Peak Road Bike Stupidity.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2024
- I can’t decide what I dislike more, this or the TREK MAD-ONE?
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Watching this video while looking at my wonderfull bespoke steel bike with rim brakes, aloy wheels, down tube shifter with 10 speeds and outer cabling that is still lighter than an aero modern road bike and saying to it: "oh, I love you so much!".
Yup.
Ha ha yeah… that’s how I feel. You made a good choice. 😎👍🏻
I'm also looking at my bespoke steel bike. I did go for ultegra mechanical rim brake groupset, so "modern" shifters compared to yours. I don't actually know how much it weighs, but don't really care. A friend of my father-in-law was bemused to the point of anger that I wasn't buying carbon. 🙄
In the uk, Facebook is the place to get bargain old steel bikes. You can pick up top of the range early 90s unsuspended mountain bikes for around £50, put schwalbe marathons & mudguards on & you got a great city commute bike. I even met a guy bought a mint condition hand built late 80s/early 90s tourer, 531 frame, 105 group, stunning paint job, £90. That's a forever bike right there for next to nothing.
@@neil_down_south If you get faster than your father-in-law with your metal bike, he will get even angrier! 😂 But this is also the beauty of steel bikes with oldish technology, it's priceless when you drop a 20k carbon bike rider!
The whole joy of cycling is the simplicity of the equipment. I don't need an app, just a spanner.
Beautifully said! 😍
Simplicity, gives us freedom
Oh brother,you are completely right. That is why I hate electronic shifters,this is all about control.
Thank you Brother! ✊🏻🙂 all the best!
Lesson learned: Having contentment is a blessing.
So true! ❤️
That exact situation you described with the electric gears not working is exactly why I knew it was a stupid idea the moment I heard of it.
That was perceptive of you, few people have that ability. 👍🏻🫡
Safe riding! 🙂
Reginald, you're spot-on. I've been called "old-school" for having similar thoughts to yours, but I think it's just common sense. On a side note, I'm impressed with how unbothered you seem to be while riding in heavy traffic on multilane roads with cars brushing past you. Stay safe out there!
“Great minds think alike.” 😅 You get used to it when you don’t have a choice. Where I lived in the UK was just as bad, in fact I had less space and the roads were busier and the drivers way more aggressive… so this place is quite relaxing by comparison. 🙂 Just over the border in Malaysia it’s like Mad Max, people literally drive like they didn’t have any test, fast, reckless, hate cyclists (extremely poorly educated on road safety) and there are potholes everywhere! That place scares me. 🙁
Thank you anyway and you too! 🙏🏻🙂
This first story made me legit sad. So many people will end up like this. Or quit cycling because of this.
Sometimes I save people, sometimes I fail. 😔
flagship modern bikes nowadays are Propietary problem and issues for the Future.... IF you are not planning a Racing bike...better spend and invest on Titanium or steel Frame , mechanical Group and rim brake. Thats a problems proof Bike.
I agree, the only thing I’d add is… I race on the bike you just described, steel and titanium. 😁👍🏻
I love how you all believe that the parts will be available in the future. Wrenching on a bike yourself is a one thing, having parts to wrench on is another. Mark my words, soon we won’t have parts available to take care of our older equipment.
I agree, besides with the rim breaks... mostly one can't order a Ti/Steel frame for Rim breaks anymore as far as I have seen... discs are of course not necessary for most drivers, but they work and are easy to maintain, so I don't have problem with those... :)
@@hellebarde1450 Yes of course you can custom order a rim brake frame from Merlin Titanium from Stinner From Condor U.K italian tubes, Richard Sachs, there are plenty of builders that will continue the rim brake .As well (i did write and send them an email asking for future rim brakes Hubs) Yes sure there will be manufacturing chris king hubs rim brake, white industries, etc etc etc. NO worries for future Real Bicycles.
Bravo!
You video hits close to home.
We see so many customers wanting to add $1000.00 computers on their entry level bikes , wanting to "upgrade" to tubeless tires, and the like. These sheople need to wake up and stop following these marketing trends. I applaud your views on the subject, sir.
Thank you so much! It’s good to hear that from someone who works in the industry.🙏🏻
I love my hydraulic discs on mtb. Fine with rim brakes on my road bike. Tubeless mtb. Tubed road. Liking the TPU tubes so far.
100% agree! Like I say I’m not against technology when it makes my life better, is I was doing MTB I’d definitely be using discs! 😁👍🏻
Let the sheep buy the latest equipment available.
In the meantime I’ll keep an eye open for the ‘old school’ equipment they consider outdated .
Baaa! 🐑 😂👍🏻
I was thinking i should probably buy a replacement 11 speed Shimano mechanical groupset before the e-shifting bike apocalypse is in full swing and you can't buy them anymore
Good idea, plenty of 11 speed stuff available online. 🙂👍🏻
Reginald, I think you should be happy that you totally convinced me to ride metal frames only and stay away from tubeless? Keep on with making such great videos!
That makes me very happy if you are happy! Safe cycling my friend! 🙂👍🏻
Tubless isn't bad as he makes it sound at all. He is extremely hyperbolic about it. I've been running it for years on my road and gravel bikes. But, since I now have two road bikes, I did put TPU tubes in them. Tubless isn't great if you have a bike or wheels that tend to sit or not get constant use.
My ebike once stopped working and would only go into eco mode. I took it to the shop and the only thing it needed was a firmware update. That's only happened once but also the original controller which was non Bluetooth had to be replaced by a new one which is Bluetooth compatible.
After awhile there is a warning signal to get my bike serviced flashes up periodically but I pretty much ignore it.
That’s the future! 😅👍🏻
Thoroughly enjoyed that.
Agree with everything you said. Keep up the great content, Reginald. 👍🏾
Much appreciated my fine fellow cyclist! All the best! 👍🏻🙂
I am still using 3 x 7 and 1 x 9 on my bikes
3x7 gang its super cheap and you get more range than any 1x or 2x systems even if you put a huge cassette 10-52 on the back you still get more range on a 3x7 22 32 48 14x34 system
that unless you are a "cyclist" that needs large front cogs for extra speed downhill
1x8 commuter here, old mint condition Deore LX I picked up for £15 at local bike co-op. All I need & will last for ever.
@@papalegba6796 yea just service it once a year or twice you ride a lot and it will last forever
@@Honir4 if you look round for good condition old Deore LX 6/7 speed derailleurs & shifters they last for ever. Bomb proof kit.
100% agree. BUT……..so many clueless riders have bought into this stupidness and will never admit to getting it wrong. I think it’s the worst period ever for buying a bike and it will only get worse. What ever happened to keeping things simple and functional. Nothing wrong with rim brakes, QR wheels, cable gears etc. The list goes on
Great comment. Thank you 😊
Buying the aero top spec bike is like buying supercar IMO. Too expensive to buy (and maintain), too sporty (uncomfortable) for normal people just to enjoy cycling. I prefer Ti gravel (with 40mm clearance) bike with ext routing cable, when using disc brakes maybe i will opt the hybrid mech hydraulic system (with cables). Keep up the good work, man. 🎉
Excellent comment and I like your bike specs! Well, to add to your analogy: it’s like buying a super car… 🏎️ but it’s heavier than a transit van 🚐 and no faster than a Hyundai i10. 🚙 😳
All the best and happy gravel riding! 😊
Great video! As a 70 year old I've learned that even when someone asks you for advice, they do not want it. As for bicycles, I'm still kicking myself for selling a steel frame Soma ES that rode so sweet and smooth.
Ha ha yes that can be true. Sometimes people ask me for advice and then do the complete opposite… then they come back to me to fix their problems. 🤷🏻♂️😆
Reginald sounds like he’s about to go throw some tea in a harbor. 😂 And I’m all for it! Good stuff.
If I had any tea to throw… I’d be throwing it. 🤷🏻♂️🙃
@@reginaldscot165 everything is too expensive these days.
I have a titanium bike that I bought about 2 years ago as New Old Stock. I figure it was about 12 years old when I bought it. Ultegra 6600 10 speed. Aluminium wheels, rim brakes. Tube tires. Not tricked out at all, it's 8.3kg without pedals. It is totally perfect for me. I can't think of a single "improvement" in the last 15 years that could improve my bike. If that makes me a luddite, I proudly accept the moniker. 😊
That’s a fine attitude to have my friend! However, I bet I could improve it… 😉 Although I’m not saying the cost would be worth it to you if you are already happy. 😊👍🏻
@reginaldscot165 Oh, for sure it could be improved. Wheels would be the first place. Lower rotational inertia would make make a big difference, I know. Lighter tires and tubes, too. But for the type of riding I do, the cost / benefit analysis just wouldn't pan out. Yeah, I'm very happy with what I have now. 😀
All I can say is I am with you. Shame that over the last decade+ we have seen conspiracies turn real but people turn the other cheek. Sad to see your friend had more money then sense, oh well. Recently been on a 80's road bike stint and have been loving it.
It fills my heart with joy to read comments like yours. 🤩
All the best! 🙂👍🏻
If it's any consolation the UCI cancelled recumbent bikes in 1934 and you can still buy recumbents if you put in the effort.
Yes we can buy a lot the UCI doesn’t allow. 😊
9.820 Kg in size small? OMG. I got 61 cm 1981 Colnago Super with heavy ass San Marco Rolls saddle and heavyweight aluminum components that weighs in just 10 Kg. And it is super comfortable and smooth. I had Campagnolo headset die on me recently, so I replaced that with Tange Levin headset. With simple hand tools and a press-fit from Aliexpress I finished the task in 40 minutes. Now try to change headset bearings in modern bike in 4 hours...
I know right! 😅 When I get bike like this in the shop for a headset service I want to end my existence. 🤪
All the best, cool bike by the way! 😎
My aluminium road bike weighs 9,8! 😂. And it’s not a famous brand.
My old cadd8 all I hade done put 40cm bars batter shells and tyres on it and that’s that
I ment wheels
U made some good points there… but yes u are completely crazy 🤣
At least now I know I’m crazy. Most crazy people never find out… 🤪
When an international ferry company allows motorbikes but bans cycles the cynical explanation seems more believable than the innocent one to me. But I'm also crazy.
100 percent agreement Reginald, love the new format. Cheers!
Thank you kindly! I try to use this format if the subject permits. 😁
I both of my mountain bikes weigh less than 10 kg, including the pedals and water bottle holders. The big problem is that now I can't find replacement wheels for my rim brake Ti bike (from 2000) and the rims do eventually wear out. The 29er bike I bought in 2015 has a different standard for both the front and rear wheels compared to the current standard, so once again replacement wheels have to be custom built.
Im sure someone somewhere is selling something that can work? After all, all you are looking for is a rim right?
All the best of luck! 🙏🏻🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Yes, there are rims that will fit, but I cannot find tubeless compatible rims that will work. Mavic used to make 26" UST rims, but that stopped when they went bankrupt. I suspect there just isn't enough demand.
I had TCR1 for 12 years. When it came time to upgrade I test road a Propel. Within the first 100 metres I knew the Propel was not suitable for long rides. It was literally as stiff as riding on steel rims without tyres. It was absolutely horrible.
It’s good you got to try it. 🙂👍🏻
Steel/aluminium ftw!!! Just adjust cables, oil a few things, air to the tyres and enjoy the ride, everything else is just fluff at the end of the day; even if tricle down tech is a real thing most of us just want to get to point a to b, do some exercise and/or enjoy some time outside.
I'm currently ryding a Trek (domane i think) road bike, all aluminium, 2 by 10 tiagra groupset (the front is Claris, tiagra grips)whit wide flat pedals, 28 mm tyres and rim brakes that i bought used last month and has been a Game changer after the steel pig i had before, lightweight and nimble.
Also beign able to do a close to full service whit basic tools inside the house whitout a stand is such a blessing.
Wonderful to hear! And I agree. Except I’d also add my beloved Titanium to your list. 😉❤️
Best bicycle information + conspiracy theories = my new favourite channel! xD
Ha ha awesome! Don’t worry I have more. 😂
I agree. Although I do like my tubless tires and disc brakes. Though my bike is a steel Kona Rove DL with the TRP hy-road cable actuated calipers.
But all this electronic stuff is all about control ultimately, I think you’re spot on. The masses have to be conditioned first through the convenience of technology.
Very true. No good if everybody is pushing in different directions. 😉
It's not just electric cars that can be controlled remotely. Anything that can receive over the air updates can do this, so almost all modern cars fall into this category. Ford have patented the idea of a car that makes annoying noise through the speakers when you miss a car payment, as well as the idea of a self driving car that will drive back to the dealership when you miss a payment. Lucky no car finance company has ever mistakenly decided someone has missed a car payment then...
GM have already been caught selling the details of every trip the owners of their cars take, including time, start and stop locations and driving style - the only reason it saw the light of day was when a car owner had his insurance premium double for no reason and put in a freedom of information request to the insurance company and got back a list of everything he'd done with the car that year back. If it needs to be on the internet to work, you don't own it.
Louis Rossmann's channel is both eye opening and frightening in his cataloguing of the level of absolute shitweasel that runs corporations these days.
Great and interesting and informative comment! I think I’d be tempted to get a screwdriver and a side cutter and disconnect my car speakers 🔊 😅
Now you know why I drive a car made in 1996. 😉
Totally agree with except tubeless tire s. I've had good experience so far but I use aluminum clincher rims.
Well aluminium clinchers shouldn’t make any difference but they are a good choice anyway. 🙂👍🏻
Having no brakes is not that big of a deal generally, if you can just shove a foot on the rear tire. Takes a bit of practice. Not disagreeing with the overall point- the level the government will go to to get someone to pay is silly. Revocation of any and all licenses- remember they are pushing hard for bicycle licenses in some areas- including hunting, fishing, driver’s, professional, etc. Yes, they sure as heck would lock up your bike remotely if they could.
That’s a good point about licensing. 👍🏻 Yes you are completely right. About slowing down with your foot on the tyre, I wouldn’t like to try that coming down a mountain, after all my shoes are carbon so I don’t think they would make a good breaking surface! 🤣 All the best and safe riding!
I use to do that on my BMX bike back in the day, it has absolutely no brakes, you definitely go through quite a few shoes doing that, plus your parents absolutely hate it when you come home and half of the sole of the shoe is now missing.
Made matters worse my Mongoose decade had a deck on it, on occasion it would grab the shoe and wedge it under the deck and seat stay.
I totally agree with your arguments. I will be running my 10 year old bike with rim brakes and mechanical shifting for many years hopefully. In with part of the world do you live, I live in Holland.
I live on the island of Borneo. 😊🙏🏻
Great Video Reginald, I believe you are spot on! 👍👍👍
Thank you kindly🙏🏻
This is the first exactly the same situation I am in thank you for this video I want a propel too and I ride a tcr at present
Hello again! 😉
I think the Technology market has already reached peak stupidity. My iPhone is designed to not work in just few years. Carbon Bikes are designed to fail. The industry is pushing shit bikes as part of constructed obsolescence. The Consumers has reached peak stupidity, as more people are buying e-bikes. They think they need full suspension to be able to ride on broken tarmac or light gravel😒
You are really spot on with Electronic braking. I could also imagine that it will happen to bikes, and road bike users would be the ones in trouble because we are the only breed of cyclists who travel long distance. Non Cyclist everyday people just own cheap bikes only to get from point A to B, and don’t maintain their bikes at all. They have no interest in their bikes in the first place, and the government won’t be able to control their bikes.
Old school technology like mechanical shifting is going to remain only because they are affordable, though we wouldn’t be seeing any Dura Ace level mechanical shifting anymore.
That might be true about cheap bikes, however what’s interesting is electronics are actually incredibly cheap but they make them seem expensive so they can bump up the price! Like $4,000 for a group set. 🤦🏻♂️ It actually takes more ingenuity and mathematics to make a mechanical ⚙️ group set. All the gears and cogs and spring and pins and tooth angles! It’s actually quite easy to make a servo to do all that. So over time it will get cheaper and more cheap bikes will get it. People will be told it’s an advantage and they will buy… throwing the “old” technology out. 🙄
I think you are right however, I think someone somewhere will be making the mechanical stuff, if they don’t… maybe I will buy some machines and do it myself! 🤔🤭
All the best and great comment! 🫡
Downtube shifters never fail. Just pull a cable and feel for the gear change.
A modern downtube could be hooked up with shimano 105 derailluers and give you a good gear range for dirt cheap. Probably cheaper doing that than to make tourney di2 or some crazy stuff like that.
This was maybe your best analysis to date but your analogies to the current state of affairs makes it an A+. After retuning my trusty Trek 5200 with new fork, bars, bottom bracket and wheels the past couple of seasons, it’s never been more silent or ridden better coming in at 19 pounds. So, it may be time to install those TPU tubes planned as backup.
This video is a gift to humanity in more ways than one.
That’s such a nice thing to say. I was a little hesitant to post this one for obvious reasons and I did cut some stuff out in the edit. But I’m glad it’s out there now.
Yes, give TPU a try, it’s a cheap upgrade and if you don’t like it you haven’t lost much.
All the best and thank you again. 🙏🏻🙂
@@reginaldscot165 - have some TPUs just not installed, two are in the bike bag. Maybe... I'm feeling lucky.
Respect for the bravery as it matters. Here in the States we've been fighting to see scientific discussion again and an end to the censorship. X helped and I've read studies from the beginning around the world so I understand exactly. Pretty brave here on the Goolag Tube. As an example, Dr. John Campbell's channel survived and had to go a long route to avoid being taken down. Best to you and your family. God bless.
The big advantage for disc brakes is that you can run wider tyres. I am limited to maybe 28mm tires on my rim brake road bike, but on a disc frame I could easily run 30+
I have an old steel frame touring bike. It’s got rim brakes, it’s limited to 37mm tyres. 😉
They also don't destroy your rims. Especially if you use your bicycle daily in all types of weather conditions. Have been a professional bicycle mechanic since 1985 . I liked disk brakes since I was first starting to see them. The newer ones are very reliable and well suited for most poeple. I was surprised it took so long for pro road bikes to get them considering the advantages when using tubulars and carbon fiber rims.
Totalmente I say the same to my customers. Great video. Could you link your ride vids with your garmin so we can see the route profile and speed? Fun to see.
I have a strava under the same name, however I don’t upload very often. (I will try to change that!) I don’t own a Garmin, just an old Polar that doesn’t do telemetry pairing with video. But perhaps it’s time I got myself something new… although I don’t like the idea of people knowing how slow I am. 🤣
The sheer fact that this person says that his "Iphone" is the best thing since slice bread shows that he is NOT a tech person. Almost all techies would own an Android phone. Having said that, some of what he says is true. It is all about maximizing profits for bike manufacturers. But they have beeb taking it too far, making bikes too expensive and alienating many of their customers in the process.
My friend, I never said I was a “tech person.” Im just saying when it comes to technology I like it if it adds benefits to my life. I did have an Android for my work phone. It was cheap and had way too many bugs, like it would randomly decide not to inform me of things like messages. 😅 I switched to my old iPhone 6s for that job and bought another iPhone. Now I never miss a message. 😊
Good to have you back Reg -- I finally pulled the trigger on a Ti bike, mechanical all the way. I don't want the world of software and batteries to intrude on my enjoyment of cycling.
Wonderful news! Another angle got his wings. 😂
Very happy riding to you my friend and welcome to the elite club. 🤝🏼
Here from Controversial Cyclist, stayed for the sub 👌This channel is on point
Thank you, yes I just found out about his channel, I’m looking forward to watching his content. 😁
I bought my first brand new road bike, a Giant Contend SL1 2021 (disc). Every is easy to service and repair so far! All my friends (some in the bike industry) said I needed to go clipless, carbon and Di2/Sram electronic gears. I have Shimano clipless with soft clip in/out and can wear any clipless compatible footwear. I am weary of electronic shifting because I have had friends who forgot to charge battery! I have mixed views about carbon frames, but would love titanium. I agree with some of the points made. I have cycled well over 20,000 miles on my bike since buying it 2 years ago. I think I have spent less than £2000, including spares and repairs.
That’s great! I’m glad you have found a bike and system that works for you. It’s also good that you made your own logical choices rather than being pressured to buy something. 🙂👍🏻
If I were getting another carbon bike, which I'm not since I had two of them when nobody else had them and that was the main fun of it, I would get an Elves because it seems all the expert bike heads are finding fault with them so I interpret that as there must be something OK about them.
Ha ha that’s a very interesting way of looking at it. That’s worth investigating. 🤔😄
Exactly what I was thinking when looking at electric groupsets. I'll stick to my mechanical stuff.
Good for you! 🙂
As Alex Jones would say "They're turning the bikes gay". If you don't get the joke, look up some of his quotes.
Oh no I get the joke and I love it! 😂👍🏻
Alex Jones is controlled opposition
What small bike brand is boldly bucking these trends? The Ti builders? Others that make affordable AL or Steel bikes without the tech/subscription/battery affliction?
Some, most have to make some modern bikes to survive because that’s what the population has been told to want. But if you go small brand/custom/China/boutique/second hand you can still get excellent bikes. Or lean to make them yourself? 😅
The utter corruption of the modern bike industry really is something to behold. Total contempt for the customer. The simple fact that complete, proven, frauds like zero friction cycling are taken seriously & given a platform is disgusting. Edit: Zero friction cycling also patrols comment sections & uses fake sockpuppet accounts to mock critics, there's one in this thread already.
It seems to be everyone that is screwing us to be honest… everyone including the government just wants to squeeze every penny out of you.
Ride safe my friend! 🙏🏻
@@reginaldscot165 zero friction cycling is a criminal. Not joking, he uses illegal marketing methods & abuses anybody who questions his credentials & results. Absolutely vile human being.
@@papalegba6796 🤔 Reminds me of somebody else I know… 😂
@@reginaldscot165 mate, wax is not a suitable lubricant for roller chains, because it is a solid, not a fluid. This is well accepted engineering practice, & there's hundreds of years of industrial science behind it, it's not even vaguely debatable. Zero friction cycling refuses to disclose his credentials, or whether his results have been peer reviewed, or replicated by accredited testing facilities, he just abuses anybody who questions him using the hundreds of obvious sockpuppet accounts he controls. None of this is legal. None of it. I've been trying for months to get simple answers from him but all he does is abuse me & evade answering, it's ridiculous. Industrial lubricants come with technical data sheets, best practice advice, etc, but bike stuff can be called "super secret" & sold at a huge mark up with zero evidence of it even being a real lubricant, it is simply insane & utterly unsafe, a genuine farce.
@@reginaldscot165 uncool deleting my comments mate. Zero friction cycling makes money from giving advice & selling products that defy hundreds of years of scientific research on roller chain lubrication methods, & refuses to answer simple questions about his credentials & methodology. Those are facts. Wax is NOT a suitable lubricant for roller chains, because it is a solid, not a fluid. That is also a fact.
Spot On Bro!!!
Glad you think so! 👍🏻😅 All the best!
1. Kestrel Talon SL with R6600 Groupset + R7800 Drifters + Mavic Wheels (Low mile).
2. Kool Stop Pads + Conti Tires + New Cables.
3. Strip all the components off the Kestrel and refurb.
3. New Ti Frame from ChooChoo Town.
Under $2,000 USD total.
They can sell their $16,000 CF Superbikes to the gullible.
Ha ha brilliant 🤩
All the new tech leads to decision fatigue. I own a Giant Contend 3 from 2017 in size ML. I ride for fitness and because i actually enjoy riding and taking in the scenes. Great way to explore a town or city. It’s pretty much stock except for that I ordered a new saddle the other day (cant wait for that as I realized that might be the biggest reason why my ass hurts riding like 20 miles this seat is narrow and the seat coming in is the fabric scoop shallow), i changed the pedals to clipless, and the tires are relatively new. It uses rim brakes and the main reason I want to upgrade is to allow for wider tires. It doesn’t work with anything wider that 25mm. It looks like disc brake is more common and rim brakes are gone, but even here in the states with Memorial Day weekend, finding a bike is tough under 2500 usd or even far less than that is tough.
Yes the saddle is very important and personal. I’d recommend trying a few. Maybe at a bike fit? Or try before you buy or second hand? When you find “the one.” You will be friends for life. ❤️
Also:
Make sure your fit is good.
Get thick bar tape and gloves.
Move position on the bike to relax.
Make sure you relax and bend your elbows.
Pick the right tyres, the more armour they have the less comfortable they will be.
Try latex or TPU tubes.
Get your tyres pressure right.
Drop weight out your pockets if you can.
Pick the right shorts/bibs. Go for mid range in price. Normally they are the best.
Use a lightweight helmet.
Hope this helps! 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 what’s the midrange in bib price and as for lightweight helmets I have a big head so I’d probably go for the Rapha poc since that’s one of the lightest I’ve seen. Thoughts on the canyon endurance in aluminum?
That's a crazy heavy Propel. I owned a Propel Advanced 1 which I made no attempt to make it light. It had Shimano RS10 wheels a Roadlink derailleur extender and a XT 11-40 cassette and it weighed 8.8 kilogrammes. I own a 2003 Specialized Rockhopper mountain bike that with pedals is 9.8 kilogrammes.
Yes, it’s amazing how heavy the new frame and stem are. And the group set and disc brakes add a lot of weight. 🫣
Hardly a conspiracy theory. BMW already do that with many features for their latest cars.
That’s probably my fault for waiting so long to say anything about this. 😄
@reginaldscot165 It nice to hear someone who's awake of what been expedited since Convid.
Mercedes benz too!
I am with you on a lot of stuff. I have a rim brake Lightspeed. It's electronic shifting, not wireless. But Litespeed required extra for the gear cable bosses. So I got used electronic.
I’d always spend the extra for the cable back up option. It’s not much more and 1 day if you need it the cost to get that added will be considerably higher. However I’m sure it looks nice. 🙂👍🏻
Great talk! I agree with you 100%! My road bike is 14 years old, 10 speed and I'm gonna keep it going as long as I can. I'm not a slave to marketing and I reckon I'm more of a cyclist than all of the 'all the gear no idea' cyclists out there. I wouldn't dream of putting any part that needs a battery or chip on my bike!
Good man! Glad to have you (a real cyclist 😉) with us. 😁👍🏻
This is the first exactly the same situation I am in thank you for this video I want a propel too and I ride a tcr at present . You and durian rider are the best ❤😊 28:26
Ah shucks! ☺️ You made me blush. 🥰
@@reginaldscot165 you have just stopped me buying the new propel. I am going to try and get an old specialised tarmac or sl4. Thanks king 👑
I won't lie, my heart sank when i seen a Giant bike on the thumbnail....!! Thankfully, my newly acquired Giant TCR Advanced in mechanical Ultegra meets with your approval 😅
Ha ha that was a close one! 😅
All the best! 🙂
Spot on logic
Amazing 🤩 thanks! 🙏🏻
I agree with what you say totally
That’s awesome! 🙏🏻🙂
Most modern bikes are vanity projects, integrated cables, brand only stem / handlebars / seat posts, seat post clamp designs that don't work. Bikes are meant to be a greener form of transport and we are batteries more and more, carbon (which can be recycled but not as easily as steel / aluminium) and tubeless tyre sealant. I do think ebikes have a place but a lot of the batteries cannot be recelled as this damages the battery management system. This is why the self conversion market is growing as you can keep the outer case and get new batteries put in. Great video as always
Excellent comment with some good points! Thanks 🙏🏻 😊
Hookless rims very dangerous.Role off .
Agreed 👍🏻
Hey Reginald as a new cyclist what's your opinion on disc breaks vs rim (non-hydrophilic)? In theory wouldn't disc breaks be better since it's not putting wear on the rim?
Given that I've seen at least one professional race over the last few years where the batteries weren't charged on the shifters I agree that mechanical works best.
Great question and let me apologise for not making a video on this subject yet. But I have one in the pipeline and it will be out in the next few weeks. However if you are in a rush to buy a bike I’d recommend rim 9/10 times. (Not knowing more about your personal situation. 👍🏻🙂
Completely agree. They starting to mess around with brakes now, also ABS is coming, I already dislike it it on motorbikes. With it, people are only encouraged to brake later.
Today, as often, a car coming fast out of a side street had just in time braked for me.
I don’t think ABS is a bad technology. Especially for cars! But it’s just so unnecessary for bikes. And it would only add significantly more weight for no real benefit.
nice video, I guess the bike industry is taking the same path as the car industry, creating more disposable and complicated products. I would like you to help me with this I can't find an answer on internet, is it possible to fit shimano 105 r7000 chainrings on a rs510 crankset?
Yes I definitely think they are following the car industry. That’s a good question, I don’t know for sure… however the BCD is the same, the bolt number is the same and they look very similar. So it’s say it’s a good chance they do. Normally the outer shape isn’t quite the same when you cross cranks and rings, but if you run into any fitting issues then perhaps a gentle brush with a metal file might be the solution? (With in reason!) 😅
All the best! 🙂👍🏻
What’s the % grade of that short climb section?
No idea. Unfortunately my Polar computer doesn’t show that data unless you log on the it via desktop computer. But there is another hill I go up that I know reaches 19% and this feels very similar.
you said all right my friend, but we don't run the show, we are the consumers. Sheep for shearing. :-) Honestly, it never occurred to me that one day someone would want to take a subscription to ride a bike. The world as we know it has come close to ending
Perhaps, let’s hope not. 😅
Around 2000, I bought a Trek 5500 frame (not Postal paint, but Postal inspired), Ultegra 9 speed, Chris King headset, Thompson seatpost, Hugi hubs, in short a very nice build. Weighs ~17 lbs. We were in Utah at the time and I never need anything lower than the 39/27 I had specifically for a couple of absolute killer hills. Now we live in a flatter area and I rarely touch the 39/23. These new 12 speeds with 36/30 seem silly to me. Maybe for a new rider, but then what new rider is going to pay $5K starting out? If you want to get down to the weight of my bike, you are going to have to spend over $6K. Disc brakes? I've never had an issue stopping my bike from over 50mph with rim brakes. I do like the disc on a MTB, but I'm on and off brakes much more then. It just seems that the bikes are being marketed to people base on what they "think" they need versus what actually works best. Tech for Tech's sake is not an improvement. Shimano and SRAM are equally at fault. I'd love a 10 or even 11 speed non-electronic groupo in Ultegra or Dura-Ace, but alas, we are in the minority. Fortunately, I can still get mechanical XT and XTR. On the last bike I built with mechanical XT, a complete group was under $700 (brakes, crank, shifter, derailluer, cassette, etc.). The equivalent SRAM setup was closer to $2000! Ridiculous!
Great comment, you are so right about the why they are marketing the bikes to people.
All the best and safe riding! 😊
@@reginaldscot165 I just really liked your video and message. You are so spot on!
How are Tpu tubes? Heard they might explode in heavy braking
I have 2 really good videos on this subject. Just scroll down on my page and look for a video from 11 months ago on the TPU tubes and 8 months ago about used them down a mountain! 👍🏻🙂
While I'm a big metal fan (my road bike is titanium and my gravel/commuter bike is steel), and I agree with you on full cable integration, I'm going to have to disagree on both disc brakes and electronic group sets. As a daily bike commuter, and someone who does all of his own maintenance work, disc brakes are clearly better in the wet, have better stopping power even in the dry, don't treat your rims like consumable parts, and allow you to continue riding even if your rims get out of true for whatever reason and you can't fix them on the road. And the precision of the shifting of electronic groupsets is pretty amazing, auto trim and sycro shifting is really nifty, and again as someone who does all his own work, they're so much easier to set up (especially the front derailleur) than a mechanical groupset. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against mechanical (my commuter runs mechanical, after all) but electronic groupsets definitely are not deserving of hatred.
I disagree on e-groups and discs (unless for off-road) but I’m glad we agree on mental bikes. 😉
Do you live in Indonesia? Great vid, subscribed.
Much love from New Zealand.
No I’m not brave enough for their roads! 😅
I’m in the wonderful “Abode of peace and the land of Hidden Treasures.”
AKA: Brunei Darussalam 🇧🇳 ❤️
All the best back to you! 🙂
Thoughts on tpu vs latex?
I have a video on that subject. Just look for the title that mentions TPU tubes. 😊👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 thanks!
Should I wear a helmet while biking?
In my opinion? Yes.
Agree with you 100% on the technology thing, bikes were supposed to be simple machines.
Thanks! ❤️
Reginald how do you feel about BB's? I am using bog standard BSA square tapers and they work fine but people tell me hollow tech feels smoother and better, plus is lighter. Are they full of shit?
It is hard to beat square taper bottom brackets for longevity. The hollow tech type is lighter but the smoothest and most durable bbs have always been square taper, in my experience.
@@Mafacracer are there any better than un300 quality ones you'd recommend? My last one died in less than 500km. Bearings just flat out exploded out the frame.
@@MarmiteFerret I mostly buy Tange Seiki bottom brackets as they seem to be decent quality and fairly cheap. LN-7922 JIS is one I've used in several bikes. The higher spec Shimano bbs are also good but harder to come by these days.
I got several NOS cup and cone old school.adjustable and maintainable bbs for peanuts on Ebay. They last way longer than the sealed throwaway ones.
I was just about to post a “short” video about this. 😅 The square taper is the smoothest BB you will ever use, they are incredibly reliable, run beautifully for long periods of time and are cheap to buy! In fact most of the old cheap bikes I get in the shop come with them. They spin better than any shimano 24mm BB86, even better than a ceramic speed one!
However the pay off is: they are somewhat heavier than more modern systems. You will need a crank puller to get your crank off and it’s not the most enjoyable tool to use. Hollow Tech is was faster for maintenance. And I have personally noticed they flex more, so they don’t feel as stiff as modern cranks/BB systems.
But if you don’t sprint a lot that’s not a problem at all. 🤷🏻♂️🙂👍🏻
How hard would it be to put a timer in your $1800 groupset? After 5 years, or ____ number of shift/brake cycles, the software dies. You then have to buy a complete new groupset. $50 USD for a pair of V-brakes on that old, functional commuter? No, no and NO!
Great comment. 👌🏻😎
They won't have to put a timer in it. Modern electronics exposed to the dust, mud, cold/heat and rain will make it inoperative and I read on many bike forums Shimano/SRAM don't support the market with spares after ~5 years.
Rim brakes just plain suk in the rain and especially the snow...pads that do work in these conditions eat rims like candy. Yes my ancient highly modified Raleigh C50 with shortened chain stays and an appropriate fork still has cantilever brakes and I change the pads when I put my winter wheels on . Plenty of like new bent and staightenable rims in the srap bin that I can lace a newer rim onto fir the next couple of winters. It's amazing how thin some of rims braking surface is on so many year round commuters when they finally come in for a" tune up " . Yeah they usually need more ....much more.
Imma be honest, I got myself an old Bianchi Mega Pro (the alloy 7005 version from Pantani's era) and it's ALL mechanical with rim brakes and a Campagnolo Veloce 10spd groupset... Round tubes, visible welding, all aluminum.
I'll run it as long as it lasts.
Good for you. 👍🏻🙂
A possible upside of electronic brakes is giving thieves a nasty surprise , if you could do that remotely. Taking the batteries out when leaving the bike may also be a possibility ! Thankfully their are still companies like Microshift that hopefully won't succumb to the trends of the industry giants. What will probably happen is that the bad times will carry on a few decades. Hopefully then there will be a big customer backlash and smaller industry players will step in and sort the mess out. The ' old school ' stuff will probably always be available in places like India , unless they make the same mistakes with ' progress ' that we in the 'West' have ?
I've shunned electric shifting as if I were a luddite. I love cycling without battery reliance & therefore use a magneto. Disc brakes are an easy pass, I might need to up my awareness in certain cases in the wet but otherwise happy. I'm not a racer so no need to even look at tires without inner tubes. Because I now prefer a road tourer setup I've relied on alloy last14yr & it is a very reliable metal. But your speculation on the control issue are new to me & have to say are credible. When you aired thoughts on an eco-issue before I sided with you. After a new subscription I looked up my old comment to find it no longer existed & only comments that argued v your position were visible. They are such weaklings.
Interesting, I was always of the belief that my video on the environment had been pushed down in the algorithm. For such a catchy title and thumbnail it should have done better. I have also only ever deleted 1 comment in all the years I’ve been doing this and that was a threat of violence. Normally I leave all comments alone.
Thank you so much for your comment and your views. It’s much appreciated. 🙏🏻🙂 All the best.
May i ask where is the location of this ride? Nice roads and scenery, but not too remote.
Brunei around Mata Mata. 🙂
smiling while thinking of my mechanical shifting rim brake Pinarello F8, the thing needs the maintenance of a chair almost. Truly a worry free experience, year after year.
Wonderful to hear! 😊👍🏻
All well and good. But nothing is free. I have the AXS. Love it on my Turbo Levo. I rode really nit much on my road bike. Tired of lots of flats, etc. I am past 3,000 miles including during the pandemic. Both approaches are good. My manual bike stayed perfectly tuned maybe 10% of the time. My ebike is 90+%. Do what feels best.
“Do what feels best” that’s actually a very deeply philosophical statement. 🤔😉
Not sure about the shifter batteries story. I have had a 2017 sram red hrd on my rim brake bike and replaced the batteries only this year and the bike did have periods of not use typically couple weeks each winter. Mind the shifters were still working perfectly fine, but I had just decided it was safer to replace those batteries after such a long time as I thought I had likely been risking having them die any time soon. What I agree with is the trouble with finding replacements. If any of the bits of that group set got damaged beyond repair, I would be struggling to find a replacement at the moment. Although in my experience, my sram group set was perfectly reliable for all those years and hope it will keep on going for a couple more years.
Meanwhile, just listened to the latest Nero podcast - a question from a listener: "are aero bikes worth it" (assumed he meant the frame set). Their answer: first made a sarky reply saying nah just buy a $1k dollars gravel bike and ride that. Then went on to a "serious" answer and Miller said something along this "you can't feel the gain, you can't measure the gain, but it is definitely there". I had to re-listen that twice to ensure I heard it right.
Nero… Yeah… they are shills. Especially because one of the presenters rides a rim TCR 😂 why didn’t he just recommend that???
As for the batteries, I promise they were dead. ☺️ Maybe cheap batteries? Maybe the high humidity here? Maybe not being used for over a year?
A lot of batteries I have in the house seem to burst here? I’m wondering if it’s the weather?
All the best and nice to hear from you! 👍🏻🙂
I'm in my 3rd year on an electronic sram groupset and i haven't changed the shifter batteries yet. The bike sits unused over the winter each year for 3 or 4 months.
I've had to have the shifter cables changed twice on my ultegra (6800?) 2015 bike that has been attached to a trainer mostly for years now.
I think maintenance attitudes about new systems compared to old are somewhat influenced by being so used to the downsides of the old systems that they're not even viewed as downsides anymore. I like to imagine what the complaints would be if the transition went the other way. Heh
You mean i have to find a bike shop to get new shifter cables when I can buy a new coincell battery anywhere?
No way for the conspiracy theory. You can always buy a rim brake bike on gum tree... plus China sells mechanical groupsets
Until when? They are already making e-groups of their own.
@@reginaldscot165 durianrider is buying every mechanical parts from marketplaces! 😂. Sooner we all gonna be buying from him.
Great video Reginald. Sometimes I think that although you may be right, some people just want to know for themselves, and that’s a superior form of knowledge. That said 6-years as a customer, I’d imagine he could trust you by now. Maybe it’s all those conspiracy-esque things you say that make him second guess you. 😂 I sure hope you’re wrong about that subscription-based groupset but the internet of things is a thing after all. Does Klaus Schwab ride eTap or Di2?
Yes well unfortunately I’m 1 guy at one bike shop who would give this advice and all the other bike shops and all his friends would say “No Bro, buy the modern aero bike, with e-group and discs Bro, you will be much faster Bro!” 🙄🤣
I think he probably rides an armoured car with blacked out windows. 😉
I gave up on cycling in my country. Prices of the bikes are through the roof, accessories too. Not counting the increase of bikes been stolen everywhere, also the prices of bike insurance sky high!
Oh no! That’s such a shame. But you don’t need an expensive bike, some of the most fun I’ve had is on a bike I bought for $50 and put together with old parts. It’s my most versatile and carefree bike! ❤️😎👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 I’ll try that someday. Thanks.
I don't agree with your position against modern bike technology. But yet, I do agree with the government seeking complete control over our lives. I have heard people also say that self driving cars will be used to control where you can drive. If you try to leave your 15 minute city, your car simply won't go to where you want it to. This control over cars and bikes pales in comparison to the implementation of CBDC's, which is truly frightening.
Very frightening indeed, especially when you are the only person in the room that can see the danger coming… 😱
Good video, except for the government bit. Corporations will absolutely charge for what they can though. Definitely glad to have a gotten my hands on a bike with rim brakes, tubed tires, aluminium and external cabling.
I hope I am wrong about everything, wouldn’t that be nice. 😂
Good for you! Safe riding! 🙂👍🏻
Just a heads up that “innovation” does not imply that things get better. It just means that it’s different / novel.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Using a bike that hasn´t been used for a year as an arguments against electronic shifting because the battery is dead is a bit extreme imo.
Why? Isn’t it a perfectly valid argument when a cable group set wouldn’t have failed? Is that not the point I’m trying to make, that such technology requires a greater commitment of time and care. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Come on! Leaving a bike unused for year is and expecting it to work flawlessly is pretty optimistic imo. Even a bike with a mechanical groupset needs a look over after being unused after a year. I don´t care what you say, but no matter which lubrication you use it will have dried out. Not everyone has the possibility to store their bike(s) in perfect conditions (temperature, humidity etc.), and that will also be a reason why many people should look over their bike before riding it for the first time after 12 months.
When it comes to electronic groupsets I would argue that it´s bad maintenance not to look after the battery/batteries at all during 12 months. Just like you phone and your laptop it does need recharging from time to time, and most people wouldn´t expect their phone/laptop to be 100% after leaving it unused for 12 months either. I get it, you don´t like electronic groupsets and you have some valid arguments as well, but just like disc brakes their both here to stay so why don´t let people choose what they want without portraying them as stupid?
But even if tubeless tires, electronic shifting and disc brakes doesn´t improve your cycling experience it might do for others. So the tech might be good/better for some.
Yes you are right actually, I mean this equipment is of equivalent benefit to road cyclists as a *kick in the teeth* is to a non cyclist. However unlikely or uncommon, some people actually do need a good *kick in the teeth.* in fact I can think of several prominent people who would benefit greatly from a robust *kick in the teeth.* So as much as I wouldn’t wish that bike technology on my worst enemies I concede that someone somewhere might have been bad enough to deserve it. 🤣
But all jokes aside I really do appreciate your opinion and your alternative perspective on everything. I think it’s really important to have a good variety of thoughts on any of my videos.
All the best and safe riding! ❤️
BMW already doing this with the cars - BMW ConnectedDrive (especially heated seats).
Other manufacturers will follow suite. Not keen on Tesla cars either, get spied on internally and externally 24-7.
Bikes are monkey see monkey do and think they are something they are not and will and are following the same model as above.
That’s so true, your average NPC consumer will buy what they are told without thinking of the consequences in the future. They can’t see past the end of their nose. 🤷🏻♂️
Good to know I’m not alone however. We happy few. 🫡
The electronic braking (and government control?!) rant totally sets off my conspiracy theory alarm. Really respect you as a bike mechanic and respect that you have your own opinion, but this is crazy imo.
Let’s wait and see. It’s amazing how normal thing today were once considered impossible a few years before. 😌
@@reginaldscot165 How many years have we had electronic groupsets and hydraulic disc brakes now? Many things in this world frighten me and makes me doubt how bright our future on this planet is, but these two things are not on my list.
i do agree on certain things and disagree on others, i do agree the prices are way to high and the manufacturers are pushing us to the direction they want, and you might be right on subscription based features in the future. i also agree on the tubeless shit and the hookless rims i run tpu's and latex innertubes on my bikes for the last 3 years and never had a problem with it.
but the rant about disc brakes are heavy is getting old news, for example in 2014 i owned a sworks tarmac sl4 top spec with rim brakes on the scales that bike was 6.9kg including pedals and bottle cages.
these day's i own a sworks tarmac sl8 top spec that hit the scale at 6.6kg with all the shizzle on it, so the discussion about the weight can be stopped.
and you're admiration on ti bikes is nice but i also owned a van nicolas ti bike and although aesthetic it was the nicest bike i've ever owned, on the road it was a nightmare to ride , it was heavy, it was slow and gave me no comfort at all, but that was 9 years ago and maybe the modern ti bikes are better now.
greetings from belgium
Hello to you in Belgium!
Well, Van Nic bikes moved their production to China. I have a customer who I was trying to convince to buy a Litespeed and he unfortunately opted to buy a much cheaper VN from a competitor because the group set looked better for the same price. He bought the VN for a fit and it was nothing in comparison with the LS. Incredibly overbuilt and heavy and according to him not that comfortable? They basically got nothing of value out of the material. It’s a shame, they give Ti bikes a bad name. Don’t even offer a lifetime warranty that most Ti manufacturers do. 🥺
As for your SL4 Vs SL8. Well the SL4 should be lighter for less money. There is no logical reason why it wouldn’t be. I had a customer with a small SL8 and he spent like $20,000 BND to make it close to 6.8kg. And the point is not that disc bikes can’t be light. It’s just the same bike in disc will always be heavier than it’s rim brother and to get it that light you need to spend way more money. At the same time I don’t see the benefit discs bring in reality that would inspire me to spend that money.
Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and all the best to your continued safe cycling! 🙂👍🏻
Agree with you 100% on the government control "tech" and I won't be buying any E brakes that's for sure. I disagree 100% with you on tubeless though. I cannot tell you the last time I have gotten a flat tire while riding tubeless. The primary thing about tubeless is that it has to be set up correctly. I've seen a lot of people not doing it correctly and then flatting. I'm open for discussing it with anyone. Great channel ya got here. Hope you keep 'em coming.
Might be your location. If you ride in places where the main issue is thorns and small car tyre metal then tubeless might work fine. (Minus all the other issues mentioned in my video all about why I’d never go tubeless) But if you live somewhere where there is glass, flint, or other sharp debris you will get an uneven cut or jagged slash and that won’t seal! So you would be in big trouble. (Like this customer, his tyre was set up correctly, he just got a hole that wouldn’t seal.) At this stage you have simply been lucky. I personally haven’t had a flat in months and I use tubes. It’s mostly down to luck. But do check out my other video if you enjoyed this one. 🙂🙏🏻
All the best and safe riding! ❤️
@@reginaldscot165 LOL I was just giving you a hard time because I live in the States. Ha ha
@@reginaldscot165 I have gotten a sidewall cut, but for that you can use a gel pack or $1 bill to put over it and then a tube to get back home. I have used latex tubes and they do ride really nice, but I seemed to flat more often than regular tubes. I think it's like you say, "Down to luck". Like you not riding tubies, I'll never not ride them. Love the Lightspeed video.
If you had a 1X mullet (10 - 52 eagle), with slick AXS electronic shifting, that hill would have been easy for you.
If I was on my Ti bike at 6.4kg or on my old steel bike with its triple chainrings then that would also be true. 😂😉
Agree with almost all of this. I do think, for human-powered bicycles, electronic brakes are a non-starter for a basket of reasons, not least power, feedback, and responsiveness. You're not getting braking power out of a coin cell or a Di2 battery, you're not going to want to guess the traction of your tires from G-forces, and there's no system (certainly not wireless) that won't introduce delays in actuation. We're only just beginning to see electronically-actuated hydraulic brakes in cars, and that's with a bunch of redundancy and unlimited power budget.
That’s a great comment. You have given us plenty more information to consider about this technology. 👍🏻
Ride safe! 🙂👍🏻
If you own and run a bike shop why don´t you have a charger (for electronic groupsets)?
Because I’m poor and I don’t have the money to buy a charger for a group set I don’t own and only 2 customers of mine (that I might see 1 time a year) actually have. I learned my lesson after buying BB tools that nobody in Brunei actually owns the BB for! 🤣
@@reginaldscot165 Sounds like you need to charge your customers more.
only buying alloy with mechanical groupsets.
Steel is also worth the money. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Any recommended companies to check out that put out a good steel bike these days?