thanks melvin. and thanks for your encouragement about trust. sometimes i feel that haven just needs to trust herself. sometimes she believes what others say about her rather than trusting in the fitness she has gained over the years.
Haven is in great shape. You can just look at her Relative Effort on that run and see how low it is. I get what she is going through and especially at her current age and as a girl (only a girl really knows what I mean😊), but also agree these are mental hurdles. We have to work through those ourselves, but it is nice that you, and everyone else, are supportive and encouraging. She's got this!
I really like that dirt track! I used to do my intervals and tempo runs there! It is touching to see the whole crew supporting Haven on this tough workout. That mental hurdle is tough for any age. So impressed with Haven’s efforts! ❤
Sometimes you just don’t want to run, even if you’re a ‘serious’ runner. And that’s ok. Does Haven really want to be running this much? Or do YOU want her to be running this much?
Watch other episodes of his family on the podcast for context. The kids are definitely highly motivated and determined. They have goals which results in having to run lots of miles to meet those goals. ALL runners have their days when they don’t want to run or question why we do this. It’s part of the challenge we learn to grow from.
honest question deserves an honest response. thanks, toasterboy. first, as her father, i don't think it's okay for Haven to avoid anything just because it's hard. whether it was the AP bio class that she registered for, the pre-med track that she has outlined for her future, or the marathon goals she has set (all of which I initially tried to talk her out of btw), i have always encouraged my daughter to stick to her commitments no matter how much harder they were than what she expected (she's tried to quit all three at one time or another). I want her to have resolve to finish what she's started and courage to tackle obstacles rather than standing down - my best gift to her as her father. in all of the examples above, Haven went on to achieving milestones and is grateful that she did not quit when she lacked the clarity to see a solution. as a coach, i accept that my athlete can have a bad day. however, i cannot accept an athlete who has a string of 10 bad days along with a poor attitude of indifference or resentment. when this happens I ask my athlete to look for an alternative way to achieve their goals since i am no longer able to help. in this case, my athlete asked me to continue coaching her. and because we have an agreed upon coach/athlete relationship, I design and structure workouts that safely meet her goal. she does NOT get a say in how much running she does or how fast the splits are or how many reps she does within a given workout. so the answer to both of your questions is no, she does not want to be running much or hard. who does? I don't. i like trail running with my buddies and chatting while munching on pb and j's. do i want her to be running this much or this hard? no, i want her to be an investment banker, focus on dramatic arts, and learn good communication skills so that she can live in a tony stark mansion. but, as her father and coach i will support her decision to learn how to embrace and do hard things so that she can do even bigger and more important hard things in life. all the best, mk
@@allheartrc mate, you just confirmed my beliefs. I hope your kids can do what THEY want to do in life. Not want tiger daddy wants and makes them do. Such a shame.
it's a shame you feel that way bud. if you read the details, you would understand that Haven has been the decision maker for all aspects of her life. this tiger daddy also supported his son to not apply to colleges after graduating. he's still not sure what he wants to do, and I am currently helping him explore possible avenues that align with his interests and strengths. the label you applied to my parenting style seems conflicting - probably just my bias. anyways i hope all the best for you and your family which i am certain you care deeply for. sending you and your family all my good vibes.
@@toasterboy708I also coach kids in running for the marathon and just know teens will change their mind so frequently on their interest/passion. As parents and coaches who spend lots of time with them are the only ones who can help determine when to call it quits or push through adversity.
Great work Haven! We are all proud of you! Keep Smiling and the run will seem easier!
thanks for the encouragement and good advice, gary!
Great teamwork allheart!! Way to hang in there Haven!! You’re doing a great job!! Trust in your team the same way they trust and believe in you.
thanks melvin. and thanks for your encouragement about trust. sometimes i feel that haven just needs to trust herself. sometimes she believes what others say about her rather than trusting in the fitness she has gained over the years.
You’re so inspiring Haven! So young and such a great runner already. You are an amazing athlete.
thanks so much for the generous compliment and positive encouragement!
Haven is in great shape. You can just look at her Relative Effort on that run and see how low it is. I get what she is going through and especially at her current age and as a girl (only a girl really knows what I mean😊), but also agree these are mental hurdles. We have to work through those ourselves, but it is nice that you, and everyone else, are supportive and encouraging. She's got this!
haven got a lot of support during this workout. she is slowly coming around and starting to believe in herself. soon, she won't need so much help!
I really like that dirt track! I used to do my intervals and tempo runs there! It is touching to see the whole crew supporting Haven on this tough workout. That mental hurdle is tough for any age. So impressed with Haven’s efforts! ❤
just gotta string together a few weeks of successful workouts and haven can start self motivating!
Sometimes you just don’t want to run, even if you’re a ‘serious’ runner. And that’s ok. Does Haven really want to be running this much? Or do YOU want her to be running this much?
Watch other episodes of his family on the podcast for context. The kids are definitely highly motivated and determined. They have goals which results in having to run lots of miles to meet those goals. ALL runners have their days when they don’t want to run or question why we do this. It’s part of the challenge we learn to grow from.
honest question deserves an honest response. thanks, toasterboy.
first, as her father, i don't think it's okay for Haven to avoid anything just because it's hard. whether it was the AP bio class that she registered for, the pre-med track that she has outlined for her future, or the marathon goals she has set (all of which I initially tried to talk her out of btw), i have always encouraged my daughter to stick to her commitments no matter how much harder they were than what she expected (she's tried to quit all three at one time or another). I want her to have resolve to finish what she's started and courage to tackle obstacles rather than standing down - my best gift to her as her father. in all of the examples above, Haven went on to achieving milestones and is grateful that she did not quit when she lacked the clarity to see a solution.
as a coach, i accept that my athlete can have a bad day. however, i cannot accept an athlete who has a string of 10 bad days along with a poor attitude of indifference or resentment. when this happens I ask my athlete to look for an alternative way to achieve their goals since i am no longer able to help. in this case, my athlete asked me to continue coaching her. and because we have an agreed upon coach/athlete relationship, I design and structure workouts that safely meet her goal. she does NOT get a say in how much running she does or how fast the splits are or how many reps she does within a given workout.
so the answer to both of your questions is no, she does not want to be running much or hard. who does? I don't. i like trail running with my buddies and chatting while munching on pb and j's. do i want her to be running this much or this hard? no, i want her to be an investment banker, focus on dramatic arts, and learn good communication skills so that she can live in a tony stark mansion. but, as her father and coach i will support her decision to learn how to embrace and do hard things so that she can do even bigger and more important hard things in life.
all the best,
mk
@@allheartrc mate, you just confirmed my beliefs. I hope your kids can do what THEY want to do in life. Not want tiger daddy wants and makes them do. Such a shame.
it's a shame you feel that way bud. if you read the details, you would understand that Haven has been the decision maker for all aspects of her life. this tiger daddy also supported his son to not apply to colleges after graduating. he's still not sure what he wants to do, and I am currently helping him explore possible avenues that align with his interests and strengths. the label you applied to my parenting style seems conflicting - probably just my bias. anyways i hope all the best for you and your family which i am certain you care deeply for. sending you and your family all my good vibes.
@@toasterboy708I also coach kids in running for the marathon and just know teens will change their mind so frequently on their interest/passion. As parents and coaches who spend lots of time with them are the only ones who can help determine when to call it quits or push through adversity.