Why Fire Style Is So Useless In Naruto
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- Why Fire Style is useless in Naruto. Fire Style is the most used element in the Naruto series. Still, fire does not damage and is useless more often than not in Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. If you compare that to the other elements like Lightning Style and Winds Style, Fire doesn't have a powerful impactful jutsu.
Sasuke, one of the most important character's signature jutsu is fire style, and yet it feel very underpowered. In this video let's analyze why abilities like the fireball jutsu are not very useful in the Naruto series and how they could have been done differently.
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What's your favorite Fire Style Jutsu?
probably the fire ball jutsu
O fogo só é usado como controle do momento
The combination of wood style and fire ball Nadara used to almost kill the 5 kage
I feel like it needs to be concentrated it seems to do more area damage than idk how to say it but yknow..
You are definitely right tho
Anyone else wants to share their sadness about how Amaterasu was disrespected, it feels much worse
Fr like I hated so much how in the final battle, Naruto literally counters a fire as hot as the sun that burns forever by just taking off his jacket. That scene was stupid asf
@@stefanrosu248 he didn't took off his jacket, he just protected himself with kurama's chakra.
Yeah, and Jigen literally talking shit on Amaterasu as he absorbs it 😂
The moment in anime people say a technique is unstoppable, or insta-kill or whatever, you know that sht is just not gonna achieve anything lol.
@@lopeshick9607 *CSM ep 8 be like*
In my opinion, Aang using Fire-bending in Avatar was even more effective at showing fire's power than the enemies because it introduced caution. It took "don't play with fire, or you'll get burned" and made it an important part of Aang's fire-bending training.
Agreed
It also helps that in Avatar no one is seemingly that op to begin with. Yeah there are some 'masters' of bending but they are far inbetween. So no water bender can summon tsunami like Kisame did in Naruto, or even creates waves of flames like Madara did.
fire was dangerous and better done in atla compared to most shows agreed, but even that was tamed to a large degree. the properties of fire in atla didnt burn all too often except when the narrative required it - in most fights getting hit by fire meant you got pushed back, not burnt. we saw a lot of people get hit by fire in that show but few really burnt
it was more akin to like a wind blast or in hand to hand fights more like enhanced hits/pushes instead of oh shit he got hit in the chest hes burnt some flesh there
but yeah again still well done, fire was still dangerous and it never felt like yep aang will just tank that
Fire is weak as shit in Avatar.
If fire is gun, water earth and air are guns that can annihilate/shoot around walls to get you.
The only character that I remember that have actually perished to fire in Naruto was the random ANBU Shinobi who tried to save the third Hokage and smashed himself directly into the barrier jutsu created by the sound four. Ironically, it wasn't even a fire style jutsu
Hahahhahahahah😂
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Or Nagato losing his ability to walk to a fire attack
How bout when Itachi murdered Sugaru Aburame with Amaterasu as revenge for Shisui
Itachi, third hokage, all the iuchiha, kakashi, I can go on and on
One other exception is Yamamoto from Bleach. Every time he uses Ryujinjakka ( his fire ability ) , he burns that person out of existence unless he chooses not to. Then his bankai ( an upgraded form of his fire ability ) condenses the heat of his flames to erase anything from existence , make him self as hot as the sun and use his flames to create a skeleton army made out of ash.
Every single major villain in the series has decided they don't wanna deal with Yamamoto's fire since it was too steong and they comed up with ways to avoid or counter it , Aizen through Wonderweiss and Yhwatch through Bankai stealing
@@AlexT7916 poor guy
Not only Yama. Bazz B, Love and Isshin very powerful
@@KamiSniShot Isshin?
Mha is another example even though he listed it as doesn’t do much. Endeavor majorly injures or flat out kills characters he hits with his fire. Dabi also injures or kills people he hits too.
Only Madara could make it useful. Then again, he managed to actually take someone down with a kunai, so doing it with Fire Style is very easy in comparison.
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That's what I'm also saying I was about to say then madara is the only one who can make fire useful
Sasuke is better at Fire Style than Madara
@@truzzprod.8191 ? Any time he uses fire style it gets blocked or dodge like it’s nothing
Majestic destroyer flame>fire ball justu
@@ultimatezack6437 you're acting like sasuke doesn't know that jutsu 😂
Which is why I really like that in Bleach, one of the strongest characters is a fire user and that ot actually amounts to something. The relatively recent Ep 6 made a great showing for how heat and fire can be portrayed as dangerous
I was so happy to see that fight animated, out of TYBW arc that was one of my favorite fights next to a few others I don't wanna spoil for those who don't know . But I will spoil this I'm also so excited to see Grimmjow coming back on the screen he was my favorite Espada. Even over Ulquiorra and that's a real tough customer to beat considering he basically had the Espada equivalent to Bankai ( his second resurrection)
Natsu Mereoleona Roy Mustang etc
Every time old man Yamamoto showed up, we are reminded why we shouldn't play with fire. Not just the recent episode.
@@homomagii are u talking about natsu dragneel? cuz i honestly cant remember a single time he’s burned someone, he usually uses his flames to boost his strength rather than actually burning stuff and honestly same for mereoleona, has she really burned her opponents as opposed to just blunt force boosted by her fire (i havent kept up with black clover so i genuinely dont know if something new has happened on that front)
@@homomagii Natsu? The guy who punches with fire instead of burning with it?
Same for Sisgoleon.
You’re correct in that it’s generally non-lethal in the anime and manga, but i think that’s as a result of how it’s used. Typically a fireball is thrown out to force the opponent to move. (Sasuke forcing Itachi to jump to the ceiling, Itachi forcing Kakashi to go underground.)
In Naruto, that's right, but fire isn't generally non-lethal in the manga and anime. Of course, this is just my personal experiences, but most action manga and anime I have watched, even some of those that aren't too serious have fire as lethal dangerous. So I think fire in anime and manga isn't that generally non-lethal. Even among Big Three, we have Bleach, which in its main story, Yamamoto's fire mostly means there will be people die.
@@nameless_moon Amaterasu really made fire dangerous in Naruto. Before then genin could get out of the way of a directional fireball.
@@Prince_Luci Yeah... Remember the time when Shishui's fireball pushed the target instead of burning them ?
@@nameless_moon mhh. I remember it backwards. In most story is fire one of the coolest, but at the same time one of the most useless powers.
It is rarely damaging the clothes or skin. It mostly only do dmg, when it touch you. Many people are hit with it but stay completly fine.
It is even one of the most countered powers (to many weaknesses, or simply absorbed).
The only cases, when it is doing real dmg is in most cases again no names. Or, when the enemy has regeneration power.
@@hasseo195 Like I've said, differences in personal experience, I guess. Most of serious mangas and animes I've read always potrayed fire as lethally dangerous. Even in some non-serious ones, it did burn clothes and skin. In most instances, it did cause damages without direct touching. And the victims arent always no name - infact, not only they are named character, many of them are the main characters, protagonists, or antagonists. One example: Shishio Makoto of Rurouni Kenshin.
It's one of the many rules of anime:
Fire doesn't burn. The only person who actually got burned with it was Asuma.
I believe that it was just Naruto's rule, not anime's rule in general... It has the same weight as saying Dragon Ball rules such as most main characters will never truly die is one of anime rules.
Which is funny for Asuma is like, a snake should be immune to his poison.
Naruto,gamakichi,gamatatsu defeated three tails using fire and oil
@@amazinggaming9870 The three tail got captured by the Akatsuki tho ?
@@nameless_moon did you watch guren arc,after naruto defeated it,akatsuki captured it
I remember when Sasuke tied Naruto to a tree and fireballed him and Naruto came out of the fire nothing happened lol
Almost 2 decades later and I still don’t know how Naruto survived that besides it likely being a clone.
Sounds like a filler episode, that would probably be why
@@smaragdchaos Happened in the manga too
@@aceclover758 It didn't. Sasuke used a grand total of 3 fire moves against Naruto in VotE: Number 1 was Housenka no jutsu in CS1 to distract Naruto and get him with chidori. Number 2 was Goukakyuu no jutsu in base, which Semi Kyuubi Naruto negated with a scream, and number 3 was another Goukakyuu no jutsu against one tailed Kyuubi Naruto, which didn't do anything due to being protected by Kyuubi's chakra.
@@aceclover758because Naruto durability high.he even survived gaara sand bullets like nothing happened. In last fight he survived six paths ameteratsu
Avatar has the same problem imo. 99% of firebending just pushes people back or knocks them over. Essentially, it's just a more aggressive/concussive form of air bending.
The only time it actually burns people is when the plot demands it for dramatic effect. For example, Zuko getting burned by his father. Or the time when he met an earth kingdom girl who hid her feet because they were burned by firebenders.
In Naruto, roughly a fifth of Ninjas use fire style while in Avatar a 4th of benders could firebend. I think the problem is that fire is too common in both cases. If fire were treated realistically, then too many people would be covered in gruesome burn marks and it would be off-putting.
It works in Full Metal Alchemist because Colonel Mustang is literally the only one who use fire alchemy. Therefore every time he chooses to burn someone, it's a dramatic event. It never gets cheapened by no-name fodder using it.
Fire is the scariest elements I would like to get by irl
you hit the nail on the head, fire is so inherently dangerous that the more common it is, the more of a problem it becomes so only shows like fullmetal brotherhood and bleach where a few individuals like roy mustang and head captain yamamoto can use fire are considered extremely dangerous
Just reminds me how much I wished for a more gritty and realistic movie series/show adaptation of Avatar, which could show just how brutal and graphic those battles really would be. It would be such glorious carnage, a showcase of how the war REALLY went down.
I mean, obviously we're never getting it. But fucking hell it would be epic.
couldn't said it better myself, well said
Avatar has no 1/4 of benders with fire, it is close to half.
Water was dwarfed to one city and air has one guy
I remember shisui once got cornered by anbu or smth and one of his moves was a fire jutsu, which did hit the enemy, but he gets PUSHED by the fireball, not burnt. fire, even when it hits, gets relegated to some sort of blunt force and not something that burns. it's kind of hilarious
Imagine if fire style actually did damage and every time it was used someone got burned to ash
Fire Style does do damage… I think there’s actually ash style or boil release.
Well because fire style is fire style. But if you have wind and fire you get the "Scorch" kekei genkai. That'll turn a man to ash.
@@Temp-vd7ui why didnt naruto ever use scorch release when he befriended kurama? Just ask kurama for some fire chakra alongside his rasengan and boom, unstoppable scorch release rasengan
@@youtubestudiosucks978 the normal rasengan doesnt have a chakra nature and rasenshuriken doesnt even need it, shit deatomizes people. it would be cool but i think it js wouldnt be necessary
This is essentially why in Fullmetal Alchemist the only characters Roy Mustang fought could regenerate; Allowing Roy to actually burn opponents, while not making the battle too one as sided.
The problem with fire in anime is that serious injuries from fire tend to cause permanent cosmetic wounds like burn scars. This means making a major design change to a prominent character. Generally publishers want to avoid this to maintain recognizability and familiarity for popular characters, this is also why shows with sword and blade combat don't often have characters lose limbs or if it does happen it's temporary.
Same way most sword fights are just constant clashing and if characters get cut to shreds they don’t have any lasting scars unless it’s a story relevant thing.
Considering that in Naruto there are medical ninjas, I always figured this wasn't such a big problem, you can burn someone in a fight and a few chapters later the character regenerates.
Bleach does something similar with Orihime healing everyone, there's also the Medic Squad, but at the same time, considering that all damage can be healed, characters still don't even get ridiculous amounts of damage, Bleach you could have characters losing arm in a fight and have Orihime heal, but even that doesn't happen.
Part of me suspects that the reason fire is treated this way is mostly to do with out of universe circumstances. That is to say for fire to be applied "realistically" it would necessitate continual changes to character designs to incorporate the damage e.g. burns and clothing. That would be an unwanted pressure even if the damage was repaired between fights so we end up with fire either doing nothing or killing outright with nothing in between.
Or fire could behave more like a damage over time spell rather than acting as if fire had immense concussive force despite not being solid or liquid.
They could use the excuse that "Charkra fire isn't real fire, but chakra put in the shape of fire, so it doesn't burn the same way real fire does"
Or something like that.
Lol.
It’s also likely that burns and so on are a bit gruesome for media intended for children.
I'm going to say that in Boruto, that guy Kashin Koji uses the flames of Mount Myoboku to kill one of his Kara members. He says that "chakra fire" is weaker than actual flames. He then attempts to murder Konohamaru with fire as well.
Yea these guys probably don’t watch Boruto but he’s personally my favorite fire-style user in naruto. He makes it look so bad ass
@@reddboytv1332 Same here man. Cheers mate. Kashin Koji rocks.
But I mean it wasn’t fire style jutsu it was a summoning jutsu so maybe that’s not fair.
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 You gotta look up the scene on TH-cam. Kashin Koji kills Victor with fire jutsu. The summoning jutsu you are thinking of is when Koji murdered Ao from the Mist Village.
@TheSpectacularRevenant K but you are wrong though.🤣I'm looking at the evidence found on Narutopedia.🙃
Bruh, Endeavour in MHA literally roasts villains to death. This is straight up just a Naruto problem
Name any other fight where endevor won, it’s a shonen problem
@@sushkevin883 honestly Yamamoto (from Bleach) is the only anime character I've seen where his fire abilities are actually intimidating and does heavy damage to people and the environment
@@sushkevin883 the only enemies that resist the Endeavor fire,i think is Shigaraki,and Shigaraki has a lot powers right now.
@@user-tb2db5wv1c I was thinking if that too but I don’t know too much about bleach to make a definitive conclusion. That and Ace from one piece are the ONLY exceptions to the rule
@@sushkevin883 its a shonen problem definitely some fire moves in op don't feel very deadly,same with fairy tale
But there are 4 exceptions that I can think of that don't do this
Jjk bleach and black clover(ish)
They make characters actually due by fire or make feats that make fire powers scary
Like the only time a non amaterasu fire style did damage was when Sasuke's burnt Itachi's hand. But just like that entire fight, Itachi probably just let it happen to make Sasuke feel good.
My issue with Fire Release is how limiting it is. Sasuke’s second MS allows him to shape and command black flames, but other users of Fire release don’t seem to have any form of controlling fire. Most just spew it! No one makes any fire chains to bind someone like Avdol. No one beats up their sword or palm to do an erupting burning finger. No one uses it to make some sort of shield or convert it into plasma to create a plasma sword I would have Taken that! Just something that wasn’t Amaterasu!
But no it’s all the same. Big fire ball or dragon pew pew pew!
I think kishimoto wrote himself into a corner when fire style is limited by being produced only in your stomach. Explosion release is external creation and can be controlled, scorch release is just a step above Fire release bur below Blaze release, and steam release gives jet propulsion, something that Ace from One Piece can do with his Fire release, and lava style is just more useful entirely.
Kishimoto made Fire release lame because there are just straight up better versions and those other versions can do different things instead of being spat out.
Yea. And blaze release just personally invalidated all other fire jutsus for me
Thankfully only Sasuke had it and databooks wise, blaze release is unique and his own creation since Itachi could never manipulate the black flames themselves
Naruto Shippuden: Blood Prison seems to give Katon some credit. Mui has the abilities Katon: Tenrō and Katon: Gōka Tenrō, which when placed on the target restrict chakra usage and burn them if they keep pushing, they may even combust. His Tenrō Kaken jutsu is also pretty cool, one stab sets the target on fire immediately
Essentially in anime, they aren't going to kill off their main characters so easily, so the more dangerous an attack is, the less likely it is to do anything. Fire is one of thr most inherently lethal elements out there, therefore it will rarely ever land blows that deal significant damage lol
It's called the Worf effect: You build something up to be a badass only for it to always lose in order to hype up something else. Look at Amaterasu for example, after a certain point in the story it also became useless. Base naruto negged it using an elbow's worth of V1 Chakra.
This is how life works its only strong against someone who doesn't know its weakness or doesn't expect it from the user.
Anyone who made Naruto OC's back in school would already know this. I remember thinking of like Jutsu's you could give them and being like: Man, what can I do with fire that the anime hasn't already done?
1. Fire Stil: Body Heat Overdrive
2. Fire Stil: Skin Melting Heat
3. Fire Stil: Fire Prison
4. Fire Stil: Blinding Fire
5. Fire Stil: Air eating Fire
6. Fire Stil: Exploding Fire
7. Fire Stil: Fire Trap
8. Fire Stil: Dry Heat
9. Fire Stil: Heat Illusion
10. Fire Stil: Burning Heart
Fire Style: Spontaneous Combustion Jutsu.
Dodge that, scrub!
Fire Style: Phoenix Flame Barrage
For your information that fire that Sasuke started to cook the fish during the chunin exams was very helpful :)
I think fire jutsu's main weakness is its tactical limitations.
Think of a tactical fight like Shikamaru vs Tayuya. If Tayuya was a fire jutsu user instead of wind, the fight would have looked different.
If Tayuya burned the forrest to make a forrest fire, she would have placed BOTH shikamaru and herself at a worse tactical position.
Unlike other elements like water, fire's main value comes with its destructive nature.
During the early days of Naruto it took a very powerful water jutsu to produce water out of nothing. This meant being able to produce water and change the environment made for huge tactical powerswings. You not only make your weaker water jutsus easier to use, you also allow for lightning jutsus to be easier to land.
Lightning justu can take advantage of other elements like combos with water, cutting through earth, and bolstering weapons.
Earth jutsu also had the ability to change terrain, provide cover and so forth.
Wind and fire both focus on destructive power but unlike wind which can be used to bolster weapons, strengthen other jutsus like pressurizing water or fanning flames, Fire can only produce more fire.
Fire jutsus boil down to "imma burn everything in this particular direction" and that doesn't give you anything to work off of. Couple that with the fact that other elements like earth or water can counter by blocking the fire jutsu themselves and you get a very one-dimentional style.
One might say fire jutsu is so niche that it's a surprise it hasn't died.
True. I never really seen fire style do something to someone. Its like ninja turtles and their swords. You never really see them use it but its always there
They use them but only when fighting’s robots or when it’s one of the edgy comics
Nah, the ninja turtles use their swords pretty often. Literally cutting people up and decapitating/beheading people (Leo in TMNT 2012 literally killed and/or beheaded The Shredder) and/or etc.
Also, only Leo uses swords and he uses them all the time (to the point where in TMNT 2012 and Rise he would slash stuff and/or characters when startled and/or surprised. And across most versions beheaded and slashing characters and/or things up were some of his go to moves), the others use different main weapons. And then they are weapons they all know how to use to varying extents and/or side weapons.
In the Mirage comics (the OG comics); they were literally assassins, and Leo (and probably Donnie too) had some of the bigger kill counts in that.
In IDW; Leo has literally slashed a mutant's wings off and a bunch of other stuff.
In 1987; Leo was actually pretty stab/slash-happy, to the point when Leo was cutting April free, the brothers were worried he was doing something more deadly than that. Lol. To be fair though, Leos are both incredibly protective and kind, but can also be very stabby and/or murder-y.
I already gave u some examples for TMNT 2012 and Rise (and Leo did in Rise also did pretty awesome stuff with both his swords and powers in the show and movie).
TMNT 2003 Leo did great stuff with his sword too; like against their Shredder(s).
Etc., etc.
Anyways, this is a pretty bad comparison imo; swords do stuff all the time in TMNT. And again; only one of the turtles uses swords; the others have different weapons so ofc u wouldn't see them use it?
Fire can defin. do stuff too (like it should); just maybe not in Naruto and some other series.
Even though they live in the land of fire, there are only 2 clans that are known for having a natural affinity for fire style jutsu. Considering the Uchiha are one of them and their last living members were Sasuke, Obito, and Itachi(and now it's just Sasuke and Sarada), it's no wonder we don't really see it all that often.
I think the issue about fire style is that they never really embrace the nature of fire that can last for a while after the jutsu is first casted. Like using fire to slowly trap an enemy in a circle of fire. This could be pretty useful in the early part of the series where a fire style could actually do damage as opposed to near the end where every major character be it the main characters or the villains could tank basically anything but senjutsu. This is the most simple use of fire style I could think of. There's definitely more creative ways you could use fire style
Madara and Kakazu are the only ones who recognised this weakness of firestyle and augmented it by creating stronger versions of it. with the right intent.
The majestic flame justsu is the only right way to use firestyle.
Kakuzu fire styles alone without nature combinations was the strongest we seen besides Madara in terms of raw power
Sasuke’s blaze release doesn’t count since it’s not fire style
Sad thing is Kakuzu's solo fire got kinda wasted, it only really got dangerous when he combined it with wind
Related to it: I think part of the reason that fire in Shonens typically is a bit gimped is because there's a limit on what you can show. Burns are very visceral and nasty looking, and death by fire is a horrifying sight, so I think a lot of Manga kind of soft-pedal it for the sake of not making a series aimed at teens TOO violent.
I mean it's understandable with all the unique jutsus in the naruto universe one them has to take the fall as the "generic dangerous power that said characters would use then other characters would either dodge or tank to look cool" and fire tends to be that power. It's not relegated to naruto either fire tends to be the fodder power in alot of animes.
Except fire force but fire is their whole power system so it just can't be useless
Air gear had fire elementals as one of the strongest in their power system. They could manipulate someone's perception of time even stopping it altogether. All the powers were physics based so the creator would fit them conceptually into the series and give characters abilities that stretch into every physical phenomenon under their elemental umbrella. One of the best power systems I've ever seen in a shounen.
Another thing about it, you talked about water but there is at leat suigetsu, zabuza and kisame, strong charachters that can only use water, the same goes for basic every element, except fire where even sasuke rarely used fire moves, onky using his eletric style
Suigetsu’s water monster was a kekkei genkai, its his clan’s ability to become/manipulate water at all
That's not a Kekkei Genkai. That's his clan Hidden Jutsu, just like Shadow Possession is Hidden.
@@kijanajenkins2546 the hozuki clan’s kekkei genkai is to become water which is how they are able to use the jutsu bro
Even fire force, they handled the intensity of fire appropriately
The name of the series is fire force, it's the least they could do
@@thatguy8841 plss imagine calling your show fire force and having the fire do nothing, that would be tragic
@@thatguy8841they accurately showed how dangerous fire is
but that's the only form of power in the anime, all the abilities are fire related
and that gets old fast, they could have at least created fire variants
like what kishimoto did with the amaterasu
@@kingsoli589 Yeah, there's only so much I can believe basic fire can do
@@boshlovely2002 lol
Fire in Naruto has always worked as a support ability. Sasuke using fire to heat up the atmosphere for kirin, Itachi using the heat from amaterasu (which lets be honest, is just an evolved haxed version of fire) to prevent Kabuto’s environmental jutsu from working, and hell even Madara by using fire release on his wood release to create a large combustion so that the pollen would have spread much faster.
I think fire doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to in anime in general is because of how devastating it actually is. It would mess with certain plots and create lots of issues. That’s not even mentioning that fire doesn’t even have to touch you physically to be lethal. Idk this is just my view on it all. Fire may not be the most logically accurate and consistent, but it does have a place nonetheless.
That's true, still it's kinda sad how inconsequential it is on its own. At least Madara had a few moves that could be lethal, like Katon: Ryūen Hōka no Jutsu
It's absolutely ridiculous how fire can't burn wood in naruto. Like, wood is basically just fuel for fire, why can't it burn?. Why is wood so op in naruto? Aside from being able to shape it, earth is still harder and more durable than wood. Fucking hell, making wood style op is the stupidest shit ever. How is wood better than fire? Than water? Than fucking lightning? How is it as special as particle release? They made wood fucking nanomachine. Has kishimoto ever heard of forest fire? A single spark can burn an entire forest, why? Because it's made of fucking wood. I mean what did I expect from someone who made stealthy covert ninjas into glowing wizards with giant fucking energy gundam and giant pets. that do no fucking stealth. The "ninjas" in naruto are just the anbu, espionage, assassination, covert stuff. And that's 1% of naruto
Amaterasu is still a very powerful ability its an underrated ability sasuke still uses it and it takes care of everyone slower than the raikage
Amaterasu literally only works one time in the series, it's so heavily nerfed
@@DygoKnight its because itachi does not want to kill anyone on purpose that is how he is raikage dodged it yes but it is literally stated in databooks that the raikage has a speed not inferior even to yellow flash(minato)
@@DygoKnight Facts. The nerfing of Amaterasu is disrespectful af. For example, even though Jigen can absorb it, it still hit him, so therefore, it should damage him before he actively starts absorbing it. You should make a video about Amaterasu being nerfed as well. It probably has enough content to do so
@@rushipatel7399 😂
Amaterasu is basically worthless
Do you think lightning style is the most effective and versatile jutsu in the Naruto verse?
Lightning has always been the best element in many series.
It’s faster
Has more versatility
Can control metal
Anyone getting hurt can be paralyzed or stunned
Create light and blind opponents
Speed up your metabolism to heal yourself(somehow)
Hacking abilities
Produce elective fields to block plasma
And perhaps the most bullshit power: resetting your heart. Even if you die you can prepare your revival to catch your opponent off guard.
Death touch by shocking your opponent to death is another versatile ability.
Like fire abilities, electric abilities should also grant the user to create a concentrated plasma blade.
Now the funny thing is, controlling electricity this way is not how electricity works. Fiction has done this over and over with the magical properties of electricity. Our entire body is controlled by it, and if your opponent can take advantage of your nervous system then it’s game over.
The only way of dealing with electricity is to ground yourself or highly insulate yourself. So someone who is made of of earth non metallic materials is a great counter for electricity. But kishimoto thought he was clever when he made lightning effective against earth.
Fire might not be that scary in most series,but because of the same reason,when fire is actually intimitating it makes it truly terrifying.
I personally dont think fire is non-lethal in most series. It is just happened that many mainstream ones that has lighter general atmosphere with less realistic physical rules like Naruto typically nerf fire attacks. Among big 3, we have Bleach. Other famous series like MHA and FMA/FMAB, Roukuni Kenshin, etc. also treated fire better than Naruto.
I’d say the Kirin/Rasenshuriken varient for fire style WOULD be Madara’s Majestic Destroyed Flame, that seems to be the strongest fire style jutsu every displayed, even tho it was only used a single time, by one of the strongest shinobi ever, and even then it didn’t do anything because it got countered by like 10 water style users, however that could also be a point as to why it is the strongest fire style technique
Fire style suffers the Worf effect. It is naturally scary and raises tension, but if the author actually let's a character be severely burned by fire that character is more or less out of the fight immediately. Even in FMA, Mustang is only allowed to severly burn characters that are fodder or supposed to die that chapter. Fire is all or nothing and shonen fights need slow progression of injuries.
I agree. Fire style really only has basic use applications. I only remember seeing it used as something to shoot at ur enemy. I guess it’s used to make smoke or steam (madara vs army).
I think fire style was limited early on due to it pretty much being exclusively used as fireballs or fire breath. All the other elements like Wind, Lightning, Water, and Earth can be used from already existing stuff like the wind around you or the earth below you, but literally every fire jutsu we see is just fire breath with extra steps. Other manga like Bleach and Demon Slayer have pretty dynamic uses of fire with characters like Yamamoto and Yoriichi being incredibly op because of how dynamic they can use it.
Comparatively naruto is literally just spamming fireballs over and over, there’s no real variety to the ability outside of guys like Madara, Obito, and Jiraiya occasionally adding their own spin on it. If the ability was more dynamic, like being able to fire bend in Avatar, or being able coat a weapon in fire like in Bleach you could add variety and versatility to the ability instead of spamming one attack.
One thing that bothered me in particular was that clans like the Sarutobi and Uchiha were supposedly fire style masters, but were in reality just the same as normal ninja by spamming fireballs. Imagine of in Hiruzen’s fight against orochimaru he pulled a Yamamoto and covered the battlefield in fire and used his staff as a flaming weapon, or, someone like madara using their fan to control and bend massive flames into their enemies. There’s so much versatility, so just limiting the attacks to fireballs and occasionally giving cool abilities to exclusive Kekkai Genkai kinda takes away from the ability.
Ive complained about this so much Fire Style actually had moments where it burned things like fire does in part 1 but in shippuden if its not a rasengan or chidori it might as well be a soft tickle
I liked how Sauske used Amatarasu to break free of the ice world against Kaguya
It's sad because fire is inherently devastating if just left to grow from Bic lighter size flow. Kishimoto and the show really did drop the ball on fire.
Yeah, I think fire as an element it's hard to balance, it's either too OP or useless 😂 I think I would have loved for lighting style to be the advance variation of fire release in Naruto, making fire users less useless.
Doesn't make sense as there different elements
@@jeambeam3173 that’s why they said they WISH, as in thats how they personally wanted it to work
that would make it have similarities with Avatar: TLAB (and you know people tend to be with the Naruto / HxH comparasions)
Clearly, Sage of Six Paths Mode Naruto was doing everything in his power to block that fireball because Sasuke figured out how to create real fire instead of chakra fire.
So we aren’t going to talk about madara using majestic flame so strong that it took an entire line of water style users to block it using water wall, then used firestyle to knock out the 5 kage by burning the wood he created.
Come on, where's celestial fire prison? It solo'ed Satori when everyone couldn't
Imagine if Naruto learned fire style and combined it with the wind rasenshurkien or wind rasegan.
I remember seeing a joke about this with Sasuke and kagutsuchi with it only having killed low level things like the Zetsu and tailed beast creations
And yes you mentioned that Amateratsu is different but it still has done nothing of significance that I can think of
Amaterasu was nerfed. When we first seen it , it was able to burn through the fire resistant frog belly in secs. Then when we seen it use on sasuke and bee with the heat seeming to be unbearable to them and it was stated to be the hottest fire and strongest fire justu. Then later on Amaterasu had a slow burn effect which it didn’t have before as raikage was just standing there without getting burned alive. It also only worked only on fodder which shouldn’t be the case but it is.
Basically all ohk Justu only work on fodder in Naruto. Like tsuikage particle release, kamui and so on
@TheSpectacularRevenant samurai are more durable that the toads?
Another reason that a lot of really powerful jutsu isn’t that effective is because Naruto mainly focuses on the high level important fights when there are other times when there are normal people fighting
Amateratsu was the breaking point for fire jutsus
_Having a superior form of fire, meant regular fire was doomed to never be lethal ever again_
Amateratsu should have been a skillful application of fire, instead of a superior power, something like an endless stream of small explosive fireballs
Madara :"Fire jutsus aren't weak, their users are."
I think part of the reason why is because fire isn't really meant to kill but to hurt. It is meant to provide dps. Just as earth style isn't meant to kill but is mostly used for utility. It is the way it is as in most games as well.
Only time it was ever useful was
Madara’s majestic destroy flame
Converting it to ash
Toad oil combination
And inferno style
Amaterasu doesn’t even matter at this point because everyone and their mothers can absorb or just easily block it
The real fire style were the paperbombs we made along the way
The problem is how are they gonna make it so if u get hit by this u don’t die? So they constantly make it either miss or get countered by an absorbstion or something
Damage reduction? Fire retardant clothes. Make it hurt a little. Ooh quick little super fire balls that simulate planting your hand on a lit stove.
Hair tracking fire! No one wants to fight that.
The problem with fire is how to make it damage without being permanent. Fire can only burn, and burns are permanent. Water can impact or pierce or cut, same with wind. Earth impacts. Lighting damage is just "overall" damage. With fire, either you damage or you dont, and if you do, then its permanent and very bad, so they chose to not damage.
Kashin Koji in Boruto used fire style to kill Victor, a Kara Inner with extremely powerful regenerative ability with fire too strong for him to regenerate and he also killed the body of Jigen by summoning fire from Mount Myoboko
@dygoknight doesn't consider it canon even though it is canon.
Now imagine A’s Lighting armor only it’s Fire : it’d be amazing both at offense and defense as it would , logically, burn your opponent whenever you’re touched and if you went to ‘extreme heat’ it’d melt projectiles. Also we have Kashin’s never-ending flame in Boruto. The author simply lacked imagination when designing Fire jutsu as different techniques only changed the shape of the fire.
Well A’s punches while coated in his armor will one shot any average person and even strong people without regenerative abilities
The Kage are very strong, it’s just they fought end game levels of power and rightfully so since only they have a chance to stand up to them
The fire Jiraiya used did do massive damage to Manda, making Manda have to shed his skin is actually forcing him to use a very taxing regen move so I don't get the downplay there
I think the problem is that fire should be much more devastating causing burn scars, bubbling skin and ear-piercing screams of agony, villages destroyed by the stray fire from shinobi fights. That wouldn't get approved for airing, so they decided to ignore that entirely.
Only person to get hurt by fire style was Asuma, and even then it only crippled him a bit 🤣
The only way to make fire better realistically is just to make it hotter and to make water more powerful is to increase its pressure when it's released, lightning is the most powerful energy force in nature that isn't like the tectonic plates shifting so it makes sense that lightning is so much more powerful than other elements and wind is so powerful because it can cut at the cellular level like we saw with the Rasenshuriken which I know is also with the Rasengan but if you make the blades of wind much smaller and focus on a single point it would have the same effect and I guess Kishimoto gave Amaterasu to Sasuke as an evolution to fire as it's really the only way to make fire actually dangerous is to give it the properties Sasuke had with it because if everyone had a more powerful fire style like Amaterasu it would be OP as fvck like particle style is with Ohnoki
Cause they are afraid to show people being burned on screen
Then we have One piece were people are getting packed up and dog walked when fire hits them.
When does the next part of Naruto Rewrite come out?
Hopefully tomorrow
LESSSSGOOOOI
Fire in real life: I am destruction, anything I touch will reduce it to ashes.
Fire in shonen anime: halp there's a drop of water :'(
Fire in real life doesn't work like that either lol
@@longusmitchell9898no buts it’s a lot more dangerous and deadly
@@jasonmoukala8909anime too. Yamamoto bankai and kashin koji true samadhi fire
If you wanna see a ninja actually doing some damage with fire then watch Hell's Paradise. Fire style jutsu is Gabimaru's bread and butter
"Fire is kinda useless in shonen anime"
Roy Mustang wants to know your location
Well in my hero Academia, fire actually does something. Dabi, Endeavor, and Todoroki all use fire and it has done damage. Especially in the case of Endeavor.
There isn't single strong fire type jutsu
Fire style:Water mist :😶
The funny thing is that in Avatar, we almost never see someone get directly struck or burnt by firebending on-screen. However, firebending manages to remain relatively intimidating because first, like you said, it's the main weapon of the main antagonists. And second because even if the fire attacks don't hit the enemy, they often force several named characters to go on the defensive.
Rock walls get exploded, water and ice barriers get melted or evaporated through, and the wielders of all other elements have to spend so much energy just NOT getting hit by the flames that they get less chances to strike back.
The mere that Zuko has a massive burn scar on his face serves as a reminder that yes, people do get burnt and permanently scarred by fire. And the few times main characters get directly hit by it are momentous. Iron getting blasted in the chest by Azula, Aang accidentally burning Katara's hands, and Azula literally killing Aang with a shot in the back. That was technically lightning, but it falls under the same element umbrella in that universe, and is pure destruction just like normal fire.
There's a way to do this that doesn't require people getting vaporized left and right, but Kishimoto just didn't nail it.
Remember Avatar is a kids show on Nickelodeon
Ishiki is hilariously the only main villain or character to die to fire , and it wasn't even a very destructive fire attack, he died to REGULAR FIRE
Wasn't it Jigen who died to the summoning fire jutsu by Koji?
Remember Obitos Bomb Blast Wave jutsu that was really cool as fuck and seemed like a crazy fire style jutsu and Naruto just kind of waved it away like it didn't matter?
why did this pop up when i searched “zuko vs azula agni kai”
Shinobis uses fire style often as a set up because it’s an easy distraction of how often large and chaotic it is but it’s never lethal to be used as a finishing move.
"Fire in anime just isn't all that powerful."
Yamamoto: BAN KAI
Also love the "retcon" in Boruto where fire jutsu aren't ACTUALLY fire and absorption doesn't work on ACTUAL fire lmao
Fire was originally sasukes main ability, but then they had to give him the chidori because they realized how useless his fire would have to be in the future in order to have a good story. 💀💀. Still I think sasuke uses fire more than lightning if I’m being honest but it almost always misses. Such as a shame cuz dragon flame jutsu is one of the coolest jutsu of all time, same with Amaterasu.
I guess Kishimoto's problem could be summarized as fire being too dangerous. A water dragon, a boulder or a wind bullet? You can have a character get hit by that and they get knocked back/down. Explain the missing broken bones with chakra reinforcement. Fire doesn't do that. Fire has no force, it just burns. You can't have a character get hit by fire without them taking at least some visible damage from it. So every fire style that is not supposed to be a deciding factor can't be allowed to hit at all.
I'm not saying that it couldn't have been handled better, I just think that was the reason.
“And anime in general, Fire is kinda useless”
*Laughs in Zanka No Tachi*
Fire is useless for the same reason why kunai and shuriken are useless. There are simply too effective and it would be very anticlimactic if such effective weapons easily killed powerful and skilled opponents.
I don’t think fire is weak i just think every ninja knows how to counter it with their own ninjutsu or chakra cloaks
0:00 "Fire powers is useless in shonen animes"
Meanwhile Roy Mustang: "What's it like having the fluids inside of your eyes boil? I'd imagine it might sting a little."
Honestly my experience with the chackra natures are:
Lightning: Literally the most powerfull one and the most versatile one. Chidori.
Water: Next to nobody uses it. Tbh this is the biggest neglect of the chackra natures imo bcs its either: Big squirt and maybe a dragon or a shark.
Earth: Big chonkus defends. Big walls. Defense. Did i mentioned defense already?
Air: Rasen Shuriken. That's it. Also very sharp, but then again so is Lightning.
Fire: this video.
A fireball that doesn't explode or last long isn't doing much if a person isn't remaining in it long term, or be doused in something readily flammable. Look at that MythBusters episode on flash cooking shrimp, the shrimp could even flying through a forge fire and still wasn't cooked, time is a very important part to burn damage, until you ramp up the temperature a lot, especially when your dealing with a medium that will rapidly disperse the heat like air.
Also their clearly using low temperature flames, since their red/yellow/orange, instead of violet, blue, and white.
Then lets face it the 3 first things you'd try and make a shinobi uniform resistant to are fire and slashing/stabbing, with water resistance a 3rd, but more so you don't get bogged down by rain.
Being so used to see fire style jutsu fail, i actually got scared as a kid when i saw kakuzu use searing migraine to burn a random shinobi
You gotta admit, watching someone suffer/DIE from immolation would be rather gruesome. I'm not sure that would make a hype scene from a writing perspective.
how funny when in the land of Fire, most jutsu there isn't fire.
It would have been cool if the chakra system actually was utilized like pokemon stats since it resembles that whole One element counters the other, etc. Also, personal opinion, if every ninja could just use basic techniques with every chakra nature but not the more advanced techniques because it's not their nature, then that could have made the utility of fire jutsu and other elemental jutsus more prominent, kind of like using fire jutsu to start campfires, smoke cigarettes, make markings, make smoke, etc. The only exceptions are wood, ice, the special ones. Those would be able to utilize the two chakra natures that are connected to their jutsu style. But understandably, it is easier to keep track of what characters can do when their powers are more limited. Still, as Dygo said, it would have been better if someone got affected by a fire style jutsu more than simply tanking it or having not a single singe.
It's kinda like why a shapeshifter becomes a T-Rex, you never see them eating and biting people, but tailwhips.
Roy Mustang sitting like a Chad in his office chair watching this video
i think you forgot to mention- fire is too cliche now
getting burned to death is boring and has been done many times already
also if an important character gets burned to death, its not a great way to kill off a character
0:05 ''Fire is kinda useless''
meanwhile Yamamoto's Bankai literally almost ending Soul Society by simply existing
Natsu's fire literally burning through time
and Benimaru's flames scaling to Adolla
The only time firestyle did real world like damage was when Edo Asuma used Burning Ash vs some random soldiers during the war arc, who got fried to a crisp.
Fire style jobs because it's too dangerous and strong. If you get properly hit with it at all, it's effects are permanently debilitating to deadly. Especially amaterasu. So it's not gonna do much to main characters.
It's the same reason why wolverine jobs. Those claws can only do permanent lethal damage. So 9/10 he's gonna get ko'ed by a punch so the story and characters can move on uninhibited
Sage art: storm release being fire that is compressed: I feel offended
So we're just to forget about Scorch Release and how it turned not only plant life but people into dehydrated mummies in an instant
That's not fire release
@@DygoKnight it has fire release me xed with it and is indeed fire itself when used. No different from Blaze Release
Yeah it happens alot in fiction my guess is that since fire does such disfiguring damage authors hold back on it so everyone isnt walking around with melting flesh