Sukuna was able to doge lightning (vs kashimo) and sukuna scale to country cuz in the manga they revealed that a special grade scorer can destroy a country
@@Ali-qy9wt dodging lightning is an mhs feat, and special grades are said to be able to TAKE OVER a country on their own not destroy it, its very different and either way feats>statements so who cares
Speed is completely useless in a battle like this. Picture this: You (can move at the speed of light) Vs Me(can react to light speed attacks) Who do you think is winning?
@@v_vexxit's "overthrow", not "take over" and kenjaku said that's the modern requirements, like it's laughable. And why would dumdum cursed spirits want to "take over" a country?
@@chideradavidnnagbo4121 so what? the guy moving at ftl just has to attack him with an attack powerful enough so that the other cant block it, and since the guy who can react to ftl attacks cant dodge it because he cant move at that speed, hes cooked
Yeah shigaraki has some crazy feats sukuna has way more skill and intelligence I think it’ll be closer fight than this video makes it out to be I can see it going both ways tho
@@Gabriel-fi7nv 1-Shigaraki is already a nomu, so shigaraki was always under the control of AFO. In other words, AFO is shigaraki himself because he handed himself over to him. 2-AFO's IQ and Shigaraki's battle IQ are hundreds of times better than Sukuna. Also, if you look at the scaling of the events between the two verses, you will see that Shigaraki and AFO's achievements are more comprehensive 3-Also, we know that Shigaraki has the same speed and power as Prime Allmight even without using a single uniqueness. It is ignorance to think that Sukuna, a maximum city level character, will defeat Shigaraki, who is thousands of times stronger and faster than him, even without using a single power.
Shit even in the strength department Shiggy being scaled by villains and heros multiple times to almost be All Might level should put him far above Sukuna
People don't understand how powerful all might is he was compared to a version of superman by the creator he didn't specify which one but still he said if superman didn't have the long ranged ability of heat vision all might would win
No. - Sukuna took 200% purple three times - Walked out of his own nuke completely unscathed (fuga) - 9 space distorting black flashes from yuji (and it increases the power of the hit to the power of 2.5, not multiplying by 10) - Took full output Jacobs ladder twice - tanked all of Gojo's punches (gojo's punches are enhanced with blue, according to kusakabe, it basically vortex space itself, to increase the hit damage) - two black flashes from Gojo - a soul split katana to the heart - had his second tongue, face, and arms cut off - tanked lightning blasts from kashimo The only reason he was beaten was because yuji's punches were reducing his output. Sukuna can see, heal, and harm the soul. Sukuna can even resurrect himself (well, his host) Durability goes to sukuna. Yes, shigaraki can kill mahoraga(hold up, on jujutsu can end jujutsu tho), but sukuna can use his Technique and move the "burden of adaptation" to megumi's soul, allowing him to even ignore taking damage (since megumi is taking the damage for him, and he can always heal his soul) Sukuna still ends him.
Sukuna didn’t tank “200%” Purple three times. He tanked one 200% purple, then he got hit by the purple nuke by Gojo, which almost killed him, and then tanked a very weak purple by Yuta in Gojo’s body. Sukuna is impressive, kinda, yes, but. He’s no where close to Shigaraki. Shigaraki’s Decay alone destroyed a whole mountain, and then he later stated that with a single touch, he can decay 596,000 km of land once he decays Mount Fuji. Shigaraki decimates.
- Sukuna only took one 200% Purple with CE Reinforcements. Gojo's omnidirectional Hollow Purple was just in physical form + incantation. Yuta's was also incantation amp. - Sure Divine Flame's nuke is impressive, but it doesn't come close to Shigiraki's durability. Shigaraki withstood a powerful clap that blew clouds away, just about over 30km in an instant. Then there's 75% Shigaraki scaling to, if not scale above Nine surviving two 100% One For All users (Right after they blew away the massive storm too), comparable to when Deku and All Might smashed a giant cube moving at fast speeds, generating force that surpasses anything Divine Flames can do. - Black Flash is cool and all. the power of 2.5 is extremely sus depending where you scale them. Like solar system sus. Still a good multiplier though regardless. - Hana's Jacob Ladder didn't do much compared to Yuta's copied one, since her output was low and all. Besides that, yeah. - It was actually one black flash from Gojo, which knocked him unconscious. - Durability Negation, not a durability feat. - Endurance and Stamina exists. Having certain parts taken off and still fight for a good while is just endurance. - Cool? Deku and Bakugo tanked lightning mid air from Nine. Sukuna is aware of his own soul and can heal it, yeah. He definitely has not attempted to harm anyone's soul in the entire battle (Not saying he can't cause Mahito but just won't.) Even then, it falls short when Shigaraki is protecting his own soul. Where did the resurrection thing come from? Are you talking about when he incarnated Megumi's body into his original form (Not resurrection) or when Sorcerers comes back in a day or two? Durability goes to Shigaraki, even as early as when he came back from the dead. That... He never transferred physical damage to Megumi, only spiritual. Only case Sukuna did this was during the domain clashes to make Unlimited Void useless and let Megumi take the information and burden the adaptation. You really can't prove that he can transfer physical damage, since the entire battle start to end would quite literally disagree with you if you were to try. Even if I humor you, Shigaraki decay spreads instantly and leaves no room for Sukuna to do squat. Sukuna has no time to adapt to anything Shigaraki unleashes. A healthy Sukuna, in his original form, freezes and sees his own death in 75% Shigaraki's presence
Out of every ability of both fighters the only aspect of their kits i feel comfortable giving the edge to shigaraki is durability. Sukuna has better strength feats, relative speed feats, overwhelming better hax and intelligence the fight would be close for a bit but sukuna would mid-high diff shiggy imo.
Shigaraki is prime All Might level in strength. That alone puts him to Continental or slightly below. He's nearly as fast as Deku so almost 4000 x FTL. His decay ignores durability and can spread over several kilometers in 1 second. His Impact Recoil can reflect any attack. His Hyper Regeneration can heal his entire body in 0.0013 seconds. He completely destroys Sukuna
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 deku has never shown to be “4000 x ftl”, he has been shown to be light speed (which by the way is him nearly perception blitzing shiggy). Decay has never shown to “ignore durability” in fact it’s shown to scale with it multiple times (especially in the final arc). Shiggy has never shown to be “prime all might level in strength” in fact his physical strength is shown to be pretty weak comparatively to others in the same series but we can’t know because he is always using decay instead of brute force. Respectfully, do I really need to keep going.
this is why Sukuna would win. Power Scale and Abilities: Shigaraki: At his peak, Shigaraki has immense destructive power due to the combined abilities of multiple Quirks, including "Decay," which can disintegrate anything he touches, and "All For One," which allows him to steal and use other Quirks. His durability, regeneration, and strength are all enhanced to superhuman levels. Sukuna: In his Heian Era form, Sukuna was considered the King of Curses, feared as an unstoppable force even among other powerful sorcerers and curses. He has access to an array of Cursed Techniques, immense cursed energy reserves, and his Domain Expansion, "Malevolent Shrine," which can guarantee hits within its range. Sukuna’s abilities are incredibly versatile, allowing for high adaptability in combat. 2. Adaptability and Combat Experience: Shigaraki: While he has grown into a formidable fighter, Shigaraki’s combat experience is relatively limited compared to Sukuna. He relies heavily on brute strength and overwhelming power, which might not be enough against a strategic opponent like Sukuna. Sukuna: Sukuna is an ancient being with centuries of combat experience. His tactical intelligence, experience, and mastery of Cursed Techniques give him a significant advantage in a fight where strategy is as important as raw power. 3. Defensive and Offensive Versatility: Shigaraki: His regeneration and decay are potent, but they require physical contact or proximity. His other Quirks provide versatility, but they often rely on overpowering his opponent. Sukuna: Sukuna can attack from a distance, utilize his innate domain for guaranteed hits, and employ various techniques that don't require direct contact. His cursed energy attacks could potentially bypass Shigaraki’s defenses, especially with his level of cursed energy manipulation. 4. Domain Expansion vs. Quirks: Shigaraki: While powerful, Shigaraki’s abilities might struggle against Sukuna's Domain Expansion, which guarantees hits within its range. His quirks could be countered by Sukuna’s cursed techniques, especially given Sukuna's ability to adapt and counter various forms of energy and attacks. Sukuna: Sukuna’s Domain Expansion would give him a decisive edge, as Shigaraki has no direct counter to it. The guaranteed hit effect of Sukuna's domain could bypass Shigaraki’s defenses and regeneration, making it difficult for Shigaraki to survive in the long run. Conclusion: While Shigaraki is undoubtedly powerful, Sukuna’s experience, versatility, and overwhelming cursed energy give him the edge in this matchup. Sukuna's ability to counter various techniques, combined with his tactical prowess, would likely allow him to outmaneuver and ultimately defeat Shigaraki.
Cursed energy wouldn’t be able to bypass durability due to the fact it doesn’t do that to the heavily restricted users Toji and Maki are known for their durability despite not having having cursed energy reinforcement. Shiggy out ranges sukuna with his incredibly powerful air cannon and Omni-factor release. As well as his decay when touching the floor. There’s no evidence that DE stop regeneration or bypasses durability, and even so Gojo was able to tank it for a considerable amount of time with his lesser durability and regeneration And on to durability and regeneration. There is no single attack or feat of regeneration in jjk that surpasses Shiggy before his body was fully complete borderline face tanking and regeneration from the state-of-the-art hypersonic intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missiles Sometimes the best way to beat your opponent is just having better stats than them, having a quirk that tells you when danger is coming, and having a quirk that if you get a body shot kills your opponent almost immediately with no durability saving you then
@@SimplyThinking677 Cursed energy wouldn’t typically bypass durability, as evidenced by how Toji and Maki, despite lacking cursed energy reinforcement, can tank hits from cursed users. However, Sukuna isn’t just any cursed user; he’s the King of Curses. His cursed energy is on a whole different level, capable of adapting and overwhelming even the most durable opponents. While Toji and Maki’s durability is notable, Sukuna’s attacks, especially Cleave and Dismantle, are designed to adapt to and overcome such resilience. So while cursed energy doesn’t usually bypass durability, Sukuna’s level of cursed energy could potentially find a way through even the toughest defenses like Shigaraki’s. Shiggy does have impressive range with his air cannon, Omni-factor release, and Decay. However, Sukuna has dealt with long-range and devastating attacks before. His speed, agility, and battle experience allow him to dodge or counter ranged attacks effectively. Plus, Sukuna’s domain expansion, Malevolent Shrine, covers a wide area, potentially neutralizing Shiggy’s range advantage by attacking him within the domain’s guaranteed hit radius. Even with Omni-factor release, Sukuna’s versatility and intelligence mean he could find a way to close the gap and take advantage of any opening. There’s no direct evidence that Domain Expansion stops regeneration or bypasses durability, and Gojo did withstand it for some time. However, Gojo’s techniques are extremely advanced, and his defenses are specifically built to counter such attacks. Shiggy’s regeneration, while formidable, might not be able to fully counter the repeated and adaptive strikes from Sukuna’s techniques, which could target the very mechanisms of Shiggy’s healing process, wearing him down over time. As for durability and regeneration, Shiggy’s feat of surviving and regenerating from a hypersonic, intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missile is insane, but Sukuna’s attacks operate on a different level. There’s no single attack in JJK that matches the raw destructive power of that missile, but Sukuna’s techniques are designed to strike at the essence of his opponent’s strength. He can target Shiggy’s regeneration directly, weakening it over time until Shiggy can’t keep up with the damage. Sometimes, the best way to beat an opponent is with superior stats, instincts, and techniques. Shiggy’s Danger Sense is an impressive quirk, but Sukuna’s battle experience and adaptability might let him find ways around it. And while Shiggy’s quirks give him tremendous offensive power, Sukuna’s cursed techniques are equally dangerous, with the added bonus of adapting to the opponent’s strength. In the end, Sukuna’s combination of intelligence, cursed energy manipulation, and strategic thinking would likely allow him to overcome Shiggy’s superior stats and secure the win.
Attempting to kill a curse user without cursed energy will only turn them into a curse. If the conditions are a fight till only one remains then Shigaraki is incapable of dealing a truly finishing blow
I'm not done with MHA, but the method of beating sukuna wasn't overpowering him, but exploiting his weakness. Gege heavily states that sukuna(even tho not a full power) was still massively holding back. Power level of a character shouldn't be scaled by their output (because that can be altered) but by their total power. For example, if we were to scale Sasuke (Shippuden pre mangekyo) we would observe his battle with itachi, because that's the one where sasuke starts at full strength, and runs out of chakra. We then sum up all of his attacks, the damages to the surroundings from when he started to when he finished, the total energy equivalent is his maximum. We know then he's this(said level) or that (said level) We never see sukuna actually run out of power in a fight, we see yuji weaken his output, not his total power. (Chapter 250 - sukuna admits to be in yuta's level in terms of overall energy reserves, Chapter 258, narrator says sukuna is still at yuta's level despite yuji's chained black flashes and strikes)
Durability didn't even mention sukuna has taken multiple soul damage attacks lol shigaraki as far as i know never took anything that can harm the soul so theres no way he has better Durability, you mha fans are crazy
He has? Deku sent 6 vestiges into shigarakis soul during the final fight, which hit his soul with a meteor. He survived 6 of those attacks and still could fight fine, although now a bit weakened and under AFO control.
I think sukuna would loose due to the insane hacks and abilities shigaraki has but pure skill hand to hand sukuna will wipe the absolute floor with shigaraki but I will admit full powered is say shigaraki could overwhelm sukuna solely due to shigaraki as hacks
Sukuna is more durable (more durable than kenjaku who survived a black hole for a bit and has survived atomic destruction) and he is also faster as he is way faster than light since he dodged electro magnetic waves, He also takes hax and abilities as world slash, cleave and domain expansion are one shot abilities and Shigaraki wont even be able to see the world slash coming as he isnt a sorcerer, Sukuna negs
@@Buraq786-bm1uh Kenny survived the black due to specificity having anti gravity as an ability without that he would’ve been absolutely obliterated The light speed as always been highly debatable so I’ll give it to you And Shiggy has danger sense so he could dodge the world slash and even if he could get hit as long as it doesn’t destroy his head/brain he could heal from it And Shiggy can tank any attack Sukuna throws at him due to borderline face tanking 10 state-of-the-art hypersonic intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missiles
@@SimplyThinking677 Kenny actually tanked the black hole for a couple of seconds before activating anti grav thats why his clothes were destroyed when it ended, besides he would still need ftl reaction time to activate it before hand Sukuna could make a similar binding vow to the one he made against Gojo to make the world slash instant, The world slash can cover a massive area easily enough to completely erase a person Malevolent Shrines cleaves negate durability but shiggy can most likely outheal it but i doubt he will be able to outheal a fuga on top of that As it destroyed even Mahoraga who has crazy op regen in the anime
This is bull shit. Shigiraki cant counter malevolent shrine or maho. Sukuna hax beats shigiraki. Shigiraki most destructive attack is decay once that adapted to he has nothing. What would hands do too maho
@nehemiah7012 Sukuna would most likely sacrifice a lesser shikigame for maho to adapt safely. But if maho can adapt to meta physical abilities such as the limitless and unlimited void then he should adapt to relatively simple ability like decay.
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Sukuna Kaisen
Yet people will still say sukuna solos
Keep that in mind
Quirk and Curse techniques are not the same
for the sake of compatibility people just showcase them as the same concept so they can interact with each other
Doesn't change the outcome of the battle but good point.
sukuna: scales at best mountain, mhs+ speed
shigaraki: bare minimum country lvl, ftl or ftl+ speed
not even comparable
Sukuna was able to doge lightning (vs kashimo) and sukuna scale to country cuz in the manga they revealed that a special grade scorer can destroy a country
@@Ali-qy9wt dodging lightning is an mhs feat, and special grades are said to be able to TAKE OVER a country on their own not destroy it, its very different and either way feats>statements so who cares
Speed is completely useless in a battle like this.
Picture this:
You (can move at the speed of light)
Vs
Me(can react to light speed attacks)
Who do you think is winning?
@@v_vexxit's "overthrow", not "take over" and kenjaku said that's the modern requirements, like it's laughable.
And why would dumdum cursed spirits want to "take over" a country?
@@chideradavidnnagbo4121 so what? the guy moving at ftl just has to attack him with an attack powerful enough so that the other cant block it, and since the guy who can react to ftl attacks cant dodge it because he cant move at that speed, hes cooked
Yeah shigaraki has some crazy feats sukuna has way more skill and intelligence I think it’ll be closer fight than this video makes it out to be I can see it going both ways tho
Shigaraki takes all points + solos verse
@@facter-du6ktNOT big and iq , unsuless we count afo helpin shigaraki but that woulnt be a 1v1 no more
@@Gabriel-fi7nv 1-Shigaraki is already a nomu, so shigaraki was always under the control of AFO. In other words, AFO is shigaraki himself because he handed himself over to him.
2-AFO's IQ and Shigaraki's battle IQ are hundreds of times better than Sukuna. Also, if you look at the scaling of the events between the two verses, you will see that Shigaraki and AFO's achievements are more comprehensive
3-Also, we know that Shigaraki has the same speed and power as Prime Allmight even without using a single uniqueness. It is ignorance to think that Sukuna, a maximum city level character, will defeat Shigaraki, who is thousands of times stronger and faster than him, even without using a single power.
🤓”erm actually shigaraki is a nomu so he’s under the control of all for one who has higher biq than thukana”
@@catseer1299 Shigaraki still has BIQ, and more intelligence than Sukuna without AFO
People who has liquir brain : Sukuna solos
People who has brain,eyes and mind ; Shigaraki 1 finger solos
How it would go:
Sukuna: Domain Expa-
Shigaraki: *Blitzes & Decays sukuna*
Sukuna: ☠
Sukuna making a binding vow that lets him dismantle shiggy's quirks
Shit even in the strength department Shiggy being scaled by villains and heros multiple times to almost be All Might level should put him far above Sukuna
People don't understand how powerful all might is he was compared to a version of superman by the creator he didn't specify which one but still he said if superman didn't have the long ranged ability of heat vision all might would win
His body is prime all might lvk
@@jasonblack2477 yeah the body…that’s used to punch people
@@SimplyThinking677 I meant all of him with that
Yeah shits wild
To kill sukuna you need to attack the soul not sure how he'll do that😂
It's not required but it's more efficient
sukuna could use a few binding vows ngl...
"I will never ride a unicycle" ah bind
Shigaraki was put in bot lobbies.
It truly is insane.
No.
- Sukuna took 200% purple three times
- Walked out of his own nuke completely unscathed (fuga)
- 9 space distorting black flashes from yuji (and it increases the power of the hit to the power of 2.5, not multiplying by 10)
- Took full output Jacobs ladder twice
- tanked all of Gojo's punches (gojo's punches are enhanced with blue, according to kusakabe, it basically vortex space itself, to increase the hit damage)
- two black flashes from Gojo
- a soul split katana to the heart
- had his second tongue, face, and arms cut off
- tanked lightning blasts from kashimo
The only reason he was beaten was because yuji's punches were reducing his output. Sukuna can see, heal, and harm the soul. Sukuna can even resurrect himself (well, his host)
Durability goes to sukuna.
Yes, shigaraki can kill mahoraga(hold up, on jujutsu can end jujutsu tho), but sukuna can use his Technique and move the "burden of adaptation" to megumi's soul, allowing him to even ignore taking damage (since megumi is taking the damage for him, and he can always heal his soul)
Sukuna still ends him.
Sukuna didn’t tank “200%” Purple three times. He tanked one 200% purple, then he got hit by the purple nuke by Gojo, which almost killed him, and then tanked a very weak purple by Yuta in Gojo’s body.
Sukuna is impressive, kinda, yes, but. He’s no where close to Shigaraki. Shigaraki’s Decay alone destroyed a whole mountain, and then he later stated that with a single touch, he can decay 596,000 km of land once he decays Mount Fuji.
Shigaraki decimates.
- Sukuna only took one 200% Purple with CE Reinforcements. Gojo's omnidirectional Hollow Purple was just in physical form + incantation. Yuta's was also incantation amp.
- Sure Divine Flame's nuke is impressive, but it doesn't come close to Shigiraki's durability. Shigaraki withstood a powerful clap that blew clouds away, just about over 30km in an instant. Then there's 75% Shigaraki scaling to, if not scale above Nine surviving two 100% One For All users (Right after they blew away the massive storm too), comparable to when Deku and All Might smashed a giant cube moving at fast speeds, generating force that surpasses anything Divine Flames can do.
- Black Flash is cool and all. the power of 2.5 is extremely sus depending where you scale them. Like solar system sus. Still a good multiplier though regardless.
- Hana's Jacob Ladder didn't do much compared to Yuta's copied one, since her output was low and all. Besides that, yeah.
- It was actually one black flash from Gojo, which knocked him unconscious.
- Durability Negation, not a durability feat.
- Endurance and Stamina exists. Having certain parts taken off and still fight for a good while is just endurance.
- Cool? Deku and Bakugo tanked lightning mid air from Nine.
Sukuna is aware of his own soul and can heal it, yeah. He definitely has not attempted to harm anyone's soul in the entire battle (Not saying he can't cause Mahito but just won't.) Even then, it falls short when Shigaraki is protecting his own soul. Where did the resurrection thing come from? Are you talking about when he incarnated Megumi's body into his original form (Not resurrection) or when Sorcerers comes back in a day or two?
Durability goes to Shigaraki, even as early as when he came back from the dead.
That... He never transferred physical damage to Megumi, only spiritual. Only case Sukuna did this was during the domain clashes to make Unlimited Void useless and let Megumi take the information and burden the adaptation. You really can't prove that he can transfer physical damage, since the entire battle start to end would quite literally disagree with you if you were to try. Even if I humor you, Shigaraki decay spreads instantly and leaves no room for Sukuna to do squat. Sukuna has no time to adapt to anything Shigaraki unleashes.
A healthy Sukuna, in his original form, freezes and sees his own death in 75% Shigaraki's presence
manga shigaraki wins high diff
Out of every ability of both fighters the only aspect of their kits i feel comfortable giving the edge to shigaraki is durability. Sukuna has better strength feats, relative speed feats, overwhelming better hax and intelligence the fight would be close for a bit but sukuna would mid-high diff shiggy imo.
Shigaraki is prime All Might level in strength. That alone puts him to Continental or slightly below. He's nearly as fast as Deku so almost 4000 x FTL. His decay ignores durability and can spread over several kilometers in 1 second. His Impact Recoil can reflect any attack. His Hyper Regeneration can heal his entire body in 0.0013 seconds. He completely destroys Sukuna
You have never read mha and it shows
@@chrishardin9774 I, in fact, did read mha and it shows🙃
@@jobliski4266 sure you did, that's why you think Sukuna is physically stronger than Shigaraki, because you read MHA
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 deku has never shown to be “4000 x ftl”, he has been shown to be light speed (which by the way is him nearly perception blitzing shiggy). Decay has never shown to “ignore durability” in fact it’s shown to scale with it multiple times (especially in the final arc). Shiggy has never shown to be “prime all might level in strength” in fact his physical strength is shown to be pretty weak comparatively to others in the same series but we can’t know because he is always using decay instead of brute force. Respectfully, do I really need to keep going.
this is why Sukuna would win.
Power Scale and Abilities:
Shigaraki: At his peak, Shigaraki has immense destructive power due to the combined abilities of multiple Quirks, including "Decay," which can disintegrate anything he touches, and "All For One," which allows him to steal and use other Quirks. His durability, regeneration, and strength are all enhanced to superhuman levels.
Sukuna: In his Heian Era form, Sukuna was considered the King of Curses, feared as an unstoppable force even among other powerful sorcerers and curses. He has access to an array of Cursed Techniques, immense cursed energy reserves, and his Domain Expansion, "Malevolent Shrine," which can guarantee hits within its range. Sukuna’s abilities are incredibly versatile, allowing for high adaptability in combat.
2. Adaptability and Combat Experience:
Shigaraki: While he has grown into a formidable fighter, Shigaraki’s combat experience is relatively limited compared to Sukuna. He relies heavily on brute strength and overwhelming power, which might not be enough against a strategic opponent like Sukuna.
Sukuna: Sukuna is an ancient being with centuries of combat experience. His tactical intelligence, experience, and mastery of Cursed Techniques give him a significant advantage in a fight where strategy is as important as raw power.
3. Defensive and Offensive Versatility:
Shigaraki: His regeneration and decay are potent, but they require physical contact or proximity. His other Quirks provide versatility, but they often rely on overpowering his opponent.
Sukuna: Sukuna can attack from a distance, utilize his innate domain for guaranteed hits, and employ various techniques that don't require direct contact. His cursed energy attacks could potentially bypass Shigaraki’s defenses, especially with his level of cursed energy manipulation.
4. Domain Expansion vs. Quirks:
Shigaraki: While powerful, Shigaraki’s abilities might struggle against Sukuna's Domain Expansion, which guarantees hits within its range. His quirks could be countered by Sukuna’s cursed techniques, especially given Sukuna's ability to adapt and counter various forms of energy and attacks.
Sukuna: Sukuna’s Domain Expansion would give him a decisive edge, as Shigaraki has no direct counter to it. The guaranteed hit effect of Sukuna's domain could bypass Shigaraki’s defenses and regeneration, making it difficult for Shigaraki to survive in the long run.
Conclusion:
While Shigaraki is undoubtedly powerful, Sukuna’s experience, versatility, and overwhelming cursed energy give him the edge in this matchup. Sukuna's ability to counter various techniques, combined with his tactical prowess, would likely allow him to outmaneuver and ultimately defeat Shigaraki.
Cursed energy wouldn’t be able to bypass durability due to the fact it doesn’t do that to the heavily restricted users Toji and Maki are known for their durability despite not having having cursed energy reinforcement.
Shiggy out ranges sukuna with his incredibly powerful air cannon and Omni-factor release. As well as his decay when touching the floor.
There’s no evidence that DE stop regeneration or bypasses durability, and even so Gojo was able to tank it for a considerable amount of time with his lesser durability and regeneration
And on to durability and regeneration. There is no single attack or feat of regeneration in jjk that surpasses Shiggy before his body was fully complete borderline face tanking and regeneration from the state-of-the-art hypersonic intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missiles
Sometimes the best way to beat your opponent is just having better stats than them, having a quirk that tells you when danger is coming, and having a quirk that if you get a body shot kills your opponent almost immediately with no durability saving you then
@@SimplyThinking677 Cursed energy wouldn’t typically bypass durability, as evidenced by how Toji and Maki, despite lacking cursed energy reinforcement, can tank hits from cursed users. However, Sukuna isn’t just any cursed user; he’s the King of Curses. His cursed energy is on a whole different level, capable of adapting and overwhelming even the most durable opponents. While Toji and Maki’s durability is notable, Sukuna’s attacks, especially Cleave and Dismantle, are designed to adapt to and overcome such resilience. So while cursed energy doesn’t usually bypass durability, Sukuna’s level of cursed energy could potentially find a way through even the toughest defenses like Shigaraki’s.
Shiggy does have impressive range with his air cannon, Omni-factor release, and Decay. However, Sukuna has dealt with long-range and devastating attacks before. His speed, agility, and battle experience allow him to dodge or counter ranged attacks effectively. Plus, Sukuna’s domain expansion, Malevolent Shrine, covers a wide area, potentially neutralizing Shiggy’s range advantage by attacking him within the domain’s guaranteed hit radius. Even with Omni-factor release, Sukuna’s versatility and intelligence mean he could find a way to close the gap and take advantage of any opening.
There’s no direct evidence that Domain Expansion stops regeneration or bypasses durability, and Gojo did withstand it for some time. However, Gojo’s techniques are extremely advanced, and his defenses are specifically built to counter such attacks. Shiggy’s regeneration, while formidable, might not be able to fully counter the repeated and adaptive strikes from Sukuna’s techniques, which could target the very mechanisms of Shiggy’s healing process, wearing him down over time.
As for durability and regeneration, Shiggy’s feat of surviving and regenerating from a hypersonic, intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missile is insane, but Sukuna’s attacks operate on a different level. There’s no single attack in JJK that matches the raw destructive power of that missile, but Sukuna’s techniques are designed to strike at the essence of his opponent’s strength. He can target Shiggy’s regeneration directly, weakening it over time until Shiggy can’t keep up with the damage.
Sometimes, the best way to beat an opponent is with superior stats, instincts, and techniques. Shiggy’s Danger Sense is an impressive quirk, but Sukuna’s battle experience and adaptability might let him find ways around it. And while Shiggy’s quirks give him tremendous offensive power, Sukuna’s cursed techniques are equally dangerous, with the added bonus of adapting to the opponent’s strength. In the end, Sukuna’s combination of intelligence, cursed energy manipulation, and strategic thinking would likely allow him to overcome Shiggy’s superior stats and secure the win.
@@antv0lyon …is that chat gpt? I’m not dignifying that with a real response
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This is about who's stronger not who would win
The sukuna glazer are going crazy
The strongest glazer of modern time
@@Melv1i fricken real
Attempting to kill a curse user without cursed energy will only turn them into a curse. If the conditions are a fight till only one remains then Shigaraki is incapable of dealing a truly finishing blow
I'm not done with MHA, but the method of beating sukuna wasn't overpowering him, but exploiting his weakness. Gege heavily states that sukuna(even tho not a full power) was still massively holding back.
Power level of a character shouldn't be scaled by their output (because that can be altered) but by their total power.
For example, if we were to scale Sasuke (Shippuden pre mangekyo) we would observe his battle with itachi, because that's the one where sasuke starts at full strength, and runs out of chakra. We then sum up all of his attacks, the damages to the surroundings from when he started to when he finished, the total energy equivalent is his maximum. We know then he's this(said level) or that (said level)
We never see sukuna actually run out of power in a fight, we see yuji weaken his output, not his total power. (Chapter 250 - sukuna admits to be in yuta's level in terms of overall energy reserves, Chapter 258, narrator says sukuna is still at yuta's level despite yuji's chained black flashes and strikes)
Is hard tell if they are joking or not
Durability didn't even mention sukuna has taken multiple soul damage attacks lol shigaraki as far as i know never took anything that can harm the soul so theres no way he has better Durability, you mha fans are crazy
Sukuna never tanked 10 state-of-the-art hypersonic intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missiles
crazy how everything you just said rn scales Sukuna no where in durability.
Bro taking damage from ur soul has nothing to do with physical ability tell how is sukuna gonna tank a light speed Detroit smash to the stomach
He has? Deku sent 6 vestiges into shigarakis soul during the final fight, which hit his soul with a meteor. He survived 6 of those attacks and still could fight fine, although now a bit weakened and under AFO control.
Shigaraki is just a more op mahito(he solos)
The strongest toucher Vs the strongest sex offender
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I think sukuna would loose due to the insane hacks and abilities shigaraki has but pure skill hand to hand sukuna will wipe the absolute floor with shigaraki but I will admit full powered is say shigaraki could overwhelm sukuna solely due to shigaraki as hacks
No way, what does shigiraki.have to counter domain expansion or maharaga?
@@AutististicSchizoI think he could probably just leave Malevolent Shrine (it’s open barrier, after all), but Mahoraga would cook him.
@@TheyreBetterDry couldn’t Shiggy just decay big raga considering it’s a one shot kill
@@AutististicSchizo murder for the most part which is pretty easy when you one shot kill
@@SimplyThinking677 Maharaga will adept sukuna is smart enough to analyze shigiraki powers and will safely adapt moho
Sukuna is more durable (more durable than kenjaku who survived a black hole for a bit and has survived atomic destruction) and he is also faster as he is way faster than light since he dodged electro magnetic waves, He also takes hax and abilities as world slash, cleave and domain expansion are one shot abilities and Shigaraki wont even be able to see the world slash coming as he isnt a sorcerer, Sukuna negs
@@Buraq786-bm1uh Kenny survived the black due to specificity having anti gravity as an ability without that he would’ve been absolutely obliterated
The light speed as always been highly debatable so I’ll give it to you
And Shiggy has danger sense so he could dodge the world slash and even if he could get hit as long as it doesn’t destroy his head/brain he could heal from it
And Shiggy can tank any attack Sukuna throws at him due to borderline face tanking 10 state-of-the-art hypersonic intercontinental thermonuclear cruise missiles
@@SimplyThinking677 Kenny actually tanked the black hole for a couple of seconds before activating anti grav thats why his clothes were destroyed when it ended, besides he would still need ftl reaction time to activate it before hand
Sukuna could make a similar binding vow to the one he made against Gojo to make the world slash instant, The world slash can cover a massive area easily enough to completely erase a person
Malevolent Shrines cleaves negate durability but shiggy can most likely outheal it but i doubt he will be able to outheal a fuga on top of that As it destroyed even Mahoraga who has crazy op regen in the anime
@Buraq786-bm1uh It doesn't negate durability if it did, gojo would have gotten his head cut off the instant the malevolent shrine connected
@Buraq786-bm1uh And Mahoraga's crazy regen is anime only, the best regen feat for Mahoraga in the manga was when he got cut halfway through his head
@Buraq786-bm1uh Btw Fuga is a Town-level+ attack and International Cruise Punch is a Country-level attack
This is bull shit. Shigiraki cant counter malevolent shrine or maho. Sukuna hax beats shigiraki. Shigiraki most destructive attack is decay once that adapted to he has nothing. What would hands do too maho
Mahoraga will die instantly when Shigaraki uses decay
@@nehemiah7012 Shigiraki has low fight iq. Sukuna not a retarded. He do like in the gojo fight and find a way to safely adapt to decay
@@nehemiah7012 No sukuna would safely adapt maho.
@@AutististicSchizohe would have to try since decay is basically an instant kill
@nehemiah7012 Sukuna would most likely sacrifice a lesser shikigame for maho to adapt safely. But if maho can adapt to meta physical abilities such as the limitless and unlimited void then he should adapt to relatively simple ability like decay.