"The Uber of Haircuts" Rattles The Dragons | Dragon’s Den
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2019
- Tech Entrepreneurs, Adam Symons and Tarik Fatihi are looking for investment for their on-demand hairdressing service ‘HAIRCVT’, but a sheer lack of market research makes the Dragons question, whether or not ‘bigger players’ in the market will be able to gather the data faster than them whilst generating income…
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Touker has a special relationship with his barber, he sold him some office space.
Top tier comment🤣🤣🤣🤘🏼
that's amazing 🤣🤣
The real reason Touker is bald is because he wouldn't shut up to his barber about all the office spaces that he got.
🤣🤣🤣
Peter be like "So it's basically a space...regular space and all you do is put some desks inside and call it office space. That's not buisness, I'm out..."
Also a concern about retention. Once a service is rendered, the client meets the stylist.. Now the client and the stylist continue a positive relationship outside of the website/app.
Great comment and absolutely spot on 👍
That's a valid concern, but if the app is convenient and their business model doesn't charge either party (instead making money off sponsored search results and the like), why bother leaving it.
There is a booking platform in my country called Booksy, and it's thriving. That's what I use for seeing up appointments with my barber too, and not just the first one. There's nothing wrong with it, so why should we leave it. But that's definitely something worth keeping in mind when designing such platform.
Touker: This business isn’t for me
I can see why 👨🦲 👀
@VFT - WHAT?? A quick google search shows they've permanently closed, even after raising £196,300 through crowfunding.
@@nozorif8610 They've been funded by crows? crowfunding, mmmmm..... The bird kingdom has come a long way, does that include Magpies and Ravens? Is there a chief Rook treasurer?
@@markperryman1797 Only friendly neighbourhood crows. They remember.
And this is the whole issue. If you try to build a business that is for everyone, it ends up being for nobody. It doesn't matter how many people are dissatisfied with their haircutter. As long as you can connect to the small few who are changing and listening to what they want.
@@nozorif8610 lol
Jenny at the hairdresser "I like what you've done with my hair and for that reason I'm out"
😂 😂 am dead
I dont get bored of these Jenny jokes 🤣
After a long day at work, you guys make me laugh
So Thanks for That 😁
Did she once invested in someone?? (I want a serious answer please)
@@Kukigordo25 Yes, I saw at least two.
Maxine Caulfield okay thanx! Do you remember which episode?
Why is touker being so arsey. Because he wont need the service or pissed off that hes gone bald?
I'm bald and even I think that's funny 😂😂😂
birmingham boyz 😂
Lmao, I took a few seconds to get the joke 😂 😂 😂 😂 👍 👍 👍
because its a crap idea
He looks like Harry Hill. Seen the size of his collar?
Jenny: I'm ovt
That's good😂😂💔
Yep. That's a good one. Well done.
lol, nice
There’s a surprise
underrated
This originally aired in August 2015. Unfortunately, a little over two years later, on September 5, 2017, it closed down.
Oh
Lol haha 😂
Not surprised.
While it’s unfortunate it closed down, I do love seeing updates.
The boys have a lot of self-control. I would have been sorely tempted to tell Tuka that with his amount of hair, of course, of course, he would be happy with his current hairdresser. You need a lawn before you need a mower.
this is hilarious Anatole!! am laughing so hard...thanks so much
😂😂😂😂😂
He's an investor not a customer
Well, if you ever wish to do something where you need to get investors, I would hope for your sake that you develop that self-control. Insulting one of the potential investors to their face is ill-advised. And it would also show the other investors in the room that your skin is nowhere near thick enough to be able to make it in business.
they did zero market research before setting up their business, no surprise an investor is angry at them. when you try to access their website today, it doesn't exist. so touker was right
I only wear Bvlgari, get my hair done at haircvt and listen to chvches.
finally some original content
You listen to churches?
Touker: "I'm bald, so I'm out."
what if customers use the app to book the barber for the first time and if they like it, just arrange personal appointments with the barber/salon by themselves?
Johnny Sins Exactly my fucking point. The barber could just book next appointment during the first haircut. They get their haircut and come back next and pay through cash/card and bye goes this service. They haven’t done their homework properly. Barber will always benefit, but these two are not the next JustEat or HungryHouse.
Even the dragons weren't smart enough to point this simple thing out. Well done!
Because presumably there would be some incentive to use the app each time like a discount. Who rings the takeaway direct after first ordering via Just Eat? You carry on using the app through convenience.
@@nudisco300 on the point of convenience the people above are right. Is it more convenient to book a return appointment while in the salon/barbers face to mirror, or is it more convenient to go home, log on and then do it.
@@munky342 To be honest I don't know a single guy that asks the barber to book his next appointment when he's just finished a haircut. Men don't operate like that, Men wait for their hair to start getting long and then think about having it cut. The concept that I have my hair cut and immediately make another appointment is alien to me as a man! On top of having more important things to worry about than my hair immediately after having it cut, its simply not practical to book another future appointment, hair doesn't grow incremental over a few months. One month you could have new hair quite quickly another your hair might grow slower!
If anything the app would improve cancellation rates.
They saw it coming, the company is now dissolved.
Benjamin Ward anyone with common sense saw that coming
I bet the narrator is mega proud of his puns😂
🤣🤣
Peter: I am not going to invest I'll just have this copied by my developers. I'm out lmao
So Deborah's out because she WANTED them to say that they'd burn through all her cash and they'd need millions more? That's a new one! I think she's been sitting next to Jenny 'I'm Out' Campbell for too long.
I think this was before Jenny was in the show
I think she told them what it should have been, and if they had worked out the obvious and asked for more, then the large amount would have come back,
What she saying makes perfect sense. There is no point in giving someone 100,000, for example, when they actually need 5 million. They will spend the $100,000 and still have nothing, because they actually needed to spend millions. So they spend $100,000 and still do not have a functioning business. It's like me saying I want to pay my rent, its $1000, but give me $100. My ass is still gonna be evicted for non-payment, so giving me the $100 just means you're out $100 and my landlord is still fucking evicting me, only now hes got $100 in his pocket and only suing me for $900. So who gained anything there? Freaking no one! That's just an example, but same basic principle. So if she invests, say $100,000, in a business even the entrepreneur says will take millions, they will blow thru her cash and STILL not have a functional business. At that point she either has to throw MORE money at it, or walk away with $100,000 spent on a non-functioning business. Do you get it now?
@VFT - WHAT?? And idiots like you screaming your opinion without having any actual knowledge about what is happening.
andrea damato Are you a teacher, out of curiosity? You explained that concept wonderfully- I have zero business brain whatsoever (I'm not even sure why I watch Dragons Den) so that was a bit lost on me but I get it now. Thanks!
Touker is just a poundland Theo
*trump voice* you are fake news
And Theo is a Greek Harry hill
He's a poor mans Fetus.
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he and that Peter Jones dudes always act like arseholes
Two major flaws here -
1. After one booking the people that do use the site would book private appointments.
2. The site they are purposing could be used as a directory - simply phone the hair place you want after viewing the styles on the site yourself! No need to pay the site anything.
Point 1 you are absolutely correct, point 2 it's not the client who would be paying "haircvt", but the barber.
@@BoustanMan but then that may mean they up their prices like many restaurants do on Uber eats to make up for the cut the middle man takes. In which case people would just see what they like then check the price direct on the company’s website to see if they can make a saving.
"It's been a bad hair day for Tariq and Adam" how bad is that punchline😂
really bald my friend :-)
thiani simon that’s even worse
Well, in his defense Evan Davis is an economist not a comedian lol.
The irony of chewbacca pitching about hair cuts 😂
Hairdressers, Salons and barber shops, at least in the US, are a very community driven enterprises, where you have a fairly close, intimate and trusting relationship with the person who cuts your hair and you feel comfortable going to that person because you like the way they cut your hair. I remember I had to get a haircut while visiting my Dad's winter place in Florida and needed a haircut, so I looked for a well rated hairdresser on Google, she wasn't bad but I didn't like what she did. I think it's one of the few industries that will remain resistant to much change and integration into a Gig-economy, tech infused model.
You're smart dude
Same everywhere, it's because haircutting is actually a very intimate thing and needs a lot of trust. If you have a bad meal or a bad experience on Uber yeah might ruin your day but you'll be back to normal the next day. If you get a bad haircut that is going to ruin many many days.
The fatal flaw in this business idea is it won't lead to repeat revenue. Maybe it's a great way to introduce people to different hairdressers, and they would take a commission of that initial appointment. But after that why would people choose to book through this system? You have your new hair stylist's phone number and you just ring them when you want your hair done - you wouldn't use the app to book a repeat appointment
When Deborah gives advice at “6:30-6:47” Peters face is priceless like “why did you just give away that valuable advice” 😂
In all fairness Peters face always looks like he’s trodden in something and he’s trying to figure out where the smell is coming from 😶 ..
"We've all got a personalized relationship with our hairdresser."
lolno.
Great comment,,, I save money by cutting my own hair I've got a great relationship with my stylist he cuts my hair and I don't charge him😉😂😂😂❤️👍sorry for the third person aspect makes me sound insane but it wouldn't be funny👍
Rob Marrin what
I know right? I would change and I actually do change who cuts my hair all the time...like I don't even think about it.
@@robmarrin6720 lol as do i.
Lol, yes we do if you go to the same hairdresser evert time. Of course I don't speak for those who are too numb of fear to talk to the guy haha.
This company went bankrupt in 2017. Looks like the dragons were right.
Shit, for real?
jonathan allwright yes, they couldn’t raise more investment I think.
These 2 guys are hardworking and resilient and will bounce back with time and do something amazing.
Mary Murphy not everybody wins
@@bdina29 Entrepreneurs have several failed businesses before something actually works. It's never a failure if you learn from your experience.
No original jokes here, I'll see myself out.
Cya Jenny
is it just me or have i seen this a long time ago
i saw what you did there
@Allan Cvt it ovt
I want a "Jenny comment" filter for youtube...
Peter S. you can’t escape the Jenny train 🚂
As a hairdresser & business owner I am really pleased that this did not take off & that the dragons didn't invest. I have been in the industry around 34 years, never advertised or discounted. I have always built by word of mouth, a lot of hard work, keeping updated, believing, understanding & knowing the products I sell.
Adapt or get washed away Henry
Definitely not the “uber” of haircuts. More like yelp imo
Lmao🤣🤣💯💯💯
people just put the uber of something in front of anything nowadays
"We've all got a personal relationship with our hair dressers." This isn't 1960 Touker!
To be fair to Touker 1960 was the last time he saw a hairdresser
Because..?
Well, you might not. But most people from where I live have a personal relationship with them 🙄
@@nzdefrag lmao
I like my barber been seeing him for years. When my last one moved. I kinda panicked till I was reccomend the one I got now. Part of being a barber aside from giving good cuts is to build a relationship with your client. You don't want to hate the person that is cutting your hair.
It's not a good idea because they would not be repeat customers . It's pretty much a one time use unless you find yourself in a new city.
If they did this as "book a barber to come home and cut" there might be something there
Ironically, that man desperately needs a new haircut
*I mean haircvt
Has anyone considered that maybe he likes his hair that way?
I like his hair, it’s stylish.
He hasn't got the booking. Connection error.
Nah... he looks good with that haircut.
Company dissolved in 2017. Raised 200K on Crowdcube, all lost.
That's a lot of haircuts
Me: **laughs in mirror and electric razror**
Customer: "I need a haircut."
HairDoctor: "Go to a barber, mate."
Jenny texts touker “tell them I’m out too”
You find a hairdresser through the site. They get their commission. You then go direct to that hairdresser when you want to use them again and don't need the site
Jenny: *"I like ya cut G!"*
**slaps**
Entrepreneurs: *"EEEEEEEE!"*
Jenny: *"I'm out."*
I don't really get it, how far are people willing to travel for a haircut? People will know all their local hairdressers anyway and will approach them in the traditional way. They've created a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
An Account that’s what I thought😕it’d only really work in places like London where’s there’s loads in a small area
Someone said that about Uber....everyone knows their local taxi firms LOL
In big cities there are a lot of hairdressers and quite a lot of women are willing to spend a lot of time and money just to get the perfect hair cut. Source: My ex used to go to a new hairdresser almost every time. It was a blow to my finances every time :)
People with curly hair surrounded by basic hairdressers that's aren't trained in cutting curly hair???? Lol it took me years to find my hairdresser who can do my hair the way I want and not make me look like a maniac .same with several other ppl I personally know with curly hair lol. This service is super cool!
@@emmas5000 Pretty Uber is burning through money.
Imagine if early Uber investors instead of investing just said “you’re going to burn SO much capital before you reach your goals”
*Oh wait. Sorry Mark.*
how ironic that the dragon with little hair is not convinced
commodore665 it would’ve been ironic if he was convinced
48 people don't know what irony is
James 48+2 people don’t know what irony is.
Bloody hell 48+22 people don’t know what irony is
48+40
Jenny: "This is not my real hair, and for that reason, I'm out."
Roses are red,
Dragons in doubt,
My name is Jenny,
For that reason, I'm out.
This is one of the most inventive versions of this joke. And for that reason I’m out
He looks like he needs a HAIRCVT
I only have pubic hair and for that reason, I’m out.
😂😂😂😂😂
I don't even have that. I too, am out.
@@toddlehman928 obviously a shaver.....it looks like a little boys now?
@@markperryman1797 I was referring to my bald head, but thanks for considering my junk.....
@@toddlehman928 Thought you was replying to 'nirodha' when he said he only has pubic hair and you said you don't even have that, sorry crossed wires...... Not really interested in your junk btw......
It’s for NEW clients . Not everyone already has a hairdresser, Ttoki
I can’t order a haircut to my house... so it’s not like Uber... I’m still gonna have to haul myself down to the salon so I’m gonna go to the one closest to me like I always have 🙄
They had a good mindset - taking advice and not being egotistical like so many others.
That guy has spectacular hair, he really does.
"Hi this is Darrell Olsen, the Producer of 'Dragon's Den'. May I speak with Jenny Campbell - we're confirming the line-up for next season?"
*"I'm sorry, she's out."*
I always love the in-topic puns of the narrator.
So they're sort of like an automated version of the hairdressers section of the Yellow pages
I love how Touker has never heard of salon or barber shop franchises and thinks everyone has their own personal hair dresser.
He's out of touch with what reality is like for the normal person
Nope he’s right. Anyone who cares about their hair style would always stick to their hair dressers.
Only costs me £7 for a haircut ... £10 if I need something for the weekend.
Free idea for anyone: this product would work SO well for tattoo artists
They should standardise and update the booking systems of the salons they're working with so they can offer live booking. It’s not an enormous piece of software, just a small database in most cases
They have the right idea in that a lot of people want to change hairdresser, but don't have a photo they can bring of what they want to look like. Clicking and saying "like this" is not bad.
The live booking is a red herring. Even booking.com doesn't have this, property owners are just sent an email that says "deal with this".
The problem is populating it to the extent that you will get a haircut match within a geographically acceptable distance. With Uber they come to you, and with AirBnb you were going there anyway, but a hard sell to get somebody to travel a long way for a service (unless it's a restaurant with a Michelin star).
Phillip.
Actually, that is not entirely correct. I worked a few years for a significant competitor of booking.com (that eventually got bought by a group of investors and is still operational). .
We had about 4000 or so suppliers across the UK all of whom maintained multiple reservation systems at once. If they took a booking through us, they knew to block it off on booking.com and elsewhere.
Was it perfect? No. Did double-bookings sometimes happen? Absolutely. However, we (at the time) offered support in the event such a thing happened.
As long as hair salons are eager to get customers in stylists' chairs there will be room for a service like this one. What these guys need is a good solicitor to study their business model and draft solid supplier and customer terms and conditions that state clearly:
1. who is responsible for what once a booking has been made
2. Who is responsible for what in the event of a double booking
3. What the procedures for customer redress are etc...
THIS IS A VERY WORKABLE BUSINESS MODEL. At the beginning you'll probably need to commit some of your human resources to doing some on the phone support. However, that support time will give them plenty information with which they can really optimize the product.
Fact is people want their hair styled nicely and they want to be able to vary their hairstyles with a certain amount of certainty and foreknowledge that the person doing their new style is good enough at it, that it will actually be made to look nice.
I say, "Keep going boys!"
My mum is a hairdresser, so I know there are a lot of issues of picking a hairstyle online without the hairdresser looking at your hair in person. Hair is a living thing, it can't be magically changed.
Beede, you are actually agreeing with me. The back-end for booking.com has always been pathetic but they dominate the market through heavy advertising. I was trying to say the lack of live booking is *not* an impediment. Unlike the Dragon's implication.
Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841 My apologies. I did misunderstand you. You are correct the "dragons" (more like sharks) misdiagnosed the real challenge of effectively implementing the idea. To the credit of the founders they did manage to get some good partnerships to start off.
Calling it “The Uber of Haircuts” combined with seeing that one guy’s hair when they walked in made me think they were going to do a haircut demo or something
I thought the SAME THING as well!!😂😂😂 And was a tad disappointed when it didn't happen!!😕😕
Mmm
"Knock knock knock... excuse me Mr Campbell, is Jenny in today? "
"No sorry she's out"
Barber industry can’t improve because most of us never change our barbers 💈. I’m not gonna use an app to book a hair cut as a common man I’ll just go to my local barber that I’ve been going to for years .
and i thought Shaggy needed a haircut......lmao
Dude needs to book an appointment himself through this app.
Company dissolved in September 2017, almost 2 years before this video went up on TH-cam. They lasted just under 4 years total.
Strange that can't find this anywhere online.. Only seem to find that the company dissolved in 2017
Why would it be online if the company dissolved in 2017?
@@anyexpat I just said that
Mank Matt
Yeah but you said it was strange.
*Not strange*
touker suleyman salty cause he's got no hair
They could have softened him up by offering to shave his balls.
Deborah displays excellent vision here and I like her as a great example of being an 'angel investor' and not a venture capitalist.
Funny I was thinking the opposite. She sounds like a VC asking for a grand plan requiring lots of funds. Angels are more like "this could go somewhere , here's some cash to get started "
Just checked they don't appear to be in business anymore
The puns in this video are hilarious 🤣🤣
bahaha ye me almost laughed me foreskin off.
not really a bit tiresome
Didn't do very well. Was struck off the company register in 2017
That other lady didn't giver her verdict?!
This is less of an Uber of haircuts and more like a Skip the Dishes of haircuts
I first thought they were going to demo a new at home hair cutting gadget on curly locks!
That would be great for people moving around when I moved to London I was looking for a hairdresser I struggled to find one
Did you try the phone book?
I'm gobsmacked that anybody would struggle to find a hair salon in London...!!😳
I'd use this in a heartbeat.
I'm so happy this is back on
As a guy with long hair and a beard and need someone for both but have no clue who around me is any good, this would be great. I do it for tattooists, I would absolutely do it for this. But I wouldn't use the site to book... Once I'd found the person I'd just go see them.
Meanwhile.. anno december 2019, site is down.
Touker, I just have to disagree with you here. I went years not being able to find a haircutter that I was satisfied with and would have absolutely loved this app. The fact that you can look at their portfolios online and pick out the right one for you... that's exactly what you need when you're in between stylists.
But it's not a big market, or is it? We don't know. All I can say is that my mum was a hairdresser and she had some people for over 30 years. :P
The moment touka speaks, i laughed😂😂..im going to hell with that
If only the Dragons could update their notetaking from pen and paper
Adam obviously wanted to go to the same hairdresser as Jeff Lynne
The website doesn't seem to exist. Did this idea die?
They were Dissolved on 5 September 2017
@@FateBoost Shame for them I suppose, but we have to get wise to bullshit in this world, everyone says the same old crap about their business idea, that it's going to 'be a game-changer', revolutionize the industry, blah blah blah blah. I've been there. It's just basically a bunch of lies disguised as 'positivism' or something like that. I think we should all just be honest and start using words like "it could possibly.." etc. Anyone who doesn't is just full-of-shit and naive.
@@geofreyr 100% agree with you.
@@FateBoost SPOILERS!!
This won't work because once people find a hairdresser that they like, they'll be more likely to just go back to them. Meaning after using the website a few times, people no longer need to go back
Debra's pen hold is like my chop stick hold.
Deborah doesn't expect them to say on camera that they have a valuable database they can sell, does she?
I cut my own hair and that fella on the left looks like he does too x
Debra: "you didn't ask me for millions, I'm out!"
Would never use that, walking around with a hat or cap for a month because I took a gamble on a site that just wants a cut from what I pay my barber..
Knock knock!
Who is there?
Jenny!
Jenny who?
I'm out!
😂🤣
Why did the Jenny cross the road?
Andrew Balletto why?
@@sohail7875 let me guess its because she is out? 😉
Darren James I was waiting for a much funnier response
Touker Suleyman is a poor mans Theo Pafoetus.
*Paphitis
@@noneofyourbusiness3095 Theo the foetus
I’m not happy with my hairdresser but I don’t trust other hairdressers lol 😂
Everywhere I have ever been has a notebook not a computerised system.
This pitch shows the inconsistency of the dragons . The valuation was laughable . The data collected would fall foul of GDPR and also the commission model is flawed because after the first visit to the hairdresser what’s to stop the client booking direct and not through their website ? It happens with cab drivers all the time - eg airport transfers booked initially through uber and repeat business booked directly with the taxi driver
0:34 can I speak to your manager
The Karen cut
The themed puns in these videos are TOO MUCH
I'd honestly love this type of app and I think alot of people would appreciate it too
Hi guys. I’m Jenny. I’ve literally just learned how to use a cash point but don’t yet know how to use a computer. This is all way above my head and for that reason this one’s not for me and I wish you all the best but I’m out.
Hahaha
nowadays hairdressers are like tattoo artists, some have talent for an specific style, while others are great for a different style... the again, if you're Touker... it's just bald or shorter bald
Touker hasn't even had hair since about 1939 - whats he on about?
THIS IS AMAAAAAAZING !!!! genius