know that when your airplane comes in for a landing as this one is your speed is extremely slow,Its Just obove the stall speed.You want to get your aircraft as slow as you can withought stalling out of the sky.WIth this slow speed comes less speed and air coming over the wings..Think of riding a motorcycle or bike going slowly.Now get that same Motorcycle going 150 MPH any small movement you make will have large effects on your machine.Same applys with the airplane.
Talk about a cross wind! Well done, Captain.
i know that air port well, have flow in there a few times and its nerve racking in bad weather.
Them fucking windscreen wipers are crazy!
LOL..Who goes "Let's make a smoothie in the blender on final approach in bad weather!"
Jeff Thompson Best comment I have read for a long time. Haha
Thank for new experience
wow...great job, Pilots! You tell that plane who the boss is!
Done that in a 182.. :-) Full deflection of every control just to keep her on point. Good times. Wind 30 knots at 30 degrees and shifting into KMTP.
dublin airport always windy ~~ salute to da pilot~
This is who I want flying my plane.
The Yoke looks more like an exercise machine at a gym!
hey have you ever tried to land a plane with strong cross winds ? i have its not as simple as keeping the yoke straight .
some loud wiper motor, but great job putting her down
That reminds me, never to go to Kerry... and yep those wipers are horribly annoying, but good job on the landing
very danger,perfect landing,congratulations mr commandant
Is this still used in passenger service?The "newest" 727 is 29 years old
Heroic touchdown!
Good stuff!
I would have got hypnotised by the wipers.
What a weird aircraft! - The callout is human voice?
wow that was excellent
no it s just bad weather you have to adjust all the time weather it s 727 or the 737NG
Those sound like some high quality wipers.
The pilot did perfect ending... he was off course before touching down...
its not an easy job... I have experience in simulation for these situations..
Always seemed to me the 727 had hard landing gear suspension, that all landings seemed hard, like the one in this video.
Steady hand. Skilled pilot.
Now that´s a great pilot.
The wiper motor did it's job. A little loud? Classic....
Are all the wipers that loud?
Its the nature of the beast,all 727s have nosey wipers.
why the wiper sound so loud? is that been design like that?
Will someone mend the damn wiper
what air line is that?? im assuming Aer lingus or Ryan air?
They'll be no point buying the DVD as we've seen most of it on youtube :D
Just kidding ... keep it up Just Planes !
Nice! Way to work it!
Great landing. Thats what pilots train for!
I second that! :)
Real airplane which requires real pilots not whole bunch of button pushers which if taken away from them, they are pretty much screwed. Well done sir.
ellythechick
Also modern aircraft need real pilots, which aren't only button pushers. It just looks more spectacular on this video, because the pilot had to exert more force on the controls.
Not a tough landing. Entertaining for the front end crew. Weather at EINN gets far worse than that.
That pilot is a boss.
Good job!
Good to hear the voice of the FE calling out the rad alt.
You have nerves of steel capitan , nerves of steel !
Man its like old School boxing shit
Is this a cargo airline?
controls really fighting with ya on landing.
amazing!!!