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What was the profile on the lenovo, economy or maximum performance from the battery? As far as I remember from the box, you still need to configure it on windows machines. Have you done this?
Can you recommend a better windows laptop within the same price ?, everything in this price range has a catch,some have tn displays some with horrible sRGB, but this one seeem to not"have a catch"
2 Things , first the Lenovo is a i5 !!! second it's on batterie , and it usually switches then to a more conservative mode , don't know for the M1 .... so at the end i'm not sure if it's fair , but nice video anyway ....any comment on fan noise would be great !!
@@gregtoope Hmmm. I'm not really sure but that's just from my own searches and from that I found out a difference of give or take 500USD when I compare both laptops lowest spec available.
no question that m1 is far superior. However, all this comes at a cost, in the UK, Mac costs over 50% more, i.e. (converted): M1: 2345USD, lenovo: 1250 USD (though not available as of September 2021). There are also some other issues (on top of ssd), such as: your lenovo comes with intel i5, I believe, and with onboard intel graphics. Lenovo variants with amd ryzen 7 and onboard nvidia graphics are - reportedly - much more efficient at various graphics tasks. Another factor _might_ be ram. I saw you add another 8gb stick, but to run in dual-channel mode it's got to be identical stick (or at least near-a) the one already on board (I'm not saying it wasn't though). Another factor might be that lenovo is, reportedly, 'aggressive' in power management in battery mode, cuts down processor speed significantly. That said, M1 in your test also runs on battery (and it's widely known that Apple are way ahead of the rest in terms of battery / power optimisation). Ultimately for me though (irrelevant to the performance, which clearly shows the winner) the major no-no against apple is their walled garden approach that extends past OS, deep into hardware. In other words, they control the design and make it purposedly very hard and very, very expensive to repair and upgrade components. While all other manufacturers have copied their approach, at least with this lenovo model you can upgrade ssds and repair/replace some components, like keyboard, fan, wifi card, etc. Should these fail on M1, you''ll pay through the nose to get those fixed, unless you're happy with serious do-it-yourself repair. But that's beyond the straight comparison. btw, I guess it would be more of a match to compare M1 against lenovo ideapad5 pro (14-inch) which comes with dedicated (low-end, but still) graphics card (and much better screen) and it reportedly costs around 1000USD (if you can find it anywhere!). I still don't think it would match M1 though.
Hey man. I'm seriously looking at this computer as a budget video editor. I've found a good price on one with 16gb ram and the 4700u. I'm thinking that adding a 16gb for the second memory port will do the trick but my concern is more with the 4700u. Do you think the 32gb upgrade will be enough to handle my tasks with that processor? Thanks buddy! -Ryan in Fort Erie
Thank you for this great video, I want to tell you that I was really considering buying this Lenovo laptop ... for 4k video editing .. using Davinci!! and you just hit the point! so thank you .. I still see Lenovo can do the job for sure, but the concern here is what if I am working on a larger project! imagine home much time it will consume to complete a 20 or 30 min 4k video for example! to be honest, I had a doubt to pay more for the Macbook M1 (although I know that it's a better machine than Lenovo of course) BUT! I didn't expect that much big difference! especially if you will have different programs or apps that will run same time on the machine, so I imagine the processor will go crazy with such a slow hard disk. Thank many for the good stuff ;)
most welcome. thanks for the comment. Im lucky enough to have both and would easily use the macbook over the lenovo for editing 4k. I primarily use the lenovo for business stuff and of course just day to day use. Especially when the mac is busy doing something else. Both are nice machines, but if i could only have one the M1 macbook would be my choice.
Thanks for the video i just brought the lenovo at a very good price big big diffrence to the m1 think i still got a good deal at 200 pounds to be fair. Great video thank you
@@gregtoope ouw that was also my idea:) but to use two notebooks i tought with one notebook can do everything.. i thing will use your strategy also, even it seems a little bit crazy to work with two laptops:)) thanks for answer:)
It would be interesting to compare these results with ryzen 4700u. It has similar with m1 notebookcheck rating. I can try to test it if you share sources. My config - R7 4700u/8gb+32gb pc3200/256ssd+1tb SSD nvme.
@@gregtoope I didn't know people want a Golf 7 1.6 TDi to be compared with a Golf 7 R MK7 and say the 1.6 TDi is trash because of its 110hp. Because thats the way how this benchmarks feels like.
@@xxzmk then you’re seeing something that isn’t there. As you can see from the comments people are looking at the i5 for editing and want to know how close it performed against the M1. Noting more and nothing less.
It's really not fair to compare the M1 Mac to any Windows laptop that costs less than about $3,000. Also, I own both a Thinkbook 15 G2 ITL and a M1 Pro 16" Macbook Pro.
I completely disagree. If you are on a budget, you can get a macbook air M1 for around the same price as my Lenovo Thinkbook (based on what i spent). So why would i put the macbook up against a $3000 PC which is twice the price?
@@yodabolt1247 but the point of a review is to put 2 devices up against each other that are at the same or close price point. Which these two are. If I had $3K to spend id be looking at an M1 Pro or M1 Max.
@@gregtoope I understand the point of the review. I was just making an observation about the relative performance of the M1 vs Intel based Windows laptops.
Has nothing to do with if you edit or not. It’s a baseline for performance. I still use both these machines daily and in day to day tasks the M1 is so much faster and considerably more efficient.
both were on battery and if i wanted to plug it in to edit then i would just buy a desktop. Even plugged in the Lenovo doesn't compare. And thats even at day to day tasks. The Lenovo is workable, but with all the optimizations that are happing for the Apple silicon, the M1 is just hard to beat.
at the time of shooting this video these computers were close to the same price. especially if you put the lenovo up against the Macbook Air which has the same chip and performs pretty much just as fast as the Pro did at that time.
Grear vídeo, can You do the same comparsion betwen same Lenovo thinkbook but, 11th gen processor vs Ryzen 5 4000 series processor? I'll really appreciate to compare gpus
Davinci relies on and gpu the one in the windows laptop is not adequate. If you had aa gpu with at least 6k vram the story would be different. With a 1669 gpu there will be very little difference.
@@faisal6975 apparently the laptop will discharge when you game and plug the laptop into the charger. the charger is 65w. so my guess is that the laptop will come with a 28w version of the mx450.
@@faisal6975i thought the ideapad run a little bit warmer. but performance will be close to the same. it will always help to elevate the notebook so it can take better air and run so a little cooler. i'm not really aware of the slim version. (I think in belgium it is just the ideapad 5i) but i could get the thinkbook for cheaper in belgium (without windows sellected in the configurations on lenovo's website). it has thunderbolt and other things that the ideapad has not. sadly it takes 3 months to be delivered
@@dnirox Спасибо. Купил себе такой. На линукс всё завелось. Отпечатки - вроде есть решение, но не проверял. Взлетело +32 гб озу. В видео стало 4 гб. На систему 35.с копейками осталось. Поставил доп ссд м2, без охлаждения. Начал отключаться - поменял местами, вроде работает. Надо думать как радиатор туда впендюрить, или термопрокладку с ссд сразу до корпуса... p.s. Вообще, предложение было протестировать быстродействие давинчи ещё и на линукс.
I think for my video editing needs it doesn't matter if it takes 30 seconds or 1 minute 30 seconds. The big question is, will it work? If the answer is yes, then I'm good. Besides, I use a desktop so I can always throw in some more RAM. However, in the laptop comparison, Mac certainly has the advantage in the 4K department. For people editing in circumstances where time is money there is no question which to use. And Mac has always been know for great graphic production. And thanks for the tip on Resolve having version 17 available. Time for an update.
I wish all users watching this only does video encoding to prove that m1 is superior. As an architect, m1 is a no go since there's no proper app in the first place. 8gb is a joke. You should try getting the thinkbook using amd 5800 and the speed will be much closer
I beg you, here in front of my computer, it's only me, and that's how it is in most cases with your viewers. Therefore, again, I beg you, stop referring to me as "you GUYS" YOU would be acceptable and correct and not annoying."
@@andlem You are maybe right and at the same time wrong. When the presenter is on screen and talks, of course, it is meant for a broad audience but that audience is you, me, and others all sitting mainly alone in front of the screen and "connecting" and listening each of us individualy, therefore it would be better if he just "talks" to you, me and Peter and John etc. Do you get it?
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What was the profile on the lenovo, economy or maximum performance from the battery?
As far as I remember from the box, you still need to configure it on windows machines. Have you done this?
Thank you so much!! Great work. Helpful video.
Awesome. Thanks for stopping by 🙏🏻
Can you recommend a better windows laptop within the same price ?, everything in this price range has a catch,some have tn displays some with horrible sRGB, but this one seeem to not"have a catch"
Good test! THX! But I dont understand what configuration of thinkbook is used. Which Intel i5 processor? i5 1135g7 or smthg older?
2 Things , first the Lenovo is a i5 !!! second it's on batterie , and it usually switches then to a more conservative mode , don't know for the M1 .... so at the end i'm not sure if it's fair , but nice video anyway ....any comment on fan noise would be great !!
The thinkbook is already great for its price. I'm not shocked by the m1's performance since it should be like that price wise.
Actually the thinkbook is about the same price as the Macbook Air. I was actually thinking tat they would be closer in performance.
@@gregtoope Hmmm. I'm not really sure but that's just from my own searches and from that I found out a difference of give or take 500USD when I compare both laptops lowest spec available.
no question that m1 is far superior. However, all this comes at a cost, in the UK, Mac costs over 50% more, i.e. (converted): M1: 2345USD, lenovo: 1250 USD (though not available as of September 2021). There are also some other issues (on top of ssd), such as: your lenovo comes with intel i5, I believe, and with onboard intel graphics. Lenovo variants with amd ryzen 7 and onboard nvidia graphics are - reportedly - much more efficient at various graphics tasks. Another factor _might_ be ram. I saw you add another 8gb stick, but to run in dual-channel mode it's got to be identical stick (or at least near-a) the one already on board (I'm not saying it wasn't though). Another factor might be that lenovo is, reportedly, 'aggressive' in power management in battery mode, cuts down processor speed significantly. That said, M1 in your test also runs on battery (and it's widely known that Apple are way ahead of the rest in terms of battery / power optimisation). Ultimately for me though (irrelevant to the performance, which clearly shows the winner) the major no-no against apple is their walled garden approach that extends past OS, deep into hardware. In other words, they control the design and make it purposedly very hard and very, very expensive to repair and upgrade components. While all other manufacturers have copied their approach, at least with this lenovo model you can upgrade ssds and repair/replace some components, like keyboard, fan, wifi card, etc. Should these fail on M1, you''ll pay through the nose to get those fixed, unless you're happy with serious do-it-yourself repair. But that's beyond the straight comparison.
btw, I guess it would be more of a match to compare M1 against lenovo ideapad5 pro (14-inch) which comes with dedicated (low-end, but still) graphics card (and much better screen) and it reportedly costs around 1000USD (if you can find it anywhere!). I still don't think it would match M1 though.
Great breakdown of the differences
Hey man. I'm seriously looking at this computer as a budget video editor. I've found a good price on one with 16gb ram and the 4700u. I'm thinking that adding a 16gb for the second memory port will do the trick but my concern is more with the 4700u. Do you think the 32gb upgrade will be enough to handle my tasks with that processor? Thanks buddy! -Ryan in Fort Erie
Thank you for this great video, I want to tell you that I was really considering buying this Lenovo laptop ... for 4k video editing .. using Davinci!! and you just hit the point! so thank you .. I still see Lenovo can do the job for sure, but the concern here is what if I am working on a larger project! imagine home much time it will consume to complete a 20 or 30 min 4k video for example! to be honest, I had a doubt to pay more for the Macbook M1 (although I know that it's a better machine than Lenovo of course) BUT! I didn't expect that much big difference! especially if you will have different programs or apps that will run same time on the machine, so I imagine the processor will go crazy with such a slow hard disk.
Thank many for the good stuff ;)
most welcome. thanks for the comment. Im lucky enough to have both and would easily use the macbook over the lenovo for editing 4k. I primarily use the lenovo for business stuff and of course just day to day use. Especially when the mac is busy doing something else. Both are nice machines, but if i could only have one the M1 macbook would be my choice.
Thanks for the video i just brought the lenovo at a very good price big big diffrence to the m1 think i still got a good deal at 200 pounds to be fair. Great video thank you
thats a great price. hard to complain.
Have you made a compariosin with the Ryzen 9, I need it for 4k video editing, do you think it will work without any stuttering
hy thanks for video! at which one do you like the resolution or graphic? do you like it anti reflex or like apple? thanks for answer!!
without question i use the Macbook. The lenovo is mostly used now for browsing and email. The mac i use for everything else.
@@gregtoope ouw that was also my idea:) but to use two notebooks i tought with one notebook can do everything.. i thing will use your strategy also, even it seems a little bit crazy to work with two laptops:)) thanks for answer:)
It would be interesting to compare these results with ryzen 4700u. It has similar with m1 notebookcheck rating. I can try to test it if you share sources. My config - R7 4700u/8gb+32gb pc3200/256ssd+1tb SSD nvme.
thats exaclty what interests me
yeah that would be the better comparison
Thanks for the video. In terms of noise, is lenova always noisy? is fan active in normal browsing too?
It runs on occasion. But not super loud. Nothing that I find overly distracting.
Nice test, very interesting results.
Thank you! Cheers!
Why would someone use a 4 core 8 thread to compare against a full fledge 8 core device ?
Because people asked to have them compared.
@@gregtoope I didn't know people want a Golf 7 1.6 TDi to be compared with a Golf 7 R MK7 and say the 1.6 TDi is trash because of its 110hp. Because thats the way how this benchmarks feels like.
@@xxzmk then you’re seeing something that isn’t there. As you can see from the comments people are looking at the i5 for editing and want to know how close it performed against the M1. Noting more and nothing less.
It's really not fair to compare the M1 Mac to any Windows laptop that costs less than about $3,000. Also, I own both a Thinkbook 15 G2 ITL and a M1 Pro 16" Macbook Pro.
I completely disagree. If you are on a budget, you can get a macbook air M1 for around the same price as my Lenovo Thinkbook (based on what i spent). So why would i put the macbook up against a $3000 PC which is twice the price?
My point was, you'd have to spend close to $3k on a PC laptop to get close to the same experience video editing on an M1.
@@yodabolt1247 but the point of a review is to put 2 devices up against each other that are at the same or close price point. Which these two are. If I had $3K to spend id be looking at an M1 Pro or M1 Max.
@@gregtoope I understand the point of the review. I was just making an observation about the relative performance of the M1 vs Intel based Windows laptops.
@@yodabolt1247 macbook air m1 vs lenovo thinkbook 15 g2 itl for computer engineering student ?
Who cares how fast to export/ edit a video? Most buyers are ordenery users . That Apple speed will be usefull in 1 of a 1000 task
Has nothing to do with if you edit or not. It’s a baseline for performance. I still use both these machines daily and in day to day tasks the M1 is so much faster and considerably more efficient.
You have to plug the Lenovo in, man! You will have a lot different results.
both were on battery and if i wanted to plug it in to edit then i would just buy a desktop. Even plugged in the Lenovo doesn't compare. And thats even at day to day tasks. The Lenovo is workable, but with all the optimizations that are happing for the Apple silicon, the M1 is just hard to beat.
hi, for animation 3d with autodesk maya? who is better?
Thinkbook should be atleast have the highest cpu to be fairly comparable to MacBook m1
why? Price point is similar and this isnt the highest spec'd processor that you can get in a mac.
Of course, the M1 is going to render videos faster. It is a lot better chip with double the cores. You're also paying for that speed.
at the time of shooting this video these computers were close to the same price. especially if you put the lenovo up against the Macbook Air which has the same chip and performs pretty much just as fast as the Pro did at that time.
Grear vídeo, can You do the same comparsion betwen same Lenovo thinkbook but, 11th gen processor vs Ryzen 5 4000 series processor? I'll really appreciate to compare gpus
Can u do this but with the Asus zenbook 13 or 14
if i could get asus to send me the zenbook i would definitely do a video comparison. we shall see.
Davinci relies on and gpu the one in the windows laptop is not adequate. If you had aa gpu with at least 6k vram the story would be different. With a 1669 gpu there will be very little difference.
Do you think the lenovo thinkbook 15 gen 2 i5-1135g7 with an MX450 2gb gddr6 will preform better?
That i dont know. If i find out ill post something.
Yeah, i’m curious about that. Is it mx450 with low power 12w or standar power 28w for ddr6 ?
@@faisal6975 apparently the laptop will discharge when you game and plug the laptop into the charger. the charger is 65w. so my guess is that the laptop will come with a 28w version of the mx450.
@@ArthurDeKeersmaeker if we compare with ideapad slim 5i +mx450, how about that ? Is it same performance ?
@@faisal6975i thought the ideapad run a little bit warmer. but performance will be close to the same. it will always help to elevate the notebook so it can take better air and run so a little cooler.
i'm not really aware of the slim version. (I think in belgium it is just the ideapad 5i)
but i could get the thinkbook for cheaper in belgium (without windows sellected in the configurations on lenovo's website). it has thunderbolt and other things that the ideapad has not. sadly it takes 3 months to be delivered
Seems you used the Intel core version of the Lenovo. Do another comparison with the AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX version, then we can talk ;)
Is the Rzyen 9 good for editing 4k video
You need to improve your camera placement and cover the back window
we are fine with where are cameras are located.
@@gregtoope but its we called viewers should be fine cant see your screens properly
Thanks for the video.
most welcome.
your pc is not plug in!! on battery u can't get full performance from Lenovo.
Even plugged in it cant come close.
Приветствую! Надо было протестировать thinbook на linux.
судя по форумам работает все на 100% из коробки, кроме отпечатка конечно же.... они никогда там не работал и раньше, там закрытые дрова.
@@dnirox Спасибо. Купил себе такой. На линукс всё завелось. Отпечатки - вроде есть решение, но не проверял. Взлетело +32 гб озу. В видео стало 4 гб. На систему 35.с копейками осталось. Поставил доп ссд м2, без охлаждения. Начал отключаться - поменял местами, вроде работает. Надо думать как радиатор туда впендюрить, или термопрокладку с ссд сразу до корпуса...
p.s. Вообще, предложение было протестировать быстродействие давинчи ещё и на линукс.
hi. you need lenovo with i7 or ryzen 7.
if i had the budget at the time i would have looked at it, but for my needs this is working very well.
Thanks a lot.
Most welcome!
I think for my video editing needs it doesn't matter if it takes 30 seconds or 1 minute 30 seconds. The big question is, will it work? If the answer is yes, then I'm good.
Besides, I use a desktop so I can always throw in some more RAM.
However, in the laptop comparison, Mac certainly has the advantage in the 4K department. For people editing in circumstances where time is money there is no question which to use. And Mac has always been know for great graphic production.
And thanks for the tip on Resolve having version 17 available. Time for an update.
yeah resolve is a nice piece of software. Wouldn't mind spending some more time with it.
I wish all users watching this only does video encoding to prove that m1 is superior. As an architect, m1 is a no go since there's no proper app in the first place. 8gb is a joke. You should try getting the thinkbook using amd 5800 and the speed will be much closer
M1 is amazing
that it is.
Lenovo 💪👍😍👍😍🤗💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I still favour the Mac, but Im pretty pleased with the Lenovo
I beg you, here in front of my computer, it's only me, and that's how it is in most cases with your viewers. Therefore, again, I beg you, stop referring to me as "you GUYS" YOU would be acceptable and correct and not annoying."
weirdly im not just talking to you.
@@gregtoope what is even wrong with this kind of people?? omG!
😂
"You guys" is totally correct: Me, myself and I
@@andlem You are maybe right and at the same time wrong. When the presenter is on screen and talks, of course, it is meant for a broad audience but that audience is you, me, and others all sitting mainly alone in front of the screen and "connecting" and listening each of us individualy, therefore it would be better if he just "talks" to you, me and Peter and John etc. Do you get it?