Steady Rest Mount for Long Shaft Work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In a previous episode of SNS • SNS 299: Shaper Liftin... I showed a steel plate that I was machining to build a steady rest mount. This is the completion of that job. We'll get it properly drill, milled and tapped and show the final set-up and how it will work. We also make some bushings that I'll run on both the spindle and the steady rest and protect the finish of the shaft.
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Two vids in the same evening... Couldn't be happier
That "clunky old" drill sharpener is pretty damn awesome. No fancy electronics to screw up, just dependable mechanical.
Being new to the home machining game I'm really appreciating the straight forward and no fluff commentary Adam gives around the process he uses to get the job done.
Excellent channel 👍
I guess it's casual Saturday when Adam is just measuring stuff with a ruler 😀.
I thought the same thing: +/- .0312? What?
That freshly sharpened drill went into the work like hot knife in butter. More of those please ;)
This is why I watch (faithfully) all of Adam's videos. Elegant solutions to unusual problems executed to the highest standards of the trade. Where is the five star button when you need it?
It would have been cool to use a 45° dove tail cutter and fit the piece of angle like a sight on a rifle barrel.
Casey Nolte Show is how to do it.
Nice job setting up for the big jobs you used to do. I'm sure it will come in handy.
I look forward to seeing your family at the end of your videos and am disappointed when they get forgotten.
Thanks for sharing.
Another nice video. I really enjoy watching you work in your machine shop. Best of all, like me, you treasure your Dads and Grandads old tools. Keep those traditions alive.
Hi,
Man I am 74 years old and those heavy duty wrenches bring back memories of my dad using that style of wrench when I was a little kid. Ha Ha
Nice Work!
John
You don't need to go to Disney World. You've got everything you need for entertainment right there in your shop. I miss my Monarch, Bridgeport, and Hurco BM40. Retirement sucks!!!
Isn’t Adam a slick guy. I so enjoy watching him gracefully move about solving problems and maintaining the craftsman quality. You encourage me to always maintain accuracy with my builds. It’s worth it even if it only serves to help you sleep a little better at night. Really enjoy your vids Adam, you do a great job. Keep up the good work!
Hey Adam!
Just a quick snippet on the Metal Devil, the manufacturer has one or two "excellent" videos on TH-cam illustrating best practices for cutting various structural steels. Typically, angle iron is cut with the corner 'up' so that the cut is always uniform down each leg. This allows for the fastest cut as well.
Best regards, GREAT videos as always!
Ken
Good to see the drill bit grinder working!
Truly enjoy watching your videos. Your common sense approach to problems is a refreshing change from all the "throw tech at it" usual solutions. There's a time & place for "tech", but think about it... time warp back to when some of the machines you are using were built - the "tech" was a micrometer and the math in the guys head.
You also touched on a very important aspect of any good machinist or mechanic - "feel". This can't be taught - it is acquired.
When an accomplished machinist or mechanic says "that feels about right..." or "that looks good"... or "that sounds right"... I'll put dollars to your dimes that if you pull out the tech, the machinist's "feel" will be nearly spot-on.
Keep up the fabulous work, and go forward knowing that you're keeping the craft alive!
Gotta start moving some stuff around so you can fit that Giant American Pacemaker in there, lol
Hey Adam, i just want to let you know that i really apreciate your videos and the work you put into them. Im in the second year of my apprenticeship to become a machinist. I had the choice between a couple different careers i could follow and machinig was one of them. one of the reasons i decided to go that direction were your videos. greetings and stay healthy from germany. (one big benefit i have from watching your videos is that i can sort of also work in inches, wich many people at the shop cant do.)
Steady Rest is now also good for Limbo Night with family and friends at the Booth Workshop!!
Great example of intuitive machining. You did this by the seat of your pants and did it perfectly.
Brass tipped set screws, is all about the knowledge of what is available.......Lovely
I made mine by drilling bolts down the center and milling a peg on a piece of round brass of the same diameter . Press fit them into the steel bolts and ABOMs yer uncle .
@@chrismsmalley2626 This is old skool, somebody has umpteens of these on the shelf....If you have to make it you have more tools than me, but often if I can find something it can get me out of a whole bunch of problems..
McMaster-Carr sells them with brass or nylon tips.
I said it before and I’ll say it again. I do like watching the operation of a job shop. Thinking outside the box keeps you sharp.
Real nice job Adam! 👍👌 Your skills are awesome, as well as your videos! 👍👍👍
Awesome drill grinder. Can't wait to see it after its restored. Hope you make videos of it!
Seconded that was super interesting with the grinding wheel positioned in an oblique tangent to the rotating bit while combined with the seemingly eccentric wheel movement.
I'm wondering if the geometry of that machine is solely dedicated to sharpening drill bits, or if it can be used to grind other tooling (utilizing a different non spinnig tool holder).
Looking good Adam. Can't wait to see you be able to do some live stream machining.
You spoke of using your Dads flange nuts. When I was in school for a grade I made some 5/8 flange nuts and a set of step blocks and toe clamps. While they weren't tool room grade they worked and I got a decent grade on them. Still got them after all these years. Adam you may know of this but in Ft. Valley Ga. there is an OLD shop called Anthorne machine where the lathes are bolted to a wooden floor. I think Keith Rucker made a video about it. I was there one day and they had a shaft support bolted to the floor made of a simple oak wood block on a metal stand with a V in it . Little grease for lube and they were turning and threading the end. Hey it worked for them. Looks like with your fixturing your shaft job will be a piece of cake........
That flex-arm is certainly one of the cooler toys you can have in the shop :)
Thank you for your work. I never get tired of watching your videos. 👍
sitting here at home for the past four weeks unable to do anything, it is therapeutic to watch your work. very resourceful!
Nice that lathe has a big enough thru bore to do the shaft that way. Might have to watch for certain speeds that it doesnt try to make your steady a tuning fork. Could always prop a board under it to the floor if you had to to dampen and stabalize things. :-)
That is a good setup, and depending on tolerances of the work, should work out more than enough. "Its all about straight lines and perfect circles"!!
Still like to watch the drill bit sharpener work. Fascinating changes in geometry of the bits versus wheel placement. Always enjoy your videos. Make me jealous as all hell....
And wow, that's a hypnotic grinder....
Seriously. Down the the sounds and everything.
I reckon you should give that old drill sharpener a bit of TLC, it's a gem! Great to see it in action and after the initial drop of the jaw, I started seeing how clever it really is. Quieten down that clanking, a quick inspection of it parts and a lick o paint. It sure has got character!
You forget how easy Abom makes it look until you watch some other manual machining channels! Truly a pro.
🤭😁
Or when i go out to my shop and it takes me 15 minutes to do what he does just by looking at a piece lol
Thank you for the extended videos Adam, keep it up. I believe most of your viewers would be content watching you working in the shop. I miss the indicating videos! Guys would cringe if they ever seen me lining up my wood lathe for turning tree stumps. My laser is a flashlight that is in the chuck and it tells me within half a foot where to place my tool stands. The bed is separate from the head and swivels 60* either way and first time users feel like they are falling over. When you said you could feel if it was true I instantly thought of my old lathe:)
I noticed the step back and get a better shot of the slitting saw as it is finishes the cut. Good move.
As a long term viewer, I feel like you have your mojo/energy back in the last few weeks. Great to see 😀
Constantly impressed with how almost over the top you are with accuracy!!
Can only hope I pick up your traits!
I was just watching you mill with that roughing cutter , not that it matters which cutter your using , I was going to suggest using a plexiglass guard that protects you some from anything flying from the cutter area , they can be bought with a flexible arm and a magnetic base . Several years ago if I would have been using one when I was running a ProtoTrack mill and forgot to reset the program when I changed to a longer drill and it rapidly came down and crashed and the drill bit broke off and went into my chest , luckily didn’t penetrate the membrane around my heart Dr. said , it was a piece from a 9/32 drill about 3/16 long . I know it sounds wimpish but hey if it can possibly help from getting an injury it’s well worth it!
I use a large Huron mill to support long tubes to mill on my Bridgeport.
Not that it's necessary, but it might be fun to try chucking up a small piece of scrap stock, putting a small hole, and using a cheap bore laser. Cheap and easy -- for nothing else to get it close enough to get the rod dialed in. Bonus if you get a mirror finish on something to fasten into the steady rest to reflect the laser line back to dial in squareness.
Adam, Really enjoyed your video, looks like all will work, nice job looking forward to seeing your next video on this project, thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
Wow, that tap master sure makes short work of what could be a tedious physical job, and such a nice job on the remote centre . i always like your projects Adam, keep safe and cheers!
You are a talented machinist. With one hell of a shop setup.
Another Great VIdeo ABom! Heard the "ouch'" when you caught the hot chip - I know the agony of that defeat.... (well when it lands on de feet....) Completely envious of that power tapping machine.
Forget the feet. What really sucks is when it gets behind your shirt collar. :-D
Absolutely awesome, great solution to a problem and definitely something someone in a small shop/shed would find useful to know and seen done.
Excellent videography and photography. It really displays your skillful machining skills and setups. I'm not a machinist but I enjoy your work enormously.
I love this Adam, it's practical and flexible and good engineering. 👍🏼
Looking forward to the shaft machining!
Love how you make tools with tools out of metal for a project
I like that Oliver drill sharpener, i'm going to keep looking for one.
Good job Adam.
That drill sharpener sounds like a Jamaican night club!
No disrespect, I be jammin'!
You have me wondering if anyone ever told Keith Fenner he needed a laser when he had shafting poking into other rooms.
You show the greatest attention to detail every time no matter the job and reputation is in the details.
Awesome work.. when i get a new machine, at some point i go through the whole thing. I know you said it in previous videos, but it’s time to go through that drill sharpener. Clean it up, tune it up, quiet it down.. let’s see how the internals look. Please? Sooner than later? Awesome work again. Thanks for keeping me entertained through all this covid nonsense.
when I was 18yrs old I bought a us general scribe broke it first day went to my machine shop supplier the old man put a pc of 1/8 in carbide in the end of it 44 yrs old know use the scribe everyday its one of my best tools
Awesomeness again Adam ,your attention to detail always makes me smile . Been subscribed since your very first video. We're on lockdown here in the Scottish highlands, so these last few days I've started watching your videos from the very start again 😁. They are just as interesting the second time around . .... thank you sir
11:12 Slight break to change the underwear :D
Well made Adam. Thanks for sharing
Awesome 👍. Can't wait to see the project. Old drill grinder does a great job. Sounds like the belt is hitting the guard, needs some adjustment.
Excellent video covered a wide range of jobs there. Nice grind on that drill you reground. Looking forward to seeing that steady rest get used well planned out job you got lined up
We would have got a slap in the neck, using our caliper to scribe a center line. But as an excuse, a lot of TH-cam machinists seem to do it. Greetings from Hamburg, Germany
Years ago every apprentices tool box had a hemorphodite caliper to scribe parallel lines to an edge. Those dial calipers were too expensive for use that way.
Today the Chinese dial/digital calipers
are like a dime a dozen.
Well, I think that goes along with the saying: "You can always tell a German (machinist) ... you just can't
tell him much!"
Slicker than a minnow's tail! Adam, you ought to teach fixture development. Oh, I guess you do and just did! I'd love to have done some brick jobs with you; I bet you'd do just fine. Greg (the bricklayer from Southern Ohio...staying in and healthy.)
Оригинальная идея. Respect!!!
Really tidy job. Putting the V towards the outer end of the extension bar might have been better in terms of rigidity i.e not necking the bar in the middle, though the steady rest opening from the other side may have been less convenient.
11:00 damn that mill can take some heavy cuts wish i could cut stainless like that on my bridgeport
Great video! I love all the actual machine work, and it was cool seeing the tapping machine do some work.
Cool designing and constrcuting the mount, I think it is great you are able to continue working during this crisis as I said on another channel it is like cottage industries, adaptable to a crisis like COIV19 whereas the large industies are shut down...the v-way looks great, as always...cool with the welds looking great...mark one eyeball and experience aye...I understand the need for bushings makes sense...great result there.
Two uploads in one day, brilliant :)
Reminds me of Keith Fenner and the all the marine shafting he does in his shop 💪🏆✨ Getter Done 👈
Great work Adam. Excellent idea. I’m sure you were thinking of this when you place equipment. Since you did the same thing at motion. Thank you for sharing.
Awesome work. Love all of your videos. Detail counts.
I know perhaps external look is not important for you but you can make video on restoring outlook at least on drill sharpening machine.
Thx for video.)))
Another great vlog Adam 👍.
Thanks for sharing and stay safe all.
I don’t see how the spider actually supports anything with it not being anchored to the machine/spindle or whatever in any way? Maybe I’m just missing something on how it actually works....obviously a good chance of that. This is all Japanese to me, but I certainly learn something new from you everyday and LOVE IT! Thanks for sharing....again!
Matthew Green ...I figured it had to be something like that. Appreciate the reply.
As usual Adam, a most interesting video, but I have just one comment,if it was me and to put my mind at rest, I would make a supporting jack to go under the "overhang" on the mill just to eliminate any possible cause of a dip whilst the workpiece is rotating and of course taking any stress from the mill table......just a thought mate.....nothing more.
Looks like the files from the Florida flywheelers swap meet . nice job
Man that Flexarm looks like a joy to use
Holy smokes.. nice tap machine
Great adaptation of a steady , Lucky the mill is in the right spot ! Cheers .
Good job Adam. Really interesting work and you were taught well. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Very neat set up for long shaft work Adam. You are getting a very well equipped shop set up to do any kind of work. Your dad and grandpa are very proud of you I know for sure.
Perfect alignment of the steady rest is not necessary on something that long and slender. All you are trying to do is support the shaft and prevent whipping. Nice work, sir.
This is your best yet. Awesome idea.
I worked in the oil patch for a while and we had large, double chuck lathes that we used for maching new threads on 20 ft long downhole tools (oil well drills). The second chuck was at the back of the headstock and we used a floor mounted support similar to your mill mounted one. Awesome idea man.
Looking good, can't wait to see the shaft work. You haven't done any viewer mail in a while, always nice to see what people send in and what fancy (or not) tooling you've acquired.
Always an inspiration to do better.
Your work ethic and skill keeps me motivated in life and work. Eternal thanks.
Awesome solution to a very common machine shop problem! And what a lot of people (not machinist) don't think about is that over that 4-5 foot length, the shaft can and will flex a little if needed to align itself with the steady rest. As you know the most important thing with a long shaft is to have it supported so it won't whip! Good thinking with the split bushings! As always, nice work Adam! Stay safe and healthy (Abby too!) Dan @6-4_Fab Glen Rock, PA
I need a "Steady Rest" for my Long Shaft work at home!!
Huh....!!!
That’s what she said
Dangit, beat me to it.
Veddy veddy nice. Steady as she goes!
Very nice, Thanks Adam
Good out of the box thinking, to those that think the steady rest need to be perfectly true on the back end it doesn't, it is just there to prevent the back end from whiping around and also from creating chatter on the end you are cutting. With it hanging out that far without any support it will bend and whip around farther from the center of rotation the faster the spindle turns not only being dangerous to be around but also bending the shaft and throwing the end you are cutting off center ruining the part.
Lovely work, good to have the workshop so near home these days.
That shot of the shaft in the steady rest looking towards the shapers was awesome, you've got yourself one hell of a shop my man!!
I found your doing your measurements and using the spring loaded scribe and excellent little tutorial for people like me who have difficulty getting holes lined up exactly. Terry
Have they not heard of the Eyecrometer ? Very prevalent in Engineering field......
Yes, often used with the precision finaglecator.
Aw, I was really hoping to see you use a bevelled mill (if there is such a thing) to undercut the keyway for the V so it slid sideways and was locked into the baseplate. That's the woodworking router user in me speaking ;) Nice video thanks! Hope all is well with you in lockdown.
I think you may be referring to a "Dove Tail" cutter.
Well son of a gun, I'm watching this the same evening of the day it was posted. Great job but it took a while to understand what the long bar was for and how it would work. I assumed it would somehow fit on the lathe since that's where steady rests are used. Never saw a drill sharpening machine like that. Keep 'em coming.
5:15 Adam shouts "AWW" Hot chip?! Lol
A very neat solution Adam. Thanks for two videos in one day!
Why not just put parallel ends on the V groove so it would allow it to move with the steady rest slot. Yet keep the grove at 90 degrees? Then that would give you a little more adjustment in and out.
kiddiescripterkiller the project is done and works great. Build a jig for him then if you’re not happy.
Pretty awesome setup - i dont think you'll have any issues like you said so long as you take it slow and dial it in. Your experience won't lead you wrong here - looks like it should work a treat! Can't wait to see the final setup on the actual project
Great idea Adam. Great video