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1:00 Ryomen Sukuna
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9:37 How Would It Go
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I'm half expecting Sukuna to pull an : Ah, my anti-Decay quirk cursed technique I haven't used since the Heian Era...
Gold
Where did this meme originate from? I mean which chapter did he say that?
@@Leo_Yambem sukuna never said that. In fact, this meme can be traced back as far Yuki vs Kenjaku with how he conveniently countered the black hole. Then the Sukuna cycle began then you know the rest
Ah yes my anti MHA character cursed technique I haven't used that since the Heian era
AFO - Ah yes my Anti slashing quirk I haven't used since this Destro era
Bro really forgot about Sukuna's quirk disabling cursed technique that he hasn't used since the Heian era
I bet he has anti decay curse technique , we will see it in the next chapter
Yall cracking me up XD
He has to use a binding vow to activate it tho
He have that "All for me" quirk, makes him able to use any quirk that exist
anti jujustu to my kaisen technique is kinda busted tho …
Sukuna - Ah yes my Anti quirk technique I haven't used since Heian era.
AFO - Ah yes my Anti Sukuna quirk I haven't used since the Destro era.
Sukuna - Wait wtf.
underrated cooment😂
😭
Zoro passing bye lost.
A blind guy and a multi hands guy.
Minority hunter buff activated.
🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽
Okay 😂 y-you got me there 😂❤❤❤❤
The black hole was likely the result of a post mortem binding vow since Yuki before wasn't affecting the space around her with her mass yet a dying Yuki could to an extreme extent.
Yeah I think that's likely
What Yuki did was she put infinite mass on herself to make herself a black hole. That's her ability with no binding vows. She can put any amount of mass she wants to herself and only her cursed spirit or shikigami whatever that was
@@Mr_Placebo It doesn't take infinite mass to make a black hole. It requires a very dense mass. (Like the mass of the earth compressed to the size of a penny)
@@Mr_Placebo She isn't effected by the mass ≠ she can add as much as she wants.
The mass itself doesn't effect her or Garuda, BUT the gravity from her mass does.
@@Mr_Placebo Her technique like anything requires energy like any other. Because her energy and output is finite, so is her mass.
Shigaraki durability is on another level, he tanked star and strips laser beama and multiple nukes and 100% full power deku punches and can still regenerate
Didn’t he tank one nuke, not multiple?
@@OEJ-iz1ns Multiple fused.
@@OEJ-iz1ns Still a lot since is a nuke. One of them in Sukuna and is over, so the same for the resr of JJK since Sukuna is the strongest.
Sukuna is planet level @@HIWHYAIWYAGD
@@HIWHYAIWYAGD True
Just a quick side note, you forgot to mention Shigaraki's adaptability, which allows him to evolve in order to counter whatever threat he faces.
Mahoraga?😅
Wouldn’t really do anything he defeated mahoraga pretty easily at only 15 fingers if this is heian era sukuna he definitely has more techniques in his playbook
@@Jellyfish308 yeah because mahoraga doesnt have super regeneration. sukuna doesn't have the ap to fight finger armour shigaraki
This is the first video without a OPM character in it.
Yes i noticed, opm became very famous after garou vs saitama, but now it'd jjk the famous after gojo vs sukuna
@@Thebluewideskyuntil season 3, hopefully JJK won't fall off like MHA did
Wdym? The manga literally has people on their toes every Thursday@@haruyanto8085
@@haruyanto8085 mha never fell off, the fanbase just went to shit
Yes finally someone who doesn’t scale to the domain expansions
I would argue that creation and destruction feat scaling should be totally segregated unless we get some reference of how much it takes to create vs destroy but you have to take the wins you can
Scaling using DE is the only way power scalers can wank JJK characters lol. Everyone is using dagon's domain yet he got destroyed by toji....a toji who got destroyed by a young gojo
If they don't scale from domains then it's clearly biased because they clearly scale to them
@@user-gt1br7fl5t domain is not really quantifiable because the point of it is not for power but for the sure hit effects. The domain theme jus fits the characters.......dagon having an island, mahito having hands etc
Shigaraki arguably may have soul damage if we see it under the JJK lens.
He know Quirks have the ability to be vestiges within a body, where they are the accumulation of someone's personality, likeness and memories. So they basically function as souls.
So imagine if Sukuna gets hit with a Decay that he can't efficiently heal like other wounds because it is Soul Damage. Remember, Sukuna wad implied to be able to heal from wounds inflicted on the soul but it takes more than normal wounds.
Quirks can't be the same as souls bc without a soul you die and there are people who exist without quirks in mha
@@youwillknowpainnagato5790they can exist without their souls apparently. Hawks as an example got his vestige/ soul taken away but hes still alive
Image that too in reverse for sukuna slashes
I already knew this channel will start to speak for other then opm, this means i finally can request a video for kashimo the ancient number 1 sourcerer in his era vs yuta the cursed child.
Kashimo wins easily, bro fought with immortal hakari who has infinite CT and still killed him at least 3 times all without using his CT, we never even got to see Kashimo's DE
@@haruyanto8085 all people say yuta wins, because of of his rika
Banger video. Also intresting thing even if shigi had no knowledge about sukuna he can just use search and he learns about everything about the target including its weaknesses. I hope you do mha vs opm videos in future since in my oppinion mha is underrated in terms of powerscaling
Spatial Slash would not really be a problem for Shigaraki in the same way it is a problem for JJK characters. RCT needs normal CE to work, so if a character is cut in half, they can not supply their brain with CE to generate RCT, because CE originates from the stomach. Shigaraki can just normally regenerate, because he has no real conditions to his regen.
If it blows his head away he is dead
I've read mha manga and watchee the anime, shigaraki's regen is not what y'all think its a type of regen that is a disadvantage for him if sukuna get pissed, his is just like wolverine a type of regen that emits from the body being intant, if shigaraki is dissected in eight pieces he can't regenerate from that let alone his brain being disected by sukuna's slash
Shiggy also has Danger Sense so the slash wouldn’t hit him anyway
@@florencechikwe2028 Every single part of Shigaraki is capable of regeneration, simply decapitating or cutting him in half won't do much of anything as we see the nomus with worse regeneration literally decapitate itself and just pop out a new body.
@@robertjr3781 It's a straight slashing attack so it just automatically can't.
If it cuts through then regeneration just turns on and heals it
Okay so just one important note I wanna add. Sukuna's slashes are invisible. To the point it's questionable if even Gojo with the six eyes can see the slashes. Only Mahoraga and Maki have so far been shown to be able to see the slashes. I do not recall Shigaraki having any sensory type quirk that would let him see the slashes. So if we are going to make the dimensional slash a win condition for Sukuna, I highly question the idea that Shigaraki can just dodge it, regardless of his speed because he simply doesn't even know it's coming.
We even know he can't predict it per se from Sukuna's movements as we know Sukuna can do a binding vow to allow him a one time use of that ability with absolutely 0 requirements. That's how he managed to beat Gojo.
Just felt like that was an important detail that was missed.
I’m pretty sure Shigaraki stole Danger Sense from Deku in the latest chapters
He has danger sense
@@xxkamikazexx5150 yea but gojos infinity could not counter it cause of the fact it could not sense it was a danger and slow it down as it got rid of the space he was in and that caused dmg not the slash itself so most likely same-thing here also deku vs class 1a shows that he could not use danger sense cause they were not trying to kill him so danger sense might not work here
@@trolledfordrip So basically Deku and no Shigarakis danger sense will work.
@@WallNutBreaker524 no it will not work as its not in danger
let me put it this way someone throwing a knife at you and you dodge it thats what normal attacks do
but this is = to a bit of the world being erased and you cant tell how its gonna happen so you cant dodge or even know your in danger
Island level is a very big stretch for jjk characters since they would need to be destroying kilometers and so far no attack in jjk even comes close to anything like that
Even Gojo 200% purple is small city level - large town at best
Gojo 200% purple was calced at mountian level
@@jjk4002 💀 ppl been reading another story I believe no one clascs jjk to anything close to that
@@Xagrou1085 You'd be very surprised 😭😭😭 so many people calc jjk at city-mountain level
@@jjk4002 I know and it’s bullshit there’s nothing in the show that actually puts them at the level
Gojo causes a earthquakt
This will be fun
banger video, gonna finish watching it now
That's not even mention other broken Hax shiggy has like Space manipulation, Impact recoil, Reflect (both of those can send Sukuna's attacks flying towards him), teleportation, several power and speed boosters.
And like Mahoraga, he can adapt. His body mutates.
Strength wise JJK is one of the most overrated universes out there
BEO SPEAKING FACTENESE 😤🔥😤
JJK is hard carried by gojo's infinity in power scaling.
Hax wise not
Town level verse with city moutain god tiers gets treated like moutain level is a baseline for top tiers.
@@ElishaAkemu Literally FACTS
the mha verse is underrated
I know right?
Even Shoto negs current jjk
people hate it so much for no reason
@@adhf158 i know, right?
@@adhf158blame the fandom
AMAZING EDITING BRO THIS VID LOOKS TOP TIER BRO YOU EARNED A SUB
can't wait for gege to debunk gojo's infinity so that jjk's powerscaling instantly becomes one of the lowest in animanga..
Yeah especially how Gege hates gojo
FUUUUUUUUUUGA
W Video brother
I’m glad you’re talking about other manga match ups cuz opm chps take so long to come out but can you review the next chapter when it comes out? Pls 🥺🥺
Next opm vid idea: genos vs flashy flash I really want to hear yacine’s take on this and if he thinks it’s close or not
Well, it would be fair enough to say that the difference between Shigaraki and Sukuna is even bigger. In ch 410 was stated that Shigaraki can destroy the entire Earth ( also, in previous chapters Tomura was stated to easily destroy the entire world if nobody stop him, and that was stated for Shigaraki who have no Quirks, only his raw power ). Its also questionable can Sukuna scale to Planet level, probably not, because even if was stated that power of Sukuna fingers could destroy world, it's still can mean society ( as we just have no statements for exectly Earth ), as Jogo, who have power of 9 fingers of Sukuna, is scale only to City level at best, so version with "world"="society" sound more logic. Also, Black Hole Yuki can't be scale to Planet level too, as Kenjaku said by himself that Yuki back off her power to not destroy would ( and I must admit that suicide attack could be much stronger then characters regular power, as Yuki can't beat Kenjaku or be on pair with Gojo in power, but her suicide attack is stronger then them ), and Kenjaku doesn't just tank a Black Hole, he just use his hax to avoid it, so it's pretty hard to believe that Sukuna to be Planet level depending of what I said before. But, even if we say "Yeah, Sukuna is Planet level at his full power and its not even a question", its still not enough, because Shigaraki can easily destroy the entire world/Planet even without his Quirks ( so it's far away from his full power ), while Sukuna is Planetery at his full power, it's a quite big difference ( especially if we look at Deku and his power, because full power Deku can be scale to Small Star level AP by calcs and Shigaraki was able to keep up with Deku ). Also, talking about speed, it would be enough to say that UA students ( like Mina ) already were able to dodge lightspeed attacks ( Aoyama’s navel lazer ) with easy, and Deku 5% already surpass all of them in speed. But, taking one of best Shigaraki's feat, in his battle against Bakugo for UA, Bakugo attack was 3,26895593E+30 or 109040.633.633 ×FTL ( MFTL+ ), and Shigaraki just blitz Bakugo with easy ( Bakugo stated that is a huge difference between him and Shigaraki, and Shigaraki is far superior ). Of course Shigaraki's regeneration and durability is more then enouth to just laugh at Sukuna's Domain Slashes ( as even Gojo tank them without a lot problem ). And yeah, Decay Quirk make this battle just even more funny, because Shigaraki can just blitz Sukuna even without single punch and Sukuna will die before he understand what actually happened. And that is just a small part of Tomura power, as he have a lot other quirks, like Body Manipulation ( he can create a lot hands from his body, after adaptation Shigaraki can use Decay with even every single hand or finger which he create and manipulate with body in general ), Air Canon+Radio Waves ( strong and fast attack with huge radius ), Black Lightning ( pretty strong attack, Tomura can use it from every part of his body, which are strong enough to easily take down Gigantomachia ) and many other abilities. Also, Tomura Immunity to Soul/Mind manipulation ( as eventually he was able to fight against AFO inside of his soul and mind )and ability to Soul/Spirit/Consepts destruction ( also, let me explain, vestiges are also souls, soul is the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal, and that is what vestiges are. And Deku, Shigaraki and AFO can damage souls, AFO also show that he can destroy Souls. Plus Deku could damage Black Ball, which exist around Shigaraki soul, Black Ball is representation of spirit, which exist of Shigaraki's memories and feelings, which have a physical interpretation. Also, Shigaraki show that can damage Vestiges World, which is another dimension, the same for Deku and AFO ). So, yeah, Shigaraki can easily blitz Sukuna ( but I must admit that Shigaraki can easily beat Gojo too. Shigaraki have Quirk Spatial Manipulation, which allows user to warp space and create a Black Hole right on opponent's body. And Shigaraki can just create Black Hole on Gojo's head/body and Gojo will die, as Black Hole just appearing on enemy, you can avoid it only if you are faster then your opponent or if you use a trick, as Hawks did for example. But, as we already know, Sukuna is not even close to Tomura in speed, Gojo is comparable to Sukuna, so Shigaraki can easily create Black Hole on Gojo and Gojo just don't have enough reaction and movement speed to predict that, so Satoru will die )
Yacine, you should do a video on "Who'd do more damage in the MHA Universe, Carnage Kabuto? Or Collosal Titan?".
Kabuto ez.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Facts, but in the Short of Classic Man D on this Topic, Attack on Titan fans could not at all accept that Carnage would win this competition.
w ❤
please do shigaraki vs monster garou
What multipliers were you referring to with Sukuna
Honestly I don't really understand how you got Jogo metor to city level, I thought it was a large city block feat at best 😭
A normal meteor would be around city level, depends on the city size, if we assume metropolitans like Greater Tokyo counts as a city, but a city is at least the size of Vatican city (the smallest city in the world)
@@haruyanto8085but a normal meteor comes from space a higher altitude than jogo's meteor,so the feat should be multicityblock to town level, considering his regular attacks can already destroy city blocks,city level is somewhat of a stretch tho.
Jogo should have dropped that meteor form higher, a meteor that size could make a mark on earth
@@haruyanto8085Normal meteors are that powerful because they come from freaking space at incredibly high speeds
"Ah, my killing stronger characters than me from other universes that I haven't used since the Heian Era..." - Fraudkuna
You can't call him a fraud after he clapped jjks whole cast
@@ERROR6097EDITS that's exactly why he's a fraud. The writing in JJK is so poor it's been giving blowies behind home Depot for $3
I really like your videos. You never feel the need to be divisive and you treat all the different characters fairly to the point of exploring different scenarii. If everyone was powerscaling like that, people wouldn't have such a bad opinion about the powerscaling community.
That said, there's just one thing that you didn't mention about Sukuna's kit: his barrier of slashes. It's an application of Dismantle that he used first to grab Yuta's blade without directly touching it, at the beginning of their fight. It's basically a watered-down Neutral Limitless, but it still allowed him to block "with his arm" an attack that bypasses durability - Maki's soul-splitting katana. It probably doesn't change the outcome of this versus battle since it wasn't stated or shown whether Sukuna can cover his whole body with this barrier or not - and since it's a stretch to say that he can, as-of-now, Tomura's superior speed would make it a non-factor (except MAYBE if Sukuna has a way to combine it with Simple Domain to activate the barrier automatically)
Can you do Mereoleona vs Star and Stripes, who would win?
both are strongest woman in their own verse
BC scales higher than MHA, Mer wins low diff
Could you do gojo vs okuyasu? I just want to know if okuyasu's stand would be able to bypass infinity
Yes. It can. Scrapes away the space that Gojo and his infinity exists in. Just like Sukuna.
Gojo wins from a distance and probably from up close because Okuyasu is a dumbass.
Gojo is visible due to light, therefore light bypasses Gojo's infinity, therefore any light speed attack or spatial manipulation (as shown by Sukuna) will bypass Infinity, so yes his stand would bypass
@@haruyanto8085 Does light bypass because of speed or because of it being subatomic or because it's harmless?
@@jackaboynaylor9273 harmless. Kind of annoys me when people try to use real life physics in anime. Obv someone shooting a massive laser would not bypass infinity, but this guy would think so.
@@memesix5440 Nothing is inherently wrong using real life physics in anime.
One thing of note as stated by Sukana himself he can close his domain so yes he can trap Shigarki in it.
If we give Sukana his full bag he also gets access to the ten shadows.
I actually think this fight is closer then people depending on one's arguments for either character
Bro he has no ce how tf would Sukuna trap him?💀
Of course one's argument can drasticly change the outcome.
Shiggy can avoid a domain expansion he as fast as light
@@biscuit2664 in recent chapters, the incomplete version of his domain can create a vortex barrier around it rather than a dome. Which still trapped Maki someone with no ce inside and she needed Miwa to pull up a simple domain for her. Though the incomplete domain is from a version that fused with Megumi’s Chimera shadow garden so he could be classified as another version separate from Yuji Sukuna, Heian, regular Megumi, etc
It was stated at the beginning we're using Heian Era Sukuna which means NO 10 shadows
I do find it a lil ridiculous Gege keeps giving Sukuna ct outta nowhere
But Sukuna is such a good villain. That’s not to say shigaraki isn’t. Shigaraki is an amazing villain. His backstory, how he got with all for one and he even pulled unexpected moves like taking some of afo’s quirk which the heroes didn’t expect, he’s good at manipulating and causing fear. He’s a great villain
But Sukuna, while Gege does seem to favor him and besides the plenty ct he’s given, is so good. Both of them are heartless and good at it
I feel like Sukuna is scarier cuz he’s basically fighting the curses and sorcerers and is evil cuz he finds it fun. He’s basically 1-ving everybody and he’s def gonna betray Kenjaku
He does have the advantage in the sense he’s 1000+ years old so he has way more experience, he’s smarter and he’s the literal king of curses and all the strong curses fear him and have tried to fight him but failed. He was also in Yuuji’s body for some time so his 1000+ year old knowledge was probably calculated as he watched and heard everything the sorcerers were doing
And when he killed Jogo and basically told him he was strong with reassurance just made the kill so much more impactful. He can invoke emotion in their last moments of death
But that is to say, they’re both very strong and manipulative and perceptive. So they both make such good villains for their respective anime’s
I feel like people forget that dodging is often predicting an attack/sensing danger.
Ima be honest,JJK is overrated in terms of scaling.
That's because gege constantly nerfed the characters. Without the mach 3 statement the top tier characters would be lightning speed. Also he's too much of a coward to make purple negate durability
He writes like he's afraid of his characters being powerful yet gives them these overpowered ass abilities
@@NonAryanDuck cause if all of the characters are just as op as gojo people would literally forget about yuji and jjk isnt really all about power but more for the story and also the overpowered abilities has extreme drawback both physically and literally
@@venomshot2815 If your referring to the time that 200% purple not killing sukuna then thats probably because its hinted that gojo used a binding vow to make it non lethal
@mr.puffin when did that happen? And that doesn't make sense a building was destroyed because of the purple and sukuna lost 2 reinforced hands how was it not lethal?? And how does that explain the second time he hit sukuna with it.
Hi can you do saitama vs jin mori?
i'm Currently reading God of Highschool , Finished Chapter 125
@@YacineScales NO WAY 🤩
You are my last hope to do a Video about these two. KEEP IT UP! :)
Unfair bud jin mori negs and you know that
Jin Mori stomps if we're using the end of the manwha version.
Jin Mori stomps until we can see more of Empty Void and God
This is an awesome matchup.
9:59 But that's a completely natural advantage that he should be allowed..
None of these guys are FTL. None of them are "country" level. Shigaraki said he thinks he could destroy Japan in a week, not in a second.
DC ≠ AP 🤦🏾♂️
A week with Decay. Decay won't just destroy the surface, it would destroy japan's entire landmass above the sea.
@@Agent-57 yes that's the point he's not destroying a country in any short battle time frame
@@LN.2233 Deku feat. Also yes Shigaraki is faster than light. Fighting a woman who casually grabs light. And who also dodged EM waves easily
@@LN.2233 AP is not DC. Also he isn't just destroying the surface, he is destroying the entire landmass. Under the sea too. That goes well beyond country.
Also Decay doesn't have a power rating, it can decay anything. The week is for it too spread.
Video sugggestion, one character vs a verse, eg tatsumaki vs jjk, u could make some amazing match ups
Unfortunately Tatsumaki destroys everyone and it's not even close
How does tatsumaki destroy everyone?
Cause I'm saying other than sukuna and gojo
Cause the thing is if she gets hit by a world cut slash or hollow nuke there isn't a coming back from that
@@nazliamin7145baby you tripping they are jobbers
Who has more Plot Armor?
Would do a video about two monster calamities Sukuna the King of Curses vs Alucard the vampires the undead king from Hellsing.
Finally... SOMEONE WHO SCALES BASED OFF FEATS AND ACTUAL PORTRAYAL IN THE STORY...
Good video, as always, Yacine ❤🔥😤🔥❤
Glad you enjoyed!
@@YacineScales Always enjoy the videos.
It's rare to get honest scalers nowadays... Everyone just wants their favourite to be top dog... that they ignore feats and even the story(context).
Good Job once again.
Sukuna still town level
Statements are also a valid way to scale, bruh.
One thing he got wrong is the light speed shit. Light speed is the speed of the universe so it annoys me when people pick random strong characters and say their speed and reaction is light speed.
2:00 cook because i hate people who scale high balled feats that are used as pinnacle feats as other characters base lines
Tbh i think its important to mention personality and the situation.
If sukuna just happens to stumble on shigaraki, then its fairly unlikely shigaraki would pay him much attention. Maybe just a "are u going to stand in my way too?" And then maybe sukuna could employ his domain, which would work regardless as thats sunkunas domain, shikara would be somewhat screwed by this having been caught off gaurd and likely not know what it is. So hed be trapped. Still a fairly good chance that shigaraki would win regardless give the ap and speed difference but does make things a little more favourable for sukuna. It should also be mentioned if sukuna does what he did to gojo and basically triple teams shigaraki, it could turn the favour since mahirago (idk how to spell its name without looking at it) could cause a bit of a problem if it can adapt. Which sukuna could try and draw out the time with the other one idek the name of. So if things just align, there's a 40% chance sukuna could possibly win.
However if we look at it as sukuna wants to try and siment himself as stronger, then shigaraki will make very short work of him. Since not only will shigaraki beat the ever loving fingers outta sukuna, he'll just decay him as he stands in the way of his goals.
Like yes the odds of sukuna winning are low but with the right situation or just sukuna taking it seriously, it can be considered fairly close.
eh i get where your coming from but wouldn't shigaraki just get out the 200m range like stated in the video? also, i think shigaraki can survive being cut it half, because his regeneration isnt like ce, it dosent come from brain.
@zoneeditz0 see, I don't think shigaraki would really understand what's happening, not saying he's dumb, just he's going into the fight with no prior knowledge, so how could he. I can see him getting caught in sukunas' domain if sukuna is playing his cards right. Do I think this is an insta win? Nope, definitely not. If sukuna thinks so, that's it, he's done for. Plus, there was no mention of both margaraho (again can't spell it without looking at it) and the other beast he used against gojo, which could become a problem very easily. Hell alike wise they had to nerf said beast but manga one tick and that's it its adapted, which means it could very well adapt to shigaraki. Basically what I'm saying is that these two is a vs battle isn't a "why it isn't close" type video as although the stats are vast, the hax are what makes this seem more fun imo.
@evilCODraysHe has search which immediately gives him full knowledge on his opponent, including their weaknesses
I’m pretty sure that the starting black hole was not powerful enough, but because it is a black hole, and black holes grow, that explains why it could destroy the world.
Not because it was planet level, but because it was a black hole.
Also death binding vow buff.
The black hole that we saw has been calced to large planetary without the need of more growth. I just use the binging vow idea to say why no one scales to it.
A real black hole would have immediately destroyed the world, kids don't pay attention in physics class anymore tsk tsk, a coin sized black hole could completely and instantly destroy Greater Tokyo, a black hole doesn't "grow", it's simply that everything around it gets consumed by it's gravitational mass, the longer the happens the more stuff gets sucked in, it treats spacetime like a blanket basically
do Deku season 4 vs awakened Yuji
Bro even Season 1 Deku claps easily lol
feats?
I heavily doubt Izuku would win there
If it was s7 Izuku pre quirk loss then I'd say he'd low diff Yuji simply because he would literally launch Yuji into outer space with Gearshift@@user-zh1oy2ye5i
@@haruyanto8085 Deku season 3 gets thrown into a tree and punched by the tiger guy from the pussycats hero group. Are you kidding me? Deku needs controlled ofa 10% to solo Yuji then 45 ofa to solo all of mid kaisen.
Deku season 1 was already large building and mach 4
In my opinion jjk at MHS or MHS+ is a crazy highball considering hakari barley reacted to lightning and sukuna dodged an "EM wave blast" but got hit by a sound based attack and Kashimos lightning, probably some issue with the cursed energy not equating to real life phenomena but in fairness jjk needed that crazy highball to even pretend to contend with MHA
Yah their reaction time is FTL, but actual movement speed is at least hypersonic for special grade and above
@@haruyanto8085 barely hypersonic for anyone not named Gojo
Yacine can you do a tatsumaki vs one piece verse
Tatsumaki is continental with hypersonic -subrelativistic speed ,so one piece hightiers beats her
Why do people say it's not close in basically every video nowadays
Cause it really isn't
Shiggy is country lvl and sukuna is mountain lvl so its not close at all 🙅🏾♂️
Did you forget special grade mean people who can defeat a country
Defeat ≠ Scaling
@@davidlawn8539overthrow a country, overthrow doesn’t mean destroy
@@davidlawn8539 They can't destroy a country only means they is a threat to the nation
@@davidlawn8539 facts>statements, sit down kid
Since Shigaraki isn't a sorcerer and has no cursed tool, if he were to kill Sukuna then Sukuna would definitely come back as a cursed spirit for revenge at which point due to Shigaraki not being a sorcerer wouldn't be able to see or harm.
By your logic, saitama loses to sukuna
By your logic anyone that doesn't have cursed energy can would lose
@@xxkamikazexx5150yes thats how curse spirit works.
But that isn’t a condition, meaning shigaraki does win still
@@jjolarte98garbage copium lmao. they already lost the fight
Just important note:Sukuna could open a domain woth closed barrier,as he can shoose between open or closed ,he may have chances to actually defeat Shigi with fire arrow or either WCS but i dunno if Shigi can regenerate from halfed body or brain or any other important parts and organs that would allow him to endure any strong attacks
@@user-dg4je3li8o His regeneration is stronger than the highend nomus who could regenerate all their organs from just a head
What Part of JoJo are you on?
Part 5 brother
@@YacineScales Should probably finish at least up to Part 6 before making a video, and reading the manga.
If sukuna doesn't win we riot
Shigaraki has top tier regen so even a world cutting slash isn’t taking down Shigaraki and even besides that Sukuna just has lower stats in general to Shigaraki. Shigaraki needs one solid touch to win, Sukuna would need so much to even harm Shigaraki solidly its just not fair.
We’ve never seen shigaraki lose a heart, major organ, be bisected, or beheaded
@@myth5203 That is a pretty fair argument but we have seen nomu regenerate limbs and Shigaraki super healing has to at least be comparable to them so at the very least Shigaraki could regenerate any lost limbs and **most**organs that are lost. Sukuna world slash and flame is the only way Sukuna could damage Shigaraki and I don’t see Shigaraki not turning him to dust before Sukuna fires off a world slash.
@@jonathanrutherford7671 regenerating a arm is not equivalent to regenerating a heart , the heart or brain is provide way more major functions throughout the body. A person could live out the rest of their lives without a leg or arm
@@myth5203 Deku put a hole in his torso, Also his quirk is the same one Nomu use. You know the one who get bisected, beheaded and lose organs.
@@myth5203 he can regenerate organs, watch the latest episode
Not only does Shigaraki outstat + speed blitzes massively, but he outhaxes as well.
Malevolent Shrine gets tanked with ease.
Fuga is fodder.
10 Shadows(mainly Mahoraga) are fodder as well.
WS is the only thing that would really help Sukuna and even then it wouldn't one shot Shigaraki due to hus superior regen.
mahoraga's adaptation can be taken out of the picture if he gets 1 shotted. Gojo could do it while fighting a 1v3 and shigaraki can do it too. So adopting to decay isn't an argument too if someone's wondering
great video but i was wandering why you didnt talked about mahoraga. Since Sukuna is in Megumi's body he can use the ten shadows
Sukuna in his true form can’t use ten shadows
Also Mahoraga is useless because in order for Mahoraga to adapt, he has to survive the hit, and decay destroys people instantly
Mahoraga would get neg so quickly lol
i don't believe jjk verse is above city level. like gege always says gojo has infinite cursed energy. but the f he ran out of cursed energy while fighting sukuna. yuta has unlimited sword in his domain. but the f i would believe where i can only see around thousand at least. jjk verse is more like mouth fight more than power fight. no one can touch gojo. but the f gojo got sliced into half.
Gojo never ran out of cursed energy against Sukuna. After a sword is used by Yuta it is replaced by another.
Sukuna, or rather Mahoraga, found a way to bypass infinity and the explanations makes sense.
It's not rocket science
Condition of the world cutting slash😊
@@bizzaromg2903 if he didn't ran out of cursed energy then how did he got back his cursed energy output after 2 black flash?
@@Takatou__Yogiri Cursed energy output and cursed energy reserves aren't one and the same thing. Cursed energy reserves are simply how much cursed energy a character has. Cursed energy output is how much cursed energy you put in an attack. Think of it like this. The cursed energy reserve is a spray bottle filled with water, let's say 500 milliliters, when you press the trigger and water comes out the nozzle that's what you would call cursed energy output. If the spray bottle ejects 1 milliliter of water per use that means your cursed energy reserves will run out after 500 uses
Thanks to the Six Eyes, when Gojo uses a cursed technique it takes a very very small amount of his cursed energy reserves, even if he uses little or a lot of output
The output doesn't change, the cursed energy reserve is just being used incredibly slow
you took so many drugs since u made zoro vs atomic samurai
this is correct.
@@ZuidSolosincorrect
@@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey the video is literally correct
@@ZuidSolos I got confused and thought you were agreeing with the dude and not the video. My bad.
@@ZuidSolos if you have more than 50 iq you should understand that mha verse is not even exceed speed of lightning let alone 5 times speed of light this guy been taking drugs lately with 5x FTL you can run around planet for 30 times in 1 second time clearly mha verse just around japan if shigaraki moves that fast he can roam Every earth corner, every country, every city, everything on earth in 10 second and speed blitz deku my god is this guy even know what speed of light is? i really question his sanity
dagon's domain isn't a good feat as he doesn't just create an island, it creates a sky, sun. And keeping consistency puts him above sukuna who's domain expansion is just a shrine
3:27 yuki could generate that energy, because her technique is built for gravity, and a black hole (once established) will suck anything nearby in. its not that yuki is fucking planetary stats-wise, its that she can make something that could affect the world in exchange for her life. same reason kenjaku isn't planetary, he had a CT that counter yukis
also all the lightning based speed feats are useless (IN MY OPINION) because we learn that characters sense CE building up, and can sense what CT will be used, giving some level of prediction level observations/sensing
I ALONE I'M THE HONORED ONE
Kashimo's attacks doesn't travel at ls, it travels ls in a vacuum, jjk isn't in ls meta or planetary meta it's an outlier
Continental what mha didn't reach that high and they actually somewhat follows the laws of physics, so no light speed
None of these characters are light speed or country levels they can destroy major part of a country by going around and destroying shit but can't do it instantly or with a single attack.
Not true about mha though. Deku have already broken many laws of physics so the argument of mha following the laws is pointless at this point. And even the lowballed feats of shigaraki and deku gives them ftl scaling pretty consistently
pov:JJK tries to belittle Mha after being slapped by meat rider Shigaraki, (in case anyone will believe him)
So we just going to pretend deku didn't break the law of inertia?
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS HOW STRONG MHA IS
Sukuna has been shown to fly.
For example, in his fight with Yorozu, and his squabble with Jogo.
With this, I think it's safe to say he wouldn't get decayed by Shiggi.
However, he still dies by other means.
Shigaraki cannot replicate what Gojo did simply because he doesn't have a simple domain.
Gojo was getting destroyed by Sukuna domain, this is the reason he used simple domain in order to heal with rct and later use simple domain to heal his burnt out CE in order to shoot his red.
So just having a regen ability won't allow Shigaraki to survive Sukuna domain. He will get destroyed by it.
Also Sukuna can close his domain, and when he said that he could die if he get hit by hollow purple it's after his brain was already damaged by UV, which slow his rct output. After all we saw him tank a maximum 200% hollow purple.
So in a normal condition hollow purple cannot kill Sukuna.
so what you say is that, if shigaraki is asleep and does not decide to just speedblitz sukuna, then sukuna got a pretty good chance, got it.
EXACTLY
@@vasilesidau7749 I wouldn't necessarily consider being 5 times faster a speed blitz
@@vasilesidau7749 I don't think Shigaraki is fast enough to speedblitz Sukuna.
He has no feat that put him that far ahead of Sukuna speed wise.
@@mr.puffin7232 yea das just cuz ppl scale jjk characters above hypersonic even tho It makes no sense with the story and setting.
I'd say first but I'm not a dork
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Gojo with infinity laughing in the corner(he clearly sees failure in sukuna)
facts
Maki dodged Mach 3 Naoya calced at Mach 5-6 ≈ Sukuna with less than half his CE and soul nerfed is relative to Maki, so a healthy Sukuna should be Mach 10-12.
Another scale being Sukuna at 1F should be superior to his finger bearers for having better CE control and output. Megumi after unlocking domain can scrap with finger bearers in his domain >≈ Yuji as shown when he fought with Megumi against Awasaka ≈ Nanami is calced 180 m/s for dodging Mahito's blade.
1F Sukuna's speed: 180 m/s × 1.2 considering Megumi's domain buff = 216 m/s < 216+ m/s for being superior to finger bearers.
20F Sukuna speed: 216+ m/s × 20 = 4,320+ m/s ÷ 343 m/s = Mach 12.5+
Mach 10+ Sukuna consistency is indeed very consistent. Can't scale him much higher without being disingenuous and wanking him. Like for example, saying he should scale twice as fast in his true form for blitzing Kashimo, who was before that out speeding him. This is disingenuous because ignores he was injured.
Higher end lightning scales are just wrong. Hakari got hit by Kashimo's lightning all three times and only showed movement after being hit. This means he doesn't have to scale to the timeframe and wouldn't scale to the bolt in speed. This is supported by the third instance where he gets blatantly blitzed from a far distance despite being shown and stated faster by Kashimo.
Same applies to Maki 'reacting' to Nue. It's been calced at supersonic because of the distance anyway.
The verse still uses sonic attacks even now. Yuji's shitty piercing blood. Meguna's water piercing blood. Kashimo's sound waves. Yuta's cursed speech. Choso's piercing blood.
It's obvious that the verse is still and always will be sonic in speed.
The statement from Gege: '"You went from infinite to mach-are you okay?" To all of you thinking that, I agree with you.' doesn't go against this because its ambiguous on what he's agreeing with and can be interpreted as a simple acknowledgement of the verse's weird speed.
20F isn't 20 times as strong as 1F, the fingers are not a linear scale. He wasn't just twice as strong as Jogo who is said to be around 8 fingers in power. The higher tiers of the verse should be at least relativistic, since Kashimo can use eletromagnetic waves which are the speed of light. Sukuna is obviously stronger and faster than him.
@@shikamaze1489 Prove they aren't linear.
@@shikamaze1489 I can use a gun and I ain't supersonic 💀 does that make Usain bolt or Mike Tyson hypersonic since they're stronger/faster than me? 🤣
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@@banjo1919 Here's more scaling for the verse overall:
Fushi can react to Kamo's arrows that you can search up a speed of 68 m/s.
Maki can react to Mai's rubber bullets, which you can also search up a muzzle velocity (top speed) of 60 m/s.
Fushi can tag team with Maki showing that they are both relative in speed with feats and how they perform together.
Yuji is equal to Maki in the data book concerning pure physical stats and is believed to be able to beat everyone if it came to pure hands with no CE.
His innate strength comprises a big part of his power, meaning his CE should only make him a few times stronger (Pre fight with Meguna and training at least) putting anyone who scales to CE Yuji like Todo Nanami and Hanami around 120-180 m/s.
This, along with the fact that Yuji without CE moves relative to Higaruma who is stated to be grade 1 level, puts grade 1 speed anywhere between 60-180 m/s.
Considerably below sound, which is evident by these characters being highly susceptible to sound base attacks, like Masamichi being killed by Gakuganji's sound amps or Hanami being unable to react to piercing blood or cursed speech and a stronger Yuji barely being able to react to Choso's piercing blood.
Now onto the tier above this with casual Naoya who moves relative to Choso and can even blitz post Shibuya Yuji while likely off guard from his travel speed putting his casual combat speed at 180+ m/s and his more serious speeds likely in the low-mid to high-mid 200s m/s speeds. Fully serious top speed, Naoya surpasses subsonic speeds, making him at least Mach 1.
This Naoya moves relatively above awakened Maki who previously blitzed her father, another grade 1 sorcerer and soloed the Hei that comprises semi grade 1 or higher. Solidifying this speed of sound tier speed above grade 1 level.
Characters like uro and Ryu should be in this borderline sound speed to sound speed tier for reacting to cursed speech, along with base Hakari and Yuta who scale to each other. Or at least the 200s m/s.
This gets surpassed by Curse Naoya who now casually moves at sonic speeds and infamously caps at Mach 3. Maki dodging this has been calced at Mach 5-6 putting her and the top tiers at this combat speed.
God tiers in speed include CT Kashimo Gojo Sakuna Yorozu Maki Toji Yuji and Takaba when he is having a Joker moment 💀
Honestly its Sad that Gege chose to lowball Jjk It had so much potential to be a strong verse.
Sad? Lol, it's great gege kept the verse where it is. Nuking a city with MV is easy to portray and understand unlike other verses that find the need to have characters that destroy multiverses.
people think if a verse is below solar system level its fodder and is trash people really be valuing power over story
It never had the potential to be in the top ten gen in terms of power 💀
City block feats in goodwill.
City block to moutain feats in Shibuya.
City block to town feats in the culling games.
Undead Unluck
Black clover
Boruto
Kaiju No. 8
Chainsaw man
Fire force
My hero academia
Mashle
All out scale
Lowball jjk? Your happy with the cool and visual fights but not happy with the way gege scales his characters? Bruh what 😂
"iTs SaD tHat gEgE lOWbAll hiS vErSe I wAnT tHEm tO DeStRoY inFiNiTe uNiVerSeS aNd diMenSiOnS" mf cares about sum power level bc he doesn't want his fav verse to be weak compared to others 💀
Yeah I still don’t take those Domain expansion feats seriously as they aren’t even attacking with the full domain they are just attacking with the effects of them like Dagon attacks with big fish it’s not like he’s throwing an island at you he makes the island that’s not island level Jogo who is stronger than him can barely destroy a couple city blocks his Domain was also smaller than Dagons like that’s just disingenuous
Bro why are you using Gear 5th in Wano, the REAL Gear 5th feats are in Egghead where there multiple times where Luffy creates objects out of nothing, so that supports the Reality Manipulation. And Gear 5th has even better FTL feats now.
Luffy still loses I believe but I want you to be more accurate when scaling what Gear 5th can actually do.
Season 3 Deku solos the verse
No, it doesn't. Deku has no answer towards Gojo Infinite or Unlimited Void
Bruh how tf would shigaraki even see sukunas world slash (danger sense wouldn't even work bruh six eyes couldn't see world slash coming)
Also why are u thinking that sukuna would just stand there and watch shigaraki "taking" those sure hit slashes? What? Why would those slashes not even slow shigaraki down?
Sukuna CAN close his barrier and trap shigaraki btw sukuna himself said that shit
He can also use 10 shadows while in domain (if we giving shigaraki stuff like danger sense at 100% even though he wasn't at 100% when he got that shit and afo's other users blew his ass up multiple times while having that shit)
What kinda bs is this? 🤨 this is a huge miss
shigiraki still solos, adaptability and has more feats
Bruh you are obviously just a JJK reader..
Have you seen all the shit Shigaraki has survived?
nobody cares, the fact that shigaraki can just speedblitz sukuna whenever he wants is still true, only way sukuna wins is if the 5x faster char that can vaporize him on touch is asleep.
@@ShokyoLeaf mahoraga: nah i´d win
Why wouldn't danger sense work?
The moment shigaraki touches sukuna it’s over.
Binding vows is NOT Saving bro
day 1
pls make cıd kagenou and yorıcchı ısnt close
I’m just gonna guess that he said shigaraki would win😭 that’s usually what I expect from any video doing mha scaling to not piss off the fans lmao
dawg jjk fans are literally pissed rn
@@ZuidSolos honestly I’m just confused on how shigaraki comes back from being decapitated with an existence slash ngl but that’s just me fr
@@michaelespinoza2150He doesn’t need too when he blitzes Sukuna.I don’t see how Sukuna tanks a insta-Kill quirk that has been proven to also decay souls.(Shigaraki was proven to Decay Deku’s Actual and spiritual arms
@@zhavierbrown4422 he can also move and pimp slap him with any four arms since unlike Shigaraki’s em waves, Sukuna dodged an actual beam of it meaning it was in a vacuum meaning the em waves he dodged were indeed flt and far outpacing Shigaraki. Mind you he can flick a dismantle, snap a dismantle, not even move and still activate it, project it to the ground and other things just like decay, his rct is gonna far outpace his healing since Shigaraki isn’t yuji so no access to black flash or soul damage especially since he can just project more than physical damage to the soul of his host so that’s easy regen for Sukuna, more hand to hand experience which is easy for Sukuna to put to use seeing as he indeed is faster that Shigaraki so yeah bro’s getting boxed and shipped to the kitchen.
@@michaelespinoza2150 shigaraki stats are better than sukunas you just ignore that guys comment and went on a rant
Chinese Sorcerer vs.Sukuna when?
I can imagine you going through the suffering of reading MHA again haha
Im pretty sure that lightning doesnt move at light speed
I havnt watched out the video yet but I know where it’s going. Although I believe shigu would win.. him saying my hero characters are faster than light using this dude weird navel lasers is crazy wild😂 bro power scalers man
The verse is City to mountain lvl tbh
I do have to disagree, the reason Gojo didn’t instantly die from malevolent shrine is because of domain amplification which lessens effects of ct + rc if Shigaraki doesn’t instantly kill him sunkuna wins
The argument that AP can be determined by a creation feat, is bizarre to me. Being able to use magic to create something is different than being able to use magic capable of generating enough force to destroy something.
Facts. Modern powerscaling is bullshit.
@@myronbourne6937 Generally all power scaling is bullshit lol
@@michaeleanthonyjr it used to be decent ~10 years ago
@@myronbourne6937 I could believe that
@@michaeleanthonyjr but I definitely agree it's all bullshit at the end of the day 😂
Please do a Naruto vs Ichigo video next 🙏 I need to know
Naruto easily is it because of my biased?, yes but am only saying that because i hate the Clorox fanbase they are the worst just like dbz or scp fanbeses they just Love to over exaggerate the power scaling
Gojo was able to withstand it due to simple domain / domain amp whatever he used to weaken to slashes significantly, as we know even someone like whats his name who used simple domain against Sukuna could tank his slashes even though he was grade 1.
For do that you have to be able to use curse energy simple thing that shigaraki can’t do
Gojo can survive with just Regen and dura before using simple domain.
Without a doubt shigaraki absolutely wins. also, not only is shigaraki is FTL but do not forget he also had danger sense which is basically spider sense from spider man letting him predict attacks even if they are faster then himself.
*no opm character* ?
feels strange
MHA simply out scales the shit outta JJK. Defo top 8 strongest new gen.
sukuna : twin mete- **dead**
The Devil’s Prodigy vs The Strongest in History
I can't get behind the speed of light stuff
can't gojo aim a hollow purple toward the earth's core, and could that be considered planetary?
How will the Attack get to the Core?
his 200% hollow purple was city level at best
Light speed Sukuna?!😂
Hope jjk fans see this video
At first I was wondering how shigaraki would deal with soace slash since it’s invisible then I remembered he has danger sense
Danger sense is not reliable, danger can only throw out warnings to be cautious but it can’t describe the threat. It’s proven when Deku used the smoke screen to mask his attack’s intention
@@myth5203Being cautious in a specific instance is all you need to dodge.
@@myth5203 He also has vibration sense. You know the thing Maki uses to dodge world slash. Also world slash can't even do anything. Shigaraki will just regen.
@@Agent-57 what shigaraki can’t regen after being cut in half that’s just a lie and why on earth would sukkuna let him and not instantly assault him with more world slashes .he can even make a grid of world slashes not to meantion against Kashimo he made a world slashes bigger than the human body that would cleave shigaraki out of existence and I didn’t know shiggy had vibration sense tho I’m wondering why he never used it against Deku attacks and other heroes attacks
@@greatminikwu9089 sukuna can’t spam ws and even then shigaraki regens