I have a Ford Mondeo Mk5 2016 2.0 TDCi BiTurbo 210 bhp estate. The model only comes with a Power-shift gear box. My local Ford dealer in Devon charged me £356.54 just to change the gear box Oil. You have now reassured me that the Oil is very expensive..I thought I was just being ripped off , but appears just only now on the Labour. Thanks for a great video..
My Powershift Mondeo developed a fault with the gear changed. In the south of France. And refused to change. 3weeks later after getting it back I found a gearbox specialist that collected my car. A full strip down, new solenoids were needed as the plastic spacers on the clutch had broken. £3500 later the car was back and drive like new. That was 3 years ago and she has been perfect since. Now going to changer the filter and oil as it’s every 30k or 3 years what ever comes first. Also when the box is removed it needs to be coded back to the car. You are right it is a very complicated gearbox but when looked after is silky smooth to drive and don’t even feel the hear change and yes it’s very quick on the change. Keep up the good work bud.
Huge thanks for doing this video bud! It's saved me about £450 for a so called auto-box service. Bought the oil/filter for £115 & did it myself & took about 2hrs. Saved me lots thank you! 👌🤟🤙. . .
Hi Alan, I have a ford C-Max Titanium 64 Reg 2014 Automatic Gearbox. I would like to change the gear box oil and filter please? How much is it cost to change it and where are you based? Thanks
Followed your instructions and changed the oil on a 2014 C Max 2.0 TDI which went perfectly. Car did have a gear change issue but the new oil and a reset of the engine light resulted in smooth gear change and a happy father 😀
Excellent video. I have a MK4 Mondeo with Powershift and had no problems with the transmission so far. First class mechanics and a beautiful woman. What a wonderful combination. Keep the videos coming.
hate the power shift box your right what you say about the correct oil if you use the wrong typeit makes the plastic spacers disintergrate in the clutch pack making the car judder and the plastic magnet holders on the selecor forks to brake away and the car dosnt know what gear it is in. what i would sugest and i know its expensive but get a box service kit from ford they come with the back seal for the oil filter housing that is bolted to the side of the box and replacement bolts and gaskets for the mechatronic unit so you can clean the swarf from the selector magnets runs like a dream after. the reason for going through the gears befor hand is it puts the box in service mode opening all the solenoidsalowing the oil to compleatly drain. you do the same after as it will purge the air from the system and take it out off service mode. its the same prosses when changing the clutch pack
Thanks for that info, I got Ford to do a warranty gearbox job on a Mk3 Galaxy after a small claims victory, proved in court that the wrong oil was used.
@@davyarthurs There are 2 types of Powershift. A dry clutch and a wet clutch box. The wet clutch are the ones which are more reliable and what is shown in this video. The dry clutch is the source of most problems.
The power shift gearbox is the worst gearbox ford ever made it shit on descent powershift gearbox is the generation 2 gearbox the generation 1 gearbox is shit
I'd just like to say that it's very refreshing to find a video where this oil change is done correctly!. Good work. Volvo recommend 40c temp for the drain and oil level setting (same gearbox 6DCT450 / MPS6).
I've got this gearbox in my M5 2016. I'm about to service it for second time. To change oil in gearbox I was told to do it every 3 years but because of the cost to replace gearbox if it went wrong. I change oil every 2 years when I do engine oil and filter.
Same engine and gearbox inside a Ford Galaxy, I do the gearbox oil change every 20k miles . Its the tiny metal filings that go into the mechantronic solenoid valves that cause the issue of a faulty gearbox. Changing the oil earlier resolves this problem.
Great video, thanks Alan. Just changed the oil and filter on our S-Max auto, found it almost impossible to access the filter (and the retention clip) without taking the nsf wheel and liner off, but straightforward other than that thanks to you. Cheers!
When I was a service advisor at Ford it used to be £350 for the gearbox service every 3rd service which was 300 aswell . About 1 in 5 people actually spent the money and had it done
Have a 2016 180ps with powershift. Love it. Only had 1 issue where it would go into "limp mode" under heavy load. Turned out to be an oil sensor on the gearbox (changed under warrenty). This is my 1st owned auto and will never go back to manual, I tow with it and its superb. Though I had a VW passet 2012 DSG for a week and hated every minute of that.
Did this job myself on my driveway,same colour car,ink blue titx 2013. I used Morris oil and filter using old housing,grand total about 70 quid. Use it for taxiing about 600/700 miles a week,now on 135k and still drives like a new car,so I've been told.
Yup mines in on the 28th for a service 2010 titanium x sport and for me personally i have nothing but praise for the car and its been looked after by the original owner and by myself so its had a lot of love, change ur gearbox oil and filter etc every 30k miles and treat ur car with respect and it'll look aftet you.
Not a bad gearbox when its working although a read through various sites and forums on the internet might just put you off.Like most automatic gearboxes it will need regular servicing which most owners seem to neglect getting done and is often over looked due to expensive parts (mainly the cost of the oil)
Hi Alan, Thanks for this detailed explanation. I have got a Ford Mondeo 2014 Titanium model (Diesel). Car jerks and stalls during gear change. Your video has provided me a good place to start.
Thanks to you man just saved few hundred bucks My mondeo 2014 mechanics running away like crazy Ooo dual clutch very hard to change oil go to ford which charge double,i did exactly how you done yours and got car which flying now Way better Big thanks
It's not such a bad job but info is a bit scarce. There's a good volvo manual out there that tells you all about temps and gives you a bit more detail. Of course the award winning Badgertronix video on the powershift service covers all this 🤣🤣
Live in France and use local garage who does not want to do this job. hate the idea of going to Ford but might have to. Re the box, great. Just towed large caravan round Spain and Portugal, 3,000 miles with only one problem. 2 hours continuous driving including lot of hills at approx 55 mph, then turn off and immediately a 1 in 16 ramp up to campsite. car stopped and warning message "transmission overheating". waited a minute or so and proceeded slowly up the hill. No other problems but smell of hot oil that lingers, hence need to change oil. car has 95,000 miles on clock and don`t think oil has ever been changed. Good car, good gearbox. Hope that when time comes my sister-in-law will buy me another.
I run a 2011 S-Max same engine and gearbox. Had the car 6 years. Local Ford Stealers will charge anything from £250 -£400 for the service, I pay £250 obviously but will probably do it myself now after seeing the video! Ford recommend servicing the powershift every 37,500 miles or three years. My car is coming up for 110,000 miles. You know when the oil needs changing as the clutches start to slip to the point where every change is an issue and in gear acceleration is met with major slippage, change the oil and the car is beautiful and smooth again, I love it and have no complaints, I also tow with it and again it’s fantastic. I would definitely have another. Thanks for the video 👍
Hi Graeme, thanks for this comment. This/these seem to be my issues. Mainly in 1st and 2nd at the moment but suspect it'll get worse the longer it's left. Certain I don't have any leaks so must just be wear and tear. Have owned the vehicle since 119,000 and now on 142,000 with no evidence it's (outbox oil and filter) never been changed. Just ordered the same kit that's in the video for £112. Just a case of trying to figure out how to get the car jacked up and level to carry out the drain and re-fill.
Done the same job on a C max today Alan could only get genuine Ford, absolutely extortionate price, would not have taken the job on without your vid, cheers Alan
watched your auto gearbox oil change and found it very easy to do myself, mine as 7 lt of oil for the vignale and got my oil and filters etc from Ford Germany at £140 all in P+P, took 3 days and its Ford parts, also changed the engine oil etc. great and Hi to Mrs M LOL
Thanks Alan for the video. Seems like a simple job to do especially if you’re lucky enough to have hoist. Would be a much tougher job to do at home is think.
@@TheReecebob I agree. When I first bought the car (second hand) there was no history of a gearbox oil change. I had the first one done at a ford dealer because of the garentee I had. The guy there said every 37000 miles.since then I've done them myself (2)
I’ve Done this twice now Best to use the Volvo service techniques for this dct it tells you the transmission temps etc Mine started to shudder at 44000 km so I just do it at 40000km intervals instead of the recommendation Of 60000 with a genuine ford Filter kit plus Reputable dct oil that has the correct ford specs
I have a 2010 focus with the same powershift, I must say the best transmission on a budget car. My only advice, change the trans oil before 60k km. You will find it will last quite a long time.
Just had my Auto Box oil changed at the very same Garage and great service along with superb price..need to do some miles now. Gotta say i do love the Auto box such a pleasure to drive.
Thanks Alan, did mine earlier and your video came in properly handy. Took 6L to fill after the level check, which did make me question why i got more that 7 litres of filthy oil out !
Ha ha. Loved Monika's impression of a dolphin, fabulous. As for making the customers pocket lighter, surely thats just to help improve the fuel economy (Less weight means less fuel used etc)
Another great video! Wet clutch Powershift gearbox are fine if serviced at correct interval but dry clutch Powershift gearbox are not great. Suffer from clutch shudder, jerky pull away etc. Only in Fiesta and Focus petrol I believe
I’m going to do this at home on the weekend but I only have front wheel ramps to get the car up how do I do the last bit leveling out the oil with the car not level on a ramp? Thanks appreciate the video
Hi Alan as a long time subscriber of your channel and especially after watching this video I rang your garage to book my newly acquired 2017 Fiesta in for a powershift gearbox service, only to be told that "we don't get involved with that and you need to go to a main dealer". Great.......
for future reference Bristol transmissions are doing mine soon for £225 on a 2010 mondeo, get it done every 30k miles and yhe box should'nt let you down.
Ford had put 7L in at 120000 km which i had no idea i started having transmission limited happening at now 180000 dumped the 7 put 6.1 in and best its ever ran dont put 7L in these I feel alot of the problems stem from incorrect transmission oil amounts and wrong type of oil and i would like to say thanks for the video saved me having someone else doing the same thing.
Thanks mate. The info level check was what I was wondering about. I have only had some shuddering in first gear on a slight incline, a software update fixed it. It’s getting a bit thumpy now so I’m going to put some Redline Oil in to try and improve the shifting.
Sounds as though you like any colour Mondeo except red as you are fed up with red ones. I got my mk5 after having a blue hire one for a weekend, I wanted a red estate, wife wanted a blue hatchback, the compromise is that we have a metalic red (ruby red) titanium x hatchback :)
I’ve got an Octavia 2.0 tdi DSG taxi, Skoda recommend changing the transmission oil and filter every 40k but I’ve always stuck to 30k due to the stop start journeys. They also take 6 litres but it’s a fixed price of £189 from the actual dealer for parts and labour
Good video Alan... 👍 I have a Mondeo sports 11 plate 2ltr Diesel Automatic with 80,000 miles...Bought the car a few months ago and noticed when under load i.e. going uphill the Rev counter used to ‘twitch’. Read local forums that suggested lowTransmission oil can cause this. So I had the Transmission oil and Filter changed and now it’s fine. Could OLD Transmission oil have caused this OR LOW Transmission oil, in which case does that mean I have a slow leak do you think?..... 🤔. Steve.
Hi Alan, great video as every one you make. I have a 2014 Ford Galaxy 2 ecoboost and I'm also about to change the pewershift oil. Great tutorial. I just don't like the dirty gloves on the steering wheel and gear lever. I always take them off so I don't dirty the car inside and reach the dirty steering wheel from the oil :-) but great video as always. You are the best
Have the same gearbox and engine in my focus. The oil is expensive like hell. I must agree there is not much info on service requirements of these boxes. Recommended Service intervals range from 60 000 km to don't worry it is lifetime oil (I assume they hope you get rid off it early enough) did mine at 240 000 km first time and looked brand new the oil
I also have a 2.0 TDCI Mondeo Estate with the powershift gearbox. I do my own oil changes and I'm also disabled. (hence the auto box)... I love the Powershift transmission... Plus I love the Ford Mondeo Estate. I just don't know how I'm going to cope with an Electric car when the time comes. They are not big enough like the Mondeo Estate. Plus You CAN NOT Tow a Trailer with an Electric shoebox. So I will be servicing and keeping my Mondeos on the road with the 6 speed Powershift Gearbox until the Government come and drag my beloved Ford from my cold dead hands after 2030. Long Live the Ford Mondeo.
Morning Alan and Monica from the Irish Sea lol 😆 I’m just waiting to berth in Belfast and watching this video 😄 Always great viewing until the next time see ya 👋 Stevie 😎
I was about to do the same as per this tutorial but I noticed oil leaking from the bell housing so sent it in to the dealer and turns out it was the seals were stuffed and needed replacement so had that done and a service
My dad had a Galaxy with the Powershift - 100k miles in 5 years without issue. It's now a London taxi on 230k miles, I can only assume still no issues :) Now got a Powershift C-max - So nice to drive!
Got my Mondeo since March 2019, I Love it! First I wanted a german car but considering the cost of running such a car I choose Ford and I am happily surprised!
@@frenchyxvi1698 I'm after a Titanium X sport estate in white, I'm very picky. I wasn't sure if I should go for the auto or not, I just don't like the idea of a DCT.
I remember the first time I saw a Figaro and I was struck at what a great little car it looked. Nissan certainly boobed by not selling it over here. As for electric cars, I was watching Trucking Hell on Freeview the other night and a brand new electric/hybrid/whatever Audi caught fir on the back of a car transporter. When they got it back to the yard the recovery company had to submerge it in a skip full of water for a week because the batteries have a habit of going unstable and may explode!
The Powershift transmission on these Mondeos/Kugas (6DCT450) aren’t the problem. The ones Ford had problems with are ones fitted to the Fiesta, Focus, Ecosport, BMax,(6DCT250) up to 2016. They had dry clutch packs and people who where used to driving automatics were driving them like torque converter autos and letting them creep along and holding them in Drive on hills. This made the clutch packs get hot and burn out almost like riding a manual clutch in a manual car. As the clutch packs got seriously hot the drive input seals would get hot and perish allowing gearbox oil to leak onto the clutch packs making them slip and eventually destroying them. The gears boxes are not made by Ford but a German company called Getrag, who make transmissions for other manufacturers.
The many people I've seen with issues with these in mondeos would beg to differ. Its a daily thing to see someone with powershift issues in the mondeo pages I'm on, on Facebook
My mrs has a focus 2.0 tdci powershift, full ford history 140k miles and no gearbox issues, gearbox oil change on that cost between £260- £280, however my mothers 2.0 EcoBoost titanium x sport mondeo is on 120k with no issues, gearbox did get serviced with incorrect oil by an independent tho and started juddering, oil was changed again at ford at a cost of £360 and its fine.....have to shop around with the ford dealers as costs vary it seams
I have the same gearbox. 1 change mine every 3 years or thirty thousand miles. Total bill for parts for engine oil filter Derv filter. gear box oil and filter. O rings. Cost £280.00 from fords. For fords to do the full service was going to be over £700.00 pounds. I found doing the job my self was easy but I did have a pit I could use.
@@Dorngrunder hello. Has it was the first time I I've change the oil I got it from ford's garage. It did cost more from them but new I was getting the right stuff. I found it easy to change using a pit.
Used to be a time when a gearbox (auto or manual) would easily outlast the rest of the car. Something that deeply offends the insatiable corporate greed. So it was deemed necessary to redesign the oh so simple gearbox to create an insanely complicated new kind of gearbox that could be relied upon to fail regularly and thus generate a continous revenue stream. Just like all those engines with EGR on them, another guaranteed multiple engine failure revenue generating system (which can be rectified with the fitting of a simple and cheap oil carch can, somthing that no car manfacturer supplies or fits). I wouldnt have a modern car if it was free.
There's a much simpler way to check the oil level and is probably more accurate. As with any automatic box, pour your oil in and start the engine and leave it in park and fill until it reaches the level, that way the hydraulic circuits are already primed. I typically find they need about 7.5 litres for a service, I wouldn't rely on the amounts drained to be an indicator as I've seen plenty with hardly any come out! When they work these 'boxes are lovely and smooth to drive, however they're far from reliable due to poor design of the clutch pack which fail - hence the nickname "powersh!ts" 🤣
So yes the powershifts have got such a bad rep that ford have had lawsuits and had to extend the warranty up to 10 years in some countries, only 5 in the UK. From what I've read it appears that the majority of faults were in the dry clutch versions fitted to the fiesta and focus models with the Mondeo having the wet clutch version. I think ford started fitting traditional torque converter auto boxes in the focus from 2016 onwards and also in the Mondeo from fairly recently. I believe the wet clutch ones are generally more reliable than the dry ones as long as they are maintained properly but still a complicated bit of kit.
I don't wonder that at all. I have one of the last torque converter automatics on my diesel mk4 and it's driven almost 600k km's. Still seems to work just fine. I'm bit surprised actually as I haven't seen too many oil changes made to it by previous owners.
@@jothain Wow 600km! that's impressive. I also stumbled across a useful site on the Powershift transmissions .... axleaddict.com/cars/Powershift-Automatic-Transmission-Faults
Hi Alan, nice video, congrats! I'm just wondering: Besides the external "cylindrical" filter, what about the internal Filter? Shouldn't that one also be replaced? Kind regards.
Hi Alan, did you have chance to work with 8F35 transmission, did this have the same external fluid filter or is an internal one? what is the recommended service interval for automatic transmission fluid? Thanks and good luck !
Oil is shared between the clutches and the gearbox. All the crap in the filter and the oil is clutch wear. If you don’t change the oil the box will fail. Just change it!!
Hi Alan. I would like to buy a Mondeo mk5 2.0tdci 110kv 2015 with 140,000km. ! Can you tell me what I should pay attention to when inspecting before buying, do you advise me an automatic transmission or manual? Thank you
Thanks for this amazing video. Really informative. I have a Ford Mondeo 2011 which hits sometimes at the first gear and reverse. And when coming to a stop. It changes gears smoothly otherwise. What do you think the problem is? I have already changed oil and filter but did not really help.
Jadder at 1st to 2nd gear is a common behaviour with PS boxes. Check how old is your battery. If battery cant hold the voltage the gearbox will jadder between 1-2. Please dont ask me why. This is the cheapest you can check before you start spending money on crazy expensive components.
Alan, have you had any bad manual mk4 transmissions in your shop? The synch went bad on my 1.6 tdci Mondeo at 180.000km. It would occasionally pop out of 2nd after clutch release. Had to get a new gearbox, because this is supposedly a common fault on the Fords?
Mmmmmm.....Miss M..... That looked a nice car and I enjoyed the video! I used to have a Citroen with an EGS box. That required many brave pills and when they ran out, I sold the car!😂 That was a gearbox with a reputation....😖 Anyway, thanks for the vid👍👍👍
Hi and thank youfor all the videos👏. I have a ford mondeo mk4 with the powershift. Iam thinking 🤔 to change the oil myself but I just have one problem the floor in my garage a bit incline so the car is not level. So iam wondering if i measure how many litres I get out and put exactly the same with out checking the level will that work or not? Iam thankful for the help.
A very informative tutorial. Thank you for your advice, most helpful. Just hope it works. I'm getting warning display on the dashboard, transmission limited, hopefully a gearbox and filter oil change shall rectify the issue. Just one question what is the model of the meyle kit that you used? I currently drive a 13 plate Titaniumx X BS.
Hi alan thanks for the great video's you do I wonder if you could do some video's on the recalls as you are running a fleet of mk5 mondeos. With several recalls so I guess your company as had a few . Sump breach.battery monitor sensors would be of interest. Thanks
I have the same gearbox in my Mondeo MK4 and have just changed the gearbox oil and filter today. I noticed in the back chamber the oil was clear like new and the oil in the front chamber was really black. Do you think the something wrong with the oil pump? Love your videos 👍
Hey Alan a very good vid again! Thank you ! Can you tell us a bit more about why the 2litre Diesel TDCi engine that is used on the Focus MK3 and Mondeo MK5 has DPF issues and is deleting and removing the DPF the right choise? Is it the style of driving, short runs , fuel qallity or else and how do you deal with this issue. I have the 1.6 TDCi Focus MK3 and never got anny issue but want to get the 2ltr 163 bhp one as next vehicle...... Cheers !
It should be revised version from 2017 and later. First versions of PowerShift 6dct450 have plastic guides on springs inside flywheel. Once plastic becomes brittle, it goes in flakes and mechatronic unit is fucked up. Not cheap to repair PS: 2017 gasoline Mondeo doesn't have PowerShift Getrag, it has classic torque converter, which is better. Diesels still have DSG style Getrag, but shouldn't have the same issues as first revision, since flywheel is outside of gearbox, so plastic can't contaminate gearbox oil
Is this the DCT450? I plan to do the oil change on my Focus Mk3. Can you please put a link for the oil? I have found a kit but i want to be sure i buy the correct stuff. Or only the specification is necessary ( WSS-M2C936-A)? Thanks a lot!
Hey, I'm pretty sure it is. The filter I bought is the same one that he has in this video. MK4 2.0 diesel has the same transmission and engine as the MK3 Focus 2.0 diesel. I bought the Penrite DCT fluid which says it means Ford spec Ford M2C936-A. I'm yet to actually do the service, just getting as much info as possible before I attempt.
Hi sir, can't see where is the location of the filter... mybe you have their ford focus 2.0 tdci please make a video how to changce the transmission oil... many of my friends in group will be happy to watch you... pls reply and let us know if you can sir... god bless...
Can you help please Alan . Need to do gear box a oil change. My 2010 Mondeo 2.0L Titanium x sports auto box either has Mercon V or LV, i cannot find a identify number , the vin doesn't help. Mike
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I have a Ford Mondeo Mk5 2016 2.0 TDCi BiTurbo 210 bhp estate. The model only comes with a Power-shift gear box. My local Ford dealer in Devon charged me £356.54 just to change the gear box Oil. You have now reassured me that the Oil is very expensive..I thought I was just being ripped off , but appears just only now on the Labour. Thanks for a great video..
My Powershift Mondeo developed a fault with the gear changed. In the south of France. And refused to change. 3weeks later after getting it back I found a gearbox specialist that collected my car. A full strip down, new solenoids were needed as the plastic spacers on the clutch had broken. £3500 later the car was back and drive like new. That was 3 years ago and she has been perfect since. Now going to changer the filter and oil as it’s every 30k or 3 years what ever comes first. Also when the box is removed it needs to be coded back to the car. You are right it is a very complicated gearbox but when looked after is silky smooth to drive and don’t even feel the hear change and yes it’s very quick on the change.
Keep up the good work bud.
Huge thanks for doing this video bud! It's saved me about £450 for a so called auto-box service.
Bought the oil/filter for £115 & did it myself & took about 2hrs. Saved me lots thank you! 👌🤟🤙. . .
well done for having a go yourself
Hi Alan, I have a ford C-Max Titanium 64 Reg 2014 Automatic Gearbox. I would like to change the gear box oil and filter please? How much is it cost to change it and where are you based? Thanks
@@alan4xhi Alan,
Followed your instructions and changed the oil on a 2014 C Max 2.0 TDI which went perfectly. Car did have a gear change issue but the new oil and a reset of the engine light resulted in smooth gear change and a happy father 😀
that's great news, cheers
Excellent video. I have a MK4 Mondeo with Powershift and had no problems with the transmission so far. First class mechanics and a beautiful woman. What a wonderful combination. Keep the videos coming.
hate the power shift box your right what you say about the correct oil if you use the wrong typeit makes the plastic spacers disintergrate in the clutch pack making the car judder and the plastic magnet holders on the selecor forks to brake away and the car dosnt know what gear it is in. what i would sugest and i know its expensive but get a box service kit from ford they come with the back seal for the oil filter housing that is bolted to the side of the box and replacement bolts and gaskets for the mechatronic unit so you can clean the swarf from the selector magnets runs like a dream after. the reason for going through the gears befor hand is it puts the box in service mode opening all the solenoidsalowing the oil to compleatly drain. you do the same after as it will purge the air from the system and take it out off service mode. its the same prosses when changing the clutch pack
Great bit of advice there Tony.
Thanks for that info, I got Ford to do a warranty gearbox job on a Mk3 Galaxy after a small claims victory, proved in court that the wrong oil was used.
Hence I guess why they get called Powersh1t Box... However, I think this owner has been very lucky with his g-box
@@davyarthurs There are 2 types of Powershift. A dry clutch and a wet clutch box. The wet clutch are the ones which are more reliable and what is shown in this video. The dry clutch is the source of most problems.
@@Dark-qx8rk how did you found is the wet one version? i have a 2011 S60 volvo
Perfectly explained....world needs more people like you.
Got a titanium x sport powershift brilliant gearbox so smooth never go back to a manual just have them maintained properly no short cuts.
The power shift gearbox is the worst gearbox ford ever made it shit on descent powershift gearbox is the generation 2 gearbox the generation 1 gearbox is shit
I'd just like to say that it's very refreshing to find a video where this oil change is done correctly!. Good work.
Volvo recommend 40c temp for the drain and oil level setting (same gearbox 6DCT450 / MPS6).
I have a V40 with Powershift, what is the best oil?
@@eufanca any DCT fluid will do.
They are expensive!
@@eufanca Castrol Transmax Dual
I've got this gearbox in my M5 2016. I'm about to service it for second time. To change oil in gearbox I was told to do it every 3 years but because of the cost to replace gearbox if it went wrong. I change oil every 2 years when I do engine oil and filter.
Same engine and gearbox inside a Ford Galaxy, I do the gearbox oil change every 20k miles . Its the tiny metal filings that go into the mechantronic solenoid valves that cause the issue of a faulty gearbox. Changing the oil earlier resolves this problem.
Great video, thanks Alan. Just changed the oil and filter on our S-Max auto, found it almost impossible to access the filter (and the retention clip) without taking the nsf wheel and liner off, but straightforward other than that thanks to you. Cheers!
thank you
Power shift gearbox is fine providing you regularly change the oil. Great information Alan and love the drama from the offset.
cheers billy
No it’s not. Guaranteed to fail. Just call any breakers that have them
When I was a service advisor at Ford it used to be £350 for the gearbox service every 3rd service which was 300 aswell . About 1 in 5 people actually spent the money and had it done
yes.. the beautiful Miss M,my day is now complete(oh and great video)
Have a 2016 180ps with powershift. Love it. Only had 1 issue where it would go into "limp mode" under heavy load. Turned out to be an oil sensor on the gearbox (changed under warrenty).
This is my 1st owned auto and will never go back to manual, I tow with it and its superb. Though I had a VW passet 2012 DSG for a week and hated every minute of that.
Did this job myself on my driveway,same colour car,ink blue titx 2013. I used Morris oil and filter using old housing,grand total about 70 quid. Use it for taxiing about 600/700 miles a week,now on 135k and still drives like a new car,so I've been told.
Did you check the level afterwards or just put 5.5 / 6 litres in ? I’ve heard some people just put in what came out & thats it
I have a Ford Mondeo 2010 and I'm watching all your videos ,great job .Greetings from Romania
thank you cheers
Yup mines in on the 28th for a service 2010 titanium x sport and for me personally i have nothing but praise for the car and its been looked after by the original owner and by myself so its had a lot of love, change ur gearbox oil and filter etc every 30k miles and treat ur car with respect and it'll look aftet you.
Not a bad gearbox when its working although a read through various sites and forums on the internet might just put you off.Like most automatic gearboxes it will need regular servicing which most owners seem to neglect getting done and is often over looked due to expensive parts (mainly the cost of the oil)
Hi Alan,
Thanks for this detailed explanation. I have got a Ford Mondeo 2014 Titanium model (Diesel). Car jerks and stalls during gear change. Your video has provided me a good place to start.
Thanks to you man just saved few hundred bucks
My mondeo 2014 mechanics running away like crazy
Ooo dual clutch very hard to change oil go to ford which charge double,i did exactly how you done yours and got car which flying now
Way better
Big thanks
excellant, cheers
It's not such a bad job but info is a bit scarce. There's a good volvo manual out there that tells you all about temps and gives you a bit more detail. Of course the award winning Badgertronix video on the powershift service covers all this 🤣🤣
lol.... ahhh you own a power shift ... its very rare i see one of those
The video is very educational and I also like the humor on the presentation. Thank you
thanks jordan
Live in France and use local garage who does not want to do this job. hate the idea of going to Ford but might have to. Re the box, great. Just towed large caravan round Spain and Portugal, 3,000 miles with only one problem. 2 hours continuous driving including lot of hills at approx 55 mph, then turn off and immediately a 1 in 16 ramp up to campsite. car stopped and warning message "transmission overheating". waited a minute or so and proceeded slowly up the hill. No other problems but smell of hot oil that lingers, hence need to change oil. car has 95,000 miles on clock and don`t think oil has ever been changed. Good car, good gearbox. Hope that when time comes my sister-in-law will buy me another.
I run a 2011 S-Max same engine and gearbox. Had the car 6 years. Local Ford Stealers will charge anything from £250 -£400 for the service, I pay £250 obviously but will probably do it myself now after seeing the video!
Ford recommend servicing the powershift every 37,500 miles or three years. My car is coming up for 110,000 miles. You know when the oil needs changing as the clutches start to slip to the point where every change is an issue and in gear acceleration is met with major slippage, change the oil and the car is beautiful and smooth again, I love it and have no complaints, I also tow with it and again it’s fantastic. I would definitely have another. Thanks for the video 👍
Hi Graeme, thanks for this comment. This/these seem to be my issues. Mainly in 1st and 2nd at the moment but suspect it'll get worse the longer it's left. Certain I don't have any leaks so must just be wear and tear. Have owned the vehicle since 119,000 and now on 142,000 with no evidence it's (outbox oil and filter) never been changed. Just ordered the same kit that's in the video for £112. Just a case of trying to figure out how to get the car jacked up and level to carry out the drain and re-fill.
Done the same job on a C max today Alan could only get genuine Ford, absolutely extortionate price, would not have taken the job on without your vid, cheers Alan
watched your auto gearbox oil change and found it very easy to do myself, mine as 7 lt of oil for the vignale and got my oil and filters etc from Ford Germany at £140 all in P+P, took 3 days
and its Ford parts, also changed the engine oil etc. great and Hi to Mrs M LOL
Thanks Alan for the video. Seems like a simple job to do especially if you’re lucky enough to have hoist. Would be a much tougher job to do at home is think.
I've had an S Max for 3 years now with the Powershift fitted. Changed the oil every 37000 miles and not had any issues with it. Still very smooth.
Sean Penney that’s a very specific number
@@TheReecebob I agree. When I first bought the car (second hand) there was no history of a gearbox oil change. I had the first one done at a ford dealer because of the garentee I had. The guy there said every 37000 miles.since then I've done them myself (2)
I should add I live in southern Spain. Maybe the oil change schedule here is different due to the high temperatures we have.
Sean Penney I was advised 37,500 or three years by Ford
I’ve Done this twice now
Best to use the Volvo service techniques for this dct it tells you the transmission temps etc
Mine started to shudder at 44000 km so I just do it at 40000km intervals instead of the recommendation
Of 60000 with a genuine ford
Filter kit plus Reputable dct oil that has the correct ford specs
I have a 2010 focus with the same powershift, I must say the best transmission on a budget car. My only advice, change the trans oil before 60k km. You will find it will last quite a long time.
Just had my Auto Box oil changed at the very same Garage and great service along with superb price..need to do some miles now.
Gotta say i do love the Auto box such a pleasure to drive.
Thanks Alan, did mine earlier and your video came in properly handy. Took 6L to fill after the level check, which did make me question why i got more that 7 litres of filthy oil out !
Ha ha. Loved Monika's impression of a dolphin, fabulous. As for making the customers pocket lighter, surely thats just to help improve the fuel economy (Less weight means less fuel used etc)
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Another great video! Wet clutch Powershift gearbox are fine if serviced at correct interval but dry clutch Powershift gearbox are not great. Suffer from clutch shudder, jerky pull away etc. Only in Fiesta and Focus petrol I believe
Fully agree with you 👍
What year are the wet clutch powershift gearboxes installed? Thanks
@@jamesm5744 I believe 2010 onwards depending on models but not 100% sure
@@simonnell9144 Thanks a million
I’m going to do this at home on the weekend but I only have front wheel ramps to get the car up how do I do the last bit leveling out the oil with the car not level on a ramp? Thanks appreciate the video
Hi Alan as a long time subscriber of your channel and especially after watching this video I rang your garage to book my newly acquired 2017 Fiesta in for a powershift gearbox service, only to be told that "we don't get involved with that and you need to go to a main dealer". Great.......
for future reference Bristol transmissions are doing mine soon for £225 on a 2010 mondeo, get it done every 30k miles and yhe box should'nt let you down.
Ford had put 7L in at 120000 km which i had no idea i started having transmission limited happening at now 180000 dumped the 7 put 6.1 in and best its ever ran dont put 7L in these I feel alot of the problems stem from incorrect transmission oil amounts and wrong type of oil and i would like to say thanks for the video saved me having someone else doing the same thing.
Thanks mate. The info level check was what I was wondering about.
I have only had some shuddering in first gear on a slight incline, a software update fixed it. It’s getting a bit thumpy now so I’m going to put some Redline Oil in to try and improve the shifting.
Glad it helped
I have a mk 4 and the powershift is great ,you have to service them on time and you will be fine ,great Vid bud :)
Sounds as though you like any colour Mondeo except red as you are fed up with red ones. I got my mk5 after having a blue hire one for a weekend, I wanted a red estate, wife wanted a blue hatchback, the compromise is that we have a metalic red (ruby red) titanium x hatchback :)
THIS IS THE BEST EXPLAIN VIDEO THX ALOT
Takes the filled plug out, to let gravity in. Priceless comment.
lol
I’ve got an Octavia 2.0 tdi DSG taxi, Skoda recommend changing the transmission oil and filter every 40k but I’ve always stuck to 30k due to the stop start journeys. They also take 6 litres but it’s a fixed price of £189 from the actual dealer for parts and labour
that is cheap AF
Great video. Just what I needed before I start the exact same job on a Focus for the first time. Terrible transmissions!
Good video Alan... 👍 I have a Mondeo sports 11 plate 2ltr Diesel Automatic with 80,000 miles...Bought the car a few months ago and noticed when under load i.e. going uphill the Rev counter used to ‘twitch’. Read local forums that suggested lowTransmission oil can cause this. So I had the Transmission oil and Filter changed and now it’s fine. Could OLD Transmission oil have caused this OR LOW Transmission oil, in which case does that mean I have a slow leak do you think?..... 🤔. Steve.
Hi Alan, great video as every one you make. I have a 2014 Ford Galaxy 2 ecoboost and I'm also about to change the pewershift oil. Great tutorial. I just don't like the dirty gloves on the steering wheel and gear lever. I always take them off so I don't dirty the car inside and reach the dirty steering wheel from the oil :-) but great video as always. You are the best
yeah, naughty me, cheers rudolf
@@alan4x Alan, you are a fighter 👍
You and Monica always fun ,,, Cheers Alan
Have the same gearbox and engine in my focus. The oil is expensive like hell. I must agree there is not much info on service requirements of these boxes. Recommended Service intervals range from 60 000 km to don't worry it is lifetime oil (I assume they hope you get rid off it early enough) did mine at 240 000 km first time and looked brand new the oil
Ford says 60 000. I prefer to change the oil at 50 000.
Good video . Only ever changed the fluid once in my life
The cycling through the gears for 20 seconds at the beginning is it get the oil up to temp so it drains well.
No You wrong
The real reason for it is to move oil from mechatronic unit out
Thanks
I also have a 2.0 TDCI Mondeo Estate with the powershift gearbox. I do my own oil changes and I'm also disabled. (hence the auto box)... I love the Powershift transmission... Plus I love the Ford Mondeo Estate. I just don't know how I'm going to cope with an Electric car when the time comes. They are not big enough like the Mondeo Estate. Plus You CAN NOT Tow a Trailer with an Electric shoebox. So I will be servicing and keeping my Mondeos on the road with the 6 speed Powershift Gearbox until the Government come and drag my beloved Ford from my cold dead hands after 2030.
Long Live the Ford Mondeo.
On a tin-x 2008 you have a switch to turn off The senses so you wouldn’t have to listen to the noise even when doing that gearchange operation
Morning Alan and Monica from the Irish Sea lol 😆 I’m just waiting to berth in Belfast and watching this video 😄 Always great viewing until the next time see ya 👋 Stevie 😎
morning..thank you stevie😜
I was about to do the same as per this tutorial but I noticed oil leaking from the bell housing so sent it in to the dealer and turns out it was the seals were stuffed and needed replacement so had that done and a service
Great video miss these, been offered 2012 focus with a powershift cheap but am very wary of that gearbox
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I had a 2.0 powershift C Max put about 20k a year on it for 6 years never had a problem
My dad had a Galaxy with the Powershift - 100k miles in 5 years without issue. It's now a London taxi on 230k miles, I can only assume still no issues :) Now got a Powershift C-max - So nice to drive!
This is the video I've been waiting for.
I've been looking at Mondeos for ages, I fancy an auto but I'm not sure of the drawbacks.
Got my Mondeo since March 2019, I Love it! First I wanted a german car but considering the cost of running such a car I choose Ford and I am happily surprised!
@@frenchyxvi1698 The MK IV Mondeo is essentially a German car, built in Cologne & I believe mostly designed there.
@@Zerofightervi now I understand why I like this car!
@@frenchyxvi1698 I'm after a Titanium X sport estate in white, I'm very picky.
I wasn't sure if I should go for the auto or not, I just don't like the idea of a DCT.
@@Zerofightervi I have a 2.0 tdi titanium auto estate as a taxi. Had it 9 months, done 28000 miles, car has done 70000. No problems so far 🙂
I remember the first time I saw a Figaro and I was struck at what a great little car it looked. Nissan certainly boobed by not selling it over here. As for electric cars, I was watching Trucking Hell on Freeview the other night and a brand new electric/hybrid/whatever Audi caught fir on the back of a car transporter. When they got it back to the yard the recovery company had to submerge it in a skip full of water for a week because the batteries have a habit of going unstable and may explode!
yeah those batteries dont exactly give confidence ,,like sitting on a grenade🤣
The Powershift transmission on these Mondeos/Kugas (6DCT450) aren’t the problem. The ones Ford had problems with are ones fitted to the Fiesta, Focus, Ecosport, BMax,(6DCT250) up to 2016. They had dry clutch packs and people who where used to driving automatics were driving them like torque converter autos and letting them creep along and holding them in Drive on hills. This made the clutch packs get hot and burn out almost like riding a manual clutch in a manual car. As the clutch packs got seriously hot the drive input seals would get hot and perish allowing gearbox oil to leak onto the clutch packs making them slip and eventually destroying them. The gears boxes are not made by Ford but a German company called Getrag, who make transmissions for other manufacturers.
The many people I've seen with issues with these in mondeos would beg to differ. Its a daily thing to see someone with powershift issues in the mondeo pages I'm on, on Facebook
Ford powershift wet clutch are fine as long as they are maintained properly, which often aren't
Play her a song "monika ach monika dziewczyna ratownika" song
That will please her
Great video l
Sad that I didn't know you earlier
My mrs has a focus 2.0 tdci powershift, full ford history 140k miles and no gearbox issues, gearbox oil change on that cost between £260- £280, however my mothers 2.0 EcoBoost titanium x sport mondeo is on 120k with no issues, gearbox did get serviced with incorrect oil by an independent tho and started juddering, oil was changed again at ford at a cost of £360 and its fine.....have to shop around with the ford dealers as costs vary it seams
Steven King how much does it cost to get serviced by ford? The automatic transmission
@@troytrey from memory it was about £350
Steven King thanks
I read the comments - it seems like most cars in the Uk are manual.
Whereas in Australia - you are hard pressed to find a manual.
Great video! But what`s the part number for this Meyle oil change kit?
Lovely informative video. I'll never do that job myself, but great to watch 👍👍👍👍👍
Hi. While going thru gears are the car wheels in the air or not. Both for draining and filling. Thnx a bunch.
Great guide. Thnx. I am going to do this today on my s-Max
I have the same gearbox. 1 change mine every 3 years or thirty thousand miles. Total bill for parts for engine oil filter Derv filter. gear box oil and filter. O rings. Cost £280.00 from fords. For fords to do the full service was going to be over £700.00 pounds. I found doing the job my self was easy but I did have a pit I could use.
Hi mate, what oil spec do you use?
"Ford WSS-M2C936-A" ?
@@Dorngrunder hello. Has it was the first time I I've change the oil I got it from ford's garage. It did cost more from them but new I was getting the right stuff. I found it easy to change using a pit.
Great video thanks, no way am I paying Ford to do this and they want £450 - the genuine Ford oil and filter cost £179 from an specialist on eBay.
Used to be a time when a gearbox (auto or manual) would easily outlast the rest of the car. Something that deeply offends the insatiable corporate greed. So it was deemed necessary to redesign the oh so simple gearbox to create an insanely complicated new kind of gearbox that could be relied upon to fail regularly and thus generate a continous revenue stream. Just like all those engines with EGR on them, another guaranteed multiple engine failure revenue generating system (which can be rectified with the fitting of a simple and cheap oil carch can, somthing that no car manfacturer supplies or fits). I wouldnt have a modern car if it was free.
With the ever tighter emission regulations and increasing fuel economy figure this is the price to pay unfortunately...
Hi Alan great video - I also have a 2012 mondeo what Meyle pack did you order please many thanks Kev
Nulon DCT oil will cost around 70 pounds for 6L and 20 pounds for filter
Another good video from you mate
There's a much simpler way to check the oil level and is probably more accurate. As with any automatic box, pour your oil in and start the engine and leave it in park and fill until it reaches the level, that way the hydraulic circuits are already primed. I typically find they need about 7.5 litres for a service, I wouldn't rely on the amounts drained to be an indicator as I've seen plenty with hardly any come out!
When they work these 'boxes are lovely and smooth to drive, however they're far from reliable due to poor design of the clutch pack which fail - hence the nickname "powersh!ts" 🤣
Brilliant!! Thanks again for another amazing video!
So yes the powershifts have got such a bad rep that ford have had lawsuits and had to extend the warranty up to 10 years in some countries, only 5 in the UK. From what I've read it appears that the majority of faults were in the dry clutch versions fitted to the fiesta and focus models with the Mondeo having the wet clutch version. I think ford started fitting traditional torque converter auto boxes in the focus from 2016 onwards and also in the Mondeo from fairly recently. I believe the wet clutch ones are generally more reliable than the dry ones as long as they are maintained properly but still a complicated bit of kit.
I don't wonder that at all. I have one of the last torque converter automatics on my diesel mk4 and it's driven almost 600k km's. Still seems to work just fine. I'm bit surprised actually as I haven't seen too many oil changes made to it by previous owners.
@@jothain Wow 600km! that's impressive. I also stumbled across a useful site on the Powershift transmissions .... axleaddict.com/cars/Powershift-Automatic-Transmission-Faults
Hi, I need help, there is a malfunction of the Input Turbine Shaft Speed Sensor. Where is the sensor located?
Hi Alan, nice video, congrats!
I'm just wondering: Besides the external "cylindrical" filter, what about the internal Filter? Shouldn't that one also be replaced?
Kind regards.
Easier than the eealed auto boxes that you have to drop the pan to change the oil and filter
Hi Alan, did you have chance to work with 8F35 transmission, did this have the same external fluid filter or is an internal one? what is the recommended service interval for automatic transmission fluid? Thanks and good luck !
Oil is shared between the clutches and the gearbox. All the crap in the filter and the oil is clutch wear. If you don’t change the oil the box will fail. Just change it!!
Hi Alan. I would like to buy a Mondeo mk5 2.0tdci 110kv 2015 with 140,000km. ! Can you tell me what I should pay attention to when inspecting before buying, do you advise me an automatic transmission or manual? Thank you
Thanks for this amazing video. Really informative. I have a Ford Mondeo 2011 which hits sometimes at the first gear and reverse. And when coming to a stop. It changes gears smoothly otherwise. What do you think the problem is? I have already changed oil and filter but did not really help.
Jadder at 1st to 2nd gear is a common behaviour with PS boxes. Check how old is your battery. If battery cant hold the voltage the gearbox will jadder between 1-2. Please dont ask me why. This is the cheapest you can check before you start spending money on crazy expensive components.
Alan, have you had any bad manual mk4 transmissions in your shop? The synch went bad on my 1.6 tdci Mondeo at 180.000km. It would occasionally pop out of 2nd after clutch release. Had to get a new gearbox, because this is supposedly a common fault on the Fords?
yes 2nd gear and sometimes 3rd synchro go which are quite common...had quite a few hear...we just get gearboxes repaired with new 2nd gear and synchro
Mmmmmm.....Miss M.....
That looked a nice car and I enjoyed the video!
I used to have a Citroen with an EGS box. That required many brave pills and when they ran out, I sold the car!😂
That was a gearbox with a reputation....😖
Anyway, thanks for the vid👍👍👍
dreadful box you brace your neck for each gearchange !
Hi Alan! Any upcoming video for Aisin automatic transmission oil change.
we don't have any autos apart from mk3 mondeo autos
Alan if you want a manual for that gearbox just gave me a call, oil change every 48k km or 30k mi.
Piotr,
could you send me the manual for the gearbox?
@@Cyberhonny sure
Hi and thank youfor all the videos👏.
I have a ford mondeo mk4 with the powershift.
Iam thinking 🤔 to change the oil myself but I just have one problem the floor in my garage a bit incline so the car is not level.
So iam wondering if i measure how many litres I get out and put exactly the same with out checking the level will that work or not?
Iam thankful for the help.
A very informative tutorial. Thank you for your advice, most helpful. Just hope it works. I'm getting warning display on the dashboard, transmission limited, hopefully a gearbox and filter oil change shall rectify the issue. Just one question what is the model of the meyle kit that you used? I currently drive a 13 plate Titaniumx X BS.
I’m currently getting this message, did an oil change solve this?
Hi alan thanks for the great video's you do I wonder if you could do some video's on the recalls as you are running a fleet of mk5 mondeos. With several recalls so I guess your company as had a few . Sump breach.battery monitor sensors would be of interest. Thanks
I have the same gearbox in my Mondeo MK4 and have just changed the gearbox oil and filter today. I noticed in the back chamber the oil was clear like new and the oil in the front chamber was really black. Do you think the something wrong with the oil pump? Love your videos 👍
no, if there was anything wrong with that gearbox..you would certainly know about it
Hey Alan a very good vid again! Thank you ! Can you tell us a bit more about why the 2litre Diesel TDCi engine that is used on the Focus MK3 and Mondeo MK5 has DPF issues and is deleting and removing the DPF the right choise? Is it the style of driving, short runs , fuel qallity or else and how do you deal with this issue. I have the 1.6 TDCi Focus MK3 and never got anny issue but want to get the 2ltr 163 bhp one as next vehicle...... Cheers !
Alan where can I get this manual you were talking about?
Very informative video! Is it the same transmission in a 2017 Mondeo?
It should be revised version from 2017 and later. First versions of PowerShift 6dct450 have plastic guides on springs inside flywheel. Once plastic becomes brittle, it goes in flakes and mechatronic unit is fucked up. Not cheap to repair
PS: 2017 gasoline Mondeo doesn't have PowerShift Getrag, it has classic torque converter, which is better. Diesels still have DSG style Getrag, but shouldn't have the same issues as first revision, since flywheel is outside of gearbox, so plastic can't contaminate gearbox oil
Is this the DCT450? I plan to do the oil change on my Focus Mk3.
Can you please put a link for the oil? I have found a kit but i want to be sure i buy the correct stuff. Or only the specification is necessary ( WSS-M2C936-A)?
Thanks a lot!
Hey, I'm pretty sure it is. The filter I bought is the same one that he has in this video. MK4 2.0 diesel has the same transmission and engine as the MK3 Focus 2.0 diesel. I bought the Penrite DCT fluid which says it means Ford spec Ford M2C936-A. I'm yet to actually do the service, just getting as much info as possible before I attempt.
Hi Alan do you believe this is the same process for the 2018 diesel Mondeo?
Hi sir, can't see where is the location of the filter... mybe you have their ford focus 2.0 tdci please make a video how to changce the transmission oil... many of my friends in group will be happy to watch you... pls reply and let us know if you can sir... god bless...
Can you help please Alan . Need to do gear box a oil change. My 2010 Mondeo 2.0L Titanium x sports auto box either has Mercon V or LV, i cannot find a identify number , the vin doesn't help. Mike
Most the problems are around the DCT's fitted to the Fiesta and Focus not the ones fitted to the Mondeo's.
Does the 2.5T also has a powershift or is this a volvo gearbox